Re: PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions

[Igor Roshchin]

Nice shot, Jay!

Nicely caught tension a second before the service.
Not a very good (from the game point of view) pose of the
player on the left, and slight behind.
It is also strange that she is looking in a direction different
from where the other 3 players are looking, i.e. probaby not
at the person serving the ball. 

Igor

PS. Speaking of volleyball shots.
There was one shot from volleyball that facinated me long time ago:
a man-player digging a ball out while flying straight forward, 
parallel to the ground. That was such a clean dive, so nicely shot...


Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:26:06 -0800
Jay Taylor wrote:
> 
> Congratulations to the University of Washington women's volleyball 
> team in capturing the Division 1 national championship today. They 
> remained unbeaten throughout the entire tournament and swept the No. 1 
> ranked Nerbraska Cornhuskers in three straight games today. Managed to 
> snap a few photos of the team earlier in the season with my then new 
> FA 80-200 F/2.8 and the *istDS. 
> 
> Comments and critique welcome as usual. Thanks for looking.
> JayT
> 
> http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/53671110.UW.jpg
> 
> Handheld 1/750s f/4.0 at 170.0mm iso1600 

Re: PESO - Dare to be different

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks, Dave.  Yes it is oak.

-- 
Bruce


Saturday, December 17, 2005, 9:08:32 AM, you wrote:

bcin> Very nice.
bcin> The picture has a real "flow" to it.Nice curves and
bcin> straight lines compliment each other.

bcin> Nice break with the centre leave.

bcin> Oak is it not.?

bcin> Dave Brooks   

>> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bruce
>> 

PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions

[Jay Taylor]

Congratulations to the University  of Washington women's volleyball 
team in capturing the Division 1 national championship today. They 
remained unbeaten throughout the entire tournament and swept the No. 1 
ranked Nerbraska Cornhuskers in three straight games today.
Managed to snap a few photos of the team earlier in the season with my 
then new FA 80-200 F/2.8 and the *istDS.

Comments and critique welcome as usual. Thanks for looking.
JayT

http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/53671110.UW.jpg

Handheld 1/750s f/4.0 at 170.0mm iso1600 

Re: Another black and white conversion

[Derby Chang]

 


This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html

William Robb

   



Liked the first one, like this one even better. The word "lubricious" 
comes to mind.


D

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Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[Derby Chang]

Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.

I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
eyes"...  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.




Fun photo. It's no wonder the Empire lost most of her colonies - those 
pom-poms must have been easy targets.


D

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Re: istDS v istDS2

[Adam Maas]

Nope, I mean AF-S, the Nikon USM equivalent. Any ring-type AF-S lens 
also offers full time manual focus (the only two Nikon micro-motor AF-S 
lenses are the 18-55 DX and 55-200 DX)


-Adam


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

You mean "EF-S" rather than "AF-S".  Yes, Adam, I'm aware of the  
differences between various types of Canon lenses. I have several of  
them, after all. ;-)


I await the D-FA versions of the Pentax 35/2 AL, 50/1.4 and 77/1.8.

Godfrey

On Dec 17, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

Godfrey, all ring type USM or AF-S lenses have this feature. The  
only other lenses that do are the Pentax ones and the Canon 50mm  
f1.4 USM which is the only micro-motor USM lens to be clutched  
(Pentax uses the same trick to get the feature). It's very useful,  
and I badly miss it on my Tamron 28-75.


-Adam


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I think you are describing the QuickShift feature of the DA and D- 
FA  lenses, Patrice. Has nothing to do with the DS2. DA lenses on  
the DS  and D act the same way. It usually does NOT work in AF- 
Continuous  mode, however, as the body/lens is supposed to be  
focusing  continuously. It's designed to work in AF-Single Shot  
mode ... lock  in the focus on the half press, fine-tune focus  with 
the focus ring.


Canon's USM lenses have this feature and call it "full time  manual  
focus". It's an excellent feature.


Godfrey

Re: AA bis

[Ann Sanfedele]

David Mann wrote:
> 
> On Dec 17, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> > What I like to remember is that moon over Hernadez
> > New Mexico was essentially a grab shot :)
> 
> I never liked that photo... until I saw one of AA's real prints of
> it.  It is incredible.
> 
> - Dave

I saw it for the first time in the Museum of
MOdern Art - one of his
prints, for sure. I liked the story about his
taking it, too - which I heard
maybe 30 years later.

ann

GESO: eyes wide open - learning to use the 15mm

[Derby Chang]

I find the 15mm/3.5 really hard to use. Not that it isn't a great lens, 
which it undoubtedly is. But I find it hard to get a composition that 
interests me. Keeping the background undistracting is a task. And I even 
find it tricky to see exactly what is in focus. I've had the lens for a 
few months now, and have only managed to get a handful of shots that I 
like.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index5/05_12_15mm/index.htm

Will persist.

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Re: Bill Owens update

[Ann Sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> I don't know that it would be appropriate to post it to the list, but if
> anyone wants to send Bill a card I'll give you his address in a private
> email.
> 
> 
> --
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com

Mark - yes send the address please -

ann

Re: istDS v istDS2

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

You mean "EF-S" rather than "AF-S".  Yes, Adam, I'm aware of the  
differences between various types of Canon lenses. I have several of  
them, after all. ;-)


I await the D-FA versions of the Pentax 35/2 AL, 50/1.4 and 77/1.8.

Godfrey

On Dec 17, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

Godfrey, all ring type USM or AF-S lenses have this feature. The  
only other lenses that do are the Pentax ones and the Canon 50mm  
f1.4 USM which is the only micro-motor USM lens to be clutched  
(Pentax uses the same trick to get the feature). It's very useful,  
and I badly miss it on my Tamron 28-75.


-Adam


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I think you are describing the QuickShift feature of the DA and D- 
FA  lenses, Patrice. Has nothing to do with the DS2. DA lenses on  
the DS  and D act the same way. It usually does NOT work in AF- 
Continuous  mode, however, as the body/lens is supposed to be  
focusing  continuously. It's designed to work in AF-Single Shot  
mode ... lock  in the focus on the half press, fine-tune focus  
with the focus ring.


Canon's USM lenses have this feature and call it "full time  
manual  focus". It's an excellent feature.


Godfrey

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[P. J. Alling]

Leave it to a programmer to notice repeating patterns...

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!


Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.

I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
eyes"...  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.



Frank, the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th men have mustache... The 2nd, 4th, 
and 6th don't... It seems the 8th does not have one either. Is it some 
kind of peculiar British joke? Or is it Canadian?


