Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/10/2007 9:28:20 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As an aside question: my  cheapskate challenge entry:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/misc/cheapskate.html -  was it sufficiently 
unclattered?

Also comparing the above content  with, say, this  link:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/shfaim/content/IGP01583_large.html

can  someone please tell me what is wrong with the latter?

I am serious here.  I do want to establish a standard way to present my 
work that will be  acceptable to the widest crowd  possible.

Thanks.

Boris


Both are fine. I  prefer, personally, the second. Because I like dark 
backgrounds for photos on  the web. In real life I like off white mats for 
pictures, 
but on the web I find  dark backgrounds less distracting. In other words, if 
it was me I'd make your  gray darker. But that is me.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  




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Re: PESO: fire spitter

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/10/2007 1:05:56 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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Fire  spitter:

http://leende.net/peso/20070409

Toine

===
Nice  shot. Very good timing. But, boy, he looks like he might set that 
valance over  him on fire.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  




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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/10/2007 7:21:19 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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Tomorrow I think I will look  into what Lightzone can do to this image. 

I've seen some video tutorials  about it. Looks as a program I could learn to
use. 
These tutorials made  me realise why I have this strong feelings against
editing in PS. It is all  about Layers. I get lost in them. The Layers
concept makes me loose the big  picture when editing. When editing on layers,
I don't see the impact of what  I do directly. At least not the way I have
been using them. 
Lightzone  seem to be more WYSIWYG. 

And there is no need to tell me. I know that PS  is more powerful than the
American President (at least it is more  intelligent), and that layers is the
best thing since whipped cream. I don't  need a powerful program. I need
something that sets _me_ in control.  


Tim Typo
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==
Layers are hard to get. I recommend a book for  understanding them. But, 
actually, you can edit a photo pretty well without  using layers at all. You 
just 
alter the background (what would be called the  background layer). Just be 
sure to save it with a new file name to not overwrite  the original. A 
selection 
tool would help you isolate the rock in that  particular photo. The magic want 
would be best.

Marnie aka  Doe   I am still learning various ins and outs of layers.  




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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread John Coyle
Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but found the 
metal buckles quickly wore the paint off.
If you could find a similar soft leather arrangement, maybe
HTH

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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Subject: Strap Lugs on K10D


 I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
 that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

 My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
 camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
 hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

 Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg

 The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
 rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
 from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.
 -- 

 Cheers,

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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/04/10 Tue PM 11:24:38 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters
 
 Cotty wrote:
 
  Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB
  on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
  
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/a85ineos.html
 
 OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page
 
 http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

Might be worth adding this link to your page.
http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/pentax.php


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Re: Pentaxs are UFOs

2007-04-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/04/10 Tue PM 11:02:41 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Pentaxs are UFOs
 
 On 11/04/07, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Almost every article I read or story I hear that uses the word sighting(s)
  involves UFOs or Bigfoot.
 
  Curious.
 
  Don't worry, I believe in Pentax...
 
  ...and in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and the Vargas Girls!
 
  I like my LX's  K10D's...
  ...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!
 
 Hi Bob,
 
 Good to see you back on list.
 
 You could always weld two current Pentax DSLRs vertically on a bracket
 and run an auto-stitch on the output files, changing lenses or any
 other setting would be a bit of an irritant though ;-)
 

But smaller and lighter than FF Canon..


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PESO - Another family snap

2007-04-11 Thread John Coyle
Not great photography, but a subject I like a lot - and the print looks 
terrific!

http://tinyurl.com/2kcu7d

Details on the page

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Re: Pentaxs are UFOs

2007-04-11 Thread David Mann
On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Bob Blakely wrote:

 I like my LX's  K10D's...
 ...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!

Elvis has one...

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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/4/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

 OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page
 
 http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

Might be worth adding this link to your page.
http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/pentax.php

Doug, also - this page is a superb reference:

http://www.vanwalree.com/optics/lenshood.html

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/07, Mike Hamilton, discombobulated, unleashed:

Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg


Ye gods, I don't like all that metalwork hanging around near the body.
My solution was to sew on some permanent short sections (ironically of
Pentax MX strap) to the body lug on one side, and use a wrist grip on
the other. I can then attach the neck strap at will.

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html

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OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Cotty
Click on the 'In Pictures' link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm

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RE: PESO: fire spitter

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
I like what I see here, You got the right moment of full action and the fire
is well exposed.
It looks like he sets the ceiling in fire since the photo looks a little
flat (2 dimensional), did you use a larger tele for that?
Greetings
Markus

 

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Fire spitter:

http://leende.net/peso/20070409

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RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Dough
Are you interested in all Pentax lenses/hood combinations or only for the
newest DA lenses? 
I use the Pentax A24mm with a metallic Vivitar wideangle hood 52mm, I have
the same looking hood as no name brand too.
The manual Tamron 90mm 2.5 macro and the Pentax-F 1.7 50mm are fitted with
old Takumar metallic hoods (1:1.8 55mm written on it) filter size 49mm.

It would be interesting as well IMHO to know which polarizer filter size
works with what lens on the DSLR's.
The B + W polarizer 52mm size works well with the Pentax A24mm on the K10D
without vignetteing here, on film bodies at 24mm it did not.

Greetings
Markus
 

  


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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:25 AM
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Cotty wrote:

 Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB
 on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
 
 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/a85ineos.html

OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page

http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

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PESO -- Church Tower, Near Wooster Square

2007-04-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I was bored, made this without much thought.  I liked it enough to try 
to wring a decent BW out of it.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_churchtower.html

Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/250 sec [Av]
smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Ltd. @ f8.0

BW conversion by Fotomatic BW-Plus, Red Filter Applied

As usual, comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_piano_fall/img/3.jpg

Bugger!

Cheers,

Dave

On 4/11/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Click on the 'In Pictures' link

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm

 h boy.

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Womans Voice:  But that was a priceless Steinway!

Clouseau: Nit iny mouahr (Not any more).

or for the full effect:

http://inspectorclouseau.com/sounds/piano.wav


Cotty wrote:
 Click on the 'In Pictures' link

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm

 h boy.

   


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RE: PESO - Another family snap

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
A touching moment, I like it.
But the web JPG photo is a bit too low in quality to really enjoy it, did
you try a b/w conversion as well?
Greetings
Markus 

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Subject: PESO - Another family snap

Not great photography, but a subject I like a lot - and the print looks 
terrific!

http://tinyurl.com/2kcu7d

Details on the page

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Mike,

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:30 -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote:

I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

Me too, I want to be able to remove the neck-strap easily ...

Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg

The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.

Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste, 
they WILL damage the camera after a while ...

I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19

The third row in that gallery shows details of the lugs.
The lugs are small enough to not be in the way
with the neck-strap removed ...


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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
...or:

http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Accessories/Camera_Straps/Speedster.aspx

Cheers,

Dave

On 4/11/07, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:30 -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote:

 I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
 that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.
 
 My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
 camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
 hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

 Me too, I want to be able to remove the neck-strap easily ...

 Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg
 
 The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
 rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
 from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.

 Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste,
 they WILL damage the camera after a while ...

 I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
 plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:

 http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19

 The third row in that gallery shows details of the lugs.
 The lugs are small enough to not be in the way
 with the neck-strap removed ...

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/04/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...or:

 http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Accessories/Camera_Straps/Speedster.aspx

...or

http://www.tamrac.com/g_camerastraps.htm  (I use a combo of N-45 and
N15 straps on all my cameras and cases, so all my straps are
interchangeable)

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

Click on the 'In Pictures' link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm

h boy.

If they look underneath it I bet they'll find a coyote ;-)
Beep! Beep!


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Re: PESO -- Church Tower, Near Wooster Square

2007-04-11 Thread Brian Walters
I like it. It has a very sombre feel.

I also like the branches framing the tower on the right, although I'd like the 
composition more if the lower ones weren't encroaching on the tower.



Cheers

Brian

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Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I was bored, made this without much thought.  I liked it enough to
 try 
 to wring a decent BW out of it.
 
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_churchtower.html
 
 Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/250 sec [Av]
 smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Ltd. @ f8.0
 
 BW conversion by Fotomatic BW-Plus, Red Filter Applied
 
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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
On 4/11/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cotty wrote:

 Click on the 'In Pictures' link
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
 
 h boy.

 If they look underneath it I bet they'll find a coyote ;-)
 Beep! Beep!

LOL.

I actually heard that in my minds ear.

Cheers,

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RE: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Godfrey.
Please don't ask those questions. You know I have a thing about PS. It
might be irrational. In fact I believe it is. I think have got the wrong
impression about it. 

The facts are simple. I gets lost in PS. It confuses and thereby disables
me. I believe it is about layers. It may be about layers in general, or
about layers in PS. But that's not important. 
My explanation about my thing may be wrong. It may also be based on
misunderstandings. But the real facts remain. I feel stupid instead of
enabled when using PS.
I think I want know what the problem is before I have solved it. 

I know you mean well by asking. If you where in front of me, you could have
showed me where I have got it wrong. But asked on the net, your question
simply makes me feel stupider. And that does not help me. It makes me more
disabled. I know that's not your intentions, but that’s how it works. 

You know I like Lightroom. It enables me. The real reason is because it is
powerful, and simple. It doesn't confuse me. So now I'm able to do a decent
job when converting raw. So now conversion is fun ;-)
I had the same feeling with RSP. It enabled me. But Lightroom enables me
more. 

I hope I will experience the same with Lightzone. Basically I understands
the good old zone system. Layers or not, with Lightzone I will be able to do
the adjustments to that rock in a way that I do understand. 
Now I need to get moving towards my goal; being a happy and skilful editor.
Not debating my thing.

I might move back again later. I don't know. At this point I don't care ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 These tutorials made me realise why I have this strong feelings  
 against
 editing in PS. It is all about Layers. I get lost in them. The Layers
 concept makes me loose the big picture when editing. When editing  
 on layers,
 I don't see the impact of what I do directly. At least not the way  
 I have
 been using them.

Which begs the question: How have you been using Photoshop layers  
that you don't see the impact of what you do directly?

BTW, LightZone's operation is based on making adjustments using  
function modules and layering them on top of one another... It's just  
like using Adjustment Layers in Photoshop.

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Official Press releases (was: Storm on the Hoya-Pentax merge)

2007-04-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20070410-01.pdf

http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20070410-02.pdf

Dario

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 News here:
 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080sid=a8aPwjcZNgvsrefer=asia

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Re: PESO - Another family snap

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice pic. Thanks for sharing. I enjoy seeing a bit of how others on  
the list live.
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 3:53 AM, John Coyle wrote:

 Not great photography, but a subject I like a lot - and the print  
 looks
 terrific!

 http://tinyurl.com/2kcu7d

 Details on the page

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
My edits are done as non-destructively as possible. The only things I
do to the original background layer (or more correctly a copy of) is
spotting dust, cloning in or out details as needed  sharpening. And
recently I haven't always been doing my sharpening to the background
layer (or it's copy).

Everything else is done with adjustment layers.

Cheers,

Dave

On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I generally retouch in PS without adjustment layers. I almost always
 know exactly what I want to do, and if I change my mind, I simply
 flip back in the history. I'm not modifying the original, the RAW is
 still on file with all my adjustment parameters intact. For big
 retouching jobs, layers are great. For minor adjustment of
 photographs, they're unnecessary.
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Re: PESO: fire spitter

2007-04-11 Thread Toine
Thanks everyone for looking and commenting. No, he didn't set the roof on fire.
The timing was possible with continuous drive mode, the istD was in
auto everything mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] f/8 1/800. All I needed to do was frame
the shot.

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I generally retouch in PS without adjustment layers. I almost always  
know exactly what I want to do, and if I change my mind, I simply  
flip back in the history. I'm not modifying the original, the RAW is  
still on file with all my adjustment parameters intact. For big  
retouching jobs, layers are great. For minor adjustment of  
photographs, they're unnecessary.
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


 On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 These tutorials made me realise why I have this strong feelings
 against
 editing in PS. It is all about Layers. I get lost in them. The Layers
 concept makes me loose the big picture when editing. When editing
 on layers,
 I don't see the impact of what I do directly. At least not the way
 I have
 been using them.

 Which begs the question: How have you been using Photoshop layers
 that you don't see the impact of what you do directly?

 BTW, LightZone's operation is based on making adjustments using
 function modules and layering them on top of one another... It's just
 like using Adjustment Layers in Photoshop.

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a similar releasable strap made by Tamarac. No cobbling  
necessary:-).
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, David Savage wrote:

 ...or:

 http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Accessories/Camera_Straps/ 
 Speedster.aspx

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 4/11/07, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:30 -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote:

 I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
 that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

 My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
 camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
 hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

 Me too, I want to be able to remove the neck-strap easily ...

 Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg

 The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
 rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
 from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.

 Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste,
 they WILL damage the camera after a while ...

 I used a short loop of an old strap (much like Cotty I guess :-)
 plus some non-scratching 'carabine' aluminium hooks:

 http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=19

 The third row in that gallery shows details of the lugs.
 The lugs are small enough to not be in the way
 with the neck-strap removed ...

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice and very professional, but I don't see the point in that. If I  
have my original conversion, I don't need an original background  
layer. Plus, storing those multi-layer files sucks up hard drive  
space in a hurry.
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:40 AM, David Savage wrote:

 My edits are done as non-destructively as possible. The only things I
 do to the original background layer (or more correctly a copy of) is
 spotting dust, cloning in or out details as needed  sharpening. And
 recently I haven't always been doing my sharpening to the background
 layer (or it's copy).

 Everything else is done with adjustment layers.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I generally retouch in PS without adjustment layers. I almost always
 know exactly what I want to do, and if I change my mind, I simply
 flip back in the history. I'm not modifying the original, the RAW is
 still on file with all my adjustment parameters intact. For big
 retouching jobs, layers are great. For minor adjustment of
 photographs, they're unnecessary.
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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
If I'm going to take the time to do it, I may as well do it in such a
way that if I ever have to modify it I don't have to do it all over
again. This is particularly true for images that have required complex
masking.

It's a carryover philosophy from my paying job.

Cheers,

Dave

On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice and very professional, but I don't see the point in that. If I
 have my original conversion, I don't need an original background
 layer. Plus, storing those multi-layer files sucks up hard drive
 space in a hurry.
 Paul
 On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:40 AM, David Savage wrote:

  My edits are done as non-destructively as possible. The only things I
  do to the original background layer (or more correctly a copy of) is
  spotting dust, cloning in or out details as needed  sharpening. And
  recently I haven't always been doing my sharpening to the background
  layer (or it's copy).
 
  Everything else is done with adjustment layers.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave
 
  On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I generally retouch in PS without adjustment layers. I almost always
  know exactly what I want to do, and if I change my mind, I simply
  flip back in the history. I'm not modifying the original, the RAW is
  still on file with all my adjustment parameters intact. For big
  retouching jobs, layers are great. For minor adjustment of
  photographs, they're unnecessary.
  Paul

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/04/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice and very professional, but I don't see the point in that. If I
 have my original conversion, I don't need an original background
 layer. Plus, storing those multi-layer files sucks up hard drive
 space in a hurry.

Adjustment layers don't generally consume great deals of file space
(unless masks are also saved). I prefer to save the whole job too.

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Jack Davis
LOL

Jack
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cotty wrote:
 
 Click on the 'In Pictures' link
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
 
 h boy.
 
 If they look underneath it I bet they'll find a coyote ;-)
 Beep! Beep!
 
 
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PESOs Square

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
I've been revisiting some older images of late and have rediscovered
the joys of the square format.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP17487.jpg
Menindee Lakes 2005 *ist D (rescued from my discards folder)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP0183.jpg
Dragon Fly 2007 W20

Comments and critiques appreciated but not required.

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Womer
It sonata good thing...


--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Click on the 'In Pictures' link
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
 
 h boy.
 
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Mike Hamilton
  Hmm, too much sharp metal for my taste,
  they WILL damage the camera after a while ...

There is some slight paint wear on the lugs, but that's not something
that concerns me.  The key rings will not affect any other bit on the
camera.


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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Jack Davis
The poor devils!

Jack
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Click on the 'In Pictures' link
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
 
 h boy.
 
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Re: Official Press releases (was: Storm on the Hoya-Pentax merge)

2007-04-11 Thread Thibouille
Thanks Dario.

2007/4/11, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20070410-01.pdf

 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20070410-02.pdf

 Dario

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  News here:
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080sid=a8aPwjcZNgvsrefer=asia
 
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Waaay OT: International Louie Louie Day

2007-04-11 Thread dglenn
Not at all germane to the list, but something tells me a few of you
will get a kick out of this nonetheless.  Via the Clan MacAthair
mailing list:

| Today is a very special day of celebration.
| 
| Today, April 11 is INTERNATIONAL LOUIE LOUIE Day!
| 
| While no country has actually made any kind of official declaration, and
| there have been no mandated holidays that I know of, that shouldn't stop you
| from using the time to celebrate this very special day.
| 
| Why today, of all days?
| 
| 1)  Richard Berry, the author of this song, was born on April 11, 1935.
| 
| 2) His original recording of LOUIE LOUIE was released during the week of
| April 13, 1957, which means this song is 50 years old!
| 
| 3) The Kingsmen recorded their version of LOUIE LOUIE on April 6, 1963.
| 
| 4) On April 10, 1998, The Kingsmen regained their original recordings back
| from the record companies that refused to pay them ANY royalties, despite
| the millions of sales.
| 
| There's some other great moments in LOUIE LOUIE history attached around this
| time in April, but I think it's best that you read the rest of this
| information for yourself at the LOUIE REPORT blog.
| 
| The latest blog posting is formatted like a comic strip with fun graphics,
| word ballooons, and goofy humor.  I hope you enjoy it.
| 
| So today - enjoy INTERNATIONAL LOUIE LOUIE DAY!
| 
| Dancing is strongly recommended!
| 
| . me gotta go now .
| 
| ERIC PREDOEHL
| http://www.louielouie.net/blog/
| ...
| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
| You can automatically subscribe/unsubscribe to
| THE LOUIE REPORT, the Louie Louie newsletter,
| thanks to the robotic helpers at our website,
| http://www.louielouie.net/16-subscribe.htm
| 
| LouieLouie.Net is a production of Octalouie LLC.
| 
| Octalouie LLC is firmly against internet pollution,
| be it spam, chain letters, computer viruses, or other
| types of high-tech annoyances.
| 
| For more information on the subject, please visit:
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Re: PESO: Columns in Black and White

2007-04-11 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
I like the conversion.

On 4/10/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't done a lot of black and white conversion but this one turned out 
 quite well (I think) - certainly a lot better than the original colour 
 version.

