Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Dario Bonazza

Mark Roberts wrote:


Funny, there's no mention of cormorants anywhere.
Oh wait, wrong magazine...



That was May issue.

Dario



RE: cultural image perception

2005-10-06 Thread Gautam Sarup
Chopsticks make a good meal last longer!

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:37 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: cultural image perception
>
>
> Even more perplexing then... :)
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >Subject: Re: cultural image perception
> >Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:29:01 -0400
> >
> >They did use the spoon...
> >
> >Tom C wrote:
> >
> >>I know the popular story regarding chopsticks being an extension of the
> >>fingers... Really though, I just can't understand why a culture
> that used
> >>shovels to move dirt efficiently couldn't relate that to the human
> >>anatomy... I mean, if you want to dig a hole, do you go get two
> poles and
> >>manipulate them, picking up dirt between them. until the hole is dug?
> >>
> >>Tom C.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>>Subject: Re: cultural image perception
> >>>Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:46:14 -0400
> >>>
> >>>I've seen it claimed that the Chinese actually invented the fork, just
> >>>never adopted it as a table implement. Chopsticks worked well enough.
> >>>
> >>>Tom C wrote:
> >>>
> It may explain why they invented chopsticks... lack of
> focus... whereas
> the western world has a no-nonsense fork, knife, and spoon...
> stab the
> meat.. no slight intended... just always wondering... and
> blathering...
> 
> Somewhat interesting...
> 
> http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2002/0117/cu18-1.html
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Jim Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: "pdml" 
> >Subject: Re: cultural image perception Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005
> 18:25:44
> >-0300
> >
> >Vic, thanks for the interesting link in "Mind the
> Chinese...".  I think
> >that
> >your post raises a wide range of cutural image perception
> issues.  For
> >me, a
> >line or series of elements with visual flow from the low
> left to high
> >right
> >in an image has a dynamic and on-going quality, while a similar
> >structure
> >going from low right to high left seems regressive.  Is this the same
> >perception as one who reads from right to left ?  Do others who read
> >from
> >left to right (as I do) have the up-and-to-the-right as
> "positive", or
> >is it
> >a consequence of math graphs with +x,+y in the upper right quadrant ?
> >
> >Jim
> >www.jcolwell.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream
> and shout).
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
> >
>
>
>




Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I ~do~ like it, I just think it could be a bit better.  But, I'm of the
opinion that my opinions are out of step with what most people on this list
think about most photos. 

Shel 
"Am I paranoid or perceptive?" 


> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault 

>
> Shel Belinkoff  wrote:

> > Hi Frank ... I guess we have much different ideas about what's
acceptable
> > in a photo.
>
> i guess...  
>
>   I think you've caught a nice scene here but, for me, it's
> > ruined by the tilt and the guy's head in the window that's cut off.
>
> thanks for your thoughts and comment, shel.  i'd rather you be honest
> and tell me what you think than lie and tell me you like it when you
> don't.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




RE: *ist Ds Shutter actuations

2005-10-06 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Dave.
We all have money problems...Just ask my Missus :-)

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

-Original Message-
From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:40 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: *ist Ds Shutter actuations


Well obviously you don't have money problems.

Dave (who has no problem at all with money. I quite like it in fact)






RE: *ist Ds Shutter actuations

2005-10-06 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Cotty.
Must have been your distant relative that originated from ancestors that
were transported here in the 1700's... :-)
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor. 
Grafton 

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:23 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: *ist Ds Shutter actuations


On 6/10/05, Trevor Bailey, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Today I took possession of a Second hand *ist Ds.
>It's 9 months old.
>Got it from a bloke with money problems.

I didn't sell you anything!




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_






Heading across the pond.

2005-10-06 Thread Cesar
I am over a month behind on the list - many threads have been deleted.  
I am still planning on catchin up - so bear with me.


The news is that I am headed to London, England this month.  Too long a 
story to explain how this all came about...


I will be leaving the USA on the 17th and returning on the 31st.  I will 
be visiting my cousin.  Therefore I will not have weekends available.


Any interest in any PDML members getting together?

Of course Cotty has first dibs on my time :-)

Let me know of any interest,

César
Panama City, Florida

P.S. I will probably be traveling with only the LXen and maybe an MX - 
no medium format,  and I am thinking about digital...




Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C

What! You think Canadians are SOCIALISTS?  You Svine!

Tom C.

Boris wrote:


I are wishing you fastest and complete recovery.

But, Frank, you ought to fight for more than just your bike and 4 missed  
work days...


Boris






Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C
FU, DU, and SU Jack... you're trying to run Tampax (I mean Pentax) out of 
business.


Tom C.





From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:22:23 -0700 (PDT)

Herb,
I didn't mention this in my first post, but the reason I asked what you
shot the scenes with was because the images have a brilliance an
clarity that impressed me.
I'm not taking anything away from your terrific uploads, but the well
composed scenes have a special pop about them.
I have a pro photog friend who just took delivery of a D2X and is
virtually as happy with it as with his 22mp backed Contax 645.
I messed with a few minutes and he practly had to pry it from my grip
to get it back. :-)

Jack

--- Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i had a pile of money set aside waiting for a hint from Pentax. needs
>
> outweighed everything else after a while, including a big pile of top
> Pentax
> glass.
>
> Herb
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks
>
>
> > The point is that Pentax doesn't offer anything but the "lower
> level"
> > camera. (your description, not mine).  It isn't the camera's fault.
>  It's
> > the manufacturers fault.
>
>




__
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
http://mail.yahoo.com






Re: Pentax TimeLine

2005-10-06 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée

Michel Carrère-Gée a écrit :

There are two or three years, a member of PDML published two documents 
which I preserved:

"Pentax 35mm lens timeline"


http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/PentaxLensTimeLine.pdf


and
"Pentax SLR timeline"


http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/PentaxSlrTimeLine.pdf


I don't find the author nor the address Web; who remembers ?


Michel





Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C
You're not saying that cops would stop for skunks before they would stop for 
laywers, are you?


