Re: OT: Seeing Red
On 13/11/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: But, all seriousness aside, I was in the camera store today, and there was a guy who was trying out a Sony video cam that had an adapter to take Nikon lenses. Or, I guess he already had the camera adapter and was trying out various Nikon lenses ... Anyway, he said the adapter was to invert the image so it'd be right side up when using still camera lenses??? What's with that? Do video camera lenses invert the image twice or something? If it was a Letus (or similar) then the adapter actually takes the image from the lens and projects it onto a surface that the camera views - hence you don't lose a part of the image like you would if you used a (say) 35mm film lens on an APS-C body. Most professional use video cameras have 3 chips in either 1/3 inch, 1/2 inch, or 2/3 inch sizes. Viz: http://www.letusdirect.com/letus-ultimate.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RE: OT Feedback
No habla Espanol. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/13 Thu PM 08:45:26 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT Feedback Que? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 13 November 2008 10:17 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT Feedback Barry Rice A+ 8-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:09 PM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dof HAS ZILCH to do with format, its all about magnification which is object size vs image size. object size vs image size ignores format. That said, if you are using the same lens focal length, and same distance of the object, and same f-stop, the DOF will be identical in the image regardless if its APS or 4x5 format. the format only changes the angle of view, not the DOF. DOF is not a fundamental image property. It's based on a judgment of what constitutes acceptable sharpness in the final product (print, projected slide, image on screen, etc.). From that assumption, you can get the acceptable CoC on the film or sensor, which will vary by image format. There is a good treatment in Applied Photographic Optics starting on Page 216. You can get a suitable free preview from Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=cuzYl4hx-B8Cprintsec=frontcoverdq=applied+photographic+optics#PPA216,M1 The author discusses the importance of enlargement factor and assumed viewing distance. 8x10 contact prints are contrasted with 8x enlargements from 35mm. Prints from 35mm are contrasted with projected 35mm. Finally, a table is provided showing allowable CoC for various formats, under certain standard assumptions. Here is another such table, from the author of DOF-calculating software: http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html and a Circle-of-Confusion calculator for various formats: http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html#coccalculator Here is another discussion of the topic: http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/tech/dof.html#DIGITAL What's so special about digital cameras? Actually, not much, except that most have sensors smaller (or much smaller) than the 35-mm film frame. Therefore the CoC size used to define acceptably sharp also has to be proportionally smaller. Here is a reprint of a Kodak pamphlet, which also contains a table of different CoCs for different formats: http://people.rit.edu/andpph/text-kodak-aa-3.html Here is another tutorial: http://photo.net/learn/optics/dofdigital/ One of Bob Atkins' (the author's) comments may be particularly helpful to you: The circle of confusion value is NOT an inherent property of the image recored on film. Neither is DoF. As I carefully explained above DoF depends on the circle of confusion value, which in turn depends on how much you enlarge the image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:29 PM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case, FF and aps format would be the SAME DOF, neither one would have deeper dof. And print size is not a factor either. You are incorrect. The DOF depends on the following factors: Lens focal length (f) Lens focal ratio (f-number, N) Subject distance (s) Allowable circle of confusion (c) Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject distance. Don't try to correct John on this, he's forgotten more than most people know on the subject. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject distance. Your statement is only an approximation, useful for close subject distances. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field#Close-up Stated otherwise, for the same subject magnification, all focal lengths give approximately the same DOF. This statement is true only when the subject distance is small in comparison with the hyperfocal distance, however. Don't try to correct John on this, he's forgotten more than most people know on the subject. I'm not most people, and he's wrong. John disputes that the allowable CoC, which you mention above, varies with format. I have provided numerous sources that state otherwise, and offer clear explanations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid iBook
Play all you want. I objected to the attack on Godders, who was, as usual, only trying to help. Paul On Nov 13, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 11/13/08, PN Stenquist, the list moderator, says I can't play anymore: Godders is our Mac problem solver. He's come to my rescue many times. I'm sure he assumed that David knew now to boot from the install disc. It's in the documentation. In any case, the peanut gallery should hush up and let the men do their work. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject distance. Your statement is only an approximation, useful for close subject distances. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field#Close-up Stated otherwise, for the same subject magnification, all focal lengths give approximately the same DOF. This statement is true only when the subject distance is small in comparison with the hyperfocal distance, however. Don't try to correct John on this, he's forgotten more than most people know on the subject. I'm not most people, and he's wrong. John disputes that the allowable CoC, which you mention above, varies with format. I have provided numerous sources that state otherwise, and offer clear explanations. Of course it varies with format. As an examle, you don't need to magnify an image from a 4x5 negative as much as you do an image from an APS-C sensor, so the CoC of the sheet film can be larger. However, trying to correct John is a fools game, no matter what your opinion of the facts are. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:09 PM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dof HAS ZILCH to do with format, its all about magnification which is object size vs image size. object size vs image size ignores format. That said, if you are using the same lens focal length, and same distance of the object, and same f-stop, the DOF will be identical in the image regardless if its APS or 4x5 format. the format only changes the angle of view, not the DOF. DOF is not a fundamental image property. It's based on a judgment of what constitutes acceptable sharpness in the final product (print, projected slide, image on screen, etc.). From that assumption, you can get the acceptable CoC on the film or sensor, which will vary by image format. There is a good treatment in Applied Photographic Optics starting on Page 216. You can get a suitable free preview from Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=cuzYl4hx-B8Cprintsec=frontcoverdq=app lied+photographic+optics#PPA216,M1 The author discusses the importance of enlargement factor and assumed viewing distance. 8x10 contact prints are contrasted with 8x enlargements from 35mm. Prints from 35mm are contrasted with projected 35mm. Finally, a table is provided showing allowable CoC for various formats, under certain standard assumptions. Here is another such table, from the author of DOF-calculating software: http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html and a Circle-of-Confusion calculator for various formats: http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html#coccalculator Here is another discussion of the topic: http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/tech/dof.html#DIGITAL What's so special about digital cameras? Actually, not much, except that most have sensors smaller (or much smaller) than the 35-mm film frame. Therefore the CoC size used to define acceptably sharp also has to be proportionally smaller. Here is a reprint of a Kodak pamphlet, which also contains a table of different CoCs for different formats: http://people.rit.edu/andpph/text-kodak-aa-3.html Here is another tutorial: http://photo.net/learn/optics/dofdigital/ One of Bob Atkins' (the author's) comments may be particularly helpful to you: The circle of confusion value is NOT an inherent property of the image recored on film. Neither is DoF. As I carefully explained above DoF depends on the circle of confusion value, which in turn depends on how much you enlarge the image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
