Re: OT: Binary watch

[John Francis]

On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:15:50PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
> Is it bad that it took me less than 30 seconds to figure out the watch 
> is set to 2:52?

That's pretty bad, yes.  It took me about 3 seconds.

Re: Now it works, now it doesn't. (Spotty-F meter)

[Jon M]

What meter switch are you referring to? 

--- Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You didn't by chance have the meter switch in the
> 'up' position when
> you used it the second time?  On my Spot F, the
> meter doesn't
> register when in the 'up' position with SMC lenses
> (it does register
> with the older, non SMC type).  I assume that this
> is a design
> feature of the camera.
> 
> If not, it might be as simple as dodgy battery
> contacts, particularly
> if you're using one of the smaller diameter 1.5 volt
> cells.  Try
> cleaning the contacts and, if necessary put some
> metalic foil in the
> battery cap to ensure that the battery is making
> secure contact.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian
> 
> +
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 





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Re: Now it works, now it doesn't. (Spotty-F meter)

[Brian Walters]

Jon

Quoting Jon M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> The meter powered up and appeared to work, so I put
> the lenscap back on it and eagerly anticipated
> shooting a test roll the following day with it. Much
> to my disappointment, the next morning I removed the
> lenscap to find that the meter was dead center and
> would not function at all. I've measured the battery
> with a multimeter, it still seems good. 
> 
> What's wrong with this thing? Where shall I start in
> repairing it, assuming I haven't overlooked something
> stupid that's making it not work. 



You didn't by chance have the meter switch in the 'up' position when
you used it the second time?  On my Spot F, the meter doesn't
register when in the 'up' position with SMC lenses (it does register
with the older, non SMC type).  I assume that this is a design
feature of the camera.

If not, it might be as simple as dodgy battery contacts, particularly
if you're using one of the smaller diameter 1.5 volt cells.  Try
cleaning the contacts and, if necessary put some metalic foil in the
battery cap to ensure that the battery is making secure contact.


Cheers,

Brian

+
Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia

PESO: Others 2005 - 35p - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On my walk this morning, I came across a tree...
or was it that a branch crossed me?

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/35p.htm

Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

Re: PESO -- Beast

[Jim Apilado]

I see it.  

> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:46:06 -0400
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO -- Beast
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:42:15 -0400
> 
> Took a long hike in the woods and came across this...
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_beast.html
> 
> Technical Info:
> Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/25sec
> smc Pentax 17mm f4.0 Fisheye @ 5.6
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> 
> -- 
> When you're worried or in doubt,
> Run in circles, (scream and shout).
> 

Re: 80-200mm 2.8 Wanted

[David Savage]

I asked my camera store for a quote for this lens last week. They said
it was on back order & there would be some in the country in 3-4
weeks.

I didn't place an order because the price gave me a mild heart attack :-)

I'd be interested to know if others in Oz can get prices for this
lens, as I was under the impression it had been discontinued.

Dave

On 8/29/05, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do you own a Pentax 80-200mm f2.8?
> You Dont!? Nor do I, but I would like to very soon.
> If you have such a lense floating about and wish to turn it into cash,
> please let me know.
> 
> Kind regards
> Kevin
> 
> --
> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
> Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
> 
>

PESO -- Beast

[P. J. Alling]

Took a long hike in the woods and came across this...

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_beast.html

Technical Info:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/25sec
smc Pentax 17mm f4.0 Fisheye @ 5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PAW - "Shell"

[David Mann]

On Aug 29, 2005, at 6:44 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I don't really understand using the "Save for Web" application.  
Seems to me to add a lot of needless complication.


I found that it gives me much smaller jpg files for a given quality,  
while also allowing me to pick the optimal size/quality tradeoff  
using the 4-up display.


My saving technique is identical to yours but with slightly different  
order, except I use "Save For Web" instead of "Save As".


I understand that the ImageReady application can do a lot of things  
that might be interesting or useful for commercial website  
development, but for prepping images for my personal gallery and  
such it seems way overkill.


PS opens the dialog without having to open the whole ImageReady  
application, although it probably loads most of it considering how  
long it takes to open the thing.


Other than that I couldn't care less about ImageReady.  My small web  
graphics are done in Macromedia (err, now Adobe) Fireworks.  More  
complex graphics start in Photoshop then I use Fireworks to slice them.


I really hope that Adobe doesn't kill Fireworks off as it's a very  
good product.  Having seen the price of the new Macromedia Studio  
upgrade version, I get the impression that they're trying to kill the  
whole product line :(


Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[David Mann]

On Aug 29, 2005, at 3:16 AM, William Robb wrote:


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html


I like the second one better.  Don't you guys use real grass anymore?


Shot with the F*300/4.5.
Seems a decent enough lens


Understatement of the century... :)

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Now it works, now it doesn't. (Spotty-F meter)

[Jon M]

Sis picked up a SP-F at a yard sale for me for $20,
body looks decent, SMC Takumar 50/1.4 is nice except
for a mutilated filter ring. 

I picked up a 1.5v battery after reading at the link
below that they'll work on such.

http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm

The meter powered up and appeared to work, so I put
the lenscap back on it and eagerly anticipated
shooting a test roll the following day with it. Much
to my disappointment, the next morning I removed the
lenscap to find that the meter was dead center and
would not function at all. I've measured the battery
with a multimeter, it still seems good. 

What's wrong with this thing? Where shall I start in
repairing it, assuming I haven't overlooked something
stupid that's making it not work. 

__
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Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Bicycling in France: All primes




"péter" is the verb you're trying to squeeze out.


Thanks.
I suppose  gaz de liberté  would also work.

William (French by Google) Robb 

Re: A couple of PESOs

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault"

Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs




They let you take pix near airports with big honking lenses in
Saskatchewan?  


It's pretty laid back here.


I like the shots, BTW.


Thanks
b...

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 
Subject: Re: Peso: Two from the football game




 It was always fun trying to explain a "Roughriders
vs. Roughriders" game to foreigners .


It was Roughriders (Sask.) vs. Rough Riders (Ottawa).
What's to be confused about?

William Robb

80-200mm 2.8 Wanted

[Kevin Waterson]

Do you own a Pentax 80-200mm f2.8?
You Dont!? Nor do I, but I would like to very soon.
If you have such a lense floating about and wish to turn it into cash,
please let me know.

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


A strong gallery, Boris.  I know I'm really behind on PAW's and
PESO's, and will likely not catch up (I think I'll have to delete a
bunch of older ones).  If the first one of the older couple on the
bench was a PAW, I'm glad I saw it now.  What a wonderful photo.  I
can't figure out what, but there's something very compelling about it.

And, of course, the rest are wonderful, too.


