Re: FID (Film is Dead)

[mike wilson]

Malcolm Smith wrote:
> John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> 
>>I use both digital and film. I do so because ->BOTH<- fill 
>>some desire, some need I have for capturing an image. And I'm 
>>not alone.
> 
> 
> You're not, but at times you'd think you were. I know that when I use a film
> camera where other people are using cameras, I'm usually (read 99% of the
> time) the only film user. I also don't particularly like the comments that
> some folk make about 'updating to digital' to me as though I'd never heard
> of such a thing and or imagined film might be a choice for me. Or maybe it
> is that unusual now?

I like being different. 8-)

WRT being "told" about digital, I've started explaining, as you would to 
a child, that I have big hands and therefore couldn't possibly consider 
downsizing.

> 
> A real dinosaur user of slide film; yet I love the wait for my processed
> film to return. At the same time I love my *ist D as a replacement for
> colour print film and the million and one other uses I'm sure I said I'd
> never use it for - and have and never regretted.
> 
> There is still one film camera I'd like, but strangely in this digital
> world, prices of film cameras haven't plunged to nothing yet by some way.
> I'd also like a K10D - but other than 'would like one', I can't think of a
> convincing reason to get one, although I suspect the K10D will slip in price
> first!

I was looking at the Samsung version yesterday.  Just over £400 with the 
18-55.  _Much_ more robust and serious-looking (if you get my drift) 
that the equivalent-priced competition.

> 
> So here we are in the latter part of 2007 and still film and digital have a
> home here. I suspect how long it remains so will be more down to supply and
> cost of slide film.

Ditto.  I have taken the precaution of laying in a few years' supply and 
buying a processor.

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Re: YAOTVQ (Yet Another Off Topic Volvo Question)

[Angel Ramos]

Bob,
I used to drive a company provided Ford Taurus station wagon,   I used 
it for a couple of years, at around 6 to 9 months of usage, I began 
having problems with it in a way that between 11:00am to 4:30 pm or so, 
and if the date was hot ( well I live in Puerto Rico) the engine will 
began loosing power and all of the sudden will shut off like with no 
gas.   It did it in tolls stops everywhere specially when coasting or 
going into a stop.  I just used to wait 30 minutes or so, and try to 
start it and most of the times the engine will work like nothing had 
happened.  I sent the wagon to the shop and they replaced the defective 
gas pump.  This pump was installed inside the gas tank,  but still it 
was affected by temperature. 
Regards
Angel Ramos

Bob Shell wrote:
> I hope no one minds me asking this here, but I got more help here  
> last time than on the car lists.
>
> Volvo 940 Turbo Wagon, 1991 model.
>
> Right now we're having a spell of really HOT weather.  When the car  
> sits all day in the sun it won't start.  I've narrowed the problem  
> down to the fuel pump.  When really hot you turn the ignition key to  
> the accessory position and the pump doesn't start.  Wait until the  
> evening when it's a bit cooler and the pump runs and the car starts  
> just fine.  Pump is getting electricity, so doesn't seem to be a  
> problem of it not getting power.
>
>  From what I see on line, it looks like this car suffers the dual  
> pump affliction, one in the tank and one up top outside the tank.  I  
> haven't dropped the tank yet.
>
> Any ideas why such a weather related problem?
>
> Bob
>
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Re: I really really hate my Epson or...

[David Savage]

On 8/9/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Rant]
> I have an Epson Stylus Photo 925.
> I hate it.
> Really.
> It's the worst thing I own.


I feel your pain. I used to like mine, then I hated it, then I loved
it, then I loathed it. Nowadays all is right with the world.

When I first got it I was impressed with the clarity & resolution of
the prints. Then time moved on, I got more critical, & I started to
hate it because it never printed the colours as I saw them on the
screen.

I then learnt about colour management, and my prints started coming
out how I wanted them too. I thought "Woo Hoo, I love this thing"

Then I started getting banding in my prints that no amount of cleaning
cycles could completely get rid of. I even resorted to pulling the
damn thing apart and tried to clean the head manually with a syringe &
a rubber tube.

First with Windex (I had read that this worked for some people). No good.

Then I tried water, warm water, warm soapy water. Still no good.

Lastly, with my patience gone & my blood pressure through the roof I
tried Isopropanol. Still no f&[EMAIL PROTECTED] good (I came very close to 
throwing
the bloody thing across the room at that point).

I eventually gave up and got an R2400. Printing has been bliss since I
got it & all is right in my printing world.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Gallery Format Tweeked, input requested was[Re: GESO -- Stony Creek]

[Kenneth Waller]

Nicely done gallery - no nits to pick.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gallery Format Tweeked, input requested was[Re: GESO -- Stony 
Creek]


> Well I'm going to try again.  I think maybe two people responded last
> time.  I've tried to incorporate the suggestions.  The original caveats
> apply, but I'd appreciate any comments.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/stonycreek/gallerystonycreek.html
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>> I've been putting off organizing my PESOs and other on line images,
>> (and at the moment I have a lot of spare time on my hands), so I put
>> together a HTML only Gallery prototype.  There's nothing there that I
>> haven't posted as a PESO before, but I've collected the Stony Creek
>> images into a small gallery.  I'd appreciate feedback on look, feel, and
>> navagation.  If you haven't seen a picture before you can comment on
>> those two.  These were taken over the last couple of years using both
>> the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.
>>
>> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/stonycreek/gallerystonycreek.html
>>
>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>>
>>
>
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Gallery Format Tweeked, input requested was[Re: GESO -- Stony Creek]

[P. J. Alling]

Well I'm going to try again.  I think maybe two people responded last 
time.  I've tried to incorporate the suggestions.  The original caveats 
apply, but I'd appreciate any comments.

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/stonycreek/gallerystonycreek.html


P. J. Alling wrote:
> I've been putting off organizing my PESOs and other on line images,  
> (and at the moment I have a lot of spare time on my hands), so I put 
> together a HTML only Gallery prototype.  There's nothing there that I 
> haven't posted as a PESO before, but I've collected the Stony Creek 
> images into a small gallery.  I'd appreciate feedback on look, feel, and 
> navagation.  If you haven't seen a picture before you can comment on 
> those two.  These were taken over the last couple of years using both 
> the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/stonycreek/gallerystonycreek.html
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
>   


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Re: 15 Volt Battery for flash bulbs

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

Radio Shack offers the Eveready 504 15volt online.

Otis Wright

Brian Walters wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Scott's thread on flash bulbs got me wondering about trying some bulbs and 
> flash cubes that I've stashed away.  I've thought about this before but I've 
> never been able to find any of the 15 volt batteries that are needed to fire 
> them.
>
> Anyone know of an online source - or even if they are still available?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
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Re: I really really hate my Epson or...

[Kenneth Waller]

You must be cursed!
I'm currently the owner of 3 Epson printers - The original Stylus Photo 
(going on 10 years old), 2000P (around 4 years old) & a recent R220 (a 
little more than 1 yr old) all continue to produce prints & text flawlessly. 
I shut them all off @ the printer & use only Epson products in them. I have 
only had to clean the two older printers occasionally.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I really really hate my Epson or...


> My experience with Epson printers (4 of them) is that the expensive
> ones are marvelous.  The cheap ones are crap.  I threw out two cheap
> ones behaving pretty much like yours (only I got about 1 year out of
> them first).  So I concur to throw it out and then decide what to
> replace it with.  If you are not willing to spend at least $400 for a
> new one, get an HP or Canon instead.
>
> -- 
> Bruce
>
>
> Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 6:19:39 PM, you wrote:
>
> MM> On 8/8/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [Rant]
>>> I have an Epson Stylus Photo 925.
>>> I hate it.
>>> Really.
>>> It's the worst thing I own.
>
> MM> If it makes you feel any better, my 820 is the same way. And when I
> MM> can budget to replace it, I will. Everything I've
> MM> seen/heard/experienced about the latest generation of Epsons, with the
> MM> Ultrachrome inks, are much better.
>
> MM> -Mat


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Re: PESO - Cabbagetown Cat

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

>Cabbagetown is a former working-class area of Toronto, so named
>because the Irish-Catholic inhabitants cooked a lot of boiled cabbage
>- the smell was said to permeate the streets.
>
>Now many of the Victorian rowhouses have been bought by Yuppies and
>the area is becoming quite gentrified.
>
>It's a lovely place for a walkabout, and a couple of weekends I caught
>this fellow, following our progress (WARNING:  Cat Alert - do not open
>if you have any aversion to felines):
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2av5z4
>
love it
ann

>
>http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrMaD7MIt0I/Agw/iAwr8wwRi_E/s1600-h/aug_3+001.jpg
>
>Comments welcome.
>
>thanks,
>frank
>
>  
>



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Re: I really really hate my Epson or...

