Cheap battery grip

2009-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.31967

First of all it is interesting to see how cheap it is possible to manufacture 
this for and send it around the world. I can buy 7 of these including postage 
from Hong Kong to Norway cheaper than one single original Pentax grip bought 
locally. It has of course unknown quality, but I still think it will have some 
impact on the sales for Pentax, at least in Norway.


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RE: GESO Paris by PS

2009-12-22 Thread Bob W
 
 
 The Eiffel tower has become a carnival side show of late. 
 Flashing strobes. Yuck.
 

It was built as a carnival side show. It's not exactly a tasteful structure
- lighting it up like that is entirely fitting.

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Re: Cheap battery grip

2009-12-22 Thread eckinator
IIRC this also went around in reference to a grip for the K10D or K20D
and someone believed it was the company making the grip for Pentax
that had done another production run... goes to show that RD and
short life cycles are huge cost factors in this case, not materials 
labor. I'd still rather go Pentax
Cheers
Ecke

2009/12/22 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.31967

 First of all it is interesting to see how cheap it is possible to manufacture 
 this for and send it around the world. I can buy 7 of these including postage 
 from Hong Kong to Norway cheaper than one single original Pentax grip bought 
 locally. It has of course unknown quality, but I still think it will have 
 some impact on the sales for Pentax, at least in Norway.


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Re: PDML Annual-2010 ?

2009-12-22 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original 

 De: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
 Asunto: PDML Annual-2010 ?
 
 Mark (or anyone) - has the info been put out re: timeframe for submission for 
 the PDML Annual? And other details?
 

Stan,

I archived the following message:

- Mensaje reenviado 
 De: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Enviado: dom,6 septiembre, 2009 14:58
 Asunto: ANNOUNCEMENT: The 2009-2010 PDML Photo Annual... and exhibit
 
 
 The release of next year's PDML Photo Annual will coincide with an
 exhibition of photos from the book at the Dank Haus gallery in
 Chicago, Illinois, USA, May 7th through June 12th, 2010. 
 
 After much planning and discussion, the PDML's own Christine Aguila
 succeeded in facilitating an agreement between Dank Haus Gallery in
 Chicago and the editors of the PDML Photo Annual (and considering that
 the editorial staff includes myself, Bill Robb, Doug Brewer and
 Scott Loveless, that's quite an achievement!) for an actual exhibit of
 physical prints to celebrate the publication of the next book. As
 you'll see, this wasn't as simple as one might think. Read on…
 
 First, the book itself. 
 
 The last book was quite a rush project, and having the image
 submission period extending through the Thanksgiving-Christmas holiday
 season didn't make it any easier. So we've decided to push it back
 this time around, which will also get the book release closer to the
 time-frame of the gallery exhibit (which was slotted in the only
 workable dates the gallery had open). Image submissions will be
 accepted (via a web site as before) from January 1st through February
 28th. 
 
 Any PDML member in good standing of January 1st will be allotted one
 photograph in the book. Members will be permitted to submit up to
 three photographs for the book, to give the editors more latitude for
 creating a cohesive presentation. Those who want to be the sole
 determinant of what image they get into the book can do so by
 submitting just one image. Those who make the editors' jobs easier by
 submitting two or three images will receive our undying gratitude, at
 the very least :)
 
 The book is slated to be edited and completed electronically by the
 middle of March and the editors should have proofs in hand about two
 weeks later. If the proofs look good, the book will be available to
 PDML members immediately. (If revision is necessary there will be a
 delay of another two weeks or so.) Official publication will be on
 May 7 when the exhibit opens.
 
 The Exhibit
 
 The exhibit curator will be Sue Barton, curator of Dank Haus Gallery
 and chair of the Dank Haus Fine Arts Committee, who will select
 approximately 40 images from the book for display. Obviously, we
 expect to have more than 40 photos in the book so, equally obviously,
 not everyone will have their photograph represented in the exhibit.
 Much as we'd like to show everyone's photo, it just isn't physically
 possible. The final arbiter of photos chosen for the exhibit will be
 Sue Barton of Dank Haus.
 
