RE: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

Thanks Christine, much appreciated.

Regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine  
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Sent: 28 May 2009 05:10
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Subject: Re: Owl in Flight

John, this shot is a beauty.  It pops large on my screen, and I think you
got everything just right!  I love it!  cheers, Christine


- Original Message -
From: "John Whittingham" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:49 AM
Subject: PESO: Owl in Flight


> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species
> of owl?
>
> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>
> Large:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
>
> Regards,
>
> John
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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

Thanks Bob, I thought I had something more exotic for a while.

Regards,

John

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Sent: 27 May 2009 22:33
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Actually I think someone else was right, and I'm wrong. I now think it's a
barn owl because of the shape of the face.

Bob

>
> Thanks Bob.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
> Of Bob W [p...@web-options.com]
> Sent: 27 May 2009 21:39
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> Subject: RE: PESO: Owl in Flight
>
> >
> > Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify
> > the species of owl?
> >
> > Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
> >
> > Large:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> I think it's a male snowy owl (Nyctea Scandiaca).
>
> Bob
>
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RE: No GFM:-(

[John Coyle]

So sorry to hear about your daughter, Paul - my thoughts are with you both
and hope she recovers well.


John in Brisbane



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stenquist


> In a message dated 5/26/2009 10:12:28 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:
> My daughter's second  chemo session is scheduled for Friday. I take  
> her
> to the hospital and  pick her up when she's finished, so I had to
> cancel my GFM  reservation. Once again. In any case, they refunded my
> money with a  smile, as always. So a spot has opened up, although I
> guess there's a  waiting list.
>
> Really wanted to make it there this time around. I'll try  again next
> year.
> Paul
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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[peter alling]

The multi coating is not that big a deal if you follow the the usual
precautions of not shooting into a light source and use a good lens
hood.  However the later lenses, those which are the same optical
formulas as the subsequent [K] mount lenses are usually better than
the same focal length of an earlier design.  That's kind of a duh
comment, but it is something to keep in mind.  The Super Takumar
lenses coatings were excellent and are still better than many
manufactures mulit-coatings.

Tim Bray wrote:

> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> Tim,
>>A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great
>>Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!

>Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over
>the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC.  How
>big a deal is the coating?  -Tim

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Re: GESO-Egret

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, was  that fun, Bruce.  All the frames are lovely.  Great work!  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:04 PM
Subject: GESO-Egret



I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
that golden glow at the end of the day.

I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
overall.

After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!


Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm

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Re: PESO - Waiting for the Parade

[Christine Aguila]

Hey, this is very Godfreyesque.  Good one, Scott.  Fun concept.  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - Waiting for the Parade



Took this one yesterday while sitting on the curb waiting for the
parade. 
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/V3B_y2PFHlMEGVrB_vA3WQ?feat=directlink


K100D, FA50/1.4, hotter than it should have been in freaking May.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 077 - GDG

[Christine Aguila]

Godfrey, I just can't decide.  I love both renderings--I think I lean to the 
bw just a bit.  Great composition.  Again, both renderings are great! 
Cheers, Christine



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From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
To: "SeePhoto Talk" ; "DUG" 
; ; 
"PDML List" ; "PAW Picture-A-Week project" 

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: PESO 2009 - 077 - GDG


Wandering in New York City on a sultry night in Summer 2002, I made  this 
exposure with a Contax Tix camera. I'd processed it once before,  but I 
found it again yesterday while scanning the roll of film and  thought it 
might be interesting in both color and monochrome renderings.


BW:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3570532460_23b682696f_o.jpg
 flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3570532460/

Color:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3569719895_9a54bbe968_o.jpg
 flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3569719895/

077 - "St. James Hotel" - New York 2002
Contax Tix on Fuji F100 film

Comments always appreciated.

enjoy!
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Re: PESO - Casual Exercise

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice, Bruce.  Light here is really great.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: PESO - Casual Exercise



Father and Son out for some exercise - loved the footwear of the
father.

Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm
ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/8, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0509.htm

Comments welcome


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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Doug:  This is a wonderfully elegant shot, but I agree with the comment 
that it needs more pop to the contrast.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO - simplicity...



http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257

enjoy

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Re: Owl in Flight

[Christine Aguila]

John, this shot is a beauty.  It pops large on my screen, and I think you 
got everything just right!  I love it!  cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "John Whittingham" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:49 AM
Subject: PESO: Owl in Flight


Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species 
of owl?


Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715

Large:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg

Regards,

John
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Re: PESO - Iris

[Christine Aguila]

That's very pretty, Bruce--worth lugging the gear!  Cheers, Christine


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From: "Bruce Walker" 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:39 PM
Subject: PESO - Iris


Dragged all the gear across the street to my neighbor's front yard as he 
has a much nicer iris display at the moment. This one is lit from slightly 
below with a gelled flash, then sharpened a bit and Curves adjusted.


http://is.gd/HJ8N

-bmw

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Re: Arrived in NC

[ann sanfedele]

I've really been strapped for time to write here but popping on and 
checking out the index of posts
I had to glom onto this...  remembering very fondly one terrific weekend 
where I was the fourth
musketeer with you 3 (to those not in the know, mark, chainsaw brooks 
and knarf) in that cabin...
still giggling remember how Don proposed that being a girl I should have 
the big foldout in the livingroom
and the three guys should get the bunk beds in back  - but  we were 
having none of that .  We awarded

Dave and his vocal nose the livingroom ... I love that cabin, too...

Fond memories, but nice things are happening here in NYC to make me feel 
less sorry for myself having

to miss this coming weekend...

You boys be nice to Christine, now!

xo,
ann

David J Brooks wrote:


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:38 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
 


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
   


I'm now safely ensconced in "the cabin" (and roughing it by Cotty's
definition: Only dial-up for Internet).
 



   


But for now it's time for some food and beer and to put my feet up for a bit
and try to get over this cold I've been fighting (sniffle).
 


That cabin's one of my favourite places in the world.  I envy you (but
not your cold).
   



Ditto.

Dave
 


Whatcha drinking?  Endo?

;-)

cheers,
frank



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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Joseph McAllister]

On May 27, 2009, at 19:59 , William Robb wrote:


- Original Message -
From: "Tim Bray"
Subject: Big-telephoto advice


For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
toward...


