New K20D firmware

2008-06-16 Thread Tim Bray
http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/digital/k20d_s.html

Apparently fixes the hot-pixel-with-2-sec-delay bug, which I never
shaw, but I've only taken a thousand or so shots on mine.

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Re: OT Motivation

2008-06-16 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/15 Sun PM 08:01:18 GMT
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 Subject: Re: OT Motivation
 
 Bob W wrote:
  Good luck - you can do it!
  
  You may find jogging more efficient than cycling. If you work up to 20
  minutes jogging every other day you will lose a lot of weight very
  quickly.
 
 Bob's right on this. Cycling's much easier on your body when you're 
 starting out. The trouble is, that one of cycling's main attractions, 
 its efficiency as transportation, works against you when you're trying 
 to lose weight, especially if you have limited time available (or aren't 
 yet in good enough shape to put in a lot of time every day yet).
 
 I have a lot of friends who are triathletes or duathletes and they have 
 always told me they regard one hour of running to be equivalent to 4 
 hours of cycling. I didn't believe it until I started cycling myself 
 (I'm training for a 100-miler in the Blue Ridge near GFM in two weeks): 
 Cycling is a really efficient form of transportation, which makes it, by 
 definition, an inefficient way of burning calories.
 
 My advice would be to use cycling as a way to train up to some running. 
 Mont importantly, find some people to work out with on a regular basis. 
 Camaraderie and friendly competitiveness are a *big* help!

Plus, it's always useful to have someone on hand to call the paramedics.


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Re: PESO: Self Portrait Silliness

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

Oi, watch it Klingon boy.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

The R-D1 is a 
lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now) if 
you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.

Of course I don't need it - and do you need that honking great big motorbike?

A nice little 250cc would do you just as well . . .come one... admit it!!

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

But that was a long time ago. The price of entry increases contantly.
But cool is what cool does.

How much do you reckon you've spent on that Chevy in your garage over
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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

But, I reckon, Son is growing very fast and soon he'll be overcoming Dad 
in many ways. Sons are known to do that all the time.

Thanks Boris, ain't it the truth.

BTW, you can turn the heat down you know. I have 'fast' set to 4 fps.

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BTW, you can turn the heat down you know. I have 'fast' set to 4 fps.

You mean, you can actually set the frame rate of this camera when in
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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
There should be an easy cure. Just make him carry the beast during a 'tourist 
day'...maybe then the lightweight Ds is enough for most of the needs...
;-)

- Mensaje original 
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Para: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Enviado: domingo, 15 de junio, 2008 21:37:53
Asunto: Uh oh

Son:  Dad, can I have a go with your gear?

Dad: Okay but wash your hands first - your a teenager and teenagers have
permanently sticky hands.

Son: Whatever.

Dad: That's the 1DmarkII and 70-200 2.8 L IS with a 2X teleconverter.
Should be okay for yonder pigeon.

Son: This is cool.

Dad: Don't get too attached to it please.

Son: Why is it so much faster than the *ist Ds ?

Dad: Er, it's slightly more expensive, but in fact it's 4 years old so
actually not that much more expensive really.

Son: Thanks.

I later find an email from him with links to several eekBay auctions for
EOS 1D, 1D marks II and III cameras.

Dad: What about the *ist Ds ???

Son: I might let mum have it back.

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare6.html

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Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Henk Terhell
Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz 
coming along, obviously part of a music festival activity.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/

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Re: Berlin??? (2d query)

2008-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
2008/6/15 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Never pull on Superman's cape. I did, and when i woke up, i was a
 member of the PDML.

ROTFLMAO!!!

MRK

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Re: PESO - Another 600mm shot

2008-06-16 Thread Toine
Great capture and a great lens.

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/06/600mm-early-attempts.html

 A link to my blog this time, hope you don't mind.

 Yesterday I felt more comfortable with the 600mm, but it takes some
 time to get used to.
 I also tried out using a Wimberley Sidekick on a ReallyRightStuff
 ballhead instead of the much larger Wimberley Head. When trying out
 the difference at home, the dedicated Head seemed less prone to
 vibration than did the Sidekick, but I don't think it mattered much in
 the afternoon sunlight yesterday.

 Thanks for looking,
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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
Fascinating.

Great capture, Henk.

Jostein

2008/6/16 Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz
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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread AlunFoto
Guess I'll have to bring the 600 in August then. :-)

Jostein

2008/6/15 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Son:  Dad, can I have a go with your gear?

 Dad: Okay but wash your hands first - your a teenager and teenagers have
 permanently sticky hands.

 Son: Whatever.

 Dad: That's the 1DmarkII and 70-200 2.8 L IS with a 2X teleconverter.
 Should be okay for yonder pigeon.

 Son: This is cool.

 Dad: Don't get too attached to it please.

 Son: Why is it so much faster than the *ist Ds ?

 Dad: Er, it's slightly more expensive, but in fact it's 4 years old so
 actually not that much more expensive really.

 Son: Thanks.

 I later find an email from him with links to several eekBay auctions for
 EOS 1D, 1D marks II and III cameras.

 Dad: What about the *ist Ds ???

 Son: I might let mum have it back.

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare6.html

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OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

I bought this off eBay last week:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99

And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
help.

Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg

...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.

I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.

Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/16 Mon AM 10:11:59 GMT
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 Subject: OT: Question for the film gurus
 
 G'day All,
 
 I bought this off eBay last week:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1
 
 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99
 
 And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
 that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
 help.
 
 Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg
 
 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.
 
 I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.
 
 Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.

Sorry, can't help.  Too busy laughing (it's the child in me) at the you might 
like this link that came up.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120272163932ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_ITrefitem=120270028244itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemusedrule1=CrossSell_LogicXrefwidgettype=cross_promot_widget_trksid=p284.m183_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%26itu%3DUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4

http://tinyurl.com/6duw8r

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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm guessing it's 35mm motion picture film.

