Re: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Jens]

Yis, thus is vary finny:-)

It reminds me of the TV show 'allo 'allo (Hallo Hallo).
The actors actually all spoke English. But still they were able to speak French 
with a german accent. Still in English, of cource. Brilliant show :-)

The JOBO Photo GPS has a Geo Hint button. This can be pressed before or after 
endtering locations (inside buildings etc.) with no or poor GPS signal AND for 
situations where I must use shutter speeds faster than 1/180 sec. If I press 
this button when changing lovation, the software for teh JOBO Photo GPS will 
still be able to tag the images reasonably accurate. The more ofte I press the 
Geo Hint button, the more accurate geotagging. I practice the limitations 
provided by Pentax (not activating the hot-shoe at fast shutter speeds) will 
not be a great problom. Unless of cource I want to geotag my aerial photograps, 
wher shutterspeeds typically will be faster than 1/1000 secs - and I wont have 
time to press the Geo Hint Button. In situations like aerial photography I will 
just use annother tracer.

Jens  

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On Nov 13, 2009 06:03 "Ken Waller"  wrote:
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Anthony Farr" 
> 
> 
> > 2009/11/13 Ken Waller :
> >>
> >> Kenneth Waller
> >> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
> >>
> >> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist"
> >>  >>>
> >>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> >>>
>  William Robb wrote:
> 
> > From: "David J Brooks"
> >
>  I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000
>  sec".
> >>>
> >>> I as well. It really piqued my interest.
> >>
> >> Its been scaled back
> >
> > Very finny.
> 
>  Gill-ty as charged.
> 
> >>> Sounds like someone's casting for puns. I'm hooked.
> >>
> >> Along similar lines, that was reely good.
> >>> 
> > I'd like to respond, but I'm not sure I can tackle it.
> 
> I'm not gonna fall for that line...
> 
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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Brian Walters]

Hi Marnie

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:18 -0500, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/10/2009 4:35:43 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
> supera1...@fastmail.fm writes:
> G'day all
> 
> I'm in  two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is divided
> diagonally  and the looped chain.  But I'm just not sure  overall
> 
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html
> 
> 
> Comments  appreciated.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ===
> I think it work  better B&W.
 

Yes, it is pretty monotone.  I had a bit of a play with a BW conversion
but I think I prefer the colour, what there is of it!

Here's what I came up with:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP4421peso-bw.jpg



Cheers

Brian

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2 Funny PESOs: Street Clown and a Ghostbuster

[Igor Roshchin]

1. I took this shot in Turin, Italy in September:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Italy2009/_IRP0141.jpg

A clown was staying at the street intersection, doing some funny tricks
in front of the traffic stopped for the red light.
As we crossed the street he tried to follow us. 
I had my camera in my hand, but it was a second or two and no time to
look through the viewfinder - I shot it "from the hip".


2.  The second one is a photo of a ghostbuster:
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Italy2009/_IRP0486.jpg

Taken at the Castle of Pavone near Turin.
( http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Italy2009/_IRP0446.jpg )

Igor


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[mike wilson]

Two big advantages to me of digital:
1. A huge back catalogue of recordings is now available that had ceased 
to be so on vinyl.

2. They are much safer (for them...) to be played when inebriated.

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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[mike wilson]

Jens wrote:


In order to solve the problem described below, I wonder if it is at all 
possible to fire a flash at 1/1000 secs?

I have discovered, that if I fire the camera at 1/1000 secs a split second 
after activating the RTF, it will actually fire, as long as the  RFT is not 
fully charged yet.

Is there a way to engage such a function - for instance in a mode designed for 
strobo flash functions?



I thought the modern offerings had a burst mode for high speed flash?

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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Waller" 
Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?







I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


Sounds like someone's casting for puns. I'm hooked.


Along similar lines, that was reely good.



I'd like to respond, but I'm not sure I can tackle it.


I'm not gonna fall for that line...


Being a bit koi are we?


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Scott Loveless]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> you know, I'd love to have an RD-1s, but the glass to go with it, and I'd
> want real M glass, you know, it's just freaking expensive.

If you buy the ugly stuff from KEH it's only slightly more expensive
than new Pentax glass.

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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Tom C]

Funny. Around 1992, my son (1.5 yr. old) took the Donkey Kong Atari
800 cartridge and attempted to put it in the Panasonic VCR. "I anta
play onkey Kong mama".

Tom

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Desjardins, Steve  wrote:
> I remember the time we borrowed a turntable to play some LPs for a music 
> course my wife was taking.  My daughter was fascinated and thought we should 
> get one.  This was also shortly after she had tried to shove an old 45 she 
> found in a kid's book into our CD player.
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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[mike wilson]

Boris Liberman wrote:


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:53 AM, mike wilson  wrote:


Desjardins, Steve wrote:



In theory I guess you could also make an interchangeable sensor with a
lens mount on it.  Or someone else could.


Such an obvious next step that I am astonished that nobody at Ricoh thought
of it.  Actually, looking at the near total ineptness of most management
that I have interacted with, I am not really that suprised.



I respectfully disagree here, gentlemen. The problem is alignment
precision, especially with time, after sensor has been changed many
times, can becomes either source of technological problem and
consequently - high price or alternatively, it can make the user life
miserable.


My understanding of the design is that the lens and sensor come as one 
unit.  In the case of the sensor with lens mount, there will be no more 
alignment problems than exist presently.


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Tom C]

I just purchased all the Beatles remastered CD's in Stereo within the
last two months.  There is a HUGE difference that I can hear, compared
to the earlier CD's.   Yay!

OTOH...That kind of sucks because now I want to hear what they sound
like on LP ($30- $50/per new LP), with a decent system.

I'm guessing that even on mediocre playback gear I'll hear more on
LPs, based on my lone, recently purchased, 20+ year old Beatles
compilation LP.

It's getting better all the the time, here comes the sun, baby you can
drive my car, beep beep, mmm, beep beep, YEAH!

Tom



On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:26 AM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> Actually, no, old CDs are not in general really much better mastered
> than new ones. While the loudness wars and dynamic compression
> do degrade CD sound on many newer CDs, many many older CDs didn't have
> this
> compression added at all but are nevertheless still awful sounding
> compared to the LP due to GENERALLY poor CD mastering (wrong tapes,
> poorly aligned
> tape machines, poor A/D converters, etc.). In some cases, the
> remastered editions of a given CD are way BETTER than the
> original CD.
>
> But it cannot be overstated, even with perfect mastering,
> the CD format, at its best, cannot match the LP format at
> its best. There is an inherent difference in quality between
> the formats even if you cast aside any mastering or over
> processing problems CD often has In other words, with
> truly great hi rez master recordings, NO CD version will never sound as
> good
> as a well mastered LP version with good LP playback gear,
> even if you don't "add loudness" to the CD version.
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> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Boros Attila
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:15 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
>
>
> Hello Tom,
>
> Thursday, November 12, 2009, 8:46:48 AM, you wrote:
>
> 
>
> TC> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage LP'S (OK,
> TC> 99% Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca, and
> TC> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a vintage turntable
> TC> and a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of
> TC> speakers.
>
> TC> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of musical detail I
> TC> can hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any
> TC> better) are just superb.  It sounds like real music and real voices.
>
> Old recordings are much better mastered than new ones. This is sad but
> true. Some references:
>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/1619/the_death_of_high_fideli
> ty/print
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
>
> Enjoy your new-old equipment:)
>
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Farr" 




2009/11/13 Ken Waller :


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist"


On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


William Robb wrote:


From: "David J Brooks"


I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


Sounds like someone's casting for puns. I'm hooked.


Along similar lines, that was reely good.



I'd like to respond, but I'm not sure I can tackle it.


I'm not gonna fall for that line...


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Anthony Farr]

2009/11/13 Ken Waller :
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist"
> 
>
> Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?
>
>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> William Robb wrote:
>>>
 From: "David J Brooks"

>>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>>
>> I as well. It really piqued my interest.
>
> Its been scaled back

 Very finny.
>>>
>>> Gill-ty as charged.
>>>
>> Sounds like someone's casting for puns. I'm hooked.
>
> Along similar lines, that was reely good.
>

I'd like to respond, but I'm not sure I can tackle it.

regards, Anthony

   "Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)

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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Stan Halpin" 


Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?




On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:07 PM, William Robb wrote:





Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?





I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.

Gill-ty as charged.

I sea you all got hooked on this thread just for the halibut.


It was salmon to do.


I think we need to tuna this thread around.


I cod, if I really had to.


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Re: PESO corset and lace

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 


Subject: Re: PESO corset and lace



Ken Waller wrote:


From: "frank theriault" 


David J Brooks  wrote:

Of corset i like it.


It's a cinch you would.


Better be careful or you'll get waisted.


That's just a gut reaction.


That's a cinch for sure.


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "paul stenquist" 


Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?




On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


William Robb wrote:


From: "David J Brooks"


I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


Sounds like someone's casting for puns. I'm hooked.


Along similar lines, that was reely good.

.

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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

[Boris Liberman]

Drat, I missed this PUG. Galia's been producing some good photos 
throughout the year...


*sigh*

Frank, I was rather hmmm pleasantly surprised to see you in this hmmm 
well - is it called tuxedo??? ;-)


Boris


Scott Loveless wrote:

November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/

Next month's is "Film".  Liberal interpretation allowed for those of
you without a proper camera.




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Re: OT - funny ambiguous headline

[ann sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:


Anthony Farr wrote:


I just saw this headline at my local fishwrap's website,
"Dead woman could be 'difficult to be around' ".
In this weather and without a nose-peg, I'd agree.