[Bruce Dayton]

My experience with Epson printers (4 of them) is that the expensive
ones are marvelous.  The cheap ones are crap.  I threw out two cheap
ones behaving pretty much like yours (only I got about 1 year out of
them first).  So I concur to throw it out and then decide what to
replace it with.  If you are not willing to spend at least $400 for a
new one, get an HP or Canon instead.

-- 
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Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 6:19:39 PM, you wrote:

MM> On 8/8/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [Rant]
>> I have an Epson Stylus Photo 925.
>> I hate it.
>> Really.
>> It's the worst thing I own.

MM> If it makes you feel any better, my 820 is the same way. And when I
MM> can budget to replace it, I will. Everything I've
MM> seen/heard/experienced about the latest generation of Epsons, with the
MM> Ultrachrome inks, are much better.

MM> -Mat




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Re: 15 Volt Battery for flash bulbs

[graywolf]

I am not sure any but a few of the early flashcubes and maybe AG1's actually 
need 15v. The later flashcubes, IIRC, were fired by a piezo-electric gizmo. 
Regular flashbulbs usually worked OK with 3-4.5V. However if you are talking 
about those miniature fanfold flashguns you may have to rig something up to 
fit, I think there is a 12v battery for security devices that may work. I do 
not think Radio Shack still can get you about any battery, they have changed so 
much.

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> Hi all
> 
> Scott's thread on flash bulbs got me wondering about trying some bulbs and 
> flash cubes that I've stashed away.  I've thought about this before but I've 
> never been able to find any of the 15 volt batteries that are needed to fire 
> them.
> 
> Anyone know of an online source - or even if they are still available?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters
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Re: I really really hate my Epson or...

[Mat Maessen]

On 8/8/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Rant]
> I have an Epson Stylus Photo 925.
> I hate it.
> Really.
> It's the worst thing I own.

If it makes you feel any better, my 820 is the same way. And when I
can budget to replace it, I will. Everything I've
seen/heard/experienced about the latest generation of Epsons, with the
Ultrachrome inks, are much better.

-Mat

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Re: I really really hate my Epson or...

[Jack Davis]

Cory, I'm helping you hate it! Hope you get the demons excised before
your hater melts.

Jack
--- cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [Rant]
> I have an Epson Stylus Photo 925.
> I hate it.
> Really.
> It's the worst thing I own.
> 
> Every time I need to use it I have to run through the cleaning cycle
> because 
> it's clogged and can't print one or more colors.  The damned thing
> can't 
> even print out text without trying five times and cleaning the heads
> three 
> times.  I know I use 80% if every ink package in the damned cleaning 
> process.
> Quite often, after two or three cleanings, I will get a decent page
> printed 
> but it's covered in the excess ink that was used to unclog the
> heads...
> Then the thing feeds itself three sheets of paper because it's too
> stupid 
> not to
> 
> I have had this printer for probably three years now and I honestly
> do not 
> remember ever getting a print of a photo made without trying at least
> five 
> times.
> 
> I have not printed a photo of mine in more than a year because it's
> such a 
> huge pain in the ass.
> 
> It's the most consistently frustrating thing I own.
> I'm about to pitch it in the trash
> 
> except
> 
> I know other people who have this printer and like it.  Bill Owens
> had it 
> and made a print from a photo that I sent him.. it turned out great.
>   And... I'd have to get another printer and what if it's just as
> bad?
> 
> It could be me, after all.  I might be the one.  maybe I am cursed. 
> I could 
> mature into the bestest darned photographer in town only I can't make
> a 
> print, ever.
> 
> Who knows.
> 
> I'm just really really mad at this printer right now.
> 
> Cory
> who needed to make like three prints for his daughter for a homework 
> assignment on the first day of school and failed miserably.
> 
> 
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Re: PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia

[Fernando]

Great colors and composition, beautiful image.

On 8/8/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/08/rocky-cove-hornby-island-bc/
>
> Another photo from my trip to Vancouver Island.  This one is from
> Hornby Island, a small island that's so typical of the west coast.
> Lots of quaint shops, famers markets, and old bearded men in little
> Toyota trucks.
>
> I really feel as though I hit my stride on this trip.  So much, in
> fact, that I feel a little photographically exhausted, even 3 weeks
> later! :)
>
> Comments, critiques welcome!
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Mike
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I really really hate my Epson or...

[cbwaters]

[Rant]
I have an Epson Stylus Photo 925.
I hate it.
Really.
It's the worst thing I own.

Every time I need to use it I have to run through the cleaning cycle because 
it's clogged and can't print one or more colors.  The damned thing can't 
even print out text without trying five times and cleaning the heads three 
times.  I know I use 80% if every ink package in the damned cleaning 
process.
Quite often, after two or three cleanings, I will get a decent page printed 
but it's covered in the excess ink that was used to unclog the heads...
Then the thing feeds itself three sheets of paper because it's too stupid 
not to

I have had this printer for probably three years now and I honestly do not 
remember ever getting a print of a photo made without trying at least five 
times.

I have not printed a photo of mine in more than a year because it's such a 
huge pain in the ass.

It's the most consistently frustrating thing I own.
I'm about to pitch it in the trash

except

I know other people who have this printer and like it.  Bill Owens had it 
and made a print from a photo that I sent him.. it turned out great.
  And... I'd have to get another printer and what if it's just as bad?

It could be me, after all.  I might be the one.  maybe I am cursed.  I could 
mature into the bestest darned photographer in town only I can't make a 
print, ever.

Who knows.

I'm just really really mad at this printer right now.

Cory
who needed to make like three prints for his daughter for a homework 
assignment on the first day of school and failed miserably.



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Re: PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia

[Bruce Dayton]

Yes, another nice shot.  You did well on this trip.

-- 
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Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 1:07:46 PM, you wrote:

MH> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/08/rocky-cove-hornby-island-bc/

MH> Another photo from my trip to Vancouver Island.  This one is from
MH> Hornby Island, a small island that's so typical of the west coast.
MH> Lots of quaint shops, famers markets, and old bearded men in little
MH> Toyota trucks.

MH> I really feel as though I hit my stride on this trip.  So much, in
MH> fact, that I feel a little photographically exhausted, even 3 weeks
MH> later! :)

MH> Comments, critiques welcome!

MH> Enjoy.

MH> Mike




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PESO 2007 - 33e - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The theme continues to develop ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/33e.htm

Comments, critique, etc always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey
   www.gdgphoto.com

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Re: PESO - Jazz Trumpet revisited

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:49 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Here's Godfrey's rendering of the PESO that I posted a few days ago:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2chjnt
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrocN7MIuFI/Ai4/ 
> AteeVPuAhNU/s1600-h/tim_hamel-gdg.jpg
>
> I like it - hope you do to.
>
> Thanks, Godfrey!

You're welcome. I'm glad you like it. :-)

Godfrey

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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[Juan Buhler]

On 8/8/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wonder what this will do to websites like Flickr. Their bandwidth usage
> could potentially skyrocket, and people will probably start deleting photos
> in an attempt to keep their images from getting used.

I'm at SIGGRAPH in San Diego where that paper was presented on Monday.
Actually one of the authors is a friend of a good friend of mine. They
use, and acknowledge it, images from Flickr, those under Creative
Commons licenses.