On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:11 AM, David Savage wrote:

 G'day All,

 I bought this off eBay last week:

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
 ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80% 
 2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle% 
 3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99

 And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
 that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
 help.

 Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg

 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.

 I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.

 Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.

 Cheers,

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Re: Looker

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Christine.
On Jun 16, 2008, at 1:20 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Excellent,  Paul.This is really going to be a great book!  Cheers,
 Christine


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 1/30th, ISO 600
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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I can't help you with the type, but you might want to try tray 
processing some of it in BW developer.  There are quite a few sites on 
the internet  that have recommendations for starting times and 
developers for that sort of thing.

David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,

 I bought this off eBay last week:

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99

 And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
 that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
 help.

 Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg

 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.

 I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.

 Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Dave

   


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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
2008/6/16 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://tinyurl.com/6duw8r

 Bob's perfect woman filters.

LOL

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Re: OT Motivation

2008-06-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:00 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/15 Sun PM 08:01:18 GMT
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 Subject: Re: OT Motivation

 Bob W wrote:
  Good luck - you can do it!
 
  You may find jogging more efficient than cycling. If you work up to 20
  minutes jogging every other day you will lose a lot of weight very
  quickly.

 Bob's right on this. Cycling's much easier on your body when you're
 starting out. The trouble is, that one of cycling's main attractions,
 its efficiency as transportation, works against you when you're trying
 to lose weight, especially if you have limited time available (or aren't
 yet in good enough shape to put in a lot of time every day yet).

 I have a lot of friends who are triathletes or duathletes and they have
 always told me they regard one hour of running to be equivalent to 4
 hours of cycling. I didn't believe it until I started cycling myself
 (I'm training for a 100-miler in the Blue Ridge near GFM in two weeks):
 Cycling is a really efficient form of transportation, which makes it, by
 definition, an inefficient way of burning calories.

 My advice would be to use cycling as a way to train up to some running.
 Mont importantly, find some people to work out with on a regular basis.
 Camaraderie and friendly competitiveness are a *big* help!

 Plus, it's always useful to have someone on hand to call the paramedics.

I have thge cell with me

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 15/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

Exactly. It's a PC camera. The current cool thing. But definitely not
worth the money. Nothing in its resume suggests that it is.

 Guys, guys. How much was the *ist D when it first came out?

About half of what i paid for my D1, at $5000 used, and my D2H at $4500.:-)

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 16/6/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

Guys, guys. How much was the *ist D when it first came out?

 The D60 I bought brand new in about 2002 IIRC was nearly 2,000 GBP!!

 How much was your first computer?

Used 8086 for a couple hundred IIRC.

I'll never need any thing more than a 20mb hard drive for what i do.:-)


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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BTW, you can turn the heat down you know. I have 'fast' set to 4 fps.

 You mean, you can actually set the frame rate of this camera when in
 sequence shooting mode? Hmmm...

Yes. I can do that with mine. The D2H can do 40 but i like Cotty have
mine set for 4.

I only use it for reining shows, the slide stop, but don't do much of
those any more.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've spent about $40,000 on the Chevy, and it's worth about $50,000.  
And in ten years it will be worth even more. My digital cameras, on  
the other hand, will be consigned to the scrap heap:-).
Paul
On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 16/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

 But that was a long time ago. The price of entry increases contantly.
 But cool is what cool does.

 How much do you reckon you've spent on that Chevy in your garage over
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Re: OT Motivation

2008-06-16 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote:
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/15 Sun PM 08:01:18 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT Motivation

 Bob W wrote:
 Good luck - you can do it!

 You may find jogging more efficient than cycling. If you work up to 20
 minutes jogging every other day you will lose a lot of weight very
 quickly.

 My advice would be to use cycling as a way to train up to some running. 
 Mont importantly, find some people to work out with on a regular basis. 
 Camaraderie and friendly competitiveness are a *big* help!
 
 Plus, it's always useful to have someone on hand to call the paramedics.

I always travel with my staff pathologist...

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:
 On 15/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 The R-D1 is a 
 lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now) if 
 you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.
 
 Of course I don't need it - and do you need that honking great big motorbike?

Of course not. But the bike was *underpriced* for what it does, not 
overpriced ;-)


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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
BTW, I'm certainly not criticizing your choice of a camera. I'd love  
to have one. I just made the point that it's price is partly a  
function of the cool factor. It's the camera of the moment. In part  
because it's well made, but largely because of its fan base. Its  
specs don't support its price position. But that's true of my Chevy  
as well :-). We all buy things simply because we like them. I bought  
a Leica iiif RD simply because I like it.  It's cool, but it  
certainly isn't a good professional tool. It's just a nifty thing  
that I fondle and sometimes shoot with. Nothing wrong with that. But  
I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hopes to get the most camera  
for the money.
Paul
On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 16/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

 But that was a long time ago. The price of entry increases contantly.
 But cool is what cool does.

 How much do you reckon you've spent on that Chevy in your garage over
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
2008/6/16 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cotty wrote:
 On 15/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The R-D1 is a
 lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now) if
 you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.

 Of course I don't need it - and do you need that honking great big motorbike?

 Of course not. But the bike was *underpriced* for what it does, not
 overpriced ;-)

Overpriced compared to what? The M8 nd?

As far as digital rangefinders go you don't have much choice.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:
 2008/6/16 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cotty wrote:
 On 15/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The R-D1 is a
 lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now) if
 you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.
 Of course I don't need it - and do you need that honking great big 
 motorbike?
 Of course not. But the bike was *underpriced* for what it does, not
 overpriced ;-)
 
 Overpriced compared to what?

Not compared to anything: for what it does

As Paul said, it's indisputably a cool camera. As cool as Paul's car or 
my motorcycle.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Scott Loveless
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 BTW, I'm certainly not criticizing your choice of a camera. I'd love  
 to have one. I just made the point that it's price is partly a  
 function of the cool factor. It's the camera of the moment. In part  
 because it's well made, but largely because of its fan base. Its  
 specs don't support its price position. But that's true of my Chevy  
 as well :-). 