If you can find an A 600 f/5.6, it is a very good performer.


A used Tamron 300 ƒ2.8 AF SP with a Tamron 2x Pz-AF TC gives you a 600  
ƒ5.6 with AF for 1/2 of what an A 600 ƒ5.6 would cost, and "might" be  
just as good with sharpness, maybe not as good CA.



Joseph McAllister
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Re: PESO - Iris

[Jack Davis]

Appears to have been lit a bit from behind. Love the lighting. Symmetry is a 
tiny bit distracting.

Jack

--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> From: Bruce Walker 
> Subject: PESO - Iris
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 6:39 PM
> Dragged all the gear across the
> street to my neighbor's front yard as he has a much nicer
> iris display at the moment. This one is lit from slightly
> below with a gelled flash, then sharpened a bit and Curves
> adjusted.
> 
> http://is.gd/HJ8N
> 
> -bmw
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Re: PESO - Iris

[Brendan MacRae]

Beautiful.



- Original Message 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:39:06 PM
Subject: PESO - Iris

Dragged all the gear across the street to my neighbor's front yard as he has a 
much nicer iris display at the moment. This one is lit from slightly below with 
a gelled flash, then sharpened a bit and Curves adjusted.

http://is.gd/HJ8N

-bmw

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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[William Robb]

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From: "Tim Bray"
Subject: Re: Big-telephoto advice



>
> Holy cow, this used-glass thing is a fascinating sub-sub-sub-culture.
> I was particularly charmed by a K-mount Tokina SL400 400mm f5.6 going
> suspiciously cheap on EBay, from the UK.  The URL was three lines long
> so I'm not gonna cut&paste it in here.


On the subject of Tokina, I could probably be talked out of my AT-X 400mm 
f/5.6 for a fair price.

William Robb 



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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Brendan MacRae]

The A400 5.6 suffers pretty bad CA even right down the middle, at least mine 
does. There was a long thread about this a couple of years ago when I posted a 
shot where the fringing was pretty bad in the middle of the image and the scene 
wasn't even backlit. The CA correction in Camera Raw and other converters can't 
fix it.

That was coupled with the K10D. I've not used it much with the K20D.



- Original Message 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:53:44 PM
Subject: Re: Big-telephoto advice

The A 400/5.6 is a much better lens than the screwmount, the SMC or the M 
versions of the 400, in that it will focus close enough to get a bird full 
frame, and it gives you all metering options on a Pentax digital DSLR. I've 
seen them for less than $400. I think that's about what I paid for mine four or 
five years ago. A decent lens. It also works well with the Pentax AX-S 2 and 
1.4 converters. It doesn't accept the L converters. Some CA on digital cameras 
when shooting branches against the sky, but that's fixable. I would guess the 
SMC 500/4.5 or 300/4 are even worse in that regard.
Paul
On May 27, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Tim,
>> A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great.
>> Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!
> 
> Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over
> the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC.  How
> big a deal is the coating?  -Tim
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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Big-telephoto advice



>
> For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
> toward...

If you can find an A 600 f/5.6, it is a very good performer.

William Robb



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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Tim Bray]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>  so I was thinking maybe a used big old
> fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
> went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses
> for sale there regularly.

Holy cow, this used-glass thing is a fascinating sub-sub-sub-culture.
I was particularly charmed by a K-mount Tokina SL400 400mm f5.6 going
suspiciously cheap on EBay, from the UK.  The URL was three lines long
so I'm not gonna cut&paste it in here.

The Super-Takumar 300 (no SMC) is *definitely* the most common thing
out there, as many of them as everything else put together.   One of
those would probably meet my needs.

I had to resist the temptation to pull the trigger several times; that
*can't* be a good thing to do on the day you first discover new
territory... -T

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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[John Francis]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:11:39PM -0400, Christian wrote:
>
> "Big" telephoto? If I still had a Pentax DSLR I'd have a 600/4 FA*  
> With a 300/2.8 FA* for hand-held flight shots.
>
> But that's me...

I've hand-held a 300/2.8 with the 1.7x AF adapter on it.
That's a sweet combination (a 500mm/4.5).

But you won't find that going on eBay for $700 ...

The Tamron 300/2.8 is a darn good lens, too; I only
switched to a Pentax A* because I got an offer that
I couldn't refuse.  And that one used to be available
at around $1000 (although that was some years ago).



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Re: PESO - Iris

[Bob Sullivan]

Oh that's fun!  Great shot.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Dragged all the gear across the street to my neighbor's front yard as he has
> a much nicer iris display at the moment. This one is lit from slightly below
> with a gelled flash, then sharpened a bit and Curves adjusted.
>
> http://is.gd/HJ8N
>
> -bmw
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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Doug Franklin]

David J Brooks wrote:


May not be as long as you want, but the Sigma 300 F4 APO is a pretty good lens.
I bought mine a few years ago, and i'm not sure of ebay availability these days.


I've been very pleased with the Sigma APO 400 f/5.6 Macro, too. 
Especially since I got it on close out after it was discontinued for US$ 
500. :-)


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Re: PESO - Iris

[paul stenquist]

Stunning. A dramatic graphic.
Paul
On May 27, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Dragged all the gear across the street to my neighbor's front yard  
as he has a much nicer iris display at the moment. This one is lit  
from slightly below with a gelled flash, then sharpened a bit and  
Curves adjusted.


http://is.gd/HJ8N

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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "paul stenquist"
Subject: Re: OT - Oz is a big place.
>>
> And Vancouver's cool.


I'd take Seattle's cool over Vancouver any day.
Vancouver isn't what it used to be.

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PESO - Iris

[Bruce Walker]

Dragged all the gear across the street to my neighbor's front yard as he 
has a much nicer iris display at the moment. This one is lit from 
slightly below with a gelled flash, then sharpened a bit and Curves 
adjusted.


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RE: Big-telephoto advice

[J.C. O'Connell]

I would disagree with this. The difference between SMC and Supertaks is
Nearly nil with these low element long telephotos. It doesn’t
practically matter. The
Later Pentax tele lenses like the SMC-A* 300/4 blow away the earlier
SMCK 300/4
Or takumar 300/4 lenses on CA elimination due to a much improved optical
design, nothing
To do with coatings at all...