No, that "Staff Only" shot wasn't a PAW. So you did not miss it really. 
It was purely a humorous grab from the opposite bench.


Well, I'll be adding more to the gallery, that's for sure.

Boris

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

The spaghetti eater is a real charmer. Eating with the whole face. 
But now specks at the t-shirt? That’s spooky ;-)


It is easy, Tom. It simply was shot at the beginning of the feast... But 
then of course Galia is growing and sometimes she can eat through the 
dish ;-) and leave her tea-shirt ;-) clean.



Also like the B&W with the boat in the tide. Enjoy the lines, and the
atmosphere.

Forgot one, the runner at the beach!


Thanks.

Boris

Re: Probably going to switch

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera. With Canon's resources and it's ability to make it's
own sensors, I think it's clear that they will be the front runner and
leader of DSLR cameras. Now with the advantages full frame (you can argue
that if you wish}in a relatively small body, I think I'm going to switch and
purchase one in the next 6 months. Also there is more software support for
Canon amd Nikon, like DxO Optics 3.0, which does not support Pentax. Also
more lens available.

If Pentax comes out with something close for close the price, I'll
re-consider.

Your thoughts please.


I think that camera body is less important than lenses. Hence, if you 
want to upgrade to EOS 5D you have to remember that you'd have to buy 
very good if not very best Canon optics... It is however not difficult 
to see that the best Canon lenses cost significant money. Thus your 
switch to Canon EOS system will not be limited (pun intended) by $3,300. 
I'd say make that double this figure.


If you have will, money and reasons to do so - absolutely.

I am perfectly happy with my Pentax system.

Boris

Re: Patch adding hidden functios to PS EL

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Boris, or somebody else.
I have installed the patch now. Curves are working, but I can't find the
channel mixer. And the channel mixer is the main reason I downloaded it now.


Where is channel mixer supposed to be, in the effects bin or some place
else?

Don't believe there will be much help in using the help function ;-)


Channel Mixer is there, just next to the Curves. All in all there're 
five or six additional functions that you can use.


Channel mixer is a way to do b/w conversion by mixing red/green/blue 
channels of your photo in any given proportion... I just looked it up in 
my Elements. There is this "Styles and Effects" window in top right 
corner. I chose "Earthbound light" from the drop down box so that only 
relevant options remained. Then it was all clearly there...


HTH.

Boris

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Well done Boris - great gallery - some wonderful pics, nicely displayed.
Big thumbs up here. I'd lose the colour shot of the boats - the mono one
is fantastic. Well done you mad Russian :-)


Indeed, that is one of my dilemmas here... Just recently I tried the two 
 Hue/Saturation layers technique and I am yet unsure about the 
results... Perhaps Shel or other folks who are good at b/w conversion 
could speak up.


I am not mad, really... The Norwegian is mad, that's what he said... ;-).

Where is he by the way?

Boris

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


That little cutie is Boris' daughter, isn't it Boris?  I agree with
the others;  a terrific photo!


Ladies and Gentlemen, don't you have facial memory?

Frank's absolutely right, Galia is running and eating some spaghetti...

Boris

RE: More from the Mountain

[Tim Øsleby]

Thanks! 
Still a bit odd, but readable. Thats better :-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29. august 2005 04:18
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: More from the Mountain
> 
> Cesar let me run a roll through his 67.  This is Nico and Patrickhaving
> lunch on Sunday just before the exodus.  FP4+ (rebranded asAdox 125) in D-
> 76.
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=175
> On 8/28/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I shot a roll of
> HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are a> few shots of list
> members.> > Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any similarities?>
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170>
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=171> > I realized as I was
> scanning the film that I took quite a few shots of> the list guy.  In
> these he's photographing Joe DiMaggio's> presentation.  I think he may
> have been using Joe's camera.>
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172>
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173> > Which PDMLer is this?>
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174> > All of these were taken
> with the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76> stock solution per Ilford's
> instructions.> > Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.> > -->
> Scott Loveless> http://www.twosixteen.com> > --> "You have to hold the
> button down" -Arnold Newman>
> 
> -- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
> --"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> 

Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Scott Loveless]

http://world.altavista.com/
On 8/28/05, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Can somebody please post me 
a babelfish?> ASAP> > To those of you who doesn't understand what I'm referring 
to:> Read Douglas Adams, or ignore me, or do both.> > > Tim> Mostly harmless 
(just plain Norwegian)> > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large 
crowds> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)> > > 
-Original Message-> > From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 
29. august 2005 00:47> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: RE: Bicycling 
in France: All primes> >> > Mon aeroglisseur est plein d'anguilles> >> > ...of 
course.> >> > --> > Salut les mecs!> >  Bob> >> >> > > >" Je passe le vent dans 
votre direction générale "> > >> > > I'm still trying to work out how to say 
"My hovercraft is> > > full of eels."> >> >> > > > > 

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: More from the Mountain

[Scott Loveless]

Cesar let me run a roll through his 67.  This is Nico and Patrickhaving lunch 
on Sunday just before the exodus.  FP4+ (rebranded asAdox 125) in D-76.
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=175
On 8/28/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I shot a roll of HP5+ 
pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are a> few shots of list members.> > 
Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any similarities?> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=171> > I realized as I was scanning 
the film that I took quite a few shots of> the list guy.  In these he's 
photographing Joe DiMaggio's> presentation.  I think he may have been using 
Joe's camera.> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173> > Which PDMLer is this?> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174> > All of these were taken with 
the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76> stock solution per Ilford's 
instructions.> > Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.> > --> 
Scott Loveless> http://www.twosixteen.com> > --> "You have to hold the button 
down" -Arnold Newman> 

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: 4th Test

[Kevin Waterson]

This one time, at band camp, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This could get me lynched, but, I want the Poms to win the Ashes. This
> current Aussie side is too full of itself and needs humbling.
I hope the Aussies get beat also. I think .au cricketers have been
full of themselves for some time. The .au media keeps telling them
how good they are and they just go right on believing it.

> Although, Shane Warne is proving that he's still got what it takes.
> Both with bat & ball.
Not to mention the cell phone. I think it is great we can celebrate
with our serial sex offenders their victories in the sporting arena
as well as their victories over the ladies.

Kind regards
Kevin



-- 
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

Re: 4th Test

[Brian Walters]

I've ordered the timber for the scaffold.  Now, where did I put my
rope?.




Cheers,

Brian

+
Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia


Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> This could get me lynched, but, I want the Poms to win the Ashes.
> This
> current Aussie side is too full of itself and needs humbling.
> 
> Although, Shane Warne is proving that he's still got what it
> takes.
> Both with bat & ball.
> 
> My congratulations go to England. This is the most interesting
> Ashes
> series in a very long time.
> 
> Dave
> 

Re: 4th Test

[David Savage]

This could get me lynched, but, I want the Poms to win the Ashes. This
current Aussie side is too full of itself and needs humbling.

