RE: It's about freaking time...

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Hi Doug

It looks good - clean lines and everything works. Only thing I feel needs
attention is where you've got images inline like on the "about us" and
"custom" pages - you could do with a little more space between the text and
the images.

Just my personal opinion...

Chris

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> Subject: It's about freaking time...
> 
> I updated my old web site. Take a look around and let me know what you
> think. Or not. Up to you.
> 
> http://www.alphoto.com
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Doug
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for the suggestions and all around cheer-up,  Brian, Paul, & Godfrey. 
I'll take a rest and try one of the better whizzy-wigs.  Suggestions much 
appreciated.  Big cheers, Christine




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Christine

I agree totally with Graydon.  Using Notepad to write HTML mark-up is a
recipe for the sort of head-banging that you're experiencing.

Grab a HTML editor - they are just text editors with enhancements to
make writing HTML easy (I use HTML Kit - free for private use and it has
HTML-Tidy built in to find all those typos).  If you'd rather not
hand-code, try a WYSIWYG editor.  Someone here mentioned Komposer a
month or two back.  I don't use it but I had a quick look at it - seems
fine:

http://kompozer.net/

And please, please don't use MS Word to produce HTML.  It produces
masses of bloated text liberally strewn with MS-specific tags. It might
produce readable web pages but as browsers become more standards
complaint, it might not in the future.



Cheers

Brian

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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:57 -0400, "Graydon"  wrote:

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:39:35PM -0500, Christine  Aguila scripsit:
> Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not 
> one--for

> any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about
> html and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I

Couple points; HTML is markup, not code (no loops, no conditionals = not
code :) and writing anything beyond a short shopping list in Notepad is
a recipe for pain.  Lots of free HTML editors out there that will tell
you when you've forgotten an angle bracket, etc.

[snip]
> On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some
> code--and I learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was
> successful at linking the two, though they didn't link at first, and
> it took me forever to find the typo.  I had written *type="test/css"*
> instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got the jpeg to link to where I
> *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out how to get my little
> two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still, like I said, I'm a
> bit proud of my meager results here.

This is why specialized HTML editors are a good thing; they'll point out
mistakes like that.

Or you could go get a copy of tidy -- http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ --
which will at least find typeaux like that for you.

> But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have
> no  problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts
> when  learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days
> I'd be a little further along!

Why?  There's a very large amount of complexity involved, and there are
big, big differences between the server-driven, pro-grade pages and what
you can practically hand-code.  Trying to emulate the server-driven
stuff by hand would stymie anyone.

> Moreover, I started looking at the code for some  elegantly simple web
> pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the complexity of
> the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next 12
> months just to get close to learning this stuff.

Have you considered looking at http://www.w3schools.com/htmL/ ?  That's
probably the single best HTML introduction available.

> Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web
> Pages to get something up.

That's a lot like saying your first two tries at making bread produced
patio stones, so you're going to take arsenic now.

Open Office produces much better HTML than Word -- Word's HTML is
proverbially awful -- so if you want to use a WYSIWIG editor to generate
HTML, it's a better choice.

But, really, if you want to learn how to do this, get a decent free HTML
editor for your platform of choice, and start chewing through the
w3schools tutorial.

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Re: Difficult lighting conditions

2009-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
I was out of town so didn't get to comment, but on looking through, I
think the originals didn't need so much tweaking - just take a tiny
bit of strong red out but leave the general feeling.  You have some
nice shots there.

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Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:43:55 AM, you wrote:

CM> Thanks for the feedback everyone. The consensus is that I shouldn't be so
CM> paranoid about red lights...

CM> Cheers

CM> Chris

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>> Subject: Difficult lighting conditions
>> 
>> This is a band called Emerald Sky at Togfest last weekend. The lighting
>> was
>> challenging on this stage - the guy thought red was cool.
>> 
>> I thought I would not have any decent shots for the festival and band's
>> use,
>> but a little tweaking in Lightroom proved otherwise:
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Redshift/
>> 
>> Thought this might interest the group. Sequence is original as shot
>> (Tungsten)/colour balance nearly full blue/B&W conversion (Except the
>> close-up of the drummer which I liked anyway). Little bit of cropping
>> on
>> some.
>> 
>> K10D DA* 16-50 and DA*50-135 2.8 (I love the 50-135 2.8 for shooting
>> bands
>> in low light!)
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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Re: Peso Two more flowers.

2009-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Like the first shot very much.  Good composition and interesting
lighting.  Second shot not as much - just doesn't have the impact of
the first shot.

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Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:42:07 AM, you wrote:

DJB> Some flowers at my sisters house.

DJB> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9423200

DJB> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9423207

DJB> D200, Tamron 90 f2.8 macro, hand held, LR 2

DJB> Dave




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RE: Difficult lighting conditions

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Thanks Christine

One of the good things about Togfest is that everyone provides their
services for free - including the bands. The bands will get a CD of all of
their pictures taken by me and the other official photographers.

Chris 

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> Christine Aguila
> Sent: 03 July 2009 04:35
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> Subject: Re: Difficult lighting conditions
> 
> Hi Chris:  Well, I think these shots are just stunning.  I, too, like
> the
> photo Doug picked out, but I have to say, I think it's a great set all
> around.  Really nice work, Chris. I don't see much wrong with the
> color, and
> I think I prefer them to the black and whites--though I like the bws
> very
> much too. You should try and contact the band members and show them
> your set
> here.  I bet they'd love them.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Mitchell" 
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Difficult lighting conditions
> 
> 
> > This is a band called Emerald Sky at Togfest last weekend. The
> lighting
> > was
> > challenging on this stage - the guy thought red was cool.
> >
> > I thought I would not have any decent shots for the festival and
> band's
> > use,
> > but a little tweaking in Lightroom proved otherwise:
> > http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Redshift/
> >
> > Thought this might interest the group. Sequence is original as shot
> > (Tungsten)/colour balance nearly full blue/B&W conversion (Except the
> > close-up of the drummer which I liked anyway). Little bit of cropping
> on
> > some.
> >
> > K10D DA* 16-50 and DA*50-135 2.8 (I love the 50-135 2.8 for shooting
> bands
> > in low light!)
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Christine,

Writing with HTML ... or any other language whether markup or code ...
takes more time than two days to become proficient. And good tools for
the job make a big difference.

You've done very well.

Rest, get a good HTML editor (for straight HTML on Mac OS X, I like
BBEdit), and get back at it soon.
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila


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There, there darling...

...now back to the kitchen.





You are not my favorite Australian anymore!  :-)


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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread David Savage
There, there darling...

...now back to the kitchen.



On 03/07/2009, Christine  Aguila  wrote:
> Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not one--for
> any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about html
> and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I might get a
> simple index page up.  Oh my gosh, am I brain dead. (Aside:  as I write
> this, I can hear the most beautiful live xylophone music coming through my
> study window.  It's absolutely delightful.  Someone is playing in his or her
> backyard somewhere across the alley.)  I did, in fact, get something
> written, but oh, is it stinky--and I never did get it just the way I wanted.
>
> On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some code--and I
> learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was successful at linking the
> two, though they didn't link at first, and it took me forever to find the
> typo.  I had written *type="test/css"* instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got
> the jpeg to link to where I *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out
> how to get my little two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still,
> like I said, I'm a bit proud of my meager results here.
>
> But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have no
> problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts when
> learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days I'd be a
> little further along!  Moreover, I started looking at the code for some
> elegantly simple web pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the
> complexity of the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next
> 12 months just to get close to learning this stuff.
>
> Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web Pages
> to get something up.
>
> Lastly, to all you Cyber Techie Code Writers who can write this stuff at the
> speed of light, I sincerely tip my hat to you in admiration.  Cheers,
> Christine
>
>
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Re: PESO - Repeat

2009-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Glad you all liked the shot - thanks for taking a look.

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Thursday, July 2, 2009, 8:52:08 PM, you wrote:

CA> Wow!  Nice light great concept to the composition.  Wonderfully executed.
CA> Another nice one, Bruce.  Cheers, Christine



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CA> From: "Bruce Dayton" 
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CA> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:12 AM
CA> Subject: PESO - Repeat


>> Same walk, different subject.
>>
>> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
>> ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0675.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
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>> Bruce
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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks all for taking a look and commenting.