 To insure consistency and quality of prints, I will be making all the
 prints here. We can't be shipping prints all over the planet and, more
 importantly, Sue Barton isn't willing to put on an exhibition of
 prints based on web images unless she knows the prints will be
 consistent and is familiar with work of the printer. (The only
 alternative would be for people to ship prints to her for
 evaluation/selection and that's clearly a non-starter.)
 
 I'll print on either Hahnemuehl Fine Art Pearl or Ilford Gold Fibre
 Silk paper. Sizes will be approximately 8 x 12 or 12 x 18, as decided
 upon by the curator based on technical quality and artistic
 considerations. 
 
 Framing will be done in Chicago. Christine Aguila has been doing a lot
 of leg-work on this and has succeeded in getting several framing shops
 to bid on the honor of doing the job. No kidding. This will assure us
 of getting very good pricing.
 
 Yes, you're going to have to pay for the printing and framing if you
 want to be in the exhibit. But the good news is that what you pay will
 be less than you could possibly get the same quality work done for
 yourself. A lot less. (I'm paying over $200.00 per 12x18 print for
 good framing these days. I expect the PDML price will be about half
 that, possibly less.) Prices will be definite by the time the image
 submission period begins.
 
 Sales of prints at the exhibition: Yes, you might even make a profit
 from this deal. Those whose photos are selected for the exhibition
 will have the option of offering the print for sale at the gallery.
 This will be subject to the gallery's standard terms (most
 importantly, their commission!), which Sue Barton will describe in
 detail before this whole thing goes on line. 
 
 In lieu of signing the prints that are offered for sale (not possible
 with this centralized printing scheme), artists will be able to
 provide a Certificate of 

Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing
 that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is
 likely to get over excited about that...

There was a while when I actually confused m43 and m42 thinking that
it was a misprint of sorts. Presently I find m43 a convenient
abbrevation.

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PESO - Three White Boomers

2009-12-22 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

I don't think any Australian on the list will miss the Christmas
reference in the title of this PESO (although 'six' is the usual
number).

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/189795/Three_White_Boomers.html


For those who don't get the reference, maybe this will help

(Warning! Rolf Harris ahead!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosGBYU5vIE



Cheers

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Re: PESO - Three White Boomers

2009-12-22 Thread paul stenquist
Nice shot. 
Fun stuff.
Paul
On Dec 22, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

 G'day all
 
 I don't think any Australian on the list will miss the Christmas
 reference in the title of this PESO (although 'six' is the usual
 number).
 
 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/189795/Three_White_Boomers.html
 
 
 For those who don't get the reference, maybe this will help
 
 (Warning! Rolf Harris ahead!)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosGBYU5vIE
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread frank theriault
Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

;-)

All the best for the season!

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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I will eventually buy one of these type cameras (that cheap thing  
again) but I wouldn't risk samsung for awhile yet.


Steve Desjardins

On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, P. J. Alling  
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep  
thing that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just  
know that JCO is likely to get over excited about that...


On 12/22/2009 2:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Yes, Brian, there is a lot going on on the net regarding seemingly  
imminent and rather close announcement by Samsung.


Interestingly in the discussion you mentioned they indicate crop  
factor of 1.57 which might mean that the sensors are this camera  
and those in Pentax are ever so slightly different.


Also, m43 is somewhat more attractive at least to me due to the  
fact that (as far as I understand) Leica takes part in the design  
of some of the lenses. Who is going to make the lenses for Samsung  
is yet unknown for me.


Though, indeed, the flood gates of smaller-than-slr changeable lens  
cameras market seem to have been completely opened.


Boris


On 12/22/2009 8:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Just came across this while looking for something else.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pentax-samsung-dslr/163567-samsung-nx10.html


Does this have basically the same sensor as the K20/K7?

Apparently it looks bigger than it really is (if the comparison  
photos

with the Panasonic GF-1 are anything to go by)


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:16 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
 weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:

Try months pal.:-)

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

 ;-)

 All the best for the season!

