Re: GFM check list

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hey, Mark? I did half the Appalachian Trail with a day pack and a poly
>tarp. And, I started from Tampa. I was older then than you are now. I
>didn't even have a credit card. Am I a pansy?
>
>I spent a night on the rim of an ancient volcano in the Rockies, with
>only two sticks to rub together for equipment. Am I a pansy?
>
>I walked across the US from, DC to Portland, with my home on my back. Am
>I a pansy?

Yeah but that was all in the 1970s and you had one in your hair ;-)

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Re: I'm outta here

[ann sanfedele]

Tom C wrote:

>Funnily enough, I believe.
>
>You do realize, Ann, what you were missing out on, bypassing me by a couple 
>of hours.
>
>Tom C.
>

alas, yes

but there were problems as I recall - didn't WANT to miss it

a

>
>  
>
>>David Savage wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I didn't make it up. it's a real word (adverb).
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>ann verifies this in the 4th edition of the Scrabble Players dictionary :)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>  
>



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Re: I'm outta here

[ann sanfedele]

David - you clearly will have come the farthest worldwide.  Wheatfield 
wins if you only count North America

ann

David Savage wrote:

>On 5/24/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>On 5/23/07, Mark Roberts
>>
>>
>>
Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
was further away :)


>>On 23/5/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>>It is for me.:-)
>>>  
>>>
>>Who's travelling the longest distance this year? I gather there's an
>>Australian coming along  but I mean in the civilised world...
>>
>>
>
>Civilised?
>
>Hands up those who live in a barn/stable.
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave :-)
>
>  
>



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Re: I'm outta here

[David Savage]

On 5/24/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 5/23/07, Mark Roberts
>
> >> Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
> >> was further away :)
>
> On 23/5/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >It is for me.:-)
>
> Who's travelling the longest distance this year? I gather there's an
> Australian coming along  but I mean in the civilised world...

Civilised?

Hands up those who live in a barn/stable.



Cheers,

Dave :-)

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Christian]

Thanks, Beaker.  He WAS posing and hung around for a while picking up 
cow parts.  Two others flew in and out and landed on various perches 
over the course of an hour or so.  I shot over 100 frames of them.

What looks like a bad toupee is the crest in the lowered position.  :-)
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Beaker wrote:
> Really nice photo! Nice pose, if that is the right word. Did he stay  
> still for long?
> Is it just me, or is the bird wearing a bad toupee?
> 
> Cheers
> Beaker
> 
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Christian wrote:
> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v


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Re: GFM check list

[Christian]

Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
> Last time I checked, the southern start for the Appalachian trail was 
> Springer Mountain in Georgia.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: GFM check list
> 
> 
>> Hey, Mark? I did half the Appalachian Trail with a day pack and a poly 
>> tarp. And, I started from Tampa. I was older then than you are now. I 
>> didn't even have a credit card. Am I a pansy?

Bill Bryson did part of the trail and managed to sleep in a lot of 
hotels along the way.  He's a pansy (and would fully admit it!).

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Re: I'm outta here

[Tom C]

Funnily enough, I believe.

You do realize, Ann, what you were missing out on, bypassing me by a couple 
of hours.

Tom C.

>
>David Savage wrote:
>
> >I didn't make it up. it's a real word (adverb).
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
>ann verifies this in the 4th edition of the Scrabble Players dictionary :)
>



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Re: off to Iceland in a couple of days

[Christian]

Amita Guha wrote:
> On Friday, we leave for our trip to Iceland for a week. I'm not
> packing any Pentax gear, but I am meeting PDMLer Thrainn on Monday,
> and I'm looking forward to that. Talk to you guys in a couple of
> weeks!
> 
> Amita
> 

Have fun.  I hate you.  Great birds in Iceland!

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Re: I'm outta here

[Tom C]

Funnily enough, I believe.





Tom C.








>From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: I'm outta here
>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 23:55:56 -0400
>
>David Savage wrote:
>
> >I didn't make it up. it's a real word (adverb).
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
>ann verifies this in the 4th edition of the Scrabble Players dictionary :)
>
>
>
>
> >
> >At 11:13 AM 24/05/2007, Tom C wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Funnily?  Funny.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Tom C.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >>>Subject: Re: I'm outta here
> >>>Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:17 +0800
> >>>
> >>>At 12:49 AM 24/05/2007, Mark Roberts wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> William Robb wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
> >
> >
> will see
> 
> 
> >in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
> >
> >
> Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
> was further away :)
> 
> 
> >>>Funnily enough, I wish it were a bit closer.
> >>>
> >>>:-)
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: I'm outta here

[ann sanfedele]

David Savage wrote:

>I didn't make it up. it's a real word (adverb).
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave
>  
>
ann verifies this in the 4th edition of the Scrabble Players dictionary :)




>
>At 11:13 AM 24/05/2007, Tom C wrote:
>  
>
>>Funnily?  Funny.
>>
>>
>>
>>Tom C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>Subject: Re: I'm outta here
>>>Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:17 +0800
>>>
>>>At 12:49 AM 24/05/2007, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>>  
>>>
William Robb wrote:



>See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
>  
>
will see


>in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
>  
>
Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
was further away :)


>>>Funnily enough, I wish it were a bit closer.
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>  
>>>
>
>
>  
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Re: off to Iceland in a couple of days

[ann sanfedele]

Amita Guha wrote:

>On Friday, we leave for our trip to Iceland for a week. I'm not
>packing any Pentax gear, but I am meeting PDMLer Thrainn on Monday,
>and I'm looking forward to that. Talk to you guys in a couple of
>weeks!
>
>Amita
>
>  
>
Have a great time! - no wonder you aren't going to GFM :) :)

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Re: off to Iceland in a couple of days

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Happy Trails, Amita!
Have a great trip!

G

On May 23, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Amita Guha wrote:

> On Friday, we leave for our trip to Iceland for a week. I'm not
> packing any Pentax gear, but I am meeting PDMLer Thrainn on Monday,
> and I'm looking forward to that. Talk to you guys in a couple of
> weeks!


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Re: GFM check list

[Kenneth Waller]

>I did half the Appalachian Trail with a day pack and a poly tarp. And, I 
>started from Tampa.

Last time I checked, the southern start for the Appalachian trail was 
Springer Mountain in Georgia.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GFM check list


> Hey, Mark? I did half the Appalachian Trail with a day pack and a poly 
> tarp. And, I started from Tampa. I was older then than you are now. I 
> didn't even have a credit card. Am I a pansy?
>
> I spent a night on the rim of an ancient volcano in the Rockies, with only 
> two sticks to rub together for equipment. Am I a pansy?
>
> I walked across the US from, DC to Portland, with my home on my back. Am I 
> a pansy?
>
> Or are you, yuppi?
>
> 
>
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>
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Bob W wrote:
>>
> it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back
 to Nature,
> roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
> down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your
 inherited
> Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
>>> Ray
> Mears would be proud of you!
 Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do
 camping any more.
>>> you're just a big girl's blouse, really.
>>
>> They're all a lot of pansies. I'm the only one who ever really camps
>> out on the trail.
>> ;-)


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Re: I'm outta here

[David Savage]

I didn't make it up. it's a real word (adverb).

Cheers,

Dave


At 11:13 AM 24/05/2007, Tom C wrote:
>Funnily?  Funny.
>
>
>
>Tom C.
>
>
> >From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Re: I'm outta here
> >Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:17 +0800
> >
> >At 12:49 AM 24/05/2007, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > >William Robb wrote:
> > >
> > > >See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
> > >will see
> > > >in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
> > >
> > >Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
> > >was further away :)
> >
> >Funnily enough, I wish it were a bit closer.
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Dave


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Re: How to improve this shot? (Heavy Weather 2)

[Tom C]

This is the best, straight to the point, critique of an image(s) that I 
think I've heard on the PDML.