The R-D1 is still holding its value because it's the only game in town 
under 5k if you want a digital range finder camera.  One would think, 
with the current interest in that camera and the M8, that someone would 
hurry up and make another.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Scott Loveless
David Savage wrote:
 2008/6/16 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cotty wrote:
 On 15/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The R-D1 is a
 lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now) if
 you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.
 Of course I don't need it - and do you need that honking great big 
 motorbike?
 Of course not. But the bike was *underpriced* for what it does, not
 overpriced ;-)
 
 Overpriced compared to what? The M8 nd?
 
 As far as digital rangefinders go you don't have much choice.
 
You can't finance a camera at 6%.


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Re: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

2008-06-16 Thread Derby Chang
P. J. Alling wrote:
 I got this from The Online Photographer, it's a running e-bay auction, 
 but I doubt that anyone will complain and if they do then tough.

 http://tinyurl.com/4rxn5p

 I was going to try to work this into a MasterCard riff but simaly just 
 fails me...

   
I admit I quite like the brutal looks of the production M5, but man, 
this prototype is fugly. Seems like it's been styled by the House of Zenit.

If you missed out last time, PhotoArsenal has relisted it.

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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread Walter Hamler
David, it looks somewhat like a film we used in the mopic area for
making BW positives from Mopic negs. The problem is that most of
those type films had no identifying markers or info  preexposed on the
film.
You could try processing an unexposed strip and see if there is any
info printed on the film edges.

Walt

On 6/16/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 I bought this off eBay last week:

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99

 And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
 that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
 help.

 Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg

 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.

 I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.

 Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.

 Cheers,

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PESO - We Did Good, Mom!

2008-06-16 Thread frank theriault
Backstage at a show I never saw:

http://tinyurl.com/57kxso

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZcT7JLrTI/CTc/vso6JyH14e4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+003.jpg

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Re: OT Motivation

2008-06-16 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/16 Mon AM 10:57:43 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT Motivation
 
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:00 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/06/15 Sun PM 08:01:18 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: OT Motivation
 
  Bob W wrote:
   Good luck - you can do it!
  
   You may find jogging more efficient than cycling. If you work up to 20
   minutes jogging every other day you will lose a lot of weight very
   quickly.
 
  Bob's right on this. Cycling's much easier on your body when you're
  starting out. The trouble is, that one of cycling's main attractions,
  its efficiency as transportation, works against you when you're trying
  to lose weight, especially if you have limited time available (or aren't
  yet in good enough shape to put in a lot of time every day yet).
 
  I have a lot of friends who are triathletes or duathletes and they have
  always told me they regard one hour of running to be equivalent to 4
  hours of cycling. I didn't believe it until I started cycling myself
  (I'm training for a 100-miler in the Blue Ridge near GFM in two weeks):
  Cycling is a really efficient form of transportation, which makes it, by
  definition, an inefficient way of burning calories.
 
  My advice would be to use cycling as a way to train up to some running.
  Mont importantly, find some people to work out with on a regular basis.
  Camaraderie and friendly competitiveness are a *big* help!
 
  Plus, it's always useful to have someone on hand to call the paramedics.
 
 I have thge cell with me

_You_ may not be in any condition to call them.  Seriously.


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Re: PESO - We Did Good, Mom!

2008-06-16 Thread Jack Davis
Not certain, but I believe I recently saw them at the Mall. 8-O

Jack


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 Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 5:31 AM
 Backstage at a show I never saw:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/57kxso
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZcT7JLrTI/CTc/vso6JyH14e4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+003.jpg
 
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OT: Digital Forensics

2008-06-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Last week, while back at my undergraduate college for a reunion, I
attended an interesting presentation on digital forensics.  I thought
the subject might be of interest to some here.

It is interesting that photographic tampering goes back to the early
days of photography.  For example, there is this instance of Abe
Lincoln's head being placed onto John C. Calhoon's body:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/publications/click08.pdf

A discussion of digital tampering:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/research/tampering.html

A listing of Prof. Farid's papers:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/publications/

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Hot Pixel Fix Firmware

2008-06-16 Thread Jack Davis
http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/digital/k20d_s.html

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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz 
coming along, obviously part of a music festival activity.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/

I wonder if she remembered her Chopin Liszt ?

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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread Brian Walters
Can't help with the film but I admire your bravery in buying from that
seller.



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On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:11:59 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 G'day All,
 
 I bought this off eBay last week:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1
 
 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99
 
 And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
 that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
 help.
 
 Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg
 
 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.
 
 I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.
 
 Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've spent about $40,000 on the Chevy, and it's worth about $50,000.  
And in ten years it will be worth even more. My digital cameras, on  
the other hand, will be consigned to the scrap heap:-).

Yes but the point is that you don't **need** to spend that amount on a
car. You do it because you *want* to - and as such with things like
this, the value for money is purely subjective. You wouldn't spend 1800
bucks on a rangefinder, and I wouldn't spend 50 big ones on a classic
Chevy. Oh wait, I think I would!

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Of course not. But the bike was *underpriced* for what it does, not 
overpriced ;-)

Bollocks! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! What price pride?!

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

As Paul said, it's indisputably a cool camera. As cool as Paul's car or 
my motorcycle.

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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
It's in perfect condition  a very good price

Cheers,

Dave

2008/6/16 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Can't help with the film but I admire your bravery in buying from that
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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

You mean, you can actually set the frame rate of this camera when in
sequence shooting mode? Hmmm...

Absolutely. There are two settings, lo and hi that can be configured for
one FPS rate each, depending on shutter speed of course. I think.

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

There should be an easy cure. Just make him carry the beast during a
'tourist day'...maybe then the lightweight Ds is enough for most of the
needs...
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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

Guess I'll have to bring the 600 in August then. :-)

I thought you would anyway! Since we're driving, I'll bring everything...

