Re: Uncommon Asahiflex 2

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Bob W a écrit :
> I suspect it is not an original plate. The text looks much heavier
> than on original Pentaxes.
>   
I had also thought about here, the plate is easily removable.
Only the winner will be able to loosen and check if the back does not 
the original name.


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A mildly amusing sign

[Bob W]

http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg

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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[AlunFoto]

2008/5/21 Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Underexposing also gives more ISO noise,
> so this makes it a trade off situation between noise or fringing.
> Life ain't easy. The best thing is often to avoid the highlights.

Life ain't easy. :-)

In my opinion, the most salient point is as you say, to avoid the
highlights. Or perhaps even better, to contemplate the psychologial
implications of an unbendable urge to photograph backlit twigs at
f/2.8. I'd say the disposition of Fotozone looks unhealthy... :-)

It is also worth noting that Fotozone have no mention of even
considering the same properties for comparable lenses from Nikon and
Canon. I've checked. And the sample photos does not include scenes
where PF may emerge. Until the next test of a similar lens from the
big two, I guess it's better to think that this property is something
hitherto unknown to Fotozone, and that a DA* attached to a K10D from
Pentax just happened to be the first lens/camera combo they made such
considerations for. If they ignore PF testing for other brands in the
future, however, they'll pretty much be as the ornithologist would
say, pooping in their own nest. :-)

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Re: Most recent issues with K10D, help needed

[AlunFoto]

2008/5/19 Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Here are two most recent issues that I encountered with my K10D.
>
> 1. I've AF confirmation beep enabled. Very often, almost always, when
> I walk around with K10D and A 50/1.2 attached, it keeps beeping all
> the time. It usually happens when I set the lens to infinity. What
> helps is to put my hand on top of the hood so as to block the light.

What's the contrast like on full opening for this lens?
Could it be that the AF system is challenged by the optical properties
of this lens?
Come to think of it, does any brand at all have an autofocussing f/1.2 SLR lens?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that perhaps your camera is
operating outside its intended scope rather than malfuctioning.

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Re: Most recent issues with K10D, help needed

[David Savage]

At 04:52 PM 22/05/2008, AlunFoto wrote:
> > 1. I've AF confirmation beep enabled. Very often, almost always, when
> > I walk around with K10D and A 50/1.2 attached, it keeps beeping all
> > the time. It usually happens when I set the lens to infinity. What
> > helps is to put my hand on top of the hood so as to block the light.
>
>What's the contrast like on full opening for this lens?
>Could it be that the AF system is challenged by the optical properties
>of this lens?
>Come to think of it, does any brand at all have an autofocussing 
>f/1.2 SLR lens?


Canon has one.

By all accounts its a an overprices pig.

Cheers,

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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[Thibouille]

I know I should get a 645 but in Europe, used prices aren't as nice as
in the US :(

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Re: PESO: Park Bench

[David J Brooks]

I like the contrast between the heavy shadows and the bright fore
ground. The two lite branches frame it well.

Or, basically what Bob W said.:-)

Dave

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> Another shot taken while visiting my daughter in the San Francisco Bay area.
> Actually this wasn't taken in a Park, but on the manicured grounds of a local 
> seed company.
> I allow that it's cutsie and contrived, but the background and total setting 
> was the reason for my deciding to post it.
> Was hand held and won't stand a lot of fine detail scrutiny.
> Let me know your reaction. Thanks!
>
> Jack
>
> K10D, smc80~320@ 80mm, f/10, 1/180, ISO 200.
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=305
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Re: GESO: Fascinated with crops

[David J Brooks]

Very good and a nice subject.

http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP07546_large.html

My fav

Dave

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I haven't been posting anything but a very few PESOs as of several
> months. Finally, I seem to have hmmm been coming out of my photographic
> slow down.
>
> Along with arrival of K 50/1.2 we had discovered some very good looking
> ;-) fields not far from where we live. So, here is a small gallery about
> these crops.
>
> Whenever it says K-lens, it means K 50/1.2 and whenever it says A-lens,
> it means A 50/1.2 that came thereafter.
>
> http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/index.html
>
> Have your brutal and honest say.
>
> Boris
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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[Tim Øsleby]

I like to do most of my postprocesing at the raw files.
I'm an Elements user, and making good masks there is often a lot of trouble.
At least with the techniqueses I know.

So I'd prefer to ballanse the light when recorded, if posible.

MaritimTim

2008/5/22 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I do it all the time. A simple mask is all that's needed in most
> cases. Sometimes not even that.
> Paul
> On May 21, 2008, at 7:19 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>> Sorry Paul. It's just not practical.
>>
>> William Robb
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters
>>
>>
>>> Yes. Flash filters are extinct.
>>> -- Original message --
>>> From: "Ken Waller"

 Couldn't you achieve the same effect in post processing if you
 shoot RAW?

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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[Tim Øsleby]

Should have said: I'm a Lightroom and Elements user.
Don't know how important that is though ;-)

MaritimTim

2008/5/22 Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I like to do most of my postprocesing at the raw files.
> I'm an Elements user, and making good masks there is often a lot of trouble.
> At least with the techniqueses I know.
>
> So I'd prefer to ballanse the light when recorded, if posible.
>
> MaritimTim
>
> 2008/5/22 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I do it all the time. A simple mask is all that's needed in most
>> cases. Sometimes not even that.
>> Paul
>> On May 21, 2008, at 7:19 PM, William Robb wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Paul. It's just not practical.
>>>
>>> William Robb
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters
>>>
>>>
 Yes. Flash filters are extinct.
 -- Original message --
 From: "Ken Waller"
>
> Couldn't you achieve the same effect in post processing if you
> shoot RAW?
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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[Paul Stenquist]

I've used flash filters. I once used them quite frequently, but I do  
find them unnecessary, even for wedding receptions and ceremonies. Of  
the last two receptions I shot, one was in a restaurant with tungsten  
lighting. The warmer background combined with the cooler flash looked  
great. The other was in a large banquet hall with a combination of  
window light and tungsten. Couldn't match both in any case, and a  
very minor bit of tweaking again produced nice results.

Room 1 (rather dark with tungsten lights. Went for warm look,  
supplementing light with flash off the ceiling, no filters)

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321295&size=lg

Room 2 (A mix of tungsten and window light, piano player was in  
shadow so hit her with flash through a white softbox, no filters)

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6363403&size=lg

I do keep a gold reflector and a couple of gels in my event kit, and  
I'd use one or the other if my initial shots showed a need. Hasn't  
happened yet.

BTW Bill, you can't really do JCO mode. We all know you're a pussycat  
at heart:-). In any case, it's wasted on me.

Paul


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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist"
> Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters
>
>
>> No need to be sorry, Bill. With decent PhotoShop skills, lighting
>> balance is simple.
>
>>
>>> Sorry Paul. It's just not practical.
>
>
> 
> As Mark mentioned, it can be done on a one off picture with layers  
> and masks, and hopefully you
> don't have a lot of flash fall off to deal with or you can toos the  
> entire idea out the window.
> I wouldn't want to try to do an entire wedding that way.
> It's far easier to just filter the flash to close to the ambient  
> light and use the white balance
> to dial in the colour for both flash and ambient.
> Back before white balance, I used to do a lot of colourbacking  
> (filter on flash to match the
> ambient, filter on camera to balance both). Being able to use white  
> balance only removes the
> need to filter at the lens. You will still get much nicer results  
> if you filter the flash.
> 
>
> William Robb
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Re: PESO: Park Bench

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Dave!