Made me smile, have a great season to.

Dave

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Presents to moi

2009-12-22 Thread David J Brooks
My cheapo flip bracket and third party SC28 cable have finally arrived
from ebay (link-delight and dreammaker2).

I'm now a pro in search of subjects.;-)

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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread Jack Davis
You're not as tall as I thought, Frank. ;) I suppose if I counted the antlers..
Thanks! Best to you and all.

Jack

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 Subject: PESO - Season's Greetings!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 5:16 AM
 Warning:  Not for family
 viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
 weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html
 
 ;-)
 
 All the best for the season!
 
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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread P N Stenquist

Love it!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Paul
On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:16 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

;-)

All the best for the season!

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Re: Cheap battery grip

2009-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
I think it's the tooling that costs a lot.  Once you've got the molds
for the plastic, it's cheap.

After owning a K20 for 1+ years, I bought one of the 3rd party grips.
I made sure to get one with the wheel on the vertical release as some
did not have this feature.  It works well for bigger lenses and it's
light, but still adds bulk to what you must carry around.

I question buying one for the K-7.  Battery life is good.  Battery
depletion is a soft failure.  And a spare battery is a lot smaller
than the grip.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:38 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 IIRC this also went around in reference to a grip for the K10D or K20D
 and someone believed it was the company making the grip for Pentax
 that had done another production run... goes to show that RD and
 short life cycles are huge cost factors in this case, not materials 
 labor. I'd still rather go Pentax
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2009/12/22 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.31967

 First of all it is interesting to see how cheap it is possible to 
 manufacture this for and send it around the world. I can buy 7 of these 
 including postage from Hong Kong to Norway cheaper than one single original 
 Pentax grip bought locally. It has of course unknown quality, but I still 
 think it will have some impact on the sales for Pentax, at least in Norway.


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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread eactivist


In a message dated 12/22/2009 5:16:55 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Warning:  Not  for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
weeks.   Come to think of it, you may,  too:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

;-)

All  the best for the season!

cheers,
frank


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Hey,  those are antlers not bunny ears! 

Heh. Seasons Greetings to you too,  frank (and everyone else).

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OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread Mark Roberts
I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
widescreen).

Any suggestions/recommendations?


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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread Mat Maessen
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
 my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
 support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
 widescreen).

Almost anything at this point will do that. You may need a breakout
cable to get the dual-DVI out of a single port on the card.

The big decision is ATI or NVidia for the chipset. There are people
who are religious about that war...

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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Happy Holidays Frank.
Not too scary for those of us who have seen the bunny ears...
But what happened to your legs man!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

 ;-)

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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2009-12-22 10:58, Mat Maessen wrote:

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com  wrote:

[...] time to upgrade
my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
support two decent-sized monitors [...]


Almost anything at this point will do that. You may need a breakout
cable to get the dual-DVI out of a single port on the card.


I second.  You should easily be able to get, for cheap, a video board 
that will do dual DVI out and support a pair of 2560 pixel wide screens.


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Re: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts

Subject: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card



I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
widescreen).

Any suggestions/recommendations?


I really liked my (NVidia) Asus 8600 card. I'm not so happy with my ATI card 
(and for

what it cost, it doesn't have dual DVI outputs either.
Look at the high end ASUS cards. I'm pretty sure that the issue I was having
with mine was caused by the C drive being a RAID, as the problem didn't go
away when we changed out the motherboard, video card, ram and processor.

William Robb


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Re: Cheap battery grip

2009-12-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan

Subject: Re: Cheap battery grip




I question buying one for the K-7.  Battery life is good.  Battery
depletion is a soft failure.  And a spare battery is a lot smaller
than the grip.


It's not just about battery life. Shoot a lot of verticlas and you will 
learn very quickly to like the grip. I'd buy (and did buy) the Pentax one on 
general principals, but the price difference isn't as great here, either.


