Re: USM Lens Availability
When a company issues a PDF on their website with the name lens roadmap, it's hardly a rumor anymore. It is also a document of commitment, so questioning whether these lenses will be realised is quite futile, imho. What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. Jostein On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is it know? Everything I've read here seems to be rumor or speculation, although supported by reasonable arguments in its favor. Is there perhaps something I've missed that makes this comment a truth rather than rumor/speculation? I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8, but nothing that says Pentax will be _definitely_ be using it, although it seems like a good idea and the lens certainly interests me. What are your sources? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sources point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
It's the old one. According to the document properties, it was last changed on 22. March 2006. Jostein On 9/7/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. I just examined that page more closely and it does have a link to one of the roadmap PDF files. Looks fairly old - they hadn't even decided on the exact focal lengths of the 16-50 and 50-135. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. Jostein On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is there a chart showing future releases? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist This is a link to currently available lenses. There is also a chart showing future releases. http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Dearth of Film Scanners
There's really not much market for film scanners anymore, except at the high end. I've had a Minolta Scan Dual II since 2000. It's getting a little long in the tooth and is a little lightly built for ultimate durability, so I nabbed a used Nikon Coolscan IV ED that I saw available for $300, which seems about average for them on the auction block. The V model would be better for its higher resolution, but I've never had any problem with the 3000ppi class scanner results, and the Coolscan IV is one of the best made scanners out there, ever. I don't use the scanner enough to pay $500 for it. Which one of these scanners do you reckon is best at scanning BW? - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: the way it was ... the way it is (was: amusing product review)
My dear chap, you left out the sterling silver cutlery set - so much nicer in the hand than this nasty stainless steel stuff everyone has nowadays! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: RE: the way it was ... the way it is (was: amusing product review) I have found the following to be the absolute minimum necessary for any trip longer than 1 night away from home, and further than Tunbridge Wells to the south, or Chingford to the north: a well-furnished tent 3 months' rations collapsible canoe jointed flagstaff and Union Jack hand pump and sterilising plant astrolabe 6 suits of tropical linen sou'wester camp operating table and set of surgical instruments portable humidor Christmas hamper with Santa costume and mistletoe stand cane for whacking snakes coil of rope sheet of tin several cleft sticks riding breeches for winter and summer bush shirts a sola topi a double-brimmed sun hat a camp bed and sleeping bag long boots to deter mosquitoes at sundown quinine pills to protect against malaria slabs of black chocolate for energy metal uniform cases a cedarwood trunk lined with zinc to keep ants out silk pyjamas to avoid typhus several more cleft sticks a stick cleaver Bob (with thanks to William Boot) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: K100D - K/M lens usage?
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 12:11:56 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: K100D - K/M lens usage? I have read the shutterbug sidebar on the matter and it only References making some custom settings, nothing about needing To push any buttons, that's why I asked. jco Want to bet on if the journo actually tried it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mat Maessen Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D - K/M lens usage? On 9/6/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the way K/M lenses function on the K100D body? Is it the same as the *istD series with Some sort of green button hypermanual function? TIA, JCO If I had to guess, it uses the AE-lock button, like on the DS/DS2. It's not green, but I think it works the same way. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100D - K/M lens usage?
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 12:39:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K100D - K/M lens usage? Basically the same as all the Ds and just fine as far as I'm concerned. Paul Can be limiting in certain situations. Horses for courses. On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:28 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just downloaded the K100D manual and it seems that The only mode offered ( without error) for K/M lenses is stop down Metered manual via pressing the DOF mode and adjusting body Shutter speed or lens aperture ring. ( better than nothing, I guess ). jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:12 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: K100D - K/M lens usage? I have read the shutterbug sidebar on the matter and it only References making some custom settings, nothing about needing To push any buttons, that's why I asked. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mat Maessen Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D - K/M lens usage? On 9/6/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the way K/M lenses function on the K100D body? Is it the same as the *istD series with Some sort of green button hypermanual function? TIA, JCO If I had to guess, it uses the AE-lock button, like on the DS/DS2. It's not green, but I think it works the same way. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Royal Photo Op.
Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 01:00:35 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Those still holding out for a FF Pentax please note. John So, because one component (probably the most expensive) costs 10x more (plus associated costs) the whole unit is twice the price. Seems like a bargain to me. Pentax can knock the DL/2 out (with two lenses) for £500. Give me that with FF and you can throw the mechanical actuator in as well. I'll pay £1500. The LX, body only, got to more than that in the UK. On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:46:41 +0100, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much info is available on the sensor cost, and this is one of them. At least the authour, who claimed to have worked in the semicon industry for years, is fairly definitive. But he is referring to 200mm wafer which is a bit outdated. It must be at least 300mm now. The article is dated Sept 2006 though. Anyway, FF sensor cost is interesting http://www.naturescapes.net/092006/ej0906.htm Ken -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Humorous Logic
What can I say... If I want jelly, I don't eat fish. There's a pun in there, I know, but for ONCE I shall not go there...:-) Jostein On 9/6/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have not read the notices on the bulletin boards in rest stops in Wisconsin, I see. The story is about how so many Norwegians wound up in Wisconsin, it concerts lutefish, and the story is very humorous. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jostein Øksne wrote: There is nothing... ...and i repeat Nothing... humorous about lutefisk. Jostein On 9/6/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found buried in a discussion on Slashdot (http://slashdot.org) Hrmm... a larg enough block of Na [sodium] tossed into a lake would essentially make a large pool of lye. Na + H20 = Lye + stuff Explosion + fish = dead fish dead fish + lye = lutefisk Sorry, I guess it's the disused wannabe-chemist in me. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Royal Photo Op.