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice. Definitely a New York cat.

The important part in NY is that the camera is big enough to use as
weapon.

 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2008 6:21 PM 
6 grabs from NY and NJ recently.

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Re: OT: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
This is what I'm thinking too Walt.

I did some neg/pos copying back in high school  I think this is what
the ortho film we used looked like.

I'll just have to mix up some chemicals to find out for sure.

Thanks to you  everyone else who offered suggestions.

Cheers,

Dave



2008/6/16 Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 David, it looks somewhat like a film we used in the mopic area for
 making BW positives from Mopic negs. The problem is that most of
 those type films had no identifying markers or info  preexposed on the
 film.
 You could try processing an unexposed strip and see if there is any
 info printed on the film edges.

 Walt

 On 6/16/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 I bought this off eBay last week:

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120270028244ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D120270028244%2509%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xty99

 And it came loaded with about 10m of an an off white coloured film
 that I'm not familiar with. So I'm hoping the PDML collective can
 help.

 Here is a scan of the undeveloped film:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg

 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.

 I'd process a piece but I don't have any fix at the moment.

 Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated.

 Cheers,

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Sure.  Anyone can learn on something good.  Where's the challenge in
that?

 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/15/2008 3:37 PM 
Son:  Dad, can I have a go with your gear?

Dad: Okay but wash your hands first - your a teenager and teenagers
have
permanently sticky hands.

Son: Whatever.

Dad: That's the 1DmarkII and 70-200 2.8 L IS with a 2X teleconverter.
Should be okay for yonder pigeon.

Son: This is cool.

Dad: Don't get too attached to it please.

Son: Why is it so much faster than the *ist Ds ?

Dad: Er, it's slightly more expensive, but in fact it's 4 years old so
actually not that much more expensive really.

Son: Thanks.

I later find an email from him with links to several eekBay auctions
for
EOS 1D, 1D marks II and III cameras.

Dad: What about the *ist Ds ???

Son: I might let mum have it back.

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OT: The Golden Age of Paparazzi

2008-06-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/42058,features,golden-age-of-paparazzi-celebrated

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 6 grabs from NY and NJ recently.

 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html

I like the cat.

I like the wires (I was in Jersey City once, and you captured it perfectly!).

I wish I had an RD-1.  Anyone who's going to compare it to a DSLR and
then say it's not worth it just doesn't get it.  It's like comparing
an old Leica M3 or M4 with the most recent film SLRs.  They just don't
compare feature-for-feature.  There's a zen-like thing with quality
rangefinders that is beyond explanation (by the likes of me, anyway).

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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Henk Terhell
Yes, very well. But I think there was no Liszt on her playing liszt.

Henk

Cotty schreef:
 On 16/6/08, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz 
 coming along, obviously part of a music festival activity.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/
 
 I wonder if she remembered her Chopin Liszt ?
 

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PESO - Midnight at St. Andrew's Station

2008-06-16 Thread frank theriault
Don't mean to flood you all with PESO's this Monday morning, but I
rather like this one (despite technical shortcomings):

http://tinyurl.com/3qe53y

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZbWTn9vHI/CTM/jnItb6f4zJ4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+005.jpg

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html

I like the cat.

I like the wires (I was in Jersey City once, and you captured it perfectly!).

I wish I had an RD-1.  Anyone who's going to compare it to a DSLR and
then say it's not worth it just doesn't get it.  It's like comparing
an old Leica M3 or M4 with the most recent film SLRs.  They just don't
compare feature-for-feature.  There's a zen-like thing with quality
rangefinders that is beyond explanation (by the likes of me, anyway).

Thanks Frank, I really appreciate that (and to Steve dJ also).

As soon as I win the lotto, you're on the list of receivers :)

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sure.  Anyone can learn on something good.  Where's the challenge in
that?

Another good point, and absolutely right!

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Its price has little to do with a cool factor.

Being that Epson is a company that wanted to make a profit, they  
rolled the costs of development and tooling together for a limited  
number unit run and set a price.

That price happened to be high for it to be a profitable venture. Just  
like the price of the M8 happens to be high to be profitable. They're  
not making a lot of profit on either of these cameras.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Jun 16, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 BTW, I'm certainly not criticizing your choice of a camera. I'd love
 to have one. I just made the point that it's price is partly a
 function of the cool factor. It's the camera of the moment. In part
 because it's well made, but largely because of its fan base. Its
 specs don't support its price position. But that's true of my Chevy
 as well :-). We all buy things simply because we like them. I bought
 a Leica iiif RD simply because I like it.  It's cool, but it
 certainly isn't a good professional tool. It's just a nifty thing
 that I fondle and sometimes shoot with. Nothing wrong with that. But
 I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hopes to get the most camera
 for the money.
 Paul
 On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 16/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

 But that was a long time ago. The price of entry increases  
 contantly.
 But cool is what cool does.

 How much do you reckon you've spent on that Chevy in your garage over
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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/6/08, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty schreef:
 On 16/6/08, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz 
 coming along, obviously part of a music festival activity.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/
 
 I wonder if she remembered her Chopin Liszt ?

Yes, very well. But I think there was no Liszt on her playing liszt.

If she holds the Handel, she won't fall off.

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Re: PESO - Another 600mm shot

2008-06-16 Thread Fernando
What he said

On 6/16/08, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great capture and a great lens.

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/06/600mm-early-attempts.html
 
  A link to my blog this time, hope you don't mind.
 
  Yesterday I felt more comfortable with the 600mm, but it takes some
  time to get used to.
  I also tried out using a Wimberley Sidekick on a ReallyRightStuff
  ballhead instead of the much larger Wimberley Head. When trying out
  the difference at home, the dedicated Head seemed less prone to
  vibration than did the Sidekick, but I don't think it mattered much in
  the afternoon sunlight yesterday.
 
