RE: PESO - Augsburg Castle Gate

[Chris Mitchell]

> From: Rick Womer
> Subject: PESO - Augsburg Castle Gate
> 
> Continuing my exploration of last spring's photos:
> 
> Near the center of Augsburg, Germany is a park, where the town's castle
> once stood.  Some walls are in ruins but others are maintained.  I came
> upon this gate in the morning sun:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10756197
> 
> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/250)
> 
> Rick

That's lovely Rick. You've managed good balance between highlights and
shadows and great composition.

Chris



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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Igor Roshchin]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:42 PM, William Robb 
wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin"
> Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab
>
>
>
>> I don't how it is now, - haven't used Walmart labs for long time.
>> It was interesting to read, Bill, and thanks for "heads-up" -
>> now I know that I should be careful with the next Walmart when
>> I'd neet to use it.
>
> It might be different down there. Wal-Mart USA, when I was with the
> company,
> was affiliated with Fuji, while Wal-Mart Canada is Kodak.
> Having said this, I think the trend is towards dry labs, since they
> require
> even less of the "technicians" than wet labs.
> I don't think it matters to them that the wet labs are better.
>
> William Robb
>
>

I think you are right. It's usually Fuji, not Kodak.

Next time I go to Walmart, I'll check what they have now.
I think the local one still has a wet lab.

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[David Savage]

Thanks Ann.

It's a Mini, Clubman model (I only know that because it was written on
the side :-)

DS

On 04/03/2010, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> That's fun, Dave love the streaks...
> What kind of car is that, btw
> (Mini clubman a car name? or a joke )
>
> ann
>
>
> David Savage wrote:
>
>>G'day All,
>>
>>Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:
>>
>>
>>
>>Direct link (~170kb)
>>
>>
>>D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.
>>
>>Enjoy.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Geso Air and Space Museum

[Adam Maas]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:27 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:16 AM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>
>> First shot looks like the De Havilland Beaver - one of the greatest
>> planes ever built!
>
> I;m pretty sureit is, its a model non the less. The real one is on the
> last page. I flew a lot in the beaver 1971-72, and on geo-chemical
> sample jobs. Used the twin otter to cache fuel and pick up sample, and
> the Bell 206 t fly into the lakes to get the samples. There should be
> a shot of the 206 model in there some were.
>
> Dave

There's no 206 shot, but there is a Kiowa, which is fairly closely
related to the 206 (contrary to popular opinion, the Kiowa isn't
actually a 206 in OD paint, but they're quite closely related, both
are descendants of the LOH program and share a lot of airframe
powertrain).

It's sad to see a perfectly good Beaver stuck in a hangar. Such useful
aircraft, even the prototype had a long career in commercial aviation
before ending up in a museum (My dad actually flew FHB, the prototype
Beaver, quite a number of times when he worked for Norcanair)

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[ann sanfedele]

That's fun, Dave love the streaks...
What kind of car is that, btw
(Mini clubman a car name? or a joke )

ann


David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Rob Studdert]

On 04/03/2010, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> If you're running FireFox, there's an FTP plugin called FireFTP that runs in
> its own tab within FireFox.  It handles TLS and SSL as well as SFTP.

This is what I use and what I've set up at all my clients sites, it's
very robust and will handle multiple retries and up to 10 simultaneous
transfers.

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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Paul Sorenson]

If you're running FireFox, there's an FTP plugin called FireFTP that 
runs in its own tab within FireFox.  It handles TLS and SSL as well as SFTP.


-p

On 3/3/2010 8:20 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

To those who insist on doing direct file uploads (there are situations
where that is still preferable), I would recommend a client that uses
SCP or SFTP, to amend the problems Mark mentions. WinSCP is one
freeware tool that fits the bill in Windows environments.
http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

It's also very important to have the ISP's webserver patched up with
the security fixes. ISPs who neglects this aren't worth anyone's
business.

Jostein

2010/3/3 Mark Roberts:
   

Joseph McAllister wrote:

 

On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:25 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:

   

these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident
or failure to display on my system nor any reports
thru ebay or direct from any ebay buyers reporting either.
Not sure why a few don't like them, pretty basic
stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc at this time.
 

While ftp uploading is rather anachronistic (you haven't replaced that
2400 baud modem yet?) I found that most of the time I get a photo of a
cormorant on a goose. But I did get the grey screen of WARNING on two
occasions. It may not be your photo(s) JC, but obviously the site
trips Google's crawlers quite often.
   