Good luck, Tim. Jostein On 9/7/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
As a FWIW addendum, Pentax Lab 3, despite protestations to the contrary, works fine with Win OSs back to 98SE. Speeds things up nicely, too. m From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 03:38:48 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Firmware updates! SDHC for everyone! http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ mike -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: the way it was ... the way it is (was: amusing product review)
From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 07:56:27 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: the way it was ... the way it is (was: amusing product review) My dear chap, you left out the sterling silver cutlery set - so much nicer in the hand than this nasty stainless steel stuff everyone has nowadays! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia You can't get the servants to take proper care of the ivory handles when you are that far from civilisation. One has to make _some_ compromises. - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: RE: the way it was ... the way it is (was: amusing product review) I have found the following to be the absolute minimum necessary for any trip longer than 1 night away from home, and further than Tunbridge Wells to the south, or Chingford to the north: a well-furnished tent 3 months' rations collapsible canoe jointed flagstaff and Union Jack hand pump and sterilising plant astrolabe 6 suits of tropical linen sou'wester camp operating table and set of surgical instruments portable humidor Christmas hamper with Santa costume and mistletoe stand cane for whacking snakes coil of rope sheet of tin several cleft sticks riding breeches for winter and summer bush shirts a sola topi a double-brimmed sun hat a camp bed and sleeping bag long boots to deter mosquitoes at sundown quinine pills to protect against malaria slabs of black chocolate for energy metal uniform cases a cedarwood trunk lined with zinc to keep ants out silk pyjamas to avoid typhus several more cleft sticks a stick cleaver Bob (with thanks to William Boot) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 06:48:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability When a company issues a PDF on their website with the name lens roadmap, it's hardly a rumor anymore. It is also a document of commitment, so questioning whether these lenses will be realised is quite futile, imho. What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. Jostein ILFM? The newest technology is an anagram of film? 8-) On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is it know? Everything I've read here seems to be rumor or speculation, although supported by reasonable arguments in its favor. Is there perhaps something I've missed that makes this comment a truth rather than rumor/speculation? I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8, but nothing that says Pentax will be _definitely_ be using it, although it seems like a good idea and the lens certainly interests me. What are your sources? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts There's no link to be had. The information isn't officially available yet, though some people have seen the planned development path. It *is* known that The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. Sources point to a 16-50/2.8 and a 50-135/2.8 as being the first to appear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Royal Photo Op.
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 08:34:32 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Royal Photo Op. Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. If they are that famous, you won't be able to get out of the street because of /the crowds/security/some other excuse. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Royal Photo Op.
This ain't UK Mike ;-) In Norway we have a much closer relation with the royals. But you could be right. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 7. september 2006 11:59 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Royal Photo Op. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 08:34:32 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Royal Photo Op. Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. If they are that famous, you won't be able to get out of the street because of /the crowds/security/some other excuse. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Royal Photo Op.
Hi! Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. I'd suggest you use the window to get the more interesting view from above. Good luck! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 9/7/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. ILFM? The newest technology is an anagram of film? 8-) hehehe. That would be fun. Given the many opponents of TLA's I just wanted to avoid USM and SSM for a change. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Royal Photo Op.
Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:29:45 +0200 schreef Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. I'd suggest you use the window to get the more interesting view from above. And free line-of-sight... Maybe rush out to shoot the departure from street level? You probably won't see treir faces from the window when they are leaving... Good luck, -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Royal Photo Op.
Boris Liberman wrote: I'd suggest you use the window to get the more interesting view from above. ..and shouting 'Gardyloo' just before you press the shutter. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Firmware updates!
Great! Thanks Mike ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Mike Hamilton SDHC for everyone! http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Pics of the 16-50/2.8 Tokina ... not the pentax version. Shel [Original Message] From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/6/2006 9:38:18 PM Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability I've seen pics of the 16-50/2.8 Shel - Really? Where? The only pic I've seen is of the Tokina version. That doesn't count--it doesn't have the green metal band. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Please provide a link to the lens roadmap that shows these new and yet to be released lenses. Like I've said a couple of times, I've not seen it. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne When a company issues a PDF on their website with the name lens roadmap, it's hardly a rumor anymore. It is also a document of commitment, so questioning whether these lenses will be realised is quite futile, imho. What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Thanks! That's helpful. However, there are those here who claim there will be some sort of motor-in0\-lens auto focus, but I've not seen anything official about that. Yet there are some who speak of it as fact. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
I use ColorSynch for printing, so I'm not sure how this relates. I do all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is said to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. I save that original. If I'm going to print a file, I convert it to Generic RGB, then convert to 8 bit,. I select the profile for my paper in the print box, turn on Colorsynch management in the print box and hit the button. I'm printing on an Epson 2200. I get beautiful results this way. I'm not sure if I could do better some other way. But past experiments have always led me right back to this method. Paul On Sep 6, 2006, at 11:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I always do profile conversions in 16bit. You can see the histograms jump more when you go to 8bit. If you tell Photoshop to let the printer do the color management, the image data is reduced to 8bit on the way to the print driver *before* profile conversion, meaning more shifts will be apparent. When Photoshop is managing the process, it converts to 8bit as the final step before sending to the driver, which is in pass through mode. Godfrey On Sep 6, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I doubt that any is from the bit depth, unless Godfrey is emphasizing the importance of starting with a 16-bit file and doing all the processing in 16 bit. Whether PhotoShop converts to 8-bit before printing or while printing would seem to make no difference. Obviously, color space can make a difference with many images. Starting with a 16-bit file is important, but at some point PhotoShop has to convert. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Ahh, that explains why I've not seen what some others have seen. Thanks for clarifying that. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne It's the old one. According to the document properties, it was last changed on 22. March 2006. Jostein On 9/7/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ It has existing for quite a while. Ah yes, but that's the current lens line-up, not the roadmap of lenses yet to come. Pentax has published a couple of those, IIRC. There's also an unpublished (officially) one in circulation, authenticity undetermined. I just examined that page more closely and it does have a link to one of the roadmap PDF files. Looks fairly old - they hadn't even decided on the exact focal lengths of the 16-50 and 50-135. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. Paul On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:20 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Thanks! That's helpful. However, there are those here who claim there will be some sort of motor-in0\-lens auto focus, but I've not seen anything official about that. Yet there are some who speak of it as fact. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