The full paper is downloadable from the link below, for those who are
technically inclined.

http://graphics.cs.cmu.edu/projects/scene-completion/


While you are at it, check out this other one:

http://www.faculty.idc.ac.il/arik/

(look at the pdf of the first publication, called "Seam Carving for
Content-Aware Image Resizing" --there's a video there too)

It is an incredibly simple technique, so much so that I'm amazed it
wasn't done 10-15 years ago. The results are pretty impressive, too.
I'm going to try and implement it in the next couple of weeks. I'll
share it with the list when I do.

j


>
> >
> > I wonder if it replaces ugly people?
> >
>
> Can anything really replace ugly people?
> Besides, we need them to keep the bar at a reasonable level.
>
> William Robb
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Re: PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia

[Mike Hamilton]

On 8-Aug-07, at 4:52 PM, Frank wrote:

> On 8/8/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/08/rocky-cove-hornby-island-bc/
>>
>> Another photo from my trip to Vancouver Island.  This one is from
>> Hornby Island, a small island that's so typical of the west coast.
>> Lots of quaint shops, famers markets, and old bearded men in little
>> Toyota trucks.
>>
>> I really feel as though I hit my stride on this trip.  So much, in
>> fact, that I feel a little photographically exhausted, even 3 weeks
>> later! :)
>>
>> Comments, critiques welcome!
>>
>
> Gorgeous photo of what appears to be an aptly-named place.
>
> cheers,
> frank

Thanks, Frank.  As far as I know, the place doesn't have an official  
name, but Rocky Cove is the name I chose. :)

It should be back from the Printer tomorrow.

Mike

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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Cotty wrote:

> It had to happen sooner or later...
> 

'The blood never looks really real until you see it on the viddy.'

Godfrey


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Re: YAOTVQ (Yet Another Off Topic Volvo Question)

[Mat Maessen]

On 8/8/07, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right now we're having a spell of really HOT weather.  When the car
> sits all day in the sun it won't start.  I've narrowed the problem
> down to the fuel pump.  When really hot you turn the ignition key to
> the accessory position and the pump doesn't start.  Wait until the
> evening when it's a bit cooler and the pump runs and the car starts
> just fine.  Pump is getting electricity, so doesn't seem to be a
> problem of it not getting power.

Fuel pump relay.

Located in the cluster of relays inside the dashboard.

I'd put money on that being the culprit.

-Mat

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Re: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Hi Ken,

Thanks - I was going for a 'moody' feel but perhaps overdid it a bit.


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Quoting Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> A little dark for my taste, but otherwise I like it.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: Skeletons
> 
> 
> > Hi all
> >
> > Going though some old images I came across this one shot
> originally with a 
> > Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple of years ago to
> Kodak 
> > Photo CD but the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to see
> whether a B&W 
> > conversion would be better.
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Marnie.

Yes, others have commented on the lower left so I'll have another look at it.

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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> In a message dated 8/8/2007 2:02:05 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi all
> 
> Going though some  old images I came across this one shot
> originally with a 
> Super A on  Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple of years ago to
> Kodak Photo 
> CD but  the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to see whether a B&W
> conversion 
> would  be  better.
> 
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
> 
> 
> Comments,  plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace 
> (mostly)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ==
> Nice, nice.  I like the forms and reflections. I'd lighten the LL
> corner 
> though, bit dark.  Anyway, yes, that was one worth retrieving.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Bruce.

Yes, definitely better in B&W but I probably should try to get a good colour 
scan done of the original.  The Photo CD scan was just plain awful in terms of 
colour.


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Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Yes, this works.  Possibly better in B&W.  Nice mood presented.
> Definitely worth showing.
> 
> -- 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 1:43:36 AM, you wrote:
> 
> BW> Hi all
> 
> BW> Going though some old images I came across this one shot
> BW> originally with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a
> BW> couple of years ago to Kodak Photo CD but the scan was pretty
> BW> ordinary - decided to see whether a B&W conversion would be
> better.
> 
> BW> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Hi Fernando

Thanks for the kind words.


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Quoting Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> Very nice, I like the perspective and shapes, I can see a triangle
> formed by the tip of the branches and the shadows/reflections on
> the
> water that drive my eye from left to right, and the B&W gives a
> nice
> mood. Did I say I like it?
> 
> On 8/8/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Going though some old images I came across this one shot
> originally with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple
> of years ago to Kodak Photo CD but the scan was pretty ordinary -
> decided to see whether a B&W conversion would be better.
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
> >
> >
> > Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace
> (mostly)
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
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Re: Optio W10/20/30 users - opinions?

[Thibouille]

yeah a stupid marketing trick ;)

2007/8/8, Henk Terhell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thibouille
>
> The W30 does have digital SR.
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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Dave.


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Quoting David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I like this one very much Brian.
> 
> Good B&W job, very stark and errie
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 8/8/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Going though some old images I came across this one shot
> originally with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple
> of years ago to Kodak Photo CD but the scan was pretty ordinary -
> decided to see whether a B&W conversion would be better.
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
> >
> >
> > Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace
> (mostly)
> >
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15 Volt Battery for flash bulbs

[Brian Walters]

Hi all

Scott's thread on flash bulbs got me wondering about trying some bulbs and 
flash cubes that I've stashed away.  I've thought about this before but I've 
never been able to find any of the 15 volt batteries that are needed to fire 
them.

Anyone know of an online source - or even if they are still available?


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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Jack.

Others have commented on the lower left corner as well - I'll have another look 
at that.

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Quoting Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Very nice, Brian! Stark with good resolution. Lower left corner is
> somewhat murky perhaps, but, overall, well done.
> 
> Jack
> --- Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Going though some old images I came across this one shot
> originally
> > with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple of years
> ago
> > to Kodak Photo CD but the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to
> see
> > whether a B&W conversion would be better.
> > 
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
> > 
> > 
> > Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace
> (mostly)
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Brian
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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Godfrey.

Yes, I'll have another look at the lower left.

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Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:43 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
> 
> Certainly no longer "ordinary" !! :-)
> Looks great. The lower-left is a little heavy.
> 
> Great stuff!
> 
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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[Doug Brewer]

On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:54 PM, graywolf wrote:

> To be honest the most joy I get out of photography these days is  
> when I try to hand the Speed Graphic to someone who considers  
> himself to be an expert photographer and he puts his hands in his  
> pockets looking bewildered. Maybe I should learn how to make hand  
> coated glass plates...

Seriously, Tom, that's not getting joy out of photography. That's  
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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Dave.

The colour original looked quite good but Photo CD scans can be very 'hit or 
miss'.  This one definitely missed!  Just as well, probably, otherwise I might 
not have tried the conversion.



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Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Good one Brian.
> 
> The B&W conversion works really well too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 8/8/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Going though some old images I came across this one shot
> originally with a Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple
> of years ago to Kodak Photo CD but the scan was pretty ordinary -
> decided to see whether a B&W conversion would be better.
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
> >
> >
> > Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace
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> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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RE: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha linewas:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

[Bob W]

I thought everyone wore high heels when they were replying to the
PDML. I know I do.

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> ...And in high heels!
> 
> Anything else we should be made aware of?
> 
> 
> 
> Holly Hegeman wrote:
> > On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> If you're talking about the A100K and A100H, those are just  
> >> different Lens/Body kits. Sony has been showing off models of two

> >> new higher-end bodies though.
> >>
> >> -Adam
> >> 
> >
> > Oops. Didn't mean to repeat what you said Adam. That's what 
> I get for  
> > answering emails backwards. (And in high heels!) No, not really.
> >
> > -Holly
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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[P. J. Alling]

I think I'm going to be sick.

Cotty wrote:
> It had to happen sooner or later...
>
> 
>
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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Fernando"
Subject: Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers


> Holy C.. I just realized I could had saved time&money not going on
> vacation and stealing other ppl photos...

I wonder what this will do to websites like Flickr. Their bandwidth usage 
could potentially skyrocket, and people will probably start deleting photos 
in an attempt to keep their images from getting used.

>
> I wonder if it replaces ugly people?
>

Can anything really replace ugly people?
Besides, we need them to keep the bar at a reasonable level.

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Re: PESO -- Warning! No lifegaurd on duty!

[frank theriault]

On 8/8/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looking for a way to cool off, I found this, taken a couple of winters ago.
>
>  http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20notonduty.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D/smc Pentax 20-35mm f4.0 AL
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

The light is gorgeous.

I like this a lot.