>From what I recall, and it's kinda sketchy, the takumar 300/4 and
500/4.5
Both have fairly visible CA on APS digital, the 400/5.6 is better in
that
Regard. The A*300 is much better than the ST/SMCT/SMCK 300/4 with
respect
To CA elimination. Its way smaller too. If you can afford the A*300/4
For roughly $500-700 in nice shape, I would recommend that one very
heavily, but the others
Are going to need CA correction in post processing to get good results,
Except maybe the 400/5.6 screwmounts may be OK, I just don’t recall how
Good the 400 is other than its better than the 300 and 500mm screwmounts

On CA. The M*300/4 should be as good as the a* version too, it just
don’t
Support AE (no "A" setting on the aperture setting ring).

jco

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Big-telephoto advice


Tim,
I think with the SMC coatings, they are virtually indistingushable from
the A series lenses, maybe even the FA's.  Without the SMC coatings, get
a good lens hood!  The SMC is best for reducing flare in backlighting.
I think the Super Takumars are the series before the SMC Takumars.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  
> wrote:
>> Tim,
>> A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great. Most 
>> everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!
>
> Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over 
> the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC.  How 
> big a deal is the coating?  -Tim
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Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7 *is* the K30D.

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  The original name for the K-7 was the K30. However, as developement rolled
  on, we realized that this camera was much more than a replacement to the
  K20D. Therefore, we decided to move to a different number.

  As far as where that number came from, it is hard to say. I probably
  shouldn't share this, but the original suggestion was K-9. For obvious
  reasons we here in the US and our European counterparts vetoed this idea.

Says John Carlson, Pentax Product Managerfor Imaging Systems.


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Re: Arrived in NC

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

I'm now safely ensconced in "the cabin" (and roughing it by Cotty's
definition: Only dial-up for Internet).



But for now it's time for some food and beer and to put my feet up for a bit
and try to get over this cold I've been fighting (sniffle).


That cabin's one of my favourite places in the world.  I envy you (but
not your cold).

Whatcha drinking?  Endo?


Haven't made it to the "good beer" store yet. But I've got Saranac Black 
& Tan and Sierra Nevada IPA. Those'll do for now ;-)


Now to bed. Gotta be up at 4:00 to make out to the Blue Ridge in good 
light. Sunrise is nominally at 6:13 but the sky will start to get light 
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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[paul stenquist]

The A 400/5.6 is a much better lens than the screwmount, the SMC or  
the M versions of the 400, in that it will focus close enough to get a  
bird full frame, and it gives you all metering options on a Pentax  
digital DSLR. I've seen them for less than $400. I think that's about  
what I paid for mine four or five years ago. A decent lens. It also  
works well with the Pentax AX-S 2 and 1.4 converters. It doesn't  
accept the L converters. Some CA on digital cameras when shooting  
branches against the sky, but that's fixable. I would guess the SMC  
500/4.5 or 300/4 are even worse in that regard.

Paul
On May 27, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  
 wrote:

Tim,
A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great.
Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!


Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over
the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC.  How
big a deal is the coating?  -Tim

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RE: Big-telephoto advice- Beware of CA the longer you go

[J.C. O'Connell]

WARNING - the older long tele lenses tend to have much higher CA
Than older short fl lenses and its really noticable on APS format
DSLR Cameras. If your going to go with older glass be careful. I would
Think later designs from the mid 80's or later with low dispersion
Glass or true APO will work better over 200mm than the 60's and 
70's glass in general. If you use primes and don't mind doing CA
Corrections, than you should be able to get good results with the
Old OEM lenses but if you don't wanna do CA corrections than your
Gonna need really good teles.
jco

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Tim Bray
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:47 PM
To: ?Pentax-Discuss? Mail? List??
Subject: Big-telephoto advice


We bought a waterfront cottage last year and all of a sudden I'm
interested in wildlife & maritime photography.  My biggest lens is an
old old OLD Tamron 70-210 and its contacts are problematic, the camera
can only see it half the time.  This would see very limited use,
probably just the cottage, so I was thinking maybe a used big old
fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses for
sale there regularly.

For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
toward or turkeys to stay away from?  I'm assuming nearly anything will
fit, e.g. the "SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5 4.5/500 Telephoto" with the bidding
currently at around $700 Canadian.  Any good online references to
consult?

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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Bob Sullivan]

Tim,
I think with the SMC coatings, they are virtually indistingushable
from the A series lenses, maybe even the FA's.  Without the SMC
coatings, get a good lens hood!  The SMC is best for reducing flare in
backlighting.  I think the Super Takumars are the series before the
SMC Takumars.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Tim,
>> A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great.
>> Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!
>
> Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over
> the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC.  How
> big a deal is the coating?  -Tim
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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Tim Bray]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Tim,
> A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great.
> Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!

Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over
the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC.  How
big a deal is the coating?  -Tim

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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Bob Sullivan]

Tim,
A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great.
Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> We bought a waterfront cottage last year and all of a sudden I'm
> interested in wildlife & maritime photography.  My biggest lens is an
> old old OLD Tamron 70-210 and its contacts are problematic, the camera
> can only see it half the time.  This would see very limited use,
> probably just the cottage, so I was thinking maybe a used big old
> fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
> went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses
> for sale there regularly.
>
> For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
> toward or turkeys to stay away from?  I'm assuming nearly anything
> will fit, e.g. the "SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5 4.5/500 Telephoto" with the
> bidding currently at around $700 Canadian.  Any good online references
> to consult?
>
>  -Tim
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Re: Big-telephoto advice

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On 5/27/09, Tim Bray  wrote:
> We bought a waterfront cottage last year and all of a sudden I'm
>  interested in wildlife & maritime photography.  My biggest lens is an
>  old old OLD Tamron 70-210 and its contacts are problematic, the camera
>  can only see it half the time.  This would see very limited use,
>  probably just the cottage, so I was thinking maybe a used big old
>  fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
>  went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses
>  for sale there regularly.
>
>  For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
>  toward or turkeys to stay away from?  I'm assuming nearly anything
>  will fit, e.g. the "SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5 4.5/500 Telephoto" with the
>  bidding currently at around $700 Canadian.  Any good online references
>  to consult?