 Comments, plaudits, raspberries all accepted with thanks.


 http://picasaweb.google.com/supera1000/PESO/photo?authkey=X7kmHo_6wyc#5051589714743686082


 http://tinyurl.com/27zfax


 The Mint, an historic building in Sydney dating from the early 1800s - Pentax 
 *istDS with Pentax DA 16-45 mm zoom lens at 40 mm, 1/350 sec, f11 and ISO 200.



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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Bet they are all keyed up...
Norm

Rick Womer wrote:
 It sonata good thing...


 --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Click on the 'In Pictures' link


 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
   

   


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Re: PESOs Square

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
On 4/11/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been revisiting some older images of late and have rediscovered
 the joys of the square format.

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP17487.jpg
 Menindee Lakes 2005 *ist D (rescued from my discards folder)

Nice, but might I suggest a slightly darker sky. (I like contrasty BW though)

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP0183.jpg
 Dragon Fly 2007 W20

Very Noice.

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
As I noted, I understand that as a PhotoShop pro you would want to  
work that way. All the professional retouchers I know use multiple  
layers. However, as a photographer who just wants to perform some  
minor tweaks on an image that has already received considerable  
attention in conversion, I don't find it necessary or fruitful. I  
think some photographers who could benefit from the workflow  
convenience and capability of the ACR PS combination are scared away  
by all the talk of layers, masking and elaborate procedures.
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:01 AM, David Savage wrote:

 If I'm going to take the time to do it, I may as well do it in such a
 way that if I ever have to modify it I don't have to do it all over
 again. This is particularly true for images that have required complex
 masking.

 It's a carryover philosophy from my paying job.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice and very professional, but I don't see the point in that. If I
 have my original conversion, I don't need an original background
 layer. Plus, storing those multi-layer files sucks up hard drive
 space in a hurry.
 Paul
 On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:40 AM, David Savage wrote:

 My edits are done as non-destructively as possible. The only  
 things I
 do to the original background layer (or more correctly a copy of) is
 spotting dust, cloning in or out details as needed  sharpening. And
 recently I haven't always been doing my sharpening to the background
 layer (or it's copy).

 Everything else is done with adjustment layers.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I generally retouch in PS without adjustment layers. I almost  
 always
 know exactly what I want to do, and if I change my mind, I simply
 flip back in the history. I'm not modifying the original, the  
 RAW is
 still on file with all my adjustment parameters intact. For big
 retouching jobs, layers are great. For minor adjustment of
 photographs, they're unnecessary.
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Re: Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson 
Subject: Re: Re: OT - ouch


 Should've used more chord.

They are in treble now.

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Re: Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread mike wilson
Should've used more chord.
 
 From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Bet they are all keyed up...
 Norm
 
 Rick Womer wrote:
  It sonata good thing...
 
 
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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Scott Loveless
I bet that pianissimo expensive than they ever imagined.

mike wilson wrote:
 Should've used more chord.
   
 From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bet they are all keyed up...
 Norm

 Rick Womer wrote:
 
 It sonata good thing...


 --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   
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Re: PESOs Square

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, they both work well as square images. I like the tonal range of  
the first shot. Very nice. The dragonfly background is a bit busy,  
but the image of the creature is so excellent it overcomes its  
environment.
Paul
On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 I've been revisiting some older images of late and have rediscovered
 the joys of the square format.

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP17487.jpg
 Menindee Lakes 2005 *ist D (rescued from my discards folder)

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP0183.jpg
 Dragon Fly 2007 W20

 Comments and critiques appreciated but not required.

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Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs

2007-04-11 Thread Christian
Digital Image Studio wrote:
 
 Well I did think about all you guys, Dave is common as muck amongst my
 family and friends as is Willy, so Tom won ;-)
 

Am I the only person to name their kid after one of the greatest cameras 
ever made: Alex (not Alexis or Alexandra; just Alex  as in LX) :-)

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread David Savage
On 4/11/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I noted, I understand that as a PhotoShop pro you would want to
 work that way.

Pro? Not me, I'm still learning the many paths of tweaking in PS.

I'm a draftsman by day. The philosophy at work I mentioned has to do
with never deleting anything you have spent time drawing/detailing,
that have been superseded by design modifications or revisions until
the job is well and truly over. You never know if it might come in
useful (and at times is has)

 All the professional retouchers I know use multiple
 layers. However, as a photographer who just wants to perform some
 minor tweaks on an image that has already received considerable
 attention in conversion, I don't find it necessary or fruitful. I
 think some photographers who could benefit from the workflow
 convenience and capability of the ACR PS combination are scared away
 by all the talk of layers, masking and elaborate procedures.
 Paul

I admit it's probably overkill. In the past I didn't keep my original
edits, just the resultant .tiff or .jpg, and have gone back and tried
to recreate the feel of the original without success. That's when I
started keeping the original un-flattened .psd file.

Simple edits are where Lightroom shines. But for me a simple edit or a
complex edit only differ in extra time invested and the number of
layers and masks I use.


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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Tim,

I did not mean to spike a phobia. I'm just curious how you work with  
PS that finds you so confused.

Since adopting Lightroom as the basis of my photo workflow/image  
processing, how I work with Photoshop and other image processing  
tools has changed. I can do most of the essential adjustments,  
cropping, and spotting work in Lightroom non-destructively, down to  
the point were there might be a couple of essential localized edits  
to tonal rendering or sharpening required. I then render a PSD file,  
created in the same place as the .DNG, which opens in Photoshop.  
(E.g.: IMGP1001.dng - IMGP1001-Edit.psd)

I find it easier to confine selective tonal edits to Adjustment  
Layers with masks rather than laboriously doing selections and  
localizing the edits that way. Because Lightroom does such a good job  
overall, it rarely requires more than one or two layers to get what I  
need done. If the edit is particularly complex, I save another copy  
of the fully layered .PSD in the same directory (e.g.: IMGP1001- 
EditL.psd). Then I flatten all layers, save the -Edit file, and  
return to Lightroom where it is stacked with the original for  
simplicity in organization.

The same workflow methodology will work with LightZone Basic, if  
that's the image editor you prefer instead of Photoshop. I see that  
LightCraft is offering a discounted version of LightZone Basic  
specifically for Lightroom and Aperture users ... I may well go for  
that. In my evaluation of RAW converters and editing tools, I found  
LightZone's tonal adjustment tools quite interesting and useful. The  
tool paradigm is very different from Photoshop, yes, but the layered- 
filter working methodology is essentially the same.

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working in layers like this just far simpler and easier to do than  
directly manipulating pixels. Whatever works for you is best.

