Re: Pentax and Wally World Team Up.

2007-08-23 Thread Toine
Most likely a small mirror at 45 deg. The lens is behind the mirror
and zooming is invisible inside the camerabody. Minolta was first.


On 8/24/07, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 05:55:03PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082314pentaxz10s10.asp
>
> Wow - a "refractive lens system".  What an innovation.
>
> (I wonder what it really means?)
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Brian Walters
What is it about the MX and burials?  Some time ago I seem to recall Cotty 
saying much the same thing.

(I can understand being buried with a silver one but a black one is going to be 
hard to find)


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Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glen Tortorella"
> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
> 
> 
> > Hi William,
> >
> > In what condition is the MX body?  If it is particularly nice, I
> may
> > be interested.  Actually, I should ask the same about the LX,
> too.
> >
> 
> I was just teasing. I intend to be buried with them.
> But since you asked, my MX is a fairly cherry black one, and I have
> three 
> LX, all gently used, and fully serviced within the past 5 years,
> with very 
> little use since.

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis" 
Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX



> 
> I still own one, although at present it's on loan to Shel.

Oh, you poor sod.

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Glen Tortorella"
Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX


> Hi William,
>
> In what condition is the MX body?  If it is particularly nice, I may
> be interested.  Actually, I should ask the same about the LX, too.
>

I was just teasing. I intend to be buried with them.
But since you asked, my MX is a fairly cherry black one, and I have three 
LX, all gently used, and fully serviced within the past 5 years, with very 
little use since.

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Re: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread David Savage
My original smart @rsed message didn't come out sounding the way I wanted 
it to.

I'm feeling too lazy to correct it.

Cheers,

Dave

At 11:38 AM 24/08/2007, P. J. Alling wrote:
>That's funny, that model isn't on my periodic table of Canon DSLRs
>either as predicted or possible, which has been quite good a predicting
>the future direction of canon since I found it.
>
>David Savage wrote:
> > Well it's better than the Canon 6D he "reviewed" last week based on a
> > online forum rumor.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > At 03:11 AM 24/08/2007, P. J. Alling wrote:
> >
> >> Let me guess, it's better than Canon.


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Re: FS Friday: 3 old cameras

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thank you for the prompt reply.  If the viewfinder is now clear, I  
may be interested.  How does the camera look overall...any notable  
dings or scratches?

Thanks,
Glen

On Aug 24, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

> Good questions. The dust appears to have been mostly on the outside -
> I think I got most of it with a swab. The blue area must be a
> reflection of the flash off the edge of the viewfinder glass - I could
> see something bluish but there is definitely not a blue spot on the
> camera.
>
> Amita
>
> On 8/24/07, Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Interesting cameras...Is the dust I see on the Super Program's
>> viewfinder on the inside or outside?  Also, what would that small
>> blue area be (just below the viewfinder)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Glen
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Amita Guha wrote:
>>
>>> Here are my ebay auctions for the week.
>>>
>>> K1000 + lens:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2dmqda
>>>
>>> KM w/bad meter + lens:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2e4crr
>>>
>>> Super Program w/3 lenses & manual:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zz97w
>>>
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Re: FS Friday: 3 old cameras

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
Good questions. The dust appears to have been mostly on the outside -
I think I got most of it with a swab. The blue area must be a
reflection of the flash off the edge of the viewfinder glass - I could
see something bluish but there is definitely not a blue spot on the
camera.

Amita

On 8/24/07, Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting cameras...Is the dust I see on the Super Program's
> viewfinder on the inside or outside?  Also, what would that small
> blue area be (just below the viewfinder)?
>
> Thanks,
> Glen
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Amita Guha wrote:
>
> > Here are my ebay auctions for the week.
> >
> > K1000 + lens:
> > http://tinyurl.com/2dmqda
> >
> > KM w/bad meter + lens:
> > http://tinyurl.com/2e4crr
> >
> > Super Program w/3 lenses & manual:
> > http://tinyurl.com/2zz97w
> >
> > Amita
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
Thanks, Godfrey. :)

On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's nothing to burn out on the shutter, Amita. You might run the
> battery dry and then the camera will shut down. The shutter is simply
> a mechanical device with a couple of springs and magnets. The second
> curtain stays open as long as its retaining mechanism does not release.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Amita Guha wrote:
>
> > Thanks! How long can you keep the shutter open on these cameras? Don't
> > the electronic shutters burn out eventually if you keep them open for
> > too long?
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Re: OT: Cleaning Mirror and viewscreen

2007-08-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/08/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This'll make some purists puke here, but I got fed up with dust spots on
> my Darkside 1D so I just wiped the sensor a few times with clean cotton
> buds and all my stubborn dust blotches disappeared in one go. This the
> first time in nearly three years. I wouldn't hesitate in doing it again.
>
> But then again, I'm like that.

I'd do the same, but I also use a 100PSI filtered air blast to clear
the dust from my mirror box/sensor :-)

Front silvered mirrors however I would be very careful with.

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
Hi William,

In what condition is the MX body?  If it is particularly nice, I may  
be interested.  Actually, I should ask the same about the LX, too.

Thanks,
Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 6:43 PM, William Robb wrote:

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Glen Tortorella"
> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
>
>
>> I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
>> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I prefer
>> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
>> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
>>
>
> Too bad.
> I've got a few spare film bodies around, LXs, MXs, ME-Supers, that  
> sort of
> thing
> Dave might still have a Super Program though.
>
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Re: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
That's funny, that model isn't on my periodic table of Canon DSLRs 
either as predicted or possible, which has been quite good a predicting 
the future direction of canon since I found it.

David Savage wrote:
> Well it's better than the Canon 6D he "reviewed" last week based on a 
> online forum rumor.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
> At 03:11 AM 24/08/2007, P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Let me guess, it's better than Canon.
>>
>> Digital Image Studio wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23/08/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Kenny already has his initial review up.

 
>>> Genuine ROTLFMAO, thanks for that!
>>>   
>
>
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Re: OT: Cleaning Mirror and viewscreen

2007-08-23 Thread David Savage
At 11:40 AM 24/08/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> >>
> >> But then again, I'm like that.
>
>Bravo! :-) Simple brute force wins. ;-)


It's not polite to imply that Cotty a simple brute.

It may be true, but it's still not polite.

==>  <==

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Re: OT: Cleaning Mirror and viewscreen

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

>> This'll make some purists puke here, but I got fed up with dust  
>> spots on
>> my Darkside 1D so I just wiped the sensor a few times with clean  
>> cotton
>> buds and all my stubborn dust blotches disappeared in one go. This  
>> the
>> first time in nearly three years. I wouldn't hesitate in doing it  
>> again.
>>
>> But then again, I'm like that.

Bravo! :-) Simple brute force wins. ;-)

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Re: FS Friday: 3 old cameras

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
Interesting cameras...Is the dust I see on the Super Program's  
viewfinder on the inside or outside?  Also, what would that small  
blue area be (just below the viewfinder)?

Thanks,
Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Amita Guha wrote:

> Here are my ebay auctions for the week.
>
> K1000 + lens:
> http://tinyurl.com/2dmqda
>
> KM w/bad meter + lens:
> http://tinyurl.com/2e4crr
>
> Super Program w/3 lenses & manual:
> http://tinyurl.com/2zz97w
>
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
PC XP home CS2.

Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
Adjust photo in PSCS2

Print from Preview
Colour Adobe rgb
Let PS determine colours
Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

Print box is set up for paper etc.
Advanced and turn of colour management

Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
the monitor.

I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
wanted a 4x6 print.

When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went
to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
everything

Dave

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> On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
>
> Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
> first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.
> You should always check them before making a print.
>
> Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
> > One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
> > in Rgb.
> >
> > For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
> > print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
> > I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
> > upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
> > there before.
> >
> > I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
> >
> > Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
> > unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
> > other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
> > about 3'.
> >
> > Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
> > problems.??
> >
> > I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
> > well.
> >
> > This is frustrating.
>
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Re: FS Friday: 3 old cameras

2007-08-23 Thread Scott Loveless
Amita Guha wrote:
> Here are my ebay auctions for the week.
>
> K1000 + lens:
>   
Would you kindly refrain from referring to the K1000 as an "old" 
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Re: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/08/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well it's better than the Canon 6D he "reviewed" last week based on a
> online forum rumor.

Poor sod, he seems to be getting some slaps from the Nikon forumites
and he's Nikons biggest flag waver, it's just not fair. I must confess
after his name was uttered I did visit his site, it's a great way to
help you feel good about yourself. Have you checked the Ryan links
lately? Poor little dude, you can't help but feel sorry for him.

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm pretty sure you'll voice some disappointment with almost anything  
that is announced by any manufacturer. And yet you seem to feel that  
a Canon DRebel viewfinder is acceptable for most people's use from  
other comments. Very curious - multiple standards disorder? ]'-)

G

On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Tom C wrote:

> Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred  
> 100 or 50.


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FS Friday: 3 old cameras

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
Here are my ebay auctions for the week.

K1000 + lens:
http://tinyurl.com/2dmqda

KM w/bad meter + lens:
http://tinyurl.com/2e4crr

Super Program w/3 lenses & manual:
http://tinyurl.com/2zz97w

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Re: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread David Savage
Well it's better than the Canon 6D he "reviewed" last week based on a 
online forum rumor.

Cheers,

Dave


At 03:11 AM 24/08/2007, P. J. Alling wrote:
>Let me guess, it's better than Canon.
>
>Digital Image Studio wrote:
> > On 23/08/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Kenny already has his initial review up.
> >>
> >
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/08/07, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Godfrey, nice to meet you...
> Brad

:-)

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Norm Baugher
Hi Godfrey, nice to meet you...
Brad

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>   
>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote
 I just play a grouchy old fart for the PDML. In person, I'm just
 sweetness and light...  ]'-)
 
>>> Let me introduce myself: My name is Brad Dobo...
>>> ;-)
>>>   
>> Who is/was Brad Dobo? I don't understand the reference.
>> 
>
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Brian Walters
Ah, yes.  We need somone like that...  

:-)>

Quoting Rebekah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'll let you know when I do :o)  By the way, if everyone is
> grouchy
> old farts, I'm the young amateur comic relief around here.
> 

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Brian Walters
Graciously accepted
:-)>


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Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
> 
> 
> > ...I've never handled an LX.
> 
> You have my pity.
> 
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Re: Pentax and Wally World Team Up.

2007-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
It means it bends light by passing it through a curved surface clear 
material to bring it to a point of focus. Hum, sounds like any kind of 
non-reflective lens to me...

John Francis wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 05:55:03PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
>   
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082314pentaxz10s10.asp
>> 
>
> Wow - a "refractive lens system".  What an innovation.
>
> (I wonder what it really means?)
>
>
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Re: Pentax and Wally World Team Up.

2007-08-23 Thread Rebekah
ahhh point and shootit burns..



On 8/23/07, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 05:55:03PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082314pentaxz10s10.asp
>
> Wow - a "refractive lens system".  What an innovation.
>
> (I wonder what it really means?)
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
I'm too purist and too lazy for that. ;-) I had Cokin filters once and I'm 
too careless and they scratch too easy.

I'm not against using filters.  It's just that on dark, overcast days, in 
the shade of trees, in some place like Mt. Rainier National Park, I rarely 
had to use anything than a polarizer when shooting Velvia (Jack).  With a 
camera having a minum ISO of 200, I't pretty much a given that filters will 
be required.

Tom C.

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>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:06:32 -0400
>
>From:
>"Tom C"
> > It's just not *wanting* to use the filters, or use them as little as
> > possible.  You start stacking filters and using small apertures and
> > the view through the viewfinder is too dark to use.
>Use the square ones. Compose the shot, lock it down and then slip the ND
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Re: Pentax and Wally World Team Up.

2007-08-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 05:55:03PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082314pentaxz10s10.asp

Wow - a "refractive lens system".  What an innovation.

(I wonder what it really means?)


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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread John Sessoms
From:
"Tom C"
> It's just not *wanting* to use the filters, or use them as little as 
> possible.  You start stacking filters and using small apertures and 
> the view through the viewfinder is too dark to use.
Use the square ones. Compose the shot, lock it down and then slip the ND 
filters into the holder.


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Pentax and Wally World Team Up.

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082314pentaxz10s10.asp

Every Day Low Prices, guaranteed satisfaction, friendly service, convenient 
hours.

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Re: GESO: In the mountains with the DA*16-50/2.8

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Angel Ramos wrote:

>Nice pictures all Mark, you got the lens form a local shop or mail 
>order?  

B&H photo. I ordered it as soon as it appeared on their web site.

>And I agree with the B&W convertion comment.  

Here's my first try:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2/7d702907a.jpg

>The mouse is a character! 

I couldn't believe how close the little guy let me get!


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Re: OT: Cleaning Mirror and viewscreen

2007-08-23 Thread Rebekah
This'll make some purists puke here, but I got fed up with dust spots on
> my Darkside 1D so I just wiped the sensor a few times with clean cotton
> buds and all my stubborn dust blotches disappeared in one go. This the
> first time in nearly three years. I wouldn't hesitate in doing it again.
>
> But then again, I'm like that.
>

> Cheers,
>  Cotty
>

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> >
> >John G.
>
> This'll make some purists puke here, but I got fed up with dust spots on
> my Darkside 1D so I just wiped the sensor a few times with clean cotton
> buds and all my stubborn dust blotches disappeared in one go. This the
> first time in nearly three years. I wouldn't hesitate in doing it again.
>
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
We don't discriminate much.

Glen Tortorella wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Thank you for the advice.  I will certainly keep the Spotmatic F in  
> mind.  It sounds like you like your Pentax cameras.  I have been on  
> the list only about a day, but I have been somewhat surprised by the  
> amount of talk about Canons and Nikons.
>
> Glen
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>   
>> The Super A is great - definitely my favourite among the MF Pentax,  
>> although I've never handled an LX.
>>
>> I don't have any experience with the SP 500 or SP1000 but I  
>> wouldn't rule out the Spotmatic F.  It was the last of the screw  
>> mount  series and the most capable in that it offered open aperture  
>> metering with Super Multi Coated Takumars and SMC Takumars.  With  
>> other Takumars and other branded screw mount lenses you get the  
>> usual stop down metering.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney, Australia
>> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> 
>>> I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
>>> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I
>>> prefer
>>> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
>>> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 - Original Message -
 From: "Glen Tortorella"
 Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX


 
> Thank you for the welcome.
>
> That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two
>   
>>> in
>>>   
> mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I
>   
>>> would
>>>   
> like to have.
>   
 Which would they be?