P.S. THATS ALL HOGWASH. All you have to do is shoot a portrait with a wide f-stop like F2 and blur out the background and shoot again at F22 with sharp clear background to see the effect of DOF and KNOW that it doesnt matter what print size you use, the print size has nothing to do with DOF, DOF is a three dimensional effect that is captured/cant be changed by print size. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:09 PM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dof HAS ZILCH to do with format, its all about magnification which is object size vs image size. object size vs image size ignores format. That said, if you are using the same lens focal length, and same distance of the object, and same f-stop, the DOF will be identical in the image regardless if its APS or 4x5 format. the format only changes the angle of view, not the DOF. DOF is not a fundamental image property. It's based on a judgment of what constitutes acceptable sharpness in the final product (print, projected slide, image on screen, etc.). From that assumption, you can get the acceptable CoC on the film or sensor, which will vary by image format. There is a good treatment in Applied Photographic Optics starting on Page 216. You can get a suitable free preview from Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=cuzYl4hx-B8Cprintsec=frontcoverdq=app lied+photographic+optics#PPA216,M1 The author discusses the importance of enlargement factor and assumed viewing distance. 8x10 contact prints are contrasted with 8x enlargements from 35mm. Prints from 35mm are contrasted with projected 35mm. Finally, a table is provided showing allowable CoC for various formats, under certain standard assumptions. Here is another such table, from the author of DOF-calculating software: http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html and a Circle-of-Confusion calculator for various formats: http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html#coccalculator Here is another discussion of the topic: http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/tech/dof.html#DIGITAL What's so special about digital cameras? Actually, not much, except that most have sensors smaller (or much smaller) than the 35-mm film frame. Therefore the CoC size used to define acceptably sharp also has to be proportionally smaller. Here is a reprint of a Kodak pamphlet, which also contains a table of different CoCs for different formats: http://people.rit.edu/andpph/text-kodak-aa-3.html Here is another tutorial: http://photo.net/learn/optics/dofdigital/ One of Bob Atkins' (the author's) comments may be particularly helpful to you: The circle of confusion value is NOT an inherent property of the image recored on film. Neither is DoF. As I carefully explained above DoF depends on the circle of confusion value, which in turn depends on how much you enlarge the image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
B.S. in capitols. DOF is format and print size independent. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject distance. Your statement is only an approximation, useful for close subject distances. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field#Close-up Stated otherwise, for the same subject magnification, all focal lengths give approximately the same DOF. This statement is true only when the subject distance is small in comparison with the hyperfocal distance, however. Don't try to correct John on this, he's forgotten more than most people know on the subject. I'm not most people, and he's wrong. John disputes that the allowable CoC, which you mention above, varies with format. I have provided numerous sources that state otherwise, and offer clear explanations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
WRONG- format is the size of the image captured from the lens, changing the format or the size of the print does NOT change the depth of field created by the lens image. PERIOD. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview - Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject distance. Your statement is only an approximation, useful for close subject distances. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field#Close-up Stated otherwise, for the same subject magnification, all focal lengths give approximately the same DOF. This statement is true only when the subject distance is small in comparison with the hyperfocal distance, however. Don't try to correct John on this, he's forgotten more than most people know on the subject. I'm not most people, and he's wrong. John disputes that the allowable CoC, which you mention above, varies with format. I have provided numerous sources that state otherwise, and offer clear explanations. Of course it varies with format. As an examle, you don't need to magnify an image from a 4x5 negative as much as you do an image from an APS-C sensor, so the CoC of the sheet film can be larger. However, trying to correct John is a fools game, no matter what your opinion of the facts are. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. Sure, big braggart boy. Haul out the credentials and see if that makes a difference. :-} William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: iBook file system problems
Just getting back on the ibook, and read your instructions. Will try this out in just a few momnents. I need to finish my tea. I need strenght for this. Dave On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2008, at 4:18 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Are you running it (Disk Utility) from the OS install boot disk? No, but i found my install disk, actually there are two disks in the box. The startup drive cannot be repaired. You must start up from the Mac OS X distribution CD or DVD, the one that came with your computer or a general purpose, retail box deliverable. Do i just put the first CD in the CD reader and boot the computer.?? I'm worried it will start to install something here. To boot from the distribution CD/DVD: - insert it into the CD/DVD drive (in most cases, the system must be up and running). - either double-click the installer starting point or restart and hold down the C key ... keep holding it until you hear the optical drive rev up and the system starts to read the startup sequence from it. When it comes up, you step into the first screen of the system installation procedure. Stop there, go to the menubar and pick Disk Utility off the Utilities menu. Then you can do a verify and repair of the internal hard drive. Once done, use the Quit command and you'll be back in the installer. Use the Quit command again and it will bring up the Startup Disk control panel and let you set the internal hard drive to be the startup drive. Restart and you're done. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Some fine concert pix there. I really like 4, 5, 7, 8 13. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
2008/11/14 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. Sure, big braggart boy. Haul out the credentials and see if that makes a difference. :-} HAR!! DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On 11/14/08, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. You must be new here. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
2008/11/15 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/14/08, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. You must be new here. Double Har! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
On 14/11/08, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. 7, 12, 16. 12 is fab. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday: a digicam and an image tank
I have two auctions on ebay this week. Both items in excellent condition. Leica D-Lux 3: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270301668263 Epson P-4000 image tank: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270301676059 Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: November PUG is up
