RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements to Lightroom 1 which couldn't be run on the old PC. Wonder now whether I should start right away with LR 2, or wait some time till fully released. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: woensdag 2 april 2008 12:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta However, this is currently an early beta (beta 1) and as such really is for testing purpose only (but that multiple monitor support has me very impatient ;) Those having a licence can use it till august 2008. Others can use it as a 30days trial. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta
LR 2 is still a beta release, and expires in 30 days. The release date is sometime later this year, so LR 2 would leave you with a gap after your beta expires. It seems to make more sense to buy the current version now and upgrade when 2 comes out. I'd imagine the upgrade would be free or very cheap for existing users. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henk Terhell Sent: 03 April 2008 07:29 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements to Lightroom 1 which couldn't be run on the old PC. Wonder now whether I should start right away with LR 2, or wait some time till fully released. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: woensdag 2 april 2008 12:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta However, this is currently an early beta (beta 1) and as such really is for testing purpose only (but that multiple monitor support has me very impatient ;) Those having a licence can use it till august 2008. Others can use it as a 30days trial. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso: Kayak in Big Scenic
That looks like a pleasant way to spend the day. Very atmospheric enjoyable picture. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 03 April 2008 06:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso: Kayak in Big Scenic Taken a couple of years ago. Pentax istD. 77mm lens at f/9 ISO 400, 1/1000 second http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/kayaker.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point in time, probably reasonably stable but likely to have some bugs. Evaluation period for those without a key is 30 days, for those with a key it's due to expire in August. It is not at present compatible with v1.3.1 catalogs, nor are its metadata instructions guaranteed to work correctly with the current releases of Lightroom and Camera Raw. Better to work with v1.3.1 and subsequent versions as your image processing mainstay until Lightroom 2 is finished and released. I'm working with LR2 as a test/evaluation effort. Godfrey On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements to Lightroom 1 which couldn't be run on the old PC. Wonder now whether I should start right away with LR 2, or wait some time till fully released. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput! ;-) Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput! I think the Nunstruck is definitely git. I'm done here !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 01:15:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW Perhaps you should change your name, or move... to Australia. For a fair-skinned individual like me, being sent to Australia is akin to cruel and unusual punishment. Have you been taking that online Become a Homeland Security Officer course again? mike wilson wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/01 Tue PM 03:09:15 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And in a bad mood doing taxes) :-(( Have you thrown anything across the room yet? It was an annual tradition for me ;-/ I've just spoken to Her Majesty's Inland Revenue on the telephone. My next door neighbour has exactly the same name as me and has become self employed. It took me about five minutes to realise what was going on and explain the situation to a patently disbelieving officer. I think I see clouds on the horizon. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. Jostein 2008/4/3, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well. Keep your fingers crossed. I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs containing my back-ups of film scan data. They were stored in specially made CD paper jackets, the kind commonly used in books or commercial software packages. These jackets, bought from a local CD production company, had self-adhesive flaps and it appears something evaporating from this adhesive has damaged the CDs in the jacket to the point that they've become unredable. All this after about four years of storage. There was a distinct brownish colouring of the CDs in the section whch had been next to the flap. I've had a few CDs go bad, stored in plastic jewel cases. I've always tried to buy name brand ones such as Verbatim or Fuji, and I have always verified the data after the write. It's just the luck of the draw, I guess. I'm pretty close to buying an external RAID of some sort, and I will probably transfer as many of my files over to it from the CDs as is practical. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:19:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. Jostein I thought digital was supposed to make photography easy and cheap? };-) 2008/4/3, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well. Keep your fingers crossed. I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs containing my back-ups of film scan data. They were stored in specially made CD paper jackets, the kind commonly used in books or commercial software packages. These jackets, bought from a local CD production company, had self-adhesive flaps and it appears something evaporating from this adhesive has damaged the CDs in the jacket to the point that they've become unredable. All this after about four years of storage. There was a distinct brownish colouring of the CDs in the section whch had been next to the flap. I've had a few CDs go bad, stored in plastic jewel cases. I've always tried to buy name brand ones such as Verbatim or Fuji, and I have always verified the data after the write. It's just the luck of the draw, I guess. I'm pretty close to buying an external RAID of some sort, and I will probably transfer as many of my files over to it from the CDs as is practical. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: We can rebuild it. We have the technology.
