Re: PESO: On the run
Paul, both this shot and the previous one you posted (on the roller coaster?!) seem to have a measure of noise in them. At ISO 400 it is somewhat unexpected. Anything you have to say on the matter? Aesthetically, I've nothing to say - you're as steady as ever. In all respects. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9277895&size=lg > > DA* 60-250, K20D, f5.6 @ 1/1500th, 220mm, ISO 400 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
Wonderful gallery, Cory. I should consider way more seriously next year's GFM. Cotty, your son is growin' up very rapidly. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Cory Waters wrote: > Gallery Once A Year: > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: got the K7 in my hot little hands
Doug, Would be nice to see some photos taken with "natural" color setting. I did not like colors in samples from K7 I've seen so far - no subtle gradation, very 'monochromatic' colors to me - and I believe/hope it was because of the "bright" setting. The best would be some sample picture with trees or grass, with rather low contrast of the scene:)) VGA size can be enough. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > For a few hours on Saturday I did my best to find something to dislike about > the K7, but I was unsuccessful. > > Today I ran through some of the files, and I will be posting a few, making > certain to follow the rules given me- VGA size and nothing over ISO1600. > This has firmware version 0.35 on it, so we're still talking pre-production > here. > > Even so, it's producing some outstanding stuff (well, as outstanding as I > ever get...) and the metering is lust-worthy. > > If anyone has questions regarding handling, buttons, etc, let me know and > I'll do my best to answer them. > > Doug > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
'Official' K-7 Video from Ned Bunnel (still beta firmware)
As well as a few comments on the camera operations in Video mode. Quite interesting IMO. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-takes-k-7-video.html -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
You should. Even better, bracket the experience with at least a few days doing a mini-tour. stan On Jun 1, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Bob W wrote: Gallery Once A Year: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy Nice gallery. I'd like to come there some time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not Home from GFM Yet, but
One of the special moments this year, not yet mentioned, was a special tribute to Don by many of his close friends and associates. Our own Mark and Doug were among those anointed as speakers and they and the others said well what many of us feel about this wonderful gentleman. stan On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: We too are still on the road back from GFM. We stopped in the Smokeys last evening and waited for sundown at the first turnout north of Newfound Gap. (A tip from a GFM presentation a year or two ago.) The weather was cooperative and the view was good, but we were too early. We waited for 1 1/2 hours, but were still 45 minutes too early. We were both hungry and it was after 8 PM. Will plan better next year. Today we tramped across Kentucky from I75 to I65, on the aledgedly 'scenic' road thru the Daniel Boone forest. We caught the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green just before it closed and moved on to Indiana. Chicago tomorrow. The gathering at GFM is very special, thanks largely to the environment that Don Nelson has fostered over the past 20 years. He has had some bad health breaks in the past few years, but he continues to hold us together with this wonderful experience. He's an amazing fellow, accomplished photographer, humorist, consumate gentleman, and thoughtful host. I wish all of you can have the opportunity to meet him and experience some of his wise advice. His many friends, old and new, keep returning to the mountain to share in the banquets he prepares for us. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:47 PM, wrote: thought I'd just pop in to say GFM was terrific, and we're going back next year. I'll post pics and comments when we get home. We tramped around Nashville, TN today revisiting ole'Broadway. Tomorrow we're headed for a little cabin in Giant City State Park in Makanda, Il, then home. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off-List: got the K7 in my hot little hands
you protester you... On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> We hate you! >> Sweet deal with the K7. >> Pentax is taking care of you and the pdml. >> Bob > > stop the hate... > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Off-List: got the K7 in my hot little hands
> -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Doug Brewer > Sent: Tuesday, 2 June 2009 11:00 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Off-List: got the K7 in my hot little hands > > Bob Sullivan wrote: > > We hate you! > > Sweet deal with the K7. > > Pentax is taking care of you and the pdml. > > Bob > > stop the hate... We man love you Doug. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not Home from GFM Yet, but
We too are still on the road back from GFM. We stopped in the Smokeys last evening and waited for sundown at the first turnout north of Newfound Gap. (A tip from a GFM presentation a year or two ago.) The weather was cooperative and the view was good, but we were too early. We waited for 1 1/2 hours, but were still 45 minutes too early. We were both hungry and it was after 8 PM. Will plan better next year. Today we tramped across Kentucky from I75 to I65, on the aledgedly 'scenic' road thru the Daniel Boone forest. We caught the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green just before it closed and moved on to Indiana. Chicago tomorrow. The gathering at GFM is very special, thanks largely to the environment that Don Nelson has fostered over the past 20 years. He has had some bad health breaks in the past few years, but he continues to hold us together with this wonderful experience. He's an amazing fellow, accomplished photographer, humorist, consumate gentleman, and thoughtful host. I wish all of you can have the opportunity to meet him and experience some of his wise advice. His many friends, old and new, keep returning to the mountain to share in the banquets he prepares for us. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:47 PM, wrote: > thought I'd just pop in to say GFM was terrific, and we're going back next > year. I'll post pics and comments when we get home. > > We tramped around Nashville, TN today revisiting ole'Broadway. Tomorrow > we're headed for a little cabin in Giant City State Park in Makanda, Il, then > home. > > Cheers, Christine > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off-List: got the K7 in my hot little hands
Bob Sullivan wrote: We hate you! Sweet deal with the K7. Pentax is taking care of you and the pdml. Bob stop the hate... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
Thanks for sharing, Cory. Love the longer hair. But listen, you are not going to get away with showing us last years photos! It's 2009, even in NC, even on GFM. On Jun 1, 2009, at 15:44 , Cory Waters wrote: Gallery Once A Year: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:44:09 -0400 Cory Waters wrote: > Gallery Once A Year: > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy great gallery, enjoyed going through that. could even make out *most* of the people... thanks for sharing. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO 2009 - Greek Festival, San Jose - GDG
A small set of street photos from the Greek Festival at Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church in San Jose: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157619035288055/ All with Panasonic G1 + Olympus ZD 25/2.8 or Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/ 1.4 lenses. Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
Cory, Good gallery! Nice flavor for GFM and some fine shots. Next time remove the twig and leave just the leaf on the bolder. (So much for 'found view' - Tony Sweet would do it!) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Cory Waters wrote: > Gallery Once A Year: > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Geraniums
Rick, I love the flowers, so sharp and crisp with translucent blossoms, but the roof and void to the left is problematic. Maybe that's where the copy goes! ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Our hotel outside Florence had these growing in a window box, over a red tile > roof. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9273917&size=lg > > (K10D, DA 16-45) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Feet