  Thanks for looking,
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Re: PESO - We Did Good, Mom!

2008-06-16 Thread Fernando
Funny. Good one.

Fernando.

On 6/16/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Backstage at a show I never saw:

 http://tinyurl.com/57kxso

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZcT7JLrTI/CTc/vso6JyH14e4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+003.jpg

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PESO: One for the birders

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
G'day Folks,

Relax it's not a photoshoped self portrait :-)

Took this one at the Tathra Hilltop Retreat/winery down south near
Nannup a few weeks ago. I call it Dish Licker (~100kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2579303225_98c3bce1ab_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/2579303225/

K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f3.2, ISO 800

All sorts of native birds have grown accustomed to humans  the tasty
food they eat. If you give them some room they will fly onto your
plate / glass and eat the cream off your ice coffee/pie.

In this case a New Holland Honeyeater was licking the remains of ice
cream from a bowl.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Midnight at St. Andrew's Station

2008-06-16 Thread Boris Liberman
For some reason it reminds me a scene from one of the The Matrix movies...

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:47 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't mean to flood you all with PESO's this Monday morning, but I
 rather like this one (despite technical shortcomings):

 http://tinyurl.com/3qe53y

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZbWTn9vHI/CTM/jnItb6f4zJ4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+005.jpg

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Re: PESO - Midnight at St. Andrew's Station

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
2008/6/16 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Don't mean to flood you all with PESO's this Monday morning, but I
 rather like this one (despite technical shortcomings):

No worries Frank it's almost Tuesday here :-)

 http://tinyurl.com/3qe53y

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZbWTn9vHI/CTM/jnItb6f4zJ4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+005.jpg

I like this one. I couldn't say why exactly. But i do.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - We Did Good, Mom!

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
I love the colours. And the scene is very naughties (00)

Might be worth cropping the LHS to isolate  focus on the faces? Dunno.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/6/16 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Backstage at a show I never saw:

 http://tinyurl.com/57kxso

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZcT7JLrTI/CTc/vso6JyH14e4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+003.jpg

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread David Savage
2008/6/16 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 16/6/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sure.  Anyone can learn on something good.  Where's the challenge in
that?

 Another good point, and absolutely right!

Get the lad a box brownie.

:-)

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PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread pnstenquist
Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the 
lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light value. 
I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window light. 
Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used with the cap in 
place, and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite high and of an olive 
drab color. Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere itself.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728

Paul

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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Henk Terhell
That would have been quite a ravel.

Henk

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 Cotty schreef:

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Re: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Derby Chang wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 I got this from The Online Photographer, it's a running e-bay auction, 
 but I doubt that anyone will complain and if they do then tough.

 http://tinyurl.com/4rxn5p

 I was going to try to work this into a MasterCard riff but simaly just 
 fails me...

   
 
 I admit I quite like the brutal looks of the production M5, but man, 
 this prototype is fugly. Seems like it's been styled by the House of Zenit.

 If you missed out last time, PhotoArsenal has relisted it.

 D
   
Actually looks like the ugly bigger brother of a Kodak  Instamatic 500;

http://www.ukcamera.com/classic_cameras/cameras/Kodins7.jpg

Which is really a rather nice little camera, (if only there were film 
for it, or a way to adapt it to 35mm without killing it's looks).

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Be sure to include a nice heavy lens or two...

Cotty wrote:
 On 16/6/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 There should be an easy cure. Just make him carry the beast during a
 'tourist day'...maybe then the lightweight Ds is enough for most of the
 needs...
 ;-)
 

 That's an extremely good point.

   


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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:

 Sure.  Anyone can learn on something good.  Where's the challenge in  
 that?

I don't know whether it makes any difference one way or another. While  
I'd had a couple of simple, junky box cameras before it, the camera I  
credit myself to learning the fundamentals of photography with was my  
grandfather's 1949 Rolleiflex TLR.

What's wrong with learning on something that you know, in the last  
analysis, cannot be at fault for the errors in your photographs? It  
made me aspire to produce the kind of photos I knew the camera was  
capable of.

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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Here we go ... slidin' down the chopin slope.

G

On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

 That would have been quite a ravel.

 Henk

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I consider the Kodak Medalist II a quality range finder, yet it's 
anything but Zen like.  It's a hulking brute of a camera, almost as 
large as current Modern Canon Professional SLR and DSLR models, with a 
similar length lens.  Yet somehow svelte compared to anything else that 
produces a 6x9 negative.  You need big hands to hold it, (long fingers 
at least), and it frightens small children.  It's late 1930's industrial 
machinery adapted to photography.  I suppose it's use is Zen like in 
that it's a slow working camera requiring thought, as there's no rapid 
winding, only have 8 exposures per role, and it does take a bit of time 
to reload, so you better make those count.  The shutter is admirably 
quite though, not that you'll get many candids with it.  Strangely I 
like it quite a bit more than I do the Leica IIIc, though I really do 
like smaller cameras overall.

frank theriault wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 6 grabs from NY and NJ recently.

 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html
 

 I like the cat.

 I like the wires (I was in Jersey City once, and you captured it perfectly!).

 I wish I had an RD-1.  Anyone who's going to compare it to a DSLR and
 then say it's not worth it just doesn't get it.  It's like comparing
 an old Leica M3 or M4 with the most recent film SLRs.  They just don't
 compare feature-for-feature.  There's a zen-like thing with quality
 rangefinders that is beyond explanation (by the likes of me, anyway).

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Re: PESO - Midnight at St. Andrew's Station

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't have a reason but I like that a lot.  If I take the time to 
analyze it I suppose the magic will disappear...

frank theriault wrote:
 Don't mean to flood you all with PESO's this Monday morning, but I
 rather like this one (despite technical shortcomings):

 http://tinyurl.com/3qe53y

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZbWTn9vHI/CTM/jnItb6f4zJ4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+005.jpg

 Thanks for looking and (should you choose to do so) commenting!