Article is at:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/dead-woman-could-be-difficult-to-be-around-20091112-icg8.html
but it's not particularly interesting apart from the amusing headline.

Bad taste mode disengaged.
   



I'll pass this on to my S.O. the pathologist.
She'll like it!

So will a bunch of guys that work in a morgue, I imagine .  
someone should send that to Jay Leno


ann



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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

[ann sanfedele]

Scott - I may be partial to Megan's shot cause I can say I knew her when 
:-)


She needs here own gear now!

really a sweet gallery and love the comments by the kids...  


ann

Scott Loveless wrote:


November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/

Next month's is "Film".  Liberal interpretation allowed for those of
you without a proper camera.

 





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Re: OT - funny ambiguous headline

[Anthony Farr]

The paper's homepage has a different list of "top 5 news articles"
(actually four different lists for each of the capital city newspapers
of that agency).  I'd guess the list on the article page links to
similar stories, and the list changes according to the tone of the
article you are reading.

FWIW, the motorcyclist didn't hit the kangaroo in Bondi Junction, he
merely lived there - but not any more :-(  The accident happened
several hundred kliks out of town.  Kangaroos only hop down the
streets of Sydney if they escape from a zoo.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)



2009/11/13 Mark Roberts :
>>http://www.smh.com.au/national/dead-woman-could-be-difficult-to-be-around-20091112-icg8.html
>
> Also from that page:
>
> Top National articles
> 1. Stabbed man dies in front yard
> 2. Bondi Junction motorcyclist hits kangaroo, slides into path of
> oncoming car
> 3. Car owner bashed ranger and bit his cheek
> 4. Dead woman could be 'difficult to be around'
> 5. Suspect 'resented' father and sister
>
> Gosh, Auustralia sounds like a barrel of laughs.
>
>
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Re: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Tom C]

Thanks for that insight J.C.

Tom

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:43 AM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> I like you, fell victim to CD in the mid 80's but I was lucky
> enough to "rediscover" vinyl around 20 years ago so I only strayed
> from vinyl for about 5 years. With good gear and good records, vinyl
> simply makes CD sound like what it is, a noise free, not audibly
> distorted, but LOW RESOLUTION format. Add to that the fact that
> there are way way more poorly mastered CD than poorly mastered
> LPS and you have a format that never matches a good LP and often
> doesn't even come close due to the poorer mastering problems
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>
> OMG!... sorry for, the OT...
>
> I know my observations, forthcoming, are not scientific and subjective
> to the extreme... BUT...
>
> Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and never looked back. The
> apparent 0 background noise, no clicking, pops, dust, made me love CD's.
>
> My son told me two months ago that he was interested in vinyl records.
> That's all it took to make me start looking around at vintage gear. I've
> kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics all-purpose AV receiver, quite
> well spec'd and all, with either Bose Acoustimass speakers and/or
> whatever is installed in the ceiling of our home.
>
> I started out planning on giving him my early '80's Kenwood 30W/channel
> system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a mint Technics TT and a better than
> average cartridge.  He would choose the loudspeakers.
>
> Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was interested in reel-to-reel,
> something I always wanted, but I opted for cassette back in earlier
> years for $ reason and because I could make a tape and play it in the
> car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S 4-track.  My Kenwood system,
> quite nice, but all I could afford at 21 yrs. old, does not accomodate
> the necessary tape inputs/outputs, dubbing, etc., and has no speaker A/B
> for a possible sub-woofer.  So onto look at more amps.
>
> I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel receiver & perfect Pioneer CD
> changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood KA-3500 40W/channel integrated
> amp and got it for $31.  I subsequently saw a 65W/channel late '70's
> Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in mint condition with the silver fronts,
> wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and analog tuning for $260 + shipping.
> He liked it the best out of the bunch, and we got it.
>
> He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made) speakers which are quite good
> (also my pick of the affordable ones we demo'd) and which are due to
> arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid '80's B&W English-made speakers
> for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a whim.
>
> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage LP'S (OK, 99%
> Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca, and
> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a vintage turntable and a
> cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of speakers.
>
> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of musical detail I can
> hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any better) are
> just superb.  It sounds like real music and real voices.
>
> Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL tower speakers I could
> afford when I was much younger were not as good as what I'm listening to
> at the moment.  Just the musicality of what I'm hearing on 20-30 year
> old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is astounding (I purchased 214,
> played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics receiver, cassette deck, a 2nd
> pretty good TT, and speakers (worthless), for $250). It was worth 2x-3x
> more than that for the LP's alone.  What I'm hearing is really better
> than what I hear on CD or iPod.
>
> Simply amazed... not over-imbibed, just astounded.  I got my hearing
> back.
>
> In between all that I found a '80's Pioneer 100W/channel amp, tuner, EQ,
> and timer for $95 in like new condition, which I got solely for the EQ &
> timer.
>
> (I'm not going to tell you this led to me getting a mint Denon amp &
> mint B&W speakers for myself... now looking for the right TT & tuner).
>
> It's not bad, living vicariously through your children.
>
> Tom
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Re: OT - funny ambiguous headline

[Mark Roberts]

>http://www.smh.com.au/national/dead-woman-could-be-difficult-to-be-around-20091112-icg8.html

Also from that page:

Top National articles
1. Stabbed man dies in front yard
2. Bondi Junction motorcyclist hits kangaroo, slides into path of
oncoming car
3. Car owner bashed ranger and bit his cheek
4. Dead woman could be 'difficult to be around'
5. Suspect 'resented' father and sister 

Gosh, Auustralia sounds like a barrel of laughs.


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PESO - Can't You Read the Sign?

[frank theriault]

Taken outside a nearby schoolyard:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/cant-you-read-sign.html

Comments welcome.

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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Stan Halpin]

On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:07 PM, William Robb wrote:

> 
> 
>> Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?
> 
 
>>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>> 
>> I as well. It really piqued my interest.
> 
> Its been scaled back
 
 Very finny.
>>> Gill-ty as charged.
>> I sea you all got hooked on this thread just for the halibut.
> 
> It was salmon to do.

I think we need to tuna this thread around.



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Re: PESO: Downed Tree

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> ... or Hurricane Ida visits Raleigh, NC ... Tropical Storm Ida by the time
> it got here I guess.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4098519926/in/photostream/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4098521224/in/photostream/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4098699894/in/photostream/
>
> I was sitting at my desk reading PDML digests when I heard the tree fall. I
> made sure it hadn't fallen on my house, and then went down the street
> looking for it.
>
> In the photo with the police car, you can see the driveway on the right.
> That's the neighbor whose back yard is behind my backyard. The house where
> the tree is located is in the next block down the street from my house.
>
> In the "Big Tree Stump" photo, you can see where the tree hit the roof of
> the house when it broke off. The house has been empty for almost a year now,
> the owner lives out of town and has been coming around on weekends working
> on the house.
>
> I had one window pane blown out by the storm, and I'll have to fix it once
> the weather clears. Window's about 15' off the ground, so I'll have to get a
> ladder out to remove the sash.
>
> Sooner or later I've got to replace or rebuild all the window sashes in this
> house, and I guess now is as good a time as any to get started on that job.
> Rebuilding them costs less, and it's a job I know how to do and have the
> tools for.

Good documentary pix.  Glad no one was hurt!

cheers,
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Re: OT - funny ambiguous headline

[Mark Roberts]

Anthony Farr wrote:

>I just saw this headline at my local fishwrap's website,
>"Dead woman could be 'difficult to be around' ".
>In this weather and without a nose-peg, I'd agree.
>
>Article is at:
>http://www.smh.com.au/national/dead-woman-could-be-difficult-to-be-around-20091112-icg8.html
>but it's not particularly interesting apart from the amusing headline.
>
>Bad taste mode disengaged.

I'll pass this on to my S.O. the pathologist.
She'll like it!

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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

[Mark Roberts]

Oh yeah: FANTASTIC gallery. Loved every one but Mum and Dad by Katy
Wilson  stood out for me.


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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

[Mark Roberts]

Scott Loveless wrote:

>November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/

Wow. It seems like just a few days since the October PUG went up.

;-)





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Re: PESO corset and lace

[Mark Roberts]

Ken Waller wrote:

>From: "frank theriault" 
>
>> David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> Of corset i like it.
>>
>> It's a cinch you would.
>
>Better be careful or you'll get waisted.

That's just a gut reaction.

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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

[paul stenquist]

On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Scott Loveless  
 wrote:

On 11/12/09, David J Brooks  wrote:

Crap.
 I was going to submit a shot from Erin, that she took on her last
 vacation out east.


Maybe we need a "crap I forgot to submit last year" theme.


I'd probably forget



Grace has a camera with a 2 gig SD card in it. I'm embarrassed to say  
that I haven't downloaded it even once. (It's a bit of a pain in the  
butt to get the card out. Tools required.) Anyway, I meant to see what  
she shot. Gotta do it soon.

Paul


Dave


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OT - funny ambiguous headline

[Anthony Farr]

I just saw this headline at my local fishwrap's website,
"Dead woman could be 'difficult to be around' ".
In this weather and without a nose-peg, I'd agree.

Article is at:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/dead-woman-could-be-difficult-to-be-around-20091112-icg8.html
but it's not particularly interesting apart from the amusing headline.

Bad taste mode disengaged.

regards, Anthony

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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[paul stenquist]

On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


William Robb wrote:


From: "David J Brooks"


I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


Sounds like someone's casting for puns. I'm hooked.


