RE: full frame rumours and innuendo

[J. C. O'Connell]

#290223030265

check out this rare PENTAX "NED" camera on ebay!
lol

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Re: K10D is back, again

[Marcus A. Hofmann]

Just out of curiosity, is there some standard way to test this? I have  
not seen any focusing issues with my camera and lenses (because so  
many pictures are out of focus, which is of course user error), but I  
was wondering if there is a way to find out.

Thanks.


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> 4cm is huge. That's not on the order of matching up lenses, as with
> the K20D. Either there's a major mirror box problem that they're
> missing or the lens is severely out of whack. Is it out of whack when
> you manual focus as well? If so, it's probably the mirror box.
> Paul
> On Apr 15, 2008, at 7:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Initial test with the new DA 50 F2,8, still shows about a 4cm back
>> focus at F2.8.
>>
>> So now what, send in the 50, the FA 100, back with the camera. Pentax
>> said all i ok, and if i'm not happy, to do just that.,
>>
>> If so, do they "match up" the lenses like the K20D does.
>>
>> This is so bogus, i can see no why people get fed up and switch.
>> Courior bills are going to be high on this.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM, David J Brooks
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Mr Purolator arrived about 5 minutes after i got back from my PM  
>>> run.
>>>
>>> I'll test it Tuesday.
>>>
>>> There is a letter inside saying focus checked and is ok. If
>>> problem is
>>> still evident, to send in the lenses.
>>>
>>> That will be an expensive courior bill. If i have to, i'll drive
>>> them in.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: PESO: First Daffy

[P. J. Alling]

I like the composition.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> My first daffodil bloomed today. Can you spot the itty-bitty bug?  
> Thought about cloning him, but I think that would be a violation of  
> the natural order. Or something like that.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7170277&size=lg
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Re: Pulitzer

[Boris Liberman]

Speechless...

Derby Chang wrote:
> I am speechless
> 
> http://www.prestongannaway.com/main.php
> 
> (the Pulitzer winning entry is under Stories and Essays - Remember Me)
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Re: PESO: First Daffy

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Thanks for the feedbakc Jack. Didn't want another bloom in the middle  
pic, so I looked for a frame that would maintain some balance yet  
push the flower off to the side. I have to disagree in regard to the  
background. I shot some at a wider ap that were much smoother, but I  
prefer the texture of this one.
Paul
On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Wouldn't normally want the blossom this far to the right in the frame,
> but the shape and line of both the leaf and stem make it work.
> Background is borderline too busy.
>
> Jack
> --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: PESO: First Daffy

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ann.
On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:06 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> My first daffodil bloomed today. Can you spot the itty-bitty bug?
>> Thought about cloning him, but I think that would be a violation of
>> the natural order. Or something like that.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7170277&size=lg
>>
>>
>>
> bug very clear -- adds, rather than detracts... like the daffy
> nice bokeh :)
>
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Re: PESO: First Daffy

[ann sanfedele]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>My first daffodil bloomed today. Can you spot the itty-bitty bug?  
>Thought about cloning him, but I think that would be a violation of  
>the natural order. Or something like that.
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7170277&size=lg
>
>  
>
bug very clear -- adds, rather than detracts... like the daffy
nice bokeh :)

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Re: PESO: First Daffy

[Jack Davis]

Wouldn't normally want the blossom this far to the right in the frame,
but the shape and line of both the leaf and stem make it work.
Background is borderline too busy.

Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Thought about cloning him, but I think that would be a violation of  
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Re: K10D is back, again

[Paul Stenquist]

4cm is huge. That's not on the order of matching up lenses, as with  
the K20D. Either there's a major mirror box problem that they're  
missing or the lens is severely out of whack. Is it out of whack when  
you manual focus as well? If so, it's probably the mirror box.
Paul
On Apr 15, 2008, at 7:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
> Initial test with the new DA 50 F2,8, still shows about a 4cm back
> focus at F2.8.
>
> So now what, send in the 50, the FA 100, back with the camera. Pentax
> said all i ok, and if i'm not happy, to do just that.,
>
> If so, do they "match up" the lenses like the K20D does.
>
> This is so bogus, i can see no why people get fed up and switch.
> Courior bills are going to be high on this.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM, David J Brooks  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Mr Purolator arrived about 5 minutes after i got back from my PM run.
>>
>>  I'll test it Tuesday.
>>
>>  There is a letter inside saying focus checked and is ok. If  
>> problem is
>>  still evident, to send in the lenses.
>>
>>  That will be an expensive courior bill. If i have to, i'll drive  
>> them in.
>>
>>  Dave
>>
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PESO: First Daffy

[Paul Stenquist]

My first daffodil bloomed today. Can you spot the itty-bitty bug?  
Thought about cloning him, but I think that would be a violation of  
the natural order. Or something like that.
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[Rick Womer]

Lovely photos.  I love Yurp.

Rick

--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery
> I decided to finally 
> sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through
> the Loire Valley a 
> couple of years ago.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[P. J. Alling]

These are just lovely.  Have I told you how very much I hate you?


Mark Roberts wrote:
> Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally 
> sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a 
> couple of years ago.
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[Allison Trueman]

Now I want to go back to France...

Allison

On Apr 15, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to  
> finally
> sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire  
> Valley a
> couple of years ago.
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> http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[Jack Davis]

Just discovered this post. All well seen and many rendered with a
creative pallet.
Very much taken with one of my favorite targets; "Old Farm Buildings".
Love it!
"Loire Fog and Trees" is striking.