The expression on the face of the 2nd man is hilarious.

The 3rd man from the left and the 3rd man from the right wear 
glasses... The fact that one pair of the glasses is sun and the other 
is just vision makes it nice touch of anti-symmetry.


Julia is Rolling On The Floor Laffing.

I am about to join her...

Frank, this is definitely one of the best photographs you presented 
here. And no, I have no clue which man is hiding the watch Her Majesty 
the Queen presented to the regimen ;-).


Boris





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.

I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
eyes"...  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.


Frank, the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th men have mustache... The 2nd, 4th, and 
6th don't... It seems the 8th does not have one either. Is it some kind 
of peculiar British joke? Or is it Canadian?


The expression on the face of the 2nd man is hilarious.

The 3rd man from the left and the 3rd man from the right wear glasses... 
The fact that one pair of the glasses is sun and the other is just 
vision makes it nice touch of anti-symmetry.


Julia is Rolling On The Floor Laffing.

I am about to join her...

Frank, this is definitely one of the best photographs you presented 
here. And no, I have no clue which man is hiding the watch Her Majesty 
the Queen presented to the regimen ;-).


Boris

Re: GESO - Honey... I Had an Accident at Work

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Boy, that could ruin your whole day.


Ken, what about "whole life"?

Tom, you just gave me totally different perspective on rather benign 
expression... "Whoopsadaisy" indeed.


Boris

Re: Pentax Stock Sale

[Mark Erickson]

Sometimes purchases like this are a good thing.  For example, the Texas
Pacific Group, a private investment firm, purchased a large stake in Ducati
back in 1996.  Ducati used the money as working capital and TPG got them to
tighten up their operation, improve their quality control, and get back on
their feet.

We're on (or maybe just past) the cusp of a big shift from film to digital.
Pentax is a player, so maybe these guys see opportunity.  Or maybe they're
hoping to turn a quick buck by selling Pentax to Samsung.  We'll see

--Mark

>Joe,
>Most corporations that have somebody else buy 20% of their stock start
>looking over their shoulders at what the investor has in mind.  Are
>they buying to force the company to split up or merge with another
>corporation?  But I know nothing about Japanese corporate culture...
>Regards,  Bob S.
>
>On 12/17/05, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=16312496
>>
>> Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can
>> tell us what this means.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Studdert"

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion





Next time, I think I'll write down the procedure.


If you have the Photoshop history log enabled (Preferences >General > 
History

Log) you can always retrace the edit stream for any image.


I bet that can get to be one honkin big text file.
Thanks for the tip.

William Robb 

Re: GFM contest question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Re: GFM contest question




I did that in  2004 and got a speeding ticket (GFM to Boone). Got to watch
out for those country cops, they're not total hicks.


I flew in to Charlotte airport, having reserved a little tin canmobile for 
the drive to GFM.
They pulled the old bait and switch, and for a mere $10.00 per day extra, 
they upgraded me to a small sport ute, on the premise it would have more 
power in the mountains.
I'm not built size small, so I wasn't complaining about the extra size 
anyway.
The instructions Bill Owens sent me for getting to GFM had me taking a 
couple of traffic congested freeways out to the interstate.
Anyway, as soon as I was in clear traffic, I sped up to what is highway 
speed, according to what I am used to seeing on a speedometer.
We drive a 110 on the highways around here, and I was cursing this bloody 
GMC because it wouldn't do more than 95.
I figured it out after passing half a dozen cars and getting "the look" from 
each driver.


William Robb

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/17/2005 5:07:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.

cheers,
frank
===
Nice photo. Actually, my reaction is, doesn't that idiot third from the right 
realize they didn't have raybans back then? Ruins the whole look. ;-)

I am weird sometimes.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: Bill Owens update

[Joseph Tainter]

Mark, thanks for letting us know.

Joe

Re: GFM contest question

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/17/2005 6:30:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> From: "Ann Sanfedele"
> Subject: Re: GFM contest question
> 
> > graywolf wrote:
> >>
> >> Correction 46 minutes to Boone, 1 hour to Johnson City, 2 hours to
> >> Asheville (according to my map software).
> >
> > Unless you are driving with Wheatfield - then it's
> > 20 min to Boone,
> > 30 min to Johnson Cityetc :)
===
I did that in  2004 and got a speeding ticket (GFM to Boone). Got to watch 
out for those country cops, they're not total hicks.

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: Pentax Stock Sale

[Bob Sullivan]

Joe,
Most corporations that have somebody else buy 20% of their stock start
looking over their shoulders at what the investor has in mind.  Are
they buying to force the company to split up or merge with another
corporation?  But I know nothing about Japanese corporate culture...
Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/17/05, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=16312496
>
> Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can
> tell us what this means.
>
> Joe
>
>

Re: Pentax Stock Sale

[Tom Reese]

> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=16312496
> 
> Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can 
> tell us what this means.

What I've learned about corporate stuff is that there are a hell of a lot of 
liars in corporations. I do know that the stock has been doing pretty well 
lately.

Go here:

http://www.tse.or.jp/english/index.shtml

then enter Pentax in the little box on the left side.

then click on the Pentax Corp link.

The stock run-up might be due to the fact that SPARX is buying it up. SPARX may 
have done so because they knew that Samsung was going to get involved.

The SPARX website is here:

http://www.tse.or.jp/english/index.shtml

It could be a good sign. They don't seem to be a corporate raider type 
enterprise.

Tom Reese

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[Unca Mikey]

I love it!  There's something hilariously pathetic (pathetically 
hilarious?) about old f*rts reliving moments of imagined  military 
glory.


The guy second from left, staring at you, looks like Robert Benigni 
-- I expect him to break out in zaniness at any moment.


*>UncaMikey

FS: 100mm SMC F 1:2.8 Macro $300

[Hernán Mouro]

I have a  100mm SMC F 1:2.8 Macro for sale. I bought it from a member of the
list in 2001. In fact, I found the original message from Stan Halpin
offering it:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg20022.html

The lens is still in very good condition, it is the best lens I ever had by
far (I haven't had many lenses, though!). In the message by Stan you can see
it came from a lab and that "there are three visible indentations in the
outside of the filter ring. Does NOT hurt the ability to screw on a hood or
filter". I have no experience as to be able to judge its condition, but Stan
said "aperture, lens surfaces, external cosmetics all in EXC or EXC+" and it
keeps working great.

I'm selling it to rise the money for a DSLR, I've already sold my 35mm, and
. I'm asking the same I payed for it: $300 (+ shipping).