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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> On 11/12/09, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Crap.
>>  I was going to submit a shot from Erin, that she took on her last
>>  vacation out east.
>
> Maybe we need a "crap I forgot to submit last year" theme.

I'd probably forget

Dave
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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

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On 11/12/09, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Crap.
>  I was going to submit a shot from Erin, that she took on her last
>  vacation out east.

Maybe we need a "crap I forgot to submit last year" theme.

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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

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Crap.
I was going to submit a shot from Erin, that she took on her last
vacation out east.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> Next month's is "Film".  Liberal interpretation allowed for those of
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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

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And a great little gallery it is.

BTW knarF, CONGRATULATIONS ! 


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Subject: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up



November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/

Next month's is "Film".  Liberal interpretation allowed for those of
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Re: Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

[Bruce Walker]

Scott Loveless wrote:

November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/
  


What a great gallery!  I got a huge smile and laugh from every one.  
Can't pick a fave--loved 'em all.


(I couldn't "rent a kid" for love or money 'round here; it's too bad.)



Next month's is "Film".  Liberal interpretation allowed for those of
you without a proper camera.
  


Oh terrific.  First I'm supposed to interpret vernacular.  Now I'm 
supposed to figure out "liberal interpretation of film".  Yeesh.  :-)


-bmw

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Re: How can I fire a flash at 1/1000 secs?

[Peter Loveday]

I will let you guys know when and if I get answers.


I don't think there's much JOBO can do about it, the camera simply doesn't 
signal the GPS.


If there is a way I'd be very interested.  I have previously tried to fire a 
slaved camera using RF triggers this way (such that a stationary camera on a 
tripod would take a shot from a different angle every time I take one 
myself).  It works great, but not above 1/180 :(


Please Pentax, give us an option to trigger the flash no matter what.

- Peter


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Desjardins, Steve]

I've haddock with these pun threads.
Steve Desjardins

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Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?



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- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" 
Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?


> 
> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?
>> 
>> 
> 

>>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>>
>> I as well. It really piqued my interest.
>
>Its been scaled back

Very finny.
>>> 
>>> Gill-ty as charged.
>> 
>> I sea you all got hooked on this thread just for the halibut.
> 
> It was salmon to do.

An here I thought it was just a fluke.


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Pentax Kids! or November PUG is up

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November PUG is up at http://pug.komkon.org/

Next month's is "Film".  Liberal interpretation allowed for those of
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Ken Waller]

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- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" 

Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?







Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?







I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


I sea you all got hooked on this thread just for the halibut.


It was salmon to do.


An here I thought it was just a fluke.


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Doug Brewer]

Cotty wrote:

On 12/11/09, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


hey Tom, buddy, I'm interested in a digital rangefinder...


By the by, someone emailed me this link...

§



you know, I'd love to have an RD-1s, but the glass to go with it, and 
I'd want real M glass, you know, it's just freaking expensive.


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

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Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?







I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


I sea you all got hooked on this thread just for the halibut.


It was salmon to do.



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Re: PESO corset and lace

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From: "frank theriault" 

Subject: Re: PESO corset and lace


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David J Brooks  
wrote:

Of corset i like it.


It's a cinch you would.


Better be careful or you'll get waisted.



cheers,
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Ken Waller]

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From: "Mark Roberts" 


Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?



William Robb wrote:

From: "David J Brooks" 


I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


I sea you all got hooked on this thread just for the halibut.


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Re: PESO: two tries....

[wendy beard]

Nah, just buy a K7 :-)

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sandra Hermann  wrote:
> I'm thinking I must not be on the level this month!  Are maybe I think it's 
> art?  Maybe I should steal my dad's little level and try to use it next time 
> I take a picture.  Then again, I would probably be half a bubble off anyway 
> so it wouldn't work.
> sandy
>
>  Help me support Autism research!  Join my 
> team!  http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blubiconsbuddies
>  http://stampmine.blogspot.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/
>
>
> --- On Sat, 11/7/09, eckinator  wrote:
>
>> From: eckinator 
>> Subject: Re: PESO: twp tries
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:30 PM
>> Really like them both... phantastic
>> light effect on the 2nd one and
>> the 1st is just plain nice... and who needs a level horizon
>> anyway ]=)
>> Cheers
>> Ecke
>>
>> 2009/11/8 Sandra Hermann :
>> > I've been playing again.  Here are some of the
>> results.
>> >
>> > http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/dad-and-sami-b.html
>> >
>> > http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/tree-overlooking-marsh.html
>> >
>> > I think I really enjoy working with this computer and
>> my pictures.  I seem to be spending more time with the
>> photographs than I used to.
>> >


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

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On 12/11/09, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>hey Tom, buddy, I'm interested in a digital rangefinder...

By the by, someone emailed me this link...

§

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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Mark Roberts]

Christine  Aguila wrote:

>
>From: "Mark Roberts" 
>>
>> BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business
>> I highly recommend a book I just picked up, "Getting Permission" by
>> Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an
>> IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers
>> licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more.
>
>Excellent!  I was just about to look for such a book, and when I do my 
>photography bibliograhy, I'll include this title.

I almost forgot: This book also includes a CD with a large selection
of legal documents for you to use: Model releases, property releases,
art and merchandise licenses, and a whole lot more.


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Cotty]

>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>
> I as well. It really piqued my interest.

Its been scaled back
>>>
>>>Very finny.
>>
>> Gill-ty as charged.
>
>I new I smelt a pun thread coming; it's been a while.

Time to mullet over?


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Jack Davis]

Two finnys in a roe?

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, eckinator  wrote:

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> Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:30 PM
> fin'ished even...
> 
> 2009/11/12 David J Brooks :
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Bran Everseeking
> > 
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:42:14 -0500
> >> "Desjardins, Steve" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish
> at 1/1000 sec".
> >>
> >> I as well.   It really piqued my interest.
> >
> > Its been scaled back
> >
> > Dave
> >>
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?



William Robb wrote:

From: "David J Brooks" 


I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


Gill-ty as charged.


I new I smelt a pun thread coming; it's been a while.


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Re: for Rick Womer

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: for Rick Womer


Gosh, Christine, that is very kind of you.  I am greatly flattered.  I 
really like the pic, too.


No prob, Rick.  I forgot to add in my original post that I thought you'd do 
a *better* job at making this pic than I would.  Anyway,  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Christine Aguila]

From: "Mark Roberts" 


BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business
I highly recommend a book I just picked up, "Getting Permission" by
Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an
IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers
licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more.



Excellent!  I was just about to look for such a book, and when I do my 
photography bibliograhy, I'll include this title.  Thanks, Mark.  Cheers, 
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Mark Roberts]

William Robb wrote:

>From: "David J Brooks" 
>
 I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>>>
>>> I as well. It really piqued my interest.
>>
>>Its been scaled back
>
>Very finny.

Gill-ty as charged.


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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:39:51 -0500
frank theriault  wrote:

> I'm sure I've been on some CSIS list for a while.  I used to belong to
> a group...

Just one?  Most of my joining was done well before we had an
independent agency though... still show up at event these days though.

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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[steve harley]

On 2009-11-12 10:44 , David J Brooks wrote:

The Source sells a trun table that can DL the Vynal onto the computer
and or ipod. Might just get one. I'll have to see if having USB 1.1 is
a limiter. Lat i checked at the source is it does not work on a Mac,
or at least did not at the time. I have firewire and USB 2 on this.


a good used turntable plus a USB audio interface will do much better 
(some interfaces can't handle the low level signal and bias of a 
turntable output, in which case something like a Rolls phono preamp or a 
used receiver with a good phono stage will be needed) FireWire audio 
interfaces are a step up, i use USB and am relatively happy; there are 
tools to make the whole thing easier, but you can get by with free 
software like GarageBand or Audacity


i have a big stash of vinyl, i love it and play it fairly often, usually 
on weekend mornings as the musical equivalent of slow food, but i don't 
think i can hear any difference in quality; i'll probably never get it 
all trans-coded to digital



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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Doug Franklin]

Jens wrote:


I have discovered, that if I fire the camera at 1/1000 secs a split second 
after activating the RTF, it will actually fire, as long as the  RFT is not 
fully charged yet.


I think there's a custom menu function thingy that controls whether the 
shutter will release before the flash is charged, when in a flash mode. 
 Sort of like the one that controls whether the shutter will release in 
AF modes without an AF confirmation.


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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> I expect Larry's cop was doing what cops are supposed to do, checking up on
> an apparently abandoned vehicle on the side of the road [...] 

 It's not an unreasonable question given the "time of day", location and
> apparent subject matter - after midnight [?], taking photos of the power
> grid out in the middle of nowhere.
>
> Having determined Larry wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't in trouble &
> didn't need help, he left Larry to do his thing.

I agree with everything you say.  My point was simply that when cops
or other investigators ask questions, the ~way~ those questions are
answered is often as important to the investigator as what's said.
Shifty eyes, uncomfortable looks, hesitation, stammering, profuse
sweating, turning and fleeing all raise red flags.

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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Frank's already got himself on their watch list. And not only theirs; the
> FBI & the CIA will be after him for the insult.


I'm sure I've been on some CSIS list for a while.  I used to belong to
a group...

'Nuff said.

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Re: PESO corset and lace

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Of corset i like it.

It's a cinch you would.

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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Tom C wrote:
>
> 
>
> hey Tom, buddy, I'm interested in a digital rangefinder...

Me too.

I'm pretty good at the consumption stuff (conspicuous or otherwise).
It's paying for the consumption that's been my ongoing problem...