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Re: PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia

[frank theriault]

On 8/8/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/08/rocky-cove-hornby-island-bc/
>
> Another photo from my trip to Vancouver Island.  This one is from
> Hornby Island, a small island that's so typical of the west coast.
> Lots of quaint shops, famers markets, and old bearded men in little
> Toyota trucks.
>
> I really feel as though I hit my stride on this trip.  So much, in
> fact, that I feel a little photographically exhausted, even 3 weeks
> later! :)
>
> Comments, critiques welcome!
>

Gorgeous photo of what appears to be an aptly-named place.

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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[graywolf]

There come a time, when the only question left is "why bother, when the robot 
can do it better anyway". 

To be honest the most joy I get out of photography these days is when I try to 
hand the Speed Graphic to someone who considers himself to be an expert 
photographer and he puts his hands in his pockets looking bewildered. Maybe I 
should learn how to make hand coated glass plates...

Which reminds me of a guy who I met as a kid. He apparently had saved all his 
bad glass plate negatives, eventually cleaned them off, and made a greenhouse 
out of them. Try that with your SD Cards.

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> 
> 
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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[Scott Loveless]

Cotty wrote:
> It had to happen sooner or later...
>
> 
>
>   
Look for it in newspapers nationwide!

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Re: Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[Fernando]

Holy C.. I just realized I could had saved time&money not going on
vacation and stealing other ppl photos...

I wonder if it replaces ugly people?

On 8/8/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> 
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Astonishing Photo Tool can fix your duffers....

[Cotty]

It had to happen sooner or later...



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Re: PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia

[Kenneth Waller]

Well done. I especially like your perspective.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia


> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/08/rocky-cove-hornby-island-bc/
> 
> Another photo from my trip to Vancouver Island.  This one is from  
> Hornby Island, a small island that's so typical of the west coast.   
> Lots of quaint shops, famers markets, and old bearded men in little  
> Toyota trucks.
> 
> I really feel as though I hit my stride on this trip.  So much, in  
> fact, that I feel a little photographically exhausted, even 3 weeks  
> later! :)
> 
> Comments, critiques welcome!
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
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PESO - Cabbagetown Cat

[frank theriault]

Cabbagetown is a former working-class area of Toronto, so named
because the Irish-Catholic inhabitants cooked a lot of boiled cabbage
- the smell was said to permeate the streets.

Now many of the Victorian rowhouses have been bought by Yuppies and
the area is becoming quite gentrified.

It's a lovely place for a walkabout, and a couple of weekends I caught
this fellow, following our progress (WARNING:  Cat Alert - do not open
if you have any aversion to felines):

http://tinyurl.com/2av5z4

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrMaD7MIt0I/Agw/iAwr8wwRi_E/s1600-h/aug_3+001.jpg

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Re: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

[P. J. Alling]

But with different names, thus my homage to marketing.

Holly Hegeman wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>   
>> What John said about Sony Alpha Lenses peaked my curiosity, so I  
>> took a
>> little side trip to view the Sony Alpha page.  Sony shows now shows
>> three DSLR offerings, but get this, if you look at the details the  
>> only
>> things that seem to be different between the three is the Name and  
>> Price...
>> Ah, marketing.
>> 
>
> They are all Sony Alpha 100s. The only difference is 1) is without a  
> lens, and 2) and 3) have different lens options.
>
> Same camera.
>
> -Holly
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Re: PESO -- Warning! No lifegaurd on duty!

[Kenneth Waller]

The post in the foreground is pretty distracting - too bad.

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- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: PESO -- Warning! No lifegaurd on duty!


> Looking for a way to cool off, I found this, taken a couple of winters 
> ago.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20notonduty.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D/smc Pentax 20-35mm f4.0 AL
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Re: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

[P. J. Alling]

...And in high heels!

Anything else we should be made aware of?



Holly Hegeman wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>   
>> If you're talking about the A100K and A100H, those are just  
>> different Lens/Body kits. Sony has been showing off models of two  
>> new higher-end bodies though.
>>
>> -Adam
>> 
>
> Oops. Didn't mean to repeat what you said Adam. That's what I get for  
> answering emails backwards. (And in high heels!) No, not really.
>
> -Holly
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Re: PESO - Cabbagetown Cat

[Kenneth Waller]

Cute Frank !
Looks like he's got your number!

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - Cabbagetown Cat


> Cabbagetown is a former working-class area of Toronto, so named
> because the Irish-Catholic inhabitants cooked a lot of boiled cabbage
> - the smell was said to permeate the streets.
>
> Now many of the Victorian rowhouses have been bought by Yuppies and
> the area is becoming quite gentrified.
>
> It's a lovely place for a walkabout, and a couple of weekends I caught
> this fellow, following our progress (WARNING:  Cat Alert - do not open
> if you have any aversion to felines):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2av5z4
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrMaD7MIt0I/Agw/iAwr8wwRi_E/s1600-h/aug_3+001.jpg
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> thanks,
> frank


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Re: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

[Holly Hegeman]

On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> If you're talking about the A100K and A100H, those are just  
> different Lens/Body kits. Sony has been showing off models of two  
> new higher-end bodies though.
>
> -Adam

Oops. Didn't mean to repeat what you said Adam. That's what I get for  
answering emails backwards. (And in high heels!) No, not really.

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PESO -- Rocky Cove, Hornby Island, British Columbia

[Mike Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/08/rocky-cove-hornby-island-bc/

Another photo from my trip to Vancouver Island.  This one is from  
Hornby Island, a small island that's so typical of the west coast.   
Lots of quaint shops, famers markets, and old bearded men in little  
Toyota trucks.

I really feel as though I hit my stride on this trip.  So much, in  
fact, that I feel a little photographically exhausted, even 3 weeks  
later! :)

Comments, critiques welcome!

Enjoy.

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Re: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

[Holly Hegeman]

On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> What John said about Sony Alpha Lenses peaked my curiosity, so I  
> took a
> little side trip to view the Sony Alpha page.  Sony shows now shows
> three DSLR offerings, but get this, if you look at the details the  
> only
> things that seem to be different between the three is the Name and  
> Price...
> Ah, marketing.

They are all Sony Alpha 100s. The only difference is 1) is without a  
lens, and 2) and 3) have different lens options.

Same camera.

-Holly

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PESO - Jazz Trumpet revisited

[frank theriault]

Here's Godfrey's rendering of the PESO that I posted a few days ago:

http://tinyurl.com/2chjnt

http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RrocN7MIuFI/Ai4/AteeVPuAhNU/s1600-h/tim_hamel-gdg.jpg

I like it - hope you do to.

Thanks, Godfrey!

Comments on this cleaned up version are welcome.

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RE: A flag question for Canadians

[Bob W]

> Except IMHO between the British and the French. Like an old married 
> couple, a millenium of warfare between us has earned us the right to

> insult each other as we like. Remember they call us Brits Les 
> Rosbifs; I 
> actually don't find that even slightly insulting. No more so than
you 
> ex-colonials calling us limeys, anyway.

they also call us les gueules de bois (literally 'wooden gobs').
Gueule is an animal's mouth. GB = Great Britain = Gueule de Bois. J'ai
la gueule de bois is an expression one utters after a night spent
drinking too much wine.

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Re: PESO - The Shopgirl - The Crop

[frank theriault]

On 8/8/07, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a brief look at this before, and happened to see the third crop
> first, and it really made me smile. Like many others, I think the
> third crop is the best of the presented candidates. I see absolutely
> no reason to try to improve the crop further.
>

Thanks, Jostein!

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Re: PESO - Jazz Trumpet

[frank theriault]

On 8/6/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I always said B&W looks great for Jazz and Blues artists.
>
> The noise does add, but it looks like noise , not film grain.
>
> I think there is a plug in to add film noise. I agree with Ken, maybe
> crop a bit from the ceilingh, other than that, nice shot and looks ok
> here on the uncal'd ibook
>

Thanks, Dave.

Godfrey did a "clean up" that I think I'll post.  It looks quite amazing.

I appreciate your input, along with everyone else's.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Sk8r

[frank theriault]

On 8/6/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW i like the shot Frank.

Thanks, Dave.

And thanks to everyone else who commented.

I'll revisit this one later, see how I can butcher it some more.  ;-)

I appreciate all comments;  in this case, all have been constructive.