Anyone know where I might be able to find release notes? I'm curious to know what else has been changed for the *ist DL. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Great! Thanks Mike ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Mike Hamilton SDHC for everyone! http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- Schooner passes Faulkner's Light II
The blue color looks very wrong to me - prefer a better sepia rendition. Also preferred the earlier pic as well. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/6/2006 9:22:31 PM Subject: PESO -- Schooner passes Faulkner's Light II All right, it seems that most people liked the composition but no almost no one liked the conversion. I decided to take a different tack with this exposure. Yes, it is a different exposure. I applied a certain amount of noise reduction after raw conversion and before doing some contrast enhancement in Photoshop. As I said this is mostly monochrome to start with but now it has the blues, (rather than the reds). http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersii.jpg.htm l Technical Data: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/4000sec (Av) smc Pentax A 300mm f4 SMC Pentax F 1.7x converter @ f11 -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Apologies, Shel, You're right that the facts are official yet. 14 September will be the magical date. Jostein On 9/7/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! That's helpful. However, there are those here who claim there will be some sort of motor-in0\-lens auto focus, but I've not seen anything official about that. Yet there are some who speak of it as fact. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne You may wish to click the button named lens development roadmap above the table of current lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
No he hasn't. It's part of a vicious cruel dis-information campaign. nudge, nudge, wink wink Dave At 07:05 PM 7/09/2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Royal Photo Op.
Gardyloo ;-D That's definitely the right thing to shout. I'm one quarter Scottish. I'm of now, they are arriving in ten mins. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith Sent: 7. september 2006 11:56 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Royal Photo Op. Boris Liberman wrote: I'd suggest you use the window to get the more interesting view from above. ..and shouting 'Gardyloo' just before you press the shutter. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Royal Photo Op.
I've had that problem with a _celebrity_ 8-(( Movement was easier when Mrs Queen was here. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 09:22:32 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Royal Photo Op. This ain't UK Mike ;-) In Norway we have a much closer relation with the royals. But you could be right. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 7. september 2006 11:59 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Royal Photo Op. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 08:34:32 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Royal Photo Op. Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. If they are that famous, you won't be able to get out of the street because of /the crowds/security/some other excuse. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Royal Photo Op.
I think I'll go for the window. I had a talk with the lady who gone chat them. She is going to manoeuvre them in right position :-D Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 7. september 2006 12:30 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Royal Photo Op. Hi! Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. I'd suggest you use the window to get the more interesting view from above. Good luck! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 09:32:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability On 9/7/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What remains to be seen is whether the new zooms will feature in-lens focus motors. ILFM? The newest technology is an anagram of film? 8-) hehehe. That would be fun. Given the many opponents of TLA's I just wanted to avoid USM and SSM for a change. :-) Jostein Focus - In Lens Motor. Pentax - the only company whose lenses have FILM built in! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Of course it is art. If the Times is right about how she obtained the photographs, it puts the blogger's reaction in a very tragic perspective. That one man, with access to a blog site and some skill in concocting a demagogic argument can mislead hundreds into attacking another person. Jostein On 9/7/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso - Caribou in formation
Good geometry in this one Ken. Again, another great photo. Dave Brooks Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 11:05:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Rob posted an excerpt from the press release, which apparently he has seen. Others have seen it as well. Note the little winks on some messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
On 07/09/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use ColorSynch for printing, so I'm not sure how this relates. I do all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is said to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. ProPhoto RGB color space is very wide (~290k cubic colorspace units), to the point where working in 8 bits can definitely be problematic, Adobe RGB is just a little larger (~131k cubic colorspace units) in some areas than sRGB (the standard monitor color space, ~90k cubic colorspace units) Incidentally and further off the track analysing my monitor calibration profiles it appears that my CRT profile covers ~104k colorspace units and my TFT display covers ~89k colorspace units. http://www.iccview.de/index_eng.htm -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 11:01:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) I wouldn't have a problem with pictures of genuine reactions but forcing those reactions from toddlers seems to deserve the Edward II treatment. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On 07/09/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) That's great, it's about as real as it gets, I'm betting that those faces relate a lot to the sensitivity of people they will become. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. Yes, just a bit. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:01:19 +0200 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. It's probably art. Not very good art, in my opinion, but still art... Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) I wouldn't have a problem with pictures of genuine reactions but forcing those reactions from toddlers seems to deserve the Edward II treatment. Isn't that a bit harsh (if I read up on Edward correctly)? My son pulls faces like that serveral times a day. Sometimes without (discernible) reason, sometimes after provocations quite similar to what was done here. Thinks like saying 'you are going to bed' or 'no, you can't have another cookie' to him :o) -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 9/07/06 8:50 AM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 11:05:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability Where? When? Can you provide a link to the original message Rob posted? At least a subject line? You say he has apparently seen the release. Unless you mean something else, apparently suggests that he may not have seen the release (although I have no reason to doubt Rob's word on the matter if he says he has seen it other than to wonder if what he saw was an official release). Shel Shel, I am not Rob who must be asleep in the crocodile land, but I think I have seen it recently. In fact, folks have been arguing profusely :-) about ultrasonic vs supersonic when I peeked into it so I sort of ignored the thread. Then I popped in toward the end, missing in-betweens and they were apparently talking about the actual press release. Thread title was Lens in motor or not? USM? and at some point, Rob allegedly posted the pertinent part of the press release which clearly mentioned the in-lens supersonic motor, from which the argument erupted (I guess). With the release date approaching so close, it is very conceivable that distributors/retailers already got documentations and if you are persistent/insistent, you might be able to get it :-). That's all I know but hope it helps your frustration. Cheers, Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 9/07/06 8:17 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thread title was Lens in motor or not? USM? and at some point, Rob allegedly posted the pertinent part of the press release which clearly mentioned the in-lens supersonic motor, from which the argument erupted (I guess). Opps, I forgot to add an important thing. Since you said you have no reason to doubt Rob's word, you can take above as the fact, which should ease your mind, right ? :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