I think you should let us come stay at your cabin for a few days and
get a feel for it.  Then we should be able to tell you which lens is
best suited for your purposes.

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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[Christian]

Tim Bray wrote:

We bought a waterfront cottage last year and all of a sudden I'm
interested in wildlife & maritime photography.  My biggest lens is an
old old OLD Tamron 70-210 and its contacts are problematic, the camera
can only see it half the time.  This would see very limited use,
probably just the cottage, so I was thinking maybe a used big old
fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses
for sale there regularly.

For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
toward or turkeys to stay away from?  I'm assuming nearly anything
will fit, e.g. the "SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5 4.5/500 Telephoto" with the
bidding currently at around $700 Canadian.  Any good online references
to consult?

 -Tim


"Big" telephoto? If I still had a Pentax DSLR I'd have a 600/4 FA* 
With a 300/2.8 FA* for hand-held flight shots.


But that's me...


Christian

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Re: Big-telephoto advice

[David J Brooks]

Tim.

May not be as long as you want, but the Sigma 300 F4 APO is a pretty good lens.
I bought mine a few years ago, and i'm not sure of ebay availability these days.

Dave

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> We bought a waterfront cottage last year and all of a sudden I'm
> interested in wildlife & maritime photography.  My biggest lens is an
> old old OLD Tamron 70-210 and its contacts are problematic, the camera
> can only see it half the time.  This would see very limited use,
> probably just the cottage, so I was thinking maybe a used big old
> fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
> went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses
> for sale there regularly.
>
> For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
> toward or turkeys to stay away from?  I'm assuming nearly anything
> will fit, e.g. the "SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5 4.5/500 Telephoto" with the
> bidding currently at around $700 Canadian.  Any good online references
> to consult?
>
>  -Tim
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Re: Arrived in NC

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:38 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> I'm now safely ensconced in "the cabin" (and roughing it by Cotty's
>> definition: Only dial-up for Internet).
> 
>> But for now it's time for some food and beer and to put my feet up for a bit
>> and try to get over this cold I've been fighting (sniffle).
>
> That cabin's one of my favourite places in the world.  I envy you (but
> not your cold).

Ditto.

Dave
>
> Whatcha drinking?  Endo?
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Big-telephoto advice

[Tim Bray]

We bought a waterfront cottage last year and all of a sudden I'm
interested in wildlife & maritime photography.  My biggest lens is an
old old OLD Tamron 70-210 and its contacts are problematic, the camera
can only see it half the time.  This would see very limited use,
probably just the cottage, so I was thinking maybe a used big old
fixed-focal-length telephoto like my Dad used to use 30 years ago. I
went poking around on EBay and sure enough, there are big old lenses
for sale there regularly.

For my K20, are there any classics that I should particularly lean
toward or turkeys to stay away from?  I'm assuming nearly anything
will fit, e.g. the "SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5 4.5/500 Telephoto" with the
bidding currently at around $700 Canadian.  Any good online references
to consult?

 -Tim

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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[Stan Halpin]

Good to hear from you Rob!
And thanks for the phone number. Somebody was wondering about cell- 
phone reception at GFM - now we have a valid number we can use to  
test and compare different carriers...


stan

On May 27, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


On 5/27/09, Christian  wrote:

Rob!  good to see you de-lurk, if only for a moment.  See you in  
Sydney.


Hi Guys,

Yes it's a temporary de-lurk at the moment, I start a live studio
re-fit tomorrow so won't be able to do much but tread water for the
next couple of weeks.

Might even post a PESO after, who knows. Will definitely see you in
Sydney Christian, and Savage (and Boris did you get my reply?) ;-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Bob Sullivan]

I did enjoy it.  Very nice and I like the 2nd bud in the lower right,
kind of like an echo but showing things to come.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257
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> enjoy
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Re: GESO-Egret

[Bob Sullivan]

Me too on the flight shots, especially take-off,
plus the first of the series with crossed legs repeating the beak
across the neck.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Christian  wrote:
> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm
>>
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> Nice series, Bruce.  I like the flight shots the best.
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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[paul stenquist]

On May 27, 2009, at 5:40 PM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message -
From: "Bob W"
Subject: RE: OT - Oz is a big place.





We don't have size, we have Imperial Grandeur.



And we have Toronto's ego, so there.

William Robb



And Vancouver's cool.


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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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>>
>> Coming from a guy whose country would fit into our smallest province and 
>> still leave room for Toronto's ego.
>
> That's _our_ smallest province.
>

That must be why we are in such a shambles here.

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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W"
Subject: RE: OT - Oz is a big place.



>
> We don't have size, we have Imperial Grandeur.
>

And we have Toronto's ego, so there.

William Robb 



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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W"
Subject: RE: OT - Oz is a big place.


>
>> > Democracy happens.
>> >
>>
>> Actually, totalitarianism happens.
>> Democracy doesn't seem like a natural human reaction.
>>
>> William Robb
>
> How else could it have arisen? Imposed on us by parakeets? Taught to us by
> archangels? Read about it on a mysterious black monolith? Bestowed upon us
> by G W Bush? Dragged out of the jungle by orang utans and humped into us?
>
>

Something that kings and queens let us do so that we feel important?
Anyway, our democracies seem to be devolving back to totalitarian styles of 
rule.
Which makes me wonder which is the more natural style of governance.

William Robb



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Re: PESO 2009 - 078 - GDG

[Ken Waller]

Verey nice subject & composition. 
I'd like a slightly more OOF backround to make it nit proof.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 

Subject: PESO 2009 - 078 - GDG



One of the couple of exposures I made on this morning's quiet walk:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3348/3570105041_ee3f3a3231_o.jpg
078 - "Flower Glow" - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
ISO 100 @ f/4 @ 1/100 sec
 flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3570105041/

Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Ricehigh is at it again

[Ken Waller]

You guys seriously think those leaks about the K-7 were unintentional??? 
All of them???