No one should be using FTP in the year 2010. FTP in inherently
unsecure because it passes password data unencrypted(!) and therefore
visible to anyone snooping anywhere between the sender and receiver.
There are known vulnerabilities in some routers which, if unpatched,
allow third parties to "eavesdrop" and grab FTP passwords.

The problem(s) with JCO's site aren't in the images. They're in other
files that have been uploaded by whoever has snooped his password.


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Re: A reintroduction from a long time (mid 90s) lurker.

[Cliff Morgan]

Yes, I know that location, usually get there a few times a year, often with the 
CRHA Niagara Chapter gang. Denfield Rd, just South of Gainsborough Rd (RR17), 
West of London... a great railfanning location.

Dave Howard 

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Re: A reintroduction from a long time (mid 90s) lurker.

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At 6:17 PM -0800 3/3/10, Cliff Morgan wrote:
Time to reappear again, as I've uploaded some photos for the 2010 
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followed the list since the 1990's, and still enjoy reading it, 
primarily via the list archives. I live in Southern Ontario, Canada, 
and am a member of the local photography club. I'm still a dedicated 
slide shooter (the last one in the club), but confess a purchase of 
a Pentax K200D for my wife. My main interest is fine railway 
photography, and I've had about a dozen images published over the 
years. Since a 1967 purchase of a Pentax Spotmatic, I've accumulated 
many Pentax bodies / lenses, my current favourites are a black MX 
with 5 FPS motor drive, MZ-S, MZ-5n, LX, and PZ-1p. Lens wise, K, M, 
and A series primes, I always expose and focus manually.


I'm having some problems locating my original PDML account, may have 
used an different name with all the span problems out there.


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Re: A reintroduction from a long time (mid 90s) lurker.

[Cliff Morgan]

I see the last time I posted was 2005, under the name Cliff Morgan, which I now 
see is still attached to the account I'm presently using. Still use the 
ZX/MZ-5n with a split image / micro prism, love it. 

David Howard (Cliff Morgan)   

ZX-5n Split Image / Micro Prism Focus Screen
Cliff Morgan
Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:37:27 -0700

As a very long time lurker a have a question for the
group. I recently eBay purchased a ZX-5n with a Split
Image / Micro Prism Focus Screen, loveit, loveit
loveit ... as I shoot slides with M and A series lens.
Is this a frequent modification, and can I do it
myself, as in the MX days?

Thanks,
Cliff Morgan







> Welcome back into the light!
> 
> stan
> 
> On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Cliff Morgan wrote:
> 
> > Time to reappear again, as I've uploaded some photos
> for the 2010 PDML Photo Annual, and Mark has suggested a
> reintroduction. I've followed the list since the 1990's, and
> still enjoy reading it, primarily via the list archives. I
> live in Southern Ontario, Canada, and am a member of the
> local photography club. I'm still a dedicated slide shooter
> (the last one in the club), but confess a purchase of a
> Pentax K200D for my wife. My main interest is fine railway
> photography, and I've had about a dozen images published
> over the years. Since a 1967 purchase of a Pentax Spotmatic,
> I've accumulated many Pentax bodies / lenses, my current
> favourites are a black MX with 5 FPS motor drive, MZ-S,
> MZ-5n, LX, and PZ-1p. Lens wise, K, M, and A series primes,
> I always expose and focus manually.
> > 
> > I'm having some problems locating my original PDML
> account, may have used an different name with all the span
> problems out there.
> > 
> > David Howard
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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 17:45 , William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Brendan MacRae"
Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab

It IS getting harder and harder to find places to develop film and  
print the old fashioned way.


Where I am, it has become impossible. Everything is scanned now. I'm  
pretty sure that the optical printer is dead.


William Robb



Have one less than a mile from me that is still keeping 2 processor/ 
printers of the wet/optical variety running, one at a time - nice to  
have backup. C-41 and B&W, chrome goes out. And they have a scanner  
that will put uncut rolls onto a CD for you for $5.00, 135 & 120.  
Saves a lot of time scanning at home.


My fear with them is that as quantity get lower, the quality of the  
negs and prints will become degraded for poor chemicals, dried chems  
on rollers scratching, etc.. A one woman storefront.