From: Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 12:15:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: We can rebuild it. We have the technology. mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So last weekend I spent the majority of my time going through all the negs slides ... My estimate of the time it will take to digitise my personal collection of trivia into a presentable form is ~five years ... I'm in China. A waitress workng a 10-hour day with one day a month off makes at most $150 a month. For $500 you can take your pick of new graduates from decent universities. Want me to find out what having them scanned here would cost? I certainly would not recommend risking this with anything truly precious, but it might solve yor problem for trivia. Or consider taking them along on your next trip to anywhere cheap. Mexico? Thailand? ... Thanks for the offer. I'm not usually on the control-freak spectrum but the thought of sending them off en masse in the post almost makes me quiver with fear. However, I do visit Central Europe and Russia quite often. Maybe there are possibilities there - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 09:00:26 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW I've just spoken to Her Majesty's Inland Revenue on the telephone. My next door neighbour has exactly the same name as me and has become self employed. It took me about five minutes to realise what was going on and explain the situation to a patently disbelieving officer. I think I see clouds on the horizon. You must immediately change your name to Ken Dodd. Hmmm. Fluff my eyebrows up a bit and some Billy-Bob teeth and that might just work. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a trifle horrified Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
At 04:47 PM 3/04/2008, Cotty wrote: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. I think it's Norwegian for Boring as bat s#!t Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 02:32:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW Mike, That is a nightmare waiting to unfold... Regards, Bob S. Nobody smashed down the front door last night. I'll give it a fortnight and then stop wondering. On 4/2/08, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/01 Tue PM 03:09:15 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And in a bad mood doing taxes) :-(( Have you thrown anything across the room yet? It was an annual tradition for me ;-/ I've just spoken to Her Majesty's Inland Revenue on the telephone. My next door neighbour has exactly the same name as me and has become self employed. It took me about five minutes to realise what was going on and explain the situation to a patently disbelieving officer. I think I see clouds on the horizon. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:47:32 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. You've got slikkepot, what more do you want? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Kayak in Big Scenic
Nice. Very peaceful. The bright kayak in juxtaposition with the simple scene really makes it work. Excellent rendering. Paul On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:18 AM, William Robb wrote: Taken a couple of years ago. Pentax istD. 77mm lens at f/9 ISO 400, 1/1000 second http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/kayaker.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Noodles
Thanks Bruce. She really chowed down last night. Must be going through a growth spurt. Paul On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Great expression on her face! -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, April 2, 2008, 6:48:48 PM, you wrote: PS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7127482size=lg PS K20D, DA*50-135, 50 mm PS f3.5, 1/60th, ISO 200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput! I think the Nunstruck is definitely git. I'm done here !! -- Cheers, Cotty Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! A-P Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy RD Turku www.computec.fi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! Now, that looks familiar. I had the same trouble lately. They said it was the keyboard. Keybounce or what they call it. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Cotty wrote: On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput! ;-) Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput! Babelfish? Wrong web site. Try YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3zCQzZx68 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My wife's grand-children, Lea-Mei and Mateo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hello everybody! Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Thanks Mister Paul Stenquist for your appreciation of the children's photo, the heron's photos and the lake's photo. Thanks to Mister Bill Lawlor. It seems that RA-4 color prints is not very usual these days. It's been very interesting to read about your experience Bill and one of these days I'll give a try to a good inkjet printer. I have a thermal-dye printer for now because I didn't want to be an inkjet cartridge buyer. I can do 20X24 on my CPP2, which is pretty big for me. I would like to do the same with an inkjet printer but it is pretty expensive. And what about a digital DeVere enlarger! That would be the summit but my wallet can't afford it. I do experience some problems with the correct filtration but it depends a lot of the paper used. I get satisfactory results with Crystal Archive Super C. Thanks to Mister J.P.Alling for his comment on the heron flying away from us. Thanks to Mister Sullivan for his comments on the children's photos. I did try to soften the background of the children's photo but with no success right now. I'll give it another try. Thanks to Mister William Robb for his comments on the heron and the lake. Perhaps the heron have been over-saturated indeed. I was experiencing with Raw file at that time and I didn't realize that it is advisable not to alter too much the file in sharpness which can alter the colour also. Thanks to Mister Kenneth Waller for the Pentax K20D slideshow possibilities. Thanks to Mister Jack Davis on the same subject and the comments on the hummingbird's photos. Thanks to Mister J.P.Alling. Pentax has indeed provide us with a silent movie camera reminding Chaplin and McClaren (The Neighbours). And finally, thanks to Mister Daniel J. Matyola for his suggestion to submit my children's photos to the April PUG on the theme Portraits, which I did. I don't know what they will do with it. Sorry everyone for this long answer. But all those comments are really appreciated. When you're alone in your basement making prints and you've got only one person to show the results of your works, it's a real pleasure to read some comments on your photos. By the way, I'll do a short exhibition of 11 photos May the first on the theme REEDS. What don't you come say goodbye in Abitibi, Quebec, Canada? For hummingbirds, heron, lake, childrens, tulips: http://gaetanbeauchamp.ca/ For iPod Touch without Java: http://gaetanbeauchamp.ca/photos Some more to come on Juncos. Gaëtan Beauchamp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Just try again... On 4/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K20D RAW Files Error?