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Thursday, July 2, 2009, 8:50:30 PM, you wrote:

CA> Wow, lovely.  Great Bokeh and composition.  Nice job, Bruce.  Cheers, 
CA> Christine



CA> - Original Message - 
CA> From: "Bruce Dayton" 
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CA> Subject: PESO - Weed 2


>> Same walk, different weed.
>>
>> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread allaround6

Yes, Christine -

Definitely take a look at Kompozer.  It's relatively easy to use in WYSIWYG and 
it lets you tweak the source if you're so inclined - and it includes a CSS 
editor.  I once made an attempt to do a web page using MSPublisher.  After I 
saw how bloated it was with useless text I threw that idea out the window along 
with the file(s) I had just created.

-p

-Original Message-
>From: Brian Walters 
>Sent: Jul 3, 2009 1:17 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: Way OT   @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@
>
>Christine
>
>I agree totally with Graydon.  Using Notepad to write HTML mark-up is a
>recipe for the sort of head-banging that you're experiencing.
>
>Grab a HTML editor - they are just text editors with enhancements to
>make writing HTML easy (I use HTML Kit - free for private use and it has
>HTML-Tidy built in to find all those typos).  If you'd rather not
>hand-code, try a WYSIWYG editor.  Someone here mentioned Komposer a
>month or two back.  I don't use it but I had a quick look at it - seems
>fine:
>
>http://kompozer.net/
>
>And please, please don't use MS Word to produce HTML.  It produces
>masses of bloated text liberally strewn with MS-specific tags. It might
>produce readable web pages but as browsers become more standards
>complaint, it might not in the future.
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Brian
>
>++
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>
>
>
>On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:57 -0400, "Graydon"  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:39:35PM -0500, Christine  Aguila scripsit:
>> > Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not one--for 
>> > any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about 
>> > html and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I 
>> 
>> Couple points; HTML is markup, not code (no loops, no conditionals = not
>> code :) and writing anything beyond a short shopping list in Notepad is
>> a recipe for pain.  Lots of free HTML editors out there that will tell
>> you when you've forgotten an angle bracket, etc.
>> 
>> [snip]
>> > On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some
>> > code--and I learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was
>> > successful at linking the two, though they didn't link at first, and
>> > it took me forever to find the typo.  I had written *type="test/css"*
>> > instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got the jpeg to link to where I
>> > *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out how to get my little
>> > two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still, like I said, I'm a
>> > bit proud of my meager results here.
>> 
>> This is why specialized HTML editors are a good thing; they'll point out
>> mistakes like that.
>> 
>> Or you could go get a copy of tidy -- http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ --
>> which will at least find typeaux like that for you.
>> 
>> > But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have
>> > no  problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts
>> > when  learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days
>> > I'd be a little further along! 
>> 
>> Why?  There's a very large amount of complexity involved, and there are
>> big, big differences between the server-driven, pro-grade pages and what
>> you can practically hand-code.  Trying to emulate the server-driven
>> stuff by hand would stymie anyone.
>> 
>> > Moreover, I started looking at the code for some  elegantly simple web
>> > pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the complexity of
>> > the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next 12
>> > months just to get close to learning this stuff.
>> 
>> Have you considered looking at http://www.w3schools.com/htmL/ ?  That's
>> probably the single best HTML introduction available.
>> 
>> > Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web
>> > Pages to get something up.
>> 
>> That's a lot like saying your first two tries at making bread produced
>> patio stones, so you're going to take arsenic now.
>> 
>> Open Office produces much better HTML than Word -- Word's HTML is
>> proverbially awful -- so if you want to use a WYSIWIG editor to generate
>> HTML, it's a better choice.
>> 
>> But, really, if you want to learn how to do this, get a decent free HTML
>> editor for your platform of choice, and start chewing through the
>> w3schools tutorial.
>> 
>> -- Graydon
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Graydon" 


Couple points; HTML is markup, not code (no loops, no conditionals = not
code :) and writing anything beyond a short shopping list in Notepad is
a recipe for pain.  Lots of free HTML editors out there that will tell
you when you've forgotten an angle bracket, etc.


Point taken!


This is why specialized HTML editors are a good thing; they'll point out
mistakes like that.

Or you could go get a copy of tidy -- http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ --
which will at least find typeaux like that for you.


Point taken again :-)!



Why?  There's a very large amount of complexity involved, and there are
big, big differences between the server-driven, pro-grade pages and what
you can practically hand-code.  Trying to emulate the server-driven
stuff by hand would stymie anyone.


Perhaps you're right--still . . .



Have you considered looking at http://www.w3schools.com/htmL/ ?  That's
probably the single best HTML introduction available.


It was just this site that I used for my two days of learning.  The hands-on 
tutorials are fantastic, and suited to the way I like to learn.  I'd 
recommend this site to anyone.  I have no doubt it is the best.  And I 
learned from an acquaintance that the folks that put the site together are 
the same folks that set the standards for MARK-UP :-) language etc.  I think 
they're doing a great job and providing a great service.  It's a great 
place.





Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web
Pages to get something up.


That's a lot like saying your first two tries at making bread produced
patio stones, so you're going to take arsenic now.


lol.  I knew mentioning Word would be provocative--and get someone's hair to 
stand on end.  :-)





Open Office produces much better HTML than Word -- Word's HTML is
proverbially awful -- so if you want to use a WYSIWIG editor to generate
HTML, it's a better choice.

But, really, if you want to learn how to do this, get a decent free HTML
editor for your platform of choice, and start chewing through the
w3schools tutorial.


Guess I'm just feeling tired and a bit defeated.  The kicker is, I've made 
all my decisions on content and what pages will link to what pages, and the 
general layout.  It's fairly straight ahead.  Perhaps, I'll enjoy some 
fireworks and potato salad this weekend and try again next week.--By the 
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Brian Walters
Christine

I agree totally with Graydon.  Using Notepad to write HTML mark-up is a
recipe for the sort of head-banging that you're experiencing.

Grab a HTML editor - they are just text editors with enhancements to
make writing HTML easy (I use HTML Kit - free for private use and it has
HTML-Tidy built in to find all those typos).  If you'd rather not
hand-code, try a WYSIWYG editor.  Someone here mentioned Komposer a
month or two back.  I don't use it but I had a quick look at it - seems
fine:

http://kompozer.net/

And please, please don't use MS Word to produce HTML.  It produces
masses of bloated text liberally strewn with MS-specific tags. It might
produce readable web pages but as browsers become more standards
complaint, it might not in the future.



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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:57 -0400, "Graydon"  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:39:35PM -0500, Christine  Aguila scripsit:
> > Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not one--for 
> > any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about 
> > html and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I 
> 
> Couple points; HTML is markup, not code (no loops, no conditionals = not
> code :) and writing anything beyond a short shopping list in Notepad is
> a recipe for pain.  Lots of free HTML editors out there that will tell
> you when you've forgotten an angle bracket, etc.
> 
> [snip]
> > On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some
> > code--and I learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was
> > successful at linking the two, though they didn't link at first, and
> > it took me forever to find the typo.  I had written *type="test/css"*
> > instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got the jpeg to link to where I
> > *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out how to get my little
> > two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still, like I said, I'm a
> > bit proud of my meager results here.
> 
> This is why specialized HTML editors are a good thing; they'll point out
> mistakes like that.
> 
> Or you could go get a copy of tidy -- http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ --
> which will at least find typeaux like that for you.
> 
> > But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have
> > no  problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts
> > when  learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days
> > I'd be a little further along! 
> 
> Why?  There's a very large amount of complexity involved, and there are
> big, big differences between the server-driven, pro-grade pages and what
> you can practically hand-code.  Trying to emulate the server-driven
> stuff by hand would stymie anyone.
> 
> > Moreover, I started looking at the code for some  elegantly simple web
> > pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the complexity of
> > the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next 12
> > months just to get close to learning this stuff.
> 
> Have you considered looking at http://www.w3schools.com/htmL/ ?  That's
> probably the single best HTML introduction available.
> 
> > Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web
> > Pages to get something up.
> 
> That's a lot like saying your first two tries at making bread produced
> patio stones, so you're going to take arsenic now.
> 
> Open Office produces much better HTML than Word -- Word's HTML is
> proverbially awful -- so if you want to use a WYSIWIG editor to generate
> HTML, it's a better choice.
> 
> But, really, if you want to learn how to do this, get a decent free HTML
> editor for your platform of choice, and start chewing through the
> w3schools tutorial.
> 
> -- Graydon
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Re: Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:39:35PM -0500, Christine  Aguila scripsit:
> Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not one--for 
> any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about 
> html and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I 

Couple points; HTML is markup, not code (no loops, no conditionals = not
code :) and writing anything beyond a short shopping list in Notepad is
a recipe for pain.  Lots of free HTML editors out there that will tell
you when you've forgotten an angle bracket, etc.