I agree whole-heartedly.

Good job on that Christian.  Basically it's wasting time on an image that is 
almost good enough. If you have one of those, your time is better spent 
doing almost ANYTHING, than working with the sub-par image.


Go out and try again, anything!  Start out with a good shot and make it 
better, but don't start out with something less and expect it to be great.


This is not meant to criticize you in any way Tim.  I agree with Christian 
that focus is all important in wildlife shots.


Tom C.



From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: How to improve this shot? (Heavy Weather 2)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 23:22:06 -0400

Tim Øsleby wrote:
>
> And now, the PHOTO:
> You may remember this
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
>
> But I'm open to most suggestions.
> Unless they means to go back to reshoot. Havent got time for that. It 
ain't

> snowing all year here ;-)
>

I refrained from commenting on the "Heavy Weather" series originally,
because, personally, I found nothing too appealing in the shots.  I
understand the concept and the idea for the series and I truly
understand adverse shooting conditions.  But since you seem to be really
fond of this shot, I'll tell you what I don't like about it and offer a
suggestion or two.

First, the oyster catcher (middle bird), drags my attention straight to
its bright, red beak.  This is unfortunate since it is out of focus.  I
know it's not meant to be in focus for the layering effect (see below)
but it's just bad luck that it's the brightest thing in the frame and
I'm distracted by bright, shiny objects.

Second, I don't like the pose of the lapwing (foreground bird).  It's a
nice bird, but its rear end is not that interesting and conflicts with
the profiles of the other two birds.

Third, nothing is really in critical focus.  I think for this layering
effect to work, you need one bird in super-sharp focus.  Just as an
example and with entirely different weather conditions (overcast, no
snow) check out: http://tinyurl.com/2emxee  The shooting angle is
similar (slightly above) and the idea was the same.  I wish my birds
weren't intersecting and for that I missed THE shot too (again, in my
opinion).  With static birds (perched, standing, etc) I REALLY think
critical focus is the key.  Seriously, if I miss focus, especially on
the eye, by more than a hair, I delete the image.

So, MY suggestion; what I would do with this image; I would go back and
try again another day.  You say you "don't have time" but really, as a
hobbyist, all you have is time.  It'll snow again, the birds will be
there again and you can use other images for your display in the
meantime.  I guess I don't "push" my images to fill a gap or try to make
them into something they can't be.  Perhaps it's an experience thing.  I
go back and look at old slides and wonder why I kept them.  I've
improved a ton in the past 6 or so years as my shooting increased (and
still have a lot more to go!).  Maybe that's why I am so critical of my
own work, because I KNOW I'm capable of better.  It's just a matter of
going back and doing it again and learning from my errors.  Instead of
fixing a current image, I'll shoot another of the same
subject/location/style, remembering why I didn't like the original.
Sometimes, for example Australian birds (the parrots there are amazing),
I might have to wait several years to re-shoot.

Any way, my 2 Kroner.  Only meant to help you since you seem to have an
interest in something I have a real passion for.

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Re: How to improve this shot? (Heavy Weather 2)

[Christian]

Tim Øsleby wrote:
> 
> And now, the PHOTO:
> You may remember this 
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
> 
> But I'm open to most suggestions.
> Unless they means to go back to reshoot. Havent got time for that. It ain't 
> snowing all year here ;-)
> 

I refrained from commenting on the "Heavy Weather" series originally, 
because, personally, I found nothing too appealing in the shots.  I 
understand the concept and the idea for the series and I truly 
understand adverse shooting conditions.  But since you seem to be really 
fond of this shot, I'll tell you what I don't like about it and offer a 
suggestion or two.

First, the oyster catcher (middle bird), drags my attention straight to 
its bright, red beak.  This is unfortunate since it is out of focus.  I 
know it's not meant to be in focus for the layering effect (see below) 
but it's just bad luck that it's the brightest thing in the frame and 
I'm distracted by bright, shiny objects.

Second, I don't like the pose of the lapwing (foreground bird).  It's a 
nice bird, but its rear end is not that interesting and conflicts with 
the profiles of the other two birds.

Third, nothing is really in critical focus.  I think for this layering 
effect to work, you need one bird in super-sharp focus.  Just as an 
example and with entirely different weather conditions (overcast, no 
snow) check out: http://tinyurl.com/2emxee  The shooting angle is 
similar (slightly above) and the idea was the same.  I wish my birds 
weren't intersecting and for that I missed THE shot too (again, in my 
opinion).  With static birds (perched, standing, etc) I REALLY think 
critical focus is the key.  Seriously, if I miss focus, especially on 
the eye, by more than a hair, I delete the image.

So, MY suggestion; what I would do with this image; I would go back and 
try again another day.  You say you "don't have time" but really, as a 
hobbyist, all you have is time.  It'll snow again, the birds will be 
there again and you can use other images for your display in the 
meantime.  I guess I don't "push" my images to fill a gap or try to make 
them into something they can't be.  Perhaps it's an experience thing.  I 
go back and look at old slides and wonder why I kept them.  I've 
improved a ton in the past 6 or so years as my shooting increased (and 
still have a lot more to go!).  Maybe that's why I am so critical of my 
own work, because I KNOW I'm capable of better.  It's just a matter of 
going back and doing it again and learning from my errors.  Instead of 
fixing a current image, I'll shoot another of the same 
subject/location/style, remembering why I didn't like the original. 
Sometimes, for example Australian birds (the parrots there are amazing), 
I might have to wait several years to re-shoot.

Any way, my 2 Kroner.  Only meant to help you since you seem to have an 
interest in something I have a real passion for.

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Beaker]

Really nice photo! Nice pose, if that is the right word. Did he stay  
still for long?
Is it just me, or is the bird wearing a bad toupee?

Cheers
Beaker



On May 23, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Christian wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v
>
> This is a crested caracara (Caracara cheriway).  Kinda like an eagle
> crossed with a vulture.
>
> The ranch owner had a 3-person blind set up at the top of a slope with
> some nice perches (logs, dead trees) and a pond downslope.  It was
> angled perfectly to catch the afternoon sunlight.  Unfortunately for 2
> of the three days it was totally overcast.  I got lucky on the only  
> day
> we saw a sunset when it was my turn in the "hawk blind."  The  
> caracaras
> where baited in with dead cow parts (heart, kidneys, liver, etc.) and
> got pretty close.
>
> I kinda like this shot because it is a little different view of a  
> raptor.
>
> For pixel-peepers: 20D 500mm F4L IS with 1.4x TC mounted on a  
> Manfrotto
> 055Pro with Studioball and Wimberley sidekick.  F8 1/200 ISO 100.  A
> little fill flash.  Converted in ACR and edited in PSCS2 with minimal
> sharpening and corrections for web display.  Cropped slightly to a 4x5
> format for future printing but pretty much full frame (I'm thinking
> it'll look nice 16x20).
>
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Re: GFM check list

[graywolf]

That's OK, but our natives do not carry messages.