I hope someone will enjoy this lens as much as I did. Best wishes,

Hernan Mouro
Davis, CA.

Re: Bill Owens update

[Mark Roberts]

I don't know that it would be appropriate to post it to the list, but if
anyone wants to send Bill a card I'll give you his address in a private
email.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: GFM contest question

[Ann Sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele"
> Subject: Re: GFM contest question
> 
> > graywolf wrote:
> >>
> >> Correction 46 minutes to Boone, 1 hour to Johnson City, 2 hours to
> >> Asheville (according to my map software).
> >
> > Unless you are driving with Wheatfield - then it's
> > 20 min to Boone,
> > 30 min to Johnson Cityetc :)
> >
> > ann of the white knuckles
> 
> Not my fault your speedometers have wonky dials on them..
> 
> William Robb

and you thought it was flat too :)

actually - you do have an excuse... it is Roberts
who is really the scary one -
he knows the roads :)

a

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[P. J. Alling]

The head gear looks to be later than the War of 1812 Shakos, looks more 
like the headgear worn between the Mexican American War and the US Civil 
war. 


frank theriault wrote:


Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.

I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
eyes"...  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Bill Owens update

[John Coyle]

Sorry to hear Bill is not progressing as hoped - my best wishes to him if he 
can get to read this.  I've never met him, but have heard that he is one of 
the good guys.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia 

Re: Home Renovation web page

[John Coyle]

That looks great Cotty - is there a working farm behind it?
Not too big a move from where you are now by the looks of it.
I'll look forward to bludging on you next time I come to England!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:34 AM
Subject: Home Renovation web page



I'll only post this once, in case anyone's the slightest bit interested.
Exciting Pentax content: some of the pics will be by Pentax SMC lenses,
so there.

We're buying a house, and I'm keeping an online diary for friends and
relatives.



Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and froody now ;-)




Cheers,
 Cotty


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Pentax Stock Sale

[Joseph Tainter]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=16312496

Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can 
tell us what this means.


Joe

Re: Photoshop measure tool

[Rob Studdert]

On 18 Dec 2005 at 8:03, Derby Chang wrote:

> In Photoshop, I use the measure tool all the time to straighten out 
> scans. Is there any way to make it stay as the default in the Tools 
> palette, instead of defaulting to the eyedropper? Other tools seem to 
> stay at the last tool used.

Not in CS as far as I'm aware, rather anoying isn't it.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[frank theriault]

On 12/17/05, Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What era redcoats are they?  Can't be American Revolution era.  Maybe War of
> 1812?  Maybe that rebellion in one of the Canadian provinces.
>

Well, the "whites of their eyes" thing was just a joke (had to say
something about those sunglasses, which would be inappropriate and
inaccurate for whatever era they're from).

Anyway, Jim, I don't know for sure what era they're from, but I'd
think War of 1812 would be much more likely than War of Independance. 
The photo was taken near Kingston, Ontario (which has a Canadian Armed
Forces base, BTW), and the War of 1812 would have played a large part
in the history of that area of Canada;  much more so that the War of
Independance.  Kingston is steeped in military history, and several
War of 1812 battles were fought in the vicinity.

This group was marching in the Christmas parade in the Town of
Gananoque, about 20 miles down the road.

cheers,
frank


--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[Jack Davis]

Frank, I like it too.
Found it interesting to examine each figure. The one hiding the "whites
of his eyes" is also showing his individualism by wearing gloves. 
Obviously, having included all of the one/half guy on the far end would
have improved the compositional balance and given us one more figure to
study.


Jack

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.
> 
> I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
> were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of
> their
> eyes"...  
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg
> 
> I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
> trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
> parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
> had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
> appreciated.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


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Re: Santa's Coming

[Joseph Tainter]

I've talked to the folks at Kirk Photo a couple of times. They are very 
helpful and answer questions honestly. They're not some huge 
conglomerate looking to sell you stuff: it's a small, specialist outfit 
that care about the customers and the products.


--

I don't doubt this. The questions I asked, though, would have been easy 
to answer by e-mail. I was put off that they wouldn't.


Joe

Re: Belated PUG comments

[Joseph Tainter]

My favorites:

"Mass at St. Eustache" by Joseph Tainter:  the
composition is beautiful--it shows off the
architecture while also subtly showing the action.
I'm a sucker for cathedrals, too.

--

Thanks, Rick.

Joe

Re: Another black and white conversion

[Rob Studdert]

On 17 Dec 2005 at 17:38, William Robb wrote:
 
> Next time, I think I'll write down the procedure.

If you have the Photoshop history log enabled (Preferences >General > History 
Log) you can always retrace the edit stream for any image.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain

[Joseph Tainter]

Segovia is wonderful, is it not?

Some nice shots, Igor. Thanks for sharing them.

Joe

Re: PAW: Redcoats!

[Jim Apilado]

What era redcoats are they?  Can't be American Revolution era.  Maybe War of
1812?  Maybe that rebellion in one of the Canadian provinces.

Jim A.

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:05:33 -0500
> To: PDML 
> Subject: PAW: Redcoats!
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:05:35 -0500
> 
> Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.
> 
> I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
> were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
> eyes"...  
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg
> 
> I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
> trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
> parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
> had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
> appreciated.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 

Re: Dear Santa

[Gautam Sarup]

No more list here.  Santa's (that's right, Santa and not the holiday
gift-person)
been.  He brought a nice Tilt-shift lens and the PZ-1p has already made friends
with it.  Tomorrow I'll introduce it to the MZ-S.

Cheers,
Gautam

On 12/9/05, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Santa:
>
> I have been a very good boy this year. I always ate my vegetables, and
> I even cleaned my room. Please leave me one or more of the following
> this year:
>
> 1. *istDS2. No need for the kit lens, just the body please.
> 2. 2GB SD cards. Two of them, please.
> 3. FA31/1.8 Limited. I've been VERY good.
> 4. Manfrotto carbon fiber tripod. Or a gym membership so I can carry my 
> Tiltall.
> 5. Zenitar 16mm fisheye lens.
> 6. Peace on earth, and good will to men.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mat Maessen
>
>
> (hey, I can dream, can't I?)
>
>

Re: Anyone tried different focus screen on digital?

[P. J. Alling]

At $105 or $140, (plus $40 if you want the metering pattern), I think 
I'll suffer through manual focusing with out focusing aids.  At least 
for now.


Powell Hargrave wrote:


They don't have a set for Pentax yet,
   



YES THEY DO! as of today.