Jack 


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Beautiful. Love the chateau reflected in the River Cher and many of
> the others as well.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Mark Roberts wrote:
> > 
> > >Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to
> finally 
> > >sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire
> Valley a 
> > >couple of years ago.
> > >
> > >http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > yum!
> > 
> > My fave is
> > http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_29.htm
> > 
> > followed closely by
> > 
> > http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_21.htm
> > 
> > despite the fact that you were not able to gather two little
> moppets to  
> > hold hands to walk into the frame for you :)
> > 
> > ann
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[Rick Womer]

"Yukons, Russets, Fingerlings?"

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos..."
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Re: PESO - We Need More Cat Photos

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Allison Trueman" 
Subject: Re: PESO - We Need More Cat Photos


> Patches is beautiful!
> 
> Now, since I like cats, I like this shot ;o) The softness of the shot  
> really helps to convey the softness of her fur.

I seem to trot this one out every year or so.
Anyway, this pictures shows how vicious cats can be.
 This is a picture of a cat blinding a dog that got to close.
Warning, this is a very graphic representation of what can happen when dogs 
and cats are allowed to be together.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/the_horror_of_cats_and_dogs.html

Don't worry, it's family friendly.

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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

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Beautiful. Love the chateau reflected in the River Cher and many of the others 
as well.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> >Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally 
> >sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a 
> >couple of years ago.
> >
> >http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> yum!
> 
> My fave is
> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_29.htm
> 
> followed closely by
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_21.htm
> 
> despite the fact that you were not able to gather two little moppets to  
> hold hands to walk into the frame for you :)
> 
> ann
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Re: PESO - We Need More Cat Photos

[Allison Trueman]

Patches is beautiful!

Now, since I like cats, I like this shot ;o) The softness of the shot  
really helps to convey the softness of her fur.

Allison


On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:41 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Allison, our newest (out of the closet) member has inspired me to make
> Mike Johnston happy by posting Yet Another Cat Photo.
>
> The more-or-less willing subject, who you've seen here many times is,
> Patches, who we just figured yesterday, is now either 19 or 20 years
> old (she's only been with me for about 13 years):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yumugc
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8_3dXa2bQI/Bp4/_drS1Fo47as/s1600-h/mar_05_08+003.jpg
>
> Please note the inclusion of the ~entire~ chin...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

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Mark Roberts wrote:

>Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally 
>sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a 
>couple of years ago.
>
>http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
>
>
>  
>
yum!

My fave is
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_29.htm

followed closely by

http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_21.htm

despite the fact that you were not able to gather two little moppets to  
hold hands to walk into the frame for you :)

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Re: K10D is back, again

[David J Brooks]

Initial test with the new DA 50 F2,8, still shows about a 4cm back
focus at F2.8.

So now what, send in the 50, the FA 100, back with the camera. Pentax
said all i ok, and if i'm not happy, to do just that.,

If so, do they "match up" the lenses like the K20D does.

This is so bogus, i can see no why people get fed up and switch.
Courior bills are going to be high on this.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mr Purolator arrived about 5 minutes after i got back from my PM run.
>
>  I'll test it Tuesday.
>
>  There is a letter inside saying focus checked and is ok. If problem is
>  still evident, to send in the lenses.
>
>  That will be an expensive courior bill. If i have to, i'll drive them in.
>
>  Dave
>
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Re: PESO: on the N train

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks much,  Christine!
I feel lucky to have gotten the subway one.  

Aside - The poultry shop was purchased by the shop owner whose coffee 
place is now where the Thursday store was
back in '71.   It was taken out my living room window.

best,
ann

Christine Aguila wrote:

>Ann:  I agree with you about the left crop.  A tighter crop on the left 
>makes the frame feel cramped, though I do appreciate the validity of 
>Godfrey's suggestion.  But the right side is pretty tight, and she's looking 
>to the left, & a tighter left crop chops off the graffiti making the left 
>side feel unfinished to me.  Godfrey's right about the repetition of twos. 
>The sign of the two people images between the two "couples" is fantastic. 
>Sounds like it was a really great assignment--must have been tons of fun. 
>Also, I have had a quick look-around on your site; the bw poultry shop photo 
>is a great favorite of mine.
>
>Great work here, Ann.  Big cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "ann sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  
>
>>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Nice Ann! I like it a lot. Perhaps a little crop off the left end
>>>dead space might tighten it up a touch. I like the repetition of twos
>>>and the differences between the twos. It's unfortunate that the left-
>>>most subject moved so much, but what the heck? :-)
>>>
>>>Good stuff!
>>>
>>>Godfrey
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Thanks, Godders!
>>
>>
>>the photographer was moving too :)  the "left most" was my main subject
>>for the gig... I totally lucked out
>>with the entire scenario... it was rush hour!  Shalley wanted a picture
>>of them on a subway. Click. that was it.
>>I disagree about the crop - I think I need that much space to the left...
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

[Doug Franklin]

P. J. Alling wrote:
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Some lovely work, Mark! I'm happy to be inspiration. ;-)

The "Chateau Moat" photo, loire_21, and "Loire Fog and Trees",  
loire_24, are my particular favorites in this set.

Godfrey


On Apr 15, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to  
> finally
> sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire  
> Valley a
> couple of years ago.
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
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Re: WEBBY AWARDS?

[Jack Davis]

Mark, my last post on this subject indicated I has registered and
voted.
I was initially skeptical. A basic learned response. If someone had
information to the contrary, my suspicions might have been allayed by
their advice.
Have you voted?