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Re: OT: How not to break your wrist when falling from a bicycle

[frank theriault]

On 8/4/07, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> OTOH it wouldn't surprise me that riders at that level have crashed
> enough that they know how to react (or have even been advised/
> trained).  This is generally the case in offroad disciplines
> (mountain biking, urban, BMX).  Riders doing the big stuff always say
> that it's best to "ragdoll" as trying to control your tumbling will
> only result in a greater degree of injury.
>
> Another very common biking injury is broken collarbones, which often
> happens when a rider can't react fast enough and lands on their
> shoulder (this happened at least once in last years olympics).  It
> can also occur when they do react in time but put their arm out at
> full stretch, which transmits the impact force straight from wrist to
> collarbone.

I've separated one shoulder, broken the collarbone of the other.  I
can attest to the fact that the shoulders of a cyclist (at least a
road cyclist) are most vulnerable.

I know that I've never been taught how to fall, but for some reason,
I've always "naturally" rolled as I've fallen, and don't seem to have
the urge to stick my arm out.  Most times that's served me well;  I
suspect that the speed I was travelling in the above incidents caused
the injury in that I couldn't roll fast enough.  Still, I suspect that
injuries to my wrist, elbow, arm could have been much more severe than
what I ended up suffering.

It does rather look like the Tour de France riders in the video knew
how to fall.  They came off pretty well, all things considered.

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PESO -- Warning! No lifegaurd on duty!

[P. J. Alling]

Looking for a way to cool off, I found this, taken a couple of winters ago.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20notonduty.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D/smc Pentax 20-35mm f4.0 AL

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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[Kenneth Waller]

I guess they hadn't heard about the edict in Detroit. ;-}

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians


> 
> On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
>> The N-word recently got buried in Detroit by the NAACP.
>> Wonder why it took so long to do this ?
> 
> Someone needs to tell the local black teens.  I went to the bank  
> yesterday and a bunch of them were "hangin" on the sidewalk.  Seemed  
> like every other word was the N-word.
> 
> Bob


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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell"
Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians



>
>> The N-word recently got buried in Detroit by the NAACP.
>> Wonder why it took so long to do this ?
>
> Someone needs to tell the local black teens.  I went to the bank
> yesterday and a bunch of them were "hangin" on the sidewalk.  Seemed
> like every other word was the N-word.

It's a favourite term for our local native youth, you seem to take some sort 
of weird pride in being "red n**s"

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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"
Subject: Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)



> Thanks, Bill.  I was actually surprised that I could use X sync at all.
> My C220 lenses have X and M settings.  I had always assumed that the FP
> jack on the SLRs was the same as M.  Loading a short roll of tri-x and
> burning 3 or 4 bulbs ought to tell me what I can get away with.  Thanks
> again.  Much appreciated.

The difference between FP and M is how much before the shutter opens does 
the bulb get fired. Remember that your C220 is using a leaf shutter, which 
has a completely different exposure characteristic from a focal plane 
shutter.

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Re: Skeletons

[Kenneth Waller]

A little dark for my taste, but otherwise I like it.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: Skeletons


> Hi all
>
> Going though some old images I came across this one shot originally with a 
> Super A on Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple of years ago to Kodak 
> Photo CD but the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to see whether a B&W 
> conversion would be better.
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html
>
>
> Comments, plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace (mostly)
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
> 


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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[Bob Shell]

On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> The N-word recently got buried in Detroit by the NAACP.
> Wonder why it took so long to do this ?

Someone needs to tell the local black teens.  I went to the bank  
yesterday and a bunch of them were "hangin" on the sidewalk.  Seemed  
like every other word was the N-word.

Bob

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Re: YAOTVQ (Yet Another Off Topic Volvo Question)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell"
Subject: YAOTVQ (Yet Another Off Topic Volvo Question)



> Right now we're having a spell of really HOT weather.  When the car
> sits all day in the sun it won't start.  I've narrowed the problem
> down to the fuel pump.  When really hot you turn the ignition key to
> the accessory position and the pump doesn't start.  Wait until the
> evening when it's a bit cooler and the pump runs and the car starts
> just fine.  Pump is getting electricity, so doesn't seem to be a
> problem of it not getting power.
>
> From what I see on line, it looks like this car suffers the dual
> pump affliction, one in the tank and one up top outside the tank.  I
> haven't dropped the tank yet.
>
> Any ideas why such a weather related problem?

Check the ground wires to the pump to see if metal expansion is causing the 
connection to break. It's about the only think I can think of, presuming the 
problem is temperature related, and not a secondary effect of the warm 
temps.

William Robb 


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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Maas"

Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians


> Actually it makes perfect sense. THe Federal Civil Service need to be able 
> to serve to clients in both official languages. Therefore the govenment 
> needs to hire less people if everybody speaks both languages. Ergo a 
> preference for Bilinguals. And since French is the minority language, most 
> francophones learn English anyways, while most Anglophones don't need to 
> (except within Quebec). Canada does have a reasonably large population of 
> non-fluent Bilinguals as well (Like myself, schooled in both languages but 
> my French fluency has atrophied due to non-use).

It may make some sense in areas where there is a significant population of 
both languages, but both languages should still be equally served.
At present, this is anything but the situation.
Saskatchewan wouldn't have a Francophone population at all were it not for 
the federal civil service and forced bilingualism bringing Quebecers here.
What has happened in the west is that our inherent distrust of the Eastern 
cabal has been intensified by a very real observation that the federal civil 
service is run by and for French Canada, and by a general inability to 
obtain services or iformation from the federal government because the people 
we are talking to are often not fluent enough in English to be able to 
communicate sufficiently with us.
Regina has a much higher % of Chinese than French, it would make more sense 
to demand that civil servants be fluent in Mandarin than Quebec French.
My French has also atrophied due to lack of use, but my government funded 
education taught me a useless second language anyway.

I REALLY should be filtering this thread.

William Robb


> graywolf wrote:
>> That sounds like a well know practice called, "shooting yourself in the 
>> foot". If I had not read "The Human Zoo" I would think it very strange 
>> that so many cultures seem to be insane these days. In the end I suppose 
>> we will deal with over population by killing each other off in acts of 
>> mass destruction. And no, all the words in the world will not change 
>> things because we are hardwired that way. Pretending we aren't will not 
>> work either.
>>



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Re: New recycled PESO

[Kenneth Waller]

Very nice capture Mark!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New recycled PESO


> I've shown this photo before (I think), but this is a new B&W 
> conversion and crop:
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm
> 
> Taken with ist-D and a 200mm f/2.0 on my "primes only" bicycle tour of 
> France a couple of years ago. This is a back street in the city of 
> Tours. One of my few attempts at "street photography" ever :-)


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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[Kenneth Waller]

FYI -
The N-word recently got buried in Detroit by the NAACP. 
Wonder why it took so long to do this ? 

I wonder how long it will take for the H (Honky) word to be buried ?

Kenneth Waller
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From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians


> On 8/8/07, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I have French friends who call themselves "froggies" when they call
>> me, and some German friends who laughingly call themselves "krauts".
>> I think it's OK when they do it, and when it's done with a smile.  I
>> don't use those appellations when talking to them, though.
>>
> 
> An oppressed group (or one that perceives itself as oppressed) will
> often "take ownership" of offensive or bigoted language.  It's a way
> of defusing it, or throwing back in the face of the oppressor.
> 
> Some African Americans may choose to call themselves or others
> "niggers", but I don't think that it's advisable for a white person
> such as myself to use such language (except towards someone that I'm
> extremely intimate with.
> 
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: OT: How not to break your wrist when falling from a bicycle

[Kenneth Waller]

> In the Netherlands we have a "political party for the interest of 
> animals".