 


http://www.keoptics.com/
   




 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PESO - Fractal Frost

[P. J. Alling]

Nice, it makes a good abstract, my only question is what happened to the 
bear.


Kenneth Waller wrote:


Good eye Tom. I like it.
You chose the right patch to capture.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Fractal Frost



Shiver...

Taken this morning.  *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro.  Shooting up 
through the tops of some Aspen branches.  ISO 200, 1/250, f/14.


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235

Tom C.








--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: PESO - Fractal Frost

[frank theriault]

On 12/17/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shiver...
>
> Taken this morning.  *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro.  Shooting up through the
> tops of some Aspen branches.  ISO 200, 1/250, f/14.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235
>

Great shot!

-frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: PAW: Redcoats!

[Tom C]

An enjoyabe shot... I'll have more to say on it later. :-)

Tom C.





From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: PDML 
Subject: PAW: Redcoats!
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:05:33 -0500

Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.

I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
eyes"...  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: On the Subject of Chins...

[frank theriault]

On 12/17/05, Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 09:27 AM 12/17/2005, Bob Shell wrote:
>
>
> >On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Glen wrote:
> >
> >>What could I have done as a photographer to make her jaw less
> >>prominent, and make her look more idealistic?
> >
> >
> >There isn't much you can do for a chin such as hers if you want to do
> >a shot like you did.  Shooting down at the model from a high angle
> >would help to de-emphasize her chin, but it wouldn't work for that
> >photo.  About all you can do for that photo is to get a different model.
> >
> >Bob
>
> That's what I thought. Personally, I don't find the chin to be distracting
> in the levitation image. I think the models who criticized it were either
> being a bit shallow or artistically short-sighted. Not all good images are
> based on depictions of idealized beauty. For that image, I think the model
> worked out well enough.
>
> Still, I didn't think it would hurt to ask if I could have done anything
> differently, to have pleased everyone a bit better. So, I posted my
> question to this list.
>
> Wait... What was I thinking?!
>
> THAT'S what I was really doing wrong!
>
> I was hoping to please everyone!:)
>
> Never mind... Problem solved.   :)
>
> Thanks, Bob!
>

Now that I think of it, maybe there is something you could try.  If
you could get Jay Leno in the same frame as her...

cheers,
frank



--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO - Fractal Frost

[P. J. Alling]

Looks cold and white on my monitor, how'd you get that polar bear to 
stay so still in the blizzard?


Tom C wrote:


Shiver...

Taken this morning.  *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro.  Shooting up 
through the tops of some Aspen branches.  ISO 200, 1/250, f/14.


Tom C.






--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Bill Owens update

[frank theriault]

On 12/16/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just got word that "PDML Central" proprietor Bill Owens isn't doing very
> well and is headed back to the hospital for more surgery. Apparently his
> cancer has spread to his bones. I don't have details and this
> information has been filtered through at least a couple of
> non-medical-professionals in its way to me, but my in-house pathologist
> says that bone tumors are typical metastases of prostate cancer so it's
> credible in that regard. They won't be doing surgery for the bone stuff
> so I have no idea exactly what's going on...
> Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I thought his friends on the list
> should know. Keep Bill in your thoughts. He's one of the good guys.
>

Thinking of you, Bill.  We're all pulling for you.

cheers,k
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Grand Canyon

[frank theriault]

On 12/17/05, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Is that the one with the revolving restaurant?  Someone took me to
> dinner there one time.  I found the view really nice, but the food
> only average.
>

I've never eaten there, but yes, the restaurant does revolve, and yes,
(apparently) the food's only average.  I guess you're paying for the
view.

-frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

PAW: Redcoats!

[frank theriault]

Alternate title:  The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming.

I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen
were told to hold their fire "until they could see the whites of their
eyes"...  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690&size=lg

I actually like this one quite a bit.  I think these guys started out
trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of
parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada
had been surprisingly grueling .  Your comments are always
appreciated.

cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Home Renovation web page

[graywolf]

Looks like more fun than I could handle. I mean turning a defunct 
jewler's lathe into a nice display is almost more than I can handle. BTW 
it dates from Oct 16, 1892 (how's that for accurate dating),  so it is 
not as old as your house.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



Cotty wrote:


I'll only post this once, in case anyone's the slightest bit interested.
Exciting Pentax content: some of the pics will be by Pentax SMC lenses,
so there.

We're buying a house, and I'm keeping an online diary for friends and
relatives.



Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and froody now ;-)




Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_



 

Re: istDS v istDS2

[Adam Maas]

Godfrey, all ring type USM or AF-S lenses have this feature. The only 
other lenses that do are the Pentax ones and the Canon 50mm f1.4 USM 
which is the only micro-motor USM lens to be clutched (Pentax uses the 
same trick to get the feature). It's very useful, and I badly miss it on 
my Tamron 28-75.


-Adam


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I think you are describing the QuickShift feature of the DA and D-FA  
lenses, Patrice. Has nothing to do with the DS2. DA lenses on the DS  
and D act the same way. It usually does NOT work in AF-Continuous  
mode, however, as the body/lens is supposed to be focusing  
continuously. It's designed to work in AF-Single Shot mode ... lock  
in the focus on the half press, fine-tune focus with the focus ring.


Canon's USM lenses have this feature and call it "full time manual  
focus". It's an excellent feature.


Godfrey

Re: Another black and white conversion

[Paul Stenquist]

On Dec 17, 2005, at 6:41 PM, William Robb wrote:

 There is shadow detail in the print that doesn't show on my monitor.



Great. Then you've nailed it. I'm not surprised to hear that you've 
been able to capture more range on paper. And that, of course, is the 
ultimate goal.

Paul

Re: GFM contest question

[graywolf]

HAR!

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



Ann Sanfedele wrote:


graywolf wrote:
 


Correction 46 minutes to Boone, 1 hour to Johnson City, 2 hours to
Asheville (according to my map software). 
   



Unless you are driving with Wheatfield - then it's
20 min to Boone,
30 min to Johnson Cityetc :)

ann of the white knuckles


 

Re: PESO - Dare to be different

[Ann Sanfedele]

Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> Bruce,
> Did you try a touch of focused sharpening?
> Actually, that bit of softness at that location doesn't bother me that
> much and I don't think I'd care for the result if the offending leaf
> were removed. ...
I haven't tried it, however.
> 
> Jack

I agree - I think the shot is perfectly composed
and I didn't even notice that
the leaf on the right was OOF until someone said
so... your eye is drawn to the
golden one in the center.

ann

Re: Bill Owens update

[graywolf]

Well, I am not going to wish him well. Seems like every time I do he 
gets worse. Maybe not doing so will help.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:10:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This is generally very bad news indeed.
==
What he said. 