Hard to say, but I'm suspicious, given that the latest issue of the usual 
photo mags have no mention of the K-7.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Luiz Felipe" 

Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again


You guys seriously think those leaks about the K-7 were unintentional??? 
All of them???


I'd rather think some of those were intended to make noise, keep the noise 
up, and keep the noise still higher. No doudbt they made a lot of noise.


No, I'm not taking any leaks as truth. But I think they're not so 
interested in identifying the leakers as the main ones are known and did 
it following orders.


LF

Mark Roberts escreveu:

Joseph McAllister wrote:

OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the 
'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been 
leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet.


I'm with you 100%!



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Re: Arrived in NC

[frank theriault]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> I'm now safely ensconced in "the cabin" (and roughing it by Cotty's
> definition: Only dial-up for Internet).

> But for now it's time for some food and beer and to put my feet up for a bit
> and try to get over this cold I've been fighting (sniffle).

That cabin's one of my favourite places in the world.  I envy you (but
not your cold).

Whatcha drinking?  Endo?

;-)

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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[Bob W]

Actually I think someone else was right, and I'm wrong. I now think it's a
barn owl because of the shape of the face.

Bob

> 
> Thanks Bob.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf 
> Of Bob W [p...@web-options.com]
> Sent: 27 May 2009 21:39
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: PESO: Owl in Flight
> 
> >
> > Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify
> > the species of owl?
> >
> > Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
> >
> > Large:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> 
> I think it's a male snowy owl (Nyctea Scandiaca).
> 
> Bob
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Arrived in NC

[Mark Roberts]

I'm now safely ensconced in "the cabin" (and roughing it by Cotty's 
definition: Only dial-up for Internet).


Scott, I ended up bringing my whole 645 kit: 645 body, two 120 inserts, 
45mm, 75mm and 200mm lenses. So I can shoot the 645 if anyone wants to 
borrow my 67 (or vice-versa). I also brought a 52mm polarizer because 
someone was looking for one. I brought much more gear than I can 
possibly use this year since I'm traveling by car this time and have 
extra storage space.


I'll be up before the sunrise tomorrow for photography and I expect to 
head to the mountain around noon. Then I'll have Landis phone Doug to 
remind him which weekend is the NPW ;-)


But for now it's time for some food and beer and to put my feet up for a 
bit and try to get over this cold I've been fighting (sniffle).


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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

Thanks Bob.

Regards,

John

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Sent: 27 May 2009 21:39
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Subject: RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

>
> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify
> the species of owl?
>
> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>
> Large:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
>
> Regards,
>

I think it's a male snowy owl (Nyctea Scandiaca).

Bob


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Re: PESO - Baldwin Downunder

[mike wilson]

Joseph McAllister wrote:

OK. The word that did not come to my addled brain before my fingers  
typed was...gradually, but quickly, pressed upon it...  :-)


my floppedupble...

and...  Mark's not home. He's at "the cabin".


Consider it unmarked.




On May 27, 2009, at 02:04 , mike wilson wrote:


 Joseph McAllister  wrote:


...the weight of the train is slowly, but quickly, pressed upon it...



Mark!



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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

No worries, I've left it well alone for now.

regards,

John

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Subject: Re: PESO: Owl in Flight

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM, John Whittingham  wrote:
> Thanks Dave, the blue sneakers never bothered me until you mentioned them, 
> now I feel like cloning out all the distractions lol.

Sorry.:-)

Dave
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J 
> Brooks [pentko...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 May 2009 18:08
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> Subject: Re: PESO: Owl in Flight
>
> Lovely shot there John.
>
> Clone out that blue pair of sneakers, and you have a winner.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM, John Whittingham  wrote:
>> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species of 
>> owl?
>>
>> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>>
>> Large:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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RE: PESO - Baldwin Downunder

[Bob W]

>  Bob W  wrote: 
> > > > > > Could end up as the closest thing to perpetual 
> motion we have
> > > > > > seen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8067672.stm
> > > > > 
> > > > > Good Lord, if you can't do that, you shouldn't be on a bike.
> > > > 
> > > > The whole point of motorcycle training here is to inculcate
> > > > anticipation in the rider.  Ideally, you shouldn't be in 
> > > the situation
> > > > where you have to swerve.  Vehicle control is taught in a 
> > > test needed
> > > > before you can actually ride on the road.  
> > > 
> > > Many things cannot be anticipated; the truck in front 
> starting to shed
> > > its load of topsoil, for example.  [...]
> > 
> > Here's the new bicycle test:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8066461.stm
> 
> Don't think I would have seen that coming.
> 

Me neither. Imagine if it had actually hit Boris - it might have knocked
some sense into him.

Bob


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Re: Ricehigh is at it again

[Ken Waller]

Check the as new prices of the A-1.4 X-S, 1.4 X-L & the A 2.0 x-L (none of 
which allow auto focus) and you can get a decent price for auto focus 
convertor, more than quite a few of the existing lenses. I'm not an lens 
specialist, but there can't be much more involved with the design & 
execution of an auto focus convertor.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" 

Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again




 Ken Waller  wrote:

More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u -  ine Pentax
teleconvertor that preserves auto focus.


Where's the profit in that?



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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[mike wilson]

William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"

Subject: Re: OT - Oz is a big place.





Size isn't everything, Frank.  No matter what people tell you.




Coming from a guy whose country would fit into our smallest province and 
still leave room for Toronto's ego.


That's _our_ smallest province.

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RE: PESO - Baldwin Downunder

[Bob W]

> > Care to explain why it's in any way challenging?
> 
> see later post.
> > My take on "no equivalent" is that the other tests should 
> include it,
> > and that it really ought not to be a known point; the 
> better test is a
> > surprise obstacle appearing at a set distance.
> 
> That already exists in the test.  An examiner stands in front 
> of the rider and signals them to make an emergency stop.
> 

or a pedestrian who's dropped his badger in the road.

Bob


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Re: Ilford "Gold Fibre Silk" inkjet paper

[mike wilson]

Mark Roberts wrote:

William Robb wrote:



From: "Mark Roberts"


I'll have to give it a try. I wonder if they have a profile for the 
2400?

I'm not equipped to make my own.


I'd be willing to bet you could eyeball a profile with little trouble.