Although, Shane Warne is proving that he's still got what it takes.
Both with bat & ball.

My congratulations go to England. This is the most interesting Ashes
series in a very long time.

Dave

On 8/29/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hoover on that!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 
>

Re: Probably going to switch

[Scott Loveless]

On 8/28/05, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Does the number of high 
quality fully functional pentax lenses you already> own> dramatically affect 
your decision? ( You don't state ).> JCO> 
They certainly affected my decision:  I ain't going nowhere.  My sixprimes and 
two zooms are worth a few hundred dollars combined.  Evenif I wanted to switch, 
I couldn't afford it.  But hey, I'm happy withPentax.

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

RE: More from the Mountain

[Tim Øsleby]

What do you expect us to do with this? Copy and past into the browser?
Sorry mate, no way. 
(My regular mouse is on leave, my old one is very troublesome.)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29. august 2005 03:25
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: More from the Mountain
> 
> I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are afew
> shots of list members.
> Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any
> similarities?http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170http://twosixte
> en.com/gallery/index.php?id=171
> I realized as I was scanning the film that I took quite a few shots ofthe
> list guy.  In these he's photographing Joe DiMaggio'spresentation.  I
> think he may have been using Joe's
> camera.http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172http://twosixteen.com
> /gallery/index.php?id=173
> Which PDMLer is this?http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174
> All of these were taken with the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76stock
> solution per Ilford's instructions.
> Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.
> -- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
> --"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> 

Re: OT: Binary watch

[Bob Shell]

On Sunday, August 28, 2005, at 08:55  PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

On 8/28/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > $90US 
seems a lot of money just to be "carefree and eminently cool"  .> 
> Reminds me of a sig line on an e-mail I recently received from an 
old friend:> > "There are 10 kinds of people in the world:  Those that 
understand> binary and those that don't."

I have that on a t-shirt.
Besides, you can get the super sized version for twenty 
bucks.http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/lights/59e0/




Here's the watch I covet.  But it sells for -- ouch -- $ 1,000 :

http://www.matepuana.com/projects/open/index_en.htm

Bob

Re: Probably going to switch

[Kevin Waterson]

This one time, at band camp, "Larry Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Does the number of high quality fully functional pentax lenses you already
> >own
> >dramatically affect your decision? ( You don't state ).
> >JCO
> 
> No. I'll still have my Pentax system as a backup.

I will being keeping my Pentax gear for backup also. I think I 
will be switching to Hasselblad and some larger digital images.
The "35mm" option from Pentax just isn't working out for me.
I will of course keep my 6x7 and enjoy a lifetime of images from
that.

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

More from the Mountain

[Scott Loveless]

I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are afew shots 
of list members.
Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any 
similarities?http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=171
I realized as I was scanning the film that I took quite a few shots ofthe list 
guy.  In these he's photographing Joe DiMaggio'spresentation.  I think he may 
have been using Joe's 
camera.http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173
Which PDMLer is this?http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174
All of these were taken with the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76stock 
solution per Ilford's instructions.
Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.
-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: PESO - Veins

[Adam Maas]

frank theriault wrote:


I just re-read my post, and one would think that by now I'd realize
that the singular of "leaves" is "leaf".

I mean, not only is English my first language, it's my ~only~ language .

I think my confusion comes from living in Toronto.  We have a hockey
team here called the Toronto Maple Leafs.  Of course, "Leafs" is not
the plural of "Leaf".  It should really be the Toronto Maple Leaves,
shouldn't it?

I think living here for the past decade has confused me.  That's my
excuse, and I'm sticking to it.  I don't care if you beleave me or not
.

cheers,
frank
 



Don't you mean the Toronto  Maple Laughs?

-Adam



 

Re: OT: Binary watch

[Adam Maas]

frank theriault wrote:


On 8/28/05, Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Here's something for digit-heads to amuse and confuse your friends, as well
as yourselves.

http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/WATBIN.htm
   




Quoted from the description of the watch:

"The Binary Watch is so completely impossible to use (unless you're a
code-head) that not being able to tell the time is no longer a cause
for worry, but just perfectly normal behaviour. Of course for those of
you who 'get it', the Binary Watch - whilst palpably a watch - is not
about telling the time, it's about being carefree and eminently cool."

$90US seems a lot of money just to be "carefree and eminently cool"  .

Reminds me of a sig line on an e-mail I recently received from an old friend:

"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:  Those that understand
binary and those that don't."



cheers,
frank
 



Is it bad that it took me less than 30 seconds to figure out the watch 
is set to 2:52?


-Adam

Re: Probably going to switch

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 28, 2005, at 4:44 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:


Actually it just makes me doubt Canons best glass.


Well, if you don't have good glass, the best body in the world will  
do you little good.


But Canon does make quite a number of excellent lenses. I tend to  
prefer the Pentax lenses' imaging qualities, but I made many many  
excellent photos with my Canon 10D gear before I bought the *ist DS.


The DS continues to provide adequate quality and functionality for my  
needs. When next I need something better, I'll consider all options  
as always. :-)


Godfrey

Re: OT: Binary watch

[Scott Loveless]

On 8/28/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > $90US seems a lot of 
money just to be "carefree and eminently cool"  .> > Reminds me of a sig 
line on an e-mail I recently received from an old friend:> > "There are 10 
kinds of people in the world:  Those that understand> binary and those that 
don't."
I have that on a t-shirt.
Besides, you can get the super sized version for twenty 
bucks.http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/lights/59e0/



-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

Re: OT: Binary watch

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>$90US seems a lot of money just to be "carefree and eminently cool"  .

What? Seems like a bargain to me!
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Probably going to switch

[P. J. Alling]

Actually it just makes me doubt Canons best glass.

John Celio wrote:


After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera.



Did you miss that post (last week I think) with the link to Canon's 
official demo photos from the 5D?  Did you notice how awful the edges 
were on that wide-angle shot?  That was taken with Canon's best glass!


If that doesn't make you doubt the "advantages" of a 35mm-sensor, I 
don't know what will.


If there is ever a time to switch, I don't think now is it.

John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making 
a statement."






--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: 4th Test

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 28/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >A bit wobbly at the end, though.  Still don't trust them to give a
> 
> >thorough trouncing.
> 
> Sure but winning by a small margin instead of a big margin is still
> winning!
> 
> Tough luck Aussies!!
> 



Don't grab the urn yet - still one to go!


Cheers,

Brian

+
Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia

Re: Probably going to switch

[John Celio]

After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera.