Jack
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[Brian Walters]

These are great.  Like Frank, I like 'Old Farm Building' and also the
Chateau reflections at the start of the gallery.  But my favourite is
'Chateau Chaumont Through Stained Glass'.





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> Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally 
> sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a 
> couple of years ago.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm
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Re: PESO - Cheesecake

[Christine Aguila]

Frank:  These shots Cheesecake & Cigarette Girl are great fun.  Yes, I see 
the similarity in portrait and woman, though I did read the other posts 1st 
before I looked, so I cheated a bit.  Excellent photos, Frank.  Really enjoy 
your work--oh, before I forget--about the photo the Look--when I first saw 
that shot my 1st thought was "so they let them read the paper while in a 
line-up."  I found his face quite spooky.  Cheers, Christine


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> http://tinyurl.com/4wl3dn
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> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASnGhLsd3I/B1g/rwIOV73JZ2g/s1600-h/apr_15_08+002.jpg
>
> This (and Cigarette Girl) were taken at a campy fundraiser for a local
> artist trying to raise money for an artistic odyssee.  Either that or
> I just helped pay for her vacation...
>
> Anyway, everyone had lots of fun, and there were some - er -
> interesting photo ops.
>
> Comments always welcome.
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally
>  sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a
>  couple of years ago.
>
>  http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm

Those are lovely, Mark!

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Re: PESO: on the N train

[Christine Aguila]

Ann:  I agree with you about the left crop.  A tighter crop on the left 
makes the frame feel cramped, though I do appreciate the validity of 
Godfrey's suggestion.  But the right side is pretty tight, and she's looking 
to the left, & a tighter left crop chops off the graffiti making the left 
side feel unfinished to me.  Godfrey's right about the repetition of twos. 
The sign of the two people images between the two "couples" is fantastic. 
Sounds like it was a really great assignment--must have been tons of fun. 
Also, I have had a quick look-around on your site; the bw poultry shop photo 
is a great favorite of mine.

Great work here, Ann.  Big cheers, Christine



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> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>>Nice Ann! I like it a lot. Perhaps a little crop off the left end
>>dead space might tighten it up a touch. I like the repetition of twos
>>and the differences between the twos. It's unfortunate that the left-
>>most subject moved so much, but what the heck? :-)
>>
>>Good stuff!
>>
>>Godfrey
>>
> Thanks, Godders!
>
>
> the photographer was moving too :)  the "left most" was my main subject
> for the gig... I totally lucked out
> with the entire scenario... it was rush hour!  Shalley wanted a picture
> of them on a subway. Click. that was it.
> I disagree about the crop - I think I need that much space to the left...
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Re: GESO: Loire Valley

[Cotty]

On 15/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally 
>sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a 
>couple of years ago.
>
>http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm

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GESO: Loire Valley

[Mark Roberts]

Inspired by Godfrey's excellent Isle of Man gallery I decided to finally 
sort through the photos from my bicycle trip through the Loire Valley a 
couple of years ago.

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Re: WEBBY AWARDS?

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Jack Davis wrote:
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> Smells like a NOKIA promotion.

And this is bad because...?

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Re: WEBBY AWARDS?

[Jack Davis]

Actually, I just registered and voted for the Pentax Photo Gallery.
Comment was that it is not leading with 9 comments. Woo Hoo(?)

Jack
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Re: PESO: on the N train

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Good shot. Nice "environmental touches." Excellent rendering. Reminds  
me of old times on the subway.
Paul
On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
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> although it turns out she kinda did want some of those...  She  
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> based on my gallery on line
> and had said she particularly liked my black and white stuff of Paris
> and the Scrabblers...
>
> It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the
> time frame...
> But I kinda liked this one:
>
> Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole
> world" on my site with this yet..
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/ 
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Re:PESO - Children! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

[Gaëtan Beauchamp]

Hello everyone! Here is some photos of my wife's grandchildren, Mateo  
and Adelie.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7161172
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7161160&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7161170&size=lg
Taken with a Pentax K20D, Pentax 100mm Macro lens.
Comments are welcome and appreciated.
Is there someone on the list who knows Pragua for photos?
Thank you all.
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Re: PESO - Cheesecake

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice rendering of a good upskirt:-).
Paul
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> http://tinyurl.com/4wl3dn
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASnGhLsd3I/B1g/ 
> rwIOV73JZ2g/s1600-h/apr_15_08+002.jpg
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> artist trying to raise money for an artistic odyssee.  Either that or
> I just helped pay for her vacation...
>
> Anyway, everyone had lots of fun, and there were some - er -
> interesting photo ops.
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> Comments always welcome.
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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Don' t I wish...

Jack Davis wrote:
> Hating tax day is what you get for making all that money selling your
> photos. 
>
> Jack
> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>   
>> I figured that was the point of the photo, however I couldn't come up
>>
>> with a flip remark about it.  (I'm a bit off my game today, tax day
>> you 
>> know).
>>
>> frank theriault wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>   
>>>   
 What I like is that she appears to be standing next to a portrait
 
>> of her.
>> 
 
 
>>> THANK YOU!!
>>>
>>> (sorry for the JCO-like caps, but ~that's~ what I like about the
>>>   
>> photo
>> 
>>> as well - but all anyone else seemed to look at was the freaking
>>> upside down potato box...)
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:26 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I figured that was the point of the photo, however I couldn't come up
>  with a flip remark about it.  (I'm a bit off my game today, tax day you
>  know).