As long as you have the software to create ICC profiles you can indeed
do it that way.


I just save them as a paper profile in the printer driver.
Am I missing something?



I dunno. Depends on your printer driver, I suppose. Whether it's
saving a batch of proprietary settings or generating a true ICC
profile. Save one and then go look in
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color and see if a new .icc file
shows up there.

Of course, what works, works. But it's often nice to know what's going
on behind the scenes.


The Epson control interface allows you to save a "profile" for a 
particular paper but it does not appear anywhere as a *.ICC file.  Under 
the colour management tab, you can (in manual colour control) add new 
profiles and the add button brings up the list of *.ICC files in 
C:\Windows\\color so I assume that you can add a file to that 
directory and then use it by choosing it from the add dialogue.


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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[mike wilson]

frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM, mike wilson  wrote:



Size isn't everything, Frank.  No matter what people tell you.



Those are the words of a small man...


Inbetween my ears, maybe.

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RE: PESO 2009 - 077 - GDG

[Bob W]

> 
> Wandering in New York City on a sultry night in Summer 2002, I made  
> this exposure with a Contax Tix camera. I'd processed it once 
> before,  
> but I found it again yesterday while scanning the roll of film and  
> thought it might be interesting in both color and monochrome 
> renderings.
> 
> BW:
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3570532460_23b682696f_o.jpg
>   flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3570532460/
> 
> Color:
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3569719895_9a54bbe968_o.jpg
>   flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3569719895/
> 
> 077 - "St. James Hotel" - New York 2002
> Contax Tix on Fuji F100 film
> 
> Comments always appreciated.
> 
>

I think I remember it from before. A very nice shot, full of atmosphere.
Works in both B&W and colour.

Bob


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RE: OT - Oz is a big place.

[Bob W]

> >
> > Size isn't everything, Frank.  No matter what people tell you.
> >
> 
> Coming from a guy whose country would fit into our smallest 
> province and 
> still leave room for Toronto's ego.
> 
> William Robb 
> 

We don't have size, we have Imperial Grandeur.

Bob


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RE: OT - Oz is a big place.

[Bob W]

> 
> > Rob!  good to see you de-lurk, if only for a moment.  See 
> you in Sydney.
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Yes it's a temporary de-lurk at the moment, I start a live studio
> re-fit tomorrow so won't be able to do much but tread water for the
> next couple of weeks.
> 
> Might even post a PESO after, who knows. Will definitely see you in
> Sydney Christian, and Savage (and Boris did you get my reply?) ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
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> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10
> 

Har! Nice to hear from you again!

Bob


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RE: OT - Oz is a big place.

[Bob W]

> > Democracy happens.
> >
> 
> Actually, totalitarianism happens.
> Democracy doesn't seem like a natural human reaction.
> 
> William Robb 

How else could it have arisen? Imposed on us by parakeets? Taught to us by
archangels? Read about it on a mysterious black monolith? Bestowed upon us
by G W Bush? Dragged out of the jungle by orang utans and humped into us?

Bob


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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[Bob W]

> 
> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify 
> the species of owl?
> 
> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
> 
> Large:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
> 
> Regards,
> 

I think it's a male snowy owl (Nyctea Scandiaca).

Bob


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Re: GESO-Egret

[David J Brooks]

-474 and o480 stand out fore me Bruce.

Dave

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
> Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
> that golden glow at the end of the day.
>
> I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
> some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
> few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
> overall.
>
> After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
> the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
> ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
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RE: GESO-Egret

[Bob W]

> I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
> Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
> that golden glow at the end of the day.
> 
> I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
> some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
> few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
> overall.
> 
> After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
> the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
> ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce

That's very good, with a witty touch at the end. I think you could edit it
down a bit and still carry it off as a sequence.

Bob


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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[David J Brooks]

Very nice. Did you place those drops your self.:-)

Dave

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257
>
> enjoy
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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Luiz Felipe]

Simple

LF

(actually, very good image, Doug ;-))

Doug Brewer escreveu:

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257

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Re: PESO: Owl in Flight

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM, John Whittingham  wrote:
> Thanks Dave, the blue sneakers never bothered me until you mentioned them, 
> now I feel like cloning out all the distractions lol.

Sorry.:-)

Dave
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J 
> Brooks [pentko...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 May 2009 18:08
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> Subject: Re: PESO: Owl in Flight
>
> Lovely shot there John.
>
> Clone out that blue pair of sneakers, and you have a winner.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM, John Whittingham  wrote:
>> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species of 
>> owl?
>>
>> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>>
>> Large:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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Re: GESO-Egret

[Luiz Felipe]

Great set, Bruce! Make mine #0474 or #0479, both very very good.

LF

Bruce Dayton escreveu:

I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
that golden glow at the end of the day.

I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
overall.

After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!


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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Jack Davis]

Nice! Do away with the white spot in the lower right.
If mine, I'd crop a smidg off the bottom.

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - simplicity...
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> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257
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Re: GESO-Egret

[Jack Davis]

Bruce,
Without question, the first would be my choice of the group. Leg and neck 
positions are great. Second might be the shot immediately upon taking flight 
from the limb.
You, obviously, weren't able to get much feather detail due to distance and the 
'hot' white. As possible, I'd crop to severely limit the presence of the limb 
except in the shot of it taking flight.

Hope helpful,

Jack

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> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: GESO-Egret
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:04 AM
> I had the fortune of being in a good
> place at a good time - this
> Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the
> light was
> that golden glow at the end of the day.
> 
> I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can
> give me
> some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick
> one or a
> few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what
> you think
> overall.
> 
> After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at
> the top of
> the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
> ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm
> 
> -- 
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> Bruce
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Re: PESO 2009 - 078 - GDG

[Luiz Felipe]

Very good photo Godfrey. Those walks are really interesting...

LF

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One of the couple of exposures I made on this morning's quiet walk:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3348/3570105041_ee3f3a3231_o.jpg
078 - "Flower Glow" - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8
ISO 100 @ f/4 @ 1/100 sec
 flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3570105041/

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Re: PESO - Casual Exercise

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks for the comments - around here, sandals are very common, just
not for jogging.