http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
I'm afraid my experiense supports this. Except that I'm having trouble with DNG, not PEF. The tint values are way off. Temp seems ok. Some times the colours seem beyond correcting. I really hope they fix this ASAP. MaritimTim 2008/4/3, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
Yes, it's a known issue. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
I see it only in certain kinds of light. Flash color temp and outdoor are right on. But I have experienced some situations where correction of in-camera DNG files is almost impossible. I expect we'll get a firmware update soon. I haven't shot any PEF. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tim Ãsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid my experiense supports this. Except that I'm having trouble with DNG, not PEF. The tint values are way off. Temp seems ok. Some times the colours seem beyond correcting. I really hope they fix this ASAP. MaritimTim 2008/4/3, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
Replace PEF with DNG and you have a true statement :D Untill now all my DNG was 'useable' and was able to get correct colours in Lightroom, but the values were strange. I did a quick check, made photos with K10D and K20D and used the same white balance settings on both of them. The K10D was ok but the K20D was very greenish (indoor, standard wolfram-bubbles :D) Adobe said it's a problem made by K20D recording strange values in DNG and they've to and they can fix this with a firmware update (so it's only software bug). But I am not suprised :D when K10D came out it had a quite buggy firmware (remember the Service Menu reachable by everyone? :D) .t http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Reminds me of the good old days of German coastal radio station Norddeich Radio. One of their routine messages was that owing to severe weather the pilotage in the Elbe and Weser estuary had been *temporarily* suspended. Temporarily... An awful word to pronounce for us Germans. Usually sounded as if someone had just fed them a glowing hot potatoe. :-)) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
I used to shot PEF files (well... almost only PEFs) since I have K20D just like I prefered them with K10D :D They are ok. The only problem is Lightroom does not recognizes them so I've to use the crappy PhotoLab... I mostly convert my PEFs in PhotoLab to 16 bit TIFs and then work on them with Photoshop. Can't wait for Phase One: Capture One and Adobe Lightroom to support K20D PEF files. Cheers, .t I see it only in certain kinds of light. Flash color temp and outdoor are right on. But I have experienced some situations where correction of in-camera DNG files is almost impossible. I expect we'll get a firmware update soon. I haven't shot any PEF. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
No, this is a DNG problem. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replace PEF with DNG and you have a true statement :D Untill now all my DNG was 'useable' and was able to get correct colours in Lightroom, but the values were strange. I did a quick check, made photos with K10D and K20D and used the same white balance settings on both of them. The K10D was ok but the K20D was very greenish (indoor, standard wolfram-bubbles :D) Adobe said it's a problem made by K20D recording strange values in DNG and they've to and they can fix this with a firmware update (so it's only software bug). But I am not suprised :D when K10D came out it had a quite buggy firmware (remember the Service Menu reachable by everyone? :D) .t http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
Outdoor shots are mostly ok, but at cloudy days they can be hard to correct. Some times imposible. So far I haven't experienced it on important shots. MaritimTim 2008/4/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see it only in certain kinds of light. Flash color temp and outdoor are right on. But I have experienced some situations where correction of in-camera DNG files is almost impossible. I expect we'll get a firmware update soon. I haven't shot any PEF. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid my experiense supports this. Except that I'm having trouble with DNG, not PEF. The tint values are way off. Temp seems ok. Some times the colours seem beyond correcting. I really hope they fix this ASAP. MaritimTim 2008/4/3, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
lol yeah... It needs practice... :-) Jostein 2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just try again... On 4/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Content yet again.
Timestamps are appended at the local computer. My machines clock is up to date. If someone is in a time zone further west I would expect that they would have a earlier time stamp if they replied before their local time caught up. I'm using Thunderbird which I believe just puts the local machines date/time into that timestamp without any offset for GMT. I don't remember if that's the SMPT spec. for how timestamps work on pop clients, and I'm really too lazy to look it up, but I figure if Thunderbird does it that way it's probably the standard. It doesn't surprise me though it can be annoying. I've sent a number of e-mails in the last few weeks that simply got lost. Not just to the list. The list e-mails will sometimes come back almost instantaneously, (well within 7 minutes which is delay I've set in my client between server checks), sometimes delayed by hours to days. I don't know if it's a problem with my provider, the list or somewhere else. Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm...don't have any ideas what's causing it, but often your posts arrive from the list with a time/date stamp later than posts responding to yours. -p P. J. Alling wrote: You know I've been having trouble with about every type of e-mail lately but the list seems to be the worst. I just got tired of typing test. I'm trying to figure out if it's all related to my provider or the Internet as a whole. After all you don't have to look. John Celio wrote: Slow list, I got worried. Unless you're testing your list reception, I don't understand why you keep doing this. It's just slow. If you don't believe it, go check the archive instead of emailing everyone. Thanks. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Content yet again.
Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm...don't have any ideas what's causing it, but often your posts arrive from the list with a time/date stamp later than posts responding to yours. It' been like that since the daylight savings time change over. I'm guessing PJ corrected his time, but botched his DST settings. -p P. J. Alling wrote: You know I've been having trouble with about every type of e-mail lately but the list seems to be the worst. I just got tired of typing test. I'm trying to figure out if it's all related to my provider or the Internet as a whole. After all you don't have to look. John Celio wrote: Slow list, I got worried. Unless you're testing your list reception, I don't understand why you keep doing this. It's just slow. If you don't believe it, go check the archive instead of emailing everyone. Thanks. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calling all the Kiwi's
Yes they are spectacular. Looking at them I can't help to think of how bored the locals must be with the scenery. David Savage wrote: Walt, I enjoyed them all, but some of those shots are jaw dropingly stunning. Quite a good advertisement for NZ for sure. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/ I have added some pics of New Zealand's South Is that I shot back in 75-77 when I was down there for Deepfreeze. I know there are some Kiwi's in this group and I would appreciate some insights to some of the pics that I may have forgotten. For one I cannot remember the name of the castle outside Christchurch that was a favorite tourist stop. Appreciate any help that can be provided. Walt -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think I'm just paranoid...) AlunFoto wrote: At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. Jostein 2008/4/3, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well. Keep your fingers crossed. I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs containing my back-ups of film scan data. They were stored in specially made CD paper jackets, the kind commonly used in books or commercial software packages. These jackets, bought from a local CD production company, had self-adhesive flaps and it appears something evaporating from this adhesive has damaged the CDs in the jacket to the point that they've become unredable. All this after about four years of storage. There was a distinct brownish colouring of the CDs in the section whch had been next to the flap. I've had a few CDs go bad, stored in plastic jewel cases. I've always tried to buy name brand ones such as Verbatim or Fuji, and I have always verified the data after the write. It's just the luck of the draw, I guess. I'm pretty close to buying an external RAID of some sort, and I will probably transfer as many of my files over to it from the CDs as is practical. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 01:15:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW Perhaps you should change your name, or move... to Australia. For a fair-skinned individual like me, being sent to Australia is akin to cruel and unusual punishment. Have you been taking that online Become a Homeland Security Officer course Just suggesting a reasonable precaution. After all you don't have a bill of rights and look at what our bureaucrats can do even with one. again? mike wilson wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/01 Tue PM 03:09:15 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And in a bad mood doing taxes) :-(( Have you thrown anything across the room yet? It was an annual tradition for me ;-/ I've just spoken to Her Majesty's Inland Revenue on the telephone. My next door neighbour has exactly the same name as me and has become self employed. It took me about five minutes to realise what was going on and explain the situation to a patently disbelieving officer. I think I see clouds on the horizon. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
I thought digital was supposed to make photography easy and cheap? };-) If we stored negatives the way we are supposed to film would be a lot more expensive too. (I'll bet the archival film sheets are eating away at my negatives even now). mike wilson wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:19:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. Jostein I thought digital was supposed to make photography easy and cheap? };-) 2008/4/3, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well. Keep your fingers crossed. I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs containing my back-ups of film scan data. They were stored in specially made CD paper jackets, the kind commonly used in books or commercial software packages. These jackets, bought from a local CD production company, had self-adhesive flaps and it appears something evaporating from this adhesive has damaged the CDs in the jacket to the point that they've become unredable. All this after about four years of storage. There was a distinct brownish colouring of the CDs in the section whch had been next to the flap. I've had a few CDs go bad, stored in plastic jewel cases. I've always tried to buy name brand ones such as Verbatim or Fuji, and I have always verified the data after the write. It's just the luck of the draw, I guess. I'm pretty close to buying an external RAID of some sort, and I will probably transfer as many of my files over to it from the CDs as is practical. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! A-P Antti-Pekka Virjonen it's an old Finnish proverb - To cool a colostomy, hire Walter. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
2008/4/3, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-) Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous. The best surprise yet, though, was Southwark. :-) Cheers, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Cotty wrote: On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput! ;-) Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput! I think the Nunstruck is definitely git. I'm done here !! Done? I think Cooked is a better word... -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Content yet again.
What I'm seeing is not a time zone differential. It may range from 5 or 6 minutes to as much as 30. In any case, I suspect it may be an anomaly in the way the PDML server bounces the messages out to subscribers and obviously has nothing to do with your messages being lost in cyberspace. ;] -p P. J. Alling wrote: Timestamps are appended at the local computer. My machines clock is up to date. If someone is in a time zone further west I would expect that they would have a earlier time stamp if they replied before their local time caught up. I'm using Thunderbird which I believe just puts the local machines date/time into that timestamp without any offset for GMT. I don't remember if that's the SMPT spec. for how timestamps work on pop clients, and I'm really too lazy to look it up, but I figure if Thunderbird does it that way it's probably the standard. It doesn't surprise me though it can be annoying. I've sent a number of e-mails in the last few weeks that simply got lost. Not just to the list. The list e-mails will sometimes come back almost instantaneously, (well within 7 minutes which is delay I've set in my client between server checks), sometimes delayed by hours to days. I don't know if it's a problem with my provider, the list or somewhere else. Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm...don't have any ideas what's causing it, but often your posts arrive from the list with a time/date stamp later than posts responding to yours. -p P. J. Alling wrote: You know I've been having trouble with about every type of e-mail lately but the list seems to be the worst. I just got tired of typing test. I'm trying to figure out if it's all related to my provider or the Internet as a whole. After all you don't have to look. John Celio wrote: Slow list, I got worried. Unless you're testing your list reception, I don't understand why you keep doing this. It's just slow. If you don't believe it, go check the archive instead of emailing everyone. Thanks. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
help needed for new pentax lens website
Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Content yet again.