[snip]
> On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some
> code--and I learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was
> successful at linking the two, though they didn't link at first, and
> it took me forever to find the typo.  I had written *type="test/css"*
> instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got the jpeg to link to where I
> *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out how to get my little
> two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still, like I said, I'm a
> bit proud of my meager results here.

This is why specialized HTML editors are a good thing; they'll point out
mistakes like that.

Or you could go get a copy of tidy -- http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ --
which will at least find typeaux like that for you.

> But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have
> no  problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts
> when  learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days
> I'd be a little further along! 

Why?  There's a very large amount of complexity involved, and there are
big, big differences between the server-driven, pro-grade pages and what
you can practically hand-code.  Trying to emulate the server-driven
stuff by hand would stymie anyone.

> Moreover, I started looking at the code for some  elegantly simple web
> pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the complexity of
> the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next 12
> months just to get close to learning this stuff.

Have you considered looking at http://www.w3schools.com/htmL/ ?  That's
probably the single best HTML introduction available.

> Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web
> Pages to get something up.

That's a lot like saying your first two tries at making bread produced
patio stones, so you're going to take arsenic now.

Open Office produces much better HTML than Word -- Word's HTML is
proverbially awful -- so if you want to use a WYSIWIG editor to generate
HTML, it's a better choice.

But, really, if you want to learn how to do this, get a decent free HTML
editor for your platform of choice, and start chewing through the
w3schools tutorial.

-- Graydon

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Way OT @ $#*woman throws in towel on writing code*#$@

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not one--for 
any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about html 
and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I might get a 
simple index page up.  Oh my gosh, am I brain dead. (Aside:  as I write 
this, I can hear the most beautiful live xylophone music coming through my 
study window.  It's absolutely delightful.  Someone is playing in his or her 
backyard somewhere across the alley.)  I did, in fact, get something 
written, but oh, is it stinky--and I never did get it just the way I wanted.


On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some code--and I 
learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was successful at linking the 
two, though they didn't link at first, and it took me forever to find the 
typo.  I had written *type="test/css"* instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got 
the jpeg to link to where I *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out 
how to get my little two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still, 
like I said, I'm a bit proud of my meager results here.


But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have no 
problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts when 
learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days I'd be a 
little further along!  Moreover, I started looking at the code for some 
elegantly simple web pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the 
complexity of the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next 
12 months just to get close to learning this stuff.


Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web Pages 
to get something up.


Lastly, to all you Cyber Techie Code Writers who can write this stuff at the 
speed of light, I sincerely tip my hat to you in admiration.  Cheers, 
Christine 




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It's about freaking time...

2009-07-02 Thread Doug Brewer
I updated my old web site. Take a look around and let me know what you 
think. Or not. Up to you.


http://www.alphoto.com

thanks,

Doug

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Re: PESO - Repeat

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  Nice light great concept to the composition.  Wonderfully executed. 
Another nice one, Bruce.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO - Repeat



Same walk, different subject.

Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0675.htm

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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, lovely.  Great Bokeh and composition.  Nice job, Bruce.  Cheers, 
Christine




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Same walk, different weed.

Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm

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Re: PESO - White-faced Heron

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Lovely, Brian.  Light looks fine to me as well as contrast between the bird 
and background rocks.  Great pose and setting for the shot.  Cheers, 
Christine




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Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron



G'day all

I never get sick of seeing these birds.  They're very common but they
are such elegant and attractive creatures.

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html


This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320 mm.  It perhaps lacks
a little contrast between the bird and the background rocks but the
bird's pose was quite striking.

This is a substantial crop of the original frame, upsized back to 6 MP
in multiple steps with a little intermediate sharpening along the way.


Comments appreciated.



Cheers

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Re: 33 years ago

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Hubba, Hubba, Paul.  Great pic.  Nice portrait and visual memory of a time 
past.  It's a keeper. :-) Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO: 33 years ago


I was looking for a negative tonight. Never did find the shot I was 
searching for, but I ran across this self portrait from the summer of 
1976. I vaguely remember setting up a tripod and shooting it myself  with 
my Mamiya 1000 TL and 50 mm lens. Tri-X I'm sure. The race car  was the 
Fever Vette fuel funny car that I wrenched. I think I shot  this after an 
event. It looks like I'm checking the fuel percentage  with a hydrometer, 
which I did prior to every run and again after the  last pass of the day. I 
think I knew my racing days were coming to a  close, and I wanted a 
memento. I don't think I ever printed it.  Perhaps I will now.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9414744&size=lg

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Re: How about we send

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila

Happy belated b-day Dario.  Hope all is well.  Cheers, Christine




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birthday wishes to our man in Italy, Dario Bonazza!

He won't tell which one it is. :—)


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Re: Difficult lighting conditions

2009-07-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Chris:  Well, I think these shots are just stunning.  I, too, like the 
photo Doug picked out, but I have to say, I think it's a great set all 
around.  Really nice work, Chris. I don't see much wrong with the color, and 
I think I prefer them to the black and whites--though I like the bws  very 
much too. You should try and contact the band members and show them your set 
here.  I bet they'd love them.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: Difficult lighting conditions


This is a band called Emerald Sky at Togfest last weekend. The lighting 
was

challenging on this stage - the guy thought red was cool.

I thought I would not have any decent shots for the festival and band's 
use,

but a little tweaking in Lightroom proved otherwise:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Redshift/

Thought this might interest the group. Sequence is original as shot
(Tungsten)/colour balance nearly full blue/B&W conversion (Except the
close-up of the drummer which I liked anyway). Little bit of cropping on
some.

K10D DA* 16-50 and DA*50-135 2.8 (I love the 50-135 2.8 for shooting bands
in low light!)

Chris




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Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?

2009-07-02 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?




Humor aside, I wouldn't use a wire brush on a cylinder head either.
Certainly not on the valve seats or the gasket mating surface. The
proper way to prepare the gasket surface, once any grease or sealant
has been removed with a solvent,  is with a large, flat, dull file and
even strokes. Valve pockets can be cleaned with a wire brush on a
drill, but if the valve seats don't need regrinding, lapping compound,
the valve, and a lapping stick are the proper cleaning tools.

Hey, I get serious about cylinder heads:-).

I used to lap Harley valves in that way when I was wrenching bikes.
I used to get laughed at for being so old fashioned, but the engines I 
worked on always had higher compression when I was done than the guys using 
a power tool got.


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Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?

2009-07-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 03/07/2009, mike wilson  wrote:
> Anthony Farr wrote:
> > 2009/7/2 mike wilson :
> >
> >
> > > Newspaper, vinegar and elbow grease.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Newspaper as a glass polisher is a hangover from the good/bad old days
> > when newsprint ink contained carbon black, the same stuff that
> > Lenspens use.  Modern newsprint ink is plastic based and will only
> > contribute to more smudginess.
> >
>
> That's the theory but I haven't found it to be true in practice.  Works just
> as well as it has always done.

Not so here, even the local rags contain volumes of colour print and
tend to smear significantly.

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Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?