Tom C.





From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders 
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:58:17 -0400

Aw hell!

You are not paranoid enough, Frank. They are out to run you over. You have 
to be ready to dodge. And I see that cops up there are as dumb as they are 
down here. Probably figured you were a substandard person because you 
couldn't afford a car.


I hate to say it but were their any skid marks? (old lawyer joke)

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



frank theriault wrote:


well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson











RE: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C

The bloomin' world is pretty bloomin' sad somtime ain't it?

Get the point, I do.

Tom C.





From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: PDML 
Subject: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:33:57 -0400

don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments 

http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg

apologies to bob sullivan 

-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson






RE: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C

WHOA BRO!...

Sorry to hear about that.  Thank God you're OK, so to speak.

I hope you mend well and get everything taken care of according to your 
wishes. Sincerely sorry to hear about it.


'ere's the the thing then... any time you 'ave off, just take it as a 
'oliday and go take some bloomin' pictures!


Tom C.





From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: PDML 
Subject: OT: matching shoulders 
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:27:32 -0400

well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson






RE: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Gautam Sarup
Frank,

Sorry to hear the bad news.  Hope you're riding
around soon.  Keep us posted.

Gautam

> -Original Message-
> From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:28 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: OT: matching shoulders 
> 
> 
> well, today started with a bang!
> 
> i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
> to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
> and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
> tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
> hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
> a lot.
> 
> bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
> bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
> (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
> fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!
> 
> i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
> a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
> the fracture clinic in a few days.
> 
> i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
> insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
> try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
> i'll be off my bikes for a while.
> 
> i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
> seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
> dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
> headache!
> 
> more details later when i can type with 2 hands .
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 



RE: News flash: Canadians not submissive!

2005-10-06 Thread Gautam Sarup
Me? I'm unconventional. Really!



> -Original Message-
> From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:44 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: News flash: Canadians not submissive!
> 
> 
> On 10/6/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ;-)
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4317528.stm
> > Enjoy!
> >
> 
> what the &*%# are they talking about!?!
> 
> 
> 
> -frank
> 
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 



Where to buy and develope infrared film in Frankfurt Germany?

2005-10-06 Thread Greg Cooper
Sorry, I also should have said I'm referring to the Kodak highspeed b&w 
infrared, not the colour infrared film.


Thanks
Greg Cooper
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada 



Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice!
On 10/6/05, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> well Dern.> Sorry ya'll, I 
didn't realize that was a registered member's only page :(> How about the 
source location:> http://www.mindspring.com/~d0cwh/pd1.JPG> 
http://www.mindspring.com/~d0cwh/pd3.JPG>> - Original Message -> From: 
"Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: 
Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:40 PM> Subject: Re: OT: Driving shots (not 
mine)>>> >I received the following message:> > "You are not logged in or you do 
not have permission to access this page."> > On 10/6/05, cbwaters <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:>> > 
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422408>> A local guy> > 
got boared with his Cannon so he strapped it to his Mini and> went> > driving.  
A couple cool shots with a neat perspective.> Bummer about the> > mirror 
though...>> CW>>> >> >> >> > --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > 
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.> > Version: 7.0.344 / V!
 irus Database: 267.11.11/121 - Release Date: 10/6/2005> >> >>>



Re: Re: Trip to Prague, any suggestions?

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You're right -- it's the Vltava (the Moldau).
On 10/6/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >> > From: Joseph Tainter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > Mike is right, it has many tourists. It also has 
perhaps the most> > beautiful old city I have seen. For photography it 
wonderful to get a> > guide book and just wander the old city on the Danube's 
east side. On> > the west side of the Danube, you can see the Mala Strana 
(Prague Castle> > District) and the streets below. This area is also very 
crowded, yet you> > must see it.>> Somebody's probably already corrected you 
but it's not the Danube.  You are a bit far north...>>> > You can take a Danube 
boat ride and photograph many wonderful buildings> > without so many 
tourists.>> I recommend the "Little Venice" trip.  Some good, atmosheric areas, 
unlike the big boat cruises.  You get tickets from the people dressed in sailor 
suits on the east side of Karlov Most.>> mike>>> 
-> Email sent from www.ntlworld.com> 
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Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.


Shit, shit, shit!

Frank, take the car drive to the court or whatever the procedure is and 
make him suffer at least as much as you did. He/She *deserves* that.



i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!


Julia and I are wishing you fastest and complete recovery.

But, Frank, you ought to fight for more than just your bike and 4 missed 
 work days...


Boris



Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ouch! Sorry to hear this, Frank. Hope you feel better soon.  
'''; 
'''

On Oct 6, 2005, at 9:27 PM, frank theriault wrote:


well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X

2005-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


You know that this is the official policy of the Israely Nikon
importer - the are taking gear bought ONLY directly from them or via
official distributors. if you get your gear from US (any shop like B&H
or adorama) - you are on your own there... you have to send it
yourself to the warranty in US or europe.

BTW, Canon in Israel does the same thing...


Surely, I know that. But I witnessed with my own eye the guy buying the 
camera from *local* distributor (Hadar Photo).


Boris



Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Soak them in water until they separate. Give them a good rinse and dry 
them as you would a darkroom print.

Paul

On Oct 6, 2005, at 6:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in 
contact

with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass.

Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com





Re: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread John Coyle
Ouch, Frank, really sorry to hear that.  May be of some comfort to know I 
did a headstand off my bike when I was 17 and have no long-term effects - at 
least I don't think so!



John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: OT: matching shoulders 



well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf

http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html

--

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



Where to buy and develope infrared film in Frankfurt Germany?

2005-10-06 Thread Greg Cooper

Hi everyone.
Does anyone know any photo stores and or labs in Frankfurt am Main (or 
Heidelberg) that will sell and develope kodak  infrared?
I am visiting some friends who live near Heidelberg and would like to shoot 
some infrared pics of old castles etc.
I don't want to gamble bringing the film with me from Canada, shooting, then 
bringing it back-what with the xrays and trying to keep the film cool.


