Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
When I got the *ist D, about a year ago now, I soon had dust trouble. I thought this was because I was taking the lens off to put the camera on the microscope rather a lot. I work in atrocious conditions. This is an old wooden house and everything is covered with a layer of dust that returns within hours of being removed. However, I'm changing lenses now more often than before and the camera is open three or four times a day. Dust doesn't seem to be getting in as much as before. I found one tiny spot a few weeks ago and blew it off. This is the second camera. The first had a flash board problem and was replaced after four or five months. I had to resort to quite drastic cleaning methods with the first. I don't understand why this one should be different. Don John Francis wrote: Well, *my* biggest complaint about digital SLRs is the susceptibility to dust. A sensor with in-camera SR has an obvious approach to this problem; shake the sensor very fast to shake the dust off. This is used in the Olympus E-series bodies, and also in the new Sony A100 (which uses the 10.2MP sensor rumoured to be in the forthcoming K10D). I've been waiting to see if this trick shows up in the new bodies. On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 10:22:52PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Intriguing. I await more information ... ;-) Godfrey On Aug 13, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Wanting to Move to Digital
You forgot the Contax DSLR, but then again so did everyone else... Ryan Brooks wrote: Tom C wrote: Mr. Robb wrote: There aren't a lot of 24x36mm DSLRs out there, so get used to the new format. There's alot! Maybe only one model. ;-) Tom C. Current: 5D, 1DsM2 Not-current: 1Ds, DCS-14n and -14c -Ryan -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 10:22:52PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 13, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. problem; shake the sensor very fast to shake the dust off. This is used in the Olympus E-series bodies, and also in the new Sony A100 (which uses the 10.2MP sensor rumoured to be in the forthcoming K10D). I guess that's not it then :-) Kostas (though an anti-dust system would be nice) P.S.: I don't think Olympus shake the sensor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:01:20 +0200, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. Hi Aaron, Brilliant post :o) My first guess was ISO as accessible as shutter and aperture as an exposure control. However, you heavily hint at vastly improved image quality, archieveable with the same sensor. So I'll just ask: Do you shoot a lot of BW in the 67? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Airwaves Ducati
Hi Guys n Gals, Hmmm, I haven't posted anything for a while, but I've been digging through photos taken over the summer. So here is one of them. Taken at round 6 of the British Super Bikes at Mallory Park in June. A blazing hot day and my first real attempt at anything like this. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Comments welcome. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel
Thanks Keith. Yes, it was taken with the *istD and the DA 12-24. At 12mm, the field of view is approximately the same as an 18mm lens on full-frame 35mm. Paul On Aug 14, 2006, at 1:35 AM, keith_w wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Rest easy Ann. The St. Claire Hotel (now a Best Western Inn) is alive and well on Chicago's Ohio Street. Shot it this morning on my way to breakfast. No room to shoot on the narrow street, so I used the DA 12-24/4 at 12mm focal length, f11 @1/180th, ISO200. Did some perspective correction in PhotoShop. I compensated for the squat effect by stretching the vertical dimension. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 Well done, Paul. That's a skill I need to develop! I can't derive the data from your photo, but may I assume it was taken with a *ist-D? And if so, on that body, what is 12mm equivalent to in 35mm format? keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel
BTW, I believe Annsan said she was born here. That makes it a special place for the PDML and Scrabble players all over the world. Paul On Aug 14, 2006, at 1:42 AM, David Savage wrote: On 8/14/06, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 Well done, Paul. That's a skill I need to develop! I can't derive the data from your photo, but may I assume it was taken with a *ist-D? And if so, on that body, what is 12mm equivalent to in 35mm format? ~18mm Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
- Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Dynamic range perhaps? At least thats my main complaint for all types of photographic media; digital or film... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Oh, that would give it away! But it's not even close to anything that's been mentioned so far. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:46 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
No... mostly I shoot colour neg and make really nice scans on my Sprintscan 120. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:12 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:01:20 +0200, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. Hi Aaron, Brilliant post :o) My first guess was ISO as accessible as shutter and aperture as an exposure control. However, you heavily hint at vastly improved image quality, archieveable with the same sensor. So I'll just ask: Do you shoot a lot of BW in the 67? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Aaron Reynolds wrote: But it's not even close to anything that's been mentioned so far. Ability to load film? Kostas :-P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Hi Aaron, Runs without batteries, ie a mechanical digital camera? ;-). Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy RD Turku www.computec.fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:01 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati
Eric Featherstone wrote: Hi Guys n Gals, Hmmm, I haven't posted anything for a while, but I've been digging through photos taken over the summer. So here is one of them. Taken at round 6 of the British Super Bikes at Mallory Park in June. A blazing hot day and my first real attempt at anything like this. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Comments welcome. Eric. Quite a good shot, but the framing is excessively tight. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel
Paul Stenquist wrote: Rest easy Ann. The St. Claire Hotel (now a Best Western Inn) is alive and well on Chicago's Ohio Street. Shot it this morning on my way to breakfast. No room to shoot on the narrow street, so I used the DA 12-24/4 at 12mm focal length, f11 @1/180th, ISO200. Did some perspective correction in PhotoShop. I compensated for the squat effect by stretching the vertical dimension. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net phew! Thanks Paul! I visited it in 1998 and went in and up to the roof which used to have a rock garden. I like that the pretty much didn't change the facade. last year, when I went to my high school reunion but it was either too expensive without a roomie or full up - I forget which. Of course, that big building next door wasn't there back in the 40's. Now I'm wondering which window was ours :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Epson premium Glossy for 1280 - for sale maybe
I lucked into the following - 11 x 14 Epson paper that says it is for the 1280 a sealed box of 20 sheets of premium glossy plus another half a box of same. an open box of 50 heavyweight matte of which there are 24 sheets left. I suppose I can cut this stuff and use it myself but if it would save one of you some money and I made a little I'd be glad. I spent $9.00 for these 84 sheets of printing paper. The paper weighs about 5 lbs can you send blank paper media mail? I also have a Sandisk card reader and a 512mb Kingston SD memory card. Sorry for not being very cahtty lately - really skimming list at best. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel
Extremely clean and nicely exposed shot. You're very handy with that laptop. :) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rest easy Ann. The St. Claire Hotel (now a Best Western Inn) is alive and well on Chicago's Ohio Street. Shot it this morning on my way to breakfast. No room to shoot on the narrow street, so I used the DA 12-24/4 at 12mm focal length, f11 @1/180th, ISO200. Did some perspective correction in PhotoShop. I compensated for the squat effect by stretching the vertical dimension. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel
Paul Stenquist wrote: BTW, I believe Annsan said she was born here. That makes it a special place for the PDML and Scrabble players all over the world. Paul LOL! Nope, wasn't actually born _there_ , born in Cook County Hospital. :) _Lived_ there (at the St. Claire) until I was 5 or 6 years old then we moved to the South side for 3 years and the far north side after that. Many fond memories of the roof rock garden - enhanced by the numerous pics my mom took -- I'll have to post a couple of those. ann On Aug 14, 2006, at 1:42 AM, David Savage wrote: On 8/14/06, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 Well done, Paul. That's a skill I need to develop! I can't derive the data from your photo, but may I assume it was taken with a *ist-D? And if so, on that body, what is 12mm equivalent to in 35mm format? ~18mm Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel
Thanks Jack. I'm getting used to it. I looked at this and the other Chicago pics on my desktop monitor this morning. They were close enough that I didn't fiddle. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Extremely clean and nicely exposed shot. You're very handy with that laptop. :) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rest easy Ann. The St. Claire Hotel (now a Best Western Inn) is alive and well on Chicago's Ohio Street. Shot it this morning on my way to breakfast. No room to shoot on the narrow street, so I used the DA 12-24/4 at 12mm focal length, f11 @1/180th, ISO200. Did some perspective correction in PhotoShop. I compensated for the squat effect by stretching the vertical dimension. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati
Nice shot. I like the tight crop. I might make it even tighter and crop the top right into the helmet to make it four-sides clipped. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Featherstone wrote: Hi Guys n Gals, Hmmm, I haven't posted anything for a while, but I've been digging through photos taken over the summer. So here is one of them. Taken at round 6 of the British Super Bikes at Mallory Park in June. A blazing hot day and my first real attempt at anything like this. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Comments welcome. Eric. Quite a good shot, but the framing is excessively tight. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati
On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:33 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Quite a nice shot. I like the tight composition overall, although I would try cropping the RH edge in a little tighter as it feels to me that the balance is a little too far left. The tonalities seem a little washed out/bright on my screen. A small adjustment to bring down the curve just a little bit improves it. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
To change from 67 would imply improved resolution and detail ... If shooting tripod mounted and with the mirror locked up it might be possible to use the SR system move the sensor a small amount between exposures then combine exposures using an interpolation algorithm to improve the resolution? Similarly, combining multiple exposures to improve the dynamic range in camera (a bit like HDR imaging). Dave - Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, 14 August, 2006 12:08:00 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body No... mostly I shoot colour neg and make really nice scans on my Sprintscan 120. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:12 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:01:20 +0200, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. Hi Aaron, Brilliant post :o) My first guess was ISO as accessible as shutter and aperture as an exposure control. However, you heavily hint at vastly improved image quality, archieveable with the same sensor. So I'll just ask: Do you shoot a lot of BW in the 67? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Rotating sensor for vertical shots without contortions? Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Monday, 14 August 2006 11:01 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
A way to save shots as transparencies. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/08/06, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rotating sensor for vertical shots without contortions? Have they even managed to implement an orientation sensor on their DSLRs? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I rarely shoot with a tripod -- in fact, I no longer own one. -Aaron -Original Message- From: David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:46 am Size: 2K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To change from 67 would imply improved resolution and detail ... If shooting tripod mounted and with the mirror locked up it might be possible to use the SR system move the sensor a small amount between exposures then combine exposures using an interpolation algorithm to improve the resolution? Similarly, combining multiple exposures to improve the dynamic range in camera (a bit like HDR imaging). Dave - Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, 14 August, 2006 12:08:00 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body No... mostly I shoot colour neg and make really nice scans on my Sprintscan 120. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:12 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:01:20 +0200, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. Hi Aaron, Brilliant post :o) My first guess was ISO as accessible as shutter and aperture as an exposure control. However, you heavily hint at vastly improved image quality, archieveable with the same sensor. So I'll just ask: Do you shoot a lot of BW in the 67? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
An AE feature that allows each single pixel to expose differently? In fact a 10 million segment matrix metering. Meaning NO burned out high lights. EVER.. And NO shodows without detail - or even noice. AT ALL? THAT WOULD TRUELY BE SENSATIONAL! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 14. august 2006 13:05 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Oh, that would give it away! But it's not even close to anything that's been mentioned so far. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:46 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Hmmm, the SR device could do that... Dario - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On 15/08/06, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rotating sensor for vertical shots without contortions? Have they even managed to implement an orientation sensor on their DSLRs? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
David, Do I understand you to be speculating as to the relative resolution achievable by use of a, yet to be released, 10mp D and 67 film? Assuming you have a 67 available to you, have you made such a comparison? Jack --- David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To change from 67 would imply improved resolution and detail ... If shooting tripod mounted and with the mirror locked up it might be possible to use the SR system move the sensor a small amount between exposures then combine exposures using an interpolation algorithm to improve the resolution? Similarly, combining multiple exposures to improve the dynamic range in camera (a bit like HDR imaging). Dave - Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, 14 August, 2006 12:08:00 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body No... mostly I shoot colour neg and make really nice scans on my Sprintscan 120. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:12 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:01:20 +0200, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. Hi Aaron, Brilliant post :o) My first guess was ISO as accessible as shutter and aperture as an exposure control. However, you heavily hint at vastly improved image quality, archieveable with the same sensor. So I'll just ask: Do you shoot a lot of BW in the 67? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Another Blow Against Photography