2009-07-02 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Jul 2, 2009, at 15:26 , paul stenquist wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:46 , paul stenquist wrote:
I'd go with a wire brush and kitchen cleanser. You want to make  
sure  you get all the dirt off.
We're not talking cylinder heads here Paul. I'd hate to see your   
windshield!:—)


Humor aside, I wouldn't use a wire brush on a cylinder head either.  
Certainly not on the valve seats or the gasket mating surface. The  
proper way to prepare the gasket surface, once any grease or sealant  
has been removed with a solvent,  is with a large, flat, dull file  
and even strokes. Valve pockets can be cleaned with a wire brush on  
a drill, but if the valve seats don't need regrinding, lapping  
compound, the valve, and a lapping stick are the proper cleaning  
tools.


Hey, I get serious about cylinder heads:-).
Paul



Hey, I was talking a brass wire brush, not steel!   :—)


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RE: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Bob W

> > > > > From: Bob W  that proves that 
> evolution is
> > > > > false. How could it evolve to mimic a leopard in a place that
> > > > > has no leopards, and frogs can't watch wildlife programmes on
> > > > > TV! Get out of that one, Darwin!
> > >   
> > > > Yeah, Graydon..deal with that!! I s'pose leopards could have
> > > > copied those frogs.(?)
> > > > 
> > > > ;)
> > > The frog is the larval form of the leopard.
> > 
> > Hmm. Must try eating leopards' legs in garlic sometime.
> > 
> > > It does not metamorphose to the adult form in North 
> America due to a
> > > lack of antelope anywhere wet enough to have frogs.
> > 
> > why can't they make do with bison?
> 
> When the North American lion went extinct, it did so very rapidly, at
> least in evolutionary terms, and the transfer of predator niche
> paperwork was not done.
> 

that's always been the trouble with lions - no pride in their work.

Bob 


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Re: Peso Two more flowers.

2009-07-02 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:42 -0400, "David J Brooks" 
wrote:
> Some flowers at my sisters house.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9423200
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9423207
> 
> D200, Tamron 90 f2.8 macro, hand held, LR 2
> 



I like the first one.  The off centre composition works well.

The light seems a tad harsh on the second and the shadows on the rear
petal are distracting.  Good colour - might be worth repeating in more
diffuse light.




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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:28:28PM +0100, Bob W scripsit:
> > > > From: Bob W  that proves that evolution is
> > > > false. How could it evolve to mimic a leopard in a place that
> > > > has no leopards, and frogs can't watch wildlife programmes on
> > > > TV! Get out of that one, Darwin!
> >   
> > > Yeah, Graydon..deal with that!! I s'pose leopards could have
> > > copied those frogs.(?)
> > > 
> > > ;)
> > The frog is the larval form of the leopard.
> 
> Hmm. Must try eating leopards' legs in garlic sometime.
> 
> > It does not metamorphose to the adult form in North America due to a
> > lack of antelope anywhere wet enough to have frogs.
> 
> why can't they make do with bison?

When the North American lion went extinct, it did so very rapidly, at
least in evolutionary terms, and the transfer of predator niche
paperwork was not done.

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RE: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Bob W
> > > From: Bob W 
> > > that proves that evolution is false. How could it evolve to
> > > mimic a leopard
> > > in a place that has no leopards, and frogs can't watch
> > > wildlife programmes
> > > on TV! Get out of that one, Darwin!
>   
> > Yeah, Graydon..deal with that!! I s'pose leopards could 
> have copied those frogs.(?)
> > 
> > ;)
> 
> The frog is the larval form of the leopard.
> 

Hmm. Must try eating leopards' legs in garlic sometime.

> It does not metamorphose to the adult form in North America due to a
> lack of antelope anywhere wet enough to have frogs.
> 

why can't they make do with bison?



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Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?

2009-07-02 Thread paul stenquist


On Jul 2, 2009, at 2:53 PM, mike wilson wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:46 , paul stenquist wrote:
I'd go with a wire brush and kitchen cleanser. You want to make  
sure  you get all the dirt off.
We're not talking cylinder heads here Paul. I'd hate to see your   
windshield!:—)


Humor aside, I wouldn't use a wire brush on a cylinder head either.  
Certainly not on the valve seats or the gasket mating surface. The  
proper way to prepare the gasket surface, once any grease or sealant  
has been removed with a solvent,  is with a large, flat, dull file and  
even strokes. Valve pockets can be cleaned with a wire brush on a  
drill, but if the valve seats don't need regrinding, lapping compound,  
the valve, and a lapping stick are the proper cleaning tools.


Hey, I get serious about cylinder heads:-).
Paul



You certainly wouldn't be able to see _through_ it


Paul
On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

Go online and look up the manual. Some scanners have anti-newton   
ring glass or a coating that may require NOT using some  
chemicals.  Plain old glass I'd use the Windex and a paper towel,  
then polish  it with a crumpled up newspaper afterwards.



On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:26 , John Celio wrote:

I've been asked to scan a whole bunch of old photos for my  
boss,  using
her scanner here at work.  The glass is pretty heavily smudged  
and  needs
to be cleaned.  Is it safe to use 70% isopropyl alcohol on it?   
How
about Windex?  I don't have a lot of other options here at  
work,  but if

you have other suggestions I'd love to hear them.



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Re: Cellphones while travelling in the US & Canada

2009-07-02 Thread Igor Roshchin

Paul,

Just in case, - consider buying a cheap unlocked GSM cell phone with the 
right frequencies from e-Bay, and a separate prepaid (and refillable)
sim card - also from eBay.
This way you will be left with a cheap and potentially usable cell phone.
(I am not sure if prepaid cell phones that you buy in Walmart etc 
can be easily unlocked or not).

Very often you can buy some promotional sim-cards on eBay at half the
price of what the minutes are worth otherwise.

Couple years ago I bought couple of sim cards for Tuyo 
(it's an IDT-owned cell phone company using T-mobile's network).
If you are within populated area, T-mobile's network works just fine.
Recharging with Tuyo was just fine (online or over the phone), but
outside of recharing their customer service sucks. Also, their balance
if not renewed expires one day earlier that they claim.
(but what do you care?)
http://www.tuyo.com
(they seem to have coverage in HI as well.)
Also, it has good rates for international calls to many countries from
the US.

HTH,

Igor


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:
> Hi all,
>my girlfriend and I are heading off at the end of the month on a six
> week trip to Hawaii, New York, Montreal and the south-east of Canada. Rather
> than use global roaming and risk large charges from our local (Australian)
> carrier what we have done in the past is buy a cheap phone or a SIM card
> when we get to our destination and use a pre-paid account.
>
> It looks like my antique Nokia is incompatible with US frequencies anyway,
> so the plan is to pop into Walmart and get a cheap pre-paid phone there. Is
> it safe to assume that any carrier with coverage in Hawaii will have
> coverage in New York?   Once we get to Montreal I assume that we will have
> to get a new SIM card, and possibly a new phone if the Walmart one is locked
> to the carrier. Or is their a carrier that makes swapping from the US to
> Canada easy?
>
> If you have any recommendations or a better plan I'd love to hear it.
>
> Paul Ewins
> Melbourne, Australia
>


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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread ann sanfedele



John Francis wrote:


On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:20:46PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
 


On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 07:49:46PM -0400, ann sanfedele scripsit:
   


paul stenquist wrote:
 


Nice shot. Shows off his camouflage in situ. Well done.
   


if you know he's in situ, camouflage can't be that good

(ann ducks)

but seriously...
certainly looks like a leopard frog... good capture  I'd probably ahve  
never seen him
 


Thanks, Ann.

The generic spot-things trick -- hold still, stop talking, and look at
nothing in particular -- works for frogs, too.