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Re: Cheap battery grip

2009-12-22 Thread paul stenquist
What Bill said. What's more, the camera fits my hand much  better when equipped 
with a wrist strap and the battery grip. I wouldn't want to shoot without it.
Paul
On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:32 AM, William Robb wrote:

 
 - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan
 Subject: Re: Cheap battery grip
 
 
 
 I question buying one for the K-7.  Battery life is good.  Battery
 depletion is a soft failure.  And a spare battery is a lot smaller
 than the grip.
 
 It's not just about battery life. Shoot a lot of verticlas and you will learn 
 very quickly to like the grip. I'd buy (and did buy) the Pentax one on 
 general principals, but the price difference isn't as great here, either.
 
 William Robb 
 
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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:58:58AM -0500, Mat Maessen wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
  I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
  my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
  support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
  widescreen).
 
 Almost anything at this point will do that. You may need a breakout
 cable to get the dual-DVI out of a single port on the card.
 
 The big decision is ATI or NVidia for the chipset. There are people
 who are religious about that war...

I'm agnostic - I've got friends who work at both companies.
But unless you're going for the cutting-edge top-of-the line
product from either company (which is utterly pointless if
all you want is 2D graphics) it doesn't make any difference
which you buy; just about anything from either company will
be more than adequate.



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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy Holidays Frank.
 Not too scary for those of us who have seen the bunny ears...
 But what happened to your legs man!
 Regards,  Bob S.

If only we had those antlers when crossing the border in 2005 for GFM.
But then we would not have a story, now would we.:-)

Dave

 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:16 AM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
 weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

 ;-)

 All the best for the season!

 cheers,
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RE: PESO - Three White Boomers

2009-12-22 Thread Bob W
 G'day all
 
 I don't think any Australian on the list will miss the 
 Christmas reference in the title of this PESO (although 'six' 
 is the usual number).
 
 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/189795/Three_White_Boomers.html
 
 
 For those who don't get the reference, maybe this will help
 
 (Warning! Rolf Harris ahead!)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosGBYU5vIE
 

That's a very nice shot indeed.

Bob - spent my first Christmas in Australia


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RE: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread Bob W
 
 Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have 
 nightmares for weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html
 
 ;-)
 
 All the best for the season!
 
 cheers,
 frank

Happy Christmas, Prancer!

Bob


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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
I'm running ATI Radeon 4850 with two wide screen 24 inch displays 
currently under W7 64-bit with no problems whatsoever.  Quite happy with 
the set up.   Have connected other screens including CRTs over the year 
I've had the system.  I haven't calibrated  the color yet on this system 
as I'm using another system for most of my photo/imaging work.  Next 
years challenge is to move everything over to the W7 computer.  Also, I 
am thinking of adding another ATI unit early in the New Year. 


Otis Wright

Mark Roberts wrote:

I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
widescreen).

Any suggestions/recommendations?


  


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OT: cool space shuttle video

2009-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv5J5cBwwFc

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Re: PESO - Three White Boomers

2009-12-22 Thread Ken Waller

Cute buggers.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm

Subject: PESO - Three White Boomers



G'day all

I don't think any Australian on the list will miss the Christmas
reference in the title of this PESO (although 'six' is the usual
number).

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/189795/Three_White_Boomers.html


For those who don't get the reference, maybe this will help

(Warning! Rolf Harris ahead!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosGBYU5vIE



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Re: OT: cool space shuttle video

2009-12-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv5J5cBwwFc

Lovely. Thank you. :-)

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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts

I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
widescreen).

Any suggestions/recommendations?


Tiger Direct.

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Very OT: An adventurous Welshman...

2009-12-22 Thread Bob W
...takes a break from sheep. At first I thought it was a story about Bill
Robb.

http://tinyurl.com/ya45vzd

The journalist knows his trade - here's a quote:

Edwards claimed he had merely been stroking the dog in the backyard

Bob


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Re: Cheap battery grip

2009-12-22 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:39:02 -0600
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 I question buying one for the K-7.  Battery life is good.  Battery
 depletion is a soft failure.  And a spare battery is a lot smaller
 than the grip.