In the U. S. ours is called PETA - people for the ethical treatment of 
animals.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: OT: How not to break your wrist when falling from a bicycle


> In the Netherlands we have a "political party for the interest of 
> animals".
> I wonder if they have seen this clip. It would not surprise me when
> they would ask for measures for dogs watching sports events. ("must
> wear helmets", or something like that)
>
> Yes, I think too that they practice falling. OTOH, I do not think they
> practice being hit by living dogs...
>
> Syb
>
> 2007/8/8, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Yes, I think they practice falling. The guy in the green shirt
>> performs a classic "roll" over his shoulder that they teach in martial
>> arts. Notice also that they seem deliberate on letting clothes-covered
>> parts hit the ground first.
>>
>> Jostein
>>
>> 2007/8/4, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Here is an interesting video clip of a dog bringing down 2 of the Tour
>> > de France leaders:
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVVmiGl_Lb0
>> >
>> > I thought it was quite interesting that neither of them tried to break
>> > their fall by putting their hands out, which is how I broke my wrist.
>> > Do they train to fall that way?
>> >
>> > Bob


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Re: It's Live!: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Kenneth Waller]

> Now look what they've done.  With the announcement the server seems to
> have slowed to a crawl.

Yeah, I guess popularity/curiosity has its price. ;+}

Kenneth Waller
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: It's Live!: Pentax Photo Gallery


>
> It was not only Pentax website, but also dpreview.com who
> posted the link to the PPG on Aug. 6, almost slashdotting the Gallery
> together with Pentax USA.
>
>
> Tue Aug 7 13:59:34 EDT 2007
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
> Now look what they've done.  With the announcement the server seems to
> have slowed to a crawl.
>
> Igor Roshchin wrote:
>> I saw some people were looking for it recently, so, here it is.
>>
>> Pentaximaging.com (USA Pentax website) has announcement
>> about pentax photo gallery:
>> http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=10017565
>>
>> Igor


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Re: heavy weather ahead

[Kenneth Waller]

I'd like it more without the grate/fence along the bottom edge.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "syb vis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: heavy weather ahead


> Made some time ago...
> 
> http://fotodag.fotopic.net/p42545545.html
> 
> Heavy weather ahead. Would this old mill survive?
> 
> Well. Heavy weather in the Netherlands is not the same as elsewhere.
> Maybe you have much heavier examples.
> 
> However, since I am dutch, this is what I am used to. And I like the
> perspective...
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Syb


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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[P. J. Alling]

Mine was probably poorly adjusted.

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Thanks, Pete.  Based on what I've read the SP1000 and SP500 really 
> aren't all that different functionally.  I did mis-read the flash sync 
> chart for the SP500.  Both the 500 and 1000 manuals suggest maximum X 
> sync at 1/8 for M class bulbs and 1/15 for F class.  It's interesting 
> that you were able to get good exposures at 1/30.
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> My experience with flashbulbs and SLRs was with the SP1000.  I used it 
>> at x  1/30sec.  I did a bit of experimenting using FP sync., (m class 
>> bulbs not FP), but that turned out badly.  Prior to that I used flash 
>> bulbs with leaf shutter folders and box type cameras, a more or less 
>> flash and hope system.  Even 35 years ago flash bulbs were relatively 
>> expensive.  I figured out that an electronic flash at $45.00 would save 
>> me a ton of money in the long run so I bought one.
>>
>> Scott Loveless wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with 
>>> M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different 
>>> than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my 
>>> very near future. 
>>>
>>> And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some 
>>> experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the 
>>> situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm 
>>> suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX 
>>> and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual 
>>> recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of 
>>> photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too 
>>> much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)
>>>
>>> Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing 
>>> that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.
>>>
>>> Thanks a bunch, folks!
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO - On The Beach #1

[Kenneth Waller]

What he said.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: PESO - On The Beach #1


> Lovely colour and aerial feeling. However the eye-catcher elements are
> a bit too spaced out for my taste. I mean, the shadow in the lower
> right corner, the grass and the pebble. Like they make a space in the
> middle where something should have been, maybe...
>
> Jostein
>
> 2007/7/30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Been pretty busy the last couple of weeks, will  catch up with making 
>> PESO
>> comments soon.
>>
>> Last Saturday went to Half Moon  Bay for a photo class field trip (been
>> taking a landscape photography class  through adult ed with a very good
>> photographer as teacher).
>>
>> Took lots of  photos, this is one. Nothing fantastic, but sort of like 
>> it.
>>
>> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/beach1.htm
>>
>> Comments  welcome.
>>
>> Marnie aka Doe  :-)


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Re: PESO -- Main Street, 7:00PM, Saturday Night

[P. J. Alling]

I suppose, if you consider being near New Haven to be an advantage.

Rick Womer wrote:
> Ah... Google Maps comes through.  There it is, along
> I-395, hard by Moosup and Dayville and Brooklyn (CT).
>
> Been up and down 395 a few times, but can't say I ever
> noticed Danielson.  Guilford has the advantages of
> being on the Sound, and a lot closer to New Haven.
>
> Rick
>
> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Danielson, a decaying mill town, (Guilford avoided
>> that by going 
>> directly from Mill Town to Resort Town).  The old
>> mills in Guilford were 
>> converted to Condos thirty years ago.  In Danielson
>> those buildings are 
>> still empty.
>>
>> Rick Womer wrote:
>> 
>>> I like this.  The composition is busy, but
>>>   
>> appealing. 
>> 
>>> What town is it?  Looks a bit like parts of
>>>   
>> Guilford,
>> 
>>> but that town isn't waiting for gentrification!
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>   
>>>
>>>   
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WTB Kodachrome color calibration target

[Scott Loveless]

Anyone have one of these?  Kodak #Q-60K3 Color Calibration Target.  If 
you wouldn't mind parting with it, I'd be interested.

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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[Scott Loveless]

William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Scott Loveless"
> Subject: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)
>
>
>   
>> Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with
>> M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different
>> than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my
>> very near future.
>>
>> And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some
>> experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the
>> situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm
>> suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX
>> and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual
>> recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of
>> photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too
>> much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)
>>
>> Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing
>> that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.
>>
>> Thanks a bunch, folks!
>> 
>
> Bob Shell will know more about this (he has probably forgotten a thousand 
> times what I know) but I'll try.
> Unlike an electronic flash, a bulb flash is not instantaneous light. The 
> bulb has a warm-up time of several milliseconds prior to it reaching full 
> output. Some cameras have an X/M switch, X being for gas discharge flash 
> units, M being for flash bulbs.
> The M setting triggers the flash well in advance of the shutter being fully 
> open to allow the bulb to peak before the shutter opens fully.
> In the absence of a camera adjustment, the flash will be triggered when the 
> leading curtain fully opens. If the shutter speed is set too fast, the 
> trailing curtain will close before the bulb heats up fully, resulting in 
> (partial frame) underexposure and poor colour balance.
> Some bulbs heat up faster than others, and allow a faster shutter speed off 
> the X setting.
> This may not be accounted for in the camera owners manual, hence the 
> difference in recommendations from the bulb manufacturer and camera 
> documentation.
> For myself, I would follow the bulb manufacturers recommendation regarding 
> shutter speed, though you won't go wrong slowing things down a stop either, 
> providing ambient light levels will allow it.
>
> William Robb
>
>
>   
Thanks, Bill.  I was actually surprised that I could use X sync at all.  
My C220 lenses have X and M settings.  I had always assumed that the FP 
jack on the SLRs was the same as M.  Loading a short roll of tri-x and 
burning 3 or 4 bulbs ought to tell me what I can get away with.  Thanks 
again.  Much appreciated.

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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[graywolf]

Seems to parallel the film to digital thing that is going on right now. But 
flashbulbs were generally available for 25 years after strobe became the 
mainstream. There are new flashbulbs still being made, the big light bulb sized 
ones as they give out many times as much light as any portable strobe, but they 
are hell for expensive.

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  Even 35 years ago flash bulbs were relatively 
> expensive.  I figured out that an electronic flash at $45.00 would save 
> me a ton of money in the long run so I bought one.

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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[Scott Loveless]

Thanks, Pete.  Based on what I've read the SP1000 and SP500 really 
aren't all that different functionally.  I did mis-read the flash sync 
chart for the SP500.  Both the 500 and 1000 manuals suggest maximum X 
sync at 1/8 for M class bulbs and 1/15 for F class.  It's interesting 
that you were able to get good exposures at 1/30.