Thanks,
Greg Cooper
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada 



Pictures from a vacation IX

2005-10-06 Thread William Robb

Full frame shot off the Optio.
This is our small dog.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP0612.html


William Robb



Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I guess working as a dispatcher is just as
dangerous as being out on the bike
all day!

YOUCH! 
poor you ---

there, there  
and hugs -- ooops -- no - better skip the hugs

ann


frank theriault wrote:
> 
> well, today started with a bang!
> 
> i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
> to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
> and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
> tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
> hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
> a lot.
> 
> bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
> bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
> (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
> fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!
> 
> i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
> a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
> the fracture clinic in a few days.
> 
> i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
> insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
> try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
> i'll be off my bikes for a while.
> 
> i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
> seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
> dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
> headache!
> 
> more details later when i can type with 2 hands .
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)

2005-10-06 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:34:09 -0400, cbwaters wrote:

> http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422408

"You are not logged in or do not have permission to access this page."

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Herb,
I didn't mention this in my first post, but the reason I asked what you
shot the scenes with was because the images have a brilliance an
clarity that impressed me.
I'm not taking anything away from your terrific uploads, but the well
composed scenes have a special pop about them.
I have a pro photog friend who just took delivery of a D2X and is
virtually as happy with it as with his 22mp backed Contax 645.
I messed with a few minutes and he practly had to pry it from my grip
to get it back. :-)

Jack

--- Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i had a pile of money set aside waiting for a hint from Pentax. needs
> 
> outweighed everything else after a while, including a big pile of top
> Pentax 
> glass.
> 
> Herb
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks
> 
> 
> > The point is that Pentax doesn't offer anything but the "lower
> level" 
> > camera. (your description, not mine).  It isn't the camera's fault.
>  It's 
> > the manufacturers fault.
> 
> 




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Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello frank,

Very glad that you are ok.  So sorry to hear about the accident and
subsequent abuse.  I do hope that things will work out well for you.
Sounds like the helmet did the job.  I'm assuming you are going to
need a new one.  Maybe the company who made it can use you in an ad?

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, October 6, 2005, 6:27:32 PM, you wrote:

ft> well, today started with a bang!

ft> i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
ft> to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
ft> and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
ft> tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
ft> hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
ft> a lot.

ft> bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
ft> bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
ft> (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
ft> fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

ft> i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
ft> a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
ft> the fracture clinic in a few days.

ft> i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
ft> insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
ft> try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
ft> i'll be off my bikes for a while.

ft> i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
ft> seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
ft> dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
ft> headache!

ft> more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

ft> cheers,
ft> frank
ft> --
ft> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
That your squatTING reflection in the window? 
This is a good grab of a well titled and nicely composed endearing
scene.

Jack

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments
> 
> 
> http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg
> 
> apologies to bob sullivan 
> 
> -frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 





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Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
You really got to be more careful.  Get a Bell for crisakes, it will 
help protect you from the speeding cars...


frank theriault wrote:


well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 




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Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice shot, I like that the dog has his own portable rug.  (I was also 
looking for the self portrait).

Nicely captured.

frank theriault wrote:


don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments 

http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg

apologies to bob sullivan 

-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 




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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Juan Buhler
Wow Frank, that's scary.

I'm happy it wasn't worse and you're telling us the story. Graywolf is
right: as a friend of mine says, don't assume they don't see you:
assume they see you and they want to take you out.

Hope you recover quickly.

j

On 10/6/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, today started with a bang!
>
> i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
> to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
> and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
> tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
> hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
> a lot.
>
> bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
> bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
> (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
> fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!
>
> i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
> a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
> the fracture clinic in a few days.
>
> i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
> insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
> try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
> i'll be off my bikes for a while.
>
> i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
> seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
> dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
> headache!
>
> more details later when i can type with 2 hands .
>
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
>


--
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http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Herb Chong
that's not what i saw. it's gone from the 
http://www.naturephotographers.net/ web site now. it used to be in the 
online store. i don't think Kirk ever sold it direct.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds



Kirk made, but seems to have discontinued, the Ground Shot 2.


The only thing from Kirk I could find is this:
http://www.kirkphoto.com/supports.html#lowpod

Not good for crawling through sand or anything else for that matter. 
It's more of a static support.




Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Herb Chong
i had a pile of money set aside waiting for a hint from Pentax. needs 
outweighed everything else after a while, including a big pile of top Pentax 
glass.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks


The point is that Pentax doesn't offer anything but the "lower level" 
camera. (your description, not mine).  It isn't the camera's fault.  It's 
the manufacturers fault.




Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Herb Chong

the D2X doesn't cost $3K, even in USD.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks



Three grand is about what I paid for my istD.
I got a battery pack and cheap lens with it, but it was still three grand.




Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>well, today started with a bang!
>
>i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
>to work this morning.  


Yikes! Scary story, especially to someone who regularly rides the roads.
Hope you're not out of action for too long. (And I hope the Canadian
court system works better than the one over here - I'm taking a legal
course as part of my masters program here and these things are even
*more* scary when you start to learn how they work!) 
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf

Aw hell!

You are not paranoid enough, Frank. They are out to run you over. You 
have to be ready to dodge. And I see that cops up there are as dumb as 
they are down here. Probably figured you were a substandard person 
because you couldn't afford a car.


I hate to say it but were their any skid marks? (old lawyer joke)

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



frank theriault wrote:


well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 





Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread frank theriault
On 10/6/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Frank ... I guess we have much different ideas about what's acceptable
> in a photo.

i guess...  