X-ray machines may be able to detect substances of the same density as liquid explosives, but I doubt that they could tell the difference between the explosives and a harmless hand cream. Frits Wüthrich wrote: From the news I also learned about the restrictions on flying from Europe to the USA as you have mentioned. Flying to the UK however, the restrictions are even stronger, also from mainland Europe to the UK: No handluggage at all. Exception for passports, prescription medication with your name on them, and some stuff for the baby traveling with you. All that you are allowed need to be carried in a transparent plastic bag. The rest need to be checked. How long this will stay in place in not yet known. The next step the Netherlands wants to push for in Europe is to install in European airports X-ray machines for handlugage with the same capabilities as is already in use for checked luggage, as these can detect liqued explosives as well. And it was the intention of the terrorist to use liqued explosives is my understanding. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 14.08.2006, at 17:08 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm, the SR device could do that... I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Wow, a uniform mid-gray image. Unique! -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jens Bladt wrote: An AE feature that allows each single pixel to expose differently? In fact a 10 million segment matrix metering. Meaning NO burned out high lights. EVER.. And NO shodows without detail - or even noice. AT ALL? THAT WOULD TRUELY BE SENSATIONAL! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 14. august 2006 13:05 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Oh, that would give it away! But it's not even close to anything that's been mentioned so far. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:46 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P I suspect that people will complain about it even it if it is the finest camera ever produced. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
How about giving each sensor site the ability to capture more than one color at a time (like the Foveon). I would settle for that. -Brendan --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Water lily IV
The composition doesn't grab me. The flowers are too centered, maybe cropping a bit off of one edge, or if you want it centered a somewhat tighter crop. The contrast seems to be a bit too high for the subject matter. Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That's for sure, whichever its specs :-) However, I fully agree with you. It is more than reasonable that the K10D will be just above the D80 and more or less comparable with the D200 (some features will be better and some will be worse), hence we cannot expect a flagship camera. So, what about starting discussing the K1D? :-)) Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On 14.08.2006, at 17:08 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm, the SR device could do that... I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I'm glad I read this before I replied, it was the first thing that sprang to mind... graywolf wrote: Wow, a uniform mid-gray image. Unique! -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Your point? Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 14.08.2006, at 17:08 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm, the SR device could do that... I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P Best regards Sylwek -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- Folk Festival finale
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Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I thought it was a stupid post myself. Totally devoid of any useful information. Just like this one. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Brilliant post :o) -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P I suspect that people will complain about it even it if it is the finest camera ever produced. I'd like to register a complaint about that complaint! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Actually, given the leaked price point, I'm expecting a D80 equivalent with PC-Sync and possibly a slightly larger buffer. No way its going to be similar to a D200 at a $999 pricepoint. -Adam Dario Bonazza wrote: That's for sure, whichever its specs :-) However, I fully agree with you. It is more than reasonable that the K10D will be just above the D80 and more or less comparable with the D200 (some features will be better and some will be worse), hence we cannot expect a flagship camera. So, what about starting discussing the K1D? :-)) Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On 14.08.2006, at 17:08 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm, the SR device could do that... I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
No, not quite. An image, without burned out higlights (255 white) or shadows without no is not necassaryly totally mid-grey. It's just - well - without burned out higlights or blocked shadows. This technology is actually precently beeing researched/discussed. So I was told recently, by a pro photographer/studio owner/photo dealer. I'ts not impossible - just difficult to achieve. In theory still possible. Sometime in the future. It would be what I regard as a well exposed image. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af graywolf Sendt: 14. august 2006 17:55 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Wow, a uniform mid-gray image. Unique! -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jens Bladt wrote: An AE feature that allows each single pixel to expose differently? In fact a 10 million segment matrix metering. Meaning NO burned out high lights. EVER.. And NO shodows without detail - or even noice. AT ALL? THAT WOULD TRUELY BE SENSATIONAL! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 14. august 2006 13:05 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Oh, that would give it away! But it's not even close to anything that's been mentioned so far. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:46 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Another Blow Against Photography
I think that's if you call compare your opponent Hitler or a Nazi in a flame war. Describing his behavior probably doesn't count, unless you attribute it to your opponent. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another Blow Against Photography Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Never has. Is that why Hitler wanted to kill the jews? Radical Islam has a fundamental problem with everyone else in the world. That makes them a problem. It has nothing to do with conditions. We tried the liberal cure in many places: Give them a lot of money and better living conditions and everything will be okay. Never has worked. Won't work now. Isn't there some sort of rule that when Hitler gets mentioned, the arguement is over, the battle lost? William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system