Thanks Bob. The lens and I have become inseparable. It's a gem. Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: One of them is too cool to scream? Fun photo Paul. I like that lens and how you use it. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Paul Stenquist > wrote: DA* 60-250, f6.7 @ 1/1500, ISO 400, 60mm. Continuous autofocus on K20D. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9278935&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
Thanks Paul, If you'd seen the winning images, you wouldn't be surprised at all. The leafs on a rock shot did get a "dis"honorable mention in the program and I was pretty proud of that. CW paul stenquist wrote: Some nice shots. I'm surprised you didn't earn at least an honorable mention in the contest. We need a caption for the group shot! Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Cory Waters wrote: Gallery Once A Year: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Helen Hopper
Needs a taller tripod... On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > A "Nikonic" Helen Hopper.;) > > Jack > > --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Scott Loveless wrote: > >> From: Scott Loveless >> Subject: PESO - Helen Hopper >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:24 AM >> The inimitable Helen Hopper at work. >> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qkWtQfj4jHed6TLgPOKLPw?feat=directlink >> K100D, FA50 and all that jazz. >> >> -- >> Scott Loveless >> Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 >> http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Home from GFM
Not enough deer butt in that one... On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Cory Waters >> >> Forgot an a there... Stef is A natural. REALLY good mushroom shots. >> To begin quoting from the weekend: >> There can never be enough rump in your images - Doug (who else?) >> And calling an image "Sweet" is now a powerful dis. > > And don't forget, "the fence around the deer is electric." > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Off-List: got the K7 in my hot little hands
We hate you! Sweet deal with the K7. Pentax is taking care of you and the pdml. Bob On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > For a few hours on Saturday I did my best to find something to dislike about > the K7, but I was unsuccessful. > > Today I ran through some of the files, and I will be posting a few, making > certain to follow the rules given me- VGA size and nothing over ISO1600. > This has firmware version 0.35 on it, so we're still talking pre-production > here. > > Even so, it's producing some outstanding stuff (well, as outstanding as I > ever get...) and the metering is lust-worthy. > > If anyone has questions regarding handling, buttons, etc, let me know and > I'll do my best to answer them. > > Doug > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Feet
One of them is too cool to scream? Fun photo Paul. I like that lens and how you use it. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > DA* 60-250, f6.7 @ 1/1500, ISO 400, 60mm. Continuous autofocus on K20D. > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9278935&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Not Home from GFM Yet, but
thought I'd just pop in to say GFM was terrific, and we're going back next year. I'll post pics and comments when we get home. We tramped around Nashville, TN today revisiting ole'Broadway. Tomorrow we're headed for a little cabin in Giant City State Park in Makanda, Il, then home. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CODEC's for Pentax DNG thumbnails
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 01:40:11PM -0700, Walter Hamler scripsit: > I downloaded the codec from the Pentax site and it gives me thumpnails > for my PEF's, but not the DNG's that I have. Are there any solutions > out there that anyone knows abount? This will be for Vista and PSE 7. DNGs *contain* thumbnails, and generally also a full size (but lousy quality) JPEG preview image. I have no idea how to solve this on Vista, I'm afraid; just wanting to note that it's a problem of getting the program to extract the thumbnails, rather than to generate them. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:42:02 -0400, you wrote: >Some nice shots. I'm surprised you didn't earn at least an honorable >mention in the contest. We need a caption for the group shot! He probably would have if he'd chosen different shots to enter. (Sorry, Cory). -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax repair service question
I've had great luck with Pentax Colorado repairs. They've fixed a number of cameras flashes and lenses for me. Prices were reasonable and repairs were excellent. Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Hey kids! I've got a couple auto-focus film bodies in need of service and was thinking about sending them back to Pentax. Anyone have some experience with out-of-warranty repairs at Pentax vs. the other guys (KEH, Essex, etc.)? I've checked their list and the *ist is still on it. The PZ-1 will have to go somewhere else. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax repair service question
Hey kids! I've got a couple auto-focus film bodies in need of service and was thinking about sending them back to Pentax. Anyone have some experience with out-of-warranty repairs at Pentax vs. the other guys (KEH, Essex, etc.)? I've checked their list and the *ist is still on it. The PZ-1 will have to go somewhere else. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
Some nice shots. I'm surprised you didn't earn at least an honorable mention in the contest. We need a caption for the group shot! Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Cory Waters wrote: Gallery Once A Year: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG
I like the 2nd & 3rd, the 1st not so much. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: Re: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG I like the first and the third; the reflections in the first are very intriguing, as is the composition. I like the whimsy of the third. The second one doesn't spin my motor. Is that a special effect or some very localized mist? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG To: "SeePhoto Talk" , "DUG" , "PAW Picture-A-Week project" , "PDML List" , baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:56 PM from this morning's walk: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3582789995_4864f0a8c7_o.jpg 081 "Wild Reflection" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789995/ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3582789785_d2f72e58ca_o.jpg 082 "Blooming" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/800 sec flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789785/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3582789601_3bf61a9d29_o.jpg 083 "Traffic" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789601/ Comments always appreciated. enjoy, Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
How about a key to put names to faces? On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 06:50:00PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote: > I can put up a full-res version of the group shot if you guys want to > download it. > CW > > > Cory Waters wrote: >> Gallery Once A Year: >> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 >> >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
Cory Waters wrote: Gallery Once A Year: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Nice shots. Goddamitt I gotta get down there one of these years... -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
got the K7 in my hot little hands
For a few hours on Saturday I did my best to find something to dislike about the K7, but I was unsuccessful. Today I ran through some of the files, and I will be posting a few, making certain to follow the rules given me- VGA size and nothing over ISO1600. This has firmware version 0.35 on it, so we're still talking pre-production here. Even so, it's producing some outstanding stuff (well, as outstanding as I ever get...) and the metering is lust-worthy. If anyone has questions regarding handling, buttons, etc, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. Doug -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
On 1/6/09, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: >Gallery Once A Year: >http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy Great job Cory - excellent. We're sat at Newark airport waiting for BA flight home and am on a mediocre 3G card connection on the Macbook as there's no free wi-fi like there is at Charlotte. Happy memories :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GOAY: GFM