Jack


--- On Thu, 5/22/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Park Bench
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, May 22, 2008, 3:55 AM
> I like the contrast between the heavy shadows and the bright
> fore
> ground. The two lite branches frame it well.
> 
> Or, basically what Bob W said.:-)
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Jack Davis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another shot taken while visiting my daughter in the
> San Francisco Bay area.
> > Actually this wasn't taken in a Park, but on the
> manicured grounds of a local seed company.
> > I allow that it's cutsie and contrived, but the
> background and total setting was the reason for my deciding
> to post it.
> > Was hand held and won't stand a lot of fine detail
> scrutiny.
> > Let me know your reaction. Thanks!
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > K10D, smc80~320@ 80mm, f/10, 1/180, ISO 200.
> >
> >
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=305
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PESO - A Night in Yorkville

[frank theriault]

Taken in Toronto's upscale shopping, dining and nightclub area, Yorkville:

http://tinyurl.com/4pbjdg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLFjfBRrQI/CDs/1uKVE8VhFkg/s1600-h/may_20_08+015.jpg

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Re: PESO: Broom Grass

[Rebekah]

thanks guys :)

rg2

On 5/21/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Rebekah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, I returned to Magnolia Gardens at the beginning of the month, but
> > it seems I arrived between flowering seasons, so little was in bloom.
> > I spent most of the time playing around with some macro filters.
> > Anyways, I did catch a picture of some grass that I ended up liking a
> > good bit.
> >
> > Taken with a Pentax *ist D
> > 135mm 1:3.5 and +2 macro filter
> >
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/Magnolia55/photo?authkey=YEuulz7FMg4#5202848819133106082
>
> Nice conversion!
>
> You caught this from a very interesting angle.  I like it!
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[frank theriault]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg

I heard if one pees on the third rail of an electric railway or
subway, they'll get electricuted (I've also heard that's an urban myth
with no basis in fact).  So if one really does piss on the indicated
platforms and electricutes one's self, will those who put up that sign
be liable?

Hilarious sign!

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Re: PESO: Park Bench

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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another shot taken while visiting my daughter in the San Francisco Bay area.
> Actually this wasn't taken in a Park, but on the manicured grounds of a local 
> seed company.
> I allow that it's cutsie and contrived, but the background and total setting 
> was the reason for my deciding to post it.
> Was hand held and won't stand a lot of fine detail scrutiny.
> Let me know your reaction. Thanks!

My reaction is that it's gorgeous!  The lighting is stunning, I love
the symmetry of the bench and flowers, puncuated by the bright green
clumps of leaves randomly set above.  The saturated green grass is
pretty cool, too.

I love it!

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Re: PESO -- Red and Green

[frank theriault]

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:58 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone has shot something like this at least once...
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20redandgreen.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 limited
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

Unlike Jack, I rather like the yellow apples top left.  ;-)

I normally like narrow dof with copious amounts of oof stuff, but I
wish the foreground were a bit sharper - either by way of slightly
wider dof or by focusing on the apples nearest the camera.

Other than that (which I don't find particularly offensive, just a
minor nit), I like it!  It may be a cliche, but it's a good one,
well-executed.

cheers,
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The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[Rick Womer]

I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with my
K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable as
those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.

So I repeated an experiment I had performed with the
PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar shade,
one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the same
ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the near
target and photographing it led to a perfectly exposed
near target and underexposed distant target (which is
as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target led
to a perfectly exposed distant target and overexposed
near target, even though the two targets had the same
positions in the frame in the two situations.  This
told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
from the lens in calculating flash exposure.

Last evening I performed the experiment with the K10D
and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused on,
the near target was always properly exposed and the
distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
this camera-flash combination does not use distance
information in its flash exposure calculations.

It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax 540
flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the camera
or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is unable
to use the distance information?

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Re: GESO: Fascinated with crops

[frank theriault]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I haven't been posting anything but a very few PESOs as of several
> months. Finally, I seem to have hmmm been coming out of my photographic
> slow down.
>
> Along with arrival of K 50/1.2 we had discovered some very good looking
> ;-) fields not far from where we live. So, here is a small gallery about
> these crops.
>
> Whenever it says K-lens, it means K 50/1.2 and whenever it says A-lens,
> it means A 50/1.2 that came thereafter.
>
> http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/index.html
>
> Have your brutal and honest say.

Too many stunning shots to choose a favourite - they're all that good.

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Re: PESO: Park Bench

[Jack Davis]

Sincerely appreciated comments.
Thanks, Frank!

Jack


--- On Thu, 5/22/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Park Bench
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, May 22, 2008, 6:24 AM
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Jack Davis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another shot taken while visiting my daughter in the
> San Francisco Bay area.
> > Actually this wasn't taken in a Park, but on the
> manicured grounds of a local seed company.
> > I allow that it's cutsie and contrived, but the
> background and total setting was the reason for my deciding
> to post it.
> > Was hand held and won't stand a lot of fine detail
> scrutiny.
> > Let me know your reaction. Thanks!
> 
> My reaction is that it's gorgeous!  The lighting is
> stunning, I love
> the symmetry of the bench and flowers, puncuated by the
> bright green
> clumps of leaves randomly set above.  The saturated green
> grass is
> pretty cool, too.
> 
> I love it!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "AlunFoto"
Subject: Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

In my opinion, the most salient point is as you say, to avoid the
highlights. Or perhaps even better, to contemplate the psychologial
implications of an unbendable urge to photograph backlit twigs at
f/2.8. I'd say the disposition of Fotozone looks unhealthy... :-)

It is also worth noting that Fotozone have no mention of even
considering the same properties for comparable lenses from Nikon and
Canon. I've checked. And the sample photos does not include scenes
where PF may emerge. Until the next test of a similar lens from the
big two, I guess it's better to think that this property is something
hitherto unknown to Fotozone, and that a DA* attached to a K10D from
Pentax just happened to be the first lens/camera combo they made such
considerations for. If they ignore PF testing for other brands in the
future, however, they'll pretty much be as the ornithologist would
say, pooping in their own nest. :-)


Or, they could just test Pentax lenses with backlit twigs and say "look purple 
fringing", and 
not test the big two lenses that way and not mention it.

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Re: PESO: Bark

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking, and thanks for your comment, Frank.

Dan M

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I came across this tree in the Garden of the Birr Castle Desmesne,
>> Ireland, and found the patterns in the bark interesting:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248645
>
> That's beautiful!  Love those two vertical lines on the left!  Nicely 
> rendered.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - A Night in Yorkville

[David J Brooks]

It does not look like the Yorkville I remember from 1967.:-)

Seems to dark Frank.

Dave

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> Taken in Toronto's upscale shopping, dining and nightclub area, Yorkville:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4pbjdg
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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[Charles Robinson]

On May 21, 2008, at 15:21, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
> I was actually doubting between the 12-24 and the 16-14. I really  
> liked
> the ultra wide 18 to 24mm perspective on film. The 16-45 would give  
> me the
> angle of view of a 24mm lens and a convenient range. The 12-24 would  
> be
> wider, but more specialised. Choices choices...
>

In an ideal world, I'd have both!  But I finally opted for the 16-50  
and it hasn't left the camera much since I got it.