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Re: PESO: One for the birders

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd complement you on your technique but apparently you bribed your 
subject...

David Savage wrote:
 G'day Folks,

 Relax it's not a photoshoped self portrait :-)

 Took this one at the Tathra Hilltop Retreat/winery down south near
 Nannup a few weeks ago. I call it Dish Licker (~100kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2579303225_98c3bce1ab_o.jpg
 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/2579303225/

 K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f3.2, ISO 800

 All sorts of native birds have grown accustomed to humans  the tasty
 food they eat. If you give them some room they will fly onto your
 plate / glass and eat the cream off your ice coffee/pie.

 In this case a New Holland Honeyeater was licking the remains of ice
 cream from a bowl.

 Enjoy.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: One for the birders

2008-06-16 Thread pnstenquist
Excellent. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'd complement you on your technique but apparently you bribed your 
 subject...
 
 David Savage wrote:
  G'day Folks,
 
  Relax it's not a photoshoped self portrait :-)
 
  Took this one at the Tathra Hilltop Retreat/winery down south near
  Nannup a few weeks ago. I call it Dish Licker (~100kb):
 
  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2579303225_98c3bce1ab_o.jpg
  http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/2579303225/
 
  K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f3.2, ISO 800
 
  All sorts of native birds have grown accustomed to humans  the tasty
  food they eat. If you give them some room they will fly onto your
  plate / glass and eat the cream off your ice coffee/pie.
 
  In this case a New Holland Honeyeater was licking the remains of ice
  cream from a bowl.
 
  Enjoy.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread David J Brooks
I'd like to have one to, but i'll just have to wait a bit.

I'll have to be cool all by myself.:-)

Dave

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 16/6/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html

I like the cat.

I like the wires (I was in Jersey City once, and you captured it perfectly!).

I wish I had an RD-1.  Anyone who's going to compare it to a DSLR and
then say it's not worth it just doesn't get it.  It's like comparing
an old Leica M3 or M4 with the most recent film SLRs.  They just don't
compare feature-for-feature.  There's a zen-like thing with quality
rangefinders that is beyond explanation (by the likes of me, anyway).

 Thanks Frank, I really appreciate that (and to Steve dJ also).

 As soon as I win the lotto, you're on the list of receivers :)

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Long Lens Enablement

2008-06-16 Thread Walter Hamler
I just received a lens I purchased on Astromart, which caters to
amateur astronomers.
It is Sigma 600mm f/8 Mirror lens. The seller was upfront that the
edge of the mirror coating was deteorating, but my initial test shots
indicate that it has some good potential. I shot across the asphalt
street here in HOT FL and the images were very acceptable. Focus it
TRICKY to say the least.
Just wondering if any others out there have any experiences with this
lens, good or bad.

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Re: Question for the film gurus

2008-06-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David Savage 
Subject: OT: Question for the film gurus



 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Scan-080616-0001.jpg
 
 ...this is a bad scan as it doesn't look that yellow.
 

Just a wild guess, but it looks like Ilford SFX or Konica 750 IR film

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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread Jack Davis
Perfect lighting! Well done, Paul.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 7:27 AM
 Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I
 shot this with the lightsphere on the 540 flash. The
 exposure is close to the ambient light value. I believe it
 was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window
 light. Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being
 used with the cap in place, and it's pointed at the
 ceiling, which is quite high and of an olive drab color.
 Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere
 itself.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728
 
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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Jack. 
 -- Original message --
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Perfect lighting! Well done, Paul.
 
 Jack
 
 
 --- On Mon, 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 7:27 AM
  Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I
  shot this with the lightsphere on the 540 flash. The
  exposure is close to the ambient light value. I believe it
  was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window
  light. Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being
  used with the cap in place, and it's pointed at the
  ceiling, which is quite high and of an olive drab color.
  Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere
  itself.
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728
  
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I consider the Kodak Medalist II a quality range finder, yet it's
 anything but Zen like.  It's a hulking brute of a camera, almost as
 large as current Modern Canon Professional SLR and DSLR models, with a
 similar length lens.  Yet somehow svelte compared to anything else that
 produces a 6x9 negative.  You need big hands to hold it, (long fingers
 at least), and it frightens small children.  It's late 1930's industrial
 machinery adapted to photography.  I suppose it's use is Zen like in
 that it's a slow working camera requiring thought, as there's no rapid
 winding, only have 8 exposures per role, and it does take a bit of time
 to reload, so you better make those count.  The shutter is admirably
 quite though, not that you'll get many candids with it.  Strangely I
 like it quite a bit more than I do the Leica IIIc, though I really do
 like smaller cameras overall.


Okay, so I waxed poetic just a tad...

I guess the Fuji 6x9 (The Texas Leica) ain't Zen-like, either, and
it's certainly a rangefinder.

I was talking about smallish M-body sized 35 mm RF's.

Sorry to confuse.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread P. J. Alling
frank theriault wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I consider the Kodak Medalist II a quality range finder, yet it's
 anything but Zen like.  It's a hulking brute of a camera, almost as
 large as current Modern Canon Professional SLR and DSLR models, with a
 similar length lens.  Yet somehow svelte compared to anything else that
 produces a 6x9 negative.  You need big hands to hold it, (long fingers
 at least), and it frightens small children.  It's late 1930's industrial
 machinery adapted to photography.  I suppose it's use is Zen like in
 that it's a slow working camera requiring thought, as there's no rapid
 winding, only have 8 exposures per role, and it does take a bit of time
 to reload, so you better make those count.  The shutter is admirably
 quite though, not that you'll get many candids with it.  Strangely I
 like it quite a bit more than I do the Leica IIIc, though I really do
 like smaller cameras overall.

 

 Okay, so I waxed poetic just a tad...

 I guess the Fuji 6x9 (The Texas Leica) ain't Zen-like, either, and
 it's certainly a rangefinder.