> > Gallery Once A Year: > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy > Nice gallery. I'd like to come there some time. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
I can put up a full-res version of the group shot if you guys want to download it. CW Cory Waters wrote: Gallery Once A Year: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GOAY: GFM
On 6/1/09, Cory Waters wrote: > Gallery Once A Year: > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/8409204_ggmwR#552134882_ZdcSy Very nice, Cory. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GOAY: GFM
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Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Nice to know that some folks appreciate my blather. :-) I hope they've called your plane by now, though methinks it'll be another 2.5 hours before you depart. Bon Voyage. Safe trip. We will all be looking forward to the video after your return once you've edited out the stuck out tongues and raised fingers of solidarity. Joe On Jun 1, 2009, at 15:27 , Cotty wrote: On 1/6/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: This discussion has triggered my earliest digital camera memories, back when TV studios were still using tubes to image. < SNIP > Joseph that was a fascinating read, thanks mate. -- Cheers, Cotty (sat in Terminal B near Gate 67 waiting for the 9pm redeye to London) If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Agreed. Fabulous stuff. Thanks for sharing. Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Cotty wrote: On 1/6/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: This discussion has triggered my earliest digital camera memories, back when TV studios were still using tubes to image. My camera was about the size of the Hubble, flew in orbits between 250 and 175 miles depending on requirements, and could image items on earth as small as 40 inches (one meter +). In 1976. By the time I left the project in 1987, it could image items as small as a loaf of sliced American bread. Some said as small as a golf ball, but that's a contrast thing, not resolution. You could tell if someone had a hat or helmet on, and if their shirt was long sleeved or short. The sensor consisted of three overlapping strips of CCD sensor about 2" long and 1/4 inch wide. _ __ _ Like that. They could image either in "still mode" or "strip mode". In either case they were capturing the image as it crossed the sensors and the satellite cruised by overhead. In strip mode you could take in a 10 to 60 mile wide area (vertical or oblique) by as long as you wanted. The bird was stabilized and pointed (positioned) quite rapidly if need be by a series of Control Motion Gyros (CMG) that had brakes on each. CMGs were spinning rapidly, and to reposition the satellite the brakes were applied to one or more of the CMGs for a bit to start the motion, then again to the opposite CMG to stop it. Six CMGs were employed, in various orientations, though I believe three were primary, and the other three were cut in as backups if one of the primaries failed. Because it was in space, and weightless, it didn't take as much energy as you think, but you were starting and stopping several tons, and the laws of inertia still applied. The latest generations are still up there, so always smile and wave when you look up at the clouds Joseph that was a fascinating read, thanks mate. -- Cheers, Cotty (sat in Terminal B near Gate 67 waiting for the 9pm redeye to London) ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Feet
DA* 60-250, f6.7 @ 1/1500, ISO 400, 60mm. Continuous autofocus on K20D. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9278935&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
On 1/6/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: >This discussion has triggered my earliest digital camera memories, >back when TV studios were still using tubes to image. > >My camera was about the size of the Hubble, flew in orbits between 250 >and 175 miles depending on requirements, and could image items on >earth as small as 40 inches (one meter +). In 1976. By the time I left >the project in 1987, it could image items as small as a loaf of sliced >American bread. Some said as small as a golf ball, but that's a >contrast thing, not resolution. You could tell if someone had a hat or >helmet on, and if their shirt was long sleeved or short. > >The sensor consisted of three overlapping strips of CCD sensor about >2" long and 1/4 inch wide. >_ > __ _ > >Like that. They could image either in "still mode" or "strip mode". In >either case they were capturing the image as it crossed the sensors >and the satellite cruised by overhead. In strip mode you could take in >a 10 to 60 mile wide area (vertical or oblique) by as long as you >wanted. The bird was stabilized and pointed (positioned) quite rapidly >if need be by a series of Control Motion Gyros (CMG) that had brakes >on each. CMGs were spinning rapidly, and to reposition the satellite >the brakes were applied to one or more of the CMGs for a bit to start >the motion, then again to the opposite CMG to stop it. Six CMGs were >employed, in various orientations, though I believe three were >primary, and the other three were cut in as backups if one of the >primaries failed. Because it was in space, and weightless, it didn't >take as much energy as you think, but you were starting and stopping >several tons, and the laws of inertia still applied. > >The latest generations are still up there, so always smile and wave >when you look up at the clouds Joseph that was a fascinating read, thanks mate. -- Cheers, Cotty (sat in Terminal B near Gate 67 waiting for the 9pm redeye to London) ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
From: "Desjardins, Steve" Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably why they are still gun shy about FF. I expect the fact that none of their new lenses support "full frame" may have more to do with it. Bringing out a camera with a 36x24 sensor would mean abandoning or drastically re-engineering ALL of the current lens lineup. I just don't see them doing that without really compelling evidence there's a ton of profit to be made thereby. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Home from GFM
From: Cory Waters Forgot an a there... Stef is A natural. REALLY good mushroom shots. To begin quoting from the weekend: There can never be enough rump in your images - Doug (who else?) And calling an image "Sweet" is now a powerful dis. And don't forget, "the fence around the deer is electric." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CODEC's for Pentax DNG thumbnails
Gee, thanks, Adam. That was easy. Walt On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > You'll need a DNG codec from Adobe. > > -Adam > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: >> I downloaded the codec from the Pentax site and it gives me thumpnails >> for my PEF's, but not the DNG's that I have. >> Are there any solutions out there that anyone knows abount? This will >> be for Vista and PSE 7. >> >> Walt >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Helen Hopper
A "Nikonic" Helen Hopper.;) Jack --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Scott Loveless wrote: > From: Scott Loveless > Subject: PESO - Helen Hopper > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:24 AM > The inimitable Helen Hopper at work. > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qkWtQfj4jHed6TLgPOKLPw?feat=directlink > K100D, FA50 and all that jazz. > > -- > Scott Loveless > Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Geraniums
You picked the best composition in view of the heavy, somewhat distracting background. Beautiful blossoms! Jack --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Rick Womer wrote: > From: Rick Womer > Subject: PESO - Geraniums > To: "Pentax List" > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 12:10 PM > > Our hotel outside Florence had these growing in a window > box, over a red tile roof. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9273917&size=lg > > (K10D, DA 16-45) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Helen Hopper
Partial portrait.:-0 Nice shot and good back ground. Dave On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > The inimitable Helen Hopper at work. > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qkWtQfj4jHed6TLgPOKLPw?feat=directlink > K100D, FA50 and all that jazz. > > -- > Scott Loveless > Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Home from GFM
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > Ted > > ps I also ended up bringing home more beer than I took. Your doing it wrong then.:-) Glad you enjoyed your self. I'll get back there one day. Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
This discussion has triggered my earliest digital camera memories,
back when TV studios were still using tubes to image.