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Bob W wrote:
>>> it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back 
>> to Nature,
>>> roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
>>> down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your 
>> inherited
>>> Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
> Ray
>>> Mears would be proud of you!
>> I was going to ask why no one had posted that "supplies" list that 
>> included pointed sticks or something...
>>
> 
> Sorry - I thought you'd have all memorised it by now. If cleft sticks
> aren't readily obtainable in the colonies I'm sure Cotty can motor up
> to Knightsbridge and Harrods will have some cloven for you.
> 
> a well-furnished tent
> 3 months' rations
> collapsible canoe
> jointed flagstaff and Union Jack
> hand pump and sterilising plant
> astrolabe
> 6 suits of tropical linen
> sou'wester
> camp operating table and set of surgical instruments
> portable humidor
> Christmas hamper with Santa costume and mistletoe stand
> cane for whacking snakes
> coil of rope
> sheet of tin
> several cleft sticks
> riding breeches for winter and summer
> bush shirts
> a sola topi
> a double-brimmed sun hat
> a camp bed and sleeping bag
> long boots to deter mosquitoes at sundown
> quinine pills to protect against malaria
> slabs of black chocolate for energy
> metal uniform cases
> a cedarwood trunk lined with zinc to keep ants out
> silk pyjamas to avoid typhus
> cleft sticks
>  
> 
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Re: I'm outta here

[Tom C]

Funnily?  Funny.



Tom C.


>From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: I'm outta here
>Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:03:17 +0800
>
>At 12:49 AM 24/05/2007, Mark Roberts wrote:
> >William Robb wrote:
> >
> > >See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
> >will see
> > >in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
> >
> >Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
> >was further away :)
>
>Funnily enough, I wish it were a bit closer.
>
>:-)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave
>
>
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Re: GFM check list

[graywolf]

Hey, Mark? I did half the Appalachian Trail with a day pack and a poly tarp. 
And, I started from Tampa. I was older then than you are now. I didn't even 
have a credit card. Am I a pansy?

I spent a night on the rim of an ancient volcano in the Rockies, with only two 
sticks to rub together for equipment. Am I a pansy?

I walked across the US from, DC to Portland, with my home on my back. Am I a 
pansy?

Or are you, yuppi?

 

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Mark Roberts wrote:
> Bob W wrote:
> 
 it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back 
>>> to Nature,
 roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
 down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your 
>>> inherited
 Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
>> Ray
 Mears would be proud of you!
>>> Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do 
>>> camping any more.
>> you're just a big girl's blouse, really.
> 
> They're all a lot of pansies. I'm the only one who ever really camps 
> out on the trail.
> ;-)
> 
> 

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Re: GFM check list

[graywolf]

I have a Bradford Angiers book I can lend you. Just in case you get lost 
between the picnic area and the cafeteria.

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Cotty wrote:
> On 23/5/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back to Nature,
>> roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
>> down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your inherited
>> Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain - Ray
>> Mears would be proud of you!
> 
> Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do camping any more.
> 

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PESO -- The Garden Gnome's Illegitimate Daughter; Another View

[P. J. Alling]

Some will remember the Garden Gnomes Daughter.  Here she is again.

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_tgkidav.html

Technical Data:
Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 Shutter Speed 1/320sec
smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6 AL [IF] @ 50mm f10.0
Converted to B&W with Fotomatic B&W Plus Cyan Filter applied.

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Re: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 5/23/2007 10:29:37 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I mean, they all work  for you, when was the last time they did what you told 
them to do???

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I like the clerks at the local PO and they are  very responsive. That's about 
it.

Not sure it qualifies as government,  though.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  




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PESO ... (was Troop 95)

[Walter Hamler]

Looks great to my eye, Bong,  Nice capture and expression.

Walt

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off to Iceland in a couple of days

[Amita Guha]

On Friday, we leave for our trip to Iceland for a week. I'm not
packing any Pentax gear, but I am meeting PDMLer Thrainn on Monday,
and I'm looking forward to that. Talk to you guys in a couple of
weeks!

Amita

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PESO ... (was Troop 95)

[Bong Manayon]

Hi,

Need your critique.  Being Asian, we usually like our skin tones
saturated which may not necessarily work all the time.  So I'm
learning ...

http://www.ontu.net/portfolio/portraits_02.htm

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Re: (TOP) Major Low-light Digital Photography Breakthrough Inbound fromKorea

[John Francis]

On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:18:12PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/05/major-low-light-digital-photography.html
> -- 
> Thibault Massart aka Thibouille
> 
> -
> 
> And regular exposures would be 1/4000 at F32 with a couple of ND filters 
> in place?
> 
> The sensor looks pretty small. Could it be scaled up to APS-C?
> 
> Joe

If you read some of the followup postings you'll find out that:

 1)  This isn't really new - in fact just about the same press
 release was discussed on dpreview back in 2005.

 2)  Sony already sell cameras with this level of sensitivity.

 3)  The resolution is quite low (VGA?), and the pesky laws of
 physics pretty much say you're going to be stuck at low
 resolutions to get even marginally acceptable signal-to-
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Re: (TOP) Major Low-light Digital Photography Breakthrough Inbound fromKorea

[Sandy Harris]

On 5/24/07, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/05/major-low-light-digital-photography.html

> And regular exposures would be 1/4000 at F32 with a couple of ND filters
> in place?

2000 times faster than conventional sensors, they say. Wow! 11 stops.

I reckon most of us only need about four; that gives any of the dozens
of F4 or thereabouts lenses around -- nice ones like Pentax 21/3.2
Limited, Olympus 7-14 F4 zoom for 4/3, Canon 24-105 F4 on a 5D,
or cheap ones like almost any kit zoom -- the low-light capability of
an F1.0 Leica Noctilux.

But at what cost? What is the dynamic range? Colour rendition? Noise
performance? Are there manufacturing difficulties? Wiil the thing ever
make it out of the lab?

And are there tradeoffs? Instead of 11 stops faster, can we have, say,
5 stops faster  with 6 stops better dynamic range? Either would be
wonderful. Together, they'd be stunning.

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Re: Has Anyone Tried to Use the Pentax K100D in Microphotography?

[Mark Roberts]

Paul wrote:

>Has anyone on this list attempted to use the 
>Pentax K100D to take microsphotographs using 
>a microscope? 

Haven't tried it, but I want to get my S.O. to have a go with the K10D 
on her microscope. We have to get the university to get the proper 
set-up for using the K-mount body on it (though M42 would do since I 
have an adapter). She had an Olympus microscope before but she's just 
moved to a different hospital and I'm not sure what she's using now.

>Given the lack of a Live View, is there anyway 
>a person can determine when the microscope image 
>is focused in the camera?

If the microscope is properly set up, getting the image in focus 
through the eyepiece will also make it in focus at the sensor plane. 
There may be a little trial and error in this, but once done it 
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Re: Don't want to sound too alarmist but...

[Cory Papenfuss]

On Wed, 23 May 2007, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> On 23/05/07, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Most likely a mechanical failure in the camcorder, and either a
>> mechanical failure or electronic overheating in the DVD player.  Properly
>> designed solid-state electronics will last practically until the sun burns
>> out (or the electrolytic caps fail).
>
> I should add by citing a very recent example of equipment failure that
> I experienced. Yesterday my network printer printed one job but the
> next was stuck in the queue and would not print. The problem turned
> out to be the JetDirect network interface card in the printer, it was
> simply no more, nothing fried on it (and no tinned electros either
> funny enough) but the printer completely failed to recognize it any
> longer.
>
> It had on board a Philips ARM processor, Samsung RAM, Broadcom LAN
> interface and another AMD CPU plus a handful of passive components.
> I'm sure that the components could be designed to me more robust but
> I'm also sure that in this case they would have all be working well
> within their design parameters however it broke for no apparent
> reason.
>
Like I said, properly design electronic devices made with 
high-quality components and attention to thermal design last practically 
forever.  Major causes are:

- Bad or no thermal design... especially with computer parts
- Electrolytic caps
- Electrostatic damage
- Mechanical shock (not too normal)

Citing examples of consumer-grade electronics failing often negate 
the original assumption of properly and correctly designed with decent 
components.  Take a piece of aircraft avionics they live in a 
*horrible* environment with heat/cold/vibration/shock/corrosion and last 
literally for decades.  The failures are almost always mechanical, not 
electrical, and are due to the bad environment.