And if one can see absolutely no frogs, start looking at the reedy
margins for a heron or a bittern. :)
   



They can be rather hard to spot

ok .. what are the odds again?  (how did I miss making that pun 
earlier???) 


as they are nervous around people -
a pattern of behaviour noted in the aphorism "Once bittern, twice shy".


oy - and we are off again on the happy punishment trail

ann



 



 




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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:20:46PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 07:49:46PM -0400, ann sanfedele scripsit:
> > paul stenquist wrote:
> >> Nice shot. Shows off his camouflage in situ. Well done.
> >
> > if you know he's in situ, camouflage can't be that good
> >
> > (ann ducks)
> >
> > but seriously...
> > certainly looks like a leopard frog... good capture  I'd probably ahve  
> > never seen him
> 
> Thanks, Ann.
> 
> The generic spot-things trick -- hold still, stop talking, and look at
> nothing in particular -- works for frogs, too.
> 
> And if one can see absolutely no frogs, start looking at the reedy
> margins for a heron or a bittern. :)

They can be rather hard to spot, as they are nervous around people -
a pattern of behaviour noted in the aphorism "Once bittern, twice shy".


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Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?

2009-07-02 Thread mike wilson

Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:46 , paul stenquist wrote:

I'd go with a wire brush and kitchen cleanser. You want to make sure  
you get all the dirt off.



We're not talking cylinder heads here Paul. I'd hate to see your  
windshield!:—)


You certainly wouldn't be able to see _through_ it




Paul
On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

Go online and look up the manual. Some scanners have anti-newton  
ring glass or a coating that may require NOT using some chemicals.  
Plain old glass I'd use the Windex and a paper towel, then polish  it 
with a crumpled up newspaper afterwards.



On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:26 , John Celio wrote:


I've been asked to scan a whole bunch of old photos for my boss,  using
her scanner here at work.  The glass is pretty heavily smudged and  
needs

to be cleaned.  Is it safe to use 70% isopropyl alcohol on it?  How
about Windex?  I don't have a lot of other options here at work,  
but if

you have other suggestions I'd love to hear them.



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Re: How about we send

2009-07-02 Thread mike wilson

Joseph McAllister wrote:



On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:22 , Desjardins, Steve wrote:




Bob W wrote:


Well Happy Birthday Dario!
490 again is it?
You've made a great transition from Frescos.


I prefer Cheetos - they're cheesier and crisper.
Bob



faster, too.

oh, wait. that's cheetahs.



I hope the alimony breaks them!

Oh wait. That's cheaters.



And they fly away.

Oh, wait. That's tweeters.



Throw 'em in jail!

Oh, wait. That's beaters


Just thought I would call in and say "Hello!", being a bit of a greeter.

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RE: Difficult lighting conditions

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Thanks for the feedback everyone. The consensus is that I shouldn't be so
paranoid about red lights...

Cheers

Chris

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Difficult lighting conditions
> 
> This is a band called Emerald Sky at Togfest last weekend. The lighting
> was
> challenging on this stage - the guy thought red was cool.
> 
> I thought I would not have any decent shots for the festival and band's
> use,
> but a little tweaking in Lightroom proved otherwise:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Redshift/
> 
> Thought this might interest the group. Sequence is original as shot
> (Tungsten)/colour balance nearly full blue/B&W conversion (Except the
> close-up of the drummer which I liked anyway). Little bit of cropping
> on
> some.
> 
> K10D DA* 16-50 and DA*50-135 2.8 (I love the 50-135 2.8 for shooting
> bands
> in low light!)
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Flatbed glass cleaning?

2009-07-02 Thread mike wilson

Anthony Farr wrote:

2009/7/2 mike wilson :


Newspaper, vinegar and elbow grease.



Newspaper as a glass polisher is a hangover from the good/bad old days
when newsprint ink contained carbon black, the same stuff that
Lenspens use.  Modern newsprint ink is plastic based and will only
contribute to more smudginess.


That's the theory but I haven't found it to be true in practice.  Works 
just as well as it has always done.




CD/DVD cleaning spray is effective and mostly harmless to transparent
plastics if the platen isn't glass.  I believe they're essentially
isopropyl alcohol.  Paper towels contain wood fibre which could be
abrasive.  A well worn, well washed cotton handkerchief is one of the
best cleaning cloths around, because it is absorbent and collects the
grease that the cleaning liquid has released.  Microfibre cloths are
great for buffing cleaning marks off a clean but streaky surface, but
if there's any grease about they'll spread it everywhere as they have
no absorbency.

Once the plate is clean, keep a broad, soft brush handy for whisking
away dust.  I use a sable makeup blusher that has lived on my desk for
years.


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Peso Two more flowers.

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
Some flowers at my sisters house.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9423200

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9423207

D200, Tamron 90 f2.8 macro, hand held, LR 2

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Re: Lightroom and backed up catalogue question

2009-07-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Regards backup, you should always have at least two duplicates, plus
your working copy of the Lightroom .lrcat file in its enclosing
directory, and the entire original image file repository on separate
hard drive volumes. The more the merrier. Use a backup or
synchronizing utility application to do this for you rather than
trying to remember to do it manually. (On Mac OS X, I use ChronoSync
for this purpose. It is excellent and not expensive.)

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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 07:49:46PM -0400, ann sanfedele scripsit:
> paul stenquist wrote:
>> Nice shot. Shows off his camouflage in situ. Well done.
>
> if you know he's in situ, camouflage can't be that good
>
> (ann ducks)
>
> but seriously...
> certainly looks like a leopard frog... good capture  I'd probably ahve  
> never seen him

Thanks, Ann.

The generic spot-things trick -- hold still, stop talking, and look at
nothing in particular -- works for frogs, too.

And if one can see absolutely no frogs, start looking at the reedy
margins for a heron or a bittern. :)

-- Graydon

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Re: Lightroom and backed up catalogue question

2009-07-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
> Complicated question, as it depends on whether or not you actually imported
> the originals (Masters) into Lightroom, or just imported reference files. Do
> you import directly from your memory cards, or copy the files from your
> memory cards to your hard drive, then import them leaving the originals
> where you stored them?
>
> In Aperture on the Mac, your "history" is incorporated into the Aperture
> database, which can be backed up to a "vault" which contains all that info,
> from within the program, I assume in a more compressed form.
>
> Don't know how Lightroom does it.

Lightroom does not have the concept of importing the originals into a
specially maintained file system structure as Aperture does. Importing
in Lightroom parlance means "storing the original image file
locations, file system info and metadata into the database for use".
As a convenience to the importing process, Lightroom can move or copy
the originals to a locate that it will structure for you (by creating
directories in a date oriented hierarchy), but it's up to you to be
sure that the originals are backed up.

To move an entire Lightroom catalog and its original files to an
external drive volume, you move the original files however you have
them organized (most conveniently in one directory tree) to the new
volume, then copy the entire directory containing the Lightroom .lrcat
and .lrdata files there separately.

Once everything has been copied, update the catalog so it uses the
originals in the new location

- double click on the .lrcat file that is located on the external
volume :: that ensures that you update the correct catalog file.
- In the Library module, Folders panel, control-click (right-click on
Windows or if you're using a two-button mouse on Mac OS X) on the
folders that appear there and choose the "Update Folder Location..."
command from the popup menu.
- Navigate to the new location of the folder on the external drive and
click OK.

You'll need to do this for each folder in the Folders panel unless you
have all your folders in one directory tree and have the root folder
of that tree in the Folders panel. If you do, and you do it just once
for the root folder, all the others will be automatically updated as
well. If your Folders panel shows individual folders that you know are
all in the same tree but doesn't show the root folder, you can
right-click on the folders there and choose "Add Parent Folder" ... do
this repeatedly until all your folders are shown as under one root
folder, then update the location of that root folder.

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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:59:23PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
> Nice shot. Shows off his camouflage in situ. Well done.

Thanks, Paul!

That little bit of wetland at the zoo is a good spot; lots of dry
walkway, lots of frogs, bugs, and dragonflies.

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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:38:13PM +1000, Brian Walters scripsit:
> On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:47 -0400, "Graydon"  wrote:
> > I believe a leopard frog, on a rather busy background.
> > 
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dejeXcj1odJczPQtiBt84g?feat=directlink
> 
> Really interesting patterns - I'd love to see it in close up.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/S7V0_gd6LPvOOlIBGCIyTA?feat=directlink

Can't swear that the exact same frog, but it's certainly the same type
of frog.