I was very saddened to read Mark's message last night.

When I was at GFM in 2004, Bill was a great host. Made me feel very welcome 
and also helped me with a problem. Basically that year he fulfilled the host 
role to a T -- not too many people really know how to do that.


Marnie aka Doe 



 

Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???

[Ann Sanfedele]

Glen wrote:
> 

> I don't consider what I do to be "chimping", as defined by that very fun
> little video clip. As for the other photographer, I saw some of his shots
> later. I think he should have checked his LCD more often.  ;)
> 
> take care,
> Glen
> 

I thought/think the term has come to mean simply
checking the shots you
just took in the field... we had a discussion a
while back on the list about
who chimped and who didn't (at which time I asked
your question - though I
kinda got the idea from a couple of things that
were said)

I think it is a cute phrase and goes nicely with
"monkeying around" :)

ann

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christian"

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion




She's gorgeous and you did a great job showing her off.


Thanks Christian
b..

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Powell Hargrave"

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion


Think you nailed it Bill.  Now can you -produce- all those tones in a 
print?

Like the picture too. :)


I took a file of it to work this morning, the print looks better than the 
monitor image. There is shadow detail in the print that doesn't show on my 
monitor.


William Robb 

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty"

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion



On 16/12/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:


This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html


FWIW from me, I love it except for the fabric of the shirt. A bare
shoulder, or no shoulder at all would be my preference. She's gorgeous,
and all credit to you for bringing that out.


Thanks Cotty. I'll work on getting her out of her clothes just for you.

William Robb 

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Pål Jensen"

Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)







Getting past the prose was always my problem.



I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first
language...


I don't think it was his either. :-)

William Robb

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"

Subject: RE: Another black and white conversion


It's great exceptfor that thing on her nose.  Have yiu cleaned your sensor 
lately?


HAR!! Just for you, I think I'll put a fake starburst coming from it..
b... 

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From:

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion



 > This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what
you think.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html



I like this one Bill. Nice tones.


Thanks Dave.
bill

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist"

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion


I like the way you've tamed the highlights, but some shadow detail has 
been lost. Most noticeably in the hair on the near side. But the skin 
tones are better than the earlier version. I don't have the other for 
comparison, but have you softened the skin detail as well?


I did lots to the skin tones. I started with four layers, one got Neat 
Imaged, one got curves adjusted, one I did a bit of Gaussian blur and one 
got left pretty much alone, but was the base for the healing brush and other 
retouching.

This was after I did a Channel Mixer conversion to monochrome.
Then I blended them until they looked as right as I could get.

Next time, I think I'll write down the procedure.

William Robb

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" 
Subject: RE: Another black and white conversion




What Godfrey said ...


Thanks Shel
b

Re: Another black and white conversion

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"

Subject: Re: Another black and white conversion







http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html


Now that's looking quite nice. The skin tones are delightful. I think  you 
lost a little bit on the hair on the right, and the shoulder on  the left 
is a touch hot/distracting, but overall this is a much nicer  rendering 
than some of the first tests you were doing.


Thanks Godfrey.
I did a clean up on the eyes and took it to work this morning and ran a test 
print. Tn the print, detail in the hair that is not visible on my monitor 
does show up, which pleased me greatly. The white top is pretty white but 
isn't fried in the print.
I did try to bring out detail in the hair on the monitor, but I managed to 
turn the image muddy in the process.

Now I wish I could remember what I did...

William Robb

Re: AA bis

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Pål Jensen"

Subject: Re: AA bis





I know it will be different. Learning THAT could easily be achieved by 
trying to reshoot one of you own (successful) images. You will learn much 
more from that. Learning technique could be easily learned by not copying 
someone elses creativity.


Out of curiosity, how does one master technique without trying to emulate a 
known benchmark?


This is about the creative aspect of creating an image. You'll never be 
more than a mediocre photographer by blatantly copying someone elses work.


What if a very good photographer happenned to decide, on a lark, to try to 
emulate one of the works of one of the masters?

Is he no longer a very good photographer?
You are treating this as if this is the only picture these people have shot 
(the ones that were the subject of this discussion originally). You don't 
know jack squat about the work this group of photographers has done in the 
past, instead you judge them as creative photographers soley on what is, at 
best, a form of going to church.

That hardy seems fair.

William Robb

Re: GFM contest question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 
Subject: Re: GFM contest question




graywolf wrote:


Correction 46 minutes to Boone, 1 hour to Johnson City, 2 hours to
Asheville (according to my map software). 


Unless you are driving with Wheatfield - then it's
20 min to Boone,
30 min to Johnson Cityetc :)

ann of the white knuckles


Not my fault your speedometers have wonky dials on them..

William Robb

Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas






I wouldn't mind meeting some nice young bays.


Just don't fly Quantas...
WW

Re: AA bis

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Pål Jensen"

Subject: Re: AA bis




Well I was discussing the creative aspect of the image making process that 
do indeed end when pressing the shutter release. Litterally millions have 
adopted the zone system without treading in Mr. Adams tripod holes.




If you think it's as easy as that, I have some contempt to share with you.

William Robb 

Re: Home Renovation web page

[Cotty]

On 17/12/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nice page, Cotty, and congratulations!  Looked it up
>in my UK road atlas; it looks like a great location,
>as long as you're not under an approach path to Brize
>Norton! (is it still operating?).

Actually it's not the approach path to Brize that's the problem - it's
take-off. We're off to the side in a dip. The noisiest aircraft type
here are old VC-10 converted tankers and they are horrible on full chat.
Fortunately there's not many of them and they come and go occasionally.
Others are Tri-Stars, C-17s and Fat Albert. It can be a busy base, but
only when NATO are up to no good!

Generally quiet though. Maybe that's because they're re-surfacing the
runway ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

[Ann Sanfedele]

Thanks Jack - The date tells me why I missed this
news
I wasn't on list and I was driving 500 miles a day
- an unusual thing for me...
and the news on the car radio was minimal.