Hum, that makes sense. I didn't botch it exactly, turned the automatic DST update off. Requires a patch to either the OS or the BIOS that didn't take properly, since the government decided to play god with time, (it's interesting that DST is supposed to either make things safer, or save money/energy but does neither). I guess I'll have to fix it now. Scott Loveless wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm...don't have any ideas what's causing it, but often your posts arrive from the list with a time/date stamp later than posts responding to yours. It' been like that since the daylight savings time change over. I'm guessing PJ corrected his time, but botched his DST settings. -p P. J. Alling wrote: You know I've been having trouble with about every type of e-mail lately but the list seems to be the worst. I just got tired of typing test. I'm trying to figure out if it's all related to my provider or the Internet as a whole. After all you don't have to look. John Celio wrote: Slow list, I got worried. Unless you're testing your list reception, I don't understand why you keep doing this. It's just slow. If you don't believe it, go check the archive instead of emailing everyone. Thanks. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
wolfram-bubbles Sounds more high tech in a strange physics sort of way... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replace PEF with DNG and you have a true statement :D Untill now all my DNG was 'useable' and was able to get correct colours in Lightroom, but the values were strange. I did a quick check, made photos with K10D and K20D and used the same white balance settings on both of them. The K10D was ok but the K20D was very greenish (indoor, standard wolfram-bubbles :D) Adobe said it's a problem made by K20D recording strange values in DNG and they've to and they can fix this with a firmware update (so it's only software bug). But I am not suprised :D when K10D came out it had a quite buggy firmware (remember the Service Menu reachable by everyone? :D) .t http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calling all the Kiwi's
Walt, That's a great gallery with spectacular views. Franz Joseph and Queenstown remind me that I have updated shots from 2006. That gas station in Franz Joseph is still there and the first thing you see. I also showed my wife the picture of your's, just to remember when WE were thin and not gray. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:57 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they are spectacular. Looking at them I can't help to think of how bored the locals must be with the scenery. David Savage wrote: Walt, I enjoyed them all, but some of those shots are jaw dropingly stunning. Quite a good advertisement for NZ for sure. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/ I have added some pics of New Zealand's South Is that I shot back in 75-77 when I was down there for Deepfreeze. I know there are some Kiwi's in this group and I would appreciate some insights to some of the pics that I may have forgotten. For one I cannot remember the name of the castle outside Christchurch that was a favorite tourist stop. Appreciate any help that can be provided. Walt -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
thunderbird problems (was - No Content yet again.)
Thunderbird has some known issues with timestamps and DST. Try deleting the .msf files for all your profiles. You'll need to shut down thunderbird to do this. The application will build new files when you start it back up. You might want to back up your profiles, just in case you accidentally delete the wrong files. Paul Sorenson wrote: What I'm seeing is not a time zone differential. It may range from 5 or 6 minutes to as much as 30. In any case, I suspect it may be an anomaly in the way the PDML server bounces the messages out to subscribers and obviously has nothing to do with your messages being lost in cyberspace. ;] -p P. J. Alling wrote: Timestamps are appended at the local computer. My machines clock is up to date. If someone is in a time zone further west I would expect that they would have a earlier time stamp if they replied before their local time caught up. I'm using Thunderbird which I believe just puts the local machines date/time into that timestamp without any offset for GMT. I don't remember if that's the SMPT spec. for how timestamps work on pop clients, and I'm really too lazy to look it up, but I figure if Thunderbird does it that way it's probably the standard. It doesn't surprise me though it can be annoying. I've sent a number of e-mails in the last few weeks that simply got lost. Not just to the list. The list e-mails will sometimes come back almost instantaneously, (well within 7 minutes which is delay I've set in my client between server checks), sometimes delayed by hours to days. I don't know if it's a problem with my provider, the list or somewhere else. Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm...don't have any ideas what's causing it, but often your posts arrive from the list with a time/date stamp later than posts responding to yours. -p -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 02:01:44 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta 2008/4/3, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-) Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous. The best surprise yet, though, was Southwark. :-) Cholmondeley. My favourite; Featherstonehaugh. Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy. http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?British=Cholmondeley For the German in you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0lWICH3rY (Hope that comes out, viewing videos is blocked) - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Ok so the Leica S mount lenses could only be used a macro distances, but the Canon f0.95 would let in a lot of light! P. J. Alling wrote: Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-) Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous. The best surprise yet, though, was Southwark. :-) Cheers, Jostein I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha - it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of that joke. If you really want to impress the locals next time you're here, try the proper Cockney pronunciations - 'sooth vark' and 'leek easter square'. You'll be amazed at their friendly reaction - they might even offer you a pint of their local pastie and a knees up! The best way to pronounce 'superfluous' is 'too much'. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
I would think it best to restrict something like this to lenses that can be used without an adapter. It might be worthwhile to include m42 Pentax lenses, but I would draw the line there. BTW, although you can fit a Leica 39mm screwmount lens to a Pentax with adapters, it won't focus anywhere close to infinity. It will be macro only. Not exactly useful. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
pentaxmagazine.org seems to be available :-) and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: help needed for new pentax lens website
anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 16:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: help needed for new pentax lens website I would think it best to restrict something like this to lenses that can be used without an adapter. It might be worthwhile to include m42 Pentax lenses, but I would draw the line there. BTW, although you can fit a Leica 39mm screwmount lens to a Pentax with adapters, it won't focus anywhere close to infinity. It will be macro only. Not exactly useful. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Hi P.J., I didn't make myself clear enough it seems (sorry, english is not my native tongue, but i'll try my best). The point is not to have a *complete* list of lenses that in theory can be somehow attached to a pentax body, who would want that anyway? maybe such a list would be historical interesting for one or the other, but it's not my goal. I would like to have everything in there that has still practical relevance (with relevant i mean there are chances to pick one up at the bay, for instance), thats enough for me (and thats mainly k-mount lenses, and maybe some M42s). If someone feels the M35 or something even more exotic needs to be in there as well, he can of course enter them, no problem. Thats the beauty of a database solution ;-) cheers Andreas P. J. Alling wrote: Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) [...] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: help needed for new pentax lens website
Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. Steve the philosophy major Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:53 AM anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 16:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: help needed for new pentax lens website I would think it best to restrict something like this to lenses that can be used without an adapter. It might be worthwhile to include m42 Pentax lenses, but I would draw the line there. BTW, although you can fit a Leica 39mm screwmount lens to a Pentax with adapters, it won't focus anywhere close to infinity. It will be macro only. Not exactly useful. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Andreas Pfotenhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:52 AM pentaxmagazine.org seems to be available :-) and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47f4fd7c55064098910289! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