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>>> I just play a grouchy old fart for the PDML. In person, I'm just
>>> sweetness and light...  ]'-)
>>
>> Let me introduce myself: My name is Brad Dobo...
>> ;-)
>
>Who is/was Brad Dobo? I don't understand the reference.

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
> > Brian,
> >
> > Thank you for the advice.  I will certainly keep the Spotmatic F in
> > mind.  It sounds like you like your Pentax cameras.  I have been on
> > the list only about a day, but I have been somewhat surprised by the
> > amount of talk about Canons and Nikons.
>
>I think the correct descriptive is penis envy
>
>William Robb
>

No it's not that.  Being 90 lb. weaklings, it's the pecs and biceps.

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Re: Optio 330 - Is my Optio's sensor toast?

2007-08-23 Thread Stan Halpin
Short answer, Yes.

My 330R, which my wife inherited, never showed this problem before it  
was stolen. I bought a used 330 as a replacement. After a few months  
it started producing images just like the ones you are showing. I  
sent it for Pentax repair, it worked for awhile and then started the  
same thing again. I bought a used 550 from eBay as a replacement;  
after a few months it started producing images just like the ones you  
are showing. I sent it for Pentax repair, it worked for awhile and  
then started the same thing again plus other problems. I suggested a  
750 as a replacement since no 330's or 550's were out there, she  
opted for a Leica DLux-3 instead. Which would be a fine camera if it  
only had a viewfinder...

stan

On Aug 23, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Christian wrote:

> My Optio 330 has been on permanent loan to my dad for a few years.  I
> use it now and then when I want to shoot underwater pictures since I
> have the UW case for it.  A few months ago, my dad said that some  
> of the
> images looked "weird" and asked if I knew why.  Looking at the images,
> it may be that the sensor is shot, but some (75% or so) images come  
> out
> ok.  Granted, the camera is over 5 years old so maybe it's reached its
> useful life.  Anybody have any ideas?  (I've used different memory  
> cards
> and batteries with the same results). Samples below:
>
> good:
> http://tinyurl.com/ytboyk
>
> bad:
> http://tinyurl.com/yra8cs
>
> good:
> http://tinyurl.com/23catu
>
> bad:
> http://tinyurl.com/2e26o6
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
I have a super program thats gathering dust.:-)

I also drag my SP500 out now and again, as well as the 6x7, mostly in
North Carolina or Saskatchewan. Those are the only two places big
enough for it.:-)

Dave

Dave

BTW welcome

On 8/23/07, Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I prefer
> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
>
> Glen
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Glen Tortorella"
> > Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
> >
> >
> >> Thank you for the welcome.
> >>
> >> That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two in
> >> mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I would
> >> like to have.
> >
> > Which would they be?
> >
> > William Robb
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread John Francis

I'd agree with those recommendations.

I started out with a Spotmatic II, but would have much preferred
a Spotmatic F; open-aperture metering is a very nice feature.

I never had any of the earlier K mounts; I started with an MX
(which I still have).  In the intervening years I've owned an ME
(too automatic), an ME Super, a Super Program, a PZ-1p and an MZ-S.
About the only one of those that I wouldn't recommend for all-around
photography is the ME - the rest are all classics in their own way:

  MXSmall, simple, full manual camera
(capable of 5fps with the optional motor drive!)

  ME Super  Last of the cameras that work without batteries

  Super Program The high point of the manual focus bodies

  PZ-1p 4.3fps, 1/8000 shutter speed; excellent for flash.
Introduced the two-wheel hyper program interface
that was also used in the *ist-D and K10D.

  MZ-S  The last, and best, of the MZ bodies.


On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 06:39:28PM -0400, Glen Tortorella wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> Thank you for the advice.  I will certainly keep the Spotmatic F in  
> mind.  It sounds like you like your Pentax cameras.  I have been on  
> the list only about a day, but I have been somewhat surprised by the  
> amount of talk about Canons and Nikons.
> 
> Glen
> 
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> > The Super A is great - definitely my favourite among the MF Pentax,  
> > although I've never handled an LX.
> >
> > I don't have any experience with the SP 500 or SP1000 but I  
> > wouldn't rule out the Spotmatic F.  It was the last of the screw  
> > mount  series and the most capable in that it offered open aperture  
> > metering with Super Multi Coated Takumars and SMC Takumars.  With  
> > other Takumars and other branded screw mount lenses you get the  
> > usual stop down metering.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney, Australia
> > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
> >> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I
> >> prefer
> >> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
> >> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
> >>
> >> Glen
> >>
> >> On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Glen Tortorella"
> >>> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
> >>>
> >>>
>  Thank you for the welcome.
> 
>  That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two
> >> in
>  mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I
> >> would
>  like to have.
> >>>
> >>> Which would they be?
> >>>
> >>> William Robb
> >>>
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
I tyhink, maybe that file he sent me screwed something up.

I rebooted and uncliked the black point box and reprinted on of the horse shots.

Looks a lot better.

Something with NO coulr management in the return file might have set
up flags in the epson.

I 'm just quess on that though

Sorry to bother.

Dave

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> Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for
> a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments.
>
> I also went and printed several other horse photos from different
> days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice
> and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be.
>
> Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again.
>
> Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i
> have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews
> etc.
>
> I'll try and re calibrate
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the
> > photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The
> > customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,
> > which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for
> > printing..
> >
> > If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you
> > ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce
> > exactly what you've done before.
> >
> > I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart
> > handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question
> > against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change
> > monitor/printer configurations.
> >
> > G
> >
> >
> > On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> >
> > > And thats when this started, from the customer file
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On 8/23/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> PC XP home CS2.
> > >>
> > >> Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
> > >> Adjust photo in PSCS2
> > >>
> > >> Print from Preview
> > >> Colour Adobe rgb
> > >> Let PS determine colours
> > >> Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
> > >>
> > >> Print box is set up for paper etc.
> > >> Advanced and turn off colour management
> > >>
> > >> Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
> > >> the monitor.
> > >>
> > >> I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
> > >> file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
> > >> wanted a 4x6 print.
> > >>
> > >> When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i
> > >> went
> > >> to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
> > >> everything
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
> > >>>
> > >>> Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
> > >>> first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With
> > >>> Preview.
> > >>> You should always check them before making a print.
> > >>>
> > >>> Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
> > >>>
> > >>> Godfrey
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Hi all.
> > 
> >  Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out
> >  dark.
> >  One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm
> >  printing
> >  in Rgb.
> > 
> >  For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my
> >  settings in
> >  print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
> >  I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
> >  upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was
> >  never
> >  there before.
> > 
> >  I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
> > 
> >  Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
> >  unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.
> >  and the
> >  other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
> >  about 3'.
> > 
> >  Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
> >  problems.??
> > 
> >  I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
> >  well.
> > 
> >  This is frustrating.
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 04:43:03PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glen Tortorella"
> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
> 
> 
> >I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
> > screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I prefer
> > older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
> > somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
> >
> 
> Too bad.
> I've got a few spare film bodies around, LXs, MXs, ME-Supers, that sort of 
> thing
> Dave might still have a Super Program though.
> 
> William Robb 

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 
Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX


> ...I've never handled an LX.