My camera was about the size of the Hubble, flew in orbits between 250
and 175 miles depending on requirements, and could image items on
earth as small as 40 inches (one meter +). In 1976. By the time I left
the project in 1987, it could image items as small as a loaf of sliced
American bread. Some said as small as a golf ball, but that's a
contrast thing, not resolution. You could tell if someone had a hat or
helmet on, and if their shirt was long sleeved or short.
The sensor consisted of three overlapping strips of CCD sensor about
2" long and 1/4 inch wide.
_
__ _
Like that. They could image either in "still mode" or "strip mode". In
either case they were capturing the image as it crossed the sensors
and the satellite cruised by overhead. In strip mode you could take in
a 10 to 60 mile wide area (vertical or oblique) by as long as you
wanted. The bird was stabilized and pointed (positioned) quite rapidly
if need be by a series of Control Motion Gyros (CMG) that had brakes
on each. CMGs were spinning rapidly, and to reposition the satellite
the brakes were applied to one or more of the CMGs for a bit to start
the motion, then again to the opposite CMG to stop it. Six CMGs were
employed, in various orientations, though I believe three were
primary, and the other three were cut in as backups if one of the
primaries failed. Because it was in space, and weightless, it didn't
take as much energy as you think, but you were starting and stopping
several tons, and the laws of inertia still applied.
The latest generations are still up there, so always smile and wave
when you look up at the clouds
On Jun 1, 2009, at 13:03 , Adam Maas wrote:
Note that while Nikon had their chips fabbed elsewhere, they did
develop most of them in-house (By the release of the D100 Nikon had
been making DSLR's for over a decade). Pentax lacked the in-house
design team Nikon had and thus had to rely on outside sensor
development until the Samsung partnership.
Kodak would have been a poor choice, they haven't had a competitive
small format sensor since the DCS760 and that sensor was already
obsolete by the time the issues with the Phillips sensor became known.
-Adam
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Desjardins, Steve
wrote:
Thanks for the info.
The article in the original email cited lack of expertise or
investment as the big problem with the film to digital transition.
It seems to me that Pentax was trying to keep up but definitely
needed a partner in the electronics industry to make the sensors.
Maybe they should have tried Kodak. I do remember (now) that Canon
was in-house but that Nikon was getting their chips from elsewhere.
Canon's sensors have been in-house since the D30 in 2000, prior to
that they supplied bodies to Kodak for Canon-mount derivations of the
Kodak/Nikon DCS series bodies.
Nikon's a mix, they partnered heavily with Kodak on the Kodak-branded
DCS series (there were also a couple Canon-based DCS models) while
the
D1 series had Nikon-designed sensors custom-fabricated for them.
Their
first camera with a commercially-available sensor was the D100 in
2002, which was the launch camera for the Sony 6MP sensor and Nikon
almost assuredly had a 1 year exclusivity contract on that sensor.
The
*istD was the second camera to use that sensor and it was announced
just about exactly 1 year later. Nikon had a similar deal with the DX
10MP CCD sensor in the D200 (and later in the K10D, Sony A100 and
their derivatives).
-Adam
There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on
the
MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so
many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta
DSLR's
wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the
party,
excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the
smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with
Olympus in
being the first to ship.
-Adam
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Mike,
I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution.
That's kind
of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass,
they
could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak
had
the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and
they
were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more
in this
revolution than a simple camera maker.
Regards, Bob S.
That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying.
Hasselblad was a _leader_ in the revolution until the company
owners/management, for reasons that seem at first glance to be
incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the research and
developm
Re: CODEC's for Pentax DNG thumbnails
You'll need a DNG codec from Adobe. -Adam On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: > I downloaded the codec from the Pentax site and it gives me thumpnails > for my PEF's, but not the DNG's that I have. > Are there any solutions out there that anyone knows abount? This will > be for Vista and PSE 7. > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
CODEC's for Pentax DNG thumbnails
I downloaded the codec from the Pentax site and it gives me thumpnails for my PEF's, but not the DNG's that I have. Are there any solutions out there that anyone knows abount? This will be for Vista and PSE 7. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Note that while Nikon had their chips fabbed elsewhere, they did
develop most of them in-house (By the release of the D100 Nikon had
been making DSLR's for over a decade). Pentax lacked the in-house
design team Nikon had and thus had to rely on outside sensor
development until the Samsung partnership.
Kodak would have been a poor choice, they haven't had a competitive
small format sensor since the DCS760 and that sensor was already
obsolete by the time the issues with the Phillips sensor became known.
-Adam
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
>
> The article in the original email cited lack of expertise or investment as
> the big problem with the film to digital transition. It seems to me that
> Pentax was trying to keep up but definitely needed a partner in the
> electronics industry to make the sensors. Maybe they should have tried
> Kodak. I do remember (now) that Canon was in-house but that Nikon was
> getting their chips from elsewhere.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
> Maas
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:00 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
> industry
>
> Canon's sensors have been in-house since the D30 in 2000, prior to
> that they supplied bodies to Kodak for Canon-mount derivations of the
> Kodak/Nikon DCS series bodies.
>
> Nikon's a mix, they partnered heavily with Kodak on the Kodak-branded
> DCS series (there were also a couple Canon-based DCS models) while the
> D1 series had Nikon-designed sensors custom-fabricated for them. Their
> first camera with a commercially-available sensor was the D100 in
> 2002, which was the launch camera for the Sony 6MP sensor and Nikon
> almost assuredly had a 1 year exclusivity contract on that sensor. The
> *istD was the second camera to use that sensor and it was announced
> just about exactly 1 year later. Nikon had a similar deal with the DX
> 10MP CCD sensor in the D200 (and later in the K10D, Sony A100 and
> their derivatives).
>
> -Adam
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
>> What were Nikon and Canon using?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
>> Maas
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:20 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
>> industry
>>
>> There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on the
>> MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so
>> many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta DSLR's
>> wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the party,
>> excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the
>> smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with Olympus in
>> being the first to ship.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
>>> Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far
>>> less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D
>>> (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more
>>> timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably
>>> why they are still gun shy about FF.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>>> mike wilson
>>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
>>> industry
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Sullivan wrote:
Mike,
I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
revolution than a simple camera maker.
Regards, Bob S.
>>>
>>> That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
>>> _leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
>>> that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
>>> research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
>>> themselves.