UV filver vs. Sigma UV DG filter
I'd tried my Sigma UV EX DG filter gives so much better picture that ordinary HOYA UV filter. Its multicoating works similar to lense coating. So the difference is there clearly seen when shooting with not so expensive 75-300mm pentax kense and clearly seen every little detail. I'm purchasing another filter for my wide-angle lense. -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 12:22:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:01:19 +0200 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. It's probably art. Not very good art, in my opinion, but still art... Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) I wouldn't have a problem with pictures of genuine reactions but forcing those reactions from toddlers seems to deserve the Edward II treatment. Isn't that a bit harsh (if I read up on Edward correctly)? My son pulls faces like that serveral times a day. Sometimes without (discernible) reason, sometimes after provocations quite similar to what was done here. Thinks like saying 'you are going to bed' or 'no, you can't have another cookie' to him :o) That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 12:40:55 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( Probably not but I place it on the same level as pulling the wings off flies. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 12:55:57 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On 9/7/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. It looks to me much more like a very cheap and very dirty way to attract attention. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:55:57 +0200 schreef Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Oh, come on. Because mamma left the room, and came back again? On one day, once, or a few times at most? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:36:03 +0200 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 12:22:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:01:19 +0200 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. It's probably art. Not very good art, in my opinion, but still art... Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) I wouldn't have a problem with pictures of genuine reactions but forcing those reactions from toddlers seems to deserve the Edward II treatment. Isn't that a bit harsh (if I read up on Edward correctly)? My son pulls faces like that serveral times a day. Sometimes without (discernible) reason, sometimes after provocations quite similar to what was done here. Thinks like saying 'you are going to bed' or 'no, you can't have another cookie' to him :o) That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Well, I wouldn't dream of doing this myself, but I find the negative reactions (not yours, Mike, but the ones cited in the article) overblown... Taking ugly pictures, giving them a wholly unconnected title and selling it as 'art' or even a 'political statement', now that's abhorrent. Or it's a big joke. The comment on photographing bears as a metaphor seemed to hint that way. i mean, she can't be serious, can she? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso - Caribou in formation
Interesting and very well composed shot. Terrain makes me wonder if these might be the Barren Ground variety.(?) Where taken? Thanks! Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good geometry in this one Ken. Again, another great photo. Dave Brooks Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Forget that I said that 8-))) Bleeding scabby webmail interfaces - let's take the lollipops off the software developers. From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 02:24:30 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 12:55:57 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On 08/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not but I place it on the same level as pulling the wings off flies. Exactly, one of the poor little sods had piercings already. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On 9/7/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Who cares if it's art? Did you notice the price of her prints? Now that's mean spirited! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Anyone running this....
Any one here running the new Mac desktops with the dual chips. If so, any comments. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
I've been using one; works great for native apps... still prefer the G5 for photoshop and any MS Office work. Absolutely flies w/ CaptureOne compared to the G5. -R On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, David J Brooks wrote: Any one here running the new Mac desktops with the dual chips. If so, any comments. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Quoting Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Who cares if it's art? Did you notice the price of her prints? Now that's mean spirited! MARK. Dave -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
What did you do to get it to install on 98se? More importantly what did you do to get Photolab 2 to install on 98se. Inquiring minds want t to know! mike wilson wrote: As a FWIW addendum, Pentax Lab 3, despite protestations to the contrary, works fine with Win OSs back to 98SE. Speeds things up nicely, too. m From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 03:38:48 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Firmware updates! SDHC for everyone! http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ mike -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
It is on the DS download page. http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20050415e.html Anyone know where I might be able to find release notes? I'm curious to know what else has been changed for the *ist DL. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Independence, CO
Nice work again Gaoug. Since i'm a split rail fence and log guy, the last two are my favorites. Gotta get out more.:-) Dave Quoting Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.alphoto.com/co06/page1.htm Very nice shots, Doug. I especially like the one looking down on the river in the valley. I /really/ have to get out to that part of the world one of these days. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
IMHO, it says more about the phenomenon of child modelling, than it does about the photographic idea. Brings a dimension of good irony to the project...:-) Jostein On 9/7/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:55:57 +0200 schreef Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: That is a normal (and proper) part of growing up. But taking the same child to a studio, lighting them and then deliberately provoking the reaction is abhorent to me. Scarred for life :-( What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Oh, come on. Because mamma left the room, and came back again? On one day, once, or a few times at most? -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
SO WHAT! You wouldn't pay $350 - 400 more for a FF Pentax body? I certainly would... Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:00:35 +0100 Those still holding out for a FF Pentax please note. John On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:46:41 +0100, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much info is available on the sensor cost, and this is one of them. At least the authour, who claimed to have worked in the semicon industry for years, is fairly definitive. But he is referring to 200mm wafer which is a bit outdated. It must be at least 300mm now. The article is dated Sept 2006 though. Anyway, FF sensor cost is interesting http://www.naturescapes.net/092006/ej0906.htm Ken -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
I read the article and the photographers own words give me the impression that she's out of touch with reality, in some ways. Most people in society have been conditioned to see images such as these as child abuse. However she got a lot of free publicity out of it.and since California seems to have become just a large extension of Hollywood, I guess down deep she's, if not enjoying it, benefiting by it. Just remember the old adage, It doesn't matter what they print, as long as they spell my name right! David Savage wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) Cheers, Dave -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