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Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 11, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Christian wrote:

 Well I did think about all you guys, Dave is common as muck  
 amongst my
 family and friends as is Willy, so Tom won ;-)

 Am I the only person to name their kid after one of the greatest  
 cameras
 ever made: Alex (not Alexis or Alexandra; just Alex  as in LX) :-)

I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after  
the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she  
reached their majority.

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Roberts



Scott Loveless wrote:

Clearly, moving heavy objects is not their forte.

I bet that pianissimo expensive than they ever imagined.

mike wilson wrote:
 Should've used more chord.
   
 From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bet they are all keyed up...

 Rick Womer wrote:
 
 It sonata good thing...

 --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Click on the 'In Pictures' link
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm


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Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after
 the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she
 reached their majority.

I have a friend named Elmar (after the Leica lens), he seems pretty
well balanced and not at all angry ;-)

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K10D review

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
A good review of the K10D and it's pro and cons at: 

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/K10D/K10DA.HTM

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread graywolf
You know a few words would go a long way towards letting folks know if 
they wanted to read an article about an expensive piano falling off a 
truck.

Going by the news article: I would think that the mover would be 
responsible for replacing the thing. Although, IMNSHO, anyone who would 
have a $75000 (my wild guess at the exchange rate) piano moved in an 
open truck deserves to lose it. Probably were not willing to pay what it 
cost to have experts move it. I would not be surprised if the insurance 
people refused to pay anyway.

-graywolf


Cotty wrote:
 Click on the 'In Pictures' link
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
 
 h boy.
 

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PESO:Tamron SP F2.8 70-150mm SoftFocus test shots on the K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Pentaxians

Against a uniform background like the blue sky or grass the Tamron SP
70-150mm Soft Focus portrait zoom produces a nice dreamy look at F2.8-4.0.
If the background is too busy it shows quite a harsh rendering.

Two uncropped photos for you to show the soft focus effect on the K10D at
F4. ISO 100 and  1/500 and 1/90 sec  + B+W polarizer and soft focus ring
setting 2 of 3:

http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/tamronsoft1.jpg

http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/tamronsoft2.jpg

As a normal  very fast zoom the Tamron + KA adaptall2 adapter produced again
some wonderful photos in the last days on the K10 for me.
Despite the weight I can really recommend this lens.


Comments welcome
Greetings
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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/11/2007 1:40:52 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Click on the 'In Pictures'  link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm

h  boy.

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 good.

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Re: PESO -- Church Tower, Near Wooster Square

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/11/2007 3:48:25 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was bored, made  this without much thought.  I liked it enough to try 
to wring a decent  BW out of  it.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_churchtower.html

Pentax  *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/250 sec [Av]
smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Ltd. @  f8.0

BW conversion by Fotomatic BW-Plus, Red Filter  Applied

As usual, comments are welcome but may be totally  ignored.

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RE: Official Press releases (was: Storm on the Hoya-Pentax merge)

2007-04-11 Thread Tom C
Release 2 seems odd.  It seems to indicate that Urano is still with the 
company as a Director.



Tom C.



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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:27:23 +0200

http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20070410-01.pdf

http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20070410-02.pdf

Dario

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  News here:
  
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080sid=a8aPwjcZNgvsrefer=asia
 
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Re: PESO - Another family snap

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/11/2007 12:54:31 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not great photography,  but a subject I like a lot - and the print looks  
terrific!

http://tinyurl.com/2kcu7d

Details on the  page

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia 

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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/04/07, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bet they scaled down their program

Though I'd bet its last performance ended with quite a fortississimo

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What I'm doing this Sunday

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Going to see every photo ever to win a Pulitzer prize:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07100/776521-42.stm

I'm really looking forward to this. I've been so busy with work that I 
haven't had time for any photographic extracurricular activities for 
months.

Good link within the above article, by the way: 
http://www.post-gazette.com/rial/
It's about a former Post-Gazette photographer.

I hope to post a report to the list some time next week.

I posted this link a couple of weeks ago but I'l do so again here. 
http://www.pghhistory.org/pulitzer.asp
Show runs through August 5 so if anyone is in the neighborhood before 
then and wants to see it, please drop me a note.


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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Womer
Indeed. Cross them off the Liszt.

 
 Scott Loveless wrote:
 
 Clearly, moving heavy objects is not their forte.
 
 I bet that pianissimo expensive than they ever
 imagined.
 
 mike wilson wrote:
  Should've used more chord.

  From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Bet they are all keyed up...
 
  Rick Womer wrote:
  
  It sonata good thing...
 
  --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Click on the 'In Pictures' link
  
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm
 
 
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Re: PESO: Columns in Black and White

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Great shot...especially for a conversion.
Norm

Brian Walters wrote:
 I haven't done a lot of black and white conversion but this one turned out 
 quite well (I think) - certainly a lot better than the original colour 
 version.

 Comments, plaudits, raspberries all accepted with thanks.


 http://picasaweb.google.com/supera1000/PESO/photo?authkey=X7kmHo_6wyc#5051589714743686082


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Re: PESO: fire spitter

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Bitchin'
Norm

Toine wrote:
 Fire spitter:

 http://leende.net/peso/20070409

 Toine

   


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RE: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
I know you didn't mean to spike anything ;-)

I like the word phobia. I think that’s an accurate description. Like most
phobic reaction, this is hard to explain. That's the nature of a phobia, it
is something beyond rationalisation. 

Ok. Some are afraid of spiders. I'm afraid of PS. Now I've said it. It is a
first step. 
Now it is time to confront myself with the object of my fears. In a safe
controlled environment. That’s usually the best treat for phobias. 

And for some reason the layers in Lightzone seem less scary. So that’s my
controlled environment. 


Tim Typo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: 11. april 2007 16:21
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Subject: Re: PESO: Memories of spring

Tim,

I did not mean to spike a phobia. I'm just curious how you work with  
PS that finds you so confused.

Since adopting Lightroom as the basis of my photo workflow/image  
processing, how I work with Photoshop and other image processing  
tools has changed. I can do most of the essential adjustments,  
cropping, and spotting work in Lightroom non-destructively, down to  
the point were there might be a couple of essential localized edits  
to tonal rendering or sharpening required. I then render a PSD file,  
created in the same place as the .DNG, which opens in Photoshop.  
(E.g.: IMGP1001.dng - IMGP1001-Edit.psd)

I find it easier to confine selective tonal edits to Adjustment  
Layers with masks rather than laboriously doing selections and  
localizing the edits that way. Because Lightroom does such a good job  
overall, it rarely requires more than one or two layers to get what I  
need done. If the edit is particularly complex, I save another copy  
of the fully layered .PSD in the same directory (e.g.: IMGP1001- 
EditL.psd). Then I flatten all layers, save the -Edit file, and  
return to Lightroom where it is stacked with the original for  
simplicity in organization.