;-)

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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[eckinator]

fin'ished even...

2009/11/12 David J Brooks :
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Bran Everseeking
>  wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:42:14 -0500
>> "Desjardins, Steve"  wrote:
>>
>>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>>
>> I as well.   It really piqued my interest.
>
> Its been scaled back
>
> Dave
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?





I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".


I as well. It really piqued my interest.


Its been scaled back


Very finny.


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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Bran Everseeking
 wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:42:14 -0500
> "Desjardins, Steve"  wrote:
>
>> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".
>
> I as well.   It really piqued my interest.

Its been scaled back

Dave
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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[David J Brooks]

This is the one to record direct to ipod. The USB to computer is
cheaper and similar

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Turntable&product=4213004

Dave

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> Don't know which USB type turntable you saw but the general consensus
> is they are basically junk. Sure they work but the cartridge/needles
> are inferior and rumble, wow and flutter specs probably aren't even
> listed... good for making an easy copy if not listening critically.
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> Best record the vinyl soon..as you know. Life is very short.
>>> Did a lark DJ stint back in the 50's and imagine I can still feel the pulse 
>>> of Ampex driven studio speakers experienced during after hours.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>
>> I never gave up on my turntable, still have one here. It should need a
>> new needle, just need to figure out the model # etc and a place to
>> buy.
>>
>> The Source sells a trun table that can DL the Vynal onto the computer
>> and or ipod. Might just get one. I'll have to see if having USB 1.1 is
>> a limiter. Lat i checked at the source is it does not work on a Mac,
>> or at least did not at the time. I have firewire and USB 2 on this.
>>
>> Dave
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tom C  wrote:
>>>
 From: Tom C 
 Subject: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
 Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:46 PM
 OMG!... sorry for, the OT...

 I know my observations, forthcoming, are not scientific and
 subjective
 to the extreme... BUT...

 Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and never
 looked back.
 The apparent 0 background noise, no clicking, pops, dust,
 made me love
 CD's.

 My son told me two months ago that he was interested in
 vinyl records.
  That's all it took to make me start looking around at
 vintage gear.
 I've kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics all-purpose
 AV receiver,
 quite well spec'd and all, with either Bose Acoustimass
 speakers
 and/or whatever is installed in the ceiling of our home.

 I started out planning on giving him my early '80's
 Kenwood
 30W/channel system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a mint
 Technics TT and
 a better than average cartridge.  He would choose the
 loudspeakers.

 Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was interested
 in
 reel-to-reel, something I always wanted, but I opted for
 cassette back
 in earlier years for $ reason and because I could make a
 tape and play
 it in the car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S
 4-track.  My Kenwood
 system, quite nice, but all I could afford at 21 yrs. old,
 does not
 accomodate the necessary tape inputs/outputs, dubbing,
 etc., and has
 no speaker A/B for a possible sub-woofer.  So onto
 look at more amps.

 I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel receiver &
 perfect Pioneer
 CD changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood KA-3500
 40W/channel
 integrated amp and got it for $31.  I subsequently saw
 a 65W/channel
 late '70's Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in mint
 condition with the
 silver fronts, wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and analog
 tuning for
 $260 + shipping. He liked it the best out of the bunch, and
 we got it.

 He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made) speakers which
 are quite
 good (also my pick of the affordable ones we demo'd) and
 which are due
 to arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid '80's
 B&W English-made
 speakers for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a whim.

 I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage
 LP'S (OK, 99%
 Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca,
 and
 classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a
 vintage turntable and
 a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of
 speakers.

 I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of
 musical detail I can
 hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any
 better) are
 just superb.  It sounds like real music and real
 voices.

 Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL tower
 speakers I could
 afford when I was much younger were not as good as what I'm
 listening
 to at the moment.  Just the musicality of what I'm
 hearing on 20-30
 year old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is astounding
 (I purchased
 214, played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics receiver,
 cassette
 deck, a 2nd pretty good TT, and speakers (worthless), for
 $250). It
 was worth 2x-3x more than that for the LP's alone.
 What I'm hearing
 is really better than what I hear on CD or iPod.

 Simply amazed... not over-imbibed

Re: Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Jens]

Thanks Mark
This makes me feel a little better :-)
Regards
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On Nov 12, 2009 22:01 "Mark Roberts"  wrote:
> Jens wrote:
> >I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give
> >
> >up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. 
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> Facebook gets the right to use the image for promoting Facebook. And
> only as long as you have the image *on* Facebook. As soon as you
> remove it, they lose these rights. Pretty reasonable for a free
> service.
> 
> A few months ago they tried to change their TOS to allow them to use
> your image (including for purposes beyond promotion and advertising)
> even after you took it down, but there was such an outcry that they
> backed down very quickly. This incident is probably at the root of
> the
> "you give up all rights" urban legend. Even that overzealous TOS
> didn't make the photographer give up all rights (the photographer
> could still copy, sell, modify, license the image).
> 
> Also, if your photos on Facebook have recognizable people in them,
> Facebook would still have to get a model release. See the
> Flickr/Virgin Mobile fiasco already mentioned in this thread :)
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Re: How can I fire a flash at 1/1000 secs?

[Jens]

I have now asked both JOBO AG and Pentax USA if there is a way around this, so 
I can use the JOBO Photo GPS at faster speeds, than 1/180 secs.

I will let you guys know when and if I get answers.

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On Nov 12, 2009 21:37 "Jens"  wrote:
> In order to solve the problem described below, I wonder if it is at
> all possible to fire a flash at 1/1000 secs?
> I have discovered, that if I fire the camera at 1/1000 secs a split
> second after activating the RTF, it will actually fire, as long as the
> RFT is not fully charged yet.
> 
> Is there a way to engage such a function - for instance in a mode
> designed for strobo flash functions?
> 
> Regards
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> On Nov 12, 2009 20:52 "Jens"  wrote:
> > Actually, Peter.
> > This is a brilliant question. Now why didn't I think of that?
> > I made a small in-door test. It seems that it does not work below
> > 1/160 sec. But the software will tag the images same as previous
> > ones,
> > shot at above 1/160 sec.
> > So in practice this is not too much of a problem, if you know this
> > in
> > advance - and if you remember to take a few shots above 1/160 every
> > time you chang location.
> >  
> > But afterall, this really is a draw back, I believe. And the Danish
> > Pentax importer recommended this for Pentax. I guess he had no idea
> > :-( 
> > I will have to tell him asap.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Jens
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'll make a test in daylight tomorrow using 
> > 
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> > On Nov 12, 2009 14:27 "Peter Loveday"  wrote:
> > > > It wont work out of the hot-shoe/flash connection.
> > > > It only records data whenever the shutter is fired.
> > > > That's actuelly the beauty of the whole koncept :-)
> > > 
> > > Given that, as far as I can tell, Pentax cameras annoyingly
> > > refuse
> > > to
> > > fire 
> > > the flash if you're above sync speed, does this work at higher
> > > shutter
> > > speeds?
> > > 
> > > - Peter
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Re: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Bran Everseeking]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:42:14 -0500
"Desjardins, Steve"  wrote:

> I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".

I as well.   It really piqued my interest.

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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Bran Everseeking]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:40:06 +0100
Jens  wrote:

> I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give
> up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I
> don't submit phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless.

Their IP statement gives them specific rights to use your image in the
way that facebook works.  the language from the "all your bases r
belong to us" ToS was scrapped but they still have default permissions
that allow things that most reasonable folks would not.  thus the point
Ann (I have trouble not putting an e there) made about un-checking
everything.

what I do put up there is mostly useless by definition anyway.

always important to know what folks are doing though.

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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Mark Roberts]

Jens wrote:

>I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give 
>up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. 

Wrong.

Facebook gets the right to use the image for promoting Facebook. And
only as long as you have the image *on* Facebook. As soon as you
remove it, they lose these rights. Pretty reasonable for a free
service.

A few months ago they tried to change their TOS to allow them to use
your image (including for purposes beyond promotion and advertising)
even after you took it down, but there was such an outcry that they
backed down very quickly. This incident is probably at the root of the
"you give up all rights" urban legend. Even that overzealous TOS
didn't make the photographer give up all rights (the photographer
could still copy, sell, modify, license the image).

Also, if your photos on Facebook have recognizable people in them,
Facebook would still have to get a model release. See the
Flickr/Virgin Mobile fiasco already mentioned in this thread :)


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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Mark Roberts]

Adam Maas wrote:

>On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>>>From: Bran Everseeking
 A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at
 least.

 http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html
>>>
>>>Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that "Orphaned Works" copyright
>>>legislation.
>>>
>>>Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission,
>>>someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take &
>>>use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you.
>>>
>>>It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being
>>>used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign.
>>
>> That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on
>> Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without
>> understanding what this meant).
>
>And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between clearing
>copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on
>copyright.
>
>The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just
>frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC
>images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a
>identifiable individual.

Indeed. I'd hope someone at the ad agency lost their job over that.

Just to complete the train wreck: The ad appeared only in Australia,
but the girl in the photo sued the *American* division of Virgin
Mobile, rather than the Australian corporation (which ran the ad) or
the parent corporation in Britain. AND they sued Creative Commons! The
U.S. branch of Virgin Mobile asked for dismissal for obvious reasons
and I think they got it. I know the suit against Creative Commons was
dropped when the plaintiff's attorney realized it was mind-bogglingly
stupid.

BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business
I highly recommend a book I just picked up, "Getting Permission" by
Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an
IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers
licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more.


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RE: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Desjardins, Steve]

I swore I thought this was titled "fire a fish at 1/1000 sec".