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How to improve this shot? (Heavy Weather 2)

[Tim Øsleby]

Some NEWS first:
I'm now prepering my first "commersial" displaying at a local cafe. It is 
noting big, just a wall to display at. And most of the regular visitors 
arent excactly the type to pay money for photography. So I don't expect 
much. Never the less, it is kind of exiting :-)

The birds in Heavy Weather series means something for me, despite the mixed 
reviews. The idea is to display then next to some slick looking "Bird in 
Sunset" etc.pictures, to make a contrast.
It might be a bad idea, but I think it's the right thing to do, for me.

And now, the PHOTO:
You may remember this 
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
and Godfreys response (at the bottom of this post). Those of you who are 
less senile than me, may also remember that I responded claiming Photoshop 
phobia, and asked for more concrete suggstions on how to make the separation 
better. He responded by adwising me to get rid of my Photoshop phobia by 
picking up some books.
I'm doing that now, reading.
And it seem to help. In fact it is rather fun. Now I'm actually able to open 
Elements without a major sweating attack ;-)
So thank you very much Godfrey for kicking me in my lower back region.

Now I'm looking at the photo, the one that triggered the "read some books" 
suggestion. I'm looking for ways to make the separation between the bird and 
the surroundings better. Haven't come up with a solution yet.
So now I'm asking more. (That's the downside of doing people favours, they 
tend to come back for more (-; )
Could you please give me some hints on what techniques to use, to acomplish 
the goal, a better separation?
I'm not asking for tutoring or detailed explonations. Just some simple 
hints, on what to go for, and what tools.

I could make the crop a wider, and move the "offending" bird down a tiny 
bit. That would probably help. But I think it needs a bit more. Something 
adding some punch to the bird and the bird alone. I don't think encreasing 
saturation of the bird more is the right direction. Encreased saturation 
will alter the mood of the shot.

But I'm open to most suggestions.
Unless they means to go back to reshoot. Havent got time for that. It ain't 
snowing all year here ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2


I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a
bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings.
You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image
processing work.

Godfrey

On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for
> four of
> five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie.
> The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's
> projects.
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
> I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient.
>
> Thumb up, or thumb down folks?
> When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea.


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Re: GFM check list

[ann sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:

>Bob W wrote:
>
>  
>
it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back 


>>>to Nature,
>>>  
>>>
roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your 


>>>inherited
>>>  
>>>
Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -


>>Ray
>>
>>
Mears would be proud of you!


>>>Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do 
>>>camping any more.
>>>  
>>>
>>you're just a big girl's blouse, really.
>>
>>
>
>They're all a lot of pansies. I'm the only one who ever really camps 
>out on the trail.
>;-)
>
>  
>
If I were 30 years younger - hell, if I were 15 years younger, _ I'd be 
out there with you Mark :)

ann

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Re: (TOP) Major Low-light Digital Photography Breakthrough Inbound fromKorea

[Joseph Tainter]

http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/05/major-low-light-digital-photography.html
-- 
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-

And regular exposures would be 1/4000 at F32 with a couple of ND filters 
in place?

The sensor looks pretty small. Could it be scaled up to APS-C?

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Re: RE: GFM check list

[David Savage]

You need an excuse?

Cheers,

Dave


At 08:25 AM 24/05/2007, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>Bob,
>You don't understand.
>Over here in the states, camping is a manly excuse for not washing or
>shaving, eating all the fatty foods you want, drinking lots of beer,
>and farting loudly in the company of your spouse or significant other.
>  Nothing fancy, just lots of beer.
>Regards,  Bob S.
>
>On 5/23/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back
> > > to Nature,
> > > >roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
> > > >down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your
> > > inherited
> > > >Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
> > Ray
> > > >Mears would be proud of you!
> > >
> > > I was going to ask why no one had posted that "supplies" list that
> > > included pointed sticks or something...
> > >


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Re: I'm outta here

[David Savage]

At 12:49 AM 24/05/2007, Mark Roberts wrote:
>William Robb wrote:
>
> >See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
>will see
> >in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
>
>Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
>was further away :)

Funnily enough, I wish it were a bit closer.

:-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Spring Lamb

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
I like the composition on both pictures.
The subway station is really good,
the lamb is well posed in the frame.
Fun shots, the both of them.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/22/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One last one from my daughter, Claire (see "Chester" for more details
> of how she came to shoot with me this weekend):
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=JQXKwtCTQa
>
> She'd love to hear your comments (keeping in mind that this has not
> been PS'ed at all, for brightness or colour adjustment or sharpness -
> this is completely unmanipulated, right out of the camera).
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Has Anyone Tried to Use the Pentax K100D in Microphotography?

[Adam Maas]

Paul wrote:
> Has anyone on this list attempted to use the 
> Pentax K100D to take microsphotographs using 
> a microscope? 
> 
> Given the lack of a Live View, is there anyway 
> a person can determine when the microscope image 
> is focused in the camera?
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Paul
> Louisiana

You could use the Digital DoF preview to give a quick display on the 
rear LCD without wasting card space, otherwise it would be like any 
other SLR.

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Has Anyone Tried to Use the Pentax K100D in Microphotography?

[Paul]

Has anyone on this list attempted to use the 
Pentax K100D to take microsphotographs using 
a microscope? 

Given the lack of a Live View, is there anyway 
a person can determine when the microscope image 
is focused in the camera?

Yours,

Paul
Louisiana



 

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Re: Has Anyone Tried to Use the Pentax K100D in Microphotography?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 23, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Paul wrote:

> Has anyone on this list attempted to use the
> Pentax K100D to take microsphotographs using
> a microscope?
>
> Given the lack of a Live View, is there anyway
> a person can determine when the microscope image
> is focused in the camera?

I haven't done it, but I can't imagine that it will be any different  
to use with a microscope as any other SLR camera. Focusing simply  
take time and practice.

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Re: RE: GFM check list

[Bob Sullivan]

Bob,
You don't understand.
Over here in the states, camping is a manly excuse for not washing or
shaving, eating all the fatty foods you want, drinking lots of beer,
and farting loudly in the company of your spouse or significant other.
 Nothing fancy, just lots of beer.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/23/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back
> > to Nature,
> > >roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
> > >down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your
> > inherited
> > >Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
> Ray
> > >Mears would be proud of you!
> >
> > I was going to ask why no one had posted that "supplies" list that
> > included pointed sticks or something...
> >
>
> Sorry - I thought you'd have all memorised it by now. If cleft sticks
> aren't readily obtainable in the colonies I'm sure Cotty can motor up
> to Knightsbridge and Harrods will have some cloven for you.
>
> a well-furnished tent
> 3 months' rations
> collapsible canoe
> jointed flagstaff and Union Jack
> hand pump and sterilising plant
> astrolabe
> 6 suits of tropical linen
> sou'wester
> camp operating table and set of surgical instruments
> portable humidor
> Christmas hamper with Santa costume and mistletoe stand
> cane for whacking snakes
> coil of rope
> sheet of tin
> several cleft sticks
> riding breeches for winter and summer
> bush shirts
> a sola topi
> a double-brimmed sun hat
> a camp bed and sleeping bag
> long boots to deter mosquitoes at sundown
> quinine pills to protect against malaria
> slabs of black chocolate for energy
> metal uniform cases
> a cedarwood trunk lined with zinc to keep ants out
> silk pyjamas to avoid typhus
> cleft sticks
>
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Re: I'm outta here

[Tom C]

LOL.