The same workflow methodology will work with LightZone Basic, if  
that's the image editor you prefer instead of Photoshop. I see that  
LightCraft is offering a discounted version of LightZone Basic  
specifically for Lightroom and Aperture users ... I may well go for  
that. In my evaluation of RAW converters and editing tools, I found  
LightZone's tonal adjustment tools quite interesting and useful. The  
tool paradigm is very different from Photoshop, yes, but the layered- 
filter working methodology is essentially the same.

It seems that unlike some others, I find the conceptual model of  
working in layers like this just far simpler and easier to do than  
directly manipulating pixels. Whatever works for you is best.

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off list for a bit

2007-04-11 Thread ann sanfedele
Going up to boston to visit my friend' Nora's daughter - then to a 
tournament - not time to read mail so I'm
unsubbing for a few days...  I might not even have any web access at all 
til I get home...

See ya later guys

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Re: Easter bestiary

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Wow! I'll have to add that to my must-see list...
Norm

Bob W wrote:
 Mountains, yes. We also have an Alp about 2-3 miles north of me:
 http://www.citiesofscience.co.uk/go/London/ContentPlace_1960.html
   


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Re: PESO: Prairie Pano

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Bill, I thought you finished your restoration on your house...
Norm

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 4/8/2007 8:38:09 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This is 2 shots using the A400/5.6  married together.
 The seam is kinda visible, I need to work on this technique  some  more.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/400pano.html

 Enjoy

 William  Robb

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Re: PESOs Square

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
Dragonfly is very cool...
Norm

Digital Image Studio wrote:
 I've been revisiting some older images of late and have rediscovered
 the joys of the square format.

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP17487.jpg
 Menindee Lakes 2005 *ist D (rescued from my discards folder)

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/IMGP0183.jpg
 Dragon Fly 2007 W20


   


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Re: off list for a bit

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Have a good trip, Ann!

G

On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:27 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 Going up to boston to visit my friend' Nora's daughter - then to a
 tournament - not time to read mail so I'm
 unsubbing for a few days...  I might not even have any web access  
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PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
 
A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made out of 5
photos.
I converted another raw single photo from the same series using Photomatix
to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to get a
natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my knowledge
of that software goes... 
I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.

Please enjoy:

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax A24mm,
ISO 100, 1/60 F4

Comments welcome
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Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread Jack Davis
I like its monochrome feel and quiet light. 

Jack
--- Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made
 out of 5
 photos.
 I converted another raw single photo from the same series using
 Photomatix
 to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to
 get a
 natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my
 knowledge
 of that software goes... 
 I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.
 
 Please enjoy:
 
 http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax
 A24mm,
 ISO 100, 1/60 F4
 
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If damage is character, well, I prefer less character in my equipment.

My solution to this problem is that I generally do without the  
neckstrap entirely and use a handstrap only. But there are times  
when  neckstrap might be useful, so I've adopted a solution similar  
to others in that I have a couple of short, soft links on the strap  
lugs to allow fitting a neckstrap with a quick release. It works well.

I don't know who made the neck strap I have: I've had it for about  
two decades and used it with all manner of cameras, but it has very  
nice, compact, strong quick releases that work well.

Godfrey

On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

 What's wrong with wearing the paint off...it gives your camera  
 character.
 Norm

 John Coyle wrote:
 Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but  
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RE: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
Thanks Jack for looking and commenting.
I need to get up more often very early in the morning or work until then to
get views like that.
The morning light near the lake is just wonderful and somehow new for me
because I'm more used to take photos in the later afternoon.
Greetings
Markus
 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:34 PM
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I like its monochrome feel and quiet light. 

Jack
--- Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made
 out of 5
 photos.
 I converted another raw single photo from the same series using
 Photomatix
 to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to
 get a
 natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my
 knowledge
 of that software goes... 
 I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.
 
 Please enjoy:
 
 http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax
 A24mm,
 ISO 100, 1/60 F4
 
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
What's wrong with wearing the paint off...it gives your camera character.
Norm

John Coyle wrote:
 Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but found the 
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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Norm Baugher
I forgot - I was thinking 6 x 7. Character  Damage
Norm

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 If damage is character, well, I prefer less character in my equipment.

 My solution to this problem is that I generally do without the  
 neckstrap entirely and use a handstrap only. But there are times  
 when  neckstrap might be useful, so I've adopted a solution similar  
 to others in that I have a couple of short, soft links on the strap  
 lugs to allow fitting a neckstrap with a quick release. It works well.

 I don't know who made the neck strap I have: I've had it for about  
 two decades and used it with all manner of cameras, but it has very  
 nice, compact, strong quick releases that work well.

 Godfrey

 On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

   
 What's wrong with wearing the paint off...it gives your camera  
 character.
 Norm

 John Coyle wrote:
 
 Mike - just a caution - I did a similar thing with my MZ-S, but  
 found the
 metal buckles quickly wore the paint off.
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Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Has kind of a Velvia feel to it, toned down a little.  It would make a 
nice somewhat off beat postcard or poster.  I like it.

Markus Maurer wrote:
  
 A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made out of 5
 photos.
 I converted another raw single photo from the same series using Photomatix
 to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to get a
 natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my knowledge
 of that software goes... 
 I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.

 Please enjoy:

 http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax A24mm,
 ISO 100, 1/60 F4

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Rob,

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:22:45 +1000, Digital Image Studio wrote:

On 11/04/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...or:

 http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Accessories/Camera_Straps/Speedster.aspx

...or

http://www.tamrac.com/g_camerastraps.htm  (I use a combo of N-45 and
N15 straps on all my cameras and cases, so all my straps are
interchangeable)

The problem with (most of ?) these ready made straps is that IF the
neck-strap part is detacable, the parts remaining on the camera
are WAY to large for comfort ...