  I think you've caught a nice scene here but, for me, it's
> ruined by the tilt and the guy's head in the window that's cut off.

thanks for your thoughts and comment, shel.  i'd rather you be honest
and tell me what you think than lie and tell me you like it when you
don't.

cheers,
frank



--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)

2005-10-06 Thread cbwaters

well Dern.
Sorry ya'll, I didn't realize that was a registered member's only page :(
How about the source location:
http://www.mindspring.com/~d0cwh/pd1.JPG
http://www.mindspring.com/~d0cwh/pd3.JPG

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)



I received the following message:
"You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page."
On 10/6/05, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422408>> A local guy 
got boared with his Cannon so he strapped it to his Mini and> went 
driving.  A couple cool shots with a neat perspective.> Bummer about the 
mirror though...>> CW>>




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RE: PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Frank ... I guess we have much different ideas about what's acceptable
in a photo.  I think you've caught a nice scene here but, for me, it's
ruined by the tilt and the guy's head in the window that's cut off.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault 

> http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg




Re: News flash: Canadians not submissive!

2005-10-06 Thread frank theriault
On 10/6/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ;-)
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4317528.stm
> Enjoy!
>

what the &*%# are they talking about!?!



-frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I received the following message:
"You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page."
On 10/6/05, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422408>> A local guy got 
boared with his Cannon so he strapped it to his Mini and> went driving.  A 
couple cool shots with a neat perspective.> Bummer about the mirror though...>> 
CW>>



Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread frank theriault
On 10/6/05, Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone could be
> interested in subscribing
> http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg
>
> :-)
>


ROTFLMAO!!!

frank the 1 armed typist

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



OT: Driving shots (not mine)

2005-10-06 Thread cbwaters

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422408

A local guy got boared with his Cannon so he strapped it to his Mini and 
went driving.  A couple cool shots with a neat perspective.

Bummer about the mirror though...

CW



PAW/PESO: Loyalty

2005-10-06 Thread frank theriault
don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments 

http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg

apologies to bob sullivan 

-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



OT: matching shoulders

2005-10-06 Thread frank theriault
well, today started with a bang!

i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding
to work this morning.  ambulance took me to hospital,
and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone.  on
tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast.  hurt like
hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts
a lot.

bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast.
bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake
(which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at
fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim!

i'm okay, though;  shoulder should heal fine, but with
a really big bump.  i'll know how long when i go to
the fracture clinic in a few days.

i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her
insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work.  i'll
try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes.  think
i'll be off my bikes for a while.

i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be
seriously injured or dead.  road rash on my left cheek and ear, big
dent on my helmet right over the temple.  as it is, not even a
headache!

more details later when i can type with 2 hands .

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've had to try this a number of times in the past, and have never had 
>success doing it.
>The emulsion invairably was damaged worse than it would have been if I had 
>just left it alone.

Ah, the voice of experience. Just what I was looking for. (Not really
the *answer* I was looking for, but that's neither here nor there.)

>I advise scanning through the glass, or using your digital SLR as a copy 
>camera.

I've scanned one through the glass. I have three more and I expect
these, being too large for my flatbed, will get photographed on a copy
stand.
 
 
-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax F 28 2.8

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes
I must say my AF 28mm is the F, and I also have an M.  I have no  
complaints, and I think your excellent flower picture shows that these  
lenses are not exactly terrible!


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:24:10 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Fred wrote:


The F is actually a completely different lens from the FA, which is
unusual.  The comments on Stan's site suggest the FA is considerably
better than the F.



And the F 28/2. is the same as the A 28/2.8, which is not one of  
Pentax's

finest lenses.


Ah, I see. The M-A-F 28/2.8 share the same optics, the FA is a new  
design. I have an A28/2.8 ... It's not super sharp wide open, but  
sharpens up beautifully at f/4-5.6. I don't know that I would call it a  
poor performer: it does have beautiful OOF rendering, as well as great  
sharpness stopped down a little bit.


ISO 200 @ f/4 @ 1/20 sec:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/istds-firsttest2/image/rita-rd3-0139.jpg

ISO 200 @ f/5.6 @ 1/45 sec:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/istds-firsttest2/image/tigerlily- 
buds-0149.jpg


This was the first of the older lenses I bought for the DS and these are  
some of the very first photos I made with the camera. They're what  
convinced me that Pentax was worth my while to get involved with... :-)


Godfrey









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Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
If the photos are real silver prints, on real paper, (not RC paper) and 
they haven't been dry mounted take the glass out of the frame and soak 
them in distilled or deionized water over night, you should be able to 
remove them without damaging the surface of the print.  Dry them as if 
they were new prints. 



Mark Roberts wrote:


I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in contact
with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass. 


Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?


 




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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts"

Subject: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames



I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in contact
with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass.

Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?


I've had to try this a number of times in the past, and have never had 
success doing it.
The emulsion invairably was damaged worse than it would have been if I had 
just left it alone.
I advise scanning through the glass, or using your digital SLR as a copy 
camera.


William Robb




Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I can only imagine...  Now that was disturbing, on second thought I'd 
rather not.


Cotty wrote:


On 6/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-)

 


For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty.
   



Yeah but I have dreams.




Cheers,
 Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread Adam Maas

My bad, missed your brackets

-Adam


John Forbes wrote:

If an A lens is set off-A, in what circumstances will the picture NOT 
be  exposed at full aperture in any mode other than Manual?


I have to admit I'm a D owner, and the DS might be slightly different.

John

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:05:49 +0100, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


That's not exactly the case. They work like K/M lenses (Except for 
the  fact they alos can use Matrix Metering) when set to something 
other than  A.


-Adam


John Forbes wrote:

All lenses with an A setting on the aperture ring have to be used 
on  the A  setting (unless you are in Manual mode).  If you don't 
use the A  setting,  the picture will be exposed at full aperture.


John



On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:22:46 +0100, Shel Belinkoff   
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What kind of problems were you having using the A lenses of the A   
setting?

I've not encountered any ...

Shel


[Original Message]
From: John Forbes






 For a long time I was
using my A lenses off-A, and wondering why the results
were so bad.  You can do that on the PZ1-P, but not on
the DSLRs.



























Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Mishka
much better: he'll get to whine on pentax AND nikon lists.

best,
mishka

> > Thanks Herb. But why Nikon? Does it have the same upgrade path as Canon?
> >
> > Kostas



Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf
Soaking is the old way. You might try making a digital photo of it 
before soaking. At least that way you have something if the soaking 
doesn't work


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



Mark Roberts wrote:


I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in contact
with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass. 


Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?


 





News flash: Canadians not submissive!

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
;-)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4317528.stm
Enjoy!
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Try taking the batteries out for 24 hours.  If it doesn't get better 
then it may be a problem that needs warrantee

repair.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Well, my little DS with less than 700 exposures on started giving me
trouble last night.  Sometimes it won't fire, other times there's a lot of
shutter lag - 3 or more seconds.  I put in fresh bats and nothing has
changed.  Wassup with this?  Any functions or modes or features I should be
checking, or should I just chuck this temperamental pile of plastic and
wires and go back to using a real camera?


Shel 




 




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RE: PDML 10th anniversary

2005-10-06 Thread Evan Hanson
Let's see, I originally joined the list two jobs ago so it was most likely
96 maybe 97.  God that makes me feel old.


Evan




Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
... Unless you are in Manual mode and use them just as you would M/K- 
bayonet series lenses without the A position.


On Oct 6, 2005, at 3:57 PM, John Forbes wrote:

All lenses with an A setting on the aperture ring have to be used  
on the A setting (unless you are in Manual mode).  If you don't use  
the A setting, the picture will be exposed at full aperture.


John



On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:22:46 +0100, Shel Belinkoff  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



What kind of problems were you having using the A lenses of the A  
setting?

I've not encountered any ...

Shel



[Original Message]
From: John Forbes






 For a long time I was
using my A lenses off-A, and wondering why the results
were so bad.  You can do that on the PZ1-P, but not on
the DSLRs.













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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

Then he got quite a deal for his 50¢ American.

(Ducking and running for cover...)

Tom C wrote:


Well it was Canadian Dollars as well...

Tom C.






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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:57:29 +

> On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote:
>
> > Three grand is about what I paid for my istD.
> > I got a battery pack and cheap lens with it, but it was still 
three grand.


Bill, I have this bridge I want to show you. 










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Re: PESO: A B&W conversion attempt

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Yes, the original has a very slight color cast.

The rest, 'de gustibus non disputandem' applies. ;-) It was a quick  
edit anyway. I'm more interested that you can see the differences  
clearly. They're small.


Godfrey

On Oct 6, 2005, at 3:19 PM, John Forbes wrote:

I think some of the details, the eyes especially, look better in  
your version, but the hair and the jacket, IMO, look better in the  
original.  I still prefer the original overall, though it also  
seems to have a very slight colour cast, or is that my  
imagination?  Perhaps my left eye is bloodshot.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:13:41 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:46 AM, John Forbes wrote:



It's always interesting when people tweak other people's photos.
In this case I prefer the original; Godfrey's version seems much  
too bright, and it emphasises the slightly washed out  
highlights.  Perhaps I need to look at the calibration of my  
monitor.




I went to look at the two pictures together on the calibrated  
monitor again, just to be sure I didn't post the wrong file.  
Figured I'd run a composite ... this is a screen capture of the  
two photos, opened in the same browser, to which I added a  
histogram showing the pixel values on each of the images.


Original on the left, my edit on the right:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Hailey_BW-g-ss.jpg

You should be able to see that the two images' highlights are  
virtually identical, the work I did was to open up just shadow  
values. This is an sRGB tagged JPEG rendering so the differences  
should be clearly apparent if you use a browser that honors profiles.


Godfrey










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Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes
If an A lens is set off-A, in what circumstances will the picture NOT be  
exposed at full aperture in any mode other than Manual?


I have to admit I'm a D owner, and the DS might be slightly different.

John

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:05:49 +0100, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That's not exactly the case. They work like K/M lenses (Except for the  
fact they alos can use Matrix Metering) when set to something other than  
A.


-Adam


John Forbes wrote:

All lenses with an A setting on the aperture ring have to be used on  
the A  setting (unless you are in Manual mode).  If you don't use the A  
setting,  the picture will be exposed at full aperture.


John



On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:22:46 +0100, Shel Belinkoff   
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What kind of problems were you having using the A lenses of the A   
setting?

I've not encountered any ...

Shel


[Original Message]
From: John Forbes





 For a long time I was
using my A lenses off-A, and wondering why the results
were so bad.  You can do that on the PZ1-P, but not on
the DSLRs.






















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PESO:Intense!

2005-10-06 Thread Don Sanderson
Don't think I ever saw Beau look quite so intense.
Out playing with a Vivitar 28-105, very nice piece of glass.
Fuzzy brother in the foreground, Tomatoes in back. ;-)

http://www.donsauction.com/Pdml/Intense.htm

Don (Needed a break after work today, phew!)



Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C
Feeling rather bored and impish, I suggest to you a paint scraper.  Sorry, 
not much help.


What about holding the frame, photo side down, high above a steam source, 
tea kettle for instance and see if it can't be gently coaxed into releasing? 
 That's my second thought.


Tom C.





From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:04:00 +0100

I'd ask the client which was the least important, then soak it in water.   
Hopefully the emulsion will separate from the glass rather than the  paper. 
 If so, on with the rest.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:34:08 +0100, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in contact
with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass.

Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?





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Re: PESO: Sand Pile

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C

Ken,

I tend to agree that this one leaves me feeling non-commital or empty.  It 
is definitely very abstract.  I'm having a problem determining if it is a 
telephoto view of the dunes or a telephoto view of some of the ripples in 
the sandy creek bed that runs in front of them.


Was there numerous times as a child.

Tom C.





From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:02:13 +0100

Kenneth,

I usually adore your photographs, but I just haven't been able to form an  
opinion about this one.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it  
has the Waller trademark of being more than the sum of its considerable  
parts, but somehow I just haven't been able to relate to it.  I suspect I  
would like to see it ten feet wide on a wall somewhere to appreciate it  
properly.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:33:55 +0100, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Frank & Doug, thanks for commenting.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: "frank theriault"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile



On 10/3/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Check out -
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

Comment solicited,

what strikes you?

yea,

nay,

or indifferent

Thanks in advance for commenting.