For me the K7 must have the grip or the unit is clumsily small in my
hands. sadly efforts to acquire them keep getting diverted to dentists
and auto repair

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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote:

From: Mark Roberts
 I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
 my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
 support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
 widescreen).
 
 Any suggestions/recommendations?

Tiger Direct.

I dealt with them once. They spammed me for months. They'll never see
another penny of my money.


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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread Mat Maessen
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Tiger Direct.
 I dealt with them once. They spammed me for months. They'll never see
 another penny of my money.

NewEgg.

-Mat

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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread steve harley

On 2009-12-22 15:08 , Mat Maessen wrote:

NewEgg.


+1 for newegg

also had decent luck with zipzoomfly and amazon.com (but not necessarily 
the 3rd party sellers therein)


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Re: PESO - Three White Boomers

2009-12-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  That's great!  I've never seen white boomers.  Thanks, Brian!  Cheers, 
Christine



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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:46 AM
Subject: PESO - Three White Boomers



G'day all

I don't think any Australian on the list will miss the Christmas
reference in the title of this PESO (although 'six' is the usual
number).

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/189795/Three_White_Boomers.html


For those who don't get the reference, maybe this will help

(Warning! Rolf Harris ahead!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosGBYU5vIE



Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Happy Holidays, Frank.  Wishing you and yours the best!  Fun pic!  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: PESO - Season's Greetings!



Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/seasons-greetings.html

;-)

All the best for the season!

cheers,
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GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

2009-12-22 Thread frank theriault
The bikies (especially Scott) on this list will appreciate this one.

A friend of my room mate's called me yesterday just before I left for
work and asked if he could deliver something.  He also told me that
Mark (the room mate) left a message with him that I should open the
Christmas card he left for me before he flew to Nova Scotia for his
Christmas with the family.

I opened the card which said (among other things), enjoy the frame.
I'm thinking, what, a picture frame?  I couldn't figure it out.

The friend had recently stripped down his old Marinoni road bike and
I'd been drooling over it.

Five minutes after our conversation, there's the friend at the door,
holding the Marinoni, big grin on his face, saying, Merry Christmas
from Mark!.

Here's some quick and dirty pix of it:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/marinoni-for-christmas.html

Marinoni has been making bikes in Montreal since the '70's.  They were
so prized that many Euro pros bought them, stripped the paint off them
and rode them painted with the sponsor's bike colours and logos on
them (a practice which doesn't happen in these days of very
unique-looking carbon fibre frames).  Marinonis (until recently) were
all steel, Columbus tubed and lugged frames.

All of them are hand-made by the original owner, Giuseppe, who still
handmakes all the bikes with his name on it.  Here's a very
interesting little article on him:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/business/story.html?id=2253a1ff-a288-45bf-9ada-e3ef22e91d56

http://tinyurl.com/yd8o6qs

This one is from the early-to-mid 90's, made of Columbus SL tubing.
It's not one of his premier models, but is a solid road frame that
should last a long, long time (and it's my size - 56 cm).  As you can
see, it's a bit scratched, but not offensively so.  I've had a banged
up road bike sitting unused in a corner, so my winter's project will
be to strip the parts off that one and have this beauty ready for the
spring.

A pretty damned amazing Christmas prezzie!

cheers,
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RE: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

2009-12-22 Thread Bob W
[...]
 Five minutes after our conversation, there's the friend at 
 the door, holding the Marinoni, big grin on his face, saying, 
 Merry Christmas from Mark!.
 
 Here's some quick and dirty pix of it:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/marinoni-for-christmas.html
 

Very nice - wish I had friends who gave me things like that. All I get is
rare tropical diseases and restraining orders.

Bob


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Re: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread Subash
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:16:41 -0500
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
 weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:

no i didn't :). season's greetings to you and everyone else on the list
too...

regards, subash

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Re: PESO - Three White Boomers

2009-12-22 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 I don't think any Australian on the list will miss the Christmas
 reference in the title of this PESO (although 'six' is the usual
 number).