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jens
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:38 PM
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Subject: How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?


In order to solve the problem described below, I wonder if it is at all 
possible to fire a flash at 1/1000 secs?

I have discovered, that if I fire the camera at 1/1000 secs a split second 
after activating the RTF, it will actually fire, as long as the  RFT is not 
fully charged yet.

Is there a way to engage such a function - for instance in a mode designed for 
strobo flash functions?

Regards
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On Nov 12, 2009 20:52 "Jens"  wrote:
> Actually, Peter.
> This is a brilliant question. Now why didn't I think of that?
> I made a small in-door test. It seems that it does not work below
> 1/160 sec. But the software will tag the images same as previous ones,
> shot at above 1/160 sec.
> So in practice this is not too much of a problem, if you know this in
> advance - and if you remember to take a few shots above 1/160 every
> time you chang location.
>  
> But afterall, this really is a draw back, I believe. And the Danish
> Pentax importer recommended this for Pentax. I guess he had no idea
> :-( 
> I will have to tell him asap.
> 
> Regards
> Jens
> 
> 
> 
> I'll make a test in daylight tomorrow using 
> 
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> 
> On Nov 12, 2009 14:27 "Peter Loveday"  wrote:
> > > It wont work out of the hot-shoe/flash connection.
> > > It only records data whenever the shutter is fired.
> > > That's actuelly the beauty of the whole koncept :-)
> > 
> > Given that, as far as I can tell, Pentax cameras annoyingly refuse
> > to
> > fire 
> > the flash if you're above sync speed, does this work at higher
> > shutter
> > speeds?
> > 
> > - Peter
> > 
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Re: Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Jens]

I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all 
rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I don't submit 
phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless.

Regards
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On Nov 12, 2009 20:41 "Adam Maas"  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts 
> wrote:
> > John Sessoms wrote:
> >
> >>From: Bran Everseeking
> >>> A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true
> >>> at
> >>> least.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip
> >>> -photo-copyright-data.html
> >>
> >>Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that "Orphaned Works"
> >>copyright
> >>legislation.
> >>
> >>Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your
> >>permission,
> >>someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take
> >>&
> >>use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you.
> >>
> >>It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up
> >>being
> >>used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign.
> >
> > That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo
> > on
> > Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without
> > understanding what this meant).
> >
> 
> And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between
> clearing
> copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on
> copyright.
> 
> The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just
> frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC
> images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a
> identifiable individual.
> 
> 
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How can I fire a flsh at 1/1000 secs?

[Jens]

In order to solve the problem described below, I wonder if it is at all 
possible to fire a flash at 1/1000 secs?

I have discovered, that if I fire the camera at 1/1000 secs a split second 
after activating the RTF, it will actually fire, as long as the  RFT is not 
fully charged yet.

Is there a way to engage such a function - for instance in a mode designed for 
strobo flash functions?

Regards
Jens 

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On Nov 12, 2009 20:52 "Jens"  wrote:
> Actually, Peter.
> This is a brilliant question. Now why didn't I think of that?
> I made a small in-door test. It seems that it does not work below
> 1/160 sec. But the software will tag the images same as previous ones,
> shot at above 1/160 sec.
> So in practice this is not too much of a problem, if you know this in
> advance - and if you remember to take a few shots above 1/160 every
> time you chang location.
>  
> But afterall, this really is a draw back, I believe. And the Danish
> Pentax importer recommended this for Pentax. I guess he had no idea
> :-( 
> I will have to tell him asap.
> 
> Regards
> Jens
> 
> 
> 
> I'll make a test in daylight tomorrow using 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> On Nov 12, 2009 14:27 "Peter Loveday"  wrote:
> > > It wont work out of the hot-shoe/flash connection.
> > > It only records data whenever the shutter is fired.
> > > That's actuelly the beauty of the whole koncept :-)
> > 
> > Given that, as far as I can tell, Pentax cameras annoyingly refuse
> > to
> > fire 
> > the flash if you're above sync speed, does this work at higher
> > shutter
> > speeds?
> > 
> > - Peter
> > 
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RE: PESO - Subversive Activities

[Bob W]

> >> > 
> >> > 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/subversive-activities.ht
> >> > ml
> >> > 
> >> > I know it's not a "knockout" or "home run" photo, but there's 
> >> > something about this one that (I must confess) I really like.
> >> >  I hope you like it, too.
> >> > 
> > 
> > I do
> > 
> >> > Or maybe I'm just a sucker for a crooked smile...
> >> > 
> >> >  ;-)
> >> > 
> >> > cheers,
> >> > frank
> >> > 
> >> > * CSIS is Canada's "Intelligence" agency (I think that's 
> what the "I"
> >> > stands for).  These guys actually manage to make the CIA and FBI 
> >> > look capable and effective.
> >> > 
> > 
> > That's what they want you to think, but they are a very 
> subtle nest of 
> > spies. For comparison, here is a British airborne drone:
> > 
> > 
> > Here's an American one:
> > 
>  > jpg>
> > 
> > Both very obvious and unmistakeable. Now here's some footage of 
> > Canada's old enemy defending themselves against Canuck 
> airborne drones:
> > 
> 
> Frank's already got himself on their watch list. And not only 
> theirs; the FBI & the CIA will be after him for the insult.
> 
> Be afraid, be very afraid.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YkQ9w3PJ4&feature=fvw
> 

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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 11, 2009, at 20:50, frank theriault wrote:


Leftist political tracts and vegan cookies  - all at the same table!
I'm sure CSIS* has a file on her:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/subversive-activities.html

I know it's not a "knockout" or "home run" photo, but there's
something about this one that (I must confess) I really like.  I hope
you like it, too.

Or maybe I'm just a sucker for a crooked smile...



I like the squinty/crooked smile too.

 -Charles

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Re: Re: Re: OT: Geotagging again, agian... JOBO Photo GPS

[Jens]

Actually, Peter.
This is a brilliant question. Now why didn't I think of that?
I made a small in-door test. It seems that it does not work below 1/160 sec. 
But the software will tag the images same as previous ones, shot at above 1/160 
sec.
So in practice this is not too much of a problem, if you know this in advance - 
and if you remember to take a few shots above 1/160 every time you chang 
location.
 
But afterall, this really is a draw back, I believe. And the Danish Pentax 
importer recommended this for Pentax. I guess he had no idea :-( 
I will have to tell him asap.

Regards
Jens



I'll make a test in daylight tomorrow using 

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On Nov 12, 2009 14:27 "Peter Loveday"  wrote:
> > It wont work out of the hot-shoe/flash connection.
> > It only records data whenever the shutter is fired.
> > That's actuelly the beauty of the whole koncept :-)
> 
> Given that, as far as I can tell, Pentax cameras annoyingly refuse to
> fire 
> the flash if you're above sync speed, does this work at higher shutter
> speeds?
> 
> - Peter
> 
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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> John Sessoms wrote:
>
>>From: Bran Everseeking
>>> A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at
>>> least.
>>>
>>> http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html
>>
>>Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that "Orphaned Works" copyright
>>legislation.
>>
>>Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission,
>>someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take &
>>use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you.
>>
>>It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being
>>used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign.
>
> That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on
> Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without
> understanding what this meant).
>

And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between clearing
copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on
copyright.

The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just
frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC
images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a
identifiable individual.


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Re: OT: Tree down

[John Sessoms]

From: John Sessoms
The storm is apparently the remnant of Hurricane Ida. It seems kind of 
late in the season for hurricanes. It hit here on Veteran's day when 
most of the government - such as crews that clean up fallen trees out of 
the street.


Last line should end with "have the day off."

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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/10/2009 4:35:43 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
supera1...@fastmail.fm writes:
G'day all

I'm in  two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is divided
diagonally  and the looped chain.  But I'm just not sure  overall

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html


Comments  appreciated.

Cheers

Brian

===
I think it work  better B&W.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: GESO SoCal trip

[Larry Colen]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:44:46PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
> It does seem like 20091107-imgp0140 is upside down. It also looks like 
> there's some kind of crud on either the sensor or on the lens that's 
> somehow reflected in the water.

I kept thinking that it was crud on the lens, but I'm pretty certain
it's just a bird flying in the background.

> 
> From: Richard D Bush
> >I might be wrong, but it looks like your first shot is upside down. It  
> >that possible, or is upside down how you want to show it?
> >
> >RB
> >
> >On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:02 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >In a message dated 11/11/2009 12:20:36 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> >l...@red4est.com writes:
> >I trimmed things down to 41  shots. I had taken a few more out, but
> >when I asked my girlfriend to help  weed out a few of them, she
> >upgraded a few that hadn't made the first  cut.
> >
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622656115833/
> >
> >or  in  flickriver:
> >
> >http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622656115833/
> >
> >Several  of them were actually taken during the day.
> >=
> >I really like the  Salton Sea shots, Larry. Lovely. Never heard of it
> >before, and now I am tempted  to go there.
> >
> >Good bird shot too (on top of piling).
> >
> >Very nice  gallery (better trimmed down than lots of your past ones too
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Two More from Miami

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Frank!  There was a very strong, very gusty wind blowing, and most of 
my shots from that session had motion blur.  I this one, only the trees are 
blurred.

Rick

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--- On Wed, 11/11/09, frank theriault  wrote:
> > Dusk at Miami Beach:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10169976&size=lg
> >
> > Boat Rental:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10169978&size=lg
> 
> I ~really~ like Dusk at Miami Beach!  Beautifully
> composed, lovely
> light, very moody.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Desjardins, Steve]

I remember the time we borrowed a turntable to play some LPs for a music course 
my wife was taking.  My daughter was fascinated and thought we should get one.  
This was also shortly after she had tried to shove an old 45 she found in a 
kid's book into our CD player.