P. J. Alling wrote:
> My experience with flashbulbs and SLRs was with the SP1000.  I used it 
> at x  1/30sec.  I did a bit of experimenting using FP sync., (m class 
> bulbs not FP), but that turned out badly.  Prior to that I used flash 
> bulbs with leaf shutter folders and box type cameras, a more or less 
> flash and hope system.  Even 35 years ago flash bulbs were relatively 
> expensive.  I figured out that an electronic flash at $45.00 would save 
> me a ton of money in the long run so I bought one.
>
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>   
>> Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with 
>> M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different 
>> than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my 
>> very near future. 
>>
>> And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some 
>> experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the 
>> situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm 
>> suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX 
>> and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual 
>> recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of 
>> photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too 
>> much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)
>>
>> Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing 
>> that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.
>>
>> Thanks a bunch, folks!
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>
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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[Adam Maas]

Actually it makes perfect sense. THe Federal Civil Service need to be able to 
serve to clients in both official languages. Therefore the govenment needs to 
hire less people if everybody speaks both languages. Ergo a preference for 
Bilinguals. And since French is the minority language, most francophones learn 
English anyways, while most Anglophones don't need to (except within Quebec). 
Canada does have a reasonably large population of non-fluent Bilinguals as well 
(Like myself, schooled in both languages but my French fluency has atrophied 
due to non-use).

-Adam

graywolf wrote:
> That sounds like a well know practice called, "shooting yourself in the 
> foot". If I had not read "The Human Zoo" I would think it very strange that 
> so many cultures seem to be insane these days. In the end I suppose we will 
> deal with over population by killing each other off in acts of mass 
> destruction. And no, all the words in the world will not change things 
> because we are hardwired that way. Pretending we aren't will not work either.
> 
>  
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> 
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> William Robb wrote:
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "frank theriault"
>>> Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians
>>>
>>>
>>>
 I don't know what part of "most of Canada" you've been in, but here in
 Toronto (Canada's largest city) there ain't speck of French to be
 found on road signs;  the same can be said of Southern Ontario, except
 perhaps around Ottawa and near the Quebec border.

>>> In Regina, the federal civil service seems to be run by forced expatriates 
>>> from Quebec who have a my shit don't stink attitude and a tendency to treat 
>>> the non French citizenry (that would be just about the entire population) 
>>> like second class citizens.
>>> This probably explains at least part of my attitude.
>>>
>>> William Robb 
>>>
>>>
>> The Federal Civil Service is predominantly francophone due to preferred 
>> hiring for Bilinguals, French Speakers are far more likely to be fully 
>> Bilingual than English Speakers (Both as a percentage of total population, 
>> and in gross numbers). Thus you have a lot of such forced expats stuck in 
>> various places across the country.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
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Re: PESO -- Balloon Field

[P. J. Alling]

Baned in the interests of public safety.

David J Brooks wrote:
> Cute.
>
> How are pin sales.:-)
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/8/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Something just for fun.
>>
>> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20balloonfield.html
>>
>> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 70-210mm f4.0~5.6
>>
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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[graywolf]

M sync bulbs will generally work on X at 1/30 second. But with focal plane 
shutters it depends on how fast the first curtain opens, so older cameras may 
be limited to 1/15 and newer ones may work to 1/60. The only way to know for 
sure with a particular camera is to experiment a bit. It should only take three 
shots to find out for sure because you are looking for curtain cutoff, part of 
the frame being unexposed. 

Of course my Anti-Digital Camera syncs M bulbs to 1/400 no problem , I 
have always wanted to try some #22 bulbs but $3-$5 for something that may or 
may not fire seems a bit much. However if anyone has some #2 or #22 flashbulbs 
laying around gathering dust I would gladly pay you shipping for them.

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Scott Loveless wrote:
> Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with 
> M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different 
> than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my 
> very near future. 
> 
> And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some 
> experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the 
> situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm 
> suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX 
> and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual 
> recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of 
> photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too 
> much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)
> 
> Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing 
> that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.
> 
> Thanks a bunch, folks!
> 

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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[graywolf]

That sounds like a well know practice called, "shooting yourself in the foot". 
If I had not read "The Human Zoo" I would think it very strange that so many 
cultures seem to be insane these days. In the end I suppose we will deal with 
over population by killing each other off in acts of mass destruction. And no, 
all the words in the world will not change things because we are hardwired that 
way. Pretending we aren't will not work either.

 
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Adam Maas wrote:
> William Robb wrote:
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "frank theriault"
>> Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians
>>
>>
>>
>>> I don't know what part of "most of Canada" you've been in, but here in
>>> Toronto (Canada's largest city) there ain't speck of French to be
>>> found on road signs;  the same can be said of Southern Ontario, except
>>> perhaps around Ottawa and near the Quebec border.
>>>
>> In Regina, the federal civil service seems to be run by forced expatriates 
>> from Quebec who have a my shit don't stink attitude and a tendency to treat 
>> the non French citizenry (that would be just about the entire population) 
>> like second class citizens.
>> This probably explains at least part of my attitude.
>>
>> William Robb 
>>
>>
> 
> The Federal Civil Service is predominantly francophone due to preferred 
> hiring for Bilinguals, French Speakers are far more likely to be fully 
> Bilingual than English Speakers (Both as a percentage of total population, 
> and in gross numbers). Thus you have a lot of such forced expats stuck in 
> various places across the country.
> 
> -Adam
> 
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YAOTVQ (Yet Another Off Topic Volvo Question)

[Bob Shell]

I hope no one minds me asking this here, but I got more help here  
last time than on the car lists.

Volvo 940 Turbo Wagon, 1991 model.

Right now we're having a spell of really HOT weather.  When the car  
sits all day in the sun it won't start.  I've narrowed the problem  
down to the fuel pump.  When really hot you turn the ignition key to  
the accessory position and the pump doesn't start.  Wait until the  
evening when it's a bit cooler and the pump runs and the car starts  
just fine.  Pump is getting electricity, so doesn't seem to be a  
problem of it not getting power.

 From what I see on line, it looks like this car suffers the dual  
pump affliction, one in the tank and one up top outside the tank.  I  
haven't dropped the tank yet.

Any ideas why such a weather related problem?

Bob

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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[graywolf]

That is Bloody Yank to you! Have some respect for your betters.

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Cotty wrote:
> On 8/8/07, Chris Stoddart, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> ex-colonials
> 
> You mean the bloody Yanks?
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Re: DA * 16-50/2.8

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

That's great news for owners of older Pentax DSLRs :-) Thanks!

Cheers,
Sylwek



On 2007-08-08, at 18:52, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> No, the focus ring does not turn while the camera AF's.  So you can
> hold on to the ring and press the focus button and then touch up
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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[graywolf]

Oh yes, another thing for us to feel guilty about. I choose to only feel guilty 
about my intentional actions. I have too many of them to worry about, so I do 
not have time to worry about all the guilt trips people try to put on me 
because they feel worthless. If we called them "Superior People of African 
Decent" they would change the meaning in their minds to something utterly 
derogatory and guilt trip us for using such a term. I doubt many people of 
French decent resent being called a "frog eater" which is what "Frog" is short 
for, "nigger" is a corruption of "negra" which is of course Latin for "black".

A lot of it is intent. You use a word with contempt dripping from your voice it 
is insulting. Such as the innocent word "bigot" (literally "by god") from the 
keyboard of a certain well known Torontian Liberal.

I have noticed that media, especially the liberal media, folks like to use 
uncommon words as if they had nasty connotations that they didn't have before 
the media adopted them. My favorite is "puerile" which actually means 
"childish". Of course if they said there should be a law against "childish 
interests" they would get laughed off the air. But since most of their 
listeners do not have that Latin word in their vocabulary they think it must 
mean something nasty which is exactly what the talking AH's want.

Words do not have emotional content in themselves, it has to be added somehow. 
Notice how insultingly "Torontian Liberal" came across in my second paragraph. 
 
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frank theriault wrote:
> On 8/8/07, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I have French friends who call themselves "froggies" when they call
>> me, and some German friends who laughingly call themselves "krauts".
>> I think it's OK when they do it, and when it's done with a smile.  I
>> don't use those appellations when talking to them, though.
>>
> 
> An oppressed group (or one that perceives itself as oppressed) will
> often "take ownership" of offensive or bigoted language.  It's a way
> of defusing it, or throwing back in the face of the oppressor.
> 
> Some African Americans may choose to call themselves or others
> "niggers", but I don't think that it's advisable for a white person
> such as myself to use such language (except towards someone that I'm
> extremely intimate with.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: DA * 16-50/2.8

[Bruce Dayton]

No, the focus ring does not turn while the camera AF's.  So you can
hold on to the ring and press the focus button and then touch up
afterwards.  It is a little more convenient in that sense.