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Re: GESO - Dogs on Holiday

2007-04-11 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Loved the second shot. I thought that the second dog was cloned ;-)



On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 4/9/2007 1:41:43 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/dogs_on_holiday

 I have just  come back from an Easter weekend on the Wairarapa
 coastline with some nice  images of a seldomly visited part of New
 Zealand.  Weather was a bit  iffy and there was a strong swell
 generating a constant sea mist.  Will  post some BW's that convey the
 autumn mood of the place later.  At  one point we were joined by a
 couple of huntaways on holiday (a sheepdog  breed - see
 http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/newzealandhuntaway.htm for  information).
 Actually they were from just up the road, but the farmer's  father was
 out from the UK and took the dogs out for a rare chance to  see
 somewherebeyond the front gate.

 Comments and critiques  welcome

 Alastair

 =
 #2 is incredibly nice, the dogs's  stances being almost identical -- and the
 leading lines with the footprints.  Unusual and very nice shot.

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Re: off list for a bit

2007-04-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Have Fun, Ann!

Boris

ann sanfedele wrote:
 Going up to boston to visit my friend' Nora's daughter - then to a 
 tournament - not time to read mail so I'm
 unsubbing for a few days...  I might not even have any web access at all 
 til I get home...
 
 See ya later guys
 
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Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread Bong Manayon
It's beautiful.  I guess it depends where you come from, it does not
looked tweaked or artificial from my perspective ... but then I rarely
get to see that around here (Philippines).

Bong

On 4/12/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has kind of a Velvia feel to it, toned down a little.  It would make a
 nice somewhat off beat postcard or poster.  I like it.

 Markus Maurer wrote:
 
  A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made out of 5
  photos.
  I converted another raw single photo from the same series using Photomatix
  to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to get a
  natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my knowledge
  of that software goes...
  I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.
 
  Please enjoy:
 
  http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax A24mm,
  ISO 100, 1/60 F4
 
  Comments welcome
  Greetings
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Re: Pentaxs are UFOs

2007-04-11 Thread Bob Blakely
Not to mention dealing with the paralax problem...

- Original Message - 
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On 11/04/07, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!
 
 Hi Bob,
 
 Good to see you back on list.
 
 You could always weld two current Pentax DSLRs vertically on a bracket
 and run an auto-stitch on the output files, changing lenses or any
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Re: off list for a bit

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
Have a good time.

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Tim,

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 I know you didn't mean to spike anything ;-)
 
 I like the word phobia. I think that’s an accurate description. Like most
 phobic reaction, this is hard to explain. That's the nature of a phobia, it
 is something beyond rationalisation. 
 
 Ok. Some are afraid of spiders. I'm afraid of PS. Now I've said it. It is a
 first step. 
 Now it is time to confront myself with the object of my fears. In a safe
 controlled environment. That’s usually the best treat for phobias. 
 
 And for some reason the layers in Lightzone seem less scary. So that’s my
 controlled environment. 

I once read some place on the net that working in PS one has to do it in 
layers in order not to destroy the original image. So I did for quite 
some time up until LR arrived. Then I took a look back and realized that 
I actually almost never (like in 99.99% of the cases) returned and 
re-edited the multi layer PSD files. So I went and flattened these mutli 
layer images making sure that the original file (either scanned negative 
or digital image) was available elsewhere. It saved me at least 10 GB of 
space and it somehow made my life easier. These days I don't edit in PS. 
I find that I can do *all * that _I_ want to do to with the image in LR.

Although I am not afraid of layers I never really mastered them. I 
understand the basic concept but I cannot say I am any proficient in 
this kind of editing. The way LR does it seems much more to my liking.

Whatever it is worth...

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Re: Pentaxs are UFOs

2007-04-11 Thread Bob Blakely
Still does!

He won't give it up though. He's too happy using it to snap photos of his 
alien friend's spawn on his UFO trips to places where no man has gone before 
(except him and Timothy Leary of course).

Regards,
Bob...

- Original Message - 
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Bob Blakely wrote:

 I like my LX's  K10D's...
 ...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!

 Elvis has one...

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Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread SJ
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:28:23 +0200
Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.
 
 Please enjoy:
 
 http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D, Pentax
 A24mm, ISO 100, 1/60 F4

hi markus,

hdr or not, that works, for me. has a beautiful feel to it...

regards, subash

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Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/11/2007 9:31:43 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A lovely sunrise over lake  Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made out of 5
photos.
I converted  another raw single photo from the same series using Photomatix
to a somehow  surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to get a
natural look  with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my knowledge
of that  software goes... 
I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of   look here.

Please  enjoy:

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg (172 KB) K10D,  Pentax A24mm,
ISO 100, 1/60 F4

Comments  welcome
Greetings
Markus

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That is lovely, Markus,  simply lovely. Very well done.

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PESO - Yosemite Color (Redux - Real Photo)

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
I've been looking over my photos from Yosemite,  taken last October, and some 
are a bit better than I thought. Nothing super  great, nothing Ansel Adamish, 
nothing near as good as I really  wanted...

Hey, this no disclaimer thing is tough. :-) Anyway, at the time  I was 
suffering a bit from high altitude, wanted to see everything, felt a bit  
rushed, 
and just over all didn't feel I did that well  photography-wise.

So nothing super fantastic, BUT I sort of like this.  :-) 

I have used significant highlight/shadow on this because the trees  were 
pretty dark.

This is very typical of Yosemite in the fall, lots of  dark pines, 
interspersed with brightly colored yellow-leaved trees (not sure  what they 
were). 
Mainly right next to the road, and about 1/4 of the road in  does have trees 
right 
next to it. So, what I am trying to say, it was incredibly  beautiful, dark, 
yellow, dark, yellow...

Typical Yosemite color anyway,  this time unartified, unmucked with. If you 
think I should bring up the shadows  more, just say  so.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/leaves.htm

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Re: PESO: color film for BW

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/4/2007 10:00:58 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like the image and I love  the note!

Boris
=
What he said. I didn't do all that to see  it, so I am obviously a photo 
philistine. But nice shot.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)


Juan Buhler wrote:
 Being spoiled by the amount of control  I get for BW conversions from
 the DSLRs, I decided to shoot some  color film while thinking bw.
 This was shot on Kodak Portra 160.  OT, since the camera was the M6
 with Summicron 50. Sorry.
  
 I'm happy with the result, and probably will be shooting this  way
 often. One of my MXs is loaded with Portra 400 right now.
  
 http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=749
 
  Note: the link goes to a 9000dpi, 16 bit tiff drum scan of the
 original  negative. To view, please download it, have it transferred to
 film, and  printed on fiber paper by a master printer. I suggest using
 Picto, in  Paris. If you don't do this, you don't GET to see my photo,
 and  OBVIOUSLY you don't CARE about photography at all.
 