There is still time to get the 12-24... it could still happen.  :-)

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Re: PESO - A Night in Yorkville

[frank theriault]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:17 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It does not look like the Yorkville I remember from 1967.:-)
>
> Seems to dark Frank.

It's supposed to be dark, it's night time!

;-)

Yeah, Yorkville's changed a bit since Gordon Lightfoot and Joni
Mitchell played the coffeehouses there, eh?

;-)

Thanks for looking, Dave.

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Re: GESO: Fascinated with crops

[ann sanfedele]

Boris Liberman wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I haven't been posting anything but a very few PESOs as of several 
>months. Finally, I seem to have hmmm been coming out of my photographic 
>slow down.
>
>...(snip)
>
>http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/index.html
>
>Have your brutal and honest say.
>
>Boris
>
>  
>
Boris - I started with clicking on the most recent post in my mail box 
which was Godder's comment on
this one

http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP08267_large.html

That is the 4th - readinga cross and then down on the index file)
I pretty much concur that it is the "best" whatever that means :)

and I like one of the closeups as well -  the 6th one (1st in second 
row) and the vertical closeup
which is the 12th
6 is here
http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP08270_large.html

12 is here
http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP08357_large.html

The 14th works as it is, although it isnt'a s interseting to me 
personally as the others I mentioned.

13 needs a bit of a crop (ohoh, pun alert!)  and 15 - well the light is 
great but the background is too busy
some cropping here .

I think those could tell the whole story...

here is the problem for most of them - the out of focus but not blurred 
out enough backgrounds on most
and the very washed out rim of sky beyond .

I'd prune this collection to 5 or 6 and then I think it would tell the 
story with a greater impact.

Well - ya said to be brutal, my dear! :)

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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[AlunFoto]

Bill,
Do you, by any chance, see any guano at Fotozone from where you're standing? :-)

Jostein

2008/5/22 William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "AlunFoto"
> Subject: Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images
>
> In my opinion, the most salient point is as you say, to avoid the
> highlights. Or perhaps even better, to contemplate the psychologial
> implications of an unbendable urge to photograph backlit twigs at
> f/2.8. I'd say the disposition of Fotozone looks unhealthy... :-)
>
> It is also worth noting that Fotozone have no mention of even
> considering the same properties for comparable lenses from Nikon and
> Canon. I've checked. And the sample photos does not include scenes
> where PF may emerge. Until the next test of a similar lens from the
> big two, I guess it's better to think that this property is something
> hitherto unknown to Fotozone, and that a DA* attached to a K10D from
> Pentax just happened to be the first lens/camera combo they made such
> considerations for. If they ignore PF testing for other brands in the
> future, however, they'll pretty much be as the ornithologist would
> say, pooping in their own nest. :-)
>
>
> Or, they could just test Pentax lenses with backlit twigs and say "look 
> purple fringing", and
> not test the big two lenses that way and not mention it.
>
> William Robb
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Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:02 PM
Subject: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart


> Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
> 
> Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200, +1.3, ISO 1600 
> on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.
> 
> Comments solicited & appreciated.

Thats a really nice picture Ken.

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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[AlunFoto]

Rick,
The *istD was the last camera to support the old analogue TTL. For TTL
flash with K10D you need a P-TTL compatible flash.

Jostein

2008/5/22 Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with my
> K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable as
> those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
> ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.
>
> So I repeated an experiment I had performed with the
> PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar shade,
> one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the same
> ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the near
> target and photographing it led to a perfectly exposed
> near target and underexposed distant target (which is
> as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target led
> to a perfectly exposed distant target and overexposed
> near target, even though the two targets had the same
> positions in the frame in the two situations.  This
> told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
> from the lens in calculating flash exposure.
>
> Last evening I performed the experiment with the K10D
> and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused on,
> the near target was always properly exposed and the
> distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
> this camera-flash combination does not use distance
> information in its flash exposure calculations.
>
> It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax 540
> flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the camera
> or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is unable
> to use the distance information?
>
> Rick
>
>
> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[AlunFoto]

Okay, foot in mouth here. The Sigma is of course P-TTL compatible. Sorry.

May I suggest you try a different setup. What happens if you remove
the closer object? Will the exposure come out right for the distant
object then?

If so, I guess what happens is that the pre-flash decides that
burn-out protection takes precedence over focus distance.

Jostein

2008/5/22 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Rick,
> The *istD was the last camera to support the old analogue TTL. For TTL
> flash with K10D you need a P-TTL compatible flash.
>
> Jostein
>
> 2008/5/22 Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with my
>> K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable as
>> those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
>> ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.
>>
>> So I repeated an experiment I had performed with the
>> PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar shade,
>> one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the same
>> ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the near
>> target and photographing it led to a perfectly exposed
>> near target and underexposed distant target (which is
>> as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target led
>> to a perfectly exposed distant target and overexposed
>> near target, even though the two targets had the same
>> positions in the frame in the two situations.  This
>> told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
>> from the lens in calculating flash exposure.
>>
>> Last evening I performed the experiment with the K10D
>> and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused on,
>> the near target was always properly exposed and the
>> distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
>> this camera-flash combination does not use distance
>> information in its flash exposure calculations.
>>
>> It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax 540
>> flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the camera
>> or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is unable
>> to use the distance information?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[Adam Maas]

Actually, that's not the case, the *istDS2 was the last camera from
Pentax to support plain TTL (IIRC it used the PZ-era Digital TTL spec
rather than the LX-era Analog TTL), the Samsung GX-1S was the last
production camera to support it (It lasted longer than its sibling,
the DS2).

-Adam

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick,
> The *istD was the last camera to support the old analogue TTL. For TTL
> flash with K10D you need a P-TTL compatible flash.
>
> Jostein
>
> 2008/5/22 Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with my
>> K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable as
>> those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
>> ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.
>>
>> So I repeated an experiment I had performed with the
>> PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar shade,
>> one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the same
>> ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the near
>> target and photographing it led to a perfectly exposed
>> near target and underexposed distant target (which is
>> as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target led
>> to a perfectly exposed distant target and overexposed
>> near target, even though the two targets had the same
>> positions in the frame in the two situations.  This
>> told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
>> from the lens in calculating flash exposure.
>>
>> Last evening I performed the experiment with the K10D
>> and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused on,
>> the near target was always properly exposed and the
>> distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
>> this camera-flash combination does not use distance
>> information in its flash exposure calculations.
>>
>> It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax 540
>> flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the camera
>> or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is unable
>> to use the distance information?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Not the usual Bleeding Heart

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

From: "Ken Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> Taken with K20D, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A*, f7.1 @ 1/200, +1.3,  
> ISO 1600
> on Bogen 3221 tripod with Bogen mini gear head.


Nice work!

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Re: KatzEye again...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Antti-Pekka Virjonen"
Subject: RE: KatzEye again...


>> Thanks for the help, but you know how very weak I am.

>
> I got my screen in the following configuration:
>
> Prism Type: Katz Eye Plus Split Prism w/Microprism Collar
> OptiBrite Treatment: Yes
> Pentax AF Area Brackets: Yes
> Grid/Crop Lines: One Quarter Grid Lines
>
> I cannot comment how useful the OptiBrite Treatment is, but nonetheless
> the screen works good in dim light. I would need to have two bodies to
> do any comparison with the original.