I also missed how he got in to a discussion here
this week :)

ann

Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> Aug. 11, '02. (Born in 1940) Killed, along with his wife, Barbara and
> two other passengers (I believe) in a plane crash that happened on
> landing approach to the Bishop, CA airport.
> In this case, his wife was not piloting the plane which was returning
> from an Alaskan shoot.
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:47:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > I read Rowell all the time back in the day when I
> > got photo mags.
> >
> > ann sad
> > ===
> > Uh, ann, a couple of years ago.
> >
> > I am sure someone else can pinpoint the date.
> >
> > Marnie aka Doe
> >
> >
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com

RE: Pentax flanged rear lens cap source

[Igor Roshchin]

Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:23:58 -0800
Don Sanderson wrote:

> American Eagle is eekBay seller "americaneagle_camera".
> Flanged means it has the extra ring that covers the
> electrical contacts on KA and KAF lenses.
> You have to ask him to send the type with the A contact
> flange.
> 
> Don
> 

Thank you, Don!

Igor

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

[Ann Sanfedele]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:47:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I read Rowell all the time back in the day when I
> got photo mags.
> 
> ann sad
> ===
> Uh, ann, a couple of years ago.
> 
> I am sure someone else can pinpoint the date.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe

ugh -

it sounded LIke I'd just missed an obit -

But I do spend a lot of time wondering if this or
that movie star or author
is alive or deceased or what have you

I honestly didn't remember Rowell had died - not
even a glimmer ...

ann the embarrassed

P.s. (i see  have 57 undread messages in this
trhead after yours so I think I'm gonn catch it.)

RE: POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain

[Tom C]

Hello Igor,

Very nice! I'd like to go there. As a casual observer I did not notice any 
noise.  I didn't look for any, but it didn't reach out and slap me either,


Thank you.

Tom C.





From: Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:53:27 -0500 (EST)

Hi All,

Once Upon a Time,...
I finally was able to put together some good shots from my recent
trip to Segovia, Spain.
It should look fine on screens up-to 1024x768 (1280x768), and
probably 1280x1024.
I hope that the pixel grain will not be seen on the larger screens.

The best way is to see it is to go to
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia
and then save the file Segovia-pentax4.pdf and then open it locally
with Acrobat (Reader) (The size is ~1.2 MB).

All shots, except the last one were made with *istDS.
I used Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 (shots #1,5-7),
Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 (#3,4)
and Pentax F 50/1.7 (#8-13), no tripod.
Daytime shots were taken at ISO 200 (#2-4,6).
Evening/night shots were taken at 800 (#1,7,8,9,11) and 3200 (#5,10,12,13).
Unfortunately some shots (e.g. #13) taken at ISO-3200 are rather
noisy/grainy..

Your comments and critique are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

Igor

PS.
Separate, although smaller resolution pictures are available:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia-Pentax/

RE: POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain

[Tom C]

Hello Igor,

Very nice! I'd like to go there. As a casual observer I did not notice any 
noise.  I didn't look for any, but it didn't reach out and slap me either,


Thank you.

Tom C.





From: Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:53:27 -0500 (EST)

Hi All,

Once Upon a Time,...
I finally was able to put together some good shots from my recent
trip to Segovia, Spain.
It should look fine on screens up-to 1024x768 (1280x768), and
probably 1280x1024.
I hope that the pixel grain will not be seen on the larger screens.

The best way is to see it is to go to
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia
and then save the file Segovia-pentax4.pdf and then open it locally
with Acrobat (Reader) (The size is ~1.2 MB).

All shots, except the last one were made with *istDS.
I used Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 (shots #1,5-7),
Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 (#3,4)
and Pentax F 50/1.7 (#8-13), no tripod.
Daytime shots were taken at ISO 200 (#2-4,6).
Evening/night shots were taken at 800 (#1,7,8,9,11) and 3200 (#5,10,12,13).
Unfortunately some shots (e.g. #13) taken at ISO-3200 are rather
noisy/grainy..

Your comments and critique are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

Igor

PS.
Separate, although smaller resolution pictures are available:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia-Pentax/

Re: Home Renovation web page

[Rick Womer]

Nice page, Cotty, and congratulations!  Looked it up
in my UK road atlas; it looks like a great location,
as long as you're not under an approach path to Brize
Norton! (is it still operating?).

We live in a 120 year old house (a callow youth by
European standards, I know), and whenever you run out
of projects there, we have a stack of them here!

Rick

--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll only post this once, in case anyone's the
> slightest bit interested.
> Exciting Pentax content: some of the pics will be by
> Pentax SMC lenses,
> so there.
> 
> We're buying a house, and I'm keeping an online
> diary for friends and
> relatives.
> 
> 
> 
> Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and
> froody now ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: Home Renovation web page

[brooksdj]

Consider it bookmarked.

I'll consider doing the same thing,if and when, my reno gets going.

Working on floor plan number 7 now.LOL

Dave er Tom er, o crap.  

> I'll only post this once, in case anyone's 
the slightest bit interested.
> Exciting Pentax content: some of the pics will be by Pentax SMC lenses,
> so there.
> 
> We're buying a house, and I'm keeping an online diary for friends and
> relatives.
> 
> 
> 
> Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and froody now ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 

RE: Pentax 645 system site???

[Pedro Oliveira]

Thanks, Sylvester, for your kind words.

Best regards,

Pedro Oliveira

-Mensagem original-
De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 21:56
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site???

On 2005-12-17, at 22:21, Pedro Oliveira wrote:

> If that is what I think, some canonians are going to be very  
> surprised.
> BTW, I use Pentax 645 (original) since January, 2001. Fantastic  
> camera.
I'm sure it serves you very well :-)

> I have some pictures taken with the 645 in the AOHC gallery:
> http://www.aohc.it/aohcgallery/gall07e.htm
Really nice photos. Portugal is a really interesting country. I was  
there once, but I'd love to come back there one day.

--
Best regards
Sylwek

Re: GFM contest question

[brooksdj]

> On 17/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >That was actually Toms post. My reply about Feb 1 was underneath the
> quote.
> 
> Oops, sorry tom, I mean Dave, I mean Tom, Dave, Tome, to you to me to
> youpass the wine *hic*

> Cheers,
>   Cotty

What ever that vintage is, it works.:-)

Daom

Re: Peso: Macro test

[Dave Brooks]

In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:40:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Had the istD and new to me fa 100 macro out at work last
Monday, i think. Well
it was the
only sunny day so far this past 10 days or so.LOL
Nothing fancy, just a dandelion poking up from some snow.
I used AF for this and was aiming at the front of the ball.
  
http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=dandelion4312.
jpg

Comments are appreciated.

Dave

It's a good macro, nice detail. However, it doesn't do much for me. The
dandelion is dead center and it needs something -- another adjacent space, 
another
contrasting color, another area of detail -- something to balance it, to set
it off, to make it more interesting.