You have my pity.

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Glen Tortorella"
Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX


>I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I prefer
> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
>

Too bad.
I've got a few spare film bodies around, LXs, MXs, ME-Supers, that sort of 
thing
Dave might still have a Super Program though.

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Re: Some quick monitor info

2007-08-23 Thread Peter Lacus
Paul,

> It seems my CRT monitor is about to bite the dust - it's starting to 
> exhibit keystoning so I suspect the yoke is becoming a problem.  If I 
> were to consider an LCD, what important specs should I be looking for?

not all LCDs are made equal, even when all of them say "Active matrix 
TFT". Currently (S-)IPS panels are probably the best for colour 
corrections/photo editing, followed by PVA and MVA. Most of the common 
LCDs are made using basic TN technology which is quite inferior to the 
above mentioned due to significant colour shifts when viewed from an 
angle among other things (fine for the office stuff though).

If tech specs mention viewing angles 178/178, it's most probably PVA/MVA 
based display, 170/170 is characteristic of IPS. Latest TN panels offer 
160/160 but I'd say it's more like 150/130 as the visible difference is 
considerably higher.

Of course there are some other important aspects like quality and 
uniformity of the backlighting or internal gamma/LUT adjustements 
capabilities but the quality of the screen is primarily determined by 
used panel technology.

Cheers,

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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
Brian,

Thank you for the advice.  I will certainly keep the Spotmatic F in  
mind.  It sounds like you like your Pentax cameras.  I have been on  
the list only about a day, but I have been somewhat surprised by the  
amount of talk about Canons and Nikons.

Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> The Super A is great - definitely my favourite among the MF Pentax,  
> although I've never handled an LX.
>
> I don't have any experience with the SP 500 or SP1000 but I  
> wouldn't rule out the Spotmatic F.  It was the last of the screw  
> mount  series and the most capable in that it offered open aperture  
> metering with Super Multi Coated Takumars and SMC Takumars.  With  
> other Takumars and other branded screw mount lenses you get the  
> usual stop down metering.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a
>> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I
>> prefer
>> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are
>> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Glen Tortorella"
>>> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
>>>
>>>
 Thank you for the welcome.

 That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two
>> in
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>> would
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Brian Walters
The Super A is great - definitely my favourite among the MF Pentax, although 
I've never handled an LX.

I don't have any experience with the SP 500 or SP1000 but I wouldn't rule out 
the Spotmatic F.  It was the last of the screw mount  series and the most 
capable in that it offered open aperture metering with Super Multi Coated 
Takumars and SMC Takumars.  With other Takumars and other branded screw mount 
lenses you get the usual stop down metering.



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> I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a  
> screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I
> prefer  
> older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are  
> somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).
> 
> Glen
> 
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:
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> > - Original Message -
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> > Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
> >
> >
> >> Thank you for the welcome.
> >>
> >> That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two
> in
> >> mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I
> would
> >> like to have.
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> > Which would they be?
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
I would like a Pentax A-Series (Super-A/Super Program) and a  
screwmount, perhaps an SP500 or SP1000.  As you may deduce, I prefer  
older, manual-focus cameras.  In my view, today's cameras are  
somewhat bland (and rather plasticky).

Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:

>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX
>
>
>> Thank you for the welcome.
>>
>> That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two in
>> mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I would
>> like to have.
>
> Which would they be?
>
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RE: Conceptual photography (was - Corner Kick)

2007-08-23 Thread Bob W
> On 8/22/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It seems that there wasn't even truth in advertising, 
> Manzoni's product
> > wasn't even his own s...
> >
> > 
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/06/shit_manzonis_work_doe
> snt_do_w.html
> >
> 
> He produced bad art. His plaster work was shit.
> 
> William Robb

At least he had a 'can do' attitude to his work.

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Rebekah
Scott-

There's no need to scan Kodachrome.  Just kidnap random relatives and
strap them into their viewing chairs and start up the projector.

rg2

Rebekah wrote:
> I'm grouchy, and stubbornly opinionated, but still young.
>
> And of course, long live film, especially Kodachrome.
>
> rg2
>
>

When/if you get a scanner and figure out how to scan Kodachrome, would
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Re: need 1.5V button cells? Nice hack :)

2007-08-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/08/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then you got cheated by the seller. Rechargeable D cells are now up to  
> 5000mah to 15000mah (why are they still using milli-amp-hours when such 
> capacities are better expressed in amp-hours?), no way you will get that out 
> of a AA cell. You can by those collars to use AA or AAA cells in place of C 
> or D cells however.

Or 40A continuous discharge per cell!

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread John Francis

That's somewhat connected to the fact that it has large sensor
sites - they collect more photons per unit time.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:39:04AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
> Was, also, my first reaction.
> I'm a slow person.
> 
> Jack
> --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred
> > 100 or 
> > 50.
> > 
> > Tom C.
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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> > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:03:09 -0400
> > >
> > >On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like a monster, probably a great camera. Gonna buy one?
> > >
> > >Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you have a
> > >level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is 5
> > >grand.
> > >
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
Subject: Re: FIND



> Who is/was Brad Dobo? I don't understand the reference.
> 

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freak.

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There's nothing to burn out on the shutter, Amita. You might run the  
battery dry and then the camera will shut down. The shutter is simply  
a mechanical device with a couple of springs and magnets. The second  
curtain stays open as long as its retaining mechanism does not release.

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Amita Guha wrote:

> Thanks! How long can you keep the shutter open on these cameras? Don't
> the electronic shutters burn out eventually if you keep them open for
> too long?


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Re: GESO: In the mountains with the DA*16-50/2.8

2007-08-23 Thread Angel Ramos
Nice pictures all Mark, you got the lens form a local shop or mail 
order?  And I agree with the B&W convertion comment.  The mouse is a 
character! 

I have my hands burning to have the lens, but its taking time from 
Adorama,  I saw an authorization request in my card but now is gone, 
hmm.  I will call them tomorrow.
Angel Ramos
Still waiting for my 16-50 DA*, oh, well!


Mark Roberts wrote:
> >From the weekend's hikes on Grandfather Mountain. Mostly in horrible 
> mid-day light but they'll still give you some idea of what the place 
> looks like :)  Quite a few also show off the minimum focusing distance 
> of the DA*16-50/2.8
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2/
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Re: Conceptual photography (was - Corner Kick)

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb
On 8/22/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems that there wasn't even truth in advertising, Manzoni's product
> wasn't even his own s...
>
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/06/shit_manzonis_work_doesnt_do_w.html
>

He produced bad art. His plaster work was shit.

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 23, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

>> I'm grouchy, and stubbornly opinionated, but still young.
>> And of course, long live film, especially Kodachrome.
>
> When/if you get a scanner and figure out how to scan Kodachrome, would
> please, please let me know?  Thanks.

What's your problem with scanning Kodachrome, Scott?