Don't worry about it.  Unfortunately, the potato box really does
detract from it, IMHO. I mean, I like the photo, but the only way to
get rid of that eyesore would be to do something in PS that I don't
like doing, so I'm forced (or to be more precise, I'm forcing myself)
to live with it.

I was just funnin' with you guys (this response is for Jack, too, as I
see he's responded to the potato box thing, too) with my reply to der
Listmeister.

:-)

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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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Hating tax day is what you get for making all that money selling your
photos. 

Jack
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> I figured that was the point of the photo, however I couldn't come up
> 
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> you 
> know).
> 
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> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> 
> >
> > THANK YOU!!
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> > as well - but all anyone else seemed to look at was the freaking
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> >
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Re: WEBBY AWARDS?

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That's what I'd like to know.

Jack
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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No, I saw the picture and thought it looked like her. Thing was, I just
couldn't help being really clever..OK? ;-))

Jack
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Re: PESO: on the N train

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:38 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>  
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>>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/ 
>>Large
>>password :  dands
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>>
>
>Nice Ann! I like it a lot. Perhaps a little crop off the left end  
>dead space might tighten it up a touch. I like the repetition of twos  
>and the differences between the twos. It's unfortunate that the left- 
>most subject moved so much, but what the heck? :-)
>
>Good stuff!
>
>Godfrey
>
Thanks, Godders!


the photographer was moving too :)  the "left most" was my main subject 
for the gig... I totally lucked out
with the entire scenario... it was rush hour!  Shalley wanted a picture 
of them on a subway. Click. that was it.
I disagree about the crop - I think I need that much space to the left...

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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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I figured that was the point of the photo, however I couldn't come up 
with a flip remark about it.  (I'm a bit off my game today, tax day you 
know).

frank theriault wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> What I like is that she appears to be standing next to a portrait of her.
>> 
>
> THANK YOU!!
>
> (sorry for the JCO-like caps, but ~that's~ what I like about the photo
> as well - but all anyone else seemed to look at was the freaking
> upside down potato box...)
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Re: PESO - The Look

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whoa!
>
>  You nailed it all right.

Thanks!

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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

frank theriault wrote:
>  zAN5OmePMjs/s1600-h/apr_15_08+001.jpg>

Hmm. I like some things about this and find others distracting.

The woman and the picture on the wall are very much the relationship  
of the photo. Her insouciant pose and the strange contradiction of  
the garb and potato box tray just work.

The light is very flat, dead on casting hard shadows. That almost  
works although I'd like it more if there was just a little bit of  
modeling to the skin tones. The table edge jutting in from the the  
left at mid-thigh height is distracting. I see no good way to just  
crop it out ... maybe some artful cloning would work.

Good stuff. 

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Re: PESO: on the N train

[Cotty]

On 15/4/08, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the 
>time frame...
>But I kinda liked this one:
>
>Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole 
>world" on my site with this yet..
>
>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
>
>password :  dands

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Re: PESO - Snowboy

[Cotty]

On 15/4/08, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I wonder if your son still remembers me. If he does - please pass my 
>regards. If he does not, please remind him about me and pass my regards 
>thereafter ;-). I am a programmer, you know, I live in the world of 
>algorithms.

He barely looked up from his PowerBook, mumbled something - couldn't
possible tell what it was. He's a user you know, lives in a world of I's
and 0's.

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Re: PESO: on the N train

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:38 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/ 
> Large
> password :  dands

Nice Ann! I like it a lot. Perhaps a little crop off the left end  
dead space might tighten it up a touch. I like the repetition of twos  
and the differences between the twos. It's unfortunate that the left- 
most subject moved so much, but what the heck? :-)

Good stuff!

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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

>On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>What I like is that she appears to be standing next to a portrait of her.
>>
>>
>
>THANK YOU!!
>
>(sorry for the JCO-like caps, but ~that's~ what I like about the photo
>as well - but all anyone else seemed to look at was the freaking
>upside down potato box...)
>
>;-)
>
>cheers,
>frank
>  
>
I wonder what would happen if you flipped the shot horizonally? - maybe 
thats partly the reason the
wall photo was missed...  

I didn't notice the upsidedown writing , actually...  lol

ann


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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[P. J. Alling]

>
>  She was looking a bit tired by the end of the night...
Just like real life...


frank theriault wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I assume the potatoes are  a more politically correct product.  Nice
>>  shot.
>> 
>
> Well, I couldn't very well call it "Potato Girl" now, could I?
>
> ;-)
>
> Actually, I can't remember what she was giving away (no, not
> potatoes), but it was all part of a fundraiser that I went to on the
> weekend.  Lots of fun.  All the performers and staff were camping it
> up, with this (and another) young lady doing their part (with homemade
> costumes).  She was looking a bit tired by the end of the night...
>
> Thanks to everyone for the comments.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I like is that she appears to be standing next to a portrait of her.

THANK YOU!!

(sorry for the JCO-like caps, but ~that's~ what I like about the photo
as well - but all anyone else seemed to look at was the freaking
upside down potato box...)

;-)

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Re: PESO: on the N train

[ann sanfedele]

Boris Liberman wrote:

>Ann, this is yet another excellent shot from you - three couples, one 
>sitting, one printed on the wall and the last one standing.
>
>I should also mention that everyone who knows about PDML (mail) archives 
>now knows the pwd to your page.
>
>Boris
>


I know - and that's fine -  the subjects did not hire me to take 
pictures for them to hide in a drawer.. they actually saw
this one on the back of my camera while we were out and liked it - even 
fromt he chimp phase...
when I sent them the link to the gallery I mentioned I was sharing that 
photo with you guys, too.  The password
just keeps it from being all over the web , the way the rest of my site 
is...