Thanks Ryan. I like the ibook, and the mac way of things, for the most part, but i do like 1-2 PC programs i still run, but i'm sure i can get mac based ones aswell.(Apperently BBPro will not be available anytime soon for Mac) My PC has probably reached its limit and i fear a C drive wipe clean and reload may be the only way out. I have never done one, and dread the thought of doing it and reloading everything and doing all of the updates again. Dave Quoting ryan brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using one; works great for native apps... still prefer the G5 for photoshop and any MS Office work. Absolutely flies w/ CaptureOne compared to the G5. -R On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, David J Brooks wrote: Any one here running the new Mac desktops with the dual chips. If so, any comments. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
I've already got 2 installed. Just clicked on the .exe file and it it did it all by itself. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 03:25:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Firmware updates! What did you do to get it to install on 98se? More importantly what did you do to get Photolab 2 to install on 98se. Inquiring minds want t to know! mike wilson wrote: As a FWIW addendum, Pentax Lab 3, despite protestations to the contrary, works fine with Win OSs back to 98SE. Speeds things up nicely, too. m From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 03:38:48 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Firmware updates! SDHC for everyone! http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ mike -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
photo browser/laboratory 3
Somebody was discussing Photo Browser/Laboratory software v.3 recently and was asking if one can get it without buying k100D I cannot find those posts, so I don't remember if there was any consensus established at that point. So, just in case, http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/digital/photo3.html It looks like this update is for the people who have version 2 installed. HTH, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 03:48:43 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. I read the article and the photographers own words give me the impression that she's out of touch with reality, in some ways. Most people in society have been conditioned to see images such as these as child abuse. However she got a lot of free publicity out of it.and since California seems to have become just a large extension of Hollywood, I guess down deep she's, if not enjoying it, benefiting by it. Just remember the old adage, It doesn't matter what they print, as long as they spell my name right! Greneburg she is, then. David Savage wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) Cheers, Dave -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Dearth of Film Scanners
On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:37 AM, Toralf Lund wrote: I've had a Minolta Scan Dual II since 2000. It's getting a little long in the tooth and is a little lightly built for ultimate durability, so I nabbed a used Nikon Coolscan IV ED that I saw available for $300, which seems about average for them on the auction block. The V model would be better for its higher resolution, but I've never had any problem with the 3000ppi class scanner results, and the Coolscan IV is one of the best made scanners out there, ever. I don't use the scanner enough to pay $500 for it. Which one of these scanners do you reckon is best at scanning BW? They're almost identical in use. The Minolta is 2820 ppi, the Nikon is 2900 ppi so the resolution is very near identical. I drive them both with Vuescan, turn off the dust and scratch removal stuff on the Nikon. What I haven't resolved yet (I've only had the Nikon for a few days) is which light source does a better job, but my preliminary results looking at color slide scans is that they look to produce nearly identical results. The Nikon seems marginally faster. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On 9/7/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ryan. I like the ibook, and the mac way of things, for the most part, but i do like 1-2 PC programs i still run, but i'm sure i can get mac based ones aswell.(Apperently BBPro will not be available anytime soon for Mac) Look into a product called Parallels. It will let you run a Windows XP virtual machine on an Intel-based Mac. Also, there's a product called Boot Camp, which will let you multi-boot the intel-based macs into either Windows XP or OSX. Yes, a mac that runs windows. No, I'm not kidding. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 07/09/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob (inadvertently) posted something a week or so ago (can't remember the thread) which suggested that he had seen an official document. He was a bit ticked off with himself. On 7/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, just a bit. This bit? The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. D'oh. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Mat Maessen wrote: I like the ibook, and the mac way of things, for the most part, but i do like 1-2 PC programs i still run, but i'm sure i can get mac based ones aswell.(Apperently BBPro will not be available anytime soon for Mac) Look into a product called Parallels. It will let you run a Windows XP virtual machine on an Intel-based Mac. Also, there's a product called Boot Camp, which will let you multi-boot the intel-based macs into either Windows XP or OSX. Yes, a mac that runs windows. No, I'm not kidding. I have several clients running Boot Camp on their Apple Intel-based systems. The new systems run Windows very well, although there are a few issues with some oddball driver or another that doesn't work. Parallels has more driver limitations and does not provide anywhere near the same performance at this point in time, but allows both OS to be running simultaneously. The next version of Mac OS X will have what is now Boot Camp embedded and will be able to run both OSes without having to add anything at all. I do contracting work on Apple systems and Mac OS X system administration. Not one person who has purchased an Apple Intel-based system - Mini, iMac, MacBook Pro, MacBook, or Mac Pro - has complained that they bought the wrong system to date, whether they came from Mac OS X or Windows background. There have certainly been some glitches but all have been resolvable to their satisfaction with very little effort. When Photoshop is upgraded to a Universal Binary, or Lightroom goes final, there will be powerful incentive for me to upgrade the G5 to a Mac Pro tower... ! I'll continue to run Mac OS X though as Windows gives me a headache. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
I presume your ColorSync workflow runs like this: - image in 16bit ProPhoto - Print with Preview - set let printer manage color - set rendering intent - epson driver - set paper type and print resolution options - set color management - colorsync So what happens is that Photoshop renders the data to the print driver in 8bit form, having done an implicit conversion, and then the Epson driver renders the data with conversion for the paper type, inkset, and ColorSync profile. The results can be very good, and difficult to distinguish from the 'all photoshop' printing workflow ... - image in 16bit ProPhoto - Print with Preview - set let photoshop manage color - set paper/inkset/printer profile and rendering intent - epson driver - set paper type and print resolution options - set color management - off The difference is when/where the conversion to 8bit happens relative to the profile conversion. In the latter workflow, the profile conversion happens before the 8bit conversion, in the ColorSync workflow the profile conversion happens later. Depending upon the paper type and the exact printer model you have, it might be difficult to demonstrate the difference. Also, the quality of the ColorSync profile for a given paper/inkset/printer is a factor. The R2400, K3 inkset, and supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte and Epson Fine Art Velvet (my standard papers) are very very good, there have only been a couple of occasions where I found any reason to fine tune the printing process with the driver controls. Godfrey On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I use ColorSynch for printing, so I'm not sure how this relates. I do all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is said to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. I save that original. If I'm going to print a file, I convert it to Generic RGB, then convert to 8 bit,. I select the profile for my paper in the print box, turn on ColorSync management in the print box and hit the button. I'm printing on an Epson 2200. I get beautiful results this way. I'm not sure if I could do better some other way. But past experiments have always led me right back to this method. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: TOPDML in early Oct?