Pretty much a wrap up for the theoretical discussion in this thread: my Toyota Prius was delivered late Friday. I've been pretty busy the past few days but I finally got to drive it a bit on the 70+ mile round trip to where I've hung my current photo exhibit. I have 190 miles on the odometer now, it had 2 when I picked it up. It meets or exceeds my expectations so far: - Performance is more than satisfactory, at least as good as the Land Rover Freelander overall. Handling is good ... It's not a sport sedan but given the ride and quiet, it handles well: predictable, stable, good grip in the corners, tight turning radius, easy to manage. It has excellent cruise and passing power for highway driving between 65 and 85 mph. The drive system works brilliantly too, you just drive it and it does all the business seamlessly, smoothly. - Load capacity surprises me. I put the 16 16x20-framed photos for the exhibit, my trolley cart to roll them around on, two bags of installation goodies and equipment, plus my briefcase with camera, notebook, etc all into the rear cargo area without having to even flip the rear seats down. Nothing was in the rear seats. That's better than could fit into the Land Rover ... I always had to flip down the rear seats for that size load. - Ride comfort and quiet are excellent, you can actually enjoy the sound system (also excellent) due to the isolation from road and traffic noise. The climate control system works very well, although we haven't had temperatures like the heat wave of several weeks ago this past weekend. The seats are comfy if a little short under my thigh (I have long legs). All controls and such work with a light precise touch, are easy to find. It has a *lot* of features with the #6 option package, will likely take me several weeks to understand all of them. The hands-free Bluetooth cell phone control package is next on the list to read about in the manual... - After 190 miles, I'm down to about 3/4 tank on the gauge from full ... The Freelander had a bigger fuel tank (15 gallons) and would be down to about 1/4 tank at this mileage: I'd be looking to refill it in the next 30-40 miles at most. According to the consumption monitor, I'm averaging 44-45 mpg at present. That's pretty amazing considering that I've done nothing to optimize my driving for fuel efficiency and it seems to have more space, comfort and about the same performance. I think the Prius will easily go 400-450 miles on a 10-gallon tank of fuel, that's a very welcome change. I'm very pleased with it for an initial impression. A very nice car that suits my goals well. Godfrey BTW: My exhibit Traveler In London is now hanging at the Zocalo Cafe in San Leandro. 16 color prints, 11x14 matted/framed to 16x20. The reception is scheduled for Saturday, August 19, 6:30 to 9:00 pm. An official announcement and website link will be sent shortly. Hope to see some of you there! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Water lily IV
Yeah, we discussed the blown out blossoms. Positive film exposure is fine, it's my wonderful little flatbed scanner. Why doesn't that bother me on an example scan such as this? Because of there being two blossoms, the center area placement felt ok to me. I recently put up a lily shot called Leggy Lilies in which I cropped it as a vertical, placing the blossoms at the top and allowing the stems to represent legs. That was too unique for someone and a more straightforward squared off crop was suggested. Simply verifies the range of viewer tastes. Comments are appreciated. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The composition doesn't grab me. The flowers are too centered, maybe cropping a bit off of one edge, or if you want it centered a somewhat tighter crop. The contrast seems to be a bit too high for the subject matter. Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
So maybe it could use something akin to a floating-point representation - 12 bits of precision, and a few extra bits to indicate the sensitivity of any particular pixel. This isn't a new idea - Pixar experimented with floating-point linear response frame buffers back in the '80s, when they were trying to extend the dynamic range. It's a reasonable idea for that purpose, especially with noise-free synthetic images, but I'm not sure it would out-perform a simple 16-bit linear sensor in the real world. On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 07:05:20PM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote: No, not quite. An image, without burned out higlights (255 white) or shadows without no is not necassaryly totally mid-grey. It's just - well - without burned out higlights or blocked shadows. This technology is actually precently beeing researched/discussed. So I was told recently, by a pro photographer/studio owner/photo dealer. I'ts not impossible - just difficult to achieve. In theory still possible. Sometime in the future. It would be what I regard as a well exposed image. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af graywolf Sendt: 14. august 2006 17:55 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Wow, a uniform mid-gray image. Unique! -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jens Bladt wrote: An AE feature that allows each single pixel to expose differently? In fact a 10 million segment matrix metering. Meaning NO burned out high lights. EVER.. And NO shodows without detail - or even noice. AT ALL? THAT WOULD TRUELY BE SENSATIONAL! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 14. august 2006 13:05 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Oh, that would give it away! But it's not even close to anything that's been mentioned so far. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:46 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Perspective correction by (autodetected) movement of the sensor plane? Groeten, Vic Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Morning on Michigan Avenue
Another pic from the Chicago trip. DA 12-24, f8 @ 1/180, ISO 200. Perspective correction, proportion adjuistment and crop in PhotoShop. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4805150 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Or... Move the sensor even more... To cover a much wider area... say full frame, but much more than 10Mpix? At least great wide angle landscapes with fine details (provided one owns a great 24x36 wide angle). What if Pentax says well, it's 10Mpix APS-C, but on a tripod, it becomes a 30Mpix 24x36 (I haven't checked the numbers, they are most probably awfully wrong, and the SR platform most probably can't move that far away). David Harris a écrit : To change from 67 would imply improved resolution and detail ... If shooting tripod mounted and with the mirror locked up it might be possible to use the SR system move the sensor a small amount between exposures then combine exposures using an interpolation algorithm to improve the resolution? Similarly, combining multiple exposures to improve the dynamic range in camera (a bit like HDR imaging). Dave - Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, 14 August, 2006 12:08:00 PM Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body No... mostly I shoot colour neg and make really nice scans on my Sprintscan 120. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:12 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:01:20 +0200, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. Hi Aaron, Brilliant post :o) My first guess was ISO as accessible as shutter and aperture as an exposure control. However, you heavily hint at vastly improved image quality, archieveable with the same sensor. So I'll just ask: Do you shoot a lot of BW in the 67? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Water lily IV
Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, we discussed the blown out blossoms. Positive film exposure is fine, it's my wonderful little flatbed scanner. Why doesn't that bother me on an example scan such as this? Because of there being two blossoms, the center area placement felt ok to me. I recently put up a lily shot called Leggy Lilies in which I cropped it as a vertical, placing the blossoms at the top and allowing the stems to represent legs. That was too unique for someone and a more straightforward squared off crop was suggested. I know. I liked that one. Simply verifies the range of viewer tastes. Comments are appreciated. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The composition doesn't grab me. The flowers are too centered, maybe cropping a bit off of one edge, or if you want it centered a somewhat tighter crop. The contrast seems to be a bit too high for the subject matter. Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. Automatically puts a cat into every photo you take. :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Wow! Indeed the SR could do this! This only comes to advertized 30 Mpix (just like Sigma). How great on the spec sheets! Brendan MacRae a écrit : How about giving each sensor site the ability to capture more than one color at a time (like the Foveon). I would settle for that. -Brendan --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Now that's very interesting! A tilt and shift sensor, that would be really neat! Never mind automatic, you could control it with the 4 way control or maybe even the hyper-program wheels. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic Mortelmans Sent: 14 August 2006 19:38 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Perspective correction by (autodetected) movement of the sensor plane? Groeten, Vic Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Water lily IV
If I may ask, have you had a chance to check out my recent PESO: Columbine? Thanks for Legy remark. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, we discussed the blown out blossoms. Positive film exposure is fine, it's my wonderful little flatbed scanner. Why doesn't that bother me on an example scan such as this? Because of there being two blossoms, the center area placement felt ok to me. I recently put up a lily shot called Leggy Lilies in which I cropped it as a vertical, placing the blossoms at the top and allowing the stems to represent legs. That was too unique for someone and a more straightforward squared off crop was suggested. I know. I liked that one. Simply verifies the range of viewer tastes. Comments are appreciated. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The composition doesn't grab me. The flowers are too centered, maybe cropping a bit off of one edge, or if you want it centered a somewhat tighter crop. The contrast seems to be a bit too high for the subject matter. Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
:-)) J --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. Automatically puts a cat into every photo you take. :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Automatically removes cats from every exposure? Mark Roberts wrote: Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. Automatically puts a cat into every photo you take. :) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Kostas (though an anti-dust system would be nice) P.S.: I don't think Olympus shake the sensor. They do. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Aaron Reynolds a écrit : I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. A good focusing device that can be used with MF lenses (of course) and is accurate enough for fast lenses... Well, not only DSLRs lack this. This and the wide angle limitation (sensor size) are my biggest complaints to the DSLRs (the full frame sensors do not suffer the wide angle issue, but they are far far over my price tag). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 14 August 2006 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P I suspect that people will complain about it even it if it is the finest camera ever produced. Godfrey Somebody in my class once got 99% in an exam. The teacher wrote Still room for improvement. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Pål Jensen wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so if you can't tell us what this great new feature is, at least let us speculate. What's your most basic complaint about digital? Dynamic range perhaps? At least thats my main complaint for all types of photographic media; digital or film... This *is* actually a rumor circulating (more-than-12-bit color depth). Don't know if I believe it myself. If true, it would be confirmation that Pentax is not using the Sony sensor that's in the D200. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
- Original Message - From: Richard Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] A tilt and shift sensor, that would be really neat! Never mind automatic, you could control it with the 4 way control or maybe even the hyper-program wheels. Tilt/shift sensor is good idea for something like the 645D. However, a APS 10Mp camera won't have much problem with DOF to make such an expensive feature worthwhile in my opinion. Pål http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: 14 August 2006 16:27 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On 14.08.2006, at 17:08 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm, the SR device could do that... I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P Heaven forfend! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That happened to me in graduate school. I had to take a math course for a second time. I managed to get 99.4% for a final numerical grade. When I ran into the professor he told me that if I took the course a third time he could guarantee me a grade of 100. Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 14 August 2006 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P I suspect that people will complain about it even it if it is the finest camera ever produced. Godfrey Somebody in my class once got 99% in an exam. The teacher wrote Still room for improvement. Bob -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
P. J. Alling wrote: Automatically removes cats from every exposure? ...and replaces the cat with a picture of flowers. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:32:54 +0200, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant in the sense that it was guaranteed to evoke wild speculation. I mean: 'no-brainer', 'fore-head slapping', yet good enough to step out of the Brotherhood... I hope Aaron is enjoying himself :o) I thought it was a stupid post myself. Totally devoid of any useful information. Just like this one. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Brilliant post :o) -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati
I agree with Godfrey's observations. For me, having more of the image in front of the rider would add to the overall feel of motion. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:33 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Quite a nice shot. I like the tight composition overall, although I would try cropping the RH edge in a little tighter as it feels to me that the balance is a little too far left. The tonalities seem a little washed out/bright on my screen. A small adjustment to bring down the curve just a little bit improves it. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels a little crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be a function of the light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this bloom appears to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here in North Central US. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black valuer background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of course, protected by being shaded from the sun. DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec mirror up delay, remote switch. All comments welcome! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
55-100mm 67 Zoom for trade
I love this lens, but I think I'd prefer a prime because of size. It's a truly amazing optic, but I'd like to see if anyone would like to trade a late 55mm prime + cash? for it. It's in perfect shape, with the hood, caps and a Pentax SMC filter. Contact via private email, Thanks! -Ryan Brooks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Autofocus on the point you're looking at and exposure when you blink you're eye ;) On 8/14/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 14, 2006, at 15:14, Toine wrote: Autofocus on the point you're looking at and exposure when you blink your eye ;) On 8/14/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal Maybe by SEALS the deal he's talking about weatherproofing? Hmmm... no, that's not too innovative. These little snippets of information and guessing are just driving me nuts. Grr. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Outstanding in its field
Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
My biggest complaint will probably be the price tag ;-( Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob W Sendt: 14. august 2006 21:15 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: 14 August 2006 16:27 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On 14.08.2006, at 17:08 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm, the SR device could do that... I think Dario that we are beginning to expect too much from K10D and when it finally comes, despite being great camera, people will complain about it on PDML :-P Heaven forfend! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 08/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 14.08.06, at 18:32 , Dario Bonazza wrote: So, what about starting discussing the K1D? :-)) Yes, FF at the price point of D200 :-))) Finally Cotty could eat his hat as he swore in the past AFAIR :-))) -- Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Folk Festival finale
Mike- I like the shot overall...but...the bokeh (if you want to call it that) in the background area looks very strange to my eye. -Brendan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=134 Pentax *ist DS, FA20-35 iso 1600, f/4.5, 1/6sec (the badge is from the Folk Fest back in 1988) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GESO: Police Badges - second set
I sent around a link to the first set of these antique police badges a couple of weeks ago and mentioned that I had another set coming in to photograph. They arrived last week in the middle of my preparations for the show, but the client needed to get them done quickly ... When it rains it pours. Anyway, I'm still in too much work to do mode, my PAW is way behind schedule, but the Traveler In London exhibit was installed yesterday and looks good. In a few capricious moments this morning I built a web page for the second set... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ (The first set, in case you missed it, is at http://homepage.mac.com/ godders/police-badge-01/ .) I'd mentioned my crude lighting setup for the first set and someone came back with a recommendation for the EZ Cube light stage. I looked them up and thought it looked pretty darn nice so I bought a 20 one, which these photos were made with. Certainly improved the lighting by quite a bit! Some of this set were quite difficult to shoot so this set took nearly double the time to finish nonetheless. They're beautiful things with fantastic engraving work. All were photographed with the Pentax *ist DS and Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens. enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Outstanding in its field
I like the concept alot but I'm unsure as to this shot. At first I like it. On second glance, it seems slightly unsharp, even in the forground, and the brightly lit petals are lacking in detail, maybe blowing out a little... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Outstanding in its field Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:31:18 -0400 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that people will complain about it even it if it is the finest camera ever produced. Godfrey They already have, but personally, I love my LX and even without spotmetering I will never give it up! ;-) -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Water lily IV
I liked that one too. I don't always comment on every PESO/PAW. Jack Davis wrote: If I may ask, have you had a chance to check out my recent PESO: Columbine? Thanks for Legy remark. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, we discussed the blown out blossoms. Positive film exposure is fine, it's my wonderful little flatbed scanner. Why doesn't that bother me on an example scan such as this? Because of there being two blossoms, the center area placement felt ok to me. I recently put up a lily shot called Leggy Lilies in which I cropped it as a vertical, placing the blossoms at the top and allowing the stems to represent legs. That was too unique for someone and a more straightforward squared off crop was suggested. I know. I liked that one. Simply verifies the range of viewer tastes. Comments are appreciated. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The composition doesn't grab me. The flowers are too centered, maybe cropping a bit off of one edge, or if you want it centered a somewhat tighter crop. The contrast seems to be a bit too high for the subject matter. Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO: Police Badges - second set
Godfrey, very nicely done again - the lighting is just right for the subject, and it's a great subject. The border round the shots is too heavy for my taste. It takes the eye away from the subject and is causing optical grey dots at the intersections of the grid. If they must have a border, how about 1 pixel wide in a light or medium grey? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 14 August 2006 21:42 To: PDML; SeePhoto Talk; PAW Subject: GESO: Police Badges - second set I sent around a link to the first set of these antique police badges a couple of weeks ago and mentioned that I had another set coming in to photograph. They arrived last week in the middle of my preparations for the show, but the client needed to get them done quickly ... When it rains it pours. Anyway, I'm still in too much work to do mode, my PAW is way behind schedule, but the Traveler In London exhibit was installed yesterday and looks good. In a few capricious moments this morning I built a web page for the second set... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ (The first set, in case you missed it, is at http://homepage.mac.com/ godders/police-badge-01/ .) I'd mentioned my crude lighting setup for the first set and someone came back with a recommendation for the EZ Cube light stage. I looked them up and thought it looked pretty darn nice so I bought a 20 one, which these photos were made with. Certainly improved the lighting by quite a bit! Some of this set were quite difficult to shoot so this set took nearly double the time to finish nonetheless. They're beautiful things with fantastic engraving work. All were photographed with the Pentax *ist DS and Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens. enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
So maybe it could use something akin to a floating-point representation - 12 bits of precision, and a few extra bits to indicate the sensitivity of any particular pixel. This isn't a new idea - Pixar experimented with floating-point linear response frame buffers back in the '80s, when they were trying to extend the dynamic range. It's a reasonable idea for that purpose, especially with noise-free synthetic images, but I'm not sure it would out-perform a simple 16-bit linear sensor in the real world. Given the eye's logarithmic sensitivity to intensity, it actually make a lot of sense. At least as much as gamma-correct fixed-point. IIRC some of the linux utilities used in the movie industry for CG stuff (cinepaint, vips/nip) have support for some of these mini-floating-point formats. I think the've got 16-bit floats, 24-bit floats, etc. I really doubt that the dynamic range is the problem of digital encoding. It really seems to be sensor limitations, judging by the shadow noise of highly-stretched images. You can encode all the way down, but digitizing noise is still noise. Now... if the ANALOG SNR could be improved (by say, a 50ISO-designed APS-sized sensor), then there might be some benefit. As it is, 12 linear bits seems to fit the effective dynamic range at ISO200 pretty well (yielding approx 8-bits of gamma-corrected image). -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field