 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/189795/Three_White_Boomers.html

Terrific shot, especially among the yellow flowers.

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Re: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

2009-12-22 Thread paul stenquist
Congratulations! Looks like a well made piece of equipment.
Paul
On Dec 22, 2009, at 6:57 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 The bikies (especially Scott) on this list will appreciate this one.
 
 A friend of my room mate's called me yesterday just before I left for
 work and asked if he could deliver something.  He also told me that
 Mark (the room mate) left a message with him that I should open the
 Christmas card he left for me before he flew to Nova Scotia for his
 Christmas with the family.
 
 I opened the card which said (among other things), enjoy the frame.
 I'm thinking, what, a picture frame?  I couldn't figure it out.
 
 The friend had recently stripped down his old Marinoni road bike and
 I'd been drooling over it.
 
 Five minutes after our conversation, there's the friend at the door,
 holding the Marinoni, big grin on his face, saying, Merry Christmas
 from Mark!.
 
 Here's some quick and dirty pix of it:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/marinoni-for-christmas.html
 
 Marinoni has been making bikes in Montreal since the '70's.  They were
 so prized that many Euro pros bought them, stripped the paint off them
 and rode them painted with the sponsor's bike colours and logos on
 them (a practice which doesn't happen in these days of very
 unique-looking carbon fibre frames).  Marinonis (until recently) were
 all steel, Columbus tubed and lugged frames.
 
 All of them are hand-made by the original owner, Giuseppe, who still
 handmakes all the bikes with his name on it.  Here's a very
 interesting little article on him:
 
 http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/business/story.html?id=2253a1ff-a288-45bf-9ada-e3ef22e91d56
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yd8o6qs
 
 This one is from the early-to-mid 90's, made of Columbus SL tubing.
 It's not one of his premier models, but is a solid road frame that
 should last a long, long time (and it's my size - 56 cm).  As you can
 see, it's a bit scratched, but not offensively so.  I've had a banged
 up road bike sitting unused in a corner, so my winter's project will
 be to strip the parts off that one and have this beauty ready for the
 spring.
 
 A pretty damned amazing Christmas prezzie!
 
 cheers,
 frank
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Re: Very OT: An adventurous Welshman...

2009-12-22 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 ...takes a break from sheep. At first I thought it was a story about Bill
 Robb.

 http://tinyurl.com/ya45vzd

 The journalist knows his trade - here's a quote:

 Edwards claimed he had merely been stroking the dog in the backyard

Right.  The backyard:  ...where he had gone to have a smoke and
relieve himself.

Was it the dog or Edwards who needed a puff and a piss?

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Re: GESO Paris by PS

2009-12-22 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 A short visit to Paris:

 http://www.repiuk.nl

 Didn't carry my heavy gear, only a Pentax WPi. While happily shooting
 with this PS I noticed allmost everyone on the streets carried a PS
 or camera/phone and everyone was very busy capturing their friends and
 family and everything else around them. Very funny to watch. Counted 0
 real camera shops, 0 Pentax and 2 Leica's!!
 I was the only one pressing my PS to a tree as an instant tripod.

I'd like to look, but the page keeps asking me to log in, plus it
seems to need flash (which I don't have) to view.

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Re: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

2009-12-22 Thread Jack Davis
That's great, Frank. You're obviously valued.

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:57 PM
 The bikies (especially Scott) on this
 list will appreciate this one.
 
 A friend of my room mate's called me yesterday just before
 I left for
 work and asked if he could deliver something.  He also
 told me that
 Mark (the room mate) left a message with him that I should
 open the
 Christmas card he left for me before he flew to Nova Scotia
 for his
 Christmas with the family.
 
 I opened the card which said (among other things), enjoy
 the frame.
 I'm thinking, what, a picture frame?  I couldn't
 figure it out.
 
 The friend had recently stripped down his old Marinoni road
 bike and
 I'd been drooling over it.
 
 Five minutes after our conversation, there's the friend at
 the door,
 holding the Marinoni, big grin on his face, saying, Merry
 Christmas
 from Mark!.
 