Thanks Scott, for the work done! All are nice, but the four that work best for me are: -- The little bird by David Brooks -- Red Umbrella by Jaume Lahuerta -- Høst (= Autumn I guess?) by Toralf -- Lake Mathieson and Fox Glacier by Peter McIntosh Thanks all for posting! Greetz Jos Scott Loveless wrote: PUG's up. http://pug.komkon.org/ Submit photos for December at http://www.pdmlpug.org/. The link is in the column on the right. I'll try to get the next year's worth of submit forms up over the next couple of days. They'll be in the same place. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On 11/14/08, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. You must be new here. MARK!!! -- Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk; we must act big. - Theodore Roosevelt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: November PUG is up
Dank je Jos, I am glad you liked it ! - Mensaje original De: Jos from Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: viernes, 14 de noviembre, 2008 17:08:56 Asunto: Re: November PUG is up Thanks Scott, for the work done! All are nice, but the four that work best for me are: -- The little bird by David Brooks -- Red Umbrella by Jaume Lahuerta -- Høst (= Autumn I guess?) by Toralf -- Lake Mathieson and Fox Glacier by Peter McIntosh Thanks all for posting! Greetz Jos Scott Loveless wrote: PUG's up. http://pug.komkon.org/ Submit photos for December at http://www.pdmlpug.org/. The link is in the column on the right. I'll try to get the next year's worth of submit forms up over the next couple of days. They'll be in the same place. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Christmas is Starting Early
Just have to share this with the group! :-) There is a factory in Northern Minnesota which makes the Tickle Me Elmo toys. The toy laughs when you tickle it under the arms. Well, Lena is hired at The Tickle Me Elmo factory and she reports for her first day promptly at 8:00 AM. The next day at 8:45 AM there is a knock at the Personnel Manager's door. The Foreman throws open the door and begins to rant about the new Employee. He complains that she is incredibly slow and the whole line is backing up, putting the entire production line behind schedule. The Personnel Manager decides he should see this for himself, so the 2 men march down to the factory floor. When they get there the line is so backed up that there are Tickle Me Elmo's all over the factory floor and they're really beginning to pile up. At the end of the line stands Lena surrounded by mountains of Tickle Me Elmo's. She has a roll of plush red fabric and a huge bag of small marbles. The 2 men watch in amazement as she cuts a little piece of fabric, wraps it around two marbles and begins to carefully sew the little package between Elmo's legs. The Personnel Manager bursts into laughter. After several minutes of hysterics he pulls himself together and approaches Lena... 'I'm sorry,' he says to her, barely able to keep a straight face, 'but I think you misunderstood the instructions I gave you Yesterday...' 'Your job is to give Elmo two test tickles.' :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Oak canopies
Thanks Frank, Ann, Jack, Dave, and Brian for the feedback. Brian, the light thru the deciduous trees and leaves in Fall is my favorite time of year in North America. It is just a spectacular display, often too short. I can't get enough of it and have lots of samples of it now. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:49:09 -0600, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Enclosed are two photos I took the other morning. I like the reds here in the dawn light. (I've also quit worrying about taking cliche photos.) Comments appreciated... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8218994size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8219032size=lg K20D with Voightlander 125mm f2.5 Macro - 1/200th @ f5.0 and ISO 400 The second one is great. Beautiful foliage colours and contrasts. I find the out of focus foliage at the top of the first one detracts from the image. Except in some of the colder areas of the country, we don't see a lot of this sort of massed foliage colour here. Australia doesn't have many native deciduous trees. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: a digicam and an image tank
My wife has the Leica D-Lux 3. A very fine camera with the exception that is has no viewfinder. If you or yours want a hold-at-arms-length digicam, this would be a very fine choice. stan On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Amita Guha wrote: I have two auctions on ebay this week. Both items in excellent condition. Leica D-Lux 3: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270301668263 Epson P-4000 image tank: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270301676059 Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
Matthew, Listen to Bill Robb. Lots of us have blocked posts from JC O'Connell. Other, moderated lists have kicked him out for his boorish behavior. He never gives in, right or wrong, and always has to have the last word, IN CAPS!!! Don't wrestle in the mud with pigs. You'll get dirty and they like it. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX ASHPHERICAL
On Nov 13, 2008, at 20:45, John Sessoms wrote:
I don't think the difference between 18-35 20-35 would be that
much of a problem.
Availability might be more of a problem. I couldn't find the FA
20-35 listed at KEH, BH, Adorama or on Ebay. KEH does have the
Sigma lens.
A local shop here in Minneapolis has a 20-35 in their used bins - for
$400.
If you care to look:
http://www.natcam.com/usedcam/catalog/usedList.asp?
link=12USID={DFFEFFC6-E44E-4C89-AE90-ACE2BC54EA29}
-Charles
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Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. Yes, but what have you done ~lately~? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. Yes, but what have you done ~lately~? Taken a shower to get the mud off. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 12 is fab. Yeah. She's so hot. Great stuff, Dario! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Spotted in a stairwell...
Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. LMAO! Great grab! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid iBook
Thanks to cheekygeek for these tips. I ran the disk repair with the install disk, and all it found was the volume needed minor repair and it fixed it. I also reran the disk permissions. Many needed fixing. Still have 7.9 gig free as apposed to 18.4. Ran disk inventory, neat layout. Only big thing i saw was in users, sparse image files had 29 gig in it. In the sub directories a whole bunch of files named davebrooks.1 or davebrooks.15 etc. Not sure what this is, so its still on the computer. Nothing even close to 11 gig shows up. I;'m starting to panic now.:-) Dave On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:42 AM, CheekyGeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, My messages seem to not be getting to the pdml list, so I'm sending this directly to you. What version of the Mac OS are you running? Do you happen to run Norton Antivirus? If so, which version? Do you have Filevault turned on? Forcing the mac to do it's maintenance (getting rid of logs and temp files) may fix the problem: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2319?viewlocale=en_US To see where big files exist- Download this free program (it's excellent donationware): DiskInventoryX DiskInventoryX is a great graphical way to identify what's taking up big chunks of your hard drive (and where it is). http://www.derlien.com/ It reads your drive and creates a graphical view (color-coded shapes) A 10 GB file is gonna be VERY easy to spot. It will tell you exactly where that file is so you can go in and delete it. You might google the name of the file before deleting it, just to make sure you aren't gonna mess anything up by deleting it. A couple of other pages that might be useful: http://www.macfixitforums.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/353391/1/Where_Did_My_Disk_Space_Go (This is 2 year old info and may not ALL apply to the newest versions of the Mac OS.) This one is for Tiger (but some things might still apply to Leopard) http://www.pinkmutant.com/articles/TigerMisc.html -d -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Christmas is Starting Early
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just have to share this with the group! :-) snip HAR! Thanks for the laugh, Walter. :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Out of the Tunnel - Check Your i-Phone!