There is another lab about 15 miles from me that will do all three  
types of film, but everything is treated as "custom" with prices to  
match. Proof sheets or single prints 5x7 or larger only. Down in  
Seattle (Ballard actually) there still exists a B&W only lab, process  
and proof pretty reasonable. Custom prints 4x5(6) and up, pricey, but  
very good work.



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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Maas"

Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab




What sort of employees do you think they expect to have?


Good point. I went off to sell 2x4s and fence boards because the job had 
become more janitorial than technical.


William Robb 



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Re: OT: Boston Wedding Show

[Joseph McAllister]

OUCH!   Not me, but OUCH!

On Mar 3, 2010, at 16:37 , John Sessoms wrote:


Looks like a few photographers might be among the victims of the scam:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/01/ap/national/ 
main6257026.shtml


Apparently promoted through Facebook, Eventbrite and Twitter; all  
payments through PayPal.


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Re: A reintroduction from a long time (mid 90s) lurker.

[Stan Halpin]

Welcome back into the light!

stan

On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Cliff Morgan wrote:

> Time to reappear again, as I've uploaded some photos for the 2010 PDML Photo 
> Annual, and Mark has suggested a reintroduction. I've followed the list since 
> the 1990's, and still enjoy reading it, primarily via the list archives. I 
> live in Southern Ontario, Canada, and am a member of the local photography 
> club. I'm still a dedicated slide shooter (the last one in the club), but 
> confess a purchase of a Pentax K200D for my wife. My main interest is fine 
> railway photography, and I've had about a dozen images published over the 
> years. Since a 1967 purchase of a Pentax Spotmatic, I've accumulated many 
> Pentax bodies / lenses, my current favourites are a black MX with 5 FPS motor 
> drive, MZ-S, MZ-5n, LX, and PZ-1p. Lens wise, K, M, and A series primes, I 
> always expose and focus manually.
> 
> I'm having some problems locating my original PDML account, may have used an 
> different name with all the span problems out there.
> 
> David Howard
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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Adam Maas]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:42 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin"
> Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab
>
>
>
>> I don't how it is now, - haven't used Walmart labs for long time.
>> It was interesting to read, Bill, and thanks for "heads-up" -
>> now I know that I should be careful with the next Walmart when
>> I'd neet to use it.
>
> It might be different down there. Wal-Mart USA, when I was with the company,
> was affiliated with Fuji, while Wal-Mart Canada is Kodak.
> Having said this, I think the trend is towards dry labs, since they require
> even less of the "technicians" than wet labs.
> I don't think it matters to them that the wet labs are better.
>
> William Robb
>
>

A dry lab run by idiots is far superior to a wet lab run by idiots.

It's a lot harder to screw up and the screwups are more immediately obvious.

A dry lab run by experts is inferior to a wet lab run by experts.

What sort of employees do you think they expect to have?

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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Adam Maas]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Steve Sharpe  wrote:
> At 5:27 PM -0800 3/3/10, Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>
>> I went to Rite Aid the other day to get some 1 hour processing. No go.
>> They send ALL of their film to Portland, OR, now. So, I went across the
>> street to CVS and they did 1 hour and the prints looked pretty good and they
>> are wet prints.
>>
>> It IS getting harder and harder to find places to develop film and print
>> the old fashioned way.
>
> There is a camera store in Halifax (near me) that did all their own
> processing - C41, E6, B&W. Last fall they started sending their E6 out - to
> Vancouver or Montreal or somewhere - and when I asked I was told that their
> machine was leaving mysterious scratches on the processed film but that they
> would be getting it fixed. I'm still waiting, growing less and less hopeful
> each day...
>
> --
>
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> d...@eastlink.ca
> •

It may just take time, my usual E-6 place had their machine go down
and it was a 3 week turnaround getting it fixed. And that's a
lower-end pro lab that does a lot of E-6 in Toronto.
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A reintroduction from a long time (mid 90s) lurker.

[Cliff Morgan]

Time to reappear again, as I've uploaded some photos for the 2010 PDML Photo 
Annual, and Mark has suggested a reintroduction. I've followed the list since 
the 1990's, and still enjoy reading it, primarily via the list archives. I live 
in Southern Ontario, Canada, and am a member of the local photography club. I'm 
still a dedicated slide shooter (the last one in the club), but confess a 
purchase of a Pentax K200D for my wife. My main interest is fine railway 
photography, and I've had about a dozen images published over the years. Since 
a 1967 purchase of a Pentax Spotmatic, I've accumulated many Pentax bodies / 
lenses, my current favourites are a black MX with 5 FPS motor drive, MZ-S, 
MZ-5n, LX, and PZ-1p. Lens wise, K, M, and A series primes, I always expose and 
focus manually.