IMHO, take with a grain of salt, naturally.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe 
++

Thanks for the comment Marnie.
I was not going for any artistic flair with the test, just wanted to see how 
the lens would perform.

I'll keep your comments in mine for more serious shots.I'll need lots of 
practice with macro for my GFM submissions.
Dave

Dave

David J Brooks
Equine Photography in York Region
www.caughtinmotion.com
Pentax istD, Nikon D2H

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

[Pål Jensen]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



"Inner Game of Outdoor Photography" is effing brilliant. Haven't read
the other one. Yet.



Then you would certainly find "vision" equally brilliant as it is exactly in 
the same vein...



PÅL 

Re: Pentax 645 system site???

[Pål Jensen]

- Original Message - 
From: "Pedro Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm



One lens is missing on that page; the 150-300 ED IF zoom lens. An excellent 
optic BTW.



PÅL 

Re: POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain

[Paul Stenquist]

Beautiful, fascinating. Some very good work here. Thanks for sharing.
Paul
On Dec 17, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Hi All,

Once Upon a Time,...
I finally was able to put together some good shots from my recent
trip to Segovia, Spain.
It should look fine on screens up-to 1024x768 (1280x768), and
probably 1280x1024.
I hope that the pixel grain will not be seen on the larger screens.

The best way is to see it is to go to
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia
and then save the file Segovia-pentax4.pdf and then open it locally
with Acrobat (Reader) (The size is ~1.2 MB).

All shots, except the last one were made with *istDS.
I used Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 (shots #1,5-7),
Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 (#3,4)
and Pentax F 50/1.7 (#8-13), no tripod.
Daytime shots were taken at ISO 200 (#2-4,6).
Evening/night shots were taken at 800 (#1,7,8,9,11) and 3200 
(#5,10,12,13).

Unfortunately some shots (e.g. #13) taken at ISO-3200 are rather
noisy/grainy..

Your comments and critique are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

Igor

PS.
Separate, although smaller resolution pictures are available:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia-Pentax/

RE: Anyone tried different focus screen on digital?

[Don Sanderson]

At 105-160 dollars you'd have to want one pretty badly. ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Powell Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:21 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: Anyone tried different focus screen on digital?
> 
> 
> 
> >They don't have a set for Pentax yet,
> 
> YES THEY DO! as of today.
> 
> 
> >http://www.keoptics.com/
> 

RE: Pentax flanged rear lens cap source

[Don Sanderson]

American Eagle is eekBay seller "americaneagle_camera".
Flanged means it has the extra ring that covers the
electrical contacts on KA and KAF lenses.
You have to ask him to send the type with the A contact
flange.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Igor Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:00 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Pentax flanged rear lens cap source
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:39:08 -0800
> Jens Bladt wrote:
> 
> > For what it's worth:
> > American Eagle still has Pentax flanged rear lens caps for sale!
> > email Shelly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Jens Bladt
> 
> Jens,
> 
> Excuse my ignorance, but what is American Eagle rather than
> a business partner of American Airlines?
> 
> While we are on this topic, - what is the difference between the flanged
> caps (are these "snap on" type?)
> and those that are not (which ones are those? bayonet type?)
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Igor
> 
> 

Re: PAD - photo a day

[Gaurav Aggarwal]

Great work. You combine superb composition with perfect technicality.
Your photos are art and not just photos. Please continue sharing more
of your work.
Gaurav

On 12/15/05, alkos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ Don't worry, I will not post a jpeg each morning here ;-) ]
>
>
>
> I'd like to present you my site - http://pad.go.pl
>
> All of the pictures were taken with pentax gear : k2 or mesuper with
> 50/1.2 or 28/3.5 with few exceptions for the pentax gear I don't have
> anymore ;-)
>
> I hope you'll like it :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> cheers
>
> alkos, (trying as much as he can to follow the pdml flow, having no
> internet at home ;-)
>
> --
> 24x36 at op pl
> http://pad.go.pl
>
>

Re: PESO - Fractal Frost

[Tom C]

Hey thanks Paul! Nice words to hear...

Tom C.





From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Fractal Frost
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:48:29 -0500


Capativating. A fascinating image. Well done.
Paul

On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Tom C wrote:


Shiver...

Taken this morning.  *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro.  Shooting up through 
the tops of some Aspen branches.  ISO 200, 1/250, f/14.


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235

Tom C.

Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:




No man is an island.


Yes but some of us are peninsulas.


LOL. Nice one.

I'm more of a promontory.


Funny, I could have sworn you were more of an isthmus...



I wouldn't mind meeting some nice young bays.



I knew it!  Pining for the fjords, again.

Re: OT - Location of Domaine / Address

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>195.166.237.40

linkserve.net

Lagos, Nigeria

Whatever could this be about? 
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Pentax flanged rear lens cap source

[Igor Roshchin]

Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:39:08 -0800
Jens Bladt wrote:

> For what it's worth:
> American Eagle still has Pentax flanged rear lens caps for sale!
> email Shelly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Jens Bladt

Jens,

Excuse my ignorance, but what is American Eagle rather than
a business partner of American Airlines?

While we are on this topic, - what is the difference between the flanged
caps (are these "snap on" type?)
and those that are not (which ones are those? bayonet type?)

Thank you,

Igor

Re: Home Renovation web page

[mike wilson]

Jostein wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and froody now ;-)



Cotty's a man who knows where his towel is.

:-)


Good job I checked thias thread before answering. 8-

Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)

[Mark Roberts]

Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Incidentally, his OP columns are 
>published in book form as "Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure 
>Photography" and "Galen Rowell's Inner Game of Outdoor Photography". All 
>mandatory reading if you're interested in this type of photography.

"Inner Game of Outdoor Photography" is effing brilliant. Haven't read
the other one. Yet.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Pentax 645 system site???

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 2005-12-17, at 22:25, Pedro Oliveira wrote:


Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm
Thanks again :-) So at least we've got two quite informative sites  
about 645. Not that bad :-)



--
Best regards
Sylwek

Re: Pentax 645 system site???

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 2005-12-17, at 22:21, Pedro Oliveira wrote:

If that is what I think, some canonians are going to be very  
surprised.
BTW, I use Pentax 645 (original) since January, 2001. Fantastic  
camera.

I'm sure it serves you very well :-)


I have some pictures taken with the 645 in the AOHC gallery:
http://www.aohc.it/aohcgallery/gall07e.htm
Really nice photos. Portugal is a really interesting country. I was  
there once, but I'd love to come back there one day.