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 12:27:30 PM, you wrote:

LF> Very good photo, Bruce... enjoyed very much the composition and the 
LF> moment. About the footwear, you can find it almost anywhere in BR, at 
LF> least in the warm part - near me, these days.

LF> LF

LF> Bruce Dayton escreveu:
>> Father and Son out for some exercise - loved the footwear of the
>> father.
>> 
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>> ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/8, Handheld
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0509.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
>> 
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Re: PESO - Waiting for the Parade

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On 5/27/09, Luiz Felipe  wrote:
> Very interesting Scott - at first the format looked strange, but after a
> while I felt ok with it. Just out of curiosity, how did the parade go? Any
> interesting stuff?

Thanks, Luiz.  The New Cumberland Memorial Day parade is a pretty
standard parade.  They lead off with a police car, followed by
servicemen, VFW members, etc.  Then the local politicians, a few
bands, community groups, boy scouts, ball teams, church groups, you
name it.  The Shriners with their "Police Car", clowns on scooters,
synchronized go-carts and sports car unit were almost their own little
parade within the parade.  Then fire trucks.  Lots and lots of fire
trucks.  There must have been trucks from 5 or 6 nearby fire stations.
 I think they do it out of fear that the politicians at the front of
the parade are questioning their funding.  The most interesting
vehicles were some old sports cars, a series-III or IV Metropolitan (I
can never tell) and some really old fire engines from the PA National
Fire Museum.  Those are always a treat, as the drivers and crew are
wearing period clothing and they make a point of really showing off
the aerial ladder truck.

Christie took a bunch of pictures.  I'll post a link once she uploads them.

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Re: OT PESO - Juggernaut

[Luiz Felipe]

Very good image David! I could almost feel the movement ;-)

LF

David Savage escreveu:

G'day All

Speaking of trains:



Direct link (~100kb)



EvilDCam700, Smegma 24-70mm f2.8 @ 62mm, f32 @ 1/5, ISO 100, handheld.

Iron ore train taken at a level crossing. Bloody awesome being so
close to that behemoth.

We got some funny looks from the guy in the car on the other side of
the level crossing after it had passed.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT - Oz is a big place.

[Doug Brewer]

Bob Sullivan wrote:

Rob,
Good to see a post from you.
Lynn and I think of you often when we talk of Sydney.
And I still love the Voigtlander 125 you introduced me to.
Hope your little guy is creating much joy in your life.
Regards,  Bob S.


he has offspring now. His little guy is forgotten.

(welcome back, Rob)

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Re: PESO - The Gossip Club

[Luiz Felipe]

Interesting pic indeed - but I'd possibly crop it to exclude the 
slightly OOF branches in the bottom and the leftmost bird.


LF

Bruce Dayton escreveu:

This shot gave me a chuckle - seeing them all sitting there together
- sort of like the scene from Bye Bye Birdie - Telephone Hour

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Re: PESO - Casual Exercise

[Luiz Felipe]

Very good photo, Bruce... enjoyed very much the composition and the 
moment. About the footwear, you can find it almost anywhere in BR, at 
least in the warm part - near me, these days.


LF

Bruce Dayton escreveu:

Father and Son out for some exercise - loved the footwear of the
father.

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Re: PESO - Red Winged Blackbird - I think...

[Luiz Felipe]

Very interesting Bruce! Since I'm with the laptop I had to scroll a 
little to view the bottom of the image, and felt you could crop it out, 
so the brach starts at the corner of the image.


Bruce Dayton escreveu:

If I am wrong, please correct me.

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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

Thanks Dave, the blue sneakers never bothered me until you mentioned them, now 
I feel like cloning out all the distractions lol.

Regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks 
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Lovely shot there John.

Clone out that blue pair of sneakers, and you have a winner.

Dave

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM, John Whittingham  wrote:
> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species of 
> owl?
>
> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>
> Large:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
>
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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Joseph McAllister]

Much better. Nicely composed shot!

On May 27, 2009, at 12:13 , Doug Brewer wrote:


Bruce Dayton wrote:

Hello Doug,
I do like the composition, but I think it needs a little more
contrast - other than that, very nice!


good idea. how about now?

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257


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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Bruce Dayton]

Yup, like that better.  Nice shot there!

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DB> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Hello Doug,
>> 
>> I do like the composition, but I think it needs a little more
>> contrast - other than that, very nice!
>> 

DB> good idea. how about now?

DB> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257

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Re: PESO - Waiting for the Parade

[Luiz Felipe]

Very interesting Scott - at first the format looked strange, but after a 
while I felt ok with it. Just out of curiosity, how did the parade go? 
Any interesting stuff?


LF

Scott Loveless escreveu:

Took this one yesterday while sitting on the curb waiting for the
parade.  
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/V3B_y2PFHlMEGVrB_vA3WQ?feat=directlink

K100D, FA50/1.4, hotter than it should have been in freaking May.



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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

Hi Jack,  thanks. I must admit I used to carry all kinds of kit, until one day 
I figured, most of it never gets used. A couple of years ago I would have had a 
bag containing up to 8 lenses! just got too much. Now I make do with whatever 
I've decided was enough before I left the house.

Regards,

John

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You 'made do' very well, John.
I used to carry everything I had with me..with the help of my Sherpa wife. Got 
to be a drag (almost literally), so now I leave the 'mother' bag home or in the 
rig and carry a small bag with only enough room for a second body, one lens, an 
extra battery and card.
Am often glad I have the extra lens.

Jack

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> From: John Whittingham 
> Subject: RE: PESO: Owl in Flight
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 9:02 AM
> Thanks Jack, I was on my way to a
> wildlife reserve when I spotted the event, only had the 300
> and 16-50 with me so had to make do. A lot of the shots were
> of the upper body and heads of the birds, too close with the
> 300, so I thought I'd go for some BIF shots. Should have
> packed a 70-200/2.8 or better still a DA*200/2.8 if I had
> one.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> 
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
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> On Behalf Of Jack Davis [jdavi...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 27 May 2009 16:53
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> Subject: Re: PESO: Owl in Flight
>
> Is truly a Barn Owl (I looked it up). Very well caught
> pan.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, John Whittingham 
> wrote:
>
> > From: John Whittingham 
> > Subject: PESO: Owl in Flight
> > To: "pdml@pdml.net"
> 
> > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:49 AM
> > Taken at a recent falconry
> > demonstration, can anyone identify the species of
> owl?
> >
> > Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
> >
> > Large:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715&size=lg
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
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Re: GESO-Egret

[frank theriault]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:

>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm
>
> I really like that the bird's body is the same angle (or close to it)
> as the branch's.
>
> Again, nice composition.