>>>
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson
wrote:
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
>> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
>> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
>> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechan
RE: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Thanks for the info.
The article in the original email cited lack of expertise or investment as the
big problem with the film to digital transition. It seems to me that Pentax was
trying to keep up but definitely needed a partner in the electronics industry
to make the sensors. Maybe they should have tried Kodak. I do remember (now)
that Canon was in-house but that Nikon was getting their chips from elsewhere.
-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
Maas
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:00 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Canon's sensors have been in-house since the D30 in 2000, prior to
that they supplied bodies to Kodak for Canon-mount derivations of the
Kodak/Nikon DCS series bodies.
Nikon's a mix, they partnered heavily with Kodak on the Kodak-branded
DCS series (there were also a couple Canon-based DCS models) while the
D1 series had Nikon-designed sensors custom-fabricated for them. Their
first camera with a commercially-available sensor was the D100 in
2002, which was the launch camera for the Sony 6MP sensor and Nikon
almost assuredly had a 1 year exclusivity contract on that sensor. The
*istD was the second camera to use that sensor and it was announced
just about exactly 1 year later. Nikon had a similar deal with the DX
10MP CCD sensor in the D200 (and later in the K10D, Sony A100 and
their derivatives).
-Adam
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
> What were Nikon and Canon using?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
> Maas
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:20 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
> industry
>
> There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on the
> MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so
> many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta DSLR's
> wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the party,
> excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the
> smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with Olympus in
> being the first to ship.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
>> Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far
>> less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D
>> (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more
>> timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably
>> why they are still gun shy about FF.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike
>> wilson
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
>> industry
>>
>>
>> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
>>> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
>>> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
>>> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
>>> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
>>> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
>>> revolution than a simple camera maker.
>>> Regards, Bob S.
>>
>> That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
>> _leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
>> that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
>> research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
>> themselves.
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson
>>> wrote:
>>> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
>>> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
>>> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
>>> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became
>>> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S.
>>> >
>>> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were
>>> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early
>>> > 90s.
>>> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable
>>> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Keith Whaley wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> Derby Chang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > A really fascinating essay on LL today.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.sh
RE: The Leica as a Teacher
> Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > I've found that a small smear of cow dung applied to the > back of the SD > > card mimics the smell of film. > > Paul > > Your pictures are _that_ bad? > He probably enjoys andouillette too. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Geraniums
Our hotel outside Florence had these growing in a window box, over a red tile roof. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9273917&size=lg (K10D, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG
I like the first and the third; the reflections in the first are very intriguing, as is the composition. I like the whimsy of the third. The second one doesn't spin my motor. Is that a special effect or some very localized mist? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Subject: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG > To: "SeePhoto Talk" , "DUG" > , "PAW Picture-A-Week project" > , "PDML List" , > baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:56 PM > from this morning's walk: > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3582789995_4864f0a8c7_o.jpg > 081 "Wild Reflection" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec > flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789995/ > > > http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3582789785_d2f72e58ca_o.jpg > 082 "Blooming" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/800 sec > flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789785/ > > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3582789601_3bf61a9d29_o.jpg > 083 "Traffic" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec > flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789601/ > > Comments always appreciated. > > enjoy, > Godfrey > -- > www.gdgphoto.com > www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets > twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Canon's sensors have been in-house since the D30 in 2000, prior to
that they supplied bodies to Kodak for Canon-mount derivations of the
Kodak/Nikon DCS series bodies.
Nikon's a mix, they partnered heavily with Kodak on the Kodak-branded
DCS series (there were also a couple Canon-based DCS models) while the
D1 series had Nikon-designed sensors custom-fabricated for them. Their
first camera with a commercially-available sensor was the D100 in
2002, which was the launch camera for the Sony 6MP sensor and Nikon
almost assuredly had a 1 year exclusivity contract on that sensor. The
*istD was the second camera to use that sensor and it was announced
just about exactly 1 year later. Nikon had a similar deal with the DX
10MP CCD sensor in the D200 (and later in the K10D, Sony A100 and
their derivatives).
-Adam
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
> What were Nikon and Canon using?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
> Maas
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:20 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
> industry
>
> There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on the
> MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so
> many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta DSLR's
> wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the party,
> excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the
> smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with Olympus in
> being the first to ship.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
>> Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far
>> less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D
>> (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more
>> timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably
>> why they are still gun shy about FF.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike
>> wilson
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
>> industry
>>
>>
>> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
>>> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
>>> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
>>> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
>>> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
>>> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
>>> revolution than a simple camera maker.
>>> Regards, Bob S.
>>
>> That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
>> _leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
>> that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
>> research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
>> themselves.
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson
>>> wrote:
>>> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
>>> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
>>> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
>>> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became
>>> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S.
>>> >
>>> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were
>>> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early
>>> > 90s.
>>> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable
>>> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Keith Whaley wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> Derby Chang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > A really fascinating essay on LL today.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more
>>> about the turning point between film and digital use.
>>>
>>> I thought I had a reasonable understanding of it, until I read this
>>> article!
>>> Well written and (until something better comes along) pretty much a
>>> short
>>> but seminal revelation on how it all came about.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Derby...
>>>
>>> keith whaley
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I saw it as more a description of the gross mismanagement, followed by
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> financial rape and eventual (at least partial/temporary) salvation of a
>>> >
RE: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
What were Nikon and Canon using?
-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam
Maas
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:20 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on the
MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so
many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta DSLR's
wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the party,
excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the
smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with Olympus in
being the first to ship.
-Adam
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
> Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far
> less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D
> (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more
> timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably
> why they are still gun shy about FF.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike
> wilson
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
> industry
>
>
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> Mike,
>> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
>> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
>> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
>> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
>> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
>> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
>> revolution than a simple camera maker.
>> Regards, Bob S.
>
> That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
> _leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
> that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
> research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
> themselves.
>
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson
>> wrote:
>> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> >
>> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
>> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
>> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
>> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became
>> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S.
>> >
>> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were
>> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early 90s.
>> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable
>> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Keith Whaley wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> Derby Chang wrote:
>>
>>
>> > A really fascinating essay on LL today.
>> >
>> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more
>> about the turning point between film and digital use.
>>
>> I thought I had a reasonable understanding of it, until I read this
>> article!
>> Well written and (until something better comes along) pretty much a
>> short
>> but seminal revelation on how it all came about.
>>
>> Thanks, Derby...