I'm having some problems locating my original PDML account, may have used an 
different name with all the span problems out there.

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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Sharpe" 
Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab




There is a camera store in Halifax (near me) that did all their own 
processing - C41, E6, B&W. Last fall they started sending their E6 
out - to Vancouver or Montreal or somewhere - and when I asked I was 
told that their machine was leaving mysterious scratches on the 
processed film but that they would be getting it fixed. I'm still 
waiting, growing less and less hopeful each day...



Film scratches are a real drag. They can be almost impossible to find.

William Robb

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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brendan MacRae"

Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab

It IS getting harder and harder to find places to develop film and print the 
old fashioned way.


Where I am, it has become impossible. Everything is scanned now. I'm pretty 
sure that the optical printer is dead.


William Robb 



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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Igor Roshchin"

Subject: Re: OT: The death of the photolab




I don't how it is now, - haven't used Walmart labs for long time.
It was interesting to read, Bill, and thanks for "heads-up" -
now I know that I should be careful with the next Walmart when
I'd neet to use it.


It might be different down there. Wal-Mart USA, when I was with the company, 
was affiliated with Fuji, while Wal-Mart Canada is Kodak.
Having said this, I think the trend is towards dry labs, since they require 
even less of the "technicians" than wet labs.

I don't think it matters to them that the wet labs are better.

William Robb


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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Steve Sharpe]

At 5:27 PM -0800 3/3/10, Brendan MacRae wrote:
I went to Rite Aid the other day to get some 1 hour processing. No 
go. They send ALL of their film to Portland, OR, now. So, I went 
across the street to CVS and they did 1 hour and the prints looked 
pretty good and they are wet prints.


It IS getting harder and harder to find places to develop film and 
print the old fashioned way.


There is a camera store in Halifax (near me) that did all their own 
processing - C41, E6, B&W. Last fall they started sending their E6 
out - to Vancouver or Montreal or somewhere - and when I asked I was 
told that their machine was leaving mysterious scratches on the 
processed film but that they would be getting it fixed. I'm still 
waiting, growing less and less hopeful each day...


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RE: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[J.C. O'Connell]

Ive been using coreftp and another one, filezilla, for ftp needs...

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Thanks for the tip.  I'm going to try it out.  I have been using Core FTP
Lite to date.

-- 
Bruce


Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:20:09 AM, you wrote:

A> To those who insist on doing direct file uploads (there are 
A> situations where that is still preferable), I would recommend a 
A> client that uses SCP or SFTP, to amend the problems Mark mentions. 
A> WinSCP is one freeware tool that fits the bill in Windows 
A> environments. http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

A> It's also very important to have the ISP's webserver patched up with 
A> the security fixes. ISPs who neglects this aren't worth anyone's 
A> business.

A> Jostein

A> 2010/3/3 Mark Roberts :
>> Joseph McAllister wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:25 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>
 these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
 on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident or 
 failure to display on my system nor any reports thru ebay or direct 
 from any ebay buyers reporting either. Not sure why a few don't 
 like them, pretty basic stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc 
 at this time.
>>>
>>>While ftp uploading is rather anachronistic (you haven't replaced 
>>>that 2400 baud modem yet?) I found that most of the time I get a 
>>>photo of a cormorant on a goose. But I did get the grey screen of 
>>>WARNING on two occasions. It may not be your photo(s) JC, but 
>>>obviously the site trips Google's crawlers quite often.
>>
>> No one should be using FTP in the year 2010. FTP in inherently 
>> unsecure because it passes password data unencrypted(!) and therefore 
>> visible to anyone snooping anywhere between the sender and receiver. 
>> There are known vulnerabilities in some routers which, if unpatched, 
>> allow third parties to "eavesdrop" and grab FTP passwords.
>>
>> The problem(s) with JCO's site aren't in the images. They're in other 
>> files that have been uploaded by whoever has snooped his password.
>>
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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Scott Loveless]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:32 , Scott Loveless wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:59 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..
>>> Our local Wal-Mart got Supersized, and with it, a brand new photolab.
>>
>> They recently remodeled a nearby Super Wal-Mart and did the same
>> thing.  I had been bringing my chrome to them and dropping it in the
>> send-out bin.  I couldn't even find the damn send-out bin the last
>> time I was there.
>
>
> Oh, they'll probably still send it out. AFTER you explain the the nearest
> salesperson what chrome film is, how it's used after processing, and that
> no, you do not need 4x6 prints from it. Best to stick a round a bit to make
> sure they don't thread it into their C-41 processor.