On 9/1/06, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be in Toronto from Oct 3rd to around the 17th. Anyone up for a meet? momentarily out of lurk mode I'm down for that. As Dave said, the first weekend you're here will be our Tanxgiving, so lets target the weekend after (which I think would be your last weekend here. Hoping we can arrange something! cheers, frank back into lurk mode -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
This upgrade on the DS adds only the SDHC capability beyond the previous rev 2 firmware. Since the DL/DL2/DS2 came equipped with the equivalent of DS rev 2 firmware, it should only enable the SDHC on those three models. Godfrey On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:34 AM, Matt Kelch wrote: Anyone know where I might be able to find release notes? I'm curious to know what else has been changed for the *ist DL. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: photo browser/laboratory 3
On 9/7/06, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, just in case, http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/digital/photo3.html It looks like this update is for the people who have version 2 installed. It updates nicely from v1 too. It is actually a full install that only requires you to have the CD that came with your Pentax DSLR ready, to verify your ownership. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
Mat Maessen wrote: On 9/7/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ryan. I like the ibook, and the mac way of things, for the most part, but i do like 1-2 PC programs i still run, but i'm sure i can get mac based ones aswell.(Apperently BBPro will not be available anytime soon for Mac) Look into a product called Parallels. It will let you run a Windows XP virtual machine on an Intel-based Mac. Also, there's a product called Boot Camp, which will let you multi-boot the intel-based macs into either Windows XP or OSX. Yes, a mac that runs windows. No, I'm not kidding. -Mat Unfortunately, David is running an iBook, which cannot use BootCamp or run Parallels. Look into VirtualPC, which is a PC emulation program for PPC Mac's like the iBook -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Adam Maas wrote: I like the ibook, and the mac way of things, for the most part, but i do like 1-2 PC programs i still run, but i'm sure i can get mac based ones aswell.(Apperently BBPro will not be available anytime soon for Mac) Look into a product called Parallels. It will let you run a Windows XP virtual machine on an Intel-based Mac. Also, there's a product called Boot Camp, which will let you multi-boot the intel-based macs into either Windows XP or OSX. Unfortunately, David is running an iBook, which cannot use BootCamp or run Parallels. Look into VirtualPC, which is a PC emulation program for PPC Mac's like the iBook But he was asking about the Apple Intel-based systems, Adam. I would NOT recommend VirtualPC for anything to do with image processing. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Mat Maessen wrote: I like the ibook, and the mac way of things, for the most part, but i do like 1-2 PC programs i still run, but i'm sure i can get mac based ones aswell.(Apperently BBPro will not be available anytime soon for Mac) Look into a product called Parallels. It will let you run a Windows XP virtual machine on an Intel-based Mac. Also, there's a product called Boot Camp, which will let you multi-boot the intel-based macs into either Windows XP or OSX. Yes, a mac that runs windows. No, I'm not kidding. I have several clients running Boot Camp on their Apple Intel-based systems. The new systems run Windows very well, although there are a few issues with some oddball driver or another that doesn't work. Parallels has more driver limitations and does not provide anywhere near the same performance at this point in time, but allows both OS to be running simultaneously. The next version of Mac OS X will have what is now Boot Camp embedded and will be able to run both OSes without having to add anything at all. I do contracting work on Apple systems and Mac OS X system administration. Not one person who has purchased an Apple Intel-based system - Mini, iMac, MacBook Pro, MacBook, or Mac Pro - has complained that they bought the wrong system to date, whether they came from Mac OS X or Windows background. There have certainly been some glitches but all have been resolvable to their satisfaction with very little effort. When Photoshop is upgraded to a Universal Binary, or Lightroom goes final, there will be powerful incentive for me to upgrade the G5 to a Mac Pro tower... ! I'll continue to run Mac OS X though as Windows gives me a headache. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
I'd pay for it if I felt it added any advantage to what I already had. So far, there is nothing to use as a comparison. The K10D isn't out yet, and that should add substantial advantage over the *ist DS. A larger sensor body would have to trump that yet again by a good margin, since the DS body is doing mighty well already. of course, I'd then be in the opposite circumstance of having to upgrade my lens kit too, for larger, heavier, more expensive lenses to keep the same field of view options I have now. ]'-) Godfrey On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Tom C wrote: SO WHAT! You wouldn't pay $350 - 400 more for a FF Pentax body? I certainly would... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On 7/9/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: When Photoshop is upgraded to a Universal Binary, or Lightroom goes final, there will be powerful incentive for me to upgrade the G5 to a Mac Pro tower... ! I'll continue to run Mac OS X though as Windows gives me a headache. ;-) This is good news Godders. One of the things I will be setting up is a vehicle-based non-linear edit system and as I already use Final Cut Pro, that's the way I was headed. However, I may be asked at some point in the future to have Avid Newscutter available (PC only) and a powerful G5 Mac will allow me to choose both software. Blooming marvellous :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The next version of Mac OS X will have what is now Boot Camp embedded and will be able to run both OSes without having to add anything at all. I do contracting work on Apple systems and Mac OS X system administration. Not one person who has purchased an Apple Intel-based system - Mini, iMac, MacBook Pro, MacBook, or Mac Pro - has complained that they bought the wrong system to date, whether they came from Mac OS X or Windows background. There have certainly been some glitches but all have been resolvable to their satisfaction with very little effort. Thats good to hear. There is a big meeting here at work Friday, restructure and re orginizing, so i may or may not be in a position to buy anything just yet(sort of a vbg) When Photoshop is upgraded to a Universal Binary, or Lightroom goes final, there will be powerful incentive for me to upgrade the G5 to a Mac Pro tower... ! I'll continue to run Mac OS X though as Windows gives me a headache. ;-) It does me to lately. Want the number of my ear candle lady. It helps. :-) Dave Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