I think some of the photos I've taken of them are for intended for a 
page on facebook, actually.

 Glad you like, Boris

ann





>ann sanfedele wrote:
>  
>
>>Did a photo shoot yesterday for a young lady who wanted to have photos 
>>of herself and her boyfriend
>>romping around NY - they are from Toronto  - not the "this is me in 
>>front of the Empire State" type -
>>although it turns out she kinda did want some of those...  She hired me 
>>based on my gallery on line
>>and had said she particularly liked my black and white stuff of Paris 
>>and the Scrabblers...
>>
>>It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the 
>>time frame...
>>But I kinda liked this one:
>>
>>Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole 
>>world" on my site with this yet..
>>
>>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
>>
>>ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>  
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Re: PESO: Creative Thinking

[Boris Liberman]

If you meant "thinking how to creatively replace C..n camera and lens 
with *proper* ;-) camera and lens", then it is a terrific shot. If not, 
it is still excellent indeed ;-).

Boris


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Szefi is a very good photographer (you can find her pictures on flickr)
> and we visited some friends at Sopron. On the way home I equipped my Porst
> f1.2/55mm and made a few shots with and of her :D The only thing I hate in
> her is that she doesn't want to change to Pentax :D
> http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/95508469
> 
> I think if the modell knows about photography then the photographer has a
> very easy job :D
> 
> Cheers,
> .timber
> 
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Re: PESO - The Look

[Boris Liberman]

Whoa!

You nailed it all right.

Boris

frank theriault wrote:
> Sitting at a coffeeshop, reading the paper:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3wqgyz
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SANNoRLsduI/B0Y/vJHuVCBAWPo/s1600-h/apr_14_08+002.jpg
> 
> Yes, I know, the paper's in focus, the face is out of focus.  You may
> certainly comment upon that, but you needn't point it out to me.  Any
> and all other comments are most welcome.
> 
> :-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: PESO: Shadowhat

[Boris Liberman]

You are enjoying the new camera and the new lens, aren't you, Sir William?

;-)

Boris

William Robb wrote:
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/shadowhat.html
> 
> Info: K20D, ISO100
> 70mm LTD, f/5.6, 1/500 sec.
> 
> Resized only, not cropped.
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> William Robb
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Re: PESO - Snowboy

[Boris Liberman]

I wonder if your son still remembers me. If he does - please pass my 
regards. If he does not, please remind him about me and pass my regards 
thereafter ;-). I am a programmer, you know, I live in the world of 
algorithms.

Wonderful shot with rather funny (like in "smile") contrast between 
apparently light clothing and the snow.

Boris


Cotty wrote:
> We had some snow for a while last week - about 2 inches, lasted exactly
> 8 hours from falling to melted and gone. That's England - you think it's
> cold and miserable here - and that's just the shopkeepers.
> 
> 
> 
> R-D1 + 28mm Ultron 1.9
> ISO400 1/320th @ f8
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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

[ann sanfedele]

The myths abound -  most sightings turn out to be of the pileated...
It would be lovely to think the ivory-bill has survived, but most are 
not optimistic

ann

Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote:

>now this will surely improve the woodpecker population .. hundreds of 
>hobby ornithologists with cameras running through the swamps, trying to 
>find a apparently shy bird ;-)
>
>  
>
>>There's a $10,000 reward for finding and photgraphing an
>>ivory-billed woodpecker:
>>
>>http://wikitravel.org/en/Buffalo_National_River#Bird_watching
>>http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0926-woodpecker.html
>>
>>Probably not easy; they're nearly extinct and live in swamps.
>>
>>  
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Cheesecake

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

>http://tinyurl.com/4wl3dn
>
>http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASnGhLsd3I/B1g/rwIOV73JZ2g/s1600-h/apr_15_08+002.jpg
>
>This (and Cigarette Girl) were taken at a campy fundraiser for a local
>artist trying to raise money for an artistic odyssee.  Either that or
>I just helped pay for her vacation...
>
>Anyway, everyone had lots of fun, and there were some - er -
>interesting photo ops.
>
>Comments always welcome.
>
>cheers,
>frank
>  
>

Um very interesting

too sharp, though
(ann ducks)

seriously - nice one!
ann


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Re: PESO: on the N train

[Boris Liberman]

Ann, this is yet another excellent shot from you - three couples, one 
sitting, one printed on the wall and the last one standing.

I should also mention that everyone who knows about PDML (mail) archives 
now knows the pwd to your page.

Boris

ann sanfedele wrote:
> Did a photo shoot yesterday for a young lady who wanted to have photos 
> of herself and her boyfriend
> romping around NY - they are from Toronto  - not the "this is me in 
> front of the Empire State" type -
> although it turns out she kinda did want some of those...  She hired me 
> based on my gallery on line
> and had said she particularly liked my black and white stuff of Paris 
> and the Scrabblers...
> 
> It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the 
> time frame...
> But I kinda liked this one:
> 
> Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole 
> world" on my site with this yet..
> 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
> 
> ann
> 
> 


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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

[Marcus A. Hofmann]

Am 15.04.2008 um 18:32 schrieb John Francis:

> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 04:07:38PM +0200, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote:
>> A quick google turned up this, which may be interesting for  
>> comparison:
>>
>> WLAN 802.11g: 54 Mbit/s = ~3,2 MB/s (21x)
>> WLAN 802.11n: 540 Mbit/s = ~37,5 MB/s (250x)
>
> Hmm.  540 = 54 x 10,  but 250x is not 21x x 10.
>
> At least one of those numbers is wrong :-)

No, the numbers are correct. The second figure is the netto data  
throughput which takes into consideration the protocol overhead, which  
is considerable with the wireless protocols.