 I was talking about smallish M-body sized 35 mm RF's.

 Sorry to confuse.

 cheers,
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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Rick Womer
It would have to be a sonata, because a waltz doesn't
have movements.

Rick

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Fernando
Heck, if Pentax made a 10MP camera the size of the ist-D or DS I'd be
quite interested. How about a rangefinder body for k-mount lenses? The
image-plane-to-lens-mount distance would make the body quite deep and
it would be silly with most lenses, but with the pancake Limiteds...
cool.

I second that. I bought a new old stock *istD and I take it for a ride
from time to time. K10D ergonomics are great but the *istD reminds me
of the old 70's design that I also like (smaller, less intrusive).


On 6/15/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On 15/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  Exactly. It's a PC camera. The current cool thing. But definitely not
  worth the money. Nothing in its resume suggests that it is.
  
  Guys, guys. How much was the *ist D when it first came out?
 
   But that was a long time ago. The price of entry increases contantly.
   But cool is what cool does.

 Furthermore, what the R-D1 sells for *now* is probably more than what it
 was really worth when it came out, in terms of materials and function.
 But you can't put a price on cool. (The ist-D was priced comparably to
 its direct competition, the Canon 10D and the Nikon D100.) The R-D1 is a
 lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now) if
 you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.

 I'd love something that small, quiet and unobtrusive with a 10 MP sensor
 (I *do* make prints, and big ones whenever possible). I certainly don't
 *need* one, but I'd probably buy it if it were in the $1000 range. Cool
 is what cool does ;)

 Heck, if Pentax made a 10MP camera the size of the ist-D or DS I'd be
 quite interested. How about a rangefinder body for k-mount lenses? The
 image-plane-to-lens-mount distance would make the body quite deep and it
 would be silly with most lenses, but with the pancake Limiteds... cool.

 Not gonna happen, I know. But then I shouldn't be spending more money on
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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread Fernando
Beautiful, like if there were no flash at all, that's the type of
flash photos I like ;-)

On 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the 
 lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light 
 value. I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window 
 light. Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used with the cap 
 in place, and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite high and of an 
 olive drab color. Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere 
 itself.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728

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Re: Uh oh

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Seriously (and I am capable of that) I agree with you.  You can screw up
with a fancy camera just as easily as simple one.  Analogously, if you
can get good shots on the fancy one you can still do it on the simple
one.  If you always do better with the fancy one, then that just bodes
ill for the simple one.  It's not so much the range of features as that
the 1Dm2 does the basic things well.

 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/16/2008 10:49 AM 

On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:

 Sure.  Anyone can learn on something good.  Where's the challenge in 

 that?

I don't know whether it makes any difference one way or another. While 

I'd had a couple of simple, junky box cameras before it, the camera I 

credit myself to learning the fundamentals of photography with was my 

grandfather's 1949 Rolleiflex TLR.

What's wrong with learning on something that you know, in the last  
analysis, cannot be at fault for the errors in your photographs? It  
made me aspire to produce the kind of photos I knew the camera was  
capable of.

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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Fernando. I'm very pleased with the Lightsphere performance. It 
literally floods the area with light when used in the manner described below, 
but it can also be a good directional light source when shooting through the 
cap as though it were a softbox.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Beautiful, like if there were no flash at all, that's the type of
 flash photos I like ;-)
 
 On 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the 
 lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light 
 value. 
 I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window light. 
 Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used with the cap in 
 place, 
 and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite high and of an olive drab 
 color. 
 Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere itself.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728
 
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Re: OT: My Saturday Project

2008-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's very neat, Dave.

I needed one of those ... Not having a machine shop to play in  
anymore, I bought a similar adapter for $8 at the camera shop. Took  
half an hour to find it in their stock: it would almost have been  
faster to make it if I still had the lathe and milling machine.

Godfrey

On Jun 14, 2008, at 7:29 AM, David Savage wrote:

 G'day All,

 One for those who like to tinker. This is what I did for the second
 part of today:

 in bits
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2577064933_9f3a7b0433_o.jpg

 Assembled
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2577065957_5b5336094c_o.jpg

 In operation
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2577898920_9f3a579fd6_o.jpg

 A handy addition for those who like to use off camera flash I reckon.


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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Besides, price is such a bourgeois concept. 

 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/16/2008 7:26 AM 
2008/6/16 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cotty wrote:
 On 15/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The R-D1 is a
 lovely piece of kit, no doubt about it. Maybe worth the money (now)
if
 you really *need* such a beast, but I'm glad I don't.

 Of course I don't need it - and do you need that honking great big
motorbike?

 Of course not. But the bike was *underpriced* for what it does, not
 overpriced ;-)

Overpriced compared to what? The M8 nd?

As far as digital rangefinders go you don't have much choice.

Dave

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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread Fernando
So far every result I've seen (no only yours) looks great. However, I
understand that it's better paired with the AF540 (more power to
compesate for light loss, and according to the product website swivel
is recommended) , right? I only have the AF360...

On 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Fernando. I'm very pleased with the Lightsphere performance. It 
 literally floods the area with light when used in the manner described below, 
 but it can also be a good directional light source when shooting through the 
 cap as though it were a softbox.
 Paul
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 From: Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Beautiful, like if there were no flash at all, that's the type of
  flash photos I like ;-)
 
  On 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the
  lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light 
  value.
  I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window light.
  Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used with the cap in 
  place,
  and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite high and of an olive drab 
  color.
  Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere itself.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728
  
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Re: PESO -- This is my Son.

2008-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Perhaps you really need that R-D1.  =8^0

Good shot. I agree, the M85/2 is quite a good lens, better than I've  
seen it given credit for.