I just love to smoke salmon, grill meat and drink wine outside.

I know Bill enjoys a good cut of meat and glass of wine.



Tom C.


>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:36:58 -0400
>
>Sounds like the start of a seduction...
>
>Tom C wrote:
> >> William Robb wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
> >>>
> >> will see
> >>
> >>> in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
> >>>
> >> Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
> >> was further away :)
> >> See you there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Tommorrow should be a good day for William.
> >
> > Dinner consists of:
> >
> > Alder-apple smoked salmon (brined and smoked myself) for the appetizer,
> > paired with a very slightly cool ruby-red cherry-nosed Pinot Noir.
> >
> > 1lb grilled beef ribsteak seasoned and quick-seared
> >
> > Sweet potato french fries sprinkled with fresh cracked pepper and sea 
>salt
> >
> > Fresh green salad
> >
> > Served with a bottle of 2005 Norton Malbec and a sweeping mountain vista
> >
> > Who knows what later?
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: RE: GFM check list

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> >it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back 
>> to Nature,
>> >roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
>> >down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your 
>> inherited
>> >Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
>Ray
>> >Mears would be proud of you!
>> 
>> Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do 
>> camping any more.
>
>you're just a big girl's blouse, really.

They're all a lot of pansies. I'm the only one who ever really camps 
out on the trail.
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Re: OT: Great Photo of Venus and the Moon

[P. J. Alling]

That's a good one too.

Walter Hamler wrote:
> Our astronomy club was out that night. I was able to get this shot with the 
> 350mm lens.
> 1/80 at 5.5, iso 200. On a tripod.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/May-19-2007-Star-Party1.jpg
>
> Walt 
>
>
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Re: (TOP) Major Low-light Digital Photography Breakthrough Inbound from Korea

[P. J. Alling]

Now there's something I'd buy a Samsung to get.

Thibouille wrote:
> http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/05/major-low-light-digital-photography.html
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Re: OT: Great Photo of Venus and the Moon

[P. J. Alling]

Heck no, straight from the camera, (well I did some adjustments in 
Photoshop, this was when I was still using Pentax Photo Lab for my RAW 
conversions).

Norm Baugher wrote:
> Very nice Peter, did you Photoshop that in?
> Norm
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Here's my take on Venus and the Moon.  A PESO from a year or so ago.
>>
>> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_companion.html
>>
>> P. J. Alling wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Strangely I don't see either the moon or Venus in you photo.  Just a 
>>> comet tail.
>>>
>>> David Savage wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 That is pretty cool

 Here's a crappy photo of the moon & Venus of mine from a few months back:

 

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 5/23/07, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   
 
   
 
> Not mine, unfortunately .  .  .  .
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070523.html
> 
>   
> 
>   
   
 
   
 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>
>
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OT: Great Photo of Venus and the Moon

[Walter Hamler]

Our astronomy club was out that night. I was able to get this shot with the 
350mm lens.
1/80 at 5.5, iso 200. On a tripod.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/May-19-2007-Star-Party1.jpg

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Re: I'm outta here

[P. J. Alling]

Sounds like the start of a seduction...

Tom C wrote:
>> William Robb wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I
>>>   
>> will see
>> 
>>> in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
>>>   
>> Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
>> was further away :)
>> See you there.
>>
>>
>> 
>
> Tommorrow should be a good day for William.
>
> Dinner consists of:
>
> Alder-apple smoked salmon (brined and smoked myself) for the appetizer, 
> paired with a very slightly cool ruby-red cherry-nosed Pinot Noir.
>
> 1lb grilled beef ribsteak seasoned and quick-seared
>
> Sweet potato french fries sprinkled with fresh cracked pepper and sea salt
>
> Fresh green salad
>
> Served with a bottle of 2005 Norton Malbec and a sweeping mountain vista
>
> Who knows what later?
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
>   


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Re: Don't want to sound too alarmist but...

[P. J. Alling]

Actually if the Anti Shake works the way Pentax claims it is a 
breakthrough.  It may not be apparent in any flashy way but it's there.

John Forbes wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:47:24 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
 I was simply being kind and was at a loss for words.  If I knew a  
 
>>> camera
>>>   
 company was going out of business I certainly would not run out and  
 
>>> buy
>>>   
 more
 of the same because it will eventually stop working, likely not be
 supported, and be worthless.

 Tom C.
 
>>> Let me explain it in short words.  The scenario is that Hoya closes  
>>> Pentax
>>> down.  Like several people here, I have a lot of Pentax lenses, most of
>>> which will last my lifetime, unlike a camera body .  The only thing that
>>> will prevent me from using the lenses is camera failure.
>>>
>>> If I try to sell the lenses, I won't get much for them, because nobody
>>> will want them.  To change to a different system would cost thousands.
>>>
>>> So the sensible thing is to buy a couple more bodies, and by using them
>>> lightly hope to get at least 10 years use out of them, or even more.
>>>
>>> Digital camera technology is now quite mature.  Improvements in picture
>>> quality are pretty small.  Pictures I get from my *ist D are not hugely
>>> worse than my K10D.  I do not expect that any camera produced in the  
>>> next
>>> few years will be so advanced as to make either of these obsolete.
>>>
>>> So if Hoya DOES close Pentax, which I think is highly unlikely, I shall
>>> buy a couple more bodies. Probably a K110D and a K10D. I suspect some
>>> other people in my position will do the same.  Whether body prices will
>>> actually rise, I don't know.  But they won't fall as much as lenses.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>   
>> I understand the logic behind it.  The other view, in this theorhetical
>> situation, is that instead of continuing to drive down a one lane  
>> dead-end
>> street in a car w/o a reverse gear, one could either go down a different
>> street or get a different vehicle.
>> 
>
> If money were no object, one could choose any option.  I am interested in  
> finding the most cost-effective one.
>
>   
>> I guess I think that it's more likely for a body to fail and become
>> worthless than it is for a lens to totally fail.
>> 
>
> Tom, you're nearly there.  It's because bodies are more likely to fail  
> that I would be keen to buy a couple and that way ensure that my lenses  
> could still be used.  I wouldn't buy more lenses because eventually there  
> would be no body to use them on.  That would be a waste.
>
>   
>> Who knows what advancements could be made in digital picture technology  
>> in 5 - 10 years?
>> 
>
> Not much, judging by how little progress there has been in the last two  
> years.  As I said, this is a technology that is now quite mature.  The  
> K10D is remarkable for its feature set and its price.  It doesn't break  
> any new ground technologically.
>
> John
>
>
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Re: GFM check list

[Scott Loveless]

Bob W wrote:
> Ray Mears would be proud of you!
>
>   
Nah.  Most of us will have _digital_ cameras.