 Here's some quick and dirty pix of it:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/marinoni-for-christmas.html
 
 Marinoni has been making bikes in Montreal since the
 '70's.  They were
 so prized that many Euro pros bought them, stripped the
 paint off them
 and rode them painted with the sponsor's bike colours and
 logos on
 them (a practice which doesn't happen in these days of
 very
 unique-looking carbon fibre frames).  Marinonis (until
 recently) were
 all steel, Columbus tubed and lugged frames.
 
 All of them are hand-made by the original owner, Giuseppe,
 who still
 handmakes all the bikes with his name on it.  Here's a
 very
 interesting little article on him:
 
 http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/business/story.html?id=2253a1ff-a288-45bf-9ada-e3ef22e91d56
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yd8o6qs
 
 This one is from the early-to-mid 90's, made of Columbus SL
 tubing.
 It's not one of his premier models, but is a solid road
 frame that
 should last a long, long time (and it's my size - 56
 cm).  As you can
 see, it's a bit scratched, but not offensively so. 
 I've had a banged
 up road bike sitting unused in a corner, so my winter's
 project will
 be to strip the parts off that one and have this beauty
 ready for the
 spring.
 
 A pretty damned amazing Christmas prezzie!
 
 cheers,
 frank
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 Cartier-Bresson
 
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Re: GESO: Verticals

2009-12-22 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Being a blog post with a couple of extremely-vertical photos of many
 tall trees: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/12/21/Pacific-Spirit

 Note the 1:1 aspect ratio. I'm finding that increasingly addictive.  -T

I like square format, too.

And I like your photos, especially the two of the trees.

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Re: OT: Need recommendation for computer video card

2009-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Mark Roberts

 I want to set my computer up for dual monitors so it's time to upgrade
 my video card. I'm looking for one with dual DVI outputs and that can
 support two decent-sized monitors (a 24 widescreen and a 21
 widescreen).
 
 Any suggestions/recommendations?


Tiger Direct.


I dealt with them once. They spammed me for months. They'll never see
another penny of my money.


That sounds like BH.

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Re: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

2009-12-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats, Frank!  Looks like you'll have a fun time getting it ready for 
spring!  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)



The bikies (especially Scott) on this list will appreciate this one.

A friend of my room mate's called me yesterday just before I left for
work and asked if he could deliver something.  He also told me that
Mark (the room mate) left a message with him that I should open the
Christmas card he left for me before he flew to Nova Scotia for his
Christmas with the family.

I opened the card which said (among other things), enjoy the frame.
I'm thinking, what, a picture frame?  I couldn't figure it out.

The friend had recently stripped down his old Marinoni road bike and
I'd been drooling over it.

Five minutes after our conversation, there's the friend at the door,
holding the Marinoni, big grin on his face, saying, Merry Christmas
from Mark!.

Here's some quick and dirty pix of it:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/marinoni-for-christmas.html

Marinoni has been making bikes in Montreal since the '70's.  They were
so prized that many Euro pros bought them, stripped the paint off them
and rode them painted with the sponsor's bike colours and logos on
them (a practice which doesn't happen in these days of very
unique-looking carbon fibre frames).  Marinonis (until recently) were
all steel, Columbus tubed and lugged frames.

All of them are hand-made by the original owner, Giuseppe, who still
handmakes all the bikes with his name on it.  Here's a very
interesting little article on him:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/business/story.html?id=2253a1ff-a288-45bf-9ada-e3ef22e91d56

http://tinyurl.com/yd8o6qs

This one is from the early-to-mid 90's, made of Columbus SL tubing.
It's not one of his premier models, but is a solid road frame that
should last a long, long time (and it's my size - 56 cm).  As you can
see, it's a bit scratched, but not offensively so.  I've had a banged
up road bike sitting unused in a corner, so my winter's project will
be to strip the parts off that one and have this beauty ready for the
spring.

A pretty damned amazing Christmas prezzie!

cheers,
frank
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Re: Very OT: An adventurous Welshman...