- Turn on Nikon LS-40
- Turn off IR scratch and dust removal
- Set up the rest of the parameters
- Scan

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW2/02.htm

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Mark Roberts wrote:
> Tom C wrote:
>
>   
>> Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred 100 
>> 
> or 
>   
>> 50.
>> 
>
> >From looking at the specs, I'd say it's probably more of a 
> sports/action camera - a competitor for the Canon 1D rather than 1Ds. 
> And putting "only" 12 megapixels in full-frame sensor should 
> theoretically yield very low noise at ISO 200.
But doesn't lower noise mean a higher ISO? Or have I missed something?

(I'm of course referring to the actual ISO rating of the sensor itself, 
not the "ISO" setting.)
>  At least, I'm sure this 
> is how Nikon is hoping things work out. They've really taken their time 
> with this one so there's a good chance they've got it right. (But Dave 
> Brooks will probably still not buy one!)
>
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

>> I just play a grouchy old fart for the PDML. In person, I'm just
>> sweetness and light...  ]'-)
>
> Let me introduce myself: My name is Brad Dobo...
> ;-)

Who is/was Brad Dobo? I don't understand the reference.

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Re: Bigma 50-500 vs 100-300 + 1.4x TC

2007-08-23 Thread Patrick Genovese
Hello Pentax

Please add this feature in the next firmware upgrade:

Add a feature to multiply the focal length reported by the lens by a
user entered factor e.g 1.4x 2x 1.7x and operate the SR system based
on that.. Easy software fix IMHO.

That would be nice.

Regards

Patrick


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> Patrick, the SR system won't be useles, it will be less effective asit
> willact as for a 300mm focal length and not a 420mm.
>
> Also, the SR system will NOT ask for focal length since it receives
> it. Also, you will NOT be able to enter it yourself (a bug IMO). It
> will work with 300mm as focal length. This is it.
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Glen Tortorella" 
Subject: Re: Just Bought a KX


> Thank you for the welcome.
> 
> That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two in  
> mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I would  
> like to have.

Which would they be?

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
Thanks for the help. :) I recently bought an old Nikon FA just in case
I ever get to do star trails again - sounds like film is still the way
to go for this sort of thing until I get rich or develop enough
patience to do the kind of thing you're talking about. :)

Amita

On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're talking relatively short exposure times. Frequently and often under 10
> minutes.  Depending on the subject and the setup, maybe not open for even a
> minute. The art is such that multiple exposures are digitally stacked and
> aligned so that luminance builds up, for example,  20 3-minutes exposures =
> a single 1 hour exposure.
>
> The other answer is, apparently not that often... :-)
>
> I don't have a dedicated DSLR for astrophotography, but if I do it will be a
> Canon (if I was buying one today).
>
> Tom C.
>
>
> >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:30:38 -0400
> >
> >Thanks! How long can you keep the shutter open on these cameras? Don't
> >the electronic shutters burn out eventually if you keep them open for
> >too long?
> >
> >Amita
> >
> >On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I should have said "the best for this application at a reasonable
> >price".
> > >
> > > Tom C.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > >To: pdml@pdml.net
> > > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:02:26 -0600
> > > >
> > > >The main thing is their extremely low noise characteristics.  Noise
> >will
> > > >build up in any sensor of course, but of all the DSLR's out there, the
> > > >Digital Rebels and the 5D are recognized as the best.  There's also
> > > >hardware
> > > >(filter mods) and control software that's been written for them
> > > >
> > > >Surpassing them are the dedicated, cooled, CCD cameras specifically
> > > >designed
> > > >for astrophotography, that both record the image and send guiding
> >signals
> > > >to
> > > >the scope's computer, off of one chip.
> > > >
> > > >Tom C.
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > > > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:52 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Viewfinder
> > > > > > aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the
> >most
> > > > >bang
> > > > > > for the buck of any DSLR.
> > > > >
> > > > >Tom, why are the Digital Rebels good for astrophotography? I thought
> > > > >mechanical shutters were still the best thing for astrophotography.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thx,
> > > > >Amita
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>I just play a grouchy old fart for the PDML. In person, I'm just  
>sweetness and light...  ]'-)

Let me introduce myself: My name is Brad Dobo...
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
We're talking relatively short exposure times. Frequently and often under 10 
minutes.  Depending on the subject and the setup, maybe not open for even a 
minute. The art is such that multiple exposures are digitally stacked and 
aligned so that luminance builds up, for example,  20 3-minutes exposures = 
a single 1 hour exposure.

The other answer is, apparently not that often... :-)

I don't have a dedicated DSLR for astrophotography, but if I do it will be a 
Canon (if I was buying one today).

Tom C.


>From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:30:38 -0400
>
>Thanks! How long can you keep the shutter open on these cameras? Don't
>the electronic shutters burn out eventually if you keep them open for
>too long?
>
>Amita
>
>On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I should have said "the best for this application at a reasonable 
>price".
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >To: pdml@pdml.net
> > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:02:26 -0600
> > >
> > >The main thing is their extremely low noise characteristics.  Noise 
>will
> > >build up in any sensor of course, but of all the DSLR's out there, the
> > >Digital Rebels and the 5D are recognized as the best.  There's also
> > >hardware
> > >(filter mods) and control software that's been written for them
> > >
> > >Surpassing them are the dedicated, cooled, CCD cameras specifically
> > >designed
> > >for astrophotography, that both record the image and send guiding 
>signals
> > >to
> > >the scope's computer, off of one chip.
> > >
> > >Tom C.
> > >
> > > >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:52 -0400
> > > >
> > > >On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Viewfinder
> > > > > aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the 
>most
> > > >bang
> > > > > for the buck of any DSLR.
> > > >
> > > >Tom, why are the Digital Rebels good for astrophotography? I thought
> > > >mechanical shutters were still the best thing for astrophotography.
> > > >
> > > >Thx,
> > > >Amita
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote:

>Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred 100 
or 
>50.

>From looking at the specs, I'd say it's probably more of a 
sports/action camera - a competitor for the Canon 1D rather than 1Ds. 
And putting "only" 12 megapixels in full-frame sensor should 
theoretically yield very low noise at ISO 200. At least, I'm sure this 
is how Nikon is hoping things work out. They've really taken their time 
with this one so there's a good chance they've got it right. (But Dave 
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thank you for the welcome.

That is okay, as I am sure that all of us have a camera or two in  
mind.  There are at least one or two other Pentax models that I would  
like to have.

Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am a new member--just joined today.
> Welcome.
>>  I currently own a Pentax ZX-
>> M.  I bought it three years ago, and, at the time, I was not sure if
>> I would like fully manual operation.  I like the ZX-M so much that it
>> inspired me to purchase the classic I bought today: a silver Pentax
>> KX.
> I think that's a really nice old camera, although I never use it. In
> fact, you now reminded me that I want one. Arghh...
>
> Someone already mentioned "enablement", didn't they?
>
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
Subject: Re: FIND


I thought the rest of us greeting you yesterday were supposed to be  
the grouchy old farts.

He's pushing his luck already, isn't he?

William Robb


On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Glen Tortorella wrote:

> I agree...digital cameras are still lacking.  After about three years
> of being "manual only," I have a similar feeling in regard to AF and
> AE cameras.  Long live the "film" camera.  Even in 2007, that still
> sounds very peculiar to me--a "film" camera...