With the release date approaching so close, it is very conceivable that distributors/retailers already got documentations and if you are persistent/insistent, you might be able to get it :-). - I wish I could draw. I have in my mind a cartoon. The scene is somewhere up in the clouds. The clouds are populated by the Pentax managers dressed as Greek gods and goddesses. Zeus-san is dropping a handful of leaflets to earth. The leaflets give details of the K10D, but also warn that if the reader discloses the details, he or she will be struck by a bolt of lightning. Zeus-san is chuckling to himself, saying Watch now how they will start fighting among themselves. Down on earth, diminutive creatures are scurrying back and forth, trying to get one of the leaflets. I wish I could draw. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
I don't think economics is your strong suit. :-) The considerably higher price you quote will drastically reduce demand, which will impinge on economies of scale, and mean that the price you quote won't be profitable. So it'll have to be higher, which will reduce demand more. A vicious circle will set in. There used to be three firms making full frame SLRs. Now there is one, and I would guess things will stay that way for quite a while. John On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:08:00 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 01:00:35 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Those still holding out for a FF Pentax please note. John So, because one component (probably the most expensive) costs 10x more (plus associated costs) the whole unit is twice the price. Seems like a bargain to me. Pentax can knock the DL/2 out (with two lenses) for £500. Give me that with FF and you can throw the mechanical actuator in as well. I'll pay £1500. The LX, body only, got to more than that in the UK. On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:46:41 +0100, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much info is available on the sensor cost, and this is one of them. At least the authour, who claimed to have worked in the semicon industry for years, is fairly definitive. But he is referring to 200mm wafer which is a bit outdated. It must be at least 300mm now. The article is dated Sept 2006 though. Anyway, FF sensor cost is interesting http://www.naturescapes.net/092006/ej0906.htm Ken -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On 9/7/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll need one of the new Mac Pro or MacBook Pro's, not a G5, which won't run the PC software. Any current-production Apple system will run them. Apple has transitioned over to all-Intel processors. MacBook (core solo/duo) MacBook pro (core duo) iMac (core 2 duo. Brand new. VERY attractive). Mac Pro (dual-core Xeon processors) They're all very significantly faster than their older G4/G5 equivalents. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Independence, CO
Especially like the last (split rail fence) shot. Composition well done. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice work again Gaoug. Since i'm a split rail fence and log guy, the last two are my favorites. Gotta get out more.:-) Dave Quoting Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.alphoto.com/co06/page1.htm Very nice shots, Doug. I especially like the one looking down on the river in the valley. I /really/ have to get out to that part of the world one of these days. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
Cotty wrote: On 7/9/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: When Photoshop is upgraded to a Universal Binary, or Lightroom goes final, there will be powerful incentive for me to upgrade the G5 to a Mac Pro tower... ! I'll continue to run Mac OS X though as Windows gives me a headache. ;-) This is good news Godders. One of the things I will be setting up is a vehicle-based non-linear edit system and as I already use Final Cut Pro, that's the way I was headed. However, I may be asked at some point in the future to have Avid Newscutter available (PC only) and a powerful G5 Mac will allow me to choose both software. Blooming marvellous :-) Cotty, You'll need one of the new Mac Pro or MacBook Pro's, not a G5, which won't run the PC software. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
:-D mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 03:48:43 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. I read the article and the photographers own words give me the impression that she's out of touch with reality, in some ways. Most people in society have been conditioned to see images such as these as child abuse. However she got a lot of free publicity out of it.and since California seems to have become just a large extension of Hollywood, I guess down deep she's, if not enjoying it, benefiting by it. Just remember the old adage, It doesn't matter what they print, as long as they spell my name right! Greneburg she is, then. David Savage wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) Cheers, Dave -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
I was trying to make images that made you feel something, because we are so inundated with images in our culture that oftentimes people dont feel anything. It seems to me that she is another of these people who think they are the only ones who feel things, rather like that stupid woman who promoted 'No Photography Day' because she claimed people weren't 'in the moment'. We are indeed inundated with images in our culture. Every day I can look at pictures of real children starving to death, being blown up by car bombs in Iraq, having their hands cut off by the Lord's Resistance Army, being worked to death making bricks or trainers, or being kept in a car inspection pit for 8 years. If this kind of thing doesn't make people feel, then I don't think a picture of some kid crying for candy will do it. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jostein Øksne Sent: 07 September 2006 12:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. Of course it is art. If the Times is right about how she obtained the photographs, it puts the blogger's reaction in a very tragic perspective. That one man, with access to a blog site and some skill in concocting a demagogic argument can mislead hundreds into attacking another person. Jostein On 9/7/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
Similar problem with the ibook. It would not run vers 2, but runs vers 1 peachy keen. Version 2 runs fine on the XP machine. Go fiqure. Dave Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Funny, 2 wouldn't install on my 98se machine even though 1 is installed. I have original CDs' for both the update and the CD instalation simply screwed up the installation for 1 and crashed every time I tried to run it thereafter untill I reinstalled 1. There must be something different... Microsoft says that every installation of windows is unique, or at least they used to. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