Did you miss that post (last week I think) with the link to Canon's official 
demo photos from the 5D?  Did you notice how awful the edges were on that 
wide-angle shot?  That was taken with Canon's best glass!


If that doesn't make you doubt the "advantages" of a 35mm-sensor, I don't 
know what will.


If there is ever a time to switch, I don't think now is it.

John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement." 

RE: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Tim Øsleby]

Can somebody please post me a babelfish? 
ASAP

To those of you who doesn't understand what I'm referring to:
Read Douglas Adams, or ignore me, or do both.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29. august 2005 00:47
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: Bicycling in France: All primes
> 
> Mon aeroglisseur est plein d'anguilles
> 
> ...of course.
> 
> --
> Salut les mecs!
>  Bob
> 
> 
> > >" Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale "
> >
> > I'm still trying to work out how to say "My hovercraft is
> > full of eels."
> 
> 

RE: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Bob W]

Mon aeroglisseur est plein d'anguilles

...of course.

--
Salut les mecs!
 Bob 


> >" Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale "
> 
> I'm still trying to work out how to say "My hovercraft is 
> full of eels."

Re: A couple of PESOs

[frank theriault]

On 8/21/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting.
> This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure.
> Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of
> these beasties would be appreciated.
> 
> Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are
> here
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html
> 

They let you take pix near airports with big honking lenses in
Saskatchewan?  

I like the shots, BTW.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[P. J. Alling]

We don't allow guns in football, it's strictly medieval...

frank theriault wrote:


On 8/28/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


I'd expect it to be Canadian Rules...
   



Yes.  No guns, and you must apologize profusely if caught committing a
foul.  

cheers,
frank

 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: OT: Binary watch

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's something for digit-heads to amuse and confuse your friends, as well
> as yourselves.
> 
> http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/WATBIN.htm


Quoted from the description of the watch:

"The Binary Watch is so completely impossible to use (unless you're a
code-head) that not being able to tell the time is no longer a cause
for worry, but just perfectly normal behaviour. Of course for those of
you who 'get it', the Binary Watch - whilst palpably a watch - is not
about telling the time, it's about being carefree and eminently cool."

$90US seems a lot of money just to be "carefree and eminently cool"  .

Reminds me of a sig line on an e-mail I recently received from an old friend:

"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:  Those that understand
binary and those that don't."



cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Probably going to switch

[P. J. Alling]

Good luck.

Larry Hodgson wrote:


Hi gang:

After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera. With Canon's resources and it's ability to make it's
own sensors, I think it's clear that they will be the front runner and
leader of DSLR cameras. Now with the advantages full frame (you can argue
that if you wish}in a relatively small body, I think I'm going to switch and
purchase one in the next 6 months. Also there is more software support for
Canon amd Nikon, like DxO Optics 3.0, which does not support Pentax. Also
more lens available.

If Pentax comes out with something close for close the price, I'll
re-consider.

Your thoughts please.

Larry from Prescott


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

RE: Probably going to switch

[Larry Hodgson]

Does the number of high quality fully functional pentax lenses you already
own
dramatically affect your decision? ( You don't state ).
JCO


No. I'll still have my Pentax system as a backup.

Larry from Prescott

Re: PESO - Veins

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello frank,
> 
> Thanks for the comment.  I agree with you about imperfections.
> Sometimes having contrasting things in the image helps to strengthen
> the subject.
> 

I just re-read my post, and one would think that by now I'd realize
that the singular of "leaves" is "leaf".

I mean, not only is English my first language, it's my ~only~ language .

I think my confusion comes from living in Toronto.  We have a hockey
team here called the Toronto Maple Leafs.  Of course, "Leafs" is not
the plural of "Leaf".  It should really be the Toronto Maple Leaves,
shouldn't it?

I think living here for the past decade has confused me.  That's my
excuse, and I'm sticking to it.  I don't care if you beleave me or not
.

cheers,
frank



-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Concert lens length restriction

[P. J. Alling]

Didn't you point out it wasn't a Canon or Nikon so it couldn't be pro gear?

Pat White wrote:

Last night I went to see David Usher and his band, outdoors at 
Centennial Square, beside City Hall in downtown Victoria, BC, Canada.  
As I approached the gate, I was asked to open my knapsack, which 
revealed a small zoom bag and a larger lens case.


The security guard wanted to see inside the zoom bag, and, on seeing 
the MZ-S with 28-70 f4, went, "Hmm, looks like pro gear, what's in the 
big case?"  I replied, "A lens.", to which she replied, "You can't use 
that;  no zooms, four-inch limit on lenses.  Four inches, got that?"  
"Fine.", I replied, thinking it would be dark soon, and the black 
camera and black Sigma 70-200 f2.8 would be less noticeable then.


However, about a third of the way into the show, David Usher, 
appearing to respond to a fan standing in front of the stage, said 
"Photos? Sure, it's okay with me, it's okay with the band.  Flash?  
Well, okay, but if we make any mistakes because of a flash, it's your 
fault.", he said, pointing at the fan in a friendly way.  Then he 
said, apparently for the benefit of the security, "It's alright, let 
'em take pictures, we don't mind."


I happily shot a number of photos (no costume changes and not many 
lighting changes) and enjoyed the music.  The weather was great, 
around 20C with clear skies, and the band hung around for autographs 
after the show.


Has anyone else heard of a 4-inch limit on length of lenses at a 
concert? It was a first for me.


Pat White







--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd expect it to be Canadian Rules...

Yes.  No guns, and you must apologize profusely if caught committing a
foul.  

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Canadian football.
> It's similar, but different, nonetheless.
> Thanks for looking
> 

One more player on the field, considerably larger field, one less down
(meaning you only get 3 chances to move the ball 10 yards, rather than
4 in Amercan football).  All that, plus the players annual salaries
are measured in tens of thousands of dollars, not millions as in the
US.

Still, a fun game to watch;  highly entertaining.  It was even better
when we had two teams in the CFL (Canadian Football League) named the
Roughriders:  The Ottawa Roughriders and the Saskatchewan Roughriders
(the green team in Bill's pix).  But, the Ottawa team folded several
years ago, and although there's a new team there now, they chose a
different moniker.  It was always fun trying to explain a "Roughriders
vs. Roughriders" game to foreigners .
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Probably going to switch

[Herb Chong]

the earliest i expect an announcement from Pentax is PMAI in February next 
year and the earliest i expect it available is around PhotoPlus in November 
of that year. although i have a pile of high quality lenses, including FA*, 
A*, and Limiteds, and most of the recent macros, high quality lenses on a 
body that can't capture the image when i need it doesn't do me any good. 
Pentax might surprise us with an announcement at PhotoPlus this year, in 
which case figure the summer of next year before it is available. i believe 
that the surprise won't happen, no matter how necessary it is. the 5D 
announcement has made the 645D even more questionable, as far as i am 
concerned.


Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: Probably going to switch



If Pentax comes out with something close for close the price, I'll
re-consider.

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[P. J. Alling]

I'd expect it to be Canadian Rules...

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html

Shot with the F*300/4.5.
Seems a decent enough lens



Bill, it is technically very sound and competent... But without any 
knowledge of the game (it is American football, isn't it?) I can say 
nothing more.


*sigh*

Boris





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html
> 
> Shot with the F*300/4.5.
> Seems a decent enough lens
> 

I like #2.  Nice action shot.  Sure looks like a sharp lens to me!

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: 4th Test

[P. J. Alling]

What happened to the first three?


Cotty wrote:


Hoover on that!!!




Cheers,
 Cotty


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--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PAW - "Shell"

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello David,
> 
> Very strking shot.  The contrasts are wonderful.  I just wish there
> was a little more DOF in the background to really make the shot
> outstanding.

I looked at the pic, then scrolled down to see if anyone else would
have liked more dof, and I see that Bruce agrees with me (or more
accurately, I agree with Bruce ).

It is a lovely pic as is, though.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In addition to the boat shot, I really love the little girl eating
> spaghetti and the color shot of the girl running toward camera across
> the cracked landscape. Fascinating shot.
> Paul
> On Aug 28, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 

That little cutie is Boris' daughter, isn't it Boris?  I agree with
the others;  a terrific photo!

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[P. J. Alling]

Interesting, I like the first shot, almost like the team is going to 
scrimmage against the cheer leading squad...


William Robb wrote:


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html

Shot with the F*300/4.5.
Seems a decent enough lens

William Robb





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is
> my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here
> you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of
> those you've seen, some you haven't...
> 
> Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and appreciated.
> 
> http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/
> 
> Thanks.

A strong gallery, Boris.  I know I'm really behind on PAW's and
PESO's, and will likely not catch up (I think I'll have to delete a
bunch of older ones).  If the first one of the older couple on the
bench was a PAW, I'm glad I saw it now.  What a wonderful photo.  I
can't figure out what, but there's something very compelling about it.

And, of course, the rest are wonderful, too.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: Probably going to switch

[J. C. O'Connell]

Does the number of high quality fully functional pentax lenses you already
own
dramatically affect your decision? ( You don't state ).
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hodgson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:26 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Probably going to switch


Hi gang:

After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera. With Canon's resources and it's ability to make it's
own sensors, I think it's clear that they will be the front runner and
leader of DSLR cameras. Now with the advantages full frame (you can argue
that if you wish}in a relatively small body, I think I'm going to switch and
purchase one in the next 6 months. Also there is more software support for
Canon amd Nikon, like DxO Optics 3.0, which does not support Pentax. Also
more lens available.

If Pentax comes out with something close for close the price, I'll
re-consider.

Your thoughts please.

Larry from Prescott

Probably going to switch

[Larry Hodgson]

Hi gang:

After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera. With Canon's resources and it's ability to make it's
own sensors, I think it's clear that they will be the front runner and
leader of DSLR cameras. Now with the advantages full frame (you can argue
that if you wish}in a relatively small body, I think I'm going to switch and
purchase one in the next 6 months. Also there is more software support for
Canon amd Nikon, like DxO Optics 3.0, which does not support Pentax. Also
more lens available.

If Pentax comes out with something close for close the price, I'll
re-consider.

Your thoughts please.

Larry from Prescott

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Paul Stenquist]

In addition to the boat shot, I really love the little girl eating 
spaghetti and the color shot of the girl running toward camera across 
the cracked landscape. Fascinating shot.

Paul
On Aug 28, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is 
my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here 
you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of 
those you've seen, some you haven't...


Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and 
appreciated.


http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/

Thanks.

Boris

Re: I should know this ...

[John Likes]

But that's imperial gallons, and we visiting yanks still have to make the 
mental conversion to dollars.  As Vanderbuilt said about the Corsair, "If 
you have to ask, you can't afford it."


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: I should know this ...



On 28/8/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:


Hmm, I've heard of fuel economy commonly expressed as kilometres per
litre, litres per 100km and miles per gallon.  But miles per litre is
new to me.  FWIW our new car gets about 1.2 million cubits to the
bushel (that's US bushels).


Fuel in litres, distances in miles (roadsigns and odometers), economy
ratings in MPG. Go figure.




Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Paul Stenquist]

What Godders said. Excellent shot.
Paul
On Aug 28, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

You have a nice gallery of photos there, all of them. Showing my 
druthers, I preferred four of the five B&W renderings over the color 
renderings, but for one (the floating leaf). This one, however, is my 
favorite:


  http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/pages/IMGP3431-b-w.htm

Godfrey

On Aug 28, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is
my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here
you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of
those you've seen, some you haven't...

Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and 
appreciated.


http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/

Thanks.

--
Boris

Re: PAW - "Shell"

[Paul Stenquist]

Photoner uploads must be stripped of EXIF data.  "Save for Web" does 
this quickly and efficiently while allowing various levels of 
compression. For those of us who use Photonet, it's a useful tool.

Paul
On Aug 28, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Aug 28, 2005, at 2:41 AM, David Mann wrote:

This one hasn't come up quite as well as I'd hoped, but here it is 
anyway.  I liked the texture in the sand but the shell has blown out.


http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=100&t=PAW


Nice work, despite the burn on the shell.


The Save For Web dialog loads in a geological timescale though, but 
that may be related to the system itself starting to get a little 
short on memory...


I don't really understand using the "Save for Web" application. Seems 
to me to add a lot of needless complication. When making a web-rez 
image, I

- set view to 100%,
- downsample to the appropriate pixel size I want,
- convert to sRGB profile,
- convert pixel depth to 8bit,
- run a light USM pass to snap back the lost apparent sharpness,
- Save As to a JPEG file at quality #6 including the ICC profile.

I have all this in a one-button action in Photoshop. If I need to 
strip EXIF info, I do that as a separate action.


I understand that the ImageReady application can do a lot of things 
that might be interesting or useful for commercial website 
development, but for prepping images for my personal gallery and such 
it seems way overkill.


Godfrey

Re: SMCP-M 200/4 on Ebay

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, Gary Sibio, discombobulated, unleashed:

>No problem. I'll mention it's mine next time.

That would be helpful. Not all eBay IDs immediately relate to the name of
a real person, or an ID being used on a mailing list. Most folks say
something like 'here's one of my lenses up for auction'. It's not difficult.