Nice composition, beautiful color. Are these in the Dearborn Ford fields? Paul -- Original message -- From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Bob W wrote: Kostas (though an anti-dust system would be nice) P.S.: I don't think Olympus shake the sensor. They do. generating ultrasonic vibrations that shake off dust and debris onto a dust absorber at the bottom of the filter. http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/products/e300/feature/index.html I am not clear what ultrasonic vibrations are, but I take your word for it. Thanks Bob. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Well, perhaps Pentax could make it working technology rather than just hype. Who knows? -Brendan --- Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Indeed the SR could do this! This only comes to advertized 30 Mpix (just like Sigma). How great on the spec sheets! Brendan MacRae a écrit : How about giving each sensor site the ability to capture more than one color at a time (like the Foveon). I would settle for that. -Brendan --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Bob W wrote: Kostas (though an anti-dust system would be nice) P.S.: I don't think Olympus shake the sensor. They do. generating ultrasonic vibrations that shake off dust and debris onto a dust absorber at the bottom of the filter. http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/products/e300/feature/index.html I am not clear what ultrasonic vibrations are It means they vibrate the sensor at a frequency beyond the range of human hearing. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field
Are these in the Dearborn Ford fields? Yep, just north of WHQ. Thanks for commenting Paul. Heh if you're still in Chi town, are you still planning on shooting the cruise? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field Nice composition, beautiful color. Are these in the Dearborn Ford fields? Paul -- Original message -- From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Water lily IV
Understood! Glad you like it. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I liked that one too. I don't always comment on every PESO/PAW. Jack Davis wrote: If I may ask, have you had a chance to check out my recent PESO: Columbine? Thanks for Legy remark. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, we discussed the blown out blossoms. Positive film exposure is fine, it's my wonderful little flatbed scanner. Why doesn't that bother me on an example scan such as this? Because of there being two blossoms, the center area placement felt ok to me. I recently put up a lily shot called Leggy Lilies in which I cropped it as a vertical, placing the blossoms at the top and allowing the stems to represent legs. That was too unique for someone and a more straightforward squared off crop was suggested. I know. I liked that one. Simply verifies the range of viewer tastes. Comments are appreciated. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The composition doesn't grab me. The flowers are too centered, maybe cropping a bit off of one edge, or if you want it centered a somewhat tighter crop. The contrast seems to be a bit too high for the subject matter. Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field
Ken, Great shot. Sell to stock house immediately. -Brendan --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Cory Papenfuss wrote: Given the eye's logarithmic sensitivity to intensity, it actually make a lot of sense. At least as much as gamma-correct fixed-point. IIRC some of the linux utilities used in the movie industry for CG stuff (cinepaint, vips/nip) have support for some of these mini-floating-point formats. I think the've got 16-bit floats, 24-bit floats, etc. I really doubt that the dynamic range is the problem of digital encoding. It really seems to be sensor limitations, judging by the shadow noise of highly-stretched images. You can encode all the way down, but digitizing noise is still noise. Now... if the ANALOG SNR could be improved (by say, a 50ISO-designed APS-sized sensor), then there might be some benefit. As it is, 12 linear bits seems to fit the effective dynamic range at ISO200 pretty well (yielding approx 8-bits of gamma-corrected image). Great summation of the situation. Thanks! In short, it means that if they're going to deliver more than the current 12-bit (per color) data, there must have been a significant advance in the design of the sensor - presumably made by Samsung. I still doubt this will appear in the K10D but I'd be happy to be wrong on this one! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field
Ken, Crisp and clear, but with Velvia colors. Heavy on the left to a point that I'm still thinking about it. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
actually you may be right - I never really registered the ultrasound part, and just assumed they shake the sensor. Anyway, by does a nice little display on the back of dust falling away when I switch it on. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kostas Kavoussanakis Sent: 14 August 2006 22:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Bob W wrote: Kostas (though an anti-dust system would be nice) P.S.: I don't think Olympus shake the sensor. They do. generating ultrasonic vibrations that shake off dust and debris onto a dust absorber at the bottom of the filter. http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/products/e300/feature/index.html I am not clear what ultrasonic vibrations are, but I take your word for it. Thanks Bob. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Cory Papenfuss wrote: (cinepaint, vips/nip) have support for some of these mini-floating-point formats. I think the've got 16-bit floats, 24-bit floats, etc. Are they really floats, or are they fixed-point fractionals? If I search on the Internet for VIPS / NIP will I find details on the data formats? I'd really be curious to know more about these formats. I started in this business doing low-level graphics code in assembly many moons ago. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
Well, Paul California always has the latest. ;-) My wife says that the Columbine is CO's state flower and Google just confirmed it. A small picture of a lavender and white version. Thanks for thoughts. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels a little crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be a function of the light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this bloom appears to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here in North Central US. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black valuer background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of course, protected by being shaded from the sun. DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec mirror up delay, remote switch. All comments welcome! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 8/14/06 5:02 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do. generating ultrasonic vibrations that shake off dust and debris onto a dust absorber at the bottom of the filter. I do not think they shake the sensor itself. I thought they shake a dedicated glass in front of sensor, or the low pass filter. I am too lazy to go into the Oly's site but shaking the sensor itself at ultrasonic frequency sounds very messy. Cheers, Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field
Nice, indeed. An unusual case where the direct, bright light works very well. The colors are great, the composition is nice, just overall great! -- Bruce Monday, August 14, 2006, 1:31:18 PM, you wrote: KW Check out KW http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html KW Comments appreciated. KW Thanks in advance KW Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set