> Reminds me a bit of our Corroboree Frogs - although they have yellow
> markings and stripes, rather than spots.
> 
> (Hmmm, totally different, really)

Just to start with, ours aren't poisonous. :)

> Anyway:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corroboree_frog

Thanks!

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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 10:02:53PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
> On 1/7/09, Graydon, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >I believe a leopard frog, on a rather busy background.
> >
> >http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dejeXcj1odJczPQtiBt84g?feat=directlink
> 
> You know, that's really fun - I like it. Spot the frog.

Well, then -- here you go; spot the frogs!

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aP1UFlUXQ3exa0yQd5k51g?feat=directlink

(and thanks!)

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Re: PESO: frog

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:14:52PM -0700, Jack Davis scripsit:
> > From: Bob W 
> > that proves that evolution is false. How could it evolve to
> > mimic a leopard
> > in a place that has no leopards, and frogs can't watch
> > wildlife programmes
> > on TV! Get out of that one, Darwin!
  
> Yeah, Graydon..deal with that!! I s'pose leopards could have copied those 
> frogs.(?)
> 
> ;)

The frog is the larval form of the leopard.

It does not metamorphose to the adult form in North America due to a
lack of antelope anywhere wet enough to have frogs.

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Re: Lightroom and backed up catalogue question

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 01:37:23PM -0400, David J Brooks scripsit:
> I guess i need to know, should i back up the catalogue in the same
> directory on my external hard drives trhat house my photos, or does it
> matter. I'm not worried about working on new photos, just getting the
> old history back if i want to do more work on said photo.
> Today i have started to make screen shots, thanks you google, of the
> develop pages so i can go back an see what i did.

I have no idea about Lightroom specifically, but if (as it sounds) it's
using a database to store the history information, the essential thing
is to take your backup to some other machine, load it on to that
machine, and try to use it.  That's about the only way to be sure that
you have got all the necessary bits and pieces in the backup.

I use something called ufraw, which leaves simple text files containing
settings next to the image files; not very flexible, but more robust
than the database approach.

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Re: FS: Pentax K100D Super

2009-07-02 Thread Nick Wright
Larry, just trying to sell it.

M, I do very occasionally post on TOP.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Miserere wrote:
> Good luck selling, Nick! I already have one of these cuties, but I
> hardly ever use it.
>
> By the way, I have a friend called Nick Wright. He shoots Canon, but I
> sometime point to your comments on TOP or PDML and ask him if he's a
> closet Pentaxian. I tell him it's OK to come out, that I'll understand
> and he'll feel all warm and fuzzy  :-)
>
> I'm assuming you're the Nick Wright that comments on TOP... Are you?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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>>
>> K100D Super in excellent shape. Comes with original box. Also has 18-55II 
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>>
>> Asking $300 for the whole kit. Make me an offer, must sell.
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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Same walk, different weed.
>
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8

 i still have that lens, i think i need to set it free for a day or so.:-)

Dave
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm
>
> Comments welcome.
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Re: Exploring Boston: Bromfield Camera

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
Erin and James went to Boston/Salem for Halloween last year and
enjoyed the area a lot. I'm sure you will as well.:-)

That will be a bit of a detour for GFM in future years.:-)

Dave

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:06:17 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Welcome to Boston.  There is another camera dealer in Melrose, a suburb
>>of Boston.
>
> I'll have a look. We'll be living in an apartment in Brookline until
> we buy a house (and we're likely to be looking for a house in the same
> area). It's nice being able to hop on the T and get right into
> downtown.
>
> Melrose isn't even on the map I've got at the moment.
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Re: PESO: Help from a Friend

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
I agree with Rick about the owner / animal look alikes.:-)

Goo job considering the situation.

They allow dogs at our farmers market, they also allow goats, chickens etc.:-0

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:42 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
> The local farmer's market doesn't allow dogs, and I believe the heavies told
> this young lady to carry her dog out. In any event, she doesn't seem
> pleased. (That might be a result of the photographer aiming a camera at
> her.)
>
> I tried to improve the background on this earlier, and it was a miserable
> failure. I posted a PESO anyway, but was thankfully spared comment. It may
> never have shown up here.  In any case, I still don't like the background
> very much, but it is a farmers market, and the original is better than my
> fix. And I find the pic to be a bit of fun overall.
>
> Here it is:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9419517
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Re: Lightroom and backed up catalogue question

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Graydon wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 02:02:51PM -0400, David J Brooks scripsit:
>> Photos are backed up on two separate HD's and also on a DVD.
>> The catalogues are on a third drive.
>>
>> I'm doing this all wrong, aren't I .
>
> Perhaps not all wrong, though burned DVDs generally have a fairly short
> -- couple years -- shelf life.
>
> -- Graydon

True, but its a start.:-)

I guess i need to know, should i back up the catalogue in the same
directory on my external hard drives trhat house my photos, or does it
matter. I'm not worried about working on new photos, just getting the
old history back if i want to do more work on said photo.
Today i have started to make screen shots, thanks you google, of the
develop pages so i can go back an see what i did.

Dave
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Re: PESO - Weed 1

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
This one is very nice.

Simple and a nice BG.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> It has been a while since posting any pesos.  Today my son showed his
> first interest in really doing some photography.  He had a P&S super
> zoom camera, but I loaded him up with a K10D and had him try a few
> lenses.
>
> After work and dinner we took a walk to the park and took pictures.
> This is one of mine.
>
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0674.htm
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> Comments welcome
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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread paul stenquist

Excellent. Love the color combination and composition.
Paul

On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Bruce,
Your walks and weeds/leaves/grass stems are inspiring.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Bruce  
Dayton wrote:

Same walk, different weed.

Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm

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RE: Adorama Lens Prices..Yipe!!

2009-07-02 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I don’t know about Canada, but I think there are some free trade
laws in the USA which don’t allow mfgr.s to restrict seller's
pricing, even their "authorized" dealers.

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Perhaps some restrictions from Pentax to encourage them to not 'kill'
the other/local retailers. (Yes I know, there aren't many N American
retailers except in Saskatchewan where there is a major profit center.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:13 AM, gldnbearz
wrote:
> Both Adorama & B&H are being coy with their price listings.  At 
> Adorama, you have to add the item to your cart to get the actual price

> versus the inflated one.  At B&H, you have to click on the item to get

> the actual price.  Is this some tactic to prevent automated price 
> scanning?
>
> -Pat
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> Never heard of such an odd practice. Don't get it.
>> I immediately went to B&H. Actually, I would have any way.
>>
>> Jack
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Re: Adorama Lens Prices..Yipe!!

2009-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Perhaps some restrictions from Pentax to encourage them to not 'kill'
the other/local retailers.
(Yes I know, there aren't many N American retailers except in
Saskatchewan where there is a major profit center.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:13 AM, gldnbearz wrote:
> Both Adorama & B&H are being coy with their price listings.  At
> Adorama, you have to add the item to your cart to get the actual price
> versus the inflated one.  At B&H, you have to click on the item to get
> the actual price.  Is this some tactic to prevent automated price
> scanning?
>
> -Pat
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> Never heard of such an odd practice. Don't get it.
>> I immediately went to B&H. Actually, I would have any way.
>>
>> Jack
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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bruce,
Your walks and weeds/leaves/grass stems are inspiring.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Same walk, different weed.
>
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm
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> Comments welcome.
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Re: Cellphones while travelling in the US & Canada

2009-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
My recent, but not 'cutting edge', US cell phone worked fine in New
Zealand and Australia.  I just had it unlocked from my carrier in the
US and then bought cards over by you guys.  It might be a cheaper
option to upgrade your phone over there, have it unlocked, and just
buy the sim cards.  How many cally you gonna make?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:
> Hi all,
>        my girlfriend and I are heading off at the end of the month on a six
> week trip to Hawaii, New York, Montreal and the south-east of Canada. Rather
> than use global roaming and risk large charges from our local (Australian)
> carrier what we have done in the past is buy a cheap phone or a SIM card
> when we get to our destination and use a pre-paid account.
>
> It looks like my antique Nokia is incompatible with US frequencies anyway,
> so the plan is to pop into Walmart and get a cheap pre-paid phone there. Is
> it safe to assume that any carrier with coverage in Hawaii will have
> coverage in New York?   Once we get to Montreal I assume that we will have
> to get a new SIM card, and possibly a new phone if the Walmart one is locked
> to the carrier. Or is their a carrier that makes swapping from the US to
> Canada easy?
>
> If you have any recommendations or a better plan I'd love to hear it.
>
> Paul Ewins
> Melbourne, Australia
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Re: PESO - Weed 1

2009-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bruce,
Beautiful, you're an artist!  Is that a caterpillar on the stem to the right?
Give the boy some lessons. Maybe something will rub off.  :-)
Regards, Bob S.