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Re: PESO: My new Aunt

2007-08-23 Thread Scott Loveless
Sandra Hermann wrote:
> I shot a wedding in Tx a few weekends ago.  This is one of my favorite 
> pictures from the wedding.
> comments are more than welcome.
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/9988911
>   
I read your message, clicked the linky thing, and thought "WTF?  That's 
not in black and white."  Then I read your message again.  Now I get it.

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
Thanks! How long can you keep the shutter open on these cameras? Don't
the electronic shutters burn out eventually if you keep them open for
too long?

Amita

On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I should have said "the best for this application at a reasonable price".
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
> >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: pdml@pdml.net
> >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:02:26 -0600
> >
> >The main thing is their extremely low noise characteristics.  Noise will
> >build up in any sensor of course, but of all the DSLR's out there, the
> >Digital Rebels and the 5D are recognized as the best.  There's also
> >hardware
> >(filter mods) and control software that's been written for them
> >
> >Surpassing them are the dedicated, cooled, CCD cameras specifically
> >designed
> >for astrophotography, that both record the image and send guiding signals
> >to
> >the scope's computer, off of one chip.
> >
> >Tom C.
> >
> > >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:52 -0400
> > >
> > >On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Viewfinder
> > > > aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the most
> > >bang
> > > > for the buck of any DSLR.
> > >
> > >Tom, why are the Digital Rebels good for astrophotography? I thought
> > >mechanical shutters were still the best thing for astrophotography.
> > >
> > >Thx,
> > >Amita
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Toralf Lund wrote:
> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am a new member--just joined today. 
>> 
> Welcome.
>   
>>  I currently own a Pentax ZX- 
>> M.  I bought it three years ago, and, at the time, I was not sure if  
>> I would like fully manual operation.  I like the ZX-M so much that it  
>> inspired me to purchase the classic I bought today: a silver Pentax  
>> KX.
>> 
> I think that's a really nice old camera, although I never use it.
Right. Got to lern to rite.

"I have never used it", what was I meant to say...
>  In 
> fact, you now reminded me that I want one. Arghh...
>
> Someone already mentioned "enablement", didn't they?
>
> - T
>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed


> It still makes Pentax look like a 90lb weakling though and provides a FF
> alternative to the Canon 5D.  I expect Canon to come out with it's
> replacement one of these months.

Pentax is a 90lb weakling.
It's not so much that we love the brand as we feel sorry for them, sort of 
the same way you feel sorry for the beach geek whom everyone kicks sand in 
the face of.

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Re: PESO: My new Aunt

2007-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
At least she's not your new mother...

Sandra Hermann wrote:
> I shot a wedding in Tx a few weekends ago.  This is one of my favorite 
> pictures from the wedding.
> comments are more than welcome.
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/9988911
>
> I like the new pug set up a lot also.
>
>
> sandy
>
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154
>
>
>
>   


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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Scott Loveless
Rebekah wrote:
> I'm grouchy, and stubbornly opinionated, but still young.
>
> And of course, long live film, especially Kodachrome.
>
> rg2
>
>   
When/if you get a scanner and figure out how to scan Kodachrome, would 
please, please let me know?  Thanks.


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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
> Subject: Re: FIND
>
>
> I thought the rest of us greeting you yesterday were supposed to be  
> the grouchy old farts.
>
> He's pushing his luck already, isn't he?
>
> William Robb
>
>
>   
How does that make him different from the rest of us?

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
Subject: Re: FIND



> 
> I just play a grouchy old fart for the PDML. In person, I'm just  
> sweetness and light...  ]'-)
> 
>

Same here. Except I play the part of the nasty troll.

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Jack Davis
FTM, I don't suppose the 100 ISO would be missed in a full frame sensor
with "only" 12MP. Still, I'd feel deprived. :(

Jack
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It still makes Pentax look like a 90lb weakling though and provides a
> FF 
> alternative to the Canon 5D.  I expect Canon to come out with it's 
> replacement one of these months.
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Was, also, my first reaction.
> >I'm a slow person.
> >
> >Jack
> >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have
> preferred
> > > 100 or
> > > 50.
> > >
> > > Tom C.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:03:09 -0400
> > > >
> > > >On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Looks like a monster, probably a great camera. Gonna buy one?
> > > >
> > > >Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you
> have a
> > > >level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is
> 5
> > > >grand.
> > > >
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
But as I said, I can't get a long enough exposure time to do the job  
I want with much greater than ISO 3.

I don't stack filters, I have a 6 and an 8 stop ND. I fit them when I  
need them... after focusing and with the camera set up on a tripod.  
Long as I'm going to that effort for a shot, it isn't that big a deal.

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Tom C wrote:

> It's just not *wanting* to use the filters, or use them as little as
> possible.  You start stacking filters and using small apertures and  
> the view
> through the viewfinder is too dark to use. :-)


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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Rebekah wrote:

> I thought the rest of us greeting you yesterday were supposed  
> to be
> the grouchy old farts.
>>>
>> Nice quip :-)
>> I have my opinions, but I am not a grouch...usually :-)
>
> I'm grouchy, and stubbornly opinionated, but still young.
> And of course, long live film, especially Kodachrome.

I just play a grouchy old fart for the PDML. In person, I'm just  
sweetness and light...  ]'-)

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Re: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Let me guess, it's better than Canon.

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 23/08/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Kenny already has his initial review up.
>> 
>
> Genuine ROTLFMAO, thanks for that!
>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
I should have said "the best for this application at a reasonable price".

Tom C.



>From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:02:26 -0600
>
>The main thing is their extremely low noise characteristics.  Noise will
>build up in any sensor of course, but of all the DSLR's out there, the
>Digital Rebels and the 5D are recognized as the best.  There's also 
>hardware
>(filter mods) and control software that's been written for them
>
>Surpassing them are the dedicated, cooled, CCD cameras specifically 
>designed
>for astrophotography, that both record the image and send guiding signals 
>to
>the scope's computer, off of one chip.
>
>Tom C.
>
> >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:52 -0400
> >
> >On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Viewfinder
> > > aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the most
> >bang
> > > for the buck of any DSLR.
> >
> >Tom, why are the Digital Rebels good for astrophotography? I thought
> >mechanical shutters were still the best thing for astrophotography.
> >
> >Thx,
> >Amita
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
It's just not *wanting* to use the filters, or use them as little as 
possible.  You start stacking filters and using small apertures and the view 
through the viewfinder is too dark to use. :-)

Tom C.


>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:48:33 -0700
>
>
>On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Amita Guha wrote:
>
> > Funny you should mention it, I put my remaining 3 manual Pentaxes up
> > on ebay this week. My K1000 is at $6.50 right now, so I'm almost
> > there. ;)
>
>:-)
>
> > I agree with Tom that the lack of real ISO 100 is a disappointment,
> > although I rarely shoot ISO 100. Still, it'd be nice to have it.
>
>I've never missed ISO 100 or ISO 50. When I want to blur moving
>water, either of them is too high anyway. ISO 50 in sunny daylight is
>only 1/50 second @ f/11, 1/15 at f/22.
>
>I use a six-stop ND filter that renders ISO 200 to ISO 3 on the *ist
>DS, and ISO 100 to ISO 1.5 on the K10D. That lets me shoot at
>exposure times in the 1/4-1/2 second range, f/11, in sunny daylight.
>An eight-stop ND filter, or adding a polarizer, drops that further
>into the 1 to 4 second range, and dropping to f/22 runs the time out
>as far as 16 seconds. Those get the blur I'm after when I do this
>kind of thing...
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

> Funny you should mention it, I put my remaining 3 manual Pentaxes up
> on ebay this week. My K1000 is at $6.50 right now, so I'm almost
> there. ;)

:-)

> I agree with Tom that the lack of real ISO 100 is a disappointment,
> although I rarely shoot ISO 100. Still, it'd be nice to have it.