Oops, I meant Mark, of course! Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . ...and Marks writes on Cormorants. Dario - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2 in her head. Steve the philosophy major Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:53 AM anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Godfrey, I think I read that those having a key can invite others to join the beta test till august. It won't make LR2 any less beta than it is but it removes the 30 days problem. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point in time, probably reasonably stable but likely to have some bugs. Evaluation period for those without a key is 30 days, for those with a key it's due to expire in August. It is not at present compatible with v1.3.1 catalogs, nor are its metadata instructions guaranteed to work correctly with the current releases of Lightroom and Camera Raw. Better to work with v1.3.1 and subsequent versions as your image processing mainstay until Lightroom 2 is finished and released. I'm working with LR2 as a test/evaluation effort. Godfrey On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements to Lightroom 1 which couldn't be run on the old PC. Wonder now whether I should start right away with LR 2, or wait some time till fully released. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 04:53:07PM +0100, Bob W wrote: anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob Well, by definition, if any of the philosophers are out there then it must be possible for something to be close to infinity (as long as a philosopher is included in your definition of anything) Some of the philosophers that I've met are definitely far out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
if we could write we wouldn't have cameras... Christine Aguila wrote: and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 12:27:39PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2 in her head. A mathematician doesn't care what the value of 2+2 is; it's sufficient to show that the answer is unique (and independent of the order in which you take the addends :-). Relating this to things that happen in the real world is a physics problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard storage medium. These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to worry about software and drivers. Or, make five excellent prints of all your best work and delete all the original files. This means that everything you have is as good as a film image and print was. Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think I'm just paranoid...) AlunFoto wrote: At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
...and Marks writes on Cormorants. Dario - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 12:27:39PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2 in her head. A mathematician doesn't care what the value of 2+2 is; it's sufficient to show that the answer is unique (and independent of the order in which you take the addends :-). Relating this to things that happen in the real world is a physics problem. Christie says I like him. She doesn't think very much of me at the moment, though. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Not sure, I've not had time to read all the literature as yet. The boss has been using his whip lately. ;-) Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Thibouille wrote: Godfrey, I think I read that those having a key can invite others to join the beta test till august. It won't make LR2 any less beta than it is but it removes the 30 days problem. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point in time, probably reasonably stable but likely to have some bugs. Evaluation period for those without a key is 30 days, for those with a key it's due to expire in August. It is not at present compatible with v1.3.1 catalogs, nor are its metadata instructions guaranteed to work correctly with the current releases of Lightroom and Camera Raw. Better to work with v1.3.1 and subsequent versions as your image processing mainstay until Lightroom 2 is finished and released. I'm working with LR2 as a test/evaluation effort. Godfrey On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements to Lightroom 1 which couldn't be run on the old PC. Wonder now whether I should start right away with LR 2, or wait some time till fully released. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Amazon has a good price on the K20D
$1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
But the Zenit M39 lenses can be used (Leica thread with M42/K register) -Adam On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok so the Leica S mount lenses could only be used a macro distances, but the Canon f0.95 would let in a lot of light! P. J. Alling wrote: Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Steve Desjardins wrote: I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2 in her head. Mathematicians prove things. Addition is left as an exercise for the listener. ;-) Godfrey Mathematician In Absentia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Scott, Sure.and the sine of the square root of 1 comes right up any time you ask. Huh? John Graves WA1JG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Loveless wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2 in her head. Steve the philosophy major Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:53 AM anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
John Graves wrote: Scott, Sure.and the sine of the square root of 1 comes right up any time you ask. Huh? Hold on a sec. I'll ask. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Amazon has a good price on the K20D
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Amazon has a good price on the K20D $1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Thats about $175.00 more than I paid at my local store. That was a Canadian price, not USA, and was body only. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
- Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . if we could write we wouldn't have cameras... Or blogs WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
2008/4/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha - it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of that joke. If you really want to impress the locals next time you're here, try the proper Cockney pronunciations - 'sooth vark' and 'leek easter square'. You'll be amazed at their friendly reaction - they might even offer you a pint of their local pastie and a knees up! The best way to pronounce 'superfluous' is 'too much'. Like in superfluous information? :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
The backup heaven is Restore. :-) Jostein 2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up becomes an issue. Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked for the last 15 months. You only find that out when you try to go back and retrieve something. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard storage medium. These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to worry about software and drivers. Or, make five excellent prints of all your best work and delete all the original files. This means that everything you have is as good as a film image and print was. Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think I'm just paranoid...) AlunFoto wrote: At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up becomes an issue. Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked for the last 15 months. You only find that out when you try to go back and retrieve something. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard storage medium. These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to worry about software and drivers. Or, make five excellent prints of all your best work and delete all the original files. This means that everything you have is as good as a film image and print was. Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think I'm just paranoid...) AlunFoto wrote: At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously though, what do you think? You do it, I'll read it. Promise. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Amazon has a good price on the K20D
Canadian? It was happy to charge my credit card that amount. I didn't actually buy it, just went through the checkout for a while. I did note that Adorama has it for 1196. William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 1:07 PM - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Amazon has a good price on the K20D $1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Thats about $175.00 more than I paid at my local store. That was a Canadian price, not USA, and was body only. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47f5104355061089616026! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D RAW Files Error?