Mine is on order. I left off the AF area brackets for fear of getting too many 
lines on the 
screen, otherwise I ordered what you ordered. With luck it will be here in a 
couple of weeks.

William Robb


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Re: PESO - Hot Tea

[frank theriault]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple of things about this image are distracting to me - FWIW the cup
> kinda blends in with the things around it & the thingy in the LRH corner
> pulls my eyes away from the cup.
>
> You did however capture the HOT aspect of the cup!
>

Thanks Ken, Rebekah and Christian for commenting!

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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[Tim Øsleby]

Pooping in you own nest? Stupid thing to do.
I prefer pooping in the neighbours well.

MaritimTim

2008/5/22 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/5/21 Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Underexposing also gives more ISO noise,
>> so this makes it a trade off situation between noise or fringing.
>> Life ain't easy. The best thing is often to avoid the highlights.
>
> Life ain't easy. :-)
>
> In my opinion, the most salient point is as you say, to avoid the
> highlights. Or perhaps even better, to contemplate the psychologial
> implications of an unbendable urge to photograph backlit twigs at
> f/2.8. I'd say the disposition of Fotozone looks unhealthy... :-)
>
> It is also worth noting that Fotozone have no mention of even
> considering the same properties for comparable lenses from Nikon and
> Canon. I've checked. And the sample photos does not include scenes
> where PF may emerge. Until the next test of a similar lens from the
> big two, I guess it's better to think that this property is something
> hitherto unknown to Fotozone, and that a DA* attached to a K10D from
> Pentax just happened to be the first lens/camera combo they made such
> considerations for. If they ignore PF testing for other brands in the
> future, however, they'll pretty much be as the ornithologist would
> say, pooping in their own nest. :-)
>
> Jostein
>
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Re: PESO - A Night in Yorkville

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:25 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:17 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It does not look like the Yorkville I remember from 1967.:-)
>>
>> Seems to dark Frank.
>
> It's supposed to be dark, it's night time!

Oh. I'm in bed by then.LOL


>
> ;-)
>
> Yeah, Yorkville's changed a bit since Gordon Lightfoot and Joni
> Mitchell played the coffeehouses there, eh?

Yes it sure is.

Dave
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks for looking, Dave.
>
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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[Paul Sorenson]

Just taking a WAG here...what metering pattern were you using...matrix 
or center weighted?  Is it possible matrix metering was compensating for 
the closer target being over exposed?

-p

Rick Womer wrote:
> I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with my
> K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable as
> those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
> ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.
> 
> So I repeated an experiment I had performed with the
> PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar shade,
> one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the same
> ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the near
> target and photographing it led to a perfectly exposed
> near target and underexposed distant target (which is
> as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target led
> to a perfectly exposed distant target and overexposed
> near target, even though the two targets had the same
> positions in the frame in the two situations.  This
> told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
> from the lens in calculating flash exposure.
> 
> Last evening I performed the experiment with the K10D
> and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused on,
> the near target was always properly exposed and the
> distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
> this camera-flash combination does not use distance
> information in its flash exposure calculations.
> 
> It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax 540
> flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the camera
> or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is unable
> to use the distance information?
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

>On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg
>>
>>
>
>I heard if one pees on the third rail of an electric railway or
>subway, they'll get electricuted (I've also heard that's an urban myth
>with no basis in fact).  So if one really does piss on the indicated
>platforms and electricutes one's self, will those who put up that sign
>be liable?
>
>Hilarious sign!
>
>cheers,
>frank
>  
>
what frank said!
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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[Tim Øsleby]

Photonet don't load here. Happens every now and then BTW. So I cant
see the pics. I'll have another look later.

But I do have one more question. What's the purpose of gold
reflectors? Giving the subject a tan? :-)
Could it be useful for balancing flash light with tungstein light?

MritimTim

2008/5/22 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've used flash filters. I once used them quite frequently, but I do
> find them unnecessary, even for wedding receptions and ceremonies. Of
> the last two receptions I shot, one was in a restaurant with tungsten
> lighting. The warmer background combined with the cooler flash looked
> great. The other was in a large banquet hall with a combination of
> window light and tungsten. Couldn't match both in any case, and a
> very minor bit of tweaking again produced nice results.
>
> Room 1 (rather dark with tungsten lights. Went for warm look,
> supplementing light with flash off the ceiling, no filters)
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321295&size=lg
>
> Room 2 (A mix of tungsten and window light, piano player was in
> shadow so hit her with flash through a white softbox, no filters)
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6363403&size=lg
>
> I do keep a gold reflector and a couple of gels in my event kit, and
> I'd use one or the other if my initial shots showed a need. Hasn't
> happened yet.
>
> BTW Bill, you can't really do JCO mode. We all know you're a pussycat
> at heart:-). In any case, it's wasted on me.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On May 21, 2008, at 8:16 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Paul Stenquist"
>> Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters
>>
>>
>>> No need to be sorry, Bill. With decent PhotoShop skills, lighting
>>> balance is simple.
>>
>>>
 Sorry Paul. It's just not practical.
>>
>>
>> 
>> As Mark mentioned, it can be done on a one off picture with layers
>> and masks, and hopefully you
>> don't have a lot of flash fall off to deal with or you can toos the
>> entire idea out the window.
>> I wouldn't want to try to do an entire wedding that way.
>> It's far easier to just filter the flash to close to the ambient
>> light and use the white balance
>> to dial in the colour for both flash and ambient.
>> Back before white balance, I used to do a lot of colourbacking
>> (filter on flash to match the
>> ambient, filter on camera to balance both). Being able to use white
>> balance only removes the
>> need to filter at the lens. You will still get much nicer results
>> if you filter the flash.
>> 
>>
>> William Robb
>>
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[frank theriault]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> frank theriault wrote:
>
>>On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I heard if one pees on the third rail of an electric railway or
>>subway, they'll get electricuted (I've also heard that's an urban myth
>>with no basis in fact).  So if one really does piss on the indicated
>>platforms and electricutes one's self, will those who put up that sign
>>be liable?
>>
>>Hilarious sign!
>>
>>cheers,
>>frank
>>
>>
> what frank said!

Well, perhaps what I said, but with proper spelling (I believe that
would be "electrocuted")...

:-)

cheers,
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Peso When one finds the need to put stuff in a bottle

[David J Brooks]

Cory posted a shot a few weeks ago with some pop top lids in a bottle.

It took me some time, but i found this shot i took and gave to a
Labatts beer rep in 2004.

http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5203249942188778978

Pretty sure its a 5 gallon demi bottle filled with blue caps. Took a
number of years. I think, there
might be 2-3 Molson caps in there, but thats about it.

IIRC it was the D2H and 35-70 f2.8 and 285 flash.

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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[Mat Maessen]

On 5/22/08, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, that's not the case, the *istDS2 was the last camera from
>  Pentax to support plain TTL (IIRC it used the PZ-era Digital TTL spec
>  rather than the LX-era Analog TTL), the Samsung GX-1S was the last
>  production camera to support it (It lasted longer than its sibling,
>  the DS2).