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Re: GFM check list

[Scott Loveless]

David J Brooks wrote:
> On 5/22/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>   I'm sleeping on an air bed this year, so I'll have a
>> battery pump or 12v pump as well as hand operated.
>> 
>
> I brought mine twice now. First time i forgot the pump and used it as
> a ground sheet. Last year, i had a pump, but the hole was way to big
> for the pum, thus another ground sheet.:-)
>
> I'm looking at pumps tonight, or maybe the one that comes with a pump,
> that might actually be the right size:-)
>
>   
Mine has three adapters and runs on 12v DC.  I think we're good.

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Re: GFM check list

[Scott Loveless]

Paul Sorenson wrote:
> REI has a bunch...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2u6hvc
>
> -p
>
>   
Sweet.  Thanks!

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Re: GFM check list

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>you're just a big girl's blouse, really.

I certainly collect them, it's true.

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Re: PESO - From the Underground

[Norm Baugher]

I think it would look great in B&W, also I like the shadowy person 
bottom right and the person looking down the stairs from the top (is 
that you Frankie?)
Norm

Cotty wrote:
> Now *that* one caught my eye. It has atmosphere to it, feeling. Lovely
> the way the light plays on the surfaces, distinctive patterns
> highlighted. Nice feeling of movement, 'heading into the light' onwards
> and upwards, gives the picture a 'destination' to aim for. Really like
> it. Well done Claire.
>
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Re: GFM check list

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Christmas hamper with Santa costume and mistletoe stand
>cane for whacking snakes
>coil of rope

The thing is, after drinking the sherry in the Christmas hamper, one
tends to take the cane and whack the coil of rope...

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RE: RE: GFM check list

[Bob W]

> 
> >it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back 
> to Nature,
> >roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
> >down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your 
> inherited
> >Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
Ray
> >Mears would be proud of you!
> 
> I was going to ask why no one had posted that "supplies" list that 
> included pointed sticks or something...
> 

Sorry - I thought you'd have all memorised it by now. If cleft sticks
aren't readily obtainable in the colonies I'm sure Cotty can motor up
to Knightsbridge and Harrods will have some cloven for you.

a well-furnished tent
3 months' rations
collapsible canoe
jointed flagstaff and Union Jack
hand pump and sterilising plant
astrolabe
6 suits of tropical linen
sou'wester
camp operating table and set of surgical instruments
portable humidor
Christmas hamper with Santa costume and mistletoe stand
cane for whacking snakes
coil of rope
sheet of tin
several cleft sticks
riding breeches for winter and summer
bush shirts
a sola topi
a double-brimmed sun hat
a camp bed and sleeping bag
long boots to deter mosquitoes at sundown
quinine pills to protect against malaria
slabs of black chocolate for energy
metal uniform cases
a cedarwood trunk lined with zinc to keep ants out
silk pyjamas to avoid typhus
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RE: GFM check list

[Bob W]

> 
> >it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back 
> to Nature,
> >roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
> >down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your 
> inherited
> >Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain -
Ray
> >Mears would be proud of you!
> 
> Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do 
> camping any more.
> 

you're just a big girl's blouse, really.

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Re: GFM check list

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back to Nature,
>roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
>down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your inherited
>Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain - Ray
>Mears would be proud of you!

Not me brother. After I reached 40, that was it. I don't do camping any more.

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Meh...  I'm hoping the second-hand market will be flooded with 1DIINs 
>when the MkIII starts shipping.  Until then, I'll make do with my "toy" 
>camera.

Well, that's a relief. Excellent move.

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(TOP) Major Low-light Digital Photography Breakthrough Inbound from Korea

[Thibouille]

http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/05/major-low-light-digital-photography.html
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Re: RE: GFM check list

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back to Nature,
>roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
>down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your inherited
>Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain - Ray
>Mears would be proud of you!

I was going to ask why no one had posted that "supplies" list that 
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RE: OT - Makes Ewe Wonder

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Cotty
> Sent: 23 May 2007 14:31
> To: pentax list
> Subject: OT - Makes Ewe Wonder
> 
> 
> 
> LOL
> 

I expect they were going sheep-dogging

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Re: PESO 2007 - 23c - GDG

[Tim Øsleby]

I like this a lot better than the previous grafiti shot. I see a story here. 
Generations of taggers, "claiming" the window.

Tim Typo
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Subject: PESO 2007 - 23c - GDG


> From a walk in San Francisco:
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/23c.htm
>
> Comments, Critique, Whatever all appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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RE: I'm outta here

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Cotty
> Sent: 23 May 2007 21:09
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: I'm outta here
> 
> On 23/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Tommorrow should be a good day for William.
> >
> >Dinner consists of:
> >
> >Alder-apple smoked salmon (brined and smoked myself) for the 
> appetizer, 
> >paired with a very slightly cool ruby-red cherry-nosed Pinot Noir.
> >
> >1lb grilled beef ribsteak seasoned and quick-seared
> >
> >Sweet potato french fries sprinkled with fresh cracked 
> pepper and sea salt
> >
> >Fresh green salad
> >
> >Served with a bottle of 2005 Norton Malbec and a sweeping 
> mountain vista
> >
> >Who knows what later?
> 
> Good God - you've organised dinner 24 hours in advance?? I think my
> record is 24 minutes.
> 

This is the bit you should be alarmed about:

> >
> >Who knows what later?

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RE: GFM check list

[Bob W]

it's inspiring to read about how you'll all be getting back to Nature,
roughing it, living off the land, leading the simple life, stripped
down to the barest essentials, relying on your wits and your inherited
Stone Age survival skills for a few days on the rugged mountain - Ray
Mears would be proud of you!

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of mike wilson
> Sent: 23 May 2007 09:16
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: GFM check list
> 
> 
> > 
> > From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 11:35:26 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Subject: Re: GFM check list
> > 
> > David J Brooks wrote:
> > > So, I'll have my Mini BBQ, and i'll pick up 3-4 bottles 
> of propane, my
> > > two burner coleman type stove, a 100 litre cooler and a 60 litre
> > > cooler. Frank had the peculator for coffee, but i'll pick 
> one up to
> > > cover.
> > > Anyone have a coleman latern or such.
> > >
> > > Several ex cords and at least 1 power bar. Laptop and a 
> s&&t load of
> > > photographic stuff. 3-4 120 and 35mm B&W rolls.
> > >
> > > Anyone else want to add to the list.
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > Single-burner propane stove (it's very small and not very 
> efficient, but 
> > it will boil water), propane lantern, several propane bottles, one

> > percolator (I'm trying to find a French press that's 
> durable enough for 
> > camping, but not having much luck), pots, pans, etc., a 
> cooler, film dev 
> > stuff, laptop with burner.  I'll bring along some extension 
> cords and 
> > power strips, too.  I'm sleeping on an air bed this year, 
> so I'll have a 
> > battery pump or 12v pump as well as hand operated.
> 
> When the PDML condo gets built on the car park, bags I the 
> apartment with the best view.
> 
> > 
> > For any of you traveling great distances, or by plane, and you
need 
> > something that's hard to pack or travel with, I'll most 
> likely have room 
> > to carry it.  If I have one of whatever you're needing I 
> can bring it.  
> > Otherwise, feel free to ship it to me.
> > 
> > I've pretty much decided to sell all of my Pentax film gear, so
I'm 
> > bringing it along.  What you guys don't gobble up, will 
> either go to KEH 
> > or eBay or something like that.  Here's the list, more or less:
> > MX, *ist(film body) with battery grip, FA20-80(p), maybe 
> the PZ-1 (but 
> > maybe not), M lenses (28/3.5, 35/2.8, 50/1.7, 85/2, 200/4), and a 
> > Takumar-A 2x converter.
> > 
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Re: PESO 2007 - 23d - GDG

[Tim Øsleby]

I like the mood and the introvert feeling.