I've never missed ISO 100 or ISO 50. When I want to blur moving  
water, either of them is too high anyway. ISO 50 in sunny daylight is  
only 1/50 second @ f/11, 1/15 at f/22.

I use a six-stop ND filter that renders ISO 200 to ISO 3 on the *ist  
DS, and ISO 100 to ISO 1.5 on the K10D. That lets me shoot at  
exposure times in the 1/4-1/2 second range, f/11, in sunny daylight.  
An eight-stop ND filter, or adding a polarizer, drops that further  
into the 1 to 4 second range, and dropping to f/22 runs the time out  
as far as 16 seconds. Those get the blur I'm after when I do this  
kind of thing...

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
The main thing is their extremely low noise characteristics.  Noise will 
build up in any sensor of course, but of all the DSLR's out there, the 
Digital Rebels and the 5D are recognized as the best.  There's also hardware 
(filter mods) and control software that's been written for them

Surpassing them are the dedicated, cooled, CCD cameras specifically designed 
for astrophotography, that both record the image and send guiding signals to 
the scope's computer, off of one chip.

Tom C.

>From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:52 -0400
>
>On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Viewfinder
> > aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the most 
>bang
> > for the buck of any DSLR.
>
>Tom, why are the Digital Rebels good for astrophotography? I thought
>mechanical shutters were still the best thing for astrophotography.
>
>Thx,
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Re: Just Bought a KX

2007-08-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Glen Tortorella wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am a new member--just joined today. 
Welcome.
>  I currently own a Pentax ZX- 
> M.  I bought it three years ago, and, at the time, I was not sure if  
> I would like fully manual operation.  I like the ZX-M so much that it  
> inspired me to purchase the classic I bought today: a silver Pentax  
> KX.
I think that's a really nice old camera, although I never use it. In 
fact, you now reminded me that I want one. Arghh...

Someone already mentioned "enablement", didn't they?

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Rebekah
On 8/23/07, Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice quip :-)
>
> I have my opinions, but I am not a grouch...usually :-)
>
> Glen

> On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> > I thought the rest of us greeting you yesterday were supposed to be
> > the grouchy old farts.


I'm grouchy, and stubbornly opinionated, but still young.

And of course, long live film, especially Kodachrome.

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
On 8/23/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Viewfinder
> aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the most bang
> for the buck of any DSLR.

Tom, why are the Digital Rebels good for astrophotography? I thought
mechanical shutters were still the best thing for astrophotography.

Thx,
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Re: Some quick monitor info

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Thanks to all who commented - your insights will help my decision making 
when I start shopping.

-p

Paul Sorenson wrote:
> It seems my CRT monitor is about to bite the dust - it's starting to 
> exhibit keystoning so I suspect the yoke is becoming a problem.  If I 
> were to consider an LCD, what important specs should I be looking for?
> 
> Any quick help would be appreciated as I'm no doubt having to do some 
> shopping this afternoon.
> 
> TIA
> 
> -p
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Re: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Toralf Lund
graywolf wrote:
> Besides the image is only 36x23.9mm how do they get off calling that full 
> frame? Its BS, Nikon will never make a full frame D-SLR. No one will ever buy 
> it...
>
> Just thought I would get a jump on the rest of the posters.
>   
He, he.

Personally I was going to say that full-frame is slow and old-fashioned 
and, and, I forget the rest, actually. (Someone said "Kenny" earlier, 
didn't they?)

- T
>
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
>   
>> HAR.
>>
>> I'm never buying anything from Nikon that has the phrase"exciting new 
>> processor"
>>
>>
>> My D2H did, and look were that got me.(first name bases with service:-))
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 8/23/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Digital Image Studio"
>>> Subject: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082312nikond3.asp

 LOL ;-)
 
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for
a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments.

I also went and printed several other horse photos from different
days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice
and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be.

Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again.

Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i
have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews
etc.

I'll try and re calibrate

Dave

On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the
> photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The
> customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,
> which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for
> printing..
>
> If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you
> ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce
> exactly what you've done before.
>
> I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart
> handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question
> against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change
> monitor/printer configurations.
>
> G
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
> > And thats when this started, from the customer file
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 8/23/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> PC XP home CS2.
> >>
> >> Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
> >> Adjust photo in PSCS2
> >>
> >> Print from Preview
> >> Colour Adobe rgb
> >> Let PS determine colours
> >> Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
> >>
> >> Print box is set up for paper etc.
> >> Advanced and turn off colour management
> >>
> >> Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
> >> the monitor.
> >>
> >> I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
> >> file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
> >> wanted a 4x6 print.
> >>
> >> When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i
> >> went
> >> to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
> >> everything
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
> >>>
> >>> Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
> >>> first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With
> >>> Preview.
> >>> You should always check them before making a print.
> >>>
> >>> Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
> >>>
> >>> Godfrey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi all.
> 
>  Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out
>  dark.
>  One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm
>  printing
>  in Rgb.
> 
>  For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my
>  settings in
>  print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
>  I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
>  upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was
>  never
>  there before.
> 
>  I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
> 
>  Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
>  unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.
>  and the
>  other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
>  about 3'.
> 
>  Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
>  problems.??
> 
>  I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
>  well.
> 
>  This is frustrating.
> >>>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
What's wrong with that? It's simply making a statement that there's a 
feature or attribute that may not be to my liking. On the flip-side, there's 
plenty of things to like.

Like I said, I havn't noticed so gigantic a difference in viewfinders that 
it would sway me one way or another in making a purchase decision. It must 
be acceptable for most people's use otherwise most people (or a significant 
portion of the customer base) wouldn't be buying them.  I'm sure there's 
plenty of happy regular Joe's shooting with Digital Rebels. Viewfinder 
aside, they are a standout in astrophotography circles, with the most bang 
for the buck of any DSLR.

I would prefer a lower native ISO particularly for moving water shots which 
I like to take, because as you know, it would at times preclude the use of 
filters other than a polarizer when needed.


Tom C.


>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:42:19 -0700
>
>I'm pretty sure you'll voice some disappointment with almost anything
>that is announced by any manufacturer. And yet you seem to feel that
>a Canon DRebel viewfinder is acceptable for most people's use from
>other comments. Very curious - multiple standards disorder? ]'-)
>
>G
>
>On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred
> > 100 or 50.
>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
We all have our requirements.



Tom C.



>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:42:19 -0700
>
>I'm pretty sure you'll voice some disappointment with almost anything
>that is announced by any manufacturer. And yet you seem to feel that
>a Canon DRebel viewfinder is acceptable for most people's use from
>other comments. Very curious - multiple standards disorder? ]'-)
>
>G
>
>On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred
> > 100 or 50.
>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
It does??!!!???



Tom C.