 It doesn't look like a dune to me.  It doesn't really look like
anything but an abstract design, and that's even after being told what
it is.
 Sure as hell is cool, though.
 Yea!
 cheers,
frank
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Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
That's not exactly the case. They work like K/M lenses (Except for the 
fact they alos can use Matrix Metering) when set to something other than A.


-Adam


John Forbes wrote:

All lenses with an A setting on the aperture ring have to be used on 
the A  setting (unless you are in Manual mode).  If you don't use the 
A setting,  the picture will be exposed at full aperture.


John



On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:22:46 +0100, Shel Belinkoff  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What kind of problems were you having using the A lenses of the A  
setting?

I've not encountered any ...

Shel


[Original Message]
From: John Forbes





 For a long time I was
using my A lenses off-A, and wondering why the results
were so bad.  You can do that on the PZ1-P, but not on
the DSLRs.
















Re: Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes
I'd ask the client which was the least important, then soak it in water.   
Hopefully the emulsion will separate from the glass rather than the  
paper.  If so, on with the rest.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:34:08 +0100, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in contact
with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass.

Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?





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Re: PESO: Sand Pile

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes

Kenneth,

I usually adore your photographs, but I just haven't been able to form an  
opinion about this one.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it  
has the Waller trademark of being more than the sum of its considerable  
parts, but somehow I just haven't been able to relate to it.  I suspect I  
would like to see it ten feet wide on a wall somewhere to appreciate it  
properly.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:33:55 +0100, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Frank & Doug, thanks for commenting.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: "frank theriault"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile



On 10/3/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Check out -
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

Comment solicited,

what strikes you?

yea,

nay,

or indifferent

Thanks in advance for commenting.


 It doesn't look like a dune to me.  It doesn't really look like
anything but an abstract design, and that's even after being told what
it is.
 Sure as hell is cool, though.
 Yea!
 cheers,
frank
 --
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson











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Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes
All lenses with an A setting on the aperture ring have to be used on the A  
setting (unless you are in Manual mode).  If you don't use the A setting,  
the picture will be exposed at full aperture.


John



On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:22:46 +0100, Shel Belinkoff  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What kind of problems were you having using the A lenses of the A  
setting?

I've not encountered any ...

Shel


[Original Message]
From: John Forbes




 For a long time I was
using my A lenses off-A, and wondering why the results
were so bad.  You can do that on the PZ1-P, but not on
the DSLRs.











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Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller

Tom,
Kantishna is a little further west from Camp Denali.

Interesting, the link supplied doesn't even mention Eileson visitor center.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass



Thanks, that's good information.

Kantishna is as far as the buses go past Wonder Lake... More info:

http://www.nps.gov/dena/home/visitorinfo/bus/busmap.htm

Tom C.

BTW do you know where the buses turned around? Eileson visitor center used 
to be one of the turn around points (along with Wonder Lake)


Kenneth Waller

Taken this summer in Denali NP, Alaska.
*ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW
Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or muted tones...  but
putting it up for...
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626








Re: PESO: Sand Pile

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller

Frank & Doug, thanks for commenting.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile



On 10/3/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Check out -
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

Comment solicited,

what strikes you?

yea,

nay,

or indifferent

Thanks in advance for commenting.



It doesn't look like a dune to me.  It doesn't really look like
anything but an abstract design, and that's even after being told what
it is.

Sure as hell is cool, though.

Yea!

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Advice wanted: Photos stuck to glass in frames

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
I'm doing some photo restorations for a client and have been given
several photos that were mounted in frames for many years without the
benefit of a mat to prevent the photograph itself from coming in contact
with the glass. Now parts of the photo are stuck to the glass. I'd like
to be able to scan them without having to scan through the glass. 

Anyone have experience in removing photos in this condition? Is there
any hope?
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 6/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>> Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-)
>>
>>For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty.
>
>Yeah but I have dreams.

The rest of us are gonna have nightmares from the images conjured up in
this thread so far.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What kind of problems were you having using the A lenses of the A setting? 
I've not encountered any ... 

Shel

> [Original Message]
> From: John Forbes 


>  For a long time I was  
> using my A lenses off-A, and wondering why the results  
> were so bad.  You can do that on the PZ1-P, but not on 
> the DSLRs.




Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
"Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone could be 
>interested in subscribing
>http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg

Funny, there's no mention of cormorants anywhere.
Oh wait, wrong magazine...
 
 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO: A B&W conversion attempt

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes
I think some of the details, the eyes especially, look better in your  
version, but the hair and the jacket, IMO, look better in the original.  I  
still prefer the original overall, though it also seems to have a very  
slight colour cast, or is that my imagination?  Perhaps my left eye is  
bloodshot.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:13:41 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:46 AM, John Forbes wrote:


It's always interesting when people tweak other people's photos.
In this case I prefer the original; Godfrey's version seems much too  
bright, and it emphasises the slightly washed out highlights.  Perhaps  
I need to look at the calibration of my monitor.


I went to look at the two pictures together on the calibrated monitor  
again, just to be sure I didn't post the wrong file. Figured I'd run a  
composite ... this is a screen capture of the two photos, opened in the  
same browser, to which I added a histogram showing the pixel values on  
each of the images.


Original on the left, my edit on the right:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Hailey_BW-g-ss.jpg

You should be able to see that the two images' highlights are virtually  
identical, the work I did was to open up just shadow values. This is an  
sRGB tagged JPEG rendering so the differences should be clearly apparent  
if you use a browser that honors profiles.


Godfrey









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Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?

2005-10-06 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
> I'd like something like then when I *eventually* buy a G5 Tower. :-)
> Right now I have to wait until my wallet recovers from the printer 
> purchase.
> 
> Godfrey

Oh, yes, the printer. I'm having an R2400 too. Should arrive next Monday. 
Hope it's worth the price tag.