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Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 9:43:27 AM, you wrote:

SP> On 2007-08-08, at 17:51, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> Hello Frits,
>>
>> Yes, it acts just like a regular DA lens on the *istD.  So you can AF
>> and touch up afterwards.
SP> But does focusing ring rotate with *istD just like it was with non-
SP> star DA zooms?

SP> Cheers,
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Re: DA * 16-50/2.8

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 2007-08-08, at 17:51, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> Hello Frits,
>
> Yes, it acts just like a regular DA lens on the *istD.  So you can AF
> and touch up afterwards.
But does focusing ring rotate with *istD just like it was with non- 
star DA zooms?

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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"
Subject: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)


> Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with
> M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different
> than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my
> very near future.
>
> And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some
> experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the
> situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm
> suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX
> and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual
> recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of
> photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too
> much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)
>
> Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing
> that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.
>
> Thanks a bunch, folks!

Bob Shell will know more about this (he has probably forgotten a thousand 
times what I know) but I'll try.
Unlike an electronic flash, a bulb flash is not instantaneous light. The 
bulb has a warm-up time of several milliseconds prior to it reaching full 
output. Some cameras have an X/M switch, X being for gas discharge flash 
units, M being for flash bulbs.
The M setting triggers the flash well in advance of the shutter being fully 
open to allow the bulb to peak before the shutter opens fully.
In the absence of a camera adjustment, the flash will be triggered when the 
leading curtain fully opens. If the shutter speed is set too fast, the 
trailing curtain will close before the bulb heats up fully, resulting in 
(partial frame) underexposure and poor colour balance.
Some bulbs heat up faster than others, and allow a faster shutter speed off 
the X setting.
This may not be accounted for in the camera owners manual, hence the 
difference in recommendations from the bulb manufacturer and camera 
documentation.
For myself, I would follow the bulb manufacturers recommendation regarding 
shutter speed, though you won't go wrong slowing things down a stop either, 
providing ambient light levels will allow it.

William Robb


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Re: New recycled PESO

[Bruce Dayton]

Not sure that I remember this one, but I like what you have presented
here.  Good work, as always!

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Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 5:28:27 AM, you wrote:

MR> I've shown this photo before (I think), but this is a new B&W 
MR> conversion and crop:

MR> http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm

MR> Taken with ist-D and a 200mm f/2.0 on my "primes only" bicycle tour of
MR> France a couple of years ago. This is a back street in the city of
MR> Tours. One of my few attempts at "street photography" ever :-)





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Re: PESO -- Balloon Field

[David J Brooks]

Cute.

How are pin sales.:-)

Dave

On 8/8/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something just for fun.
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20balloonfield.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 70-210mm f4.0~5.6
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Re: Recently Enabled

[David Savage]

On 8/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Envious. Can you try to  not become as disgusting, er enabled, as you know
> who?
>
> Sheesh.
>
> Marnie  ;-)

I make no promises

:-)

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Re: Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[P. J. Alling]

My experience with flashbulbs and SLRs was with the SP1000.  I used it 
at x  1/30sec.  I did a bit of experimenting using FP sync., (m class 
bulbs not FP), but that turned out badly.  Prior to that I used flash 
bulbs with leaf shutter folders and box type cameras, a more or less 
flash and hope system.  Even 35 years ago flash bulbs were relatively 
expensive.  I figured out that an electronic flash at $45.00 would save 
me a ton of money in the long run so I bought one.

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with 
> M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different 
> than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my 
> very near future. 
>
> And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some 
> experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the 
> situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm 
> suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX 
> and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual 
> recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of 
> photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too 
> much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)
>
> Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing 
> that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.
>
> Thanks a bunch, folks!
>
>   


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RE: Optio W10/20/30 users - opinions?

[Henk Terhell]

Thibouille

The W30 does have digital SR.

Henk

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> I still think the only thing missing in the WP-serie is SR.
> A pity.
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Re: New recycled PESO

[David J Brooks]

On 8/8/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
>
> >I like this. The long FL worked well.
>
> Really shows off the crazy lines of those buildings in the background,
> eh? I don't think I can find a pair of parallel lines anywhere in that
> shot!

I could, IF i was still surveying, but alas, i have already forgotten how..:-)

Dave
>
> >> http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm
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Re: Recently Enabled

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 8/8/2007 5:32:01 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just thought I'd share a pic of my  2 latest  acquisitions:



Now  all I need is some clear weather to give them a good  workout.

Cheers,

Dave

=
Envious. Can you try to  not become as disgusting, er enabled, as you know  
who?

Sheesh.

Marnie  ;-)

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Re: PESO: Skeletons

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 8/8/2007 2:02:05 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all

Going though some  old images I came across this one shot originally with a 
Super A on  Ektachrome.  I had it scanned a couple of years ago to Kodak Photo 
CD but  the scan was pretty ordinary - decided to see whether a B&W conversion 
would  be  better.

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/68557/Skeletons.html


Comments,  plaudits, brickbats accepted with good grace  (mostly)


Cheers

Brian

==
Nice, nice.  I like the forms and reflections. I'd lighten the LL corner 
though, bit dark.  Anyway, yes, that was one worth retrieving.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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PESO -- Balloon Field

[P. J. Alling]

Something just for fun.

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20balloonfield.html

Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 70-210mm f4.0~5.6

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Re: OT - Lens choice help required

[David J Brooks]

I thought it was Spill beer on the Mac's, disease.

:-)

Dave

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Re: A flag question for Canadians

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Eh? Wot's 'at ya say?
Corr, just tekkin' a little nappy here.

G

On Aug 8, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Tom Cakalic wrote:

> Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?
> This verbal class distinction by now should be antique.
> If you spoke as she does, sir, Instead of the way you do,
> Why, you might be selling flowers, too.
> An Englishman's way of speaking absolutely classifies him,
> The moment he talks he makes some other
> Englishman despise him.
> One common language I'm afraid we'll never get.
> Oh, why can't the English learn to set
> A good example to people whose
> English is painful to your ears?
> The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
>
> There even are places where English completely
> disappears. In America, they haven't used it for years!
>
> Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?
> Norwegians learn Norwegian; the Greeks have taught their
> Greek.
>
> In France every Frenchman knows
> his language fro "A" to "Zed"
> The French never care what they do, actually,
> as long as they pronounce it properly.
>
> Arabians learn Arabian with the speed of summer lightning.
> And Hebrews learn it backwards,
> which is absolutely frightening.
> But use proper English you're regarded as a freak.
> Why can't the English,
> Why can't the English learn to speak?
>
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Re: PESO - Lighthouse

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 8/6/2007 3:28:57 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice composition - the position  of the gull is just about right too.

It's interesting how place names  like "Half Moon Bay" keep reappearing 
elsewhere for semi-circular shaped  coastlines.  I know of at least two in 
Australia and I'm sure there are  more.



Cheers

Brian


Yes, it is.  Thanks, Brian.

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Flash bulbs (or, blast from the past)

[Scott Loveless]

Lately, I've had an opportunity to look at some Kodachrome exposed with 
M2B blue flash bulbs.  The character of the light is certainly different 
than that of electronic flash.  A couple dozen of these could be in my 
very near future. 

And now, of course, my dilemma.  I'm hoping that a few of you have some 
experience with flash bulbs and can shed some, er, light on the 
situation.  The chart here http://www.flashbulbs.com/bluebulb.htm 
suggests that these bulbs will X sync to 1/30.  The manuals for the MX 
and SP500 recommend 1/15 at the fastest, while the K1000 manual 
recommends 1/30.  This seems a bit odd to me.  As this sort of 
photography is relatively expensive, I'd rather not experiment too 
much.  (Kodachrome + processing + bulbs at $1per that may not fire)

Does anyone recall how they may have used these bulbs?  I'm guessing 
that I'd be safe at 1/15, but if I can squeeze out 1/30 I'd be happy.

Thanks a bunch, folks!

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