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Re: PESO:sunrise over lake Zurich (surreal HDR)

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Perhaps a little over the top with regards to an accurate recording  
of the scene, but who cares? It is a lovely expression.

Godfrey

On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Markus Maurer wrote:

 A lovely sunrise over lake Zurich got me a (natural) panorama made  
 out of 5
 photos.
 I converted another raw single photo from the same series using  
 Photomatix
 to a somehow surreal scene. It would have been impossible for me to  
 get a
 natural look with that image in Photomatix as a HDR as far as my  
 knowledge
 of that software goes...
 I wonder if you like/dislike this artificial kind of  look here.

 Please enjoy:

 http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/sunrisehdr.jpg
 (172 KB) K10D, Pentax A24mm,
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Re: PESO - Yosemite Color (Redux - Real Photo)

2007-04-11 Thread Jack Davis
Very well seen and I think you hit the shadows exactly right. Good
contrast, yet adequate detail. I'd probably not, however, be able to
resist pumping the yellow slightly...but then, I'm weak. ;)

Jack
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been looking over my photos from Yosemite,  taken last October,
 and some 
 are a bit better than I thought. Nothing super  great, nothing Ansel
 Adamish, 
 nothing near as good as I really  wanted...
 
 Hey, this no disclaimer thing is tough. :-) Anyway, at the time  I
 was 
 suffering a bit from high altitude, wanted to see everything, felt a
 bit  rushed, 
 and just over all didn't feel I did that well  photography-wise.
 
 So nothing super fantastic, BUT I sort of like this.  :-) 
 
 I have used significant highlight/shadow on this because the trees 
 were 
 pretty dark.
 
 This is very typical of Yosemite in the fall, lots of  dark pines, 
 interspersed with brightly colored yellow-leaved trees (not sure 
 what they were). 
 Mainly right next to the road, and about 1/4 of the road in  does
 have trees right 
 next to it. So, what I am trying to say, it was incredibly 
 beautiful, dark, 
 yellow, dark, yellow...
 
 Typical Yosemite color anyway,  this time unartified, unmucked with.
 If you 
 think I should bring up the shadows  more, just say  so.
 
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/leaves.htm
 
 Comments  welcome.
 
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Re: PESO - Yosemite Color (Redux - Real Photo)

2007-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, this no disclaimer thing is tough. :-)

LOL ... still need to work at it, eh? ;-)

 ... I have used significant highlight/shadow on this because the trees
 were pretty dark. ...

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/leaves.htm

Excellent. A very nice balance of tonalities, light and dark, with a  
nice colorful pop to it. It seems slightly soft, but not soft that  
is unpleasant or blurred. The composition is pleasing too ... the  
tall trunks a stolid frame for all that colorful foliage.

A very nice photo!

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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood.

Just happen to have that hood  have no further need for it.

Anyone interested?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters


 On 4/10/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cotty wrote:

  Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. 
  PH-SB
  on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
 
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/a85ineos.html

 OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page

 http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

 For the DA 70, I use a Takumar 1:3.5/135 -- 1:5.6/200 hood.
 For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood.

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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread William Robb
Character  Damage  Norm

Excellent.
WW

- Original Message - 
From: Norm Baugher 
Subject: Re: Strap Lugs on K10D


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Re: PESO - Yosemite Color (Redux - Real Photo)

2007-04-11 Thread Tom C
I definitely like the colors and of course the subject.  Having taken many 
tree shots I'll give you a dose of my own self-criticism.  Don't take it 
personally as a severe critique. OK. :-)

I always have a problem with trees that are cutoff at both ends, top and 
bottom.  For some reason, to my eye, aesthetically one should always be able 
to see the tops or the bottoms of the trees, unless it is a total abstract 
shot or an extreme closeup.

My feeling about this is about the same as if you showed me a people shot 
with their heads and feet out of the frame.

I always strive to somehow have at least a total tree in my shots and if I 
can't, I'll generally opt for showing the entire trunk and losing part of 
the top as opposed to showing the top(s) with cutoff trunks.

It may just be my own personal aesthetics, but I've gradually come to these 
conclusions.

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From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO - Yosemite Color (Redux - Real Photo)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:39:21 -0700 (PDT)

Very well seen and I think you hit the shadows exactly right. Good
contrast, yet adequate detail. I'd probably not, however, be able to
resist pumping the yellow slightly...but then, I'm weak. ;)

Jack
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've been looking over my photos from Yosemite,  taken last October,
  and some
  are a bit better than I thought. Nothing super  great, nothing Ansel
  Adamish,
  nothing near as good as I really  wanted...
 
  Hey, this no disclaimer thing is tough. :-) Anyway, at the time  I
  was
  suffering a bit from high altitude, wanted to see everything, felt a
  bit  rushed,
  and just over all didn't feel I did that well  photography-wise.
 
  So nothing super fantastic, BUT I sort of like this.  :-)
 
  I have used significant highlight/shadow on this because the trees
  were
  pretty dark.
 
  This is very typical of Yosemite in the fall, lots of  dark pines,
  interspersed with brightly colored yellow-leaved trees (not sure
  what they were).
  Mainly right next to the road, and about 1/4 of the road in  does
  have trees right
  next to it. So, what I am trying to say, it was incredibly
  beautiful, dark,
  yellow, dark, yellow...
 
  Typical Yosemite color anyway,  this time unartified, unmucked with.
  If you
  think I should bring up the shadows  more, just say  so.
 
  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/leaves.htm
 
  Comments  welcome.
 
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Re: OT - ouch

2007-04-11 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer 
Subject: Re: OT - ouch


 Indeed. Cross them off the Liszt.
 

Bach to your cave, Womer.
You don't have a good Handel on this stuff.

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Re: PESO: Prairie Pano

2007-04-11 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Norm Baugher 
Subject: Re: PESO: Prairie Pano


 Bill, I thought you finished your restoration on your house...

This is a new project. A real fixer upper.
b...



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Re: Strap Lugs on K10D

2007-04-11 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 07:46:30PM -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote..
 I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
 that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

On my MX I have for the longest time used a similar hack, along
with a rubber anti-scratch tube around the metal bits.  The rubber
tube: a punctured race bicycle inner-tire.  Lasts forever ;-)

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