Krisjanis



Re: istDS Troubles

2005-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
When I used Bruce's D down in SJ, it became clear the focus indicator was
just a rough guide.  I'm really trying to ignore it when using MF glass ...
which is almost always. 

Shel


> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

> Just remember that the focus indication is adequate for f/4 or so,  
> not for f/1.4 ... :-)




Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Andre Langevin
The back element of the Pentax lens would have to "enter" inside the 
Nikon mount 1 mm, and could be hit by the mirror.  A non-auto Pentax 
tele lens could be grinded 1 mm and no element or mechanism would be 
near the mirror.


Minolta lenses are 1 mm away from Pentax, and the same can be done 
for a few of their lenses.


I have a Rokkor 250mm mirror lens on my desk, its mount taken out, 
waiting for a grinding session.  I need to make a grinding plate with 
a 39.Xmm hole in the center to gring the back "plate" of the lens, 
around a fixed element (protected by a 39mm back filter).  I had 
previously taken out the metal Minolta mount by unscrewing it from 
the inside of the back plate.


The grinding will give me about 0.7mm before I hit the screws that 
hold the back plate with the lens element.  It is enough as this lens 
focuses past infinity.


The internal diameter of the K mount adapter being just over 39mm, I 
will afterwards epoxy one on the back plate.I'll use the tiny 
250mm lens on the D...


The Rokkor 500mm miror lens (same as the Leitz one) can be used on a 
K mount camera without grinding because it is already focusing way 
past infinity (that could change with temperature but it works in 
summertime).  The lens has to be hold by hand on the K mount body... 
I'd like to put a K mount on it but, contrary to the 250mm, the metal 
mount cannot be easily taken out.  So I stopped the project...  But I 
have taken pics with it on the D!


Andre


On 6/10/05, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:


Sorry: still confused... To quote from your resource:

"For an adapter to slip in between the body and lens of differing 
manufacturers, the registration distance of the lens must be greater than 
the registration distance of the body"


In this case, the registration distance of the lens (45,46mm) is _smaller_ 
than that of the body (46,50mm). So it wouldn't work. I think. Or, I think 
I think...


Now you're getting me confused ;-)

For an adapter (without lens elements) to work, the register distance of
the body *must* be less than the register distance of the lens.

EOS register: 44mm
Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register: 46.50mm

Oh God.

You're right.

And so was I when I posted:

--

On 5/10/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:


 i wish i could mount the
Limiteds on the body and use them. Nikon doesn't have anything equivalent to
the 31 Limited.


Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.




Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

I'd like something like then when I *eventually* buy a G5 Tower. :-)
Right now I have to wait until my wallet recovers from the printer  
purchase.


Godfrey

On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

Seeing as Pentax is not delivering new cameras to buy I have  
ordered the

Sony 23" one. Will see how it works for photo editing next week.




Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Tried gin?

Jack

--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 6/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >> Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-)
> >> 
> >
> >For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty.
> 
> Yeah but I have dreams.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
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> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 
> 




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Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?

2005-10-06 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
Seeing as Pentax is not delivering new cameras to buy I have ordered the 
Sony 23" one. Will see how it works for photo editing next week.

Krisjanis

> Yes, the needs for still photography are significantly different than 
> the needs for 3D motion rendering... :-)
> 
> I use the Apple 20" Cinema Display built into an iMac 20" (G4 
> series). Superb screen, same as the stand-alone Cinema Display 20". 
> The iMac G5 20" is even better and makes for a fast, modest priced 
> workstation. Photoshop CS2 runs beautifully on either.
> 
> Godfrey



Re: 50 years of photojournalism

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 6, 2005, at 8:01 AM, E.R.N. Reed wrote:

I'm having trouble working out why I prefer PJ photos in black &   
white.  Does anyone else have this preference?


Apparently plenty of people (though I am not one.) A certain PJ  
friend of mine once expressed it to me as "sometimes color gets in  
the way." Does that resonate with you?


Yes. B&W forces me to see shape, form, light. It separates me further  
from the reality and into the language of the photograph. Color can  
be annoyingly real and difficult to distance oneself from. Sometimes  
you just can't see past the blood and into the emotion.


Godfrey



Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, the needs for still photography are significantly different than  
the needs for 3D motion rendering... :-)


I use the Apple 20" Cinema Display built into an iMac 20" (G4  
series). Superb screen, same as the stand-alone Cinema Display 20".  
The iMac G5 20" is even better and makes for a fast, modest priced  
workstation. Photoshop CS2 runs beautifully on either.


Godfrey


On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:


nothing beats a 23" Sony or a 20" Apple Cinema HD Display, eh?
games? what games?

Krisjanis



I'm interested in getting computer/monitor recommendations that are


aimed at


photo editing functions (e.g., "which flat-panel monitor is best for
photoshop?") rather than high-end game play (e.g., "which system  
gives

higher frame rates in Far Cry?").

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark








FS F50/1.7

2005-10-06 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Shows outside wear but glass is clean, clear, scratch-free.
AF works fine.

$150 shipped in US
PayPal.



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just be careful of security issues with PHP and other scripts.

Of course, security is the basis for all my code. The To: field
is always hard coded and never left to a variable.

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."



Re: Pentax F 28 2.8

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Fred wrote:


The F is actually a completely different lens from the FA, which is
unusual.  The comments on Stan's site suggest the FA is considerably
better than the F.



And the F 28/2. is the same as the A 28/2.8, which is not one of  
Pentax's

finest lenses.


Ah, I see. The M-A-F 28/2.8 share the same optics, the FA is a new  
design. I have an A28/2.8 ... It's not super sharp wide open, but  
sharpens up beautifully at f/4-5.6. I don't know that I would call it  
a poor performer: it does have beautiful OOF rendering, as well as  
great sharpness stopped down a little bit.


ISO 200 @ f/4 @ 1/20 sec:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/istds-firsttest2/image/rita-rd3-0139.jpg

ISO 200 @ f/5.6 @ 1/45 sec:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/istds-firsttest2/image/tigerlily- 
buds-0149.jpg


This was the first of the older lenses I bought for the DS and these  
are some of the very first photos I made with the camera. They're  
what convinced me that Pentax was worth my while to get involved  
with... :-)


Godfrey



Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?