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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM, mike wilson  wrote:


> Not fair. ?The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the
> decision that no further action was required upon investigation. ?His
> personal interests are largely irrelevant. ?I am not sure I would have
> stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at
> night _must_ be up to no good.


Well, this kind of reminds me of when I flew down to New York City for
the Cycle Messenger World Championships back in 2005.  I didn't have a
passport, so crossed the border with my birth certificate and an
expired driver's license (as it had a photo and my birthdate on it).
With the "sketchy" ID I had, he asked the "usual questions".  My only
checked luggage (which was next to me) was my bike in a proper
hardshell traveling case.  He asked what was in the box.

He asked what type of bike I had.  "Rossin trackbike," I replied.

He asked, "Is that titanium?"

"Nope, aluminium," was my prompt reply.

I later related that story to a friend, and he said, "Wow, the guy
knew that Rossin doesn't make a titanium frame?  He must have been
trying to trip you up."

I explained to him that in fact he wasn't interested in my answer and
likely didn't know that Rossin only (at that time) only made steel and
aluminium frames.  He was looking for my reaction, any hesitation on
my part, ~how~ I answered, not ~what~ I answered.

I'm guessing that Larry's cop was in the same situation.


I expect Larry's cop was doing what cops are supposed to do, checking up 
on an apparently abandoned vehicle on the side of the road to:


a. see if someone was drunk and passed out
b. see if someone was broke down and needed help
c. see if someone abandoned a stolen car there
d. log it and put a sticker on it, so the next cop who came by would 
know it had already been checked, and it could be towed if it sat there 
long enough.


From Larry's story, the cop didn't see him taking pictures, Larry saw 
the police car next to his car and walked down to talk to the cop. The 
cop asked Larry what he was doing and Larry told him.


That's when the cop asked "But what are you taking pictures for?"

It's not an unreasonable question given the "time of day", location and 
apparent subject matter - after midnight [?], taking photos of the power 
grid out in the middle of nowhere.


Having determined Larry wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't in trouble & 
didn't need help, he left Larry to do his thing.


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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>From: Bran Everseeking
>> A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at
>> least.
>> 
>> http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html
>
>Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that "Orphaned Works" copyright 
>legislation.
>
>Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, 
>someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take & 
>use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you.
>
>It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being 
>used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign.

That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on
Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without
understanding what this meant).


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Jack Davis]

Best with your component search and matching, David.

Jack

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, David J Brooks  wrote:

> From: David J Brooks 
> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 9:44 AM
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Jack
> Davis 
> wrote:
> > Best record the vinyl soon..as you know. Life is very
> short.
> > Did a lark DJ stint back in the 50's and imagine I can
> still feel the pulse of Ampex driven studio speakers
> experienced during after hours.
> >
> > Jack
> 
> I never gave up on my turntable, still have one here. It
> should need a
> new needle, just need to figure out the model # etc and a
> place to
> buy.
> 
> The Source sells a trun table that can DL the Vynal onto
> the computer
> and or ipod. Might just get one. I'll have to see if having
> USB 1.1 is
> a limiter. Lat i checked at the source is it does not work
> on a Mac,
> or at least did not at the time. I have firewire and USB 2
> on this.
> 
> Dave
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tom C 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tom C 
> >> Subject: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:46 PM
> >> OMG!... sorry for, the OT...
> >>
> >> I know my observations, forthcoming, are not
> scientific and
> >> subjective
> >> to the extreme... BUT...
> >>
> >> Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and
> never
> >> looked back.
> >> The apparent 0 background noise, no clicking,
> pops, dust,
> >> made me love
> >> CD's.
> >>
> >> My son told me two months ago that he was
> interested in
> >> vinyl records.
> >>  That's all it took to make me start looking
> around at
> >> vintage gear.
> >> I've kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics
> all-purpose
> >> AV receiver,
> >> quite well spec'd and all, with either Bose
> Acoustimass
> >> speakers
> >> and/or whatever is installed in the ceiling of our
> home.
> >>
> >> I started out planning on giving him my early
> '80's
> >> Kenwood
> >> 30W/channel system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a
> mint
> >> Technics TT and
> >> a better than average cartridge.  He would choose
> the
> >> loudspeakers.
> >>
> >> Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was
> interested
> >> in
> >> reel-to-reel, something I always wanted, but I
> opted for
> >> cassette back
> >> in earlier years for $ reason and because I could
> make a
> >> tape and play
> >> it in the car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S
> >> 4-track.  My Kenwood
> >> system, quite nice, but all I could afford at 21
> yrs. old,
> >> does not
> >> accomodate the necessary tape inputs/outputs,
> dubbing,
> >> etc., and has
> >> no speaker A/B for a possible sub-woofer.  So
> onto
> >> look at more amps.
> >>
> >> I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel
> receiver &
> >> perfect Pioneer
> >> CD changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood
> KA-3500
> >> 40W/channel
> >> integrated amp and got it for $31.  I
> subsequently saw
> >> a 65W/channel
> >> late '70's Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in
> mint
> >> condition with the
> >> silver fronts, wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and
> analog
> >> tuning for
> >> $260 + shipping. He liked it the best out of the
> bunch, and
> >> we got it.
> >>
> >> He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made)
> speakers which
> >> are quite
> >> good (also my pick of the affordable ones we
> demo'd) and
> >> which are due
> >> to arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid
> '80's
> >> B&W English-made
> >> speakers for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a
> whim.
> >>
> >> I've sat here most of the day listening to some
> vintage
> >> LP'S (OK, 99%
> >> Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago,
> Heart, Macca,
> >> and
> >> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a
> >> vintage turntable and
> >> a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year
> old pair of
> >> speakers.
> >>
> >> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of
> >> musical detail I can
> >> hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe
> it any
> >> better) are
> >> just superb.  It sounds like real music and real
> >> voices.
> >>
> >> Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL
> tower
> >> speakers I could
> >> afford when I was much younger were not as good as
> what I'm
> >> listening
> >> to at the moment.  Just the musicality of what
> I'm
> >> hearing on 20-30
> >> year old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is
> astounding
> >> (I purchased
> >> 214, played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics
> receiver,
> >> cassette
> >> deck, a 2nd pretty good TT, and speakers
> (worthless), for
> >> $250). It
> >> was worth 2x-3x more than that for the LP's
> alone.
> >> What I'm hearing
> >> is really better than what I hear on CD or iPod.
> >>
> >> Simply amazed... not over-imbibed, just
> astounded.  I
> >> got my hearing back.
> >>
> >> In between all that I found a '80's Pioneer
> 100W/channel
> >> amp, tuner,
> >> EQ, and timer for $95 in like new condition, which
> I got
> >> solely for
> >> the EQ & timer.
> >>
> >> (I'm not going 

Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Tom C]

Don't know which USB type turntable you saw but the general consensus
is they are basically junk. Sure they work but the cartridge/needles
are inferior and rumble, wow and flutter specs probably aren't even
listed... good for making an easy copy if not listening critically.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Best record the vinyl soon..as you know. Life is very short.
>> Did a lark DJ stint back in the 50's and imagine I can still feel the pulse 
>> of Ampex driven studio speakers experienced during after hours.
>>
>> Jack
>
> I never gave up on my turntable, still have one here. It should need a
> new needle, just need to figure out the model # etc and a place to
> buy.
>
> The Source sells a trun table that can DL the Vynal onto the computer
> and or ipod. Might just get one. I'll have to see if having USB 1.1 is
> a limiter. Lat i checked at the source is it does not work on a Mac,
> or at least did not at the time. I have firewire and USB 2 on this.
>
> Dave
>>
>> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tom C  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Tom C 
>>> Subject: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:46 PM
>>> OMG!... sorry for, the OT...
>>>
>>> I know my observations, forthcoming, are not scientific and
>>> subjective
>>> to the extreme... BUT...
>>>
>>> Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and never
>>> looked back.
>>> The apparent 0 background noise, no clicking, pops, dust,
>>> made me love
>>> CD's.
>>>
>>> My son told me two months ago that he was interested in
>>> vinyl records.
>>>  That's all it took to make me start looking around at
>>> vintage gear.
>>> I've kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics all-purpose
>>> AV receiver,
>>> quite well spec'd and all, with either Bose Acoustimass
>>> speakers
>>> and/or whatever is installed in the ceiling of our home.
>>>
>>> I started out planning on giving him my early '80's
>>> Kenwood
>>> 30W/channel system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a mint
>>> Technics TT and
>>> a better than average cartridge.  He would choose the
>>> loudspeakers.
>>>
>>> Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was interested
>>> in
>>> reel-to-reel, something I always wanted, but I opted for
>>> cassette back
>>> in earlier years for $ reason and because I could make a
>>> tape and play
>>> it in the car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S
>>> 4-track.  My Kenwood
>>> system, quite nice, but all I could afford at 21 yrs. old,
>>> does not
>>> accomodate the necessary tape inputs/outputs, dubbing,
>>> etc., and has
>>> no speaker A/B for a possible sub-woofer.  So onto
>>> look at more amps.
>>>
>>> I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel receiver &
>>> perfect Pioneer
>>> CD changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood KA-3500
>>> 40W/channel
>>> integrated amp and got it for $31.  I subsequently saw
>>> a 65W/channel
>>> late '70's Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in mint
>>> condition with the
>>> silver fronts, wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and analog
>>> tuning for
>>> $260 + shipping. He liked it the best out of the bunch, and
>>> we got it.
>>>
>>> He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made) speakers which
>>> are quite
>>> good (also my pick of the affordable ones we demo'd) and
>>> which are due
>>> to arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid '80's
>>> B&W English-made
>>> speakers for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a whim.
>>>
>>> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage
>>> LP'S (OK, 99%
>>> Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca,
>>> and
>>> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a
>>> vintage turntable and
>>> a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of
>>> speakers.
>>>
>>> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of
>>> musical detail I can
>>> hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any
>>> better) are
>>> just superb.  It sounds like real music and real
>>> voices.
>>>
>>> Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL tower
>>> speakers I could
>>> afford when I was much younger were not as good as what I'm
>>> listening
>>> to at the moment.  Just the musicality of what I'm
>>> hearing on 20-30
>>> year old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is astounding
>>> (I purchased
>>> 214, played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics receiver,
>>> cassette
>>> deck, a 2nd pretty good TT, and speakers (worthless), for
>>> $250). It
>>> was worth 2x-3x more than that for the LP's alone.
>>> What I'm hearing
>>> is really better than what I hear on CD or iPod.
>>>
>>> Simply amazed... not over-imbibed, just astounded.  I
>>> got my hearing back.
>>>
>>> In between all that I found a '80's Pioneer 100W/channel
>>> amp, tuner,
>>> EQ, and timer for $95 in like new condition, which I got
>>> solely for
>>> the EQ & timer.
>>>
>>> (I'm not going to tell you this led to me getting a mint
>>> Denon amp &
>>> mint B&W speakers for myself... now looking for the
>>> right TT & tuner).