Frank - To me, that's what most of your pix are all about...little slices of what life is...pieces of history that, if preserved, in 20, 50, 100 years folks can look at and see what our lives were like in the early 21st century. We can all enjoy the beauty in a great image, be it photography or the old masters, but it's photography on a daily basis that can depict who we are and who we have been; that can cause us to look at the faces and wonder what their lives were, what were their fears, their hopes, their dreams, were they fulfilled or did they just live lives of quiet desperation. -p frank theriault wrote: What I really like about this sort of ultra-wide shot is taking a look at what everyone else is doing in the car. Some sleeping (or at least with their eyes shut). Some reading. Some in conversation. Some just staring blankly into space. It may not be great photography, but it says something about human nature, IMHO. Hope you enjoy: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/11/out-of-tunnel-check-your-i-phone.html cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:02:26PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. You must login to view this page -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:40, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:02:26PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. You must login to view this page Nuts, it was supposed to be public! Oh, I mis-read. here ya go: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276l=db771id=744116392 (almost the same, but not quite) Thanks for pointing that out. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RE: OT Feedback
No habla Espanol Press 1 for English ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: OT Feedback No habla Espanol. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/13 Thu PM 08:45:26 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT Feedback Que? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 13 November 2008 10:17 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT Feedback Barry Rice A+ 8-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Hey, I'm 39...
Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid iBook
CheekyGeek: Disk Inventory X is a great tool! I have several other tools that attempt a similar task but this one is much more accessible and easier to understand. Thanks for posting the link! Dave: The most important question, given what you found, is whether you have FileVault turned on. I think you do. It's a question I only rarely think to ask ... (thanks again, cheekygeek!). You can find this out by looking at the settings ... In Mac OS X v10.5.x, the FileVault setting is in System Prefs - Security panel, FileVault tab. I seem to recall that the switch to turn it on and off was elsewhere in Tiger, so check around system preferences if you don't see it in the Security panel. It would most likely be in the Accounts panel if it's not in the Security panel. If FileVault is turned on, that explains the 'sparse image files' in the Users directory and where your disk space is going. When you are running FileVault, all of your account's directory tree (including all your files and folders) is encrypted into a sparse image file (a form of virtual volume file like a disk image) which is opened and mounted every time you login on the system. When you hard-quit the system using the power button, FileVault cannot cleanly close that file and ensure that it is properly safeguarded, so the next time you start up it recreates the sparse image file, increments the number you're seeing (davebrooks.N, where N is the copy number) and opens that. Each one of those files takes up however much space on disk, even though the older versions are no longer being used. So the last time you forced power off, it recreated that sparse image again ... To fix this: - Be sure you BACK UP all your account's data files to an external drive first. Preferably to a freshly formatted, empty external drive. - Turn FileVault off. - Once you do that, and FileVault finishes the job of returning your account to an unencrypted tree of folders and files, you can safely delete all the sparse image files named davebrooks.N. - If you then feel you need the security of FileVault, turn it back on. It will recreate a sparse image file but there will be only one of them. Personally, I would only use FileVault if you had data that needed to be secure on a laptop that you used for a lot of travel, but others have different ideas ... This should regain all that lost disk space for you. Godfrey On Nov 14, 2008, at 10:18 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Thanks to cheekygeek for these tips. I ran the disk repair with the install disk, and all it found was the volume needed minor repair and it fixed it. I also reran the disk permissions. Many needed fixing. Still have 7.9 gig free as apposed to 18.4. Ran disk inventory, neat layout. Only big thing i saw was in users, sparse image files had 29 gig in it. In the sub directories a whole bunch of files named davebrooks.1 or davebrooks.15 etc. Not sure what this is, so its still on the computer. Nothing even close to 11 gig shows up. I;'m starting to panic now.:-) Dave On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:42 AM, CheekyGeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, My messages seem to not be getting to the pdml list, so I'm sending this directly to you. What version of the Mac OS are you running? Do you happen to run Norton Antivirus? If so, which version? Do you have Filevault turned on? Forcing the mac to do it's maintenance (getting rid of logs and temp files) may fix the problem: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2319?viewlocale=en_US To see where big files exist- Download this free program (it's excellent donationware): DiskInventoryX DiskInventoryX is a great graphical way to identify what's taking up big chunks of your hard drive (and where it is). http://www.derlien.com/ It reads your drive and creates a graphical view (color-coded shapes) A 10 GB file is gonna be VERY easy to spot. It will tell you exactly where that file is so you can go in and delete it. You might google the name of the file before deleting it, just to make sure you aren't gonna mess anything up by deleting it. A couple of other pages that might be useful: http://www.macfixitforums.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/353391/1/Where_Did_My_Disk_Space_Go (This is 2 year old info and may not ALL apply to the newest versions of the Mac OS.) This one is for Tiger (but some things might still apply to Leopard) http://www.pinkmutant.com/articles/TigerMisc.html -d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: November PUG is up
Thanks Jos, and thanks to everyone else who commented too. Ciao, Peter in western Sydney -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jos from Holland Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 03:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: November PUG is up Thanks Scott, for the work done! All are nice, but the four that work best for me are: -- The little bird by David Brooks -- Red Umbrella by Jaume Lahuerta -- Høst (= Autumn I guess?) by Toralf -- Lake Mathieson and Fox Glacier by Peter McIntosh Thanks all for posting! Greetz Jos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
[...] As I carefully explained above DoF depends on the circle of confusion value, Welcome to the PDML. JCO has a high circle of confusion value, and often talks a lot of CoC. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Hey, I'm 39...