The DS2 supports both analog and digital TTL. My Metz 45CT-4 with the
analog TTL adapter works in TTL mode with it. The analog TTL support
was always kind of limited (limited to ISO 200 and 400 I think?) and
I've gotten inconsistent exposures with it.

I figure one of these years I'll get a real P-TTL flash.

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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[Steve Desjardins]

They tested this one on Mythbusters.  The stream breaks up into droplets
before it makes contact with the rail so there is not continuous
electrical path. 

And yes, it's my favorite TV show.  ;-)

>>> "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/22/2008 9:26 AM >>>
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg 

I heard if one pees on the third rail of an electric railway or
subway, they'll get electricuted (I've also heard that's an urban myth
with no basis in fact).  So if one really does piss on the indicated
platforms and electricutes one's self, will those who put up that sign
be liable?

Hilarious sign!

cheers,
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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[Paul Stenquist]

The gold reflector warms the light a bit. It won't balance it totally  
with tungsten, but it helps a bit.

The old Honeywell potato masher flashes came with a set of snap on  
filters that included a tungsten match. Way back thirty years or so  
when I used those flashes, I'd use the tungsten filter from time to  
time. I remember using it shooting drag racing at night under  
tungsten lights with my speed graphic. (I was going for long  
exposures of funny cars on the starting line with flames coming out  
of the headers.) The flash provided a bit of fill, but the filter  
gave away two f-stops, which limited the flash's usefulness.
Paul
On May 22, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> Photonet don't load here. Happens every now and then BTW. So I cant
> see the pics. I'll have another look later.
>
> But I do have one more question. What's the purpose of gold
> reflectors? Giving the subject a tan? :-)
> Could it be useful for balancing flash light with tungstein light?
>
> MritimTim
>
> 2008/5/22 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I've used flash filters. I once used them quite frequently, but I do
>> find them unnecessary, even for wedding receptions and ceremonies. Of
>> the last two receptions I shot, one was in a restaurant with tungsten
>> lighting. The warmer background combined with the cooler flash looked
>> great. The other was in a large banquet hall with a combination of
>> window light and tungsten. Couldn't match both in any case, and a
>> very minor bit of tweaking again produced nice results.
>>
>> Room 1 (rather dark with tungsten lights. Went for warm look,
>> supplementing light with flash off the ceiling, no filters)
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321295&size=lg
>>
>> Room 2 (A mix of tungsten and window light, piano player was in
>> shadow so hit her with flash through a white softbox, no filters)
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6363403&size=lg
>>
>> I do keep a gold reflector and a couple of gels in my event kit, and
>> I'd use one or the other if my initial shots showed a need. Hasn't
>> happened yet.
>>
>> BTW Bill, you can't really do JCO mode. We all know you're a pussycat
>> at heart:-). In any case, it's wasted on me.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2008, at 8:16 PM, William Robb wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Paul Stenquist"
>>> Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters
>>>
>>>
 No need to be sorry, Bill. With decent PhotoShop skills, lighting
 balance is simple.
>>>

> Sorry Paul. It's just not practical.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> As Mark mentioned, it can be done on a one off picture with layers
>>> and masks, and hopefully you
>>> don't have a lot of flash fall off to deal with or you can toos the
>>> entire idea out the window.
>>> I wouldn't want to try to do an entire wedding that way.
>>> It's far easier to just filter the flash to close to the ambient
>>> light and use the white balance
>>> to dial in the colour for both flash and ambient.
>>> Back before white balance, I used to do a lot of colourbacking
>>> (filter on flash to match the
>>> ambient, filter on camera to balance both). Being able to use white
>>> balance only removes the
>>> need to filter at the lens. You will still get much nicer results
>>> if you filter the flash.
>>> 
>>>
>>> William Robb
>>>
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[frank theriault]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They tested this one on Mythbusters.  The stream breaks up into droplets
> before it makes contact with the rail so there is not continuous
> electrical path.
>
> And yes, it's my favorite TV show.  ;-)

Well, I thought as much.  Not only is there the fact that there's no
complete stream, but if one's standing on the platform, wouldn't they
be insulated from the ground?  Where would the complete circuit be?

And, I like that show as well (although I've only seen it a couple of
times).  Loved the episode about jumping in a plummetting elevator
just before hitting ground...

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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

[Rick Womer]

I tried matrix, center-weighted, and spot.  Same
result.

Rick

--- Paul Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just taking a WAG here...what metering pattern were
> you using...matrix 
> or center weighted?  Is it possible matrix metering
> was compensating for 
> the closer target being over exposed?
> 
> -p
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> > I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with
> my
> > K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable
> as
> > those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
> > ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.
> > 
> > So I repeated an experiment I had performed with
> the
> > PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar
> shade,
> > one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the
> same
> > ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the
> near
> > target and photographing it led to a perfectly
> exposed
> > near target and underexposed distant target (which
> is
> > as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target
> led
> > to a perfectly exposed distant target and
> overexposed
> > near target, even though the two targets had the
> same
> > positions in the frame in the two situations. 
> This
> > told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
> > from the lens in calculating flash exposure.
> > 
> > Last evening I performed the experiment with the
> K10D
> > and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused
> on,
> > the near target was always properly exposed and
> the
> > distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
> > this camera-flash combination does not use
> distance
> > information in its flash exposure calculations.
> > 
> > It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax
> 540
> > flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the
> camera
> > or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is
> unable
> > to use the distance information?
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[Scott Loveless]

Steve Desjardins wrote:
> They tested this one on Mythbusters.  The stream breaks up into droplets
> before it makes contact with the rail so there is not continuous
> electrical path. 
> 
The transformer for an electric fence is designed for high voltage and 
low amperage.  It's painful but it won't typically injure someone.  If 
you're brave (stupid) enough you can grab one and see how long you can 
stand to hold on.  I know.  I've done it.

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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[Ken Waller]

Hope the platforms are low

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>
> http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg
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Re: Peso When one finds the need to put stuff in a bottle

[Jack Davis]

Well shot, unique, decorative piece. ;)

Jack


--- On Thu, 5/22/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Peso When one finds the need to put stuff in a bottle
> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, May 22, 2008, 10:11 AM
> Cory posted a shot a few weeks ago with some pop top lids in
> a bottle.
> 
> It took me some time, but i found this shot i took and gave
> to a
> Labatts beer rep in 2004.
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5203249942188778978
> 
> Pretty sure its a 5 gallon demi bottle filled with blue
> caps. Took a
> number of years. I think, there
> might be 2-3 Molson caps in there, but thats about it.
> 
> IIRC it was the D2H and 35-70 f2.8 and 285 flash.
> 
> Dave
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A tough one for SR

[Bob W]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7415394.stm


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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Thu, 22 May 2008 16:18:01 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On May 21, 2008, at 15:21, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
>> I was actually doubting between the 12-24 and the 16-14. I really
>> liked
>> the ultra wide 18 to 24mm perspective on film. The 16-45 would give
>> me the
>> angle of view of a 24mm lens and a convenient range. The 12-24 would
>> be
>> wider, but more specialised. Choices choices...
>>
>
> In an ideal world, I'd have both!  But I finally opted for the 16-50
> and it hasn't left the camera much since I got it.

My agony is self induced; I'm just not willing to spend that much money on  
a hobby.