Calculate the netto figures:

3,2 / 21 * 250 = 38 (~37,5)


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Re: PESO: on the N train

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:38 PM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Did a photo shoot yesterday for a young lady who wanted to have 
>> photos of herself and her boyfriend romping around NY - they are from 
>> Toronto - not the "this is me in front of the Empire State" type - 
>> although it turns out she kinda did want some of those... She hired 
>> me based on my gallery on line and had said she particularly liked my 
>> black and white stuff of Paris and the Scrabblers...
>>
>> It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given 
>> the time frame... But I kinda liked this one:
>> Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole 
>> world" on my site with this yet..
>>
>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
>> password : dands
>>
>> ann
>
>
>Love it!  Terrific transit shot (from he who takes many transit shots).
>
>cheers,
>frank
>  
>
==

thanks, babe - I figured I'd get SOME kind of reaction from _you_ :) 
 someone has to continue the "Theraultian blur"
tradition!

xo,
ann

>  
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[Doug Brewer]

What I like is that she appears to be standing next to a portrait of her.

frank theriault wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/3lzrn4
> 
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASiYRLsd2I/B1Y/zAN5OmePMjs/s1600-h/apr_15_08+001.jpg
> 
> "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos..."
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 

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PESO - Cheesecake

[frank theriault]

http://tinyurl.com/4wl3dn

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASnGhLsd3I/B1g/rwIOV73JZ2g/s1600-h/apr_15_08+002.jpg

This (and Cigarette Girl) were taken at a campy fundraiser for a local
artist trying to raise money for an artistic odyssee.  Either that or
I just helped pay for her vacation...

Anyway, everyone had lots of fun, and there were some - er -
interesting photo ops.

Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO: on the N train

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:38 PM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did a photo shoot yesterday for a young lady who wanted to have photos
>  of herself and her boyfriend
>  romping around NY - they are from Toronto  - not the "this is me in
>  front of the Empire State" type -
>  although it turns out she kinda did want some of those...  She hired me
>  based on my gallery on line
>  and had said she particularly liked my black and white stuff of Paris
>  and the Scrabblers...
>
>  It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the
>  time frame...
>  But I kinda liked this one:
>
>  Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole
>  world" on my site with this yet..
>
>  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large
>
>  password :  dands
>
>  ann

Love it!  Terrific transit shot (from he who takes many transit shots).

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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I assume the potatoes are  a more politically correct product.  Nice
>  shot.

Well, I couldn't very well call it "Potato Girl" now, could I?

;-)

Actually, I can't remember what she was giving away (no, not
potatoes), but it was all part of a fundraiser that I went to on the
weekend.  Lots of fun.  All the performers and staff were camping it
up, with this (and another) young lady doing their part (with homemade
costumes).  She was looking a bit tired by the end of the night...

Thanks to everyone for the comments.

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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

[Mark Roberts]

Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote:
> 
>> There's a $10,000 reward for finding and photgraphing an
>> ivory-billed woodpecker:
>>
>> http://wikitravel.org/en/Buffalo_National_River#Bird_watching
>> http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0926-woodpecker.html
>>
>> Probably not easy; they're nearly extinct and live in swamps.
>>
 > now this will surely improve the woodpecker population .. hundreds of
 > hobby ornithologists with cameras running through the swamps, trying
 > to find a apparently shy bird ;-)

And possibly extinct. Even if there are any left, given how long it's 
been since the last well-documented sighting, I suspect that you'll have 
to spend enough time stalking it that $10,000 will work out to be 
something less than minimum wage. ;-)


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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

[Doug Brewer]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
>>... Never saw an Ivory-Billed Woodpecker, though.
>>
>>At least, none that I recall.
> 
> 
> Why did I just get the picture in my head of Homer Simpson smacking  
> his lips and saying, "Mmmm ... tastes like chicken!" ?
> 
> G
> 

[burp]

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PESO: on the N train

[ann sanfedele]

Did a photo shoot yesterday for a young lady who wanted to have photos 
of herself and her boyfriend
romping around NY - they are from Toronto  - not the "this is me in 
front of the Empire State" type -
although it turns out she kinda did want some of those...  She hired me 
based on my gallery on line
and had said she particularly liked my black and white stuff of Paris 
and the Scrabblers...

It was a difficult job - some stuff they wanted was undoable given the 
time frame...
But I kinda liked this one:

Sorry about the password on this one but I don't want to go "whole 
world" on my site with this yet..

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/4727672_Y6UZw/1/279950274_sL4gM/Large

password :  dands

ann


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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[Steve Desjardins]

I assume the potatoes are  a more politically correct product.  Nice
shot.


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>>> "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/15/2008 8:56 AM >>>
http://tinyurl.com/3lzrn4 

http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASiYRLsd2I/B1Y/zAN5OmePMjs/s1600-h/apr_15_08+001.jpg


"Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos..."

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 04:07:38PM +0200, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote:
> A quick google turned up this, which may be interesting for comparison:
>
> WLAN 802.11g: 54 Mbit/s = ~3,2 MB/s (21x)
> WLAN 802.11n: 540 Mbit/s = ~37,5 MB/s (250x)

Hmm.  540 = 54 x 10,  but 250x is not 21x x 10.