>>
>> keith whaley
>> >>>
>> >>> I saw it as more a description of the gross mismanagement, followed by
>> >>> the
>> >>> financial rape and eventual (at least partial/temporary) salvation of a
>> >>> world class camera company. It has less to do with the change from film
>> >>> to
>> >>> sensor than it has to do with asset stripping and feckless, ignorant,
>> >>> self-centred little toads.
>> >>>
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RE: Lens considerations
I'll second the comment about the 20-35. I find this lens still gives me excellent results on my digital cameras. I am always reluctant to lose a lens that takes good pictures, regardless of the focal lenth(s). -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens considerations Leon, if I had (a good copy of) 20-35 I would probably keep it. Having somewhat similar situation to that of yours, I opted for Tamron 28-75/2.8 and DA 21. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Helen Hopper
The inimitable Helen Hopper at work. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qkWtQfj4jHed6TLgPOKLPw?feat=directlink K100D, FA50 and all that jazz. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Home from GFM
I was so "up" from my time at the mountain that I ended up driving nonstop home, chasing the moon. Was so great to meet all these names from the list and to be so accepted. Left at about 2:00pm Eastern and pulled into my drive at 4:30am Central. While trying to struggle with the front door at home, Diane opens it and says, "Oh!, I thought it was the cat wanting in." I have gotten some sleep but seem to be only operating at 50% or so. Will post more later, Christine told me I must post. Much to do here to catch up on my chores. I knew I should have mowed the yard before I left for GFM. Anyone that wonders if they should attend GFM, one simple answer, YES! Could anyone that attended the Sunday morning presentation by Pam Barbour, could you please email that url she gave us, off list? Later Ted ps I also ended up bringing home more beer than I took. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: a few snapshots from GFM
On 1/6/09, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: >was it windy? It was the Bratworst. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On the run
Certainly another one for the album. Composition especially well done, Paul. Jack --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Paul Stenquist wrote: > From: Paul Stenquist > Subject: PESO: On the run > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 10:41 AM > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9277895&size=lg > > DA* 60-250, K20D, f5.6 @ 1/1500th, 220mm, ISO 400 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On the run
I think Grace is a wee bit soft. The boy on the left is critically sharp. They weren't all in the same plane. Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:47 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: PESO: On the run http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9277895&size=lg DA* 60-250, K20D, f5.6 @ 1/1500th, 220mm, ISO 400 Is it just me or did you miss the focus by a wee bit? It's a fun shot, and that lens looks like it is doing what you are paying it to do. I think mine should be here either this week or next William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On the run
Good fun shot Paul. Looks like the 60-250 works well. Dave On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9277895&size=lg > > DA* 60-250, K20D, f5.6 @ 1/1500th, 220mm, ISO 400 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On the run
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: PESO: On the run http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9277895&size=lg DA* 60-250, K20D, f5.6 @ 1/1500th, 220mm, ISO 400 Is it just me or did you miss the focus by a wee bit? It's a fun shot, and that lens looks like it is doing what you are paying it to do. I think mine should be here either this week or next William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Leica as a Teacher
Doug Brewer wrote: One of the few things I miss about film is the scent of a new roll. Smells like possibility. Mark! and it _is_ a great loss. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Leica as a Teacher
Paul Stenquist wrote: I've found that a small smear of cow dung applied to the back of the SD card mimics the smell of film. Paul Your pictures are _that_ bad? On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: mike wilson wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: film loading Film loading. Mmm I wish someone would make an SD card that smelled like Kodachrome. I'd buy that. One of the few things I miss about film is the scent of a new roll. Smells like possibility. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.48/2148 - Release Date: 06/01/09 06:09:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: On the run
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Re: peso Alice's red knickers
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 07:29:01AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: > NIce light. Thanks. > I'm wishing her foot were not cut off. d'Oh! I didn't even notice that until you said something. I was pretty wiped out last night, I think it worked out to 7 or 8 hours of shooting between the two sessions. As I pointed out in my blog: http://lrc.livejournal.com/1048468.html It's a lot of fun, but I'm really glad that I'm not trying to make a living at it. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 082 bw - GDG
Thanks for all the comments on the 081/082/083 set! From: "Bob W" http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3582789785_d2f72e58ca_o.jpg 082 "Blooming" - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/800 sec flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789785/ The Blooming shot (looks like Ragwort - don't let your horses eat it) is nicely done, although I'm not particularly a fan of that kind of point colour against b&w. ... Bob's comment reinforced a bit of ambivalence about my mixte rendering on this one, and I thought it might look nice in a monochrome only, warm tone rendering as well. So I did another rendering on it for people to look at, compare and discuss as appropriate. New rendering: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2468/3585289479_f1b3cc0bf9_o.jpg 082 - "Blooming" - Sunnyvale 2009 ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/800 sec flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3585289479/ I like them both, but like this new rendering a bit more. It gives the photo a different mood in my opinion. Whatcha think? :-) Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG
I really like what you have done in the second shot. The two snails is well seen and composed. Dave On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > from this morning's walk: > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3582789995_4864f0a8c7_o.jpg > 081 "Wild Reflection" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec > flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789995/ > > > http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3582789785_d2f72e58ca_o.jpg > 082 "Blooming" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/800 sec > flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789785/ > > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3582789601_3bf61a9d29_o.jpg > 083 "Traffic" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec > flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789601/ > > Comments always appreciated. > > enjoy, > Godfrey > -- > www.gdgphoto.com > www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets > twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Brick windows
Thanks Bruce and Paul. I wondered what the reaction to the heavy shadow would be, now i know. I'll play with it in LR and see if i can get it any better. This was done fairly quickly using Mac's Preview adjustments. Dave On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:33 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > I like the composition l. I think that if you tamed the shadow and burned in > the sunlit portion, it might be much better. The shadow could be a good > thing if it doesn't overwhelm. > Paul > On May 31, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > >> I think with this one, the extreme contrast from left to right >> detracts heavily from the picture. It certainly looks interesting as >> a subject - as always, lighting is the key. >> >> -- >> Bruce >> >> >> Sunday, May 31, 2009, 5:48:14 AM, you wrote: >> >> DJB> Taken a few weeks back on a local photo drive. >> >> DJB> Church is on Kennedy Road between 19th Avae and Elgin Mills Road. >> >> DJB> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3581620158/ >> >> DJB> Dave >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM
Glad you had a good time John, it is a great weekend. Dave On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Left there about 1:30 this afternoon and arrived home in Raleigh, NC about > 5:20. > > It was great to meet everyone. I'll try to say more once I've digested so > much I have to think about, and can have something coherent to add. > > From my worm's eye view of what was going on, the K-7 appeared to be a hit & > Mark may have sold a few PDML Annuals. > > Anyway, I hope everyone else gets home ok as well. > > 32 new digests to go through accumulated in my absence ... and I was almost > caught up last week. > > Hope this doesn't come through as a stutter post - error first try. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM BLOG 2
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Cotty wrote: It honestly sounded like a wild > boar having it's larynx ripped out by Godzilla. Come back Dave Brooks, > all is forgiven! You say that now, but what about next March.:-) Good read there Cotty, and glad Steph enjoyed his trip. Dave > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Old bike pr0n
Scott Loveless wrote: On 5/31/09, Christian wrote: Just a few shots of my newly rebuilt Takara. Love the lugged Japanese steel http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/05/1984ish-takara-deluxe-touring.html Very nice indeed. How do you like the Tektro levers? Ah yes, thanks for recommending them, they are really really comfortable. Can't wait to try the bike out on its first commute Friday. 21 miles each way. Should be a good indication if it's up to the task as far as comfort goes. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: a few snapshots from GFM
Scott Loveless wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GFMNPW2009?feat=directlink These were all taken with the K100D. Nothing fancy. I'll have more once the film is souped and scanned. was it windy? -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Old bike pr0n
On 5/31/09, Christian wrote: > Just a few shots of my newly rebuilt Takara. Love the lugged Japanese > steel > > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/05/1984ish-takara-deluxe-touring.html Very nice indeed. How do you like the Tektro levers? -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: test
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Dave, > A good time was had by all, but there was a bear at the cottage. Nico > heard him rummaging thru the trash cans, checked to see if it was Doug > Brewer snoring and it wasn't. The camp ground needed your protection. > Regards, Bob S. Told ya. Dave > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> How is the weekend going Bob. Every one enjoying them selves.:-) >> >> Dave >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >>> I think Doug is busier than a one armed paper hanger at the moment and >>> without internet connection. >>> He was playing with a new K7 all afternoon then sorting thru GFM >>> contest photos before dinner. >>> By 11:15 AM today they'll have to be doing the Mark and Doug show of >>> the award winners. >>> Regards, Bob S. >>> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:30 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Not sure if Doug has internet at GFM. I have taken the precaution to set this one up on my kill file, just in case. I'll check back an see if any land in my trash box. Dave On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:39 AM, mike wilson wrote: > AlunFoto wrote: > >> Given the footer on the website of www.consultant.com, a successful >> test probably means trouble: >> >> "CONSULTANT.COM is a publication of World.com Media. Other leading >> publications include Asia.com for the Best Deals on Travel in Asia, >> Lawyer.com for Legal Advice and Services, Doctor.com for Consumer >> Medical Information, Calendar.com for Calendar Software and Scheduling >> Solutions, Email.com for Business Email Software and Services and >> Paris.com for Paris Travel, Hotel and Restaurant Information. >> This site and domain are not affiliated with or owned by any >> government or municipal authority" >> >> >> 2009/5/30 this isjustatest : >> >>> test > > Nothing so far. Hopefully, either spam filters are working or Doug picked > it up and shut out the domain. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> York Region, Ontario, Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Leica as a Teacher
I've found that a small smear of cow dung applied to the back of the SD card mimics the smell of film. Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: mike wilson wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: film loading Film loading. Mmm I wish someone would make an SD card that smelled like Kodachrome. I'd buy that. One of the few things I miss about film is the scent of a new roll. Smells like possibility. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2009 wrapped up
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > I'm back at my friends' cabin in NC after another GFM Nature Photography > Weekend. At this point I've gone three days with fairly minimal amounts of > sleep and lots of physical activity and stress so this will be a necessarily > brief post. I need sleep now... Yes you do. > > It was great to meet some new PDLMers face-to-face (John Sessoms, Ted Beilby > and Christine Aguila -- I never tire of meeting PDML people and I've never > met one I didn't like) and to see old friends again. All joking aside, I > think Doug Brewer must be a long lost brother of mine. Thankfully not a twin brother.:-) > > We got to play with cool new Pentax gear, including the amazing (more about > that later) K-7. John Carlson from Pentax is a really nice guy and a true > class act. I sent a PDML Photo Annual back to Colorado with him. That was a great idea Mark. > > The whole program at the Nature Photography Weekend ran more smoothly than I > can ever remember it doing in the past. And the standard of photography was > truly amazing: There were shots that missed the Honorable Mention this year > that would have been class winners last year. No kidding. So i have no hope in the future then. > > I was suffering through a cold for much of last week (though I was pretty > much back to full strength by Saturday), and between that and the weather I > missed my usual back country camp out. Some other time. I still got some > great shots on Thursday in the area along Route 221. Gallery on line soon. Can't wait. > > The contest awards presentation on Sunday (AKA "The Doug and Mark Show") > went pretty well this year. At least it started on time. > > We finished up with two members of the GFM team getting married at the > mountain! Tres cool. I thought Cotty and Cory were already married.?? > > I'll have a much more agonizingly-detailed report later. Until then, let me > finish up with a quote from Doug Brewer: "C'est fromage!" The brie is a bit runny. Dave > > I *really* need to sleep now... > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: a few snapshots from GFM
Thanks for sharinmg Scott. Maybe it was best i was not there if it was windy. Now that i'm at 230 lb's i would have toppled over.:-) Dave On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GFMNPW2009?feat=directlink > > These were all taken with the K100D. Nothing fancy. I'll have more > once the film is souped and scanned. > > -- > Scott Loveless > Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Leica as a Teacher
mike wilson wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: film loading Film loading. Mmm I wish someone would make an SD card that smelled like Kodachrome. I'd buy that. One of the few things I miss about film is the scent of a new roll. Smells like possibility. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
There wasn't a "safe" DX sensor at the time Pentax started work on the
MZ-D. The Sony DX 6MP CCD sensor that would become the basis for so
many Pentax and Nikon DSLR's along with both the Konica Minolta DSLR's
wasn't available until 2002. Frankly Pentax wasn't late to the party,
excepting Contax's ill-fated N Digital, Pentax was the first of the
smaller makers to announce a DSLR and pretty much tied with Olympus in
being the first to ship.