Re: RE: RE: RE: "The Tool" versus "The Toy" (K-x vs. K20)

[Dragan Grašič]

Jaume,
yes, the K-x AF-performance is a veritable step forward, now it works 
flawless also in low light.
You should check if this AF-tweak is good enough to suit your particular 
style of photography.


Concerning Hyperprogram, you can activate it in the Rec Menu 4/Green 
Button then set up E-dial in P-mode either to Program shift (default) or 
Av/Tv and off. You have to pick either one or the other because K-x has 
just one E-dial.


Yes, status screen can be turned off by pressing Info button twice 
(first klick: control panel, second klick: off), yet if doing so it 
won't show you the review after shot. But if you want to change ISO and 
press the dedicated button the status screen will go on again even if it 
was turned off before. There is a way to work around this though, the 
Sv-mode.


A word about shutter sound: this is unique by each Pentax camera I have 
heard so far. K-x sounds less "motorized" and less damped as the K20 
sound, somehow the subjective feeling upon the sound is as the exposure 
time is being longer as it actually is. The camera is a bit louder than 
K20, which makes it harder to use unnoticed in silent situations. But 
outside in the crowd with a pancake lens, you will have no problems... :))



cheers,
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RE: PESO - Subversive Activities

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"

> Leftist political tracts and vegan cookies  - all at the same table!
> I'm sure CSIS* has a file on her:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/subversive-activities.html
> 
> I know it's not a "knockout" or "home run" photo, but there's 
> something about this one that (I must confess) I really like. 
>  I hope you like it, too.
> 


I do


> Or maybe I'm just a sucker for a crooked smile...
> 
>  ;-) 
> 
> cheers,

> frank
> 
> * CSIS is Canada's "Intelligence" agency (I think that's what the "I"
> stands for).  These guys actually manage to make the CIA and 
> FBI look capable and effective.
> 


That's what they want you to think, but they are a very subtle nest of
spies. For comparison, here is a British airborne drone:


Here's an American one:


Both very obvious and unmistakeable. Now here's some footage of Canada's old
enemy defending themselves against Canuck airborne drones:



Frank's already got himself on their watch list. And not only theirs; 
the FBI & the CIA will be after him for the insult.


Be afraid, be very afraid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YkQ9w3PJ4&feature=fvw

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Re: PESO corset and lace

[David J Brooks]

Of corset i like it.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I had a fun photo shoot tonight. It started out with some portraits
> for her to send to her family, then she wanted some of her in her
> corset. I quite like this one of her in a corset and frilly panties:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4097466395/sizes/m/in/set-72157622663678463/
> aka
> http://tinyurl.com/ydwb5j3
>
> I'm linking to it in this format because most of the rest of the shots
> in the set are NSFW, so be careful of who might watch of you click
> through to the rest of the set.
>
> --
> The first step is learning to take great photos,
> the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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>
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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

[David J Brooks]

Another great slice of Toronto life shot.

And i agree with your geese comments.:-)


Dave

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:50 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Leftist political tracts and vegan cookies  - all at the same table!
> I'm sure CSIS* has a file on her:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/subversive-activities.html
>
> I know it's not a "knockout" or "home run" photo, but there's
> something about this one that (I must confess) I really like.  I hope
> you like it, too.
>
> Or maybe I'm just a sucker for a crooked smile...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> * CSIS is Canada's "Intelligence" agency (I think that's what the "I"
> stands for).  These guys actually manage to make the CIA and FBI look
> capable and effective.
>
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Re: Geso: Sammie

[David J Brooks]

Nice set, of pictures.

Dave

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM, William Robb  wrote:
> Please allow me to introduce Sammie.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/studio/sammi1/index.html
>
> I think she is very pretty.
> Anyway, tech stuff:
> K-7/ iso 100.
> 70mm LTD, around f/8.
> Images are resized and processed only.
>
> All shots done with a 22" Beauty Dish, some had either a white or gold
> reflector.
> The shots with the bright background, that background is the Beauty Dish
> firing at 800 WS. The main light is actually a reflector.
> Sometimes I'm just friggin amazed at what SMC lets me do.
>
> William Robb
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Re: GESO SoCal trip

[John Sessoms]

It does seem like 20091107-imgp0140 is upside down. It also looks like 
there's some kind of crud on either the sensor or on the lens that's 
somehow reflected in the water.


From: Richard D Bush
I might be wrong, but it looks like your first shot is upside down. It  
that possible, or is upside down how you want to show it?


RB

On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:02 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 11/11/2009 12:20:36 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
l...@red4est.com writes:
I trimmed things down to 41  shots. I had taken a few more out, but
when I asked my girlfriend to help  weed out a few of them, she
upgraded a few that hadn't made the first  cut.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622656115833/

or  in  flickriver:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622656115833/

Several  of them were actually taken during the day.
=
I really like the  Salton Sea shots, Larry. Lovely. Never heard of it
before, and now I am tempted  to go there.

Good bird shot too (on top of piling).

Very nice  gallery (better trimmed down than lots of your past ones too






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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Best record the vinyl soon..as you know. Life is very short.
> Did a lark DJ stint back in the 50's and imagine I can still feel the pulse 
> of Ampex driven studio speakers experienced during after hours.
>
> Jack

I never gave up on my turntable, still have one here. It should need a
new needle, just need to figure out the model # etc and a place to
buy.

The Source sells a trun table that can DL the Vynal onto the computer
and or ipod. Might just get one. I'll have to see if having USB 1.1 is
a limiter. Lat i checked at the source is it does not work on a Mac,
or at least did not at the time. I have firewire and USB 2 on this.

Dave
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tom C  wrote:
>
>> From: Tom C 
>> Subject: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:46 PM
>> OMG!... sorry for, the OT...
>>
>> I know my observations, forthcoming, are not scientific and
>> subjective
>> to the extreme... BUT...
>>
>> Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and never
>> looked back.
>> The apparent 0 background noise, no clicking, pops, dust,
>> made me love
>> CD's.
>>
>> My son told me two months ago that he was interested in
>> vinyl records.
>>  That's all it took to make me start looking around at
>> vintage gear.
>> I've kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics all-purpose
>> AV receiver,
>> quite well spec'd and all, with either Bose Acoustimass
>> speakers
>> and/or whatever is installed in the ceiling of our home.
>>
>> I started out planning on giving him my early '80's
>> Kenwood
>> 30W/channel system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a mint
>> Technics TT and
>> a better than average cartridge.  He would choose the
>> loudspeakers.
>>
>> Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was interested
>> in
>> reel-to-reel, something I always wanted, but I opted for
>> cassette back
>> in earlier years for $ reason and because I could make a
>> tape and play
>> it in the car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S
>> 4-track.  My Kenwood
>> system, quite nice, but all I could afford at 21 yrs. old,
>> does not
>> accomodate the necessary tape inputs/outputs, dubbing,
>> etc., and has
>> no speaker A/B for a possible sub-woofer.  So onto
>> look at more amps.
>>
>> I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel receiver &
>> perfect Pioneer
>> CD changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood KA-3500
>> 40W/channel
>> integrated amp and got it for $31.  I subsequently saw
>> a 65W/channel
>> late '70's Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in mint
>> condition with the
>> silver fronts, wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and analog
>> tuning for
>> $260 + shipping. He liked it the best out of the bunch, and
>> we got it.
>>
>> He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made) speakers which
>> are quite
>> good (also my pick of the affordable ones we demo'd) and
>> which are due
>> to arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid '80's
>> B&W English-made
>> speakers for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a whim.
>>
>> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage
>> LP'S (OK, 99%
>> Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca,
>> and
>> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a
>> vintage turntable and
>> a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of
>> speakers.
>>
>> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of
>> musical detail I can
>> hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any
>> better) are
>> just superb.  It sounds like real music and real
>> voices.
>>
>> Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL tower
>> speakers I could
>> afford when I was much younger were not as good as what I'm
>> listening
>> to at the moment.  Just the musicality of what I'm
>> hearing on 20-30
>> year old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is astounding
>> (I purchased
>> 214, played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics receiver,
>> cassette
>> deck, a 2nd pretty good TT, and speakers (worthless), for
>> $250). It
>> was worth 2x-3x more than that for the LP's alone.
>> What I'm hearing
>> is really better than what I hear on CD or iPod.
>>
>> Simply amazed... not over-imbibed, just astounded.  I
>> got my hearing back.
>>
>> In between all that I found a '80's Pioneer 100W/channel
>> amp, tuner,
>> EQ, and timer for $95 in like new condition, which I got
>> solely for
>> the EQ & timer.
>>
>> (I'm not going to tell you this led to me getting a mint
>> Denon amp &
>> mint B&W speakers for myself... now looking for the
>> right TT & tuner).
>>
>> It's not bad, living vicariously through your children.
>>
>> Tom
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RE: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[John Sessoms]

From: Bran Everseeking

A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at
least.


http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html


Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that "Orphaned Works" copyright 
legislation.


Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, 
someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take & 
use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you.


It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being 
used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign.


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PESO: Downed Tree

[John Sessoms]

... or Hurricane Ida visits Raleigh, NC ... Tropical Storm Ida by the 
time it got here I guess.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4098519926/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4098521224/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4098699894/in/photostream/

I was sitting at my desk reading PDML digests when I heard the tree 
fall. I made sure it hadn't fallen on my house, and then went down the 
street looking for it.


In the photo with the police car, you can see the driveway on the right. 
That's the neighbor whose back yard is behind my backyard. The house 
where the tree is located is in the next block down the street from my 
house.


In the "Big Tree Stump" photo, you can see where the tree hit the roof 
of the house when it broke off. The house has been empty for almost a 
year now, the owner lives out of town and has been coming around on 
weekends working on the house.


I had one window pane blown out by the storm, and I'll have to fix it 
once the weather clears. Window's about 15' off the ground, so I'll have 
to get a ladder out to remove the sash.


Sooner or later I've got to replace or rebuild all the window sashes in 
this house, and I guess now is as good a time as any to get started on 
that job. Rebuilding them costs less, and it's a job I know how to do 
and have the tools for.


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Tom C]

LOL.  I saw an old  Konica rangefinder in my perusings, and hesitated briefly.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Tom C wrote:
>
> 
>
> hey Tom, buddy, I'm interested in a digital rangefinder...
>
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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"

Subject: Re: But what are you taking pictures for?





I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty?
Nope.
Do you paint?
Nope.
Make music?
Nope.



Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the 
gene pool.


Not fair.  The guy was doing (to a large extent) his job and made the 
decision that no further action was required upon investigation.  His 
personal interests are largely irrelevant.  I am not sure I would have 
stopped so quickly - let's face it, someone photographing power lines at 
night _must_ be up to no good.




I was commenting on the cop's apparent lack of any creative efforts This is 
a completely seperate issue from questioning people who are not engaged in 
criminal activity.


William Robb


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Bob Sullivan]

No more enablement please...   Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Tom C  wrote:
> OMG!... sorry for, the OT...
>
> I know my observations, forthcoming, are not scientific and subjective
> to the extreme... BUT...
>
> Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and never looked back.
> The apparent 0 background noise, no clicking, pops, dust, made me love
> CD's.
>
> My son told me two months ago that he was interested in vinyl records.
>  That's all it took to make me start looking around at vintage gear.
> I've kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics all-purpose AV receiver,
> quite well spec'd and all, with either Bose Acoustimass speakers
> and/or whatever is installed in the ceiling of our home.
>
> I started out planning on giving him my early '80's Kenwood
> 30W/channel system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a mint Technics TT and
> a better than average cartridge.  He would choose the loudspeakers.
>
> Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was interested in
> reel-to-reel, something I always wanted, but I opted for cassette back
> in earlier years for $ reason and because I could make a tape and play
> it in the car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S 4-track.  My Kenwood
> system, quite nice, but all I could afford at 21 yrs. old, does not
> accomodate the necessary tape inputs/outputs, dubbing, etc., and has
> no speaker A/B for a possible sub-woofer.  So onto look at more amps.
>
> I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel receiver & perfect Pioneer
> CD changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood KA-3500 40W/channel
> integrated amp and got it for $31.  I subsequently saw a 65W/channel
> late '70's Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in mint condition with the
> silver fronts, wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and analog tuning for
> $260 + shipping. He liked it the best out of the bunch, and we got it.
>
> He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made) speakers which are quite
> good (also my pick of the affordable ones we demo'd) and which are due
> to arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid '80's B&W English-made
> speakers for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a whim.
>
> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage LP'S (OK, 99%
> Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca, and
> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a vintage turntable and
> a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of speakers.
>
> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of musical detail I can
> hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any better) are
> just superb.  It sounds like real music and real voices.
>
> Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL tower speakers I could
> afford when I was much younger were not as good as what I'm listening
> to at the moment.  Just the musicality of what I'm hearing on 20-30
> year old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is astounding (I purchased
> 214, played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics receiver, cassette
> deck, a 2nd pretty good TT, and speakers (worthless), for $250). It
> was worth 2x-3x more than that for the LP's alone.  What I'm hearing
> is really better than what I hear on CD or iPod.
>
> Simply amazed... not over-imbibed, just astounded.  I got my hearing back.
>
> In between all that I found a '80's Pioneer 100W/channel amp, tuner,
> EQ, and timer for $95 in like new condition, which I got solely for
> the EQ & timer.
>
> (I'm not going to tell you this led to me getting a mint Denon amp &
> mint B&W speakers for myself... now looking for the right TT & tuner).
>
> It's not bad, living vicariously through your children.
>
> Tom
>
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Re: OT: Tree down

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> It's rainin' cats 'n dogs off & on today around here.
>
> Big ol' pine tree broke off and fell down about 3 houses down from me. I
> ?called the city and went out to take some photos. I'll post a peso later.
> Right now I'm waiting the feeling will return to my fingers & trying to get
> them converted to jpegs to give a CD to homeowner affected.


There's not much colder than cold rain.  Whenever people ask me what
the worst weather to cycle is, I unhesitatingly respond:  "Under 5C
(about 40F?), heavy rain, wind."

Look forward to that PESO, once you've gotten the chill out of your bones.

cheers,
frank


The storm is apparently the remnant of Hurricane Ida. It seems kind of 
late in the season for hurricanes. It hit here on Veteran's day when 
most of the government - such as crews that clean up fallen trees out of 
the street.


The first police officer who responded was a little bitty girl. I doubt 
 she weighed a hundred pounds soaking wet, which she was by the time 
she left, but it was left to her and another officer (guy about 150 lb) 
to do what they could to get that big branch out of the street, because 
the one emergency road crew on duty yesterday had bigger issues to deal 
with.


I'm having trouble getting the photos to upload to Flickr. I couldn't 
get my first effort to upload at all, so I went back and redid the jpegs 
in a smaller file size & Flickr is still stalling out during the upload.


I don't think it's Flickr's problem really, I think it's Time-Warner 
Cable Road Runner. I've had problems with a lot of sites in the last few 
months. Several times a day sites I regularly visit give messages "can't 
find the server". And it's not confined to only one site.


So, it may be a while.

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Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

[ann sanfedele]

paul stenquist wrote:


On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Scott Loveless wrote:


On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Bran Everseeking
 wrote:


A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at
least.

http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html 




Using Facespace and Mybook for photo hosting is silly.  People
uploading anything more serious than snapshots of their drunk friends
drinking drinks really need to find somewhere else to host their
photos.  Picasa and Flickr are free, easier to use, and allow the
photographer to specify copyright.  I'm not making excuses for the
abysmal behavior of Tom Anderson and Mark Zuckerberg, but calling
oneself a photographer and then telling all their friends to check  out
their slammin' pics yo! on Facebook is, well, dumb.



Quite right. And however much I suspect the motives of anything
Facebook does, I'm pretty confident the stripping of metadata is
mainly to conserve storage space and bandwidth (the same reason
Photoshop's "Save for Web" module strips metadata).


Exactly. I strip metadata from every photo I show on the web,  
primarily because I use PS "Save for Web." I show some photos on  
Facebook, because I have a lot of friends there who want to see them.  
They're lo-res pics that are useless for anything other than web  
display, and anyone who might want one for a website wouldn't 
purchase  it anyway. However, I have sold some hi-res images because 
the lo-res  version was shown on the web. Facebook's policy isn't a 
big deal. Like  you, I don't like everything they do, but I enjoy 
being able to  connect with long-gone friends from all over the planet.

Paul


using marnie's reply style :- ==  ann writes:

I got back on facebook only at the request of a friend or two
and it is useful for a few things - followed Mark's lead in "unchecking 
everything"
in the profile settings.. etc., and don't put photos there much... made 
them low res if I did.


I never use "save for web" anymore.. because then I've lost info I need 
as well as the copyright stuff.


I donated 6 photos of Scrabble players to Wikipedia entries about them 
and I may do a few more
that someone asked me for, but there all one's copyright stuff is in the 
metadata and even more info
about the files.  There is an elaborate licensing thing involved - but 
I've got my watermark on all the
photos as well (tiny, but there).  

It occurs to me , however, that ebay may likewise strip the metadata 
from the images i use there for

sales...but with those I always put "annsan scan" on the bottom.

ann
http://annsa.smugmug.com




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