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> It has been a while since posting any pesos.  Today my son showed his
> first interest in really doing some photography.  He had a P&S super
> zoom camera, but I loaded him up with a K10D and had him try a few
> lenses.
>
> After work and dinner we took a walk to the park and took pictures.
> This is one of mine.
>
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0674.htm
>
> Comments welcome
>
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Re: GESO 2009 - Portraits of Friends - GDG

2009-07-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Miserere wrote:
> Is it too late to comment?  :-)

Never too late ... :-)

Thanks for the thoughts and comments. You're reminding me that I have
more to post ... hopefully I'll get to them today. It's been a hell
week.

>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157620421939742/
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Re: GESO 2009 - Portraits of Friends - GDG

2009-07-02 Thread Miserere
Is it too late to comment?  :-)

I love "Lee", awesome. That Godfrey dude looks a bit uncomfortable;
probably not used to being around cameras. Not sure about "Dave &
Felipe", the wide angle does not favour Dave...unless he's naturally
deformed  :-)  However, his expression is great, so it's probably a
keeper. Ah, what the hell, what do I know! LOL!

The sepia toning is fantastic.

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2009/6/23 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
> I've begun a new set: portraits of friends in casual moments, three of which
> I'd posted to FB last week. They're on Flickr now...
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157620421939742/
>
> Comments always appreciated.
>
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Re: Fun with a Tokina SL-400 f5.6

2009-07-02 Thread Miserere
Ha-hah

:-p

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2009/6/29 Cotty :
> On 29/6/09, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Inspired by Tim
>
> Mark ;-)
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> Cheers,
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Re: FS: Pentax K100D Super

2009-07-02 Thread Miserere
Good luck selling, Nick! I already have one of these cuties, but I
hardly ever use it.

By the way, I have a friend called Nick Wright. He shoots Canon, but I
sometime point to your comments on TOP or PDML and ask him if he's a
closet Pentaxian. I tell him it's OK to come out, that I'll understand
and he'll feel all warm and fuzzy  :-)

I'm assuming you're the Nick Wright that comments on TOP... Are you?

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> Sorry, I know its not Friday, this really needs to be sold before Friday.
>
> K100D Super in excellent shape. Comes with original box. Also has 18-55II 
> lens.
>
> Asking $300 for the whole kit. Make me an offer, must sell.
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Re: Exploring Boston: Bromfield Camera

2009-07-02 Thread Miserere
Mark,

Sadly, I know of no "proper" camera stores in Boston. There used to be
plenty of Ritz Camera, including one on Beacon St in Brookline, but
they all closed. Not that they were any help to people like me,
shooting a camera brand that is going to go bust any day now. Ironic
they went bust before Pentax did.

Brookline is a great place, and I would suggest walking into the city
whenever it's for leisure. Plenty of opportunities for street shots on
the way.

Maybe once you're installed we should organise a little PDML Boston
Chapter get-together, to show you not everyone living in Boston is a
masshole. Well, I don't know about John Graves, but I know I'm not
:-D

Hey John, just pulling yer leg  ;-)


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> I'm in Boston for a week, getting things sorted for the move here at
> the end of the month. Today I went out having a look at camera
> shops... and there only seems to be one real camera shop left in
> Boston. It's called Bromfield Camera and it's very small but very
> friendly. Seems to be a real enthusiast's place. Very nice to find.
> Perhaps I'll take some photos of the place later in the week :)
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Re: Opinion wanted on Pose

2009-07-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: "William Robb"
I shot a make up shoot yesterday for a girl in my wife's office. She was 
less than happy with the pictures her photographer gave her, so I offered to 
make it right for her.

This pose was her idea, and I'm not quire sure if I like it.
Opinions welcome.


In wedding photography, I contend only two opinions matter - the bride's 
and the bride's mama.


It's technically well done; well lit. And it's what SHE wanted.

The only thing I would question is why is he staring off into space 
instead of looking at her in adoration? Somewhere in the years ahead 
he's going to pay for that.



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Re: Adorama Lens Prices..Yipe!!

2009-07-02 Thread Miserere
Anyone been following the price hikes in the UK?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=32258727
http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00Tnpq

A quickie survey tells me the FA 50mm f/1.4 has gone up to $250. The
DA 12-24 f/4 is now $720 at B&H; was it this expensive a few weeks
ago? And it finally seems like the FA 35mm f/2 is no more.


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2009/7/2 Joseph McAllister :
> On Jul 1, 2009, at 19:54 , Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> Never heard of such an odd practice. Don't get it.
>> I immediately went to B&H. Actually, I would have any way.
>
> Went to B&H, then checked Amazon, which for the DA*60-250 is about $90 less
> expensive, The "gotchas" are they don't have it in stock yet, and they
> charge tax. So I don't know when I'll get it, and the delivered price is
> about $60 over B&Hs list.
>
> Joseph McAllister
> pentax...@mac.com
>
> “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the
> only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by
> unskilled workers!”
> — Martin G. Wolf, PhD
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Re: PESO - White-faced Heron

2009-07-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
You've done a nice job with this one.  The heron stands out
sufficiently from the background.  The old adage holds true 'You can
never have too much focal length!'

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Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:54:35 AM, you wrote:

BW> G'day all

BW> I never get sick of seeing these birds.  They're very common but they
BW> are such elegant and attractive creatures.

BW> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html


BW> This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320 mm.  It perhaps lacks
BW> a little contrast between the bird and the background rocks but the
BW> bird's pose was quite striking.

BW> This is a substantial crop of the original frame, upsized back to 6 MP
BW> in multiple steps with a little intermediate sharpening along the way.


BW> Comments appreciated.



BW> Cheers

BW> Brian

BW> ++
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Re: PESO: So what do you do..

2009-07-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rob Studdert

...if you're planning limited budget wedding?

Ask your big brother to be photographer and chauffeur of course!

Weddings aren't my forte photographically and severe winds, gray skies
and driving rain (and having to play brother, driver and photographer)
don't lend themselves to induce a stressless day but we all survived
sans tears.

Caveat was no flash, this of course limited the scope for shots but
negated one potential major source of stuff ups and distraction (given
my lack of flash skills). I shot less than I had planned but I think I
did OK with the ones that counted.

The following is one of my favourites from the day, shot up close with
the DA16-45 at 45mm f5.6 1/125 at ISO 500 K20D:

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGK02779.jpg (~550kB)



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Re: PESO: Bailey

2009-07-02 Thread John Sessoms

Thank you all.

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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread Rick Womer

Weed 1 doesn't grab me; maybe it's the somewhat burned-out look of the second 
flower(?) leaf(?) seed thingy(?) from the end.  This one is very nice, graceful 
and subtle, restful to look at.  Vintage Dayton!

Rick

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> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: PESO - Weed 2
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 1:14 AM
> Same walk, different weed.
> 
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm
> 
> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO - Repeat

2009-07-02 Thread Rick Womer

Very nicely seen and beautifully captured, Bruce.  It would seem that the 
composition wouldn't work with everything over to the left, but it actually 
works beautifully.

Rick

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> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: PESO - Repeat
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> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 1:12 AM
> Same walk, different subject.
> 
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0675.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
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Re: Lightroom and backed up catalogue question

2009-07-02 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 02:02:51PM -0400, David J Brooks scripsit:
> Photos are backed up on two separate HD's and also on a DVD.
> The catalogues are on a third drive.
> 
> I'm doing this all wrong, aren't I .

Perhaps not all wrong, though burned DVDs generally have a fairly short
-- couple years -- shelf life.