Happy birthday. Congrats on the exhibition! Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Opinions about DA 17-70/4 SDM wanted
Hi Boris, I found the 17-35 very acceptable in all other respects, it's interesting to note that it's not just Klaus who noticed the field curvature but Pop Photo and IIRC Shutterbug. It may have been one of the few times I should have given more heed to the reviewers opinions. Regards, John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2008 19:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Opinions about DA 17-70/4 SDM wanted Hi! Thanks, John. Yes, I noticed that some of the reviews mentioned that... I will have another, closer, look. Boris John Whittingham wrote: Hi Boris The Tamron 17-35 has quite a bit of field curvature resulting in a lot of images that do not look sharp at the edges. This was something I found quite unacceptable in a lens I used mainly for landscape and group photographs and I eventually sold it and bought the DA 16-45. The DA 16-45 has to be one of the best value lenses I ever bought and I'm more than satisfied with the results. Apparently the Tamron 17-50 shares the same field curvature issues as the 17-35, I'm hoping the 10-24 performs better in this respect because I'd really like to try one and keep it company with my Tamron 28-75 or a bag full of FA primes. Regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
Congratulations. Nice work! Paul On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Dario All hot, particularly 12, 13, and 14. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Out of the Tunnel - Check Your i-Phone!
A lot to see and examine. Fun shot! You're getting to be quite an accurate belly shooter. Sneakiness may help. ;) Jack --- On Fri, 11/14/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Out of the Tunnel - Check Your i-Phone! To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 9:35 AM This isn't my best subway shot ever, probably not even my best subway shot this week, but it's why I love shooting underground. There are a few places along our subway lines where the trains come out of tunnels and ride in the open for several minutes. It's funny nowadays: many people reach for their cellphones (and now i-Phones and Blackberries) for truncated conversations and surfing. One day I'll catch a bunch of people on camera doing just that, but last weekend it was just this fellow. What I really like about this sort of ultra-wide shot is taking a look at what everyone else is doing in the car. Some sleeping (or at least with their eyes shut). Some reading. Some in conversation. Some just staring blankly into space. It may not be great photography, but it says something about human nature, IMHO. Hope you enjoy: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/11/out-of-tunnel-check-your-i-phone.html cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
You may still be too young to participate on this list. I'll check with The Board. ;)) Enjoyed the look at your work. Jack --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hey, I'm 39... To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 11:03 AM Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:07:49 -, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] As I carefully explained above DoF depends on the circle of confusion value, Welcome to the PDML. JCO has a high circle of confusion value, and often talks a lot of CoC. Bob Maybe so, but it's been a while since we've had a fun thread like this... :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: November PUG is up
Brian: thanks for the compliment. The photo was taken 3 feet away from a screen with the Gnome desktop, but I hadn't realized where I got the idea from. I think my favourite is Footsteps by Thrainn Vigfusson - well thought out and well executed. It looks like the Gnome Desktop logo (http://www.gnome.org/) except it has one too many toes. Cotty: I think you're right. I was concentrating on getting the reflections on the aluminium right, and the aperture was set to match the output from the strobe. I couldn't have changed the aperture more than 2 or 3 stops anyway, because of space and strobe limitiations. Honourable Mention: Footsteps by Thrain Vigfusson Great idea but for me too much and not enough depth of field. The upper footprint is trying to be soft but needs more softness, or it's trying to be sharp and needs more sharpness. Thrainn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
Congratulations on your birthday and your exhibition, and best wishes for many more! I think you will find 39 is ok - I have been 39 for many many years now and it has worked out all right... Stan On Nov 14, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http:// www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco Brilliant! Congrats on the show, Gianfranco. Nice to see you on list again (even if for a brief visit). Glad that things are going well for you. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RE: OT Feedback
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Press 1 for English ! Press 2 for American. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: November PUG is up
Yes, it's my pic. I actually re-submitted the photo about a minute after I'd sent the first with a lengthy (for me) explanation about the timing of the shot. I actually thought I'd put in more info the first time than appears on the PUG page. If anyone wants to see dog pics, I did take one around the time of the equinox too :-) Wendy (my latest addition http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/105903912) On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:57 PM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy is, I presume, Wendy Beard - long time Pentaxlistian... (aside to other list members - What you thought she only took pictures of dogs? :)) ann whose life eclipsed the synchronicity - maybe next year Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 13, 2008, at 07:22 , Scott Loveless wrote: PUG's up. http://pug.komkon.org/ Good looking set of images. Congratulations to you all, even the unidentified Wendy. Peter Pan? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Gagging!
AH!!!...NO MORE BILLS! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=345 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
Hey Gianfranco! Congrats! ann fan Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
Happy Birthday, Gianfranco! Good photos! Would enjoy seeing the exhibition in person. I would check the terms of use for facebook, however. I seem to recall that posting photos to facebook had some very heavy copyright/usage penalties. Don't know for sure since I've never used the service myself, but be careful... ! Godfrey On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
On Nov 14, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276l=db771id=744116392 I like the photo, Charles. However, I'm leery of the FaceBook terms of use and the rights it grants for User Content. See http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf particularly this portion of the above: ...By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing. ... I saw Gianfranco using facebook just a few minutes ago too. I'd never post stuff to a site with these sorts of terms of use for MY image content. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
My caps dont make me wrong, and I dont care how many web links you provide. these people misunderstade DOF if they claim format or print size effects it. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
Friday, November 14, 2008, 6:36:21 AM, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR From: Matthew Hunt WR Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. WR Sure, big braggart boy. Haul out the credentials and see if that makes a WR difference. :-} WR William Robb OK, you got me laughing out loud on that one. Eventually he will learn with who he is arguing... :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
Dario, Very nice set. The best are 11, 12, 13, maybe 14. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Dario All hot, particularly 12, 13, and 14. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
Problem is I have the FACTS on my side. To say format or print size effects DOF is wrong. Its in camera magnification and f-stop that effects DOF. All those other things are total non factors. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview Matthew, Listen to Bill Robb. Lots of us have blocked posts from JC O'Connell. Other, moderated lists have kicked him out for his boorish behavior. He never gives in, right or wrong, and always has to have the last word, IN CAPS!!! Don't wrestle in the mud with pigs. You'll get dirty and they like it. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: November PUG is up
Wendy, Darling dog shots. The puppy is fun and the dark faced (shepherds?) are so expressive. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:52 PM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's my pic. I actually re-submitted the photo about a minute after I'd sent the first with a lengthy (for me) explanation about the timing of the shot. I actually thought I'd put in more info the first time than appears on the PUG page. If anyone wants to see dog pics, I did take one around the time of the equinox too :-) Wendy (my latest addition http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/105903912) On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:57 PM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy is, I presume, Wendy Beard - long time Pentaxlistian... (aside to other list members - What you thought she only took pictures of dogs? :)) ann whose life eclipsed the synchronicity - maybe next year Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 13, 2008, at 07:22 , Scott Loveless wrote: PUG's up. http://pug.komkon.org/ Good looking set of images. Congratulations to you all, even the unidentified Wendy. Peter Pan? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