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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

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On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> ... Never saw an Ivory-Billed Woodpecker, though.
>
> At least, none that I recall.

Why did I just get the picture in my head of Homer Simpson smacking  
his lips and saying, "Mmmm ... tastes like chicken!" ?

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Re: Might See Penguins at GFM

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Reminds me of a scene in Casablanca, (modified to fit the situation)...

Random Californian Tourist: Dude, why the h*** did Canada buy Arizona?
Random Canadian Official: Our economy,. we bought Arizona for the waters Eh.
Random Californian Tourist: Dude, waters? What waters? We're in the 
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Random Canadian Official: We were misinformed Eh.


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Re: WEBBY AWARDS?

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Jack Davis wrote:
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> Smells like a NOKIA promotion.
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OK, I'll bite. What's the conspiracy?

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Re: Might See Penguins at GFM

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> I guess if Victorian physics could "prove" the bumble bee couldn't fly...

Next you'll be telling us wrestling is fake.

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Re: PESO: Shadowhat

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Good angle and textures.

Dave

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>  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/shadowhat.html
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>  Info: K20D, ISO100
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Re: PESO: Savannah morning

[David J Brooks]

Nice soft light, but a bit flat, and a bit dark, on my monitor. It
does not appear cluttered to me.

Dave

PS re calibrated today.

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> Zipping back across the country again, from LA to
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>  I'm ambivalent about this one:  I like the light and
>  the repeating pattern of the porches.  On the other
>  hand, it seems a bit cluttered.
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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

[Doug Brewer]

I grew up a little over an hour from the Buffalo, and spent innumerable 
weekends on the Ponca-to-Pruitt run in all manner of weather. It's a 
treasure.

Matter of fact, the PDML as we know it can be tied to a trip I made to 
the Buffalo River with the girl who is now my wife. We spotted a Snowy 
Egret out there and silently floated our canoe as near as we could so I 
could take a photo with my little drugstore P&S camera.

Getting the prints back and discovering that the wide angle lens of the 
camera meant a tiny Egret and a lot of environment led me to thinking 
I'd like to get a an SLR and longer lens. Not long after that I bought a 
Practica in a pawn shop. It came with 50mm, 28mm and 135mm lenses, and I 
began my photographic journey with that kit, adding a 20mm and a 200mm 
along the way before moving to a Minolta X370 and then to my first 
Pentax, a ZX-5.

And here we are.

Never saw an Ivory-Billed Woodpecker, though.

At least, none that I recall.


Sandy Harris wrote:
> There's a $10,000 reward for finding and photgraphing an
> ivory-billed woodpecker:
> 
> http://wikitravel.org/en/Buffalo_National_River#Bird_watching
> http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0926-woodpecker.html
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> Probably not easy; they're nearly extinct and live in swamps.
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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Other than the box, it's a classic look. Nicely rendered.
Paul
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> http://tinyurl.com/3lzrn4
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> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASiYRLsd2I/B1Y/ 
> zAN5OmePMjs/s1600-h/apr_15_08+001.jpg
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> "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos..."
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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The shot could do with a little more texture in the blacks.  Nice 
conversion otherwise.

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> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASiYRLsd2I/B1Y/zAN5OmePMjs/s1600-h/apr_15_08+001.jpg
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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She sells fries along with the cigarettes"

frank theriault wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Potatoes? ;)
>>
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> New Florida Potatoes...
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WEBBY AWARDS?

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Have you noticed the above prompt on the Pentax Artist's page?
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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

[P. J. Alling]

Yep, and the spinning air turbines, (wind mills), will do the woodpecker 
a lot of good when it flies through one...

Sandy Harris wrote:
> There's a $10,000 reward for finding and photgraphing an
> ivory-billed woodpecker:
>
> http://wikitravel.org/en/Buffalo_National_River#Bird_watching
> http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0926-woodpecker.html
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

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It is pretty slow.  To take advantage of a fast bus in a camera you need 
something like 20 MB/sec.

Doug Franklin wrote:
> mike wilson wrote:
>   
>> http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=103902
>> 
>
> That card's listed as a "Class 4" device.  The SDCard.com web site 
> indicates this means that the manufacturer guarantees at least 4 MB/sec 
> or higher write speed, which sounds pretty slow.  How does that compare 
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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Tuberous Scotch Chips

Jack
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> > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Potatoes? ;)
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Re: Ozark bird photography anyone?

[Andreas Pfotenhauer]

now this will surely improve the woodpecker population .. hundreds of 
hobby ornithologists with cameras running through the swamps, trying to 
find a apparently shy bird ;-)

> There's a $10,000 reward for finding and photgraphing an
> ivory-billed woodpecker:
>
> http://wikitravel.org/en/Buffalo_National_River#Bird_watching
> http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0926-woodpecker.html
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> Probably not easy; they're nearly extinct and live in swamps.
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Re: Might See Penguins at GFM

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I guess if Victorian physics could "prove" the bumble bee couldn't fly...

Cotty wrote:
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

[Marcus A. Hofmann]

Am 15.04.2008 um 16:44 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

> On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote:
>>>
>>> I have yet so find or hear of someone who
>>> actually ever had problems with a Sandisk Extreme III.
>
> I've had two of Extreme III SD cards fail, although not in the
> storage media. The lock button fell off of one, and the little
> plastic struts between the contacts disintegrated on the other.

I actually wrote this because I totally was expecting someone here to  
come forward with something like that. I am glad to hear that these  
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

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On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote:
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>>  I have yet so find or hear of someone who
>> actually ever had problems with a Sandisk Extreme III.