> There is still time to get the 12-24... it could still happen.  :-)

Sounds like you're halfway there ;-)

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Re: PESO - A Night in Yorkville

[Ken Waller]

Also seems more like a hotel hallway than a street.

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Subject: Re: PESO - A Night in Yorkville


> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:17 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> It does not look like the Yorkville I remember from 1967.:-)
>>
>> Seems to dark Frank.
>
> It's supposed to be dark, it's night time!
>
> ;-)
>
> Yeah, Yorkville's changed a bit since Gordon Lightfoot and Joni
> Mitchell played the coffeehouses there, eh?
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks for looking, Dave.
>
> cheers,
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Re: GESO: Orange Peel

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Wed, 21 May 2008 23:35:45 +0200 schreef Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Thanks, I proposed sunset (I'm a sucker for late-afternoon light), but in  
class early morning light was suggested to her. Could have saved me some  
sleep as well. I see a re-shoot coming, I'll post results.

Thanks for all feedback.

Regards, Lucas

> OK, so she's the art director, which makes a lot of difference - you
> have to do as she says. But given her target market I still don't
> think an indoor chair outdoors is really going to appeal very much to
> them.
>
> Anway, I'd say you need more sun, more light and warmth. Most of the
> pictures feel rather cool to me, even those shot in direct sunlight. I
> am almost the baby-boomer age, and I have friends & relatives in that
> age group, and I find it hard to imagine these pictures selling
> anything to them. Picture number 2, for example, has the chair in
> bright sun, but the building is in shadow and the cool of that
> predominates. The composition needs to be much tighter, with better
> use of the building, and to be more effective the whole thing needs to
> be in the sun, probably the late evening sun with naturally saturated
> colours. Picture 3 is kind of getting there, but still the cool of the
> background shadows kills it.
>
> Have a look at other publications that are aiming at the same audience
> and see what techniques they use. In particular it's worth remembering
> Terence Donovan's (or possibly David Bailey's) well-worn phrase "No
> client ever complained about a picture being too effing warm".
>
> Bob
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Lucas Rijnders
>> Sent: 21 May 2008 21:43
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: GESO: Orange Peel
>>
>> Op Tue, 20 May 2008 23:33:51 +0200 schreef Bob W
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> > it's difficult to say whether these are successful or not without
>> > knowing more about the brief. In most of them the chair seems lost
>>
>> She has to try to sell Artifort to a new audience. She is
>> aiming at second
>> homes abroad of recently retired couples with a lot of money.
>> What we call
>> the baby-boomers, the generation born just after the second world
> war.
>>
>> Abroad for Dutch couples would be France, the mediterranean
>> of eastern
>> Europe, mainly Hungary.
>>
>> > against the background. 4 and 8 are better than the rest,
>> but I don't
>> > really see the point of setting the chair in that context. If
> she's
>> > studying interior design why has she put an indoor chair outdoors?
>> >
>> > Also, the pictures don't show much evidence of having been
> 'styled'.
>> > Typically when I think of a stylist being involved in a shoot she
> is
>> > normally there to make the food or clothes look right
>> within the scene
>> > that the art director has directed and the photographer has
>> shot. For
>> > interior design I imagine the stylist is making sure that
>> the details
>> > of the set are correct - for instance, that the curtains are
> hanging
>> > properly, the chairs are at the correct angle, the mirrors
>> are clean,
>> > and so on. However, this is not my world, so maybe I'm completely
>> > wrong.
>>
>> I think her role is more what you describe as Art Director.
>> Though it is
>> not my world either.
>>
>> Thankf for commenting, I appreciate it.
>>
>> Regards, Lucas
>>
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> >> Behalf Of Lucas Rijnders
>> >> Sent: 20 May 2008 21:39
>> >> To: PDML
>> >> Subject: GESO: Orange Peel
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I am currently working on a fun project: a friend of mine is
>> >> studying for
>> >> interior designer. Her current assignment is 'Photo styling'
>> >> where, among
>> >> other things, she has to style six photo's (four product shots,
> two
>> >
>> >> supporting shots) and have them taken by an unpaid photographer.
>> >>
>> >> For some reason, 'unpaid photographer' made her think of me.
>> >>
>> >> At http:\\www.jenny.dds.nl/lucas/orange/peel/index.html are
>> >> our first
>> >> results. (Six of) These shots should be useable for use in a
>> >> trade show
>> >> booth and in magazines.
>> >>
>> >> As this is rather new for both of us, all feedback is very
>> >> welcome. If the
>> >> weather permits, we will do a second shooting session next week.
>> >>
>> >> Oh: technical details: All shots taken with a K10D and an
>> >> F50/1,7. One of
>> >> the shots is a HDRI composite, made of three base images.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> --
>> >> Ciao, Lucas
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Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Thu, 22 May 2008 12:15:59 +0200 schreef Thibouille  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I know I should get a 645 but in Europe, used prices aren't as nice as
> in the US :(
>
> I'd really like to get hold of one however.

I bought mine (with 120 holder & lens) in the US through ebay under  
€200,-. The 150/3,5 and 45/2,8 are affordable as well, even in Europe.

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Re: A tough one for SR

[Steve Desjardins]

An amazing sequence.

>>> "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/22/2008 2:16 PM >>>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7415394.stm 


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Re: PESO - A Night in Yorkville

[frank theriault]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also seems more like a hotel hallway than a street.

I think that you and I must stay at different types of hotels.

But thanks for looking!

;-)

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645 web sites

[Scott Loveless]

Hey, gang!

Does anyone know of a site similar to Bojidar's or Stan's for the 645? 
I've looked around a bit and am assuming that it doesn't exist.  But if 
you know of one I'd love a link.

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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[John Mustarde]

...as for psychological considerations, there is also
the unbendable urge to consider any shortfalls of
Pentax equipment as unfair testing, biased
German/French/American/Tralfamadorian testers, bad
sample, or oh-poor-me Pentax doesn't never gets a fair
shake criticism.  To demean pruple fringing as a
problem that only occurs for the poor photog who shoots
backlit twigs is to miss the point - purple fringing is
well known in digital sensor testing - check
Dpreview.com for many examples- so lack of mention for
Canon and Nikon would indicate, duh, a lack of that
problem on the lens/camera combos tested.  

I love Pentax, but long ago gave up the notion that
they have the "best lenses on planet urth."  Whilst
Pentax has many fine lenses and cameras, it is sad that
they have a bad habit of falling short when there is no
need to fall short, i.e., newly designed expensive
cameras and lenses such as the K20 and DA* 200.

But Pentax is not alone in lens shortfalls - consider
how many recent DA-type lenses of all manufacturers
(with reduced image circle) suffer from severe light
falloff in the corners.  What's with that?  They have a
smaller area to cover and can't make a design to cover
it without significant (1 stop +) falloff? 


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PESOx4: My trip at Miskolc :D

[Timber]

Hi list!

I was at Miskolc (a hungarian town) to meet some guys from FotoRace (a 
hungarian photosharing site) and here are a few shots from the trip:

http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483432
This waterfall is near Miskolc, at Lillafured. Quite famous in Hungary.

http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483425
We rented a boat :D It was fun

http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483426
It's a bug's life :D
He's a damn good fotographer... I am so jelaous of his talent! :P

http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483427
A little play with DOF.