Funny, 2 wouldn't install on my 98se machine even though 1 is installed. I have original CDs' for both the update and the CD instalation simply screwed up the installation for 1 and crashed every time I tried to run it thereafter untill I reinstalled 1. There must be something different... Microsoft says that every installation of windows is unique, or at least they used to. mike wilson wrote: I've already got 2 installed. Just clicked on the .exe file and it it did it all by itself. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 03:25:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Firmware updates! What did you do to get it to install on 98se? More importantly what did you do to get Photolab 2 to install on 98se. Inquiring minds want t to know! mike wilson wrote: As a FWIW addendum, Pentax Lab 3, despite protestations to the contrary, works fine with Win OSs back to 98SE. Speeds things up nicely, too. m From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 03:38:48 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Firmware updates! SDHC for everyone! http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/ mike -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On Sep 7, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: They're all very significantly faster than their older G4/G5 equivalents. Actually Apple's benches on their site are worth nothing. If we would take in consideration the same count and clock speed of G5 and Intel processors - then there would be very little difference in real world speed. Dual core G5 2 GHz is about as fast as dual core Intel 2 GHz. Quad core G5 2.5GHz is only slightly slower than Quad Xeon 2.66 GHz: http://www.geekpatrol.ca/blog/135 Yes. The PowerPC chip set was always a better overall performer than the Intel equivalent. The problem that Apple is responding to with the move to Intel was lack of commitment on the part of the chip vendors (Motorola and IBM) to develop the PowerPC line in such a way as to pose a business advantage to Apple, not any lack in the current/ recent PowerPC offerings themselves. Even a PowerMac G5 2.0Ghz DP system is a stunningly capable, powerful system. Remember that I worked at Apple and was the Technology Manager for Development Tools. I was involved in this chip transition as far back as 1999 when it was a deep deep black project that I couldn't even tell my boss and his boss about, as it was being handled through the Hardware and OS/development tools groups exclusively until about 2003. If Apple wouldn't go Intel way, we would just see next generation of PowerMacs G5 as fast as Xeon based Macs Pro . The unfortunate truth is that getting a faster G5 was likely not going to happen in any reasonable time frame, where getting faster, better, improved Xeons/equivalents will likely happen sooner due to the amount of development dollars being dumped in that direction. That said, all of the last generation of chips (G5 post 2Ghz, Xeon, etc) have been disappointing compared to the original specification projection. It seems there is a threshold being approached at which it takes a lot more subtle and complex development work to go beyond the perceptible performance of this class of system. I'm sure we'll pass beyond this threshold sometime soon, but my bets are on the chip vendors who dump lots of money and time in that direction. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone running this....
On 7/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: You'll need one of the new Mac Pro or MacBook Pro's, not a G5, which won't run the PC software. Sorry, that's what I meant. Mac Pro. Thanks guv :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Royal Photo Op.
Get yourself up on the rooftop with one of these: http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/fs12/ -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: 07 September 2006 09:35 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Royal Photo Op. Today is a great day in my community. We are getting Royal visitors in our street. Håkon Magnus and Mette Marit are coming, and they are going to stop right next to our house. The gold smith right next to my house http://www.bergart.net/ are gone give them a present from her shop, and have a little chat with them. So now I have to decide. Do I place myself at the street, or do I hang out of my window at second floor? I haven't decided yet. If I'm lucky the window will give the best angle, but if they move a few steps in the wrong direction they will be out of sight. And I have to work fast because they want stay here for long. I might run safe and stay at street level. The only downside is that I have to go to work ten minutes after they arrive. Work is a drag. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- Schooner Passes Falkners Light III (variations)
Well one more different capture from the Schooner series, with three variations. After conversion to a Tiff, I used a moderate amount of noise reduction.. Then in Photoshop I tried something a little different, I tried the curves - options and set [Find Dark and Light Colors] with [Snap Neutral Tones]. I'm not sure I like the results in color but it made the BW conversion look a bit better. Well anyway. I'm interest in what people think. Due to the long distance there was a definite lack of contrast in the main subject of the image. Yes I know the horizon isn't exactly level. I'm going back to the original image to fix that before the ocean runs out, eventually... http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiii.html Note: As described. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiiibw.html Note: Starting with the Color version. I used a curves layer to brighten the mid tones, a second curves layer to impart a bit of a slight s curve on top of that, a Hue/Saturation layer to modify color response, (sort of a continuously variable color filter) and a second Hue/Saturation layer to simply remove all color, then a brightness/contrast layer to modify the overall contrast. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiiis.html Note: From the BW version converted to grey scale, I used a tritone method of sepia toning the image, using three different base colors for highlights, mid tones and shadows. Since the general consensus seemed to be that the last attempt was a bit heavy handed, probably because the highlights were too orange, I used a slightly different color for the highlights, it does look a bit more subtle, at least to my eye. Technical Data: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/1250sec (Av) smc Pentax A 300mm f4 SMC Pentax F 1.7x converter @ f11 -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