I didn't even notice that it was a series.  I was only commenting on
the first image above.

The whole series is wonderful!

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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Doug Brewer]

frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257

enjoy


I did enjoy it.

Beautiful!

cheers,
frank





thanks, Frank.

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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Doug Brewer]

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Hello Doug,

I do like the composition, but I think it needs a little more
contrast - other than that, very nice!



good idea. how about now?

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RE: PESO: Owl in Flight

[John Whittingham]

Thanks Bob.

Regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan 
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Subject: Re: PESO: Owl in Flight

John,
Beautiful catch.
It almost looks like a flying RV with that big body.
Regards, Bob S.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM, John Whittingham  wrote:
> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species of 
> owl?
>
> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>
> Large:
>
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>
> Regards,
>
> John
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RE: GESO-Egret

[John Whittingham]

I really like the dynamics of the sequence, especially the launch and flight, 
lovely.

Regards, 

John.

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton 
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Subject: GESO-Egret

I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
that golden glow at the end of the day.

I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
overall.

After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!


Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm

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Re: Another one bites the dust

[Brendan MacRae]

Kodak Ektar 100 is your friend. Now available in 120.

-Adam


Hmmm. They've brought back the Ektar moniker, huh? Interesting...I should like 
to shoot and scan. I wonder...

-Brendan


  

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Re: GESO-Egret

[Joseph McAllister]

Very enjoyable. Leave the sequence - it's fascinating to study the  
wings, tail, and neck throughout.



On May 27, 2009, at 11:04 , Bruce Dayton wrote:


I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
that golden glow at the end of the day.

I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
overall.

After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!


Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.ht


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

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Re: So I've been thinking ...

[Joseph McAllister]

We had this discussion. The patent in question was a modification to  
the existing K mount to facilitate the use of both old and new weather  
sealing rings in the current and future DA lenses. You'll probably be  
able to see it in the K7, in that the camera body's mount plate is  
slightly larger in diameter, and the outer edge is chamfered to  
accommodate the weather sealing band found in the two new "kit"  
lenses. It's a flat band, not a round ring like the earlier lenses  
have. old  O  versus  new  [] in cross section. Camera body mount will  
be  /  vs   |  at it's outer edge. Band will be slightly bend  
when in contact with mount, creating pressure at the sealing point by  
deflection, while maintaining weather sealing by compression with old  
mount plate and sealing rings. Lenses without any weather sealing  
component will still seat normally.


Or something like that.  :-)

P.S. I just looked at my 17-70 SDM with a magnifier and it's sealing  
ring is more like  ___/°/  in that the sealing edge is at a 45° angle  
to the plane of the lens' mount plate.  The 18-250 has no sealing ring  
at all, nor does the 31 ltd., but the DA* 200 has the same 45° rubber  
as the 17-70 SDM.



On May 27, 2009, at 09:00 , Nick Wright wrote:


Uh oh, watch out!

Anyway.

I seem to recall something recently about a Pentax patent detailing a
lens mount with two bayonets.

And now we have Pentax maybe putting full-frame 35mm digital lenses
back in their roadmap.

So I was thinking, would it be possible that the new Pentax 645 has a
mount that allows you to attach both 645 and 35mm FF lenses without an
adaptor?

And then I thought, the camera could automatically sense which kind of
lens was on the camera. If a 645 lens was attached the sensor was in
"645 mode" but if a 35mm lens was attached then it reduced itself to a
24x35mm frame and appropriate resolution.

Would that be possible? Surely it would be. The better question would
be, is it feasible?


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Pentaxian

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Re: PESO - simplicity...

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Doug,

I do like the composition, but I think it needs a little more
contrast - other than that, very nice!

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DB> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257

DB> enjoy

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Re: PESO - simplicity...

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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257
>
> enjoy

I did enjoy it.

Beautiful!

cheers,
frank



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Re: GESO-Egret

[Doug Brewer]

Bruce Dayton wrote:

I had the fortune of being in a good place at a good time - this
Egret (pretty sure it is) was just waiting for me and the light was
that golden glow at the end of the day.

I have posted a sequence - and am hoping that you all can give me
some ideas on what to do with it - Keep a sequence, or pick one or a
few - any suggestions would be appreciated, as well as what you think
overall.

After clicking on the link, just click the 'Next' link at the top of
the page to see the next one.  Thanks in advance!


Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @300mm
ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/8, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0469.htm



I like this one best, but could see the series framed in sequence as 
effective.


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PESO - simplicity...

[Doug Brewer]

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1257

enjoy

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Re: PESO: Owl in Flight

[Bruce Dayton]

I made the mistake of looking at the smaller one - went back to look
at the bigger one - very nice!  Much better than the small one.

Great job on that.

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:28:15 AM, you wrote:

TB> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:49 AM, John Whittingham  
wrote:
>> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species of 
>> owl?

TB> Yow, that's an outstanding shot!  -T

>>
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>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
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>> Regards,
>>
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Re: PESO: Owl in Flight

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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:49 AM, John Whittingham  wrote:
> Taken at a recent falconry demonstration, can anyone identify the species of 
> owl?

Yow, that's an outstanding shot!  -T

>
> Pentax K20D DA*300/4 @ f/5.6, 1/2500 sec, ISO 640
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9255715
>
> Large:
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>
> Regards,
>
> John
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Re: PESO 2009 - 077 - GDG

[Tim Bray]

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> Wandering in New York City on a sultry night in Summer 2002, I made this
> exposure with a Contax Tix camera. I'd processed it once before, but I found
> it again yesterday while scanning the roll of film and thought it might be
> interesting in both color and monochrome renderings.

Immensely better in color IMHO.  Cool shot!  -Tim

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