There are more in the galery, feel free to browse :D
C&C always welcomed :D

Cheers,
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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[AlunFoto]

Hey John,

Apologies for winding you up. It was just a poor attempt at poking fun
of the situation. IMHO, Fotozone is *relatively* thorough in their
tests and less unreliable than many. A lack of mention of PF in tests
of lenses from the Big Two is either because Fotozone just started
testing for PF, or because they're biased. I can't think they could be
particularly in disfavour of Pentax, though. Just more in favour of
whoever has the higher market share, I guess. After all, owners of
those brands would be the higher portion of their readers. And I also
think the jury is still out as to their bias. Now that they've raised
the issue of PF, it would do everyone good if they continued to
discuss this property for all brands. Just one sentence remarking that
they didn't find any would be infinitely more clarifying than no
mention at all, as it is today.

I agree with you that PF is very real. I disagree with you in thinking
that current lack of mention in tests of other than Pentax is proof
that this is nonexistent with other brands.

If, at the end of the day, some of your real keepers (for other
reasons) show PF, then it's time to walk the walk through the post
processing. With the DA*, you'll have an easier job than with the FA*
200. I'm not at all sure that your raw files would be better with a
different brand of DSLR.

Best,
Jostein

2008/5/22 John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ...as for psychological considerations, there is also
> the unbendable urge to consider any shortfalls of
> Pentax equipment as unfair testing, biased
> German/French/American/Tralfamadorian testers, bad
> sample, or oh-poor-me Pentax doesn't never gets a fair
> shake criticism.  To demean pruple fringing as a
> problem that only occurs for the poor photog who shoots
> backlit twigs is to miss the point - purple fringing is
> well known in digital sensor testing - check
> Dpreview.com for many examples- so lack of mention for
> Canon and Nikon would indicate, duh, a lack of that
> problem on the lens/camera combos tested.
>
> I love Pentax, but long ago gave up the notion that
> they have the "best lenses on planet urth."  Whilst
> Pentax has many fine lenses and cameras, it is sad that
> they have a bad habit of falling short when there is no
> need to fall short, i.e., newly designed expensive
> cameras and lenses such as the K20 and DA* 200.
>
> But Pentax is not alone in lens shortfalls - consider
> how many recent DA-type lenses of all manufacturers
> (with reduced image circle) suffer from severe light
> falloff in the corners.  What's with that?  They have a
> smaller area to cover and can't make a design to cover
> it without significant (1 stop +) falloff?
>
>
> .
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Re: 645 web sites

[AlunFoto]

2008/5/22 Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hey, gang!
>
> Does anyone know of a site similar to Bojidar's or Stan's for the 645?
> I've looked around a bit and am assuming that it doesn't exist.  But if
> you know of one I'd love a link.

Hey Scott,

How about making one? :-)

Jostein

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Re: A tough one for SR

[Charles Robinson]

On May 22, 2008, at 13:16, Bob W wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7415394.stm
>

Wow.

That is cool and sad all wrapped up together.

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Re: PESO: Bark

[David J Brooks]

Great eye there Daniel.

Love the swirls in betwixhed the lines.

Dave

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> I came across this tree in the Garden of the Birr Castle Desmesne,
> Ireland, and found the patterns in the bark interesting:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248645
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[Charles Robinson]

On May 22, 2008, at 2:23, Bob W wrote:

>
> http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg
>

I love it!

Too bad you only had (apparently) your phone with you

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Re: A mildly amusing sign

[Mark Roberts]

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_222b.html

Dear Cecil:

Are there any known instances of winos, derelicts and others possessing 
unreliable bladders meeting their Maker while peeing on the third 
("hot") rail from a subway or elevated train platform? --Impatient on 
the Howard line, Chicago

Dear Impatient:

Not in Chicago. But I did turn up one instance in New York City, ever 
the pacesetter in this regard.

Marshall Houta's Where Death Delights contains the sad story of one 
Joseph Patrick O'Malley, a man with two unfortunate habits: heavy 
drinking and wandering through subway tunnels.

One morning, O'Malley's mangled body was found in a tunnel 50 yards from 
the nearest station. He had apparently been struck and killed by a train.

But an autopsy turned up another cause: "The burns on the head of the 
penis and on the thumb and forefinger were obviously electrical 
burnsThe stream of urine had come into contact with the 600 volts of 
the third rail. The current had coursed up the stream to cause the burns 
on his body as the electricity entered it.

"In all probability, he was dead from electrocution before the train 
ever hit his body."

Others have their doubts, however.

The combination of water and electricity is notoriously volatile--so 
much so that there might be a built-in safety factor, i.e., the shock 
would be great enough to knock you down. This would spoil your aim and 
cut off the current before the electricity could do its lethal work on 
your heart muscles.

In any case the experience would not be pleasant. So take a tip from 
your Uncle Cecil: play it cool, stay in school, and watch were you're 
spreading those vital fluids.

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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images


> Pooping in you own nest? Stupid thing to do.
> I prefer pooping in the neighbours well.

I prefer tossing maggot infested carcases over their walls.

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Re: Peso When one finds the need to put stuff in a bottle

[Mike Hamilton]

On 22-May-08, at 11:11 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> It took me some time, but i found this shot i took and gave to a
> Labatts beer rep in 2004.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/ 
> photo#5203249942188778978
>
> Pretty sure its a 5 gallon demi bottle filled with blue caps. Took a
> number of years. I think, there
> might be 2-3 Molson caps in there, but thats about it.
>
>

That's a lot of bad beer caps!!  ;)

Mike

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Re: 645 web sites

[Scott Loveless]

AlunFoto wrote:
> 2008/5/22 Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hey, gang!
>>
>> Does anyone know of a site similar to Bojidar's or Stan's for the 645?
>> I've looked around a bit and am assuming that it doesn't exist.  But if
>> you know of one I'd love a link.
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> How about making one? :-)
> 
I saw that one coming a few miles away.  Guess I ought to get to work. 
Right after this beer.  Probably.

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Re: PESO: Bark

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Dave!

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:17 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great eye there Daniel.
>
> Love the swirls in betwixhed the lines.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I came across this tree in the Garden of the Birr Castle Desmesne,
>> Ireland, and found the patterns in the bark interesting:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248645
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Fwd: Pentax 645 system site???

[Stan Halpin]

Scott - from an earlier discussion of this question...

I thought I had some discussions of 645 lenses etc. stashed away but  
haven't found anything yet. If I find them I will forward to you to  
help you get started on your project...

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Pedro Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: December 17, 2005 3:25:17 PM CST
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Pentax 645 system site???
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm
>
> Take care.
>
> Pedro Oliveira
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 11:38
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site???
>
> On 2005-12-17, at 01:10, Pedro Oliveira wrote:
>
>> The only site I found concerning the Pentax 645 is this one:
>>
>> http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/p645/index.html
>>
>> The only problem is that it is...in Japanese. But you can find
>> interesting information there.
>>
>> Hope it helps.
>
> Thanks! Seems to be the most complete 645 site so far :-) In links to
> other pages I found one site of Japanese photographer who regularly
> uses 645. Especially interesting is overview of his works during past
> 5 years:
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?
> lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.takeuchitoshinobu.jp%2fhisory%
> 2findex.htm
> In 2005 we find: "The "CANON calendar spreading/displaying LANDSCAPE
> ground" for "The CANON salon" - isn't that ironic and fun? ;-)
>
>
> --
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> Sylwek
>
>
>
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[David Savage]

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Re: Fwd: Pentax 645 system site???