>From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:21:41 -0400
>
>Very tempting indeed, I especially like the built in iPod.
>Norm
>
>Amita Guha wrote:
> > On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Looks like a monster, probably a great camera. Gonna buy one?
> >>
> >
> > Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you have a
> > level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is 5
> > grand.
> >
> > Amita
> >
> >
>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Amita Guha
On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Amita Guha wrote:
> >
> > Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you have a
> > level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is 5
> > grand.
>
> LOL ... With proper rationalization and self-delusion, money can
> appear from almost nowhere... ];-)

Funny you should mention it, I put my remaining 3 manual Pentaxes up
on ebay this week. My K1000 is at $6.50 right now, so I'm almost
there. ;)

I agree with Tom that the lack of real ISO 100 is a disappointment,
although I rarely shoot ISO 100. Still, it'd be nice to have it.

Amita

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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
Nice quip :-)

I have my opinions, but I am not a grouch...usually :-)

Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> I thought the rest of us greeting you yesterday were supposed to be
> the grouchy old farts.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Glen Tortorella wrote:
>
>> I agree...digital cameras are still lacking.  After about three years
>> of being "manual only," I have a similar feeling in regard to AF and
>> AE cameras.  Long live the "film" camera.  Even in 2007, that still
>> sounds very peculiar to me--a "film" camera...
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Margus Männik wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to share...
>>> developed 3 rolls of Acros and a bunch of slides this night. It's
>>> worth
>>> to shoot at least B/W time after time, it helps to understand, how
>>> long
>>> way digital cameras still needs to go to achieve the real
>>> photographic
>>> quality and feeling.
>>> Had a chance to handle Hasselblad H3D... got my DA*16-50 and
>>> DA*50-135
>>> last week, made a lots of pictures... they're all very fine, but
>>> there's
>>> still something, that exists in film, but I do not see in digital
>>> images.
>>> Film Is Not Dead :)
>>>
>>> BR, Margus
>
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I thought the rest of us greeting you yesterday were supposed to be  
the grouchy old farts.

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Glen Tortorella wrote:

> I agree...digital cameras are still lacking.  After about three years
> of being "manual only," I have a similar feeling in regard to AF and
> AE cameras.  Long live the "film" camera.  Even in 2007, that still
> sounds very peculiar to me--a "film" camera...
>
> Glen
>
> On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Margus Männik wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to share...
>> developed 3 rolls of Acros and a bunch of slides this night. It's
>> worth
>> to shoot at least B/W time after time, it helps to understand, how
>> long
>> way digital cameras still needs to go to achieve the real  
>> photographic
>> quality and feeling.
>> Had a chance to handle Hasselblad H3D... got my DA*16-50 and  
>> DA*50-135
>> last week, made a lots of pictures... they're all very fine, but
>> there's
>> still something, that exists in film, but I do not see in digital
>> images.
>> Film Is Not Dead :)
>>
>> BR, Margus


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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the  
photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The  
customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,  
which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for  
printing..

If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you  
ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce  
exactly what you've done before.

I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart  
handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question  
against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change  
monitor/printer configurations.

G


On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> And thats when this started, from the customer file
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/23/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> PC XP home CS2.
>>
>> Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
>> Adjust photo in PSCS2
>>
>> Print from Preview
>> Colour Adobe rgb
>> Let PS determine colours
>> Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
>>
>> Print box is set up for paper etc.
>> Advanced and turn off colour management
>>
>> Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
>> the monitor.
>>
>> I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
>> file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
>> wanted a 4x6 print.
>>
>> When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i  
>> went
>> to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
>> everything
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
>>>
>>> Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
>>> first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With  
>>> Preview.
>>> You should always check them before making a print.
>>>
>>> Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
>>>
>>> Godfrey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>
 Hi all.

 Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out  
 dark.
 One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm  
 printing
 in Rgb.

 For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my  
 settings in
 print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
 I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
 upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was  
 never
 there before.

 I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

 Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
 unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.  
 and the
 other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
 about 3'.

 Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
 problems.??

 I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
 well.

 This is frustrating.
>>>
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

>> Looks like a monster, probably a great camera. Gonna buy one?
>
> Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you have a
> level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is 5
> grand.

LOL ... With proper rationalization and self-delusion, money can  
appear from almost nowhere... ];-)

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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
It still makes Pentax look like a 90lb weakling though and provides a FF 
alternative to the Canon 5D.  I expect Canon to come out with it's 
replacement one of these months.


Tom C.


>From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Was, also, my first reaction.
>I'm a slow person.
>
>Jack
>--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred
> > 100 or
> > 50.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > >Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:03:09 -0400
> > >
> > >On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like a monster, probably a great camera. Gonna buy one?
> > >
> > >Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you have a
> > >level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is 5
> > >grand.
> > >
> > >Amita
> > >
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Re: FIND

2007-08-23 Thread Glen Tortorella
I agree...digital cameras are still lacking.  After about three years  
of being "manual only," I have a similar feeling in regard to AF and  
AE cameras.  Long live the "film" camera.  Even in 2007, that still  
sounds very peculiar to me--a "film" camera...

Glen

On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Margus Männik wrote:

> Just wanted to share...
> developed 3 rolls of Acros and a bunch of slides this night. It's  
> worth
> to shoot at least B/W time after time, it helps to understand, how  
> long
> way digital cameras still needs to go to achieve the real photographic
> quality and feeling.
> Had a chance to handle Hasselblad H3D... got my DA*16-50 and DA*50-135
> last week, made a lots of pictures... they're all very fine, but  
> there's
> still something, that exists in film, but I do not see in digital  
> images.
> Film Is Not Dead :)
>
> BR, Margus
>
>
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Re: PESO: My new Aunt

2007-08-23 Thread Jack Davis
Excellent setting. Offers an array of compositions, one of which you've
chosen well.
Reviewed your gallery and recognized some carousel shots seen and
comment on earlier. 
Some very nice work.

Jack
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> pictures from the wedding.
> comments are more than welcome.
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/9988911
> 
> I like the new pug set up a lot also.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
And thats when this started, from the customer file

Dave

On 8/23/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PC XP home CS2.
>
> Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
> Adjust photo in PSCS2
>
> Print from Preview
> Colour Adobe rgb
> Let PS determine colours
> Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
>
> Print box is set up for paper etc.
> Advanced and turn of colour management
>
> Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
> the monitor.
>
> I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
> file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
> wanted a 4x6 print.
>
> When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went
> to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
> everything
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
> >
> > Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
> > first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.
> > You should always check them before making a print.
> >
> > Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
> >
> > Godfrey
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
> > > One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
> > > in Rgb.
> > >
> > > For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
> > > print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
> > > I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
> > > upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
> > > there before.
> > >
> > > I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
> > >
> > > Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
> > > unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
> > > other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
> > > about 3'.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
> > > problems.??
> > >
> > > I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
> > > well.
> > >
> > > This is frustrating.
> >
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Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed

2007-08-23 Thread Tom C
Native ISO of 200 is a little disappointing.  Would have preferred 100 or 
50.

Tom C.


>From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: Re: OT: DPR Nikon D3, Full-Frame, previewed
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:03:09 -0400
>
>On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Looks like a monster, probably a great camera. Gonna buy one?
>
>Damn, it's tempting. It has a function that tells you if you have a
>level horizon, which would be great for me. :) Now all I need is 5
>grand.
>
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