I've had two of Extreme III SD cards fail, although not in the  
storage media. The lock button fell off of one, and the little  
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

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A quick google turned up this, which may be interesting for comparison:

USB 1.1: 12 Mbit/s = 1,5 MB/s (10x)
USB 2.0: 480 Mbit/s = 60 MB/s (400x)
Bluetooth: 3 Mbit/s = 375 kB/s (2.5x)
WLAN 802.11b: 11 Mbit/s = ~0,7 MB/s (4.7x)
WLAN 802.11g: 54 Mbit/s = ~3,2 MB/s (21x)
WLAN 802.11n: 540 Mbit/s = ~37,5 MB/s (250x)


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>> That card's listed as a "Class 4" device.  The SDCard.com web site
>> indicates this means that the manufacturer guarantees at least 4 MB/
>> sec
>> or higher write speed, which sounds pretty slow.  How does that
>> compare
>> to the "X speed" notation, i.e., 150X, 133X, 60X, etc.?
>
> The speed notation is a factor of the speed of a single-speed CD
> writer. It is used for other media types like SD cards as well. A
> speed of 1x means 150KB/sec. The SD 2.0 specification (SDHC) also
> defines speed-classes. Class 4 devices must deliver read/write speeds
> of at least 4 MB/sec (~25x).
>
> In comparison to state-of-the-art technology, a class 4 device is
> really _slow_. It will most probably slow down any modern digital
> camera.
>
> A modern, fast card delivers read/write speeds around or exceeding 20
> MB/sec (133x/150x). The SanDisk Extreme III that I always use are
> guaranteed to deliver a minimum of 20 MB/sec. They also come with a
> lifetime guarantee, although I have yet so find or hear of someone who
> actually ever had problems with a Sandisk Extreme III. Panasonic SDHC
> cards are said to be fast and reliable, too, but they are also a
> little more expensive.
>
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Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

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> That card's listed as a "Class 4" device.  The SDCard.com web site
> indicates this means that the manufacturer guarantees at least 4 MB/ 
> sec
> or higher write speed, which sounds pretty slow.  How does that  
> compare
> to the "X speed" notation, i.e., 150X, 133X, 60X, etc.?

The speed notation is a factor of the speed of a single-speed CD  
writer. It is used for other media types like SD cards as well. A  
speed of 1x means 150KB/sec. The SD 2.0 specification (SDHC) also  
defines speed-classes. Class 4 devices must deliver read/write speeds  
of at least 4 MB/sec (~25x).

In comparison to state-of-the-art technology, a class 4 device is  
really _slow_. It will most probably slow down any modern digital  
camera.

A modern, fast card delivers read/write speeds around or exceeding 20  
MB/sec (133x/150x). The SanDisk Extreme III that I always use are  
guaranteed to deliver a minimum of 20 MB/sec. They also come with a  
lifetime guarantee, although I have yet so find or hear of someone who  
actually ever had problems with a Sandisk Extreme III. Panasonic SDHC  
cards are said to be fast and reliable, too, but they are also a  
little more expensive.


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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

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> 
> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/15 Tue PM 01:10:25 GMT
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> 
> Potatoes? ;)

Idaho cheroots

> 
> Jack
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Re: Might See Penguins at GFM

[Jack Davis]

Amazing!!

Jack
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >  
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> That guy looked familiar...
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Re: Might See Penguins at GFM

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  

That guy looked familiar...

:-)

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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[Jack Davis]

Potatoes? ;)

Jack
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>
http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SASiYRLsd2I/B1Y/zAN5OmePMjs/s1600-h/apr_15_08+001.jpg
> 
> "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos..."
> 
> Comments always welcome.
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> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Cigarette Girl

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Potatoes? ;)
>

New Florida Potatoes...

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Re: Might See Penguins at GFM

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

EXCELLENT! thanks,

Godfrey

On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:49 AM, Cotty wrote:
> Well, you never know
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Re: PESO: Plotting His Escape

[Jack Davis]

Ya caught Pooh in his famous "Oh bother" expression. 
Do you have a toy store on your property? ;)

Jack
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Re: PESO: Plotting His Escape

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Paul Stenquist
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> Spotted this while walking in the yard this evening.
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7167149&size=lg

Har!

Good one, Paul.

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Re: PESO: Shadowhat

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/new/shadowhat.html
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>  Info: K20D, ISO100
>  70mm LTD, f/5.6, 1/500 sec.
>
>  Resized only, not cropped.
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Wonderful composition, love the textures.

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Re: Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/15 Tue PM 12:13:14 GMT
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> Subject: Re: SDHC Bargain for UK Pentaxisti
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> > http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=103902
> 
> That card's listed as a "Class 4" device.  The SDCard.com web site 
> indicates this means that the manufacturer guarantees at least 4 MB/sec 
> or higher write speed, which sounds pretty slow.  How does that compare 
> to the "X speed" notation, i.e., 150X, 133X, 60X, etc.?

Don't know.  It says on the packaging - "Minimum 6Mb/second" which is faster 
than any I have at the moment.  Seems to take about 2-3 seconds to write a file 
with them.  There are 8 & 16Gb cards there, too.  That's a few too many eggs in 
the basket for me.


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Ozark bird photography anyone?

[Sandy Harris]

There's a $10,000 reward for finding and photgraphing an
ivory-billed woodpecker:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Buffalo_National_River#Bird_watching
http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0926-woodpecker.html

Probably not easy; they're nearly extinct and live in swamps.

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