G


On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Yea, actually I did, what can I say I'm pretentious...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nicely done.
 You give them a business card and tell them to get in touch.
 You didn't really tape over the prism housing, did you? That won't  
 cause anytone to mistake you for a pro.
 Paul
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 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Another shot from the Branford Festival.  It seems if you tape  
 over the
 prism housing on a Pentax SLR you get mistaken for a  
 professional.  I
 was walking around with the *ist-Ds with the Classic Leica lens  
 kit,
 (lenses with an AOV roughly equivelent to 35mm 58mm and 135mm on a  
 35mm
 film camera), when I was approached by this father and son who had  
 just
 finished the Branford Festival 10K run.  They wanted their photos  
 taken,
 but didn't ask for a print or emailed file or anything it seems. I  
 don't
 know what they expect me to do with the shot, since I wasn't  
 officially
 covering the event but I'm posting it here.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20thisismyson.html

 Note:  I'm continually amazed at the M 85mm.  It's a great medium
 telephoto on the *ist-Ds.  A little long portraits but sharp enough,
 wide open, and very sharp stopped down to about f5.6.

 Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0


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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread Toine
Perfect. I wonder if my 360 has enough power. Maybe the 540 version
also fits on a sigma 500. I want to replace the sigma with a 540 in
the future.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:27 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the 
 lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light 
 value. I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window 
 light. Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used with the cap 
 in place, and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite high and of an 
 olive drab color. Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere 
 itself.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728

 Paul

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Re: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul:  I didn't see a Lightsphere fit for the AF 360, bummer.  Christine


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Subject: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait


 Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the 
 lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light 
 value. I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely 
 window light. Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used 
 with the cap in place, and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite 
 high and of an olive drab color. Most of the effective light is emanating 
 from the sphere itself.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728

 Paul

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Re: PESO - Midnight at St. Andrew's Station

2008-06-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:47 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/3qe53y

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZbWTn9vHI/CTM/jnItb6f4zJ4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+005.jpg

Good shot! I like it a lot ... a lot of interesting juxtapositions of  
lines and postures.

Godfrey

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Re: One for the birders

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave:  Excellent shot.  Cheers, Christine


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 G'day Folks,

 Relax it's not a photoshoped self portrait :-)

 Took this one at the Tathra Hilltop Retreat/winery down south near
 Nannup a few weeks ago. I call it Dish Licker (~100kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2579303225_98c3bce1ab_o.jpg
 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/2579303225/

 K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f3.2, ISO 800

 All sorts of native birds have grown accustomed to humans  the tasty
 food they eat. If you give them some room they will fly onto your
 plate / glass and eat the cream off your ice coffee/pie.

 In this case a New Holland Honeyeater was licking the remains of ice
 cream from a bowl.

 Enjoy.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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Re: PESO - We Did Good, Mom!

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Frank:  That's fantastic:  color, composition!  Cheers, Christine


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 Backstage at a show I never saw:

 http://tinyurl.com/57kxso

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZcT7JLrTI/CTc/vso6JyH14e4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+003.jpg

 Comments always welcome!

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Midnight at St. Andrew's Station

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Frank.  Cheers, Christine


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 Don't mean to flood you all with PESO's this Monday morning, but I
 rather like this one (despite technical shortcomings):

 http://tinyurl.com/3qe53y

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZbWTn9vHI/CTM/jnItb6f4zJ4/s1600-h/jun_16_08+005.jpg

 Thanks for looking and (should you choose to do so) commenting!

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Henk:  Totally, missed this shot--which is excellent.  Cheers, Christine


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 Yes, very well. But I think there was no Liszt on her playing liszt.

 Henk

 Cotty schreef:
 On 16/6/08, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz
 coming along, obviously part of a music festival activity.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/

 I wonder if she remembered her Chopin Liszt ?


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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'm not sure that a long thread on the PDML constitutes much current
interest in rangefinders.  ;-)

I honestly have not idea how big the actual market is and once you
start to divide it two or three ways there might not be much left. 
Despite the review, I would be afraid to take on Leica for a high priced
rangefinder. As has been pointed out, you need a pretty high price to
make a profit.  

Someone mentioned that some of the PS cameras are starting to fill the
niche rangefinders used to have.  I'm not agreeing with this, but what
is the highest quality PS you can get?

 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/16/2008 8:16 AM 
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 BTW, I'm certainly not criticizing your choice of a camera. I'd love 

 to have one. I just made the point that it's price is partly a  
 function of the cool factor. It's the camera of the moment. In part 

 because it's well made, but largely because of its fan base. Its  
 specs don't support its price position. But that's true of my Chevy 

 as well :-). 

The R-D1 is still holding its value because it's the only game in town

under 5k if you want a digital range finder camera.  One would think, 
with the current interest in that camera and the M8, that someone would

hurry up and make another.

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Re: PESO: Lightsphere Portrait

2008-06-16 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, the more power the better. It does lose a couple of f-stops. And swivel is 
important in terms of being able to switch rapidly from horizontal to vertical 
shooting. 
Paul
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From: Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So far every result I've seen (no only yours) looks great. However, I
 understand that it's better paired with the AF540 (more power to
 compesate for light loss, and according to the product website swivel
 is recommended) , right? I only have the AF360...
 
 On 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Fernando. I'm very pleased with the Lightsphere performance. It 
 literally floods the area with light when used in the manner described below, 
 but it can also be a good directional light source when shooting through the 
 cap 
 as though it were a softbox.
  Paul
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  From: Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Beautiful, like if there were no flash at all, that's the type of
   flash photos I like ;-)
  
   On 6/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a pic of Grace after a hard day at the park. I shot this with the
   lightsphere on the 540 flash. The exposure is close to the ambient light 
 value.
   I believe it was f3.2 @ 1/100th. The ambient light is largely window 
   light.
   Grace is facing the window. The lightsphere is being used with the cap in 
 place,
   and it's pointed at the ceiling, which is quite high and of an olive drab 
 color.
   Most of the effective light is emanating from the sphere itself.
   
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7413728
   
Paul
   
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