Hi Bob, I'm not sure what you mean by the border round the shots. The border on all the individual pages for the badges is a double line, 2 pixels white and two pixels black, against a white page background. Perhaps you mean the borders around the thumbnails on the index page? That's a factor of the HTML generation software and its way of highlighting the thumbnails. I could change the color but I don't know that there's a lot more I can to change it. Godfrey On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Bob W wrote: Godfrey, very nicely done again - the lighting is just right for the subject, and it's a great subject. The border round the shots is too heavy for my taste. It takes the eye away from the subject and is causing optical grey dots at the intersections of the grid. If they must have a border, how about 1 pixel wide in a light or medium grey? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 14 August 2006 21:42 To: PDML; SeePhoto Talk; PAW Subject: GESO: Police Badges - second set I sent around a link to the first set of these antique police badges a couple of weeks ago and mentioned that I had another set coming in to photograph. They arrived last week in the middle of my preparations for the show, but the client needed to get them done quickly ... When it rains it pours. Anyway, I'm still in too much work to do mode, my PAW is way behind schedule, but the Traveler In London exhibit was installed yesterday and looks good. In a few capricious moments this morning I built a web page for the second set... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ (The first set, in case you missed it, is at http://homepage.mac.com/ godders/police-badge-01/ .) I'd mentioned my crude lighting setup for the first set and someone came back with a recommendation for the EZ Cube light stage. I looked them up and thought it looked pretty darn nice so I bought a 20 one, which these photos were made with. Certainly improved the lighting by quite a bit! Some of this set were quite difficult to shoot so this set took nearly double the time to finish nonetheless. They're beautiful things with fantastic engraving work. All were photographed with the Pentax *ist DS and Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens. enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
K.Takeshita wrote: On 8/14/06 5:02 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do. generating ultrasonic vibrations that shake off dust and debris onto a dust absorber at the bottom of the filter. I do not think they shake the sensor itself. I thought they shake a dedicated glass in front of sensor, or the low pass filter. I am too lazy to go into the Oly's site but shaking the sensor itself at ultrasonic frequency sounds very messy. Cheers, Ken Oly shakes the filter in front of the sensor. I'm not sure if Sony does that, or shakes the entire assembly (Sony could do the latter because of the Anti-Shake unit). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati
LOL a conflict of opinions straight away ;-) But Adam Paul, thanks for commenting. Adam, sorry, in this case this is all there is. I probably should have used a rather shorter lens (IIRC this was with a 300mm and I wasn't _that_ far from the track) to give me a bit of room to play around with later. Paul, cropping the top off would get rid of most of that bright yellow which is probably a bit distracting. I'll have a play around with that anyway... something like this? http://ginkoleaf.dyndns.org/~ericf/photos/temp/airwavesducaticropped.jpg Thanks again, Eric. On 14/08/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice shot. I like the tight crop. I might make it even tighter and crop the top right into the helmet to make it four-sides clipped. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Featherstone wrote: Hi Guys n Gals, Hmmm, I haven't posted anything for a while, but I've been digging through photos taken over the summer. So here is one of them. Taken at round 6 of the British Super Bikes at Mallory Park in June. A blazing hot day and my first real attempt at anything like this. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Comments welcome. Eric. Quite a good shot, but the framing is excessively tight. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO: Police Badges - second set
Hi, yes - I mean the border round the thumbnails. If there's nothing you can do about it then que sera sera. Actually it didn't click with me that they were thumbnails. I prefer seeing them as multiples rather than as individual photos. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 14 August 2006 23:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set Hi Bob, I'm not sure what you mean by the border round the shots. The border on all the individual pages for the badges is a double line, 2 pixels white and two pixels black, against a white page background. Perhaps you mean the borders around the thumbnails on the index page? That's a factor of the HTML generation software and its way of highlighting the thumbnails. I could change the color but I don't know that there's a lot more I can to change it. Godfrey On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Bob W wrote: Godfrey, very nicely done again - the lighting is just right for the subject, and it's a great subject. The border round the shots is too heavy for my taste. It takes the eye away from the subject and is causing optical grey dots at the intersections of the grid. If they must have a border, how about 1 pixel wide in a light or medium grey? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 14 August 2006 21:42 To: PDML; SeePhoto Talk; PAW Subject: GESO: Police Badges - second set I sent around a link to the first set of these antique police badges a couple of weeks ago and mentioned that I had another set coming in to photograph. They arrived last week in the middle of my preparations for the show, but the client needed to get them done quickly ... When it rains it pours. Anyway, I'm still in too much work to do mode, my PAW is way behind schedule, but the Traveler In London exhibit was installed yesterday and looks good. In a few capricious moments this morning I built a web page for the second set... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ (The first set, in case you missed it, is at http://homepage.mac.com/ godders/police-badge-01/ .) I'd mentioned my crude lighting setup for the first set and someone came back with a recommendation for the EZ Cube light stage. I looked them up and thought it looked pretty darn nice so I bought a 20 one, which these photos were made with. Certainly improved the lighting by quite a bit! Some of this set were quite difficult to shoot so this set took nearly double the time to finish nonetheless. They're beautiful things with fantastic engraving work. All were photographed with the Pentax *ist DS and Pentax-A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens. enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Cory Papenfuss wrote: (cinepaint, vips/nip) have support for some of these mini-floating-point formats. I think the've got 16-bit floats, 24-bit floats, etc. Are they really floats, or are they fixed-point fractionals? If I search on the Internet for VIPS / NIP will I find details on the data formats? I'd really be curious to know more about these formats. I started in this business doing low-level graphics code in assembly many moons ago. VIPS/NIP is actually two things... one is a library, and one is a sample application built on it. I never remember which is which. I found it about 2 years ago as I was trying to find an image editor for linux with 8bpp. They are self-proclaimed cross between Photoshop and Excel. Very odd interface that I never quite got used to. It has potential for weird image formats and spreadsheet-like batch processing. Cinepaint (formerly known as film-gimp) has a web-page describing some of their history. I think it requires a library that deals with (and describes) some of the funkier formats that were developed for high-dynamic-range CG image processing. I don't remember too much of the details and I'm away from broadband for the day... :) -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