[Scott Loveless]

Thanks, Stan!  Much appreciated.

Stan Halpin wrote:
> Scott - from an earlier discussion of this question...
> 
> I thought I had some discussions of 645 lenses etc. stashed away but  
> haven't found anything yet. If I find them I will forward to you to  
> help you get started on your project...
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> From: "Pedro Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: December 17, 2005 3:25:17 PM CST
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: RE: Pentax 645 system site???
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Pedro Oliveira
>>
>> -Mensagem original-
>> De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 11:38
>> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site???
>>
>> On 2005-12-17, at 01:10, Pedro Oliveira wrote:
>>
>>> The only site I found concerning the Pentax 645 is this one:
>>>
>>> http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/p645/index.html
>>>
>>> The only problem is that it is...in Japanese. But you can find
>>> interesting information there.
>>>
>>> Hope it helps.
>> Thanks! Seems to be the most complete 645 site so far :-) In links to
>> other pages I found one site of Japanese photographer who regularly
>> uses 645. Especially interesting is overview of his works during past
>> 5 years:
>> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?
>> lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.takeuchitoshinobu.jp%2fhisory%
>> 2findex.htm
>> In 2005 we find: "The "CANON calendar spreading/displaying LANDSCAPE
>> ground" for "The CANON salon" - isn't that ironic and fun? ;-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Sylwek
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Øsleby"
Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters


> Photonet don't load here. Happens every now and then BTW. So I cant
> see the pics. I'll have another look later.
>
> But I do have one more question. What's the purpose of gold
> reflectors? Giving the subject a tan? :-)
> Could it be useful for balancing flash light with tungstein light?
>

I built a big reflector, close to 4'x6' (1.3x2 meters) many years back. I built 
the frame out of 
copper plumbing pipe and my wife made a reflector fabric to fit out of gold 
lamé fabric, which 
happily, was black on the reverse side. I had a big honkin' warm relflector to 
warm up my 
glamour portraits, and a gobo, all built into one piece of equipment.

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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[Scott Loveless]

William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tim Øsleby"
> Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters
> 
> 
>> Photonet don't load here. Happens every now and then BTW. So I cant
>> see the pics. I'll have another look later.
>>
>> But I do have one more question. What's the purpose of gold
>> reflectors? Giving the subject a tan? :-)
>> Could it be useful for balancing flash light with tungstein light?
>>
> 
> I built a big reflector, close to 4'x6' (1.3x2 meters) many years back. I 
> built the frame out of 
> copper plumbing pipe and my wife made a reflector fabric to fit out of gold 
> lamé fabric, which 
> happily, was black on the reverse side. I had a big honkin' warm relflector 
> to warm up my 
> glamour portraits, and a gobo, all built into one piece of equipment.
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 
You got any of those glamour portraits to show us?

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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

[Paul Stenquist]

Where did Pentax fall short with the K20? Have you used it? It's a  
great camera.
Have you used the DA* 200 or are you relying on the chicken-little  
internet sites? Those who have used it have nothing but good things  
to say about it. If you're going to read the nonsense you see on the  
web, you'll never be happy with any equipment. Take pictures. Stop  
reading.
Paul
On May 22, 2008, at 3:48 PM, John Mustarde wrote:

> ...as for psychological considerations, there is also
> the unbendable urge to consider any shortfalls of
> Pentax equipment as unfair testing, biased
> German/French/American/Tralfamadorian testers, bad
> sample, or oh-poor-me Pentax doesn't never gets a fair
> shake criticism.  To demean pruple fringing as a
> problem that only occurs for the poor photog who shoots
> backlit twigs is to miss the point - purple fringing is
> well known in digital sensor testing - check
> Dpreview.com for many examples- so lack of mention for
> Canon and Nikon would indicate, duh, a lack of that
> problem on the lens/camera combos tested.
>
> I love Pentax, but long ago gave up the notion that
> they have the "best lenses on planet urth."  Whilst
> Pentax has many fine lenses and cameras, it is sad that
> they have a bad habit of falling short when there is no
> need to fall short, i.e., newly designed expensive
> cameras and lenses such as the K20 and DA* 200.
>
> But Pentax is not alone in lens shortfalls - consider
> how many recent DA-type lenses of all manufacturers
> (with reduced image circle) suffer from severe light
> falloff in the corners.  What's with that?  They have a
> smaller area to cover and can't make a design to cover
> it without significant (1 stop +) falloff?
>
>
> .
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> Paris, TX
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Re: Pentax 645 system site???

[Paul Stenquist]

The medium format discussion on photo.net has some 645 and 6x7  
commentary.
Paul
On May 22, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> Scott - from an earlier discussion of this question...
>
> I thought I had some discussions of 645 lenses etc. stashed away but
> haven't found anything yet. If I find them I will forward to you to
> help you get started on your project...
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> From: "Pedro Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: December 17, 2005 3:25:17 PM CST
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: RE: Pentax 645 system site???
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Another link: http://www.chrysis.net/photo/pentax/pentax645n.htm
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Pedro Oliveira
>>
>> -Mensagem original-
>> De: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 11:38
>> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Assunto: Re: Pentax 645 system site???
>>
>> On 2005-12-17, at 01:10, Pedro Oliveira wrote:
>>
>>> The only site I found concerning the Pentax 645 is this one:
>>>
>>> http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/p645/index.html
>>>
>>> The only problem is that it is...in Japanese. But you can find
>>> interesting information there.
>>>
>>> Hope it helps.
>>
>> Thanks! Seems to be the most complete 645 site so far :-) In links to
>> other pages I found one site of Japanese photographer who regularly
>> uses 645. Especially interesting is overview of his works during past
>> 5 years:
>> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?
>> lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.takeuchitoshinobu.jp%2fhisory%
>> 2findex.htm
>> In 2005 we find: "The "CANON calendar spreading/displaying LANDSCAPE
>> ground" for "The CANON salon" - isn't that ironic and fun? ;-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Sylwek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: When art walks a moral fine line

[Paul Stenquist]

The guy can't get adults to pose for him. Sad case. Needs help.
Paul
On May 22, 2008, at 9:01 PM, David Savage wrote:

>  2008/05/23/1211183044543.html>
> 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"
Subject: Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters



>
You got any of those glamour portraits to show us?

Sure.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/oldwork/oldgirls.html

Enjoy.

The top picture was shot, with my Burke & James view camera, the other two were 
shot with the 
6x7. The middle picture is some sort of funky warm toned paper that went that 
colour after being 
selenium toned to death.

William Robb 


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RE: KatzEye again...

[Antti-Pekka Virjonen]

> Mine is on order. I left off the AF area brackets for 
> fear of getting too many lines on the screen, otherwise 
> I ordered what you ordered. With luck it will be
> here in a couple of weeks.
> 
> William Robb

That's great! I hope you will be as happy with the screen as I am with
mine. 

I will get the DA* 16-50/2.8 back from the service early next week.
Actually, they will give me a brand new lens to replace the original as
the original was sent to Germany and then back to Japan to get the
mechanical/optical problems fixed.

Antti-Pekka


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Sigma 70-200/2.8 and 50-150/2.8 availability scheduled for August

[Thibouille]

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