But I can't decide if I like the tilt or not. What's in the mirror seems 
tilted in one direction, the mirrow itself the other. At first I did not 
notice, now my head tilts back and forth, undecisive.

Tim Typo
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> Enjoying working with and learning the Panny L1 ... Taken using the
> Live View mode, camera at waist level, manual focus by scale:
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/23d.htm
>
> Comments, critique, flames all appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: PESO - Convergence

[Norm Baugher]

Bitchin'

frank theriault wrote:
> This is one that I shot:
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=oFJSqkhgqt
>
> Keeping in mind that until I get a computer (that I'm expecting in a
> couple of weeks - woo hoo) with PS in it (which it will have), I can't
> brighten, sharpen or anything else to enhance this thing.  It's
> completely unmanipulated, straight from the camera.
>
> Comments always welcome (no comparisons to my daughter's work, please)
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: I'm outta here

[Tom C]

I obviously don't get the joke.



Tom C.


>From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>On 23/5/07, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >You don't have to be very big to have a B&B, Tom.
>
>LOL
>
>Thanks Doug, bets laugh of the week.
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Re: PESO 2007 - 23d - GDG

[frank theriault]

On 5/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Enjoying working with and learning the Panny L1 ... Taken using the
> Live View mode, camera at waist level, manual focus by scale:
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/23d.htm
>
> Comments, critique, flames all appreciated.

I like the symmetry - both of them with legs crossed, both of them looking down.

I also like the way they're apparently together, but seem to be in
their own worlds for the moment.

Lovely B&W rendering.

Cool shot!

cheers,
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Re: Don't want to sound too alarmist but...

[Tom C]

>
>It's just economics, Tom.  For hundreds of dollars I could prolong the use
>of my lovely Pentax lenses for many years.  To switch would cost thousands.
>
>John
>
>

I understand.  When/if it comes to it, switching will be a slow process for 
me.

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Re: I'm outta here

[Tom C]

>
>
> > On 23/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >>
> >> 1lb grilled beef ribsteak seasoned and quick-seared
> >>
> >> Sweet potato french fries sprinkled with fresh cracked pepper and sea 
>salt
> >>
> >> Fresh green salad
> >>
> >> Served with a bottle of 2005 Norton Malbec and a sweeping mountain 
>vista
>
>That's a good choice, Tom.  Malbec and steak were like made for each
>other or something.
>
>Christian
>http://photography.skofteland.net
>

That's what I think! :-)

Tom C.



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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Christian]

Stephen Moore wrote:
> 
> Christian wrote:
> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v
>>
>> This is a crested caracara (Caracara cheriway).  Kinda like an eagle 
>> crossed with a vulture.
> 
> Damn, that's a great shot!
> BTW, I hate you  ;-)

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:
> On 23/5/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> For pixel-peepers: 20D
> 
> Feh, when you gonna buy a proper camera. 
> 

Meh...  I'm hoping the second-hand market will be flooded with 1DIINs 
when the MkIII starts shipping.  Until then, I'll make do with my "toy" 
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Re: PESO - Convergence

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 23, 2007, at 6:59 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> This is one that I shot:
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=oFJSqkhgqt
>
> Keeping in mind that until I get a computer (that I'm expecting in a
> couple of weeks - woo hoo) with PS in it (which it will have), I can't
> brighten, sharpen or anything else to enhance this thing.  It's
> completely unmanipulated, straight from the camera.
>
> Comments always welcome (no comparisons to my daughter's work, please)

I think whatever "it" is, it runs in the family. ;-)

neat one, Frank!

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Re: PESO - From the Underground

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 23, 2007, at 5:13 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> I'm getting scared now.  This photo (IMHO) is really really good!
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=ptpEtShwrG

Yes indeed. Good eye!

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Christian]

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Excellent - sharp and great color - though there seems to be a slight
> magenta cast to me.
> 

Thanks, Bruce.  I'm gonna check on that color in the RAW file when I get 
home.  The sharpness IS good isn't it?  :-)

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Re: Don't want to sound too alarmist but...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 23, 2007, at 9:35 AM, John Francis wrote:

> ... perhaps the
> research that Pat Hanrahan's group are doing over at Stanford on a
> camera that captures more than just a single plane of focus. It's a
> little early to tell, but I suspect the tradeoff in lower resolution
> may relegate this to little more than an interesting experiment. ...

I was at a presentation of the plenoptic camera technology a few  
months (or was it a year?) ago. Practical implementations is  
predicated on the notion that within the next few years there will be  
available cost-effective sensors with 100Mpixel or more, essentially  
excess resolution for practical use with current imaging systems.  
Bending that excess resolution to recording direction vector  
information gives access to whole new dimensions in image capture.

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Stephen Moore]

Christian wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v
> 
> This is a crested caracara (Caracara cheriway).  Kinda like an eagle 
> crossed with a vulture.

Damn, that's a great shot!
BTW, I hate you  ;-)

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Re: OT: Great Photo of Venus and the Moon

[Norm Baugher]

Very nice Peter, did you Photoshop that in?
Norm

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Here's my take on Venus and the Moon.  A PESO from a year or so ago.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_companion.html
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Strangely I don't see either the moon or Venus in you photo.  Just a 
>> comet tail.
>>
>> David Savage wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> That is pretty cool
>>>
>>> Here's a crappy photo of the moon & Venus of mine from a few months back:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 5/23/07, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Not mine, unfortunately .  .  .  .

 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070523.html
 
   
 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
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Re: All That Krap

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On May 22, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:

> Somewhat off topic (but photo related so not as off topic as some) -
> Camera Arts just put the whole Krappy Kamera Competition on line -  
> along
> with quotes from the participating photographers.
>
> http://www.cameraarts.com/2007_web_extras/CA58-krappy.php

It's wonderful stuff. :-)

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://tinyurl.com/396c5v
>
>This is a crested caracara (Caracara cheriway).  Kinda like an eagle 
>crossed with a vulture.

Gosh. Nice birdy. Nice piccy.

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Re: I'm outta here

[Christian]

> On 23/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> 1lb grilled beef ribsteak seasoned and quick-seared
>>
>> Sweet potato french fries sprinkled with fresh cracked pepper and sea salt
>>
>> Fresh green salad
>>
>> Served with a bottle of 2005 Norton Malbec and a sweeping mountain vista

That's a good choice, Tom.  Malbec and steak were like made for each 
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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Christian]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Great one. Beautiful color.
> Paul

>>> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v

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Re: PESO: Another plant thing. this one's Yellow

[Norm Baugher]

Looks like a salad dish I get at my local Thai place...
Norm

cbwaters wrote:
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2868595#155393653-L-LB
>
> This one was really tiny.  I had the trusty FA28-105 with me.  I was lagging 
> behind my folks again so I knelt to stabilize myself, got focus 
> confirmation, and shot it.
> It's a little soft and maybe missing some definition in the center of the 
> flower.  I feel like it's an "almost got it" shot.  But I figure it's worthy 
> of showing off anyway.
>
> Makes me want a really sharp macro lens though.  Anybody got a 50 or 100 
> macro to sell at GFM? ;)
>
> CW 
>
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Re: PESO - From the Underground

[Norm Baugher]

Damn straight, it's very good - good eye.
Norm

frank theriault wrote:
> I'm still sifting through the couple of hundred shots that Claire, my
> youngest daughter took this weekend with my *istD.  (For those of you
> who missed yesterday's posts, Claire, 14, was visiting me - I took a
> film camera while she shot with the Digital).
>
> I'm getting scared now.  This photo (IMHO) is really really good!
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=ptpEtShwrG
>
> As yesterday, Claire would really appreciate your comments.  On her
> behalf, thanks!
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: GFM check list

[frank theriault]

On 5/22/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, I'll have my Mini BBQ, and i'll pick up 3-4 bottles of propane, my
> two burner coleman type stove, a 100 litre cooler and a 60 litre
> cooler. Frank had the peculator for coffee, but i'll pick one up to
> cover.
> Anyone have a coleman latern or such.
>
> Several ex cords and at least 1 power bar. Laptop and a s&&t load of
> photographic stuff. 3-4 120 and 35mm B&W rolls.
>
> Anyone else want to add to the list.