Or maybe it is!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Mark Roberts]

"Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> 
>>> Should be fun... as long as I can scrape by on my (very) 
>>> minimal French language skills :-)
>> 
>> This should serve you well in most any difficult situation:
>> 
>> " Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale "
>> 
>"péter" is the verb you're trying to squeeze out.

Perhaps he's just being long-winded?
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Mark Roberts]

"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>From: "Mark Roberts"Subject: Bicycling in France: All primes
>
>> > Should be fun... as long as I can scrape by on my (very) minimal French
>> language skills :-)
>
>This should serve you well in most any difficult situation:
>
>" Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale "

I'm still trying to work out how to say "My hovercraft is full of eels."
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: PESO - London Sketches - 1

[Cotty]

It's Truman Capote in a time warp!!



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO - (OT) Captive

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>
>(marked OT as no Pentax equipment used, unfortunately)
>
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>  Cotty
>===
>Nice, Cotty. He looks haunted.

Thanks Marn.  XX




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: I should know this ...

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hmm, I've heard of fuel economy commonly expressed as kilometres per  
>litre, litres per 100km and miles per gallon.  But miles per litre is  
>new to me.  FWIW our new car gets about 1.2 million cubits to the  
>bushel (that's US bushels).

Fuel in litres, distances in miles (roadsigns and odometers), economy
ratings in MPG. Go figure.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hi!
>
>Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is
>my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here
>you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of
>those you've seen, some you haven't...
>
>Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and appreciated.
>
>http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/


Well done Boris - great gallery - some wonderful pics, nicely displayed.
Big thumbs up here. I'd lose the colour shot of the boats - the mono one
is fantastic. Well done you mad Russian :-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 28, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:


This is scaled down from 1311x1817, doesn't seem to add any
artifacts though.


hmm. I put the image into iView Media Pro and played with scaling it  
up and down a bit. Scaled to approximately 2/3 of its current size,  
the out of focus rendering softens nicely.



The ant stands out quite clearly on my monitor as the only
area of true black.
May be my calibration though, I'll have to check it again,
it's been a couple of months.


When I first saw the photo, I thought the ant was a cluster of  
berries of some sort. The photo is somewhat busy right there in the  
middle. Enlarged 2x, the ant's head, thorax, abdomen and legs are clear.


This point is a matter of opinion, so if you're happy with it, who's  
to say anything otherwise? ;-)


Godfrey

Re: Concert lens length restriction

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Next time it happens, ask the guard if they chose 4" because he could
>measure it himself...

Why does a security guard leave his flies open?


In case he has to count to eleven




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Concert lens length restriction

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, Pat White, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Has anyone else heard of a 4-inch limit on length of lenses at a concert? 

ROTFL.

That's rich.

So now it's down to fooling security staff? But it has pretty much been
so. Certain places won't let you in with a tripod (far too professional).
There's always a way round these things.

At least with 1.6 crop factors, a decent fast prime with a usable length
will be pretty short compared to a zoom. I just measured the A*85mm and
it's 3 inches from front to mounting plate at infinity focus (shortest
physical length). Still less than 3.5 inches overall, off the camera.
That's not a bad concert lens on a digi (providing you're close enough).

Actually I'm surprised cameras are allowed in at all. The default setting
over here in the UK seems to be no cameras or recording equipment allowed
at all. Of course, people do get past security with them




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: 4th Test

[Cotty]

On 28/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A bit wobbly at the end, though.  Still don't trust them to give a 
>thorough trouncing.

Sure but winning by a small margin instead of a big margin is still winning!

Tough luck Aussies!!




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RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

This is scaled down from 1311x1817, doesn't seem to add any
artifacts though.
The ant stands out quite clearly on my monitor as the only
area of true black.
May be my calibration though, I'll have to check it again,
it's been a couple of months.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:00 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: Morning Stroll
> 
> 
> On Aug 28, 2005, at 6:10 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> > Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
> > I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
> > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm
> 
> I like the shot. It took a bit of study to notice the ant as it's not  
> particularly well separated from the surrounding elements of the photo.
> 
> > It's a bit different, and it shows the weird Bokeh I get with _my_
> > 50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
> > Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.
> 
> Is this a 100% crop section, or scaled? When evaluating a lens'  
> rendering with a digital camera, you have to be very careful to  
> separate what is produced by the lens vs what is produced as an  
> artifact of the scaling of an image. Scaling of out of focus blur on  
> repeating patterns, for instance, can cause them to become  
> accentuated at integral multiples of the original capture resolution,  
> and attenuated at other scaling factors.
> 
> I've often had to do some additional rendering work after scaling an  
> image for web resolution to reduce or eliminate this kind of artifact.
> 
> Godfrey
> 

RE: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Tim Øsleby]

Most of them are good, but this two stands out:

The spaghetti eater is a real charmer. Eating with the whole face. 
But now specks at the t-shirt? That’s spooky ;-)

Also like the B&W with the boat in the tide. Enjoy the lines, and the
atmosphere.

Forgot one, the runner at the beach!


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28. august 2005 21:03
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)
> 
> You have a nice gallery of photos there, all of them. Showing my
> druthers, I preferred four of the five B&W renderings over the color
> renderings, but for one (the floating leaf). This one, however, is my
> favorite:
> 
>http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/pages/IMGP3431-b-w.htm
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> On Aug 28, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is
> > my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here
> > you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of
> > those you've seen, some you haven't...
> >
> > Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and
> > appreciated.
> >
> > http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Boris
> >
> >
> 

GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is my 
first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here you 
have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of those 
you've seen, some you haven't...


Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and appreciated.

http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/

Thanks.

Boris

Re: "... I have the same bag ..."

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I see more signs and portents in the detritus on the sidewalk than  
in the newspaper.

Care to give us your "reading of the entrails"?
That's probably going to be on the invitation to my next show or in  
the preface to my first book... ;-)



Time to change your newspaper...
I much prefer these signs and portents to the BS I read in the  
newspapers, Bob. :-)


Godfrey

Re: GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

You have a nice gallery of photos there, all of them. Showing my  
druthers, I preferred four of the five B&W renderings over the color  
renderings, but for one (the floating leaf). This one, however, is my  
favorite:


  http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/pages/IMGP3431-b-w.htm

Godfrey

On Aug 28, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is
my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here
you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of
those you've seen, some you haven't...

Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and  
appreciated.


http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/

Thanks.

--
Boris

RE: Concert lens length restriction

[Bob W]

Hi,
> 
> Has anyone else heard of a 4-inch limit on length of lenses 
> at a concert? 
> It was a first for me.
> 

that's 100mm, so your zoom should have been ok.

Next time it happens, ask the guard if they chose 4" because he could
measure it himself...