--
Best regards
Sylwek

POUT (Pentax Once Upon a Time) - Segovia, Spain

[Igor Roshchin]

Hi All,

Once Upon a Time,...
I finally was able to put together some good shots from my recent
trip to Segovia, Spain.
It should look fine on screens up-to 1024x768 (1280x768), and
probably 1280x1024.
I hope that the pixel grain will not be seen on the larger screens.

The best way is to see it is to go to
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia
and then save the file Segovia-pentax4.pdf and then open it locally
with Acrobat (Reader) (The size is ~1.2 MB).

All shots, except the last one were made with *istDS. 
I used Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 (shots #1,5-7), 
Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 (#3,4) 
and Pentax F 50/1.7 (#8-13), no tripod.
Daytime shots were taken at ISO 200 (#2-4,6). 
Evening/night shots were taken at 800 (#1,7,8,9,11) and 3200 (#5,10,12,13).
Unfortunately some shots (e.g. #13) taken at ISO-3200 are rather 
noisy/grainy..

Your comments and critique are welcome!

Thank you in advance,

Igor

PS.
Separate, although smaller resolution pictures are available:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Segovia-Pentax/

Re: PESO - Fractal Frost

[Paul Stenquist]

Capativating. A fascinating image. Well done.
Paul

On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Tom C wrote:


Shiver...

Taken this morning.  *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro.  Shooting up 
through the tops of some Aspen branches.  ISO 200, 1/250, f/14.


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235

Tom C.

Re: Home Renovation web page

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll only post this once, in case anyone's the slightest bit
interested.
> Exciting Pentax content: some of the pics will be by Pentax
SMC lenses,
> so there.
> 
> We're buying a house, and I'm keeping an online diary for
friends and
> relatives.
> 
> 

Congratulations Cotty!
You da man!

> Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and froody now
;-)

LOL!

Ciao,

Gianco

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Re: Home Renovation web page

[Paul Stenquist]

Congratulations! looks like a neat place. I'll be dropping in soon.
Paul



From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: "pentax list" 
Subject: Home Renovation web page
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:34:15 +

I'll only post this once, in case anyone's the slightest bit 
interested.
Exciting Pentax content: some of the pics will be by Pentax SMC 
lenses,

so there.

We're buying a house, and I'm keeping an online diary for friends and
relatives.



Er, I guess that's a blog then? I must me cool and froody now ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO x3 Why I still use film...

[DagT]

Den 17. des. 2005 kl. 19.35 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


In a message dated 12/16/2005 10:49:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Resolution if I need it, tonality, and the soft unsharpness in the
out of focus areas.

http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209002

http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209653

http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=210072

Sorry, no Pentax in sight, only an old Bronica SQ-A with PS 180mm,
PS40mm and PS 180mm, respectively, and Ilford Delta 400:

Manual focus, manual film winding, manual exposure, no tripod, no
built in meter, etc. It´s a wonder I get any pictures at all .-)

DagT
===
Wow. Those are stunning, Dag.

One is simply fantastic. If it was me, though, I might go in pixel  
by pixel
and darken up that silver colored tag/hardware on the first boy's  
collar.
Simply to tone it down, because it's a bit distracting and right by  
his thumb.

Minor point, only suggest it to improve it a tad.

I love that pic!

Two, is interesting, not sure I totally like it, but I was  
intriqued, it kept

my interest. Too bad that sand pail was right behind his head. But
interesting motion blur.

Three is great too, not with the emotion of one, but nicely  
composed and a
wonderful rock. It looks like a heart. Holding it in his hands,  
tons of

symbolism there...

Great shots! I am duly impressed. Please stick with film, if this  
is what it

does for you...

Marnie aka Doe ;-)


Thanks Marnie!

I can agree with you regarding the tag, I am considering to retouch  
it from the print, but until then I kept it on the digital version.


I have never been able to concentrate on one thing at the time, so I  
think I will stick to both film and digital.  Both have their own  
advantages, medium format for the intensity and concentration it adds  
(for me) and digital for its convenience.


DagT

RE: Pentax 645 system site???

[Pedro Oliveira]

Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm

Take care.

Pedro Oliveira

-Mensagem original-
De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 11:38
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site???

On 2005-12-17, at 01:10, Pedro Oliveira wrote:

> The only site I found concerning the Pentax 645 is this one:
>
> http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/p645/index.html
>
> The only problem is that it is...in Japanese. But you can find
> interesting information there.
>
> Hope it helps.

Thanks! Seems to be the most complete 645 site so far :-) In links to  
other pages I found one site of Japanese photographer who regularly  
uses 645. Especially interesting is overview of his works during past  
5 years:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent? 
lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.takeuchitoshinobu.jp%2fhisory% 
2findex.htm
In 2005 we find: "The "CANON calendar spreading/displaying LANDSCAPE  
ground" for "The CANON salon" - isn't that ironic and fun? ;-)


--
Best regards
Sylwek

Re: PESO - Fractal Frost

[Tom C]

Thanks Ken.  I have a bunch that didn't work this well or where the branches 
didn't tend to "flatten" themselves in to the composition.  It took a minute 
or so to get the right view.


Tom C.





From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: PESO - Fractal Frost
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:15:26 -0500

Good eye Tom. I like it.
You chose the right patch to capture.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Fractal Frost



Shiver...

Taken this morning.  *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro.  Shooting up through 
the tops of some Aspen branches.  ISO 200, 1/250, f/14.


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235

Tom C.

RE: Pentax 645 system site???

[Pedro Oliveira]

Hi, Sylvester.

If that is what I think, some canonians are going to be very surprised.
BTW, I use Pentax 645 (original) since January, 2001. Fantastic camera.
I have some pictures taken with the 645 in the AOHC gallery:
http://www.aohc.it/aohcgallery/gall07e.htm 

Take care.

Pedro Oliveira

-Mensagem original-
De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 11:38
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site???

On 2005-12-17, at 01:10, Pedro Oliveira wrote:

> The only site I found concerning the Pentax 645 is this one:
>
> http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/p645/index.html
>
> The only problem is that it is...in Japanese. But you can find
> interesting information there.
>
> Hope it helps.

Thanks! Seems to be the most complete 645 site so far :-) In links to  
other pages I found one site of Japanese photographer who regularly  
uses 645. Especially interesting is overview of his works during past  
5 years:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent? 
lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.takeuchitoshinobu.jp%2fhisory% 
2findex.htm
In 2005 we find: "The "CANON calendar spreading/displaying LANDSCAPE  
ground" for "The CANON salon" - isn't that ironic and fun? ;-)


--
Best regards
Sylwek