:D Okay okay! The english name just didn't came to my mind :D .t P. J. Alling wrote: wolfram-bubbles Sounds more high tech in a strange physics sort of way... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
Well we've already designed a number of front pages over the years... Jostein 2008/4/3, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tracks in blue
Thanks a lot, all of you, for constructive comments. The blueness is a construct all together, the true conditions were heavy clouds and leaden gray light. For such conditions, the sight range was remarkably long and contrasts were more crisp than one could expect. That's why I wanted to play around with the light. Deep blue could very well be perceived as a kind of dusk setting, and that's what I was after. However, after a while I had trouble deciding how much to press the issue. Thanks again for the feedback. If you don't mind I might post a redo of this one later... :-) Best, Jostein Paul Stenquist wrote: If you mean, is it realistic? I would say no. But it's an attractive photo. Realism is of no concern to me, although it apparently is of major concern to some. If it's interesting and of visual value, it's worthy. This is worthy, but not on a par with your best work. Mike Wilson wrote: It certainly makes you look twice but I can see no reason to believe it is not an honest portrayal. Doug Franklin wrote: It seems too blue to me, Jostein, but I've never been to that part of the world, either ... for all I know, it appeared exactly like that. :-) Godfrey wrote: I like the geometries and lines in it, overall find it a pleasing scene. It seems too blue for realism on my screen; not knowing what the scene actually appeared like I can't judge any further than that. Bob Sullivan wrote: Is this a trick question? The picture is so blue on my laptop. Without the color cast, it would be a fine photo. As rendered, it is not what my eyes/brain 'see' in this kind of light. P. J. Alling wrote: I didn't comment before but it is very blue. (I downloaded a copy and even the autocolor control in Photoshop 7 gave somewhat better color rendition). David Savage wrote: Not really. In my experience white sandy beaches dunes are never that colour. Ken Waller wrote: IMHO - no. The blue overall hue doesn't come across to me as real. Could be, but its not what I generally expect to see when viewing a snow scene. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading 200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate doing that for the hard drive archive systems only. Mount a terabyte drive, say validate it and come back in a couple of hours. All the hard drive archives are twinned disks so if there's a problem with one, the other is likely just fine and I dump the bad, replace it, recopy the data. (It's not happened in the past four years of doing it this way ...) For the small media, I just make two copies and store them carefully. So far, on spot checks, they're all fine. If I find a bad one, I'll make another copy of the good one. Replication, replication... Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up becomes an issue. Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked for the last 15 months. You only find that out when you try to go back and retrieve something. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
2008/4/3, Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! Er'ekke nok nå'a? Takk Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading 200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate doing that for the hard drive archive systems only. Mount a terabyte drive, say validate it and come back in a couple of hours. All the hard drive archives are twinned disks so if there's a problem with one, the other is likely just fine and I dump the bad, replace it, recopy the data. (It's not happened in the past four years of doing it this way ...) For the small media, I just make two copies and store them carefully. So far, on spot checks, they're all fine. If I find a bad one, I'll make another copy of the good one. Replication, replication... Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up becomes an issue. Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked for the last 15 months. You only find that out when you try to go back and retrieve something. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GFM: Sold out
I didn't check the site yesterday. Anyone notice when they announced all seats were filled? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM: Sold out
Mark Roberts wrote: I didn't check the site yesterday. Anyone notice when they announced all seats were filled? April 1st. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM: Sold out
Mark Roberts wrote: I didn't check the site yesterday. Anyone notice when they announced all seats were filled? Did you forget to buy a ticket? ;) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calling all the Kiwi's
Thanks all for the comments. I'm still hoping some of the members who are from/in NZ will see and post. I am still sorting out the cobwebs of my brain trying to remember the name of that castle! Walt On 4/3/08, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt, That's a great gallery with spectacular views. Franz Joseph and Queenstown remind me that I have updated shots from 2006. That gas station in Franz Joseph is still there and the first thing you see. I also showed my wife the picture of your's, just to remember when WE were thin and not gray. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:57 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they are spectacular. Looking at them I can't help to think of how bored the locals must be with the scenery. David Savage wrote: Walt, I enjoyed them all, but some of those shots are jaw dropingly stunning. Quite a good advertisement for NZ for sure. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/ I have added some pics of New Zealand's South Is that I shot back in 75-77 when I was down there for Deepfreeze. I know there are some Kiwi's in this group and I would appreciate some insights to some of the pics that I may have forgotten. For one I cannot remember the name of the castle outside Christchurch that was a favorite tourist stop. Appreciate any help that can be provided. Walt -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
Thank God, I thought for a moment there was more than one of them. Dario Bonazza wrote: Oops, I meant Mark, of course! Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . ...and Marks writes on Cormorants. Dario - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Mebbe Mike Johnston could write that article and Bill could pen the counterpoint. Ooh. Wouldn't that be fun? -- Scott duck and cover Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Amazon has a good price on the K20D