Hey, Dave,

I gotta give you something to give to Mark anyway - why don't we meet
up before you leave and I'll give you my percolator...

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Christian]

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Fernando wrote:
> Nicely done, as usual
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Fernando
> 
> On 5/23/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Bruce Dayton]

Excellent - sharp and great color - though there seems to be a slight
magenta cast to me.

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Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:52:18 AM, you wrote:

C> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v

C> This is a crested caracara (Caracara cheriway).  Kinda like an eagle
C> crossed with a vulture.

C> The ranch owner had a 3-person blind set up at the top of a slope with
C> some nice perches (logs, dead trees) and a pond downslope.  It was 
C> angled perfectly to catch the afternoon sunlight.  Unfortunately for 2
C> of the three days it was totally overcast.  I got lucky on the only day
C> we saw a sunset when it was my turn in the "hawk blind."  The caracaras
C> where baited in with dead cow parts (heart, kidneys, liver, etc.) and
C> got pretty close.

C> I kinda like this shot because it is a little different view of a raptor.

C> For pixel-peepers: 20D 500mm F4L IS with 1.4x TC mounted on a Manfrotto
C> 055Pro with Studioball and Wimberley sidekick.  F8 1/200 ISO 100.  A
C> little fill flash.  Converted in ACR and edited in PSCS2 with minimal
C> sharpening and corrections for web display.  Cropped slightly to a 4x5
C> format for future printing but pretty much full frame (I'm thinking
C> it'll look nice 16x20).


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Re: Don't want to sound too alarmist but...

[John Forbes]

On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:45:21 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>
>> Tom, you're nearly there.  It's because bodies are more likely to fail
>> that I would be keen to buy a couple and that way ensure that my lenses
>> could still be used.  I wouldn't buy more lenses because eventually  
>> there
>> would be no body to use them on.  That would be a waste.
>
> All this is hypothetical of course. It's not the path I would take  
> John.  I
> understand the logic that gets you there and that's fine for you.  I just
> think it's short-sighted.  Not only might you end up with lenses and  
> camera
> bodies that don't work due to age, you could have an accident and lose a
> camera body that way as well.  You'll have spent extra money on dinosaur
> bodies, when you could have bought into a system that has a future.
>
> Your last sentence somes up my reasoning.  Eventually there will be no  
> body
> to use them on.
>
>>
>> > Who knows what advancements could be made in digital picture  
>> technology
>> > in 5 - 10 years?
>>
>> Not much, judging by how little progress there has been in the last two
>> years.  As I said, this is a technology that is now quite mature.  The
>> K10D is remarkable for its feature set and its price.  It doesn't break
>> any new ground technologically.
>>
>
> Five years from now, what if you could get a 20+ MP body for around the
> price of a K10D? You hypothetical actions are sort of investing in the  
> past
> instead of investing in the future.
>
> Tom C.

It's just economics, Tom.  For hundreds of dollars I could prolong the use  
of my lovely Pentax lenses for many years.  To switch would cost thousands.

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PESO 2007 - 23d - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Enjoying working with and learning the Panny L1 ... Taken using the  
Live View mode, camera at waist level, manual focus by scale:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/23d.htm

Comments, critique, flames all appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: PESO 2007 - 23c - GDG

[frank theriault]

On 5/22/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  From a walk in San Francisco:
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/23c.htm
>
> Comments, Critique, Whatever all appreciated.

Well composed!

Like the colours, too.

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Re: PESO - Caracara

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>For pixel-peepers: 20D

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Re: PESO: plant type thing

[Norm Baugher]

I'm not into flower thingies, but I love the color...
Norm

cbwaters wrote:
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2868595#155351145-L-LB
>
> Taken at the Botanical/sculpture garden thingie in Grand Rapids.
>
> CW
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Re: PESO - Chester

[frank theriault]

On 5/22/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe she's a natural. If so, she comes by it honestly. :)

On behalf of Claire, thanks to everyone who commented.  I'll pass your
thoughts along to her - I'm sure she'll be thrilled to hear what
everyone's been saying.

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Re: I'm outta here

[Cotty]

On 5/23/07, Mark Roberts

>> Enjoy yourself. I love road trips. I almost wish Grandfather Mountain
>> was further away :)

On 23/5/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>It is for me.:-)

Who's travelling the longest distance this year? I gather there's an
Australian coming along  but I mean in the civilised world...

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Re: I'm outta here

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You don't have to be very big to have a B&B, Tom.

LOL

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Re: I'm outta here

[Cotty]

On 23/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Tommorrow should be a good day for William.
>
>Dinner consists of:
>
>Alder-apple smoked salmon (brined and smoked myself) for the appetizer, 
>paired with a very slightly cool ruby-red cherry-nosed Pinot Noir.
>
>1lb grilled beef ribsteak seasoned and quick-seared
>
>Sweet potato french fries sprinkled with fresh cracked pepper and sea salt
>
>Fresh green salad
>
>Served with a bottle of 2005 Norton Malbec and a sweeping mountain vista
>
>Who knows what later?

Good God - you've organised dinner 24 hours in advance?? I think my
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Re: PESO 2007 - 23c - GDG

[Russell Kerstetter]

I like it.  Is there a new theme starting here for you (door-knobs,
kitchens, trees, graffiti)?

Russ

On 5/22/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  From a walk in San Francisco:
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/23c.htm
>
> Comments, Critique, Whatever all appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: PESO - Caracara

[David J Brooks]

On 5/23/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Dave.  It could be worse...  one guy shooting with us that
> weekend had a  Nikon! (ok, worse than a Nikon, it was a FAKE Nikon
> Fuji S5!)  He also had the smallest lens of the group, poor sod, the
> 200-400/4 VR.  We tried not to laugh when he pulled it out but, really,
> it was difficult not to snigger a little bit.  Then there was the towel
> snapping incident, but that's a story for another time... :-)

A 200-400, poor lad indeed. Was the man at the end of that towel Arthur Dent

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>
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
> > Great shot. Nice colours on the bird.
> >
> > Not bad for a Canon.:-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 5/23/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/396c5v
> >>
> >> This is a crested caracara (Caracara cheriway).  Kinda like an eagle
> >> crossed with a vulture.
> >>
> >
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Re: I'm outta here

[frank theriault]

On 5/23/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> See you'all in a couple of weeks, except for those of you'all who I will see
> in a couple of days, and the others of you'all who I will see at GFM.
>

I'll miss ya this year, Bill.

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Re: peso Dune

[frank theriault]

On 5/19/07, Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually a very small dune on a very large beach:
>
> http://leende.net/galleries/Terschelling%202007/duin3_med.htm
>
> Noordvaarder, Terschelling.

I like it a lot!

Beautiful.

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