Well, he's overlooked the facts or looked at false statements and concluded they are true. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must be right. Yes, but what have you done ~lately~? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
DOF CHANGES are relative and DO NOT depend on a circle of confusion number, this thread started out talking about DOF changes. 1. If you lower the in-camera magnification or increase the fstop number, DOF gets deeper or MORE DOF. 2. If you increase the in-camera magnification or decrease the fstop number, DOF gets shallower or LESS DOF. Changing format, print size, focal lenght, etc, HAVE ZERO EFFECT on DOF. It doesnt matter what circle of confusion you use to define in focus, only factors that change the DOF are in camera magnification and fstop. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:08 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview [...] As I carefully explained above DoF depends on the circle of confusion value, Welcome to the PDML. JCO has a high circle of confusion value, and often talks a lot of CoC. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
Wonderful, Paul. They should be very pleased. Maybe you can find time to post the cover shot when that embargo is lifted.(?) Jack --- On Fri, 11/14/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 2:53 PM I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
It's engineered for drag racine. that's surprising. I wouldn't have thought Dodge were particularly interested in 17th century French playwrights who respected the classical unities. And I'm astonished to learn that he, a Jansenist, liked to dress in women's clothing. He seemed like such a nice man. Qui te l'a dit? as Hermione so famously asked. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PN Stenquist Sent: 14 November 2008 22:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
On 14/11/08, Gianfranco Irlanda, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php? aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) It's all Greek to me. Congrats ;-) -- Ciaiaiaiaiiiaaiaiao, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
On 14/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg Nice shot, as always. Watch out for the first in the new series of Top Gear (don't know what channel it airs on in the US - other petrolhead listers will tell you). They spend a good deal of time with a Caddy, a Vette, and a new Challenger http://jalopnik.com/5081442/top-gear-reviews-dodge-challenger-corvette- zr1-cadillac-cts+vand-they-like-them http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2006/08/stories/11/1.html I am deeply in love with the Challenger. Try and see the programme - it's an absolute hoot! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Hey, I'm 39...
Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php? aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) It's all Greek to me. You're not reading the subtext. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
On 14/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: However, I'm leery of the FaceBook terms of use and the rights it grants for User Content. See http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf particularly this portion of the above: ...By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing. ... Hey, let them eat Klingon! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=974249id=718071616 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Seeing Red
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13/11/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: But, all seriousness aside, I was in the camera store today, and there was a guy who was trying out a Sony video cam that had an adapter to take Nikon lenses. Or, I guess he already had the camera adapter and was trying out various Nikon lenses ... Anyway, he said the adapter was to invert the image so it'd be right side up when using still camera lenses??? What's with that? Do video camera lenses invert the image twice or something? If it was a Letus (or similar) then the adapter actually takes the image from the lens and projects it onto a surface that the camera views - hence you don't lose a part of the image like you would if you used a (say) 35mm film lens on an APS-C body. Most professional use video cameras have 3 chips in either 1/3 inch, 1/2 inch, or 2/3 inch sizes. Viz: http://www.letusdirect.com/letus-ultimate.html Might not have been exactly that one, but yes, something very similar. It didn't have the offset rails. The rails on the one he was using went all the way through both front and rear mounts. I remember him saying something about a 1/2 inch sensor and a spinning or vibrating ground glass. Three chips? Separate sensors for RGB? The guys at the camera store didn't know anything about his video camera, and he didn't know anything about Nikon camera lenses, so they were having a fairly interesting discussion. One of the lenses he looked at seemed to be the Nikon equivalent of the FAJ lens (i.e. no manual aperture ring) and it defaulted to fully stopped down when he mounted it to the adapter. They were trying to figure out how to force it to stay open all the time, because it was just too dim. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
On Nov 14, 2008, at 16:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 14, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276l=db771id=744116392 I like the photo, Charles. However, I'm leery of the FaceBook terms of use and the rights it grants for User Content. See http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf I fully understand what you're saying, Godfrey. For the most part, I use Facebook for casual photography. I've read that agreement before and while it is somewhat worrisome, I, for the most part, don't put stuff I depend on for a living up there. I realize that although those terms are somewhat draconian for ANY person, I don't really rely on my photos for anything more than my own amusement and entertainment - and, sadly, it makes for a very easy platform for sharing casual snaps with my friends. I'd never post stuff to a site with these sorts of terms of use for MY image content. If I were you, I would not either. Seriously! I appreciate your pointing this out. For my usage and needs, I'm not going to sweat it too much (yet). -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid iBook
On Nov 14, 2008, at 13:10, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: CheekyGeek: Disk Inventory X is a great tool! I have several other tools that attempt a similar task but this one is much more accessible and easier to understand. Thanks for posting the link! I've found that a very similar tool (might be just the same but for whatever reason seems neater to me) called Grand Perspective does a very good job of grouping/coloring files so that it is quite simple to see what's sopping up all of the space at a quick glance. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Christmas is Starting Early
Hum, this explains why they build them in Taiwan... Walter Hamler wrote: Just have to share this with the group! :-) There is a factory in Northern Minnesota which makes the Tickle Me Elmo toys. The toy laughs when you tickle it under the arms. Well, Lena is hired at The Tickle Me Elmo factory and she reports for her first day promptly at 8:00 AM. The next day at 8:45 AM there is a knock at the Personnel Manager's door. The Foreman throws open the door and begins to rant about the new Employee. He complains that she is incredibly slow and the whole line is backing up, putting the entire production line behind schedule. The Personnel Manager decides he should see this for himself, so the 2 men march down to the factory floor. When they get there the line is so backed up that there are Tickle Me Elmo's all over the factory floor and they're really beginning to pile up. At the end of the line stands Lena surrounded by mountains of Tickle Me Elmo's. She has a roll of plush red fabric and a huge bag of small marbles. The 2 men watch in amazement as she cuts a little piece of fabric, wraps it around two marbles and begins to carefully sew the little package between Elmo's legs. The Personnel Manager bursts into laughter. After several minutes of hysterics he pulls himself together and approaches Lena... 'I'm sorry,' he says to her, barely able to keep a straight face, 'but I think you misunderstood the instructions I gave you Yesterday...' 'Your job is to give Elmo two test tickles.' :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview
Hey dudes, JC is correct on DoF. Chill. Mixing CoC and DoF is a no win argument unless a value of CoC is fixed before you start. You can achieve a deeper DoF from any projected image if you decide after the fact that a sloppier focus (larger CoC) is acceptable in your resultant print or negative, but that is not changing the DoF, only your eyesight. On Nov 14, 2008, at 05:32 , JC OConnell wrote: B.S. in capitols. DOF is format and print size independent. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX ASHPHERICAL
They don't seem to have it listed anymore. Makes me feel good, I think
I paid less for my copy new. Hell, some of my lenses may be paying for
my comfort in my old age, others I may as well junk now...