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Re: PESO - White-faced Heron

2009-07-02 Thread ann sanfedele

yummy--
I love herons, too...  I can't remember seeing this guy ever, not even 
in a zoo.


ann

Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

I never get sick of seeing these birds.  They're very common but they
are such elegant and attractive creatures.

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html


This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320 mm.  It perhaps lacks
a little contrast between the bird and the background rocks but the
bird's pose was quite striking.

This is a substantial crop of the original frame, upsized back to 6 MP
in multiple steps with a little intermediate sharpening along the way.  



Comments appreciated.



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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread ann sanfedele



Jack Davis wrote:


Exceedingly well done. Love it!

Jack


ditto.  prettier weed than the first one, too.  restful and good bokeh

ann



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From: Bruce Dayton 
Subject: PESO - Weed 2
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 10:14 PM
Same walk, different weed.

Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm

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Re: Cellphones while travelling in the US & Canada

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
This may help for Canada.

http://www.cellphones.ca/cell-plans/908/

I have one cell phone on an emergency plan, and one for Liz, a Rogers
pay as you go phone. Buy a card and just add the minutes. The cost of
the phone is usually around $100, or at least it was.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:21 AM, gldnbearz wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Yes, you can purchase a pre-paid GSM phone at Walmart or Target
> stores.  Look for carriers in the USA such as AT&T or T-mobile who
> both use SIM cards.  The Verizon carrier also sells pre-paid phones,
> but to my knowledge, don't use SIM cards.
>
> In Canada, one of the major GSM carriers is Rogers. My AT&T phone
> changes over to the Rogers network when I cross the border, but I
> incur international charges if I use the phone.  I have never been in
> Canada long enough to try the pre-paid SIM card option.
>
> Check the details with the USA carriers if they provide nationwide
> (Hawaii & New York coverage) - regular monthly plan holders usually
> get coverage like this.  It has been some years since I bought one of
> these for my mom and the details are foggy.
>
> HTH.
> -Pat
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>        my girlfriend and I are heading off at the end of the month on a six
>> week trip to Hawaii, New York, Montreal and the south-east of Canada. Rather
>> than use global roaming and risk large charges from our local (Australian)
>> carrier what we have done in the past is buy a cheap phone or a SIM card
>> when we get to our destination and use a pre-paid account.
>>
>> It looks like my antique Nokia is incompatible with US frequencies anyway,
>> so the plan is to pop into Walmart and get a cheap pre-paid phone there. Is
>> it safe to assume that any carrier with coverage in Hawaii will have
>> coverage in New York?   Once we get to Montreal I assume that we will have
>> to get a new SIM card, and possibly a new phone if the Walmart one is locked
>> to the carrier. Or is their a carrier that makes swapping from the US to
>> Canada easy?
>>
>> If you have any recommendations or a better plan I'd love to hear it.
>>
>> Paul Ewins
>> Melbourne, Australia
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Re: PESO - Repeat

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
I really like the position of the smaller leaf in front.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Same walk, different subject.
>
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0675.htm
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> Comments welcome
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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread David J Brooks
The back ground works very nicely with the subject.

Well done.

Dave

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> Same walk, different weed.
>
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm
>
> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO - White-faced Heron

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Davis

Monochrome look is just fine for me. Low lighting is a little stark, but the 
heron's (?) shape plays well against the highly textured boulders.

Jack

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Brian Walters  wrote:

> From: Brian Walters 
> Subject: PESO - White-faced Heron
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:54 AM
> G'day all
> 
> I never get sick of seeing these birds.  They're very
> common but they
> are such elegant and attractive creatures.
> 
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html
> 
> 
> This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320
> mm.  It perhaps lacks
> a little contrast between the bird and the background rocks
> but the
> bird's pose was quite striking.
> 
> This is a substantial crop of the original frame, upsized
> back to 6 MP
> in multiple steps with a little intermediate sharpening
> along the way.  
> 
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
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PESO - White-faced Heron

2009-07-02 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

I never get sick of seeing these birds.  They're very common but they
are such elegant and attractive creatures.

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/147837/White-faced_Heron.html


This was taken hand held with the trusty FA 80-320 mm.  It perhaps lacks
a little contrast between the bird and the background rocks but the
bird's pose was quite striking.

This is a substantial crop of the original frame, upsized back to 6 MP
in multiple steps with a little intermediate sharpening along the way.  


Comments appreciated.



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Re: PESO - Weed 2

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Davis

Exceedingly well done. Love it!

Jack

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> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: PESO - Weed 2
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> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 10:14 PM
> Same walk, different weed.
> 
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/8
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0680.htm
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
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Re: PESO - Repeat

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Davis

I like this, Bruce. Very well seen and composed.

Jack

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: PESO - Repeat
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 10:12 PM
> Same walk, different subject.
> 
> Pentax K20D, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/6.7
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0675.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
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Re: PESO: Cattail Re-Do

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Davis

Good idea, Brian. ;)
Thanks!

Jack

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Brian Walters  wrote:

> From: Brian Walters 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Cattail Re-Do
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> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 10:00 PM
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:25 -0700, jdavi...@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> > 
> > Actually this isn't exactly a "re-do", but another
> shot of the same
> > lonesome cattail. Taken the next day and with a
> different sky and light
> > angle. Thin sunlight filtering through the clouds and
> seen at the
> > uppermost tip of the cattail.
> > Has sort of an aluminum foil look about it.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Somehow I missed the previous one.
> 
> The simplicity and central composition works, particularly
> against that
> metallic background.
> 
> A better title might have been "Up Periscope". 
> :-)>
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: PESO: 33 years ago

2009-07-02 Thread paul stenquist


On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:50 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:22 -0400, "paul stenquist"
 wrote:

I was looking for a negative tonight. Never did find the shot I was
searching for, but I ran across this self portrait from the summer of
1976. I vaguely remember setting up a tripod and shooting it myself
with my Mamiya 1000 TL and 50 mm lens. Tri-X I'm sure. The race car
was the Fever Vette fuel funny car that I wrenched. I think I shot
this after an event. It looks like I'm checking the fuel percentage
with a hydrometer, which I did prior to every run and again after the
last pass of the day. I think I knew my racing days were coming to a
close, and I wanted a memento. I don't think I ever printed it.
Perhaps I will now.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9414744&size=lg




Ah the memories

Nice moustache.  I had one of those.  Actually, I still do.



So do I. Thanks to all for the nice comments.
Paul


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Re: Optio W60 compared

2009-07-02 Thread Jaume Lahuerta

> De: Dario Bonazza 
> 
> Not a bad performance against Canon, Fuji and Olympus waterproof cameras:
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q209waterproofgroup/
> 

It is a shame that the new W80 wasn't available for this test. It for sure 
would have scored better in some areas...

Jaume



  

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Re: Adorama Lens Prices..Yipe!!

2009-07-02 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 1, 2009, at 19:54 , Jack Davis wrote:


Never heard of such an odd practice. Don't get it.
I immediately went to B&H. Actually, I would have any way.


Went to B&H, then checked Amazon, which for the DA*60-250 is about $90  
less expensive, The "gotchas" are they don't have it in stock yet, and  
they charge tax. So I don't know when I'll get it, and the delivered  
price is about $60 over B&Hs list.


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Re: How about we send

2009-07-02 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thanks to Bob and Dave, and to all liking my frescos :-)
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan" 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: How about we send


Well Happy Birthday Dario!
490 again is it?
You've made a great transition from Frescos.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Dario Bonazza 
wrote:
Hey, nobody told me anything like that over the 490 years I've been on 
this

Earth!
LOL
Thanks Joe and Dave.

Dario

- Original Message - From: "David Savage" 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: How about we send



Dario is a bit of a rnaissance man, so I'd say he' between 300-600 y.o.

DS


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birthday wishes to our man in Italy, Dario Bonazza!

He won't tell which one it is. :-)


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Optio W60 compared

2009-07-02 Thread Dario Bonazza

Not a bad performance against Canon, Fuji and Olympus waterproof cameras:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q209waterproofgroup/

Dario

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