Give it a couple of months and the discounting will begin in earnest. Steve Desjardins wrote: $1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Ah, but those are Zenit lenses another kettle of fish altogether. Adam Maas wrote: But the Zenit M39 lenses can be used (Leica thread with M42/K register) -Adam On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok so the Leica S mount lenses could only be used a macro distances, but the Canon f0.95 would let in a lot of light! P. J. Alling wrote: Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon, (ah think of using a canon f 0.95 50mm), RF lenses, not to forget Pentax 645 and 67 lenses. Then there's the TX T4 Adapall etc. These are just the adapters I know of. The scope is daunting and the number of different lenses is astounding. Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote: Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others), but thats not what i have in mind, because kmp has a pure technical perspective and it is restricted to Pentax lenses, while i would like to cover *all* lens producers that are usable on a Pentax body, and my project will offer more participation for users, it will be possible to rate lenses, add comments, there will be a list of external resources (URLs) pointing to lens reviews users can add to, etc .. somewhat like a Wiki but mostly with structured data (so for example one can easily filter for ultra wide lenses that offer automatic aperture, have a availability rating greater than 3 and a overall quality rating greater or equal 4) and a set of permissions with what a particular type of user(anonymous, registered user,staff,admin) can do or not. i think you get a rough idea. Problem is, this is some amount of data i have to collect and to maintain, thats why the whole thing is database driven which in turn means, no html skills will be necessary to add and maintain data, and I'm optimistic that I'll find sooner or later someone who's interested in helping me. Second Problem is, i don't know 99% of these lenses, and thats why i come to you guys. Getting functional characteristics of a lens (weight, size, focal length, aperture etc) is in most cases no big problem, thanks to google, but what i would like to have are descriptions of the lens, preferably from someone who had it in his hands and did some shots. Pictures of lenses are also very welcome. Of course contributions will be attributed and pictures will have a explicit copyright notice, with a link to the homepage of the contributor or something similar, except the contributor does not want to be mentioned. Website itself is still in alpha stage, so there is no layout and only some sample data, I'm still adding/removing/changing features, but as soon as i enter early beta I'll show you something :-) with kind regards from Germany, Andreas PS: maybe i should mention that this will *not* be a commercial thing, actually i intend to place the whole thing under a Creative Commons 3 Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License (horrible name ^^), except of course for picture contributors that wish to retain their copyrights. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Well my point was that I burned some perfectly good CDs on an HP 2100 burner under Win98. I moved that burner to a machine running Win2K, those CDs were unreadable. They weren't that important so I put them aside to try some data recovery at a later time. I acquired a DVD burner, that was put into the Win2K machine, and the HP 2100 was returned to the Win98 machine. A while later I came across the unreadable CDs and decided to try to recover the data. They worked the first time in the Win98 machine, the Win2K machine still can't read them. Software and Drivers... Bob Sullivan wrote: I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up becomes an issue. Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked for the last 15 months. You only find that out when you try to go back and retrieve something. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard storage medium. These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to worry about software and drivers. Or, make five excellent prints of all your best work and delete all the original files. This means that everything you have is as good as a film image and print was. Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think I'm just paranoid...) AlunFoto wrote: At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport media only. Privately, I tend to think the same way. I use DVDs as a second-stage disaster recovery backup, and make sure to keep the DVD unit used to produce the backup together with the discs. I don't wish to run the risk of subtle incompatibilities between different devices. And yes, I've seen that happen at work. I have even seen differences among DVD players/recorders from the same mfg. and same production run (similar serial numbers). Backup is, at its basest, a continuous and iterative process. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
I prefer redundant information. AlunFoto wrote: 2008/4/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha - it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of that joke. If you really want to impress the locals next time you're here, try the proper Cockney pronunciations - 'sooth vark' and 'leek easter square'. You'll be amazed at their friendly reaction - they might even offer you a pint of their local pastie and a knees up! The best way to pronounce 'superfluous' is 'too much'. Like in superfluous information? :-) Jostein -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .
I can see the title page now.* PENTAX Something (All the cormorants fit to print) *I post this, by the way, with much egret. AlunFoto wrote: Well we've already designed a number of front pages over the years... Jostein 2008/4/3, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Andreas Pfotenhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:52 AM pentaxmagazine.org seems to be available :-) and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history features, photographic movements, photographic scholarship, and regular departments. And more . . . We could vote for folks willing to be on the editorial committee. We'd draw from the rich skills, technical know-how, and international experience so evident on this list. Just some article ideas to get us going Walter writes on what it was like to be a navy photographer Cotty writes on what it's like to be media guy Cassino Snowflakes Department: Irks Quirks of Pentax Equiment: When your K100D does this, then do this Stenquist writes on Panning techniques for car photography Frank writes on grain, focus, tilt Ralf writes about shooting industry. etc etc And to follow list fashion these days, we could write it in German ;-) Seriously though, what do you think? Cheers, Christine -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd pay to see that... Scott Loveless wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Mebbe Mike Johnston could write that article and Bill could pen the counterpoint. Ooh. Wouldn't that be fun? -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Scott Loveless wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Mebbe Mike Johnston could write that article and Bill could pen the counterpoint. Ooh. Wouldn't that be fun? Not for Mike. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