Charles Robinson wrote:
On Nov 13, 2008, at 20:45, John Sessoms wrote:
I don't think the difference between 18-35 20-35 would be that much
of a problem.
Availability might be more of a problem. I couldn't find the FA 20-35
listed at KEH, BH, Adorama or on Ebay. KEH does have the Sigma lens.
A local shop here in Minneapolis has a 20-35 in their used bins - for
$400.
If you care to look:
http://www.natcam.com/usedcam/catalog/usedList.asp?link=12USID={DFFEFFC6-E44E-4C89-AE90-ACE2BC54EA29}
-Charles
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Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
Facebook want's me to login, I don't have an account, I don't want an account, I see it as a point of pride that I don't need an account. Charles Robinson wrote: Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
Thanks Jack. I'll post the cover shot when the magazine is published. On Nov 14, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Wonderful, Paul. They should be very pleased. Maybe you can find time to post the cover shot when that embargo is lifted.(?) Jack --- On Fri, 11/14/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 2:53 PM I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
To which I say, yes it certainly is. Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:40, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:02:26PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. You must login to view this page Nuts, it was supposed to be public! Oh, I mis-read. here ya go: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276l=db771id=744116392 (almost the same, but not quite) Thanks for pointing that out. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX ASHPHERICAL
On Nov 14, 2008, at 18:04, P. J. Alling wrote: They don't seem to have it listed anymore. Makes me feel good, I think I paid less for my copy new. Hell, some of my lenses may be paying for my comfort in my old age, others I may as well junk now... One wonders if someone on this list just jumped on it - it's been on their used list for the past couple of weeks. Nope - it's still there. Item #800519684 -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
Nice set. I prefer Nos. 12 and 15. She's into it, she looks good. I am not judging by best photographic technique or result, only as a photo of her. There are others that are technically better. Wish I had the time or $$$ to go see Lucinda Williams in Seattle tonight. Didn't find out about the gig until last night late, and tickets are up over $100 for general admission. On Nov 14, 2008, at 06:45 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Dario Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
120 film in a Brownie?? - help!
Guys - Can you use 120 film instead of 620 film in an old Brownie Hawkeye? TIA for quick correct answer :) ann, she who may have screwed up -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Missing 11 gig reprise
Hi all Well. I reran disk inventory and had a closer look. For some reason, there was , a few days ago, a file from the computer called: david brooks prevoius idisk: I deleted it, and thought no more. it was 11 gig. I deleted my trash, and firevauly ran for quite some and now i have my 11 gig back. PLEASE may i thank Godfrey, computer geek and Paul S , for being on my side,. Folks, i know i panic, but thanks Dave On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CheekyGeek: Disk Inventory X is a great tool! I have several other tools that attempt a similar task but this one is much more accessible and easier to understand. Thanks for posting the link! Dave: The most important question, given what you found, is whether you have FileVault turned on. I think you do. It's a question I only rarely think to ask ... (thanks again, cheekygeek!). You can find this out by looking at the settings ... In Mac OS X v10.5.x, the FileVault setting is in System Prefs - Security panel, FileVault tab. I seem to recall that the switch to turn it on and off was elsewhere in Tiger, so check around system preferences if you don't see it in the Security panel. It would most likely be in the Accounts panel if it's not in the Security panel. If FileVault is turned on, that explains the 'sparse image files' in the Users directory and where your disk space is going. When you are running FileVault, all of your account's directory tree (including all your files and folders) is encrypted into a sparse image file (a form of virtual volume file like a disk image) which is opened and mounted every time you login on the system. When you hard-quit the system using the power button, FileVault cannot cleanly close that file and ensure that it is properly safeguarded, so the next time you start up it recreates the sparse image file, increments the number you're seeing (davebrooks.N, where N is the copy number) and opens that. Each one of those files takes up however much space on disk, even though the older versions are no longer being used. So the last time you forced power off, it recreated that sparse image again ... To fix this: - Be sure you BACK UP all your account's data files to an external drive first. Preferably to a freshly formatted, empty external drive. - Turn FileVault off. - Once you do that, and FileVault finishes the job of returning your account to an unencrypted tree of folders and files, you can safely delete all the sparse image files named davebrooks.N. - If you then feel you need the security of FileVault, turn it back on. It will recreate a sparse image file but there will be only one of them. Personally, I would only use FileVault if you had data that needed to be secure on a laptop that you used for a lot of travel, but others have different ideas ... This should regain all that lost disk space for you. Godfrey -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 120 film in a Brownie?? - help!
On 11/14/08, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys - Can you use 120 film instead of 620 film in an old Brownie Hawkeye? TIA for quick correct answer :) ann, she who may have screwed up IIRC, you can bend the film supports on the feed side enough to fit the reel in, but you'll need a real metal 620 reel on the takeup side. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
PN Stenquist wrote: I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg /Very/ nice shot, Paul. I'm not fond of the halo around the car, but that's a nit, surely. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 120 film in a Brownie?? - help!