2009-12-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault

Subject: Re: Very OT: An adventurous Welshman...




http://tinyurl.com/ya45vzd

The journalist knows his trade - here's a quote:

Edwards claimed he had merely been stroking the dog in the backyard


Right.  The backyard:  ...where he had gone to have a smoke and
relieve himself.

Was it the dog or Edwards who needed a puff and a piss?



Perhaps Bob W is familair enough with colloquialisms to tell us what 
stroking the dog means to a Welshman.


William Robb 



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Re: Very OT: An adventurous Welshman...

2009-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Plonk!  Time to block such foolish and derogatory emails from Bob W.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 ...takes a break from sheep. At first I thought it was a story about Bill
 Robb.

 http://tinyurl.com/ya45vzd

 The journalist knows his trade - here's a quote:

 Edwards claimed he had merely been stroking the dog in the backyard

 Bob


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Re: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

2009-12-22 Thread christ...@skofteland.net


Taking time out of my holiday to say: DAMN, DUDE!  That is one pretty frame.  
My dream frame is very similar.  I want a Colnago Master X-Lite.

Can't wait to see the finished bike.

Christian.


-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [knarftheria...@gmail.com]
Date: 12/22/2009 06:57 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: GESO - A Marinoni for Christmas (caution: Bike Pron)

The bikies (especially Scott) on this list will appreciate this one.

A friend of my room mate's called me yesterday just before I left for
work and asked if he could deliver something.  He also told me that
Mark (the room mate) left a message with him that I should open the
Christmas card he left for me before he flew to Nova Scotia for his
Christmas with the family.

I opened the card which said (among other things), enjoy the frame.
I'm thinking, what, a picture frame?  I couldn't figure it out.

The friend had recently stripped down his old Marinoni road bike and
I'd been drooling over it.

Five minutes after our conversation, there's the friend at the door,
holding the Marinoni, big grin on his face, saying, Merry Christmas
from Mark!.

Here's some quick and dirty pix of it:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/marinoni-for-christmas.html

Marinoni has been making bikes in Montreal since the '70's.  They were
so prized that many Euro pros bought them, stripped the paint off them
and rode them painted with the sponsor's bike colours and logos on
them (a practice which doesn't happen in these days of very
unique-looking carbon fibre frames).  Marinonis (until recently) were
all steel, Columbus tubed and lugged frames.

All of them are hand-made by the original owner, Giuseppe, who still
handmakes all the bikes with his name on it.  Here's a very
interesting little article on him:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/business/story.html?id=2253a1ff-a288-45bf-9ada-e3ef22e91d56

http://tinyurl.com/yd8o6qs

This one is from the early-to-mid 90's, made of Columbus SL tubing.
It's not one of his premier models, but is a solid road frame that
should last a long, long time (and it's my size - 56 cm).  As you can
see, it's a bit scratched, but not offensively so.  I've had a banged
up road bike sitting unused in a corner, so my winter's project will
be to strip the parts off that one and have this beauty ready for the
spring.

A pretty damned amazing Christmas prezzie!

cheers,
frank
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RE: PESO - Season's Greetings!

2009-12-22 Thread John Coyle
Hey Frank you didn't scare me at all!  But then I've lived too long to scare
easy...
Anyway, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all,


John in Brisbane



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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:16:41 -0500
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Warning:  Not for family viewing.  Your kids will have nightmares for
 weeks.  Come to think of it, you may, too:



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Re: OT - Samsung NX10

2009-12-22 Thread P. J. Alling

On 12/22/2009 4:15 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:


I wish people wouldn't abbreviate the Mini 4/3 cameras m43, I keep thing
that someone is building a Screw Mount, digital and I just know that JCO is
likely to get over excited about that...


There was a while when I actually confused m43 and m42 thinking that
it was a misprint of sorts. Presently I find m43 a convenient
abbrevation.




I understand.  I still see m43 as M42...


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I've upgraded to TB 3.0 either, but I never thought that TeX was being
resurrected and put to active use again...




Not TeX, wordpad RTF output treated as .txt


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