Bob

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 28, 2005, at 6:10 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:


Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm


I like the shot. It took a bit of study to notice the ant as it's not  
particularly well separated from the surrounding elements of the photo.



It's a bit different, and it shows the weird Bokeh I get with _my_
50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.


Is this a 100% crop section, or scaled? When evaluating a lens'  
rendering with a digital camera, you have to be very careful to  
separate what is produced by the lens vs what is produced as an  
artifact of the scaling of an image. Scaling of out of focus blur on  
repeating patterns, for instance, can cause them to become  
accentuated at integral multiples of the original capture resolution,  
and attenuated at other scaling factors.


I've often had to do some additional rendering work after scaling an  
image for web resolution to reduce or eliminate this kind of artifact.


Godfrey

RE: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Bob W]

"péter" is the verb you're trying to squeeze out.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> > > Should be fun... as long as I can scrape by on my (very) 
> minimal French
> > language skills :-)
> 
> This should serve you well in most any difficult situation:
> 
> " Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale "
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Patch adding hidden functios to PS EL

[Tim Øsleby]

Boris, or somebody else.
I have installed the patch now. Curves are working, but I can't find the
channel mixer. And the channel mixer is the main reason I downloaded it now.


Where is channel mixer supposed to be, in the effects bin or some place
else?

Don't believe there will be much help in using the help function ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26. august 2005 08:30
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Patch adding hidden functios to PS EL
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > I stumbled across a patch that is supposed to add some of the hidden
> > function in Elements.
> > - Curves
> > - Channel mixer
> > - Layer mask
> > - Selective Colour adjustments
> > And it’s free! To good to be true?
> > Does anybody know anything significant about this?
> > http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html
> 
> Yes, I've been using it for months now. It just works...
> 
> There is one gotcha though. When you use those funcs, you actually add a
> layer to your image. Curves layer, CM layer, etc... Once added the layer
> is not editable like in full PS. Elements will say this belongs to by
> bigger brother so to say. Otherwise, it just works as advertised.
> 
> Boris
> 

GESO - UK 2005 (version 1.0)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Finally I realized I have enough images to compile a gallery. This is
my first attempt on using automated gallery creation tools. So here
you have 16 images. Each image is roughly 150 Kb in size. Some of
those you've seen, some you haven't...

Feel free to comment. Brutality and honesty are requested and appreciated.

http://boris.isra-shop.com/uk-2005/

Thanks.

-- 
Boris

Re: PAW - "Shell"

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 28, 2005, at 2:41 AM, David Mann wrote:

This one hasn't come up quite as well as I'd hoped, but here it is  
anyway.  I liked the texture in the sand but the shell has blown out.


http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=100&t=PAW


Nice work, despite the burn on the shell.


The Save For Web dialog loads in a geological timescale though, but  
that may be related to the system itself starting to get a little  
short on memory...


I don't really understand using the "Save for Web" application. Seems  
to me to add a lot of needless complication. When making a web-rez  
image, I

- set view to 100%,
- downsample to the appropriate pixel size I want,
- convert to sRGB profile,
- convert pixel depth to 8bit,
- run a light USM pass to snap back the lost apparent sharpness,
- Save As to a JPEG file at quality #6 including the ICC profile.

I have all this in a one-button action in Photoshop. If I need to  
strip EXIF info, I do that as a separate action.


I understand that the ImageReady application can do a lot of things  
that might be interesting or useful for commercial website  
development, but for prepping images for my personal gallery and such  
it seems way overkill.


Godfrey

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Paul Stenquist]

Not a bad pic, although the subject of interest (the bug) is not very 
well suited to shooting at this distance. Bokeh is largely dependent on 
the shape of the background objects and how distant they are from the 
subject. Here, you have some very bright objects that are too close to 
form smooth out of focus patterns.

Paul
On Aug 28, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


Hi Don,

I almost thought the background was like that because you wanted to.
Bokeh? I have to try that on my A 50/1.4. Works out very nice. Well 
done.


Manuel

-Mensagem original-
De: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: domingo, 28 de Agosto de 2005 14:11
Para: PDML
Assunto: PESO: Morning Stroll

Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.) I 
came up

with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm

It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_ 
50/1.4.

Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

Don

OT: Binary watch

[Pat White]

Here's something for digit-heads to amuse and confuse your friends, as well 
as yourselves.


http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/WATBIN.htm

Pat White 

Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'm with you on the "all primes" idea ... except for the FA20-35,  
which I find much more useful than carrying 20, 24, 28 and 35mm  
lenses individually, and not a great deal the less in terms of image  
quality. It's smaller and lighter than the FA31/1.8 too.


My next "trip kit" is going to be DA14/2.8, FA20-35/4, FA35/2,  
F50/1.7, and FA135/2.8. Maybe add the F35-70 or FA28-105 for  
convenience. I fully expect that a majority of my photos will be made  
with the 20-35.


Godfrey

On Aug 28, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Getting ready for my bicycle trip in France next week. I depart Friday
and I'm now deciding what camera gear to bring. I'll obviously be
traveling very light on the bicycle (I'm thinking just ist-D and 43
Limited) but we're having most of out gear transported from one  
hotel to

the next for us so I can have more lenses and a lightweight tripod
available for around town shooting after we reach the day's  
destination.


I've made one decision already: No zooms. I do love my FA* zooms  
and the
Tamron 17-35 and Vivitar 70-210 S1, and I end up using zooms most  
of the

time for my "work" shooting. So much so that I want to deliberately
eschew all zooms for this recreational trip, even though I expect  
to be

going after some sellable shots while I'm there. Should be fun. I'll
bring the Pentax 20, 24, 31 and 43. I don't think I'll bring a 50 this
time. Oddly enough, the only long prime I have (other than the  
300/2.8,
which *will* be staying home!) is a 200/4.0 Cosina. It's a "pre-A"  
lens,

so I'd guess it to be late 70's or early 80's vintage. Lovely
construction and really nice optical characteristics (at least when
stopped down - I haven't tried it wide open yet).

Should be fun... as long as I can scrape by on my (very) minimal  
French

language skills :-)


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Concert lens length restriction

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Pat White" Subject: Concert lens length restriction




>
Has anyone else heard of a 4-inch limit on length of lenses at a concert? 
It was a first for me.


Intersting bit of ignorance, since:
A) Inches officially don't exist is Canada.
B) Some of these really long range zoome lenses are anout that ong when 
collapsed.


William Robb 

Re: Peso: Two from the football game

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: Peso: Two from the football game





Bill, it is technically very sound and competent... But without any 
knowledge of the game (it is American football, isn't it?) I can say 
nothing more.