On 11/14/08, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/14/08, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys - Can you use 120 film instead of 620 film in an old Brownie Hawkeye? TIA for quick correct answer :) ann, she who may have screwed up IIRC, you can bend the film supports on the feed side enough to fit the reel in, but you'll need a real metal 620 reel on the takeup side. That's been my experience as well. There used to a film supplier in KC who shaved 120 spools without removing the film from them. These worked OK until you put them in the take up position. Check eBay. You should be able to find those metal 620 spools there. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 120 film in a Brownie?? - help!
thanks, Scott and Mat (and Evan who wrote off list) There is a take up reel in the camera - if the take up reel is the fixed one at the top :-) I'm not doing this myself -- A student is cleaning my kitchen floor in exchange for a camera that will take 120... in this day of financial distress all over, it seems like a good barter to me . ann Scott Loveless wrote: On 11/14/08, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/14/08, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys - Can you use 120 film instead of 620 film in an old Brownie Hawkeye? TIA for quick correct answer :) ann, she who may have screwed up IIRC, you can bend the film supports on the feed side enough to fit the reel in, but you'll need a real metal 620 reel on the takeup side. That's been my experience as well. There used to a film supplier in KC who shaved 120 spools without removing the film from them. These worked OK until you put them in the take up position. Check eBay. You should be able to find those metal 620 spools there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
- Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish I had the time or $$$ to go see Lucinda Williams in Seattle tonight. Didn't find out about the gig until last night late, and tickets are up over $100 for general admission. oooh, Lucinda Williams, she'd be good to hear. I'm with ya on this one Joe. Cheers, Chrisitne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blueswoman Ana Popovic
Dario: My pics are 5, 7, 10, 11. Nice set. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:45 AM Subject: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Hay Bales
Pretty cool shot, there. The patterns work well. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 12:18:28 PM, you wrote: JD Each of the past six years, I've entered at least one piece in JD the Sacramento Fine Art Centers Photo Odyssey. JD In the first three years, I won, in descending order, one each JD of; first place, second place and honorable mention. First and JD second place were in BW Nature and the other, color scenic. JD I knew I hadn't won anything this year, but I went to the JD Sacramento Fine Art Gallery yesterday to squint at the JD competition. Each judge or set of judges has its own agenda, JD obviously, but these folks must have resented being driven to JD judge this show. Oddest set of choices I've ever giggled at. (Loser's Smirk!) JD The attached might have taken a large ribbon in that show. Just for fun. JD Jack JD All comments appreciated. JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=342 JD K10D, FA [EMAIL PROTECTED], f/8, ISO 200, 1/500 JD *I keep this lens on the K10D virtually all the time. JD JD -- JD PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JD PDML@pdml.net JD http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spotted in a stairwell...
That's quite fun, Charles. Good eye! FYI, I saw the pic on the public link you posted after this link. And wrt to the facebook copyright thing, Charles, I'd stay clear; you just never know. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Spotted in a stairwell... Something about what this sign said, and how it said it: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2094276id=744116392 If any of you can't peek at Facebook from work let me know.. I could put it somewhere else. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Out of the Tunnel - Check Your i-Phone!
Nice, Frank. And I agree with Paul's comments about your work. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: PESO - Out of the Tunnel - Check Your i-Phone! This isn't my best subway shot ever, probably not even my best subway shot this week, but it's why I love shooting underground. There are a few places along our subway lines where the trains come out of tunnels and ride in the open for several minutes. It's funny nowadays: many people reach for their cellphones (and now i-Phones and Blackberries) for truncated conversations and surfing. One day I'll catch a bunch of people on camera doing just that, but last weekend it was just this fellow. What I really like about this sort of ultra-wide shot is taking a look at what everyone else is doing in the car. Some sleeping (or at least with their eyes shut). Some reading. Some in conversation. Some just staring blankly into space. It may not be great photography, but it says something about human nature, IMHO. Hope you enjoy: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/11/out-of-tunnel-check-your-i-phone.html cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package
Congrats, Paul on the shot. Looks great as usual. Hope to see the cover shot soon. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, I'm 39...
Gianfranco: I'm new, so you don't know me, but I thought I'd say happy b-day anyway and congrats on the exhibit. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Hey, I'm 39... Hi everybody! I'll try to put apart my lurking status for a while... It looks like I'm growing older every year (most of us do...) Among the good news, yesterday was the opening of my new exhibition, several years after the last one. A good crowd for an opening, but strangely I didn't take a single shot when the people were there (well, not that strangely, I was constantly shaking hands and hugging friends...) Luckily others took pictures, I hope to have them pretty soon. If you want to have a look at the exhibition shots (a few of them are well known here) not in the same shape as the prints on show, of course - good ol' silver based prints - I have them on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2009813l=e2183id=1283751350 ) So, that's all for now. Ciao, Gianfranco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package
Thanks Doug. Hmmm, I could clone the halo out. It's due to a shadow in the rear. Don't know what caused it in front. I thought it contributed to the sensation of motion, but perhaps it's distracting. Paul On Nov 14, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: PN Stenquist wrote: I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg /Very/ nice shot, Paul. I'm not fond of the halo around the car, but that's a nit, surely. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dodge Challenger Race Package
Nicely captured PAul. What's that going on at the front end - looks like cloud build up? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Dodge Challenger Race Package I shot this car for Dodge PR and Mopar Action magazine about a month ago. The embargo has been lifted now, so I can show a pic. Another frame from the shoot is going on the cover, so I'll hold off on showing that. The car itself is quite remarkable. It's a basically stock Dodge Challenger with a different third member and a slightly modified 6.1 liter version of their hemi engine. You can buy it from the factory on special order. It's engineered for drag racine. i photographed it during prototype testing, so I couldn't choose the time of day for best light. This shot was in early afternoon. Performance? The car ran 10.01 at 132 mph in a quarter mile. That's faster than any exotic you can buy today. Not bad for a basically off-the-shelf piece of Detroit iron. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8226674size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