-Adam
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
> Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far
> less money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D
> (instead of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more
> timely product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably
> why they are still gun shy about FF.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike
> wilson
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera
> industry
>
>
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> Mike,
>> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
>> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
>> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
>> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
>> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
>> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
>> revolution than a simple camera maker.
>> Regards, Bob S.
>
> That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
> _leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
> that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
> research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
> themselves.
>
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson
>> wrote:
>> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> >
>> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
>> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
>> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
>> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became
>> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S.
>> >
>> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were
>> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early 90s.
>> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable
>> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Keith Whaley wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> Derby Chang wrote:
>>
>>
>> > A really fascinating essay on LL today.
>> >
>> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more
>> about the turning point between film and digital use.
>>
>> I thought I had a reasonable understanding of it, until I read this
>> article!
>> Well written and (until something better comes along) pretty much a
>> short
>> but seminal revelation on how it all came about.
>>
>> Thanks, Derby...
>>
>> keith whaley
>> >>>
>> >>> I saw it as more a description of the gross mismanagement, followed by
>> >>> the
>> >>> financial rape and eventual (at least partial/temporary) salvation of a
>> >>> world class camera company. It has less to do with the change from film
>> >>> to
>> >>> sensor than it has to do with asset stripping and feckless, ignorant,
>> >>> self-centred little toads.
>> >>>
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a few snapshots from GFM
http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GFMNPW2009?feat=directlink These were all taken with the K100D. Nothing fancy. I'll have more once the film is souped and scanned. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Remember the Pentax MZ-D? Pentax was behind N and C but they also had far less
money. If they had chosen to use a "safe" DX format chip in the MZ-D (instead
of the ill-fated Phillips FF chip) they would have produced a more timely
product. Would it have sold at $4-6K is another question. Probably why they
are still gun shy about FF.
-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike
wilson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:14 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Mike,
> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
> revolution than a simple camera maker.
> Regards, Bob S.
That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
_leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
themselves.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >
> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became
> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S.
> >
> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were
> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early 90s.
> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable
> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits.
> >
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Keith Whaley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> Derby Chang wrote:
>
>
> > A really fascinating essay on LL today.
> >
> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml
> >
> >
>
> Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more
> about the turning point between film and digital use.
>
> I thought I had a reasonable understanding of it, until I read this
> article!
> Well written and (until something better comes along) pretty much a
> short
> but seminal revelation on how it all came about.
>
> Thanks, Derby...
>
> keith whaley
> >>>
> >>> I saw it as more a description of the gross mismanagement, followed by
> >>> the
> >>> financial rape and eventual (at least partial/temporary) salvation of a
> >>> world class camera company. It has less to do with the change from film
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> >>> self-centred little toads.
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RE: Pentax sent me an email about the K-7
Pentax is not a pro camera. But they are hopeful. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:52 AM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Pentax sent me an email about the K-7 Received an email about the camera today, from Pentax. Among its features it states it will come with a 3 year warranty, a coupon for 15% off various lenses and such, and a 1-800 number for professionals to call for equipment loans. I though Pentax was not a pro camera. Guess not. :-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight
Good shots and good names. The "Daemons" shot has a wonderfully dark foreboding about it. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luka Knezevic-Strika Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight i don't usually go around giving names to photos, but here's a couple of exceptions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3579039377/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3577283098/ pentax k10d, da 50-200 luka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso Alice's red knickers
NIce light. I'm wishing her foot were not cut off. Paul On Jun 1, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend of mine wanted to get some photos of her with her boyfriend. Most of their photos are one taking a shot of the other. They showed up just as I finished a session with another couple of friend, so the lights were all set up This shot of Alice, showing off her knickers in my redwood grove turned out particularly well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3583577933/sizes/o/in/set-72157618992758855/ From this set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618992758855/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2009 wrapped up
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Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry
Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Mike,
> I heard you, but just because Hasselblad tried and got tripped up
> doesn't mean that they could have stopped the revolution. That's kind
> of like saying "If Longenes didn't have their head up their ass, they
> could have saved the mechanical watch industry." Eastman Kodak had
> the resources and the knowledge of what was on the horizon, and they
> were much better capitalized than Hassy. They lost a lot more in this
> revolution than a simple camera maker.
> Regards, Bob S.
That's not ("stopped the revolution") what I'm saying. Hasselblad was a
_leader_ in the revolution until the company owners/management, for reasons
that seem at first glance to be incredibly selfish, pulled the plug on the
research and development and spent the money on something else. Probably
themselves.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >
> >> Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know
> >> how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major
> >> dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a
> >> $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became
> >> an anachronism. So too with film cameras... Regards, Bob S.
> >
> > The article says that the above scenario was not the case. Engineers were
> > working on digital solutions (did I write that out loud?) in the early 90s.
> > There was a takeover, the research was scrapped and the considerable
> > financial resources disappeared. Amoral bandits.
> >
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, mike wilson
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Keith Whaley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> Derby Chang wrote:
>
>
> > A really fascinating essay on LL today.
> >
> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml
> >
> >
>
> Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more
> about the turning point between film and digital use.
>
> I thought I had a reasonable understanding of it, until I read this
> article!
> Well written and (until something better comes along) pretty much a
> short
> but seminal revelation on how it all came about.
>
> Thanks, Derby...
>
> keith whaley
> >>>
> >>> I saw it as more a description of the gross mismanagement, followed by
> >>> the
> >>> financial rape and eventual (at least partial/temporary) salvation of a
> >>> world class camera company. It has less to do with the change from film
> >>> to
> >>> sensor than it has to do with asset stripping and feckless, ignorant,
> >>> self-centred little toads.
> >>>
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RE: PESO 2009 - 081, 082, 083 - GDG
> > from this morning's walk: > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3582789995_4864f0a8c7_o.jpg > 081 "Wild Reflection" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec >flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789995/ > > > http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3582789785_d2f72e58ca_o.jpg > 082 "Blooming" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/1.4 @ 1/800 sec >flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789785/ > > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3582789601_3bf61a9d29_o.jpg > 083 "Traffic" - Sunnyvale 2009 > Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 > ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/200 sec >flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3582789601/ > > Comments always appreciated. > > enjoy, > Godfrey > -- > www.gdgphoto.com > www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets > twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi The Blooming shot (looks like Ragwort - don't let your horses eat it) is nicely done, although I'm not particularly a fan of that kind of point colour against b&w. The snails are excellent indeed - it starts off looking like an Australian sky full of stars until you realise that even the Aussies don't have giant space-hopping snails. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