Canadian football.
It's similar, but different, nonetheless.
Thanks for looking

William Robb

Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts"Subject: Bicycling in France: All primes




> Should be fun... as long as I can scrape by on my (very) minimal French
language skills :-)


This should serve you well in most any difficult situation:

" Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale "

William Robb 

Re: Belkin Pop-up Shade

[John Celio]

I asked Belkin about the availibility of a Pop-up Shade for the *istD and 
received the following response:


We are currently reviewing this model. I will pass your request on for 
consideration in future model decisions and I will email you if we decide 
to carry this model.


Delkin has nothing to do with the production of those shades.  They're the 
same as Hoodman's shades, but Hoodman has nothing to do with their 
production, either.  They're made by a company called HKJenis (I learned 
this from our Hoodman rep).


http://www.hkjenis.com/

They list a couple of their hoods as being compatible with Pentax dSLRs, but 
if you look at their specs, you attatch them to the camera with "3m 
conglutination".  I'm 99% certain this means you stick it on permanently. 
They probably don't think they could make enough money with a snap-on hood 
like their Nikon- and Canon-compatible hoods.


Of course, if a lot of Pentax users wrote Delkin and Hoodman, that *might* 
help change HKJenis' mind.


John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement." 

Concert lens length restriction

[Pat White]

Last night I went to see David Usher and his band, outdoors at Centennial 
Square, beside City Hall in downtown Victoria, BC, Canada.  As I approached 
the gate, I was asked to open my knapsack, which revealed a small zoom bag 
and a larger lens case.


The security guard wanted to see inside the zoom bag, and, on seeing the 
MZ-S with 28-70 f4, went, "Hmm, looks like pro gear, what's in the big 
case?"  I replied, "A lens.", to which she replied, "You can't use that;  no 
zooms, four-inch limit on lenses.  Four inches, got that?"  "Fine.", I 
replied, thinking it would be dark soon, and the black camera and black 
Sigma 70-200 f2.8 would be less noticeable then.


However, about a third of the way into the show, David Usher, appearing to 
respond to a fan standing in front of the stage, said "Photos? Sure, it's 
okay with me, it's okay with the band.  Flash?  Well, okay, but if we make 
any mistakes because of a flash, it's your fault.", he said, pointing at the 
fan in a friendly way.  Then he said, apparently for the benefit of the 
security, "It's alright, let 'em take pictures, we don't mind."


I happily shot a number of photos (no costume changes and not many lighting 
changes) and enjoyed the music.  The weather was great, around 20C with 
clear skies, and the band hung around for autographs after the show.


Has anyone else heard of a 4-inch limit on length of lenses at a concert? 
It was a first for me.


Pat White

Re: PSD - portable storage devices?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I use the Epson P-2000. It's not the smallest device around and has a  
40G capacity. However, it takes both SD and CF cards, is pretty  
simple/easy to figure out, and has an excellent 3.5" diagonal LCD for  
image review. It can display Pentax' PEF files, as well as Canon,  
Minolta, Nikon and Olympus RAW formats. When displaying JPEGs, it can  
display histograms as well. It's got a good sized, custom form-factor  
Lithium-Ion battery that seems to be good for about 12G of data  
upload as well as a lot of review time per charge, probably more if  
you don't do as much review.


I bought it before I left on my trip and it did me excellent service:  
much less to carry than a laptop while retaining the ability to  
review and show photos to folks.


If the display capabilities are not important to you, or you'd like  
to save some money, the CompactDrive PD70X is the one I'd go for. It  
takes the same batteries as the D/DS cameras (AAs in NiMH or Lithium  
types), can act as a battery charger if you plug it in, and it's  
fast. You can buy it as a bare shell and fit whatever drive you want  
into it (2.5 inch x 9.5mm laptop hard drives). A set of AA Lithium  
disposables and an 80G drive, and it will probably upload nearly its  
full capacity on a single set of batteries.


Godfrey

Re: 4th Test

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:


Hoover on that!!!

A bit wobbly at the end, though.  Still don't trust them to give a 
thorough trouncing.


m

PESO: Billionaires and Smugmug maps

[George Sinos]

Just a couple of semi-related items:

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates recently ate a local restaurant when
Gates visited town.

I snapped these shots of the Restaurant's tongue-in-cheek marquee.



Not great art, just a fun snapshot.

After you're checked out the photos, click on the "map this" button
near the upper right of the screen.  Smugmug, my photo site host, has
recently added a lot of new features.  For maps, they've connected
with Google to let folks give their photos a little geographic
context.

This gallery of shots of the Oklahoma City Riverwalk shows the mapping
feature off a little better.  After you get to the map page, click on
the "play" button.  As the mini-slide show progresses it leaves a
highlighted trail behind on the map.



It looks like a fun feature for vacation and nature photos.

By the way, if you signup for Smugmug, paste this code de1Hg7l4vbFRM
into the "referral by" field for a discount.

See you later, gs

Re: ist DS and Flash

[John Celio]

Does anyone know how best to side-step the lack of a pc
connector on an ist DS?  I am stumped - I tried an old pc
connector to hot shoe adapter and that did not work.  I ask
because I would like to use the ist DS with a Novatron kit.



My store carries Wein Digital Hot Shoe Slave units, which have a PC sync on 
them.  I've used these on a few occassions, and found they work great with 
just about any dSLR.  Aside from the PC sync you're looking for, you can 
also attatch it to your flash (if it doesn't have slave capabilities) and 
get proper slave firing with your DS's double-firing pop-up flash.


http://www.omegasatter.com/v2/products/displaycategory.cfm?CatID=495

Essentially, the Wein unit ignores the first flash (which the camera uses 
for metering) and fires on the second.  It's worked very well for me.


Anyway, if you pick up any Wein unit, make sure you test it before you leave 
the store.  Every now and then we get units that are faulty straight from 
the factory.


John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement." 

4th Test

[Cotty]

Hoover on that!!!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PAW - "Shell"

[Christian]

It's a very nice composition, but you're right, the shell is too blown out.

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: "David Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:41 AM
Subject: PAW - "Shell"


> Hi all,
> 
> This one hasn't come up quite as well as I'd hoped, but here it is  
> anyway.  I liked the texture in the sand but the shell has blown out.
> 
> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=100&t=PAW
> 
> BTW I want to formally retract all those times I've said that  
> Photoshop CS gets a bit hairy when it's using lots of memory (>1Gb).   
> I tried using the scanner driver standalone, and PS seems to behave a  
> lot better now.  I had it up to 1.5Gb and it was fine... so I suspect  
> that my scanner driver plugin is doing strange things.
> 
> The Save For Web dialog loads in a geological timescale though, but  
> that may be related to the system itself starting to get a little  
> short on memory...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - Dave
> 
>