2005-10-06 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
nothing beats a 23" Sony or a 20" Apple Cinema HD Display, eh?
games? what games?

Krisjanis

> I'm interested in getting computer/monitor recommendations that are 
aimed at 
> photo editing functions (e.g., "which flat-panel monitor is best for 
> photoshop?") rather than high-end game play (e.g., "which system gives 
> higher frame rates in Far Cry?"). 
> 
> Suggestions? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mark



Re: PESO: A B&W conversion attempt

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:46 AM, John Forbes wrote:


It's always interesting when people tweak other people's photos.
In this case I prefer the original; Godfrey's version seems much  
too bright, and it emphasises the slightly washed out highlights.   
Perhaps I need to look at the calibration of my monitor.


I went to look at the two pictures together on the calibrated monitor  
again, just to be sure I didn't post the wrong file. Figured I'd run  
a composite ... this is a screen capture of the two photos, opened in  
the same browser, to which I added a histogram showing the pixel  
values on each of the images.


Original on the left, my edit on the right:

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Hailey_BW-g-ss.jpg

You should be able to see that the two images' highlights are  
virtually identical, the work I did was to open up just shadow  
values. This is an sRGB tagged JPEG rendering so the differences  
should be clearly apparent if you use a browser that honors profiles.


Godfrey



OT: photo editing computer info sources?

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Erickson
All, 

I'm interested in getting computer/monitor recommendations that are aimed at 
photo editing functions (e.g., "which flat-panel monitor is best for 
photoshop?") rather than high-end game play (e.g., "which system gives 
higher frame rates in Far Cry?"). 

Suggestions? 

Thanks, 


Mark



Re: Pentax TimeLine

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 6, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:

There are two or three years, a member of PDML published two  
documents which I preserved:

"Pentax 35mm lens timeline"


A button on
  http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/
or
  http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf


and
"Pentax SLR timeline"
I don't find the author nor the address Web; who remembers ?


Never seen that one.

Godfrey



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf
Those types misuse words as a way of life. The problem exists only if 
you don't realize that and take their statements at face value..


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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Stephen Moore wrote:



Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote on 06.10.05 3:12:



Bah! What have the Romans ever done for us?
Well, besides the roads...



Education? Aqueducts? ;-)))



The enduring misuse of their word "decimate"
by American media types, politicians, and
assorted other scoundrels?  ;-)


Stephen






Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-)
>> 
>
>For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty.

Yeah but I have dreams.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Prude! 

Jack

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cotty" 
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:02 AM
> 
> 
> > 
> > Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-)
> > 
> 
> For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty.
> 
> William Robb
> 
> 




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FS friday: LF stuff

2005-10-06 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
Toyo Omega 45E +manual
Kodak Anastigmat 203
a pair of Lisco Regal film holders
the 6-exposure film cartridge, don't remember the name (all septums 
included)

Velvia, Astia, Provia and Agfa 100F (box each)

film goes half-price
the full camera outfit plus changing bag and other small stuff 700$ OBO

Krisjanis



FS friday: SMC-F 17-28 3.5-4.5 fisheye zoom

2005-10-06 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
KEH LN to EX+ (original box and everything, slight wear, perfect glass)
shipping from Latvia (EU) or from Los Angeles (a colleague of mine can 
take it there and then ship it or hand it over)

reserve price 250$
will consider all offers
buyer pays shipping

Krisjanis



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread wendy beard
On 10/6/05, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My web host (webstrikesolutions.com) gives me 1GB of space and 20GB of
> monthly transfer. I'm using I think 200MB or so of space.
>

I use webstrike to host my sites too. I have absolutely no complaints
about their service.
Had an e-mail yesterday to warn me I was using 1.2 Gb of space.
There's an option of buying more in 500Mb blocks, but I decided to
remove a few of last year's galleries instead.
The shopping cart I use is a template for BreezeBrowser. Most of my
sales are cheque or local pick-up but there is also the option to pay
using PayPal

Wendy

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Ottawa
Canada



Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X

2005-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
That's Nikon SOP. They get away with it because each country has a 
semi-independant distributor. Canon is a single company for most of the 
world, so they are generally forced to honor warantees from other countries.


-Adam


Michael Spivak wrote:

Hi Boris

You know that this is the official policy of the Israely Nikon
importer - the are taking gear bought ONLY directly from them or via
official distributors. if you get your gear from US (any shop like B&H
or adorama) - you are on your own there... you have to send it
yourself to the warranty in US or europe.

BTW, Canon in Israel does the same thing...

Michael.

On 10/6/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi!

This is probably more Israeli story than anything else. A husband of one
of co-workers from my previous company is rather serious photog. We met
him in the local zoo two days ago with his D2X and some rather big
200-400/4 Nikon zoom attached to it. He is working for the zoo,
actually, as a photog that is.

Some months ago I witnessed him shelling out order of $5,500 in local
currency for brand new D2X. Now, that we've met he told me 4 our of 11
AF zones do not work. I trust him to be good enough with his gear to be
able to say such a thing with reasonable certainty...

Now, seemingly Nikon has very strong presence in Israel. Yet, the
official dealer from whom he bought the darn thing, refuses to take the
camera to the repairs under warranty.

I am very unamused, and I can only try to imagine how this poor fellow
feels.

Just a story, a bit of anecdotal evidence, a curiosity, yet I thought
I'd share it with the list... I think it all boils down to quality
control which apparently can never be too good.

Boris






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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




> Three grand is about what I paid for my istD.
> I got a battery pack and cheap lens with it, but it was still three 
> grand.


Bill, I have this bridge I want to show you. 



The price one pays for early adaptation. I bought my istD 15 minutes after 
they became locally available.


William Robb 





Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:02 AM





Apologies, I'm too exposed to Mr Robb ;-)



For the record, I have never exposed myself to Cotty.

William Robb



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