Good news, everyone!  I went to the local Wally World
this evening and the girl at the photo counter pointed out the
send-out kiosk.  It was 4 aisles over, buried amongst the inkjet
printers.

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Re: PESO - Solitude

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> A heavy, soulful, lonely, mood. Well composed.
> Reminds me of an earlier shot. Perhaps in the same alley?

I know I've never taken any photos in that particular alley.  I ~have~
taken photos in other alleys in the neighbourhood, but not that alley.
 I guess they all kind of look pretty similar after a fashion.

Thanks for the kind words, Jack, and thanks to everyone else who
commented and looked.

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Brendan MacRae]

I went to Rite Aid the other day to get some 1 hour processing. No go. They 
send ALL of their film to Portland, OR, now. So, I went across the street to 
CVS and they did 1 hour and the prints looked pretty good and they are wet 
prints.

It IS getting harder and harder to find places to develop film and print 
the old fashioned way.

-Brendan



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> From: William Robb 
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> Subject: OT: The death of the photolab
> 
> Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..
Our local Wal-Mart got 
> Supersized, and with it, a brand new photolab. I stopped in for a visit a 
> couple 
> of nights ago and got a small tour.
They still have a film processor, a 
> little siongle lane thing that is about the same size as a large suitcase. 
> Apparently it will do 15 rolls of film per hour.
What really galled me was 
> the "printer".
Kodak has gone to a dry print process, the new machine is more 
> or less a box with a rack of dye sub printers in it.
As with every 
> "improvement" we have seen in the photographic industry over thepast century, 
> the quality has gone downhill yet again.
I'm very happy that I gave up 
> photofinishing for 2x4s.

William Robb 

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Re: Zeiss on Pentax

[Sandy Harris]

On 3/4/10, Scott Loveless  wrote:

> Larry's comments about the Cosina lens got me to thinking (I know, bad
>  juju) about the Zeiss lenses recently produced in  K mount.  I've had
>  one opportunity to fondle a couple of them, and they do feel like
>  they're very well made.  Has anyone had an opportunity to compare them
>  with the LTD lenses?

For older Zeiss, see
http://www.leitax.com/zeiss-contax-lens-for-pentax-cameras.html

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OT: Boston Wedding Show

[John Sessoms]

Looks like a few photographers might be among the victims of the scam:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/01/ap/national/main6257026.shtml

Apparently promoted through Facebook, Eventbrite and Twitter; all 
payments through PayPal.


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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[John Sessoms]

From: Bruce Dayton

Wow, big change!  Last I had seen of dye sub was that it wasn't quite
as good as wet chemical prints and the archival life was much less.
Maybe nobody cares anymore that gets prints done at the labs.

Actually, my wife had some prints done recently from her camera to
give out to friends.  The pictures had their children in them.
Several of the moms asked if they could get the digital image -
didn't really need/want the print.

I have seen this coming for awhile.  My last bunch of weddings the
couple has really only wanted the digital images.  This is starting
to look like the Kindle/book thing.  I feel like cost will be the
driving factor.  Printing, publishing, etc all cost more than looking
on a screen.  I rarely print anything anymore and I rarely have
anyone ask to see a print anymore.  With computers and handheld
devices and digital camera screens, the print is a dying breed.
Maybe that is more where Kodak is headed.  The dye sub is probably
cheaper in small quantities.


May have been a lot of changes in demand in the last six months or so 
since I got fired from my photolab job, but we were making good money 
off of 4x6 C-prints. Mainly because the big Noritsu could churn them 
out, and consumables cost less than for the dye-sub printers.


The big demand for the dye-sub prints from the kiosk was teen-age girls. 
The biggest problem with the dye-sub printers was keeping sufficient 
consumables in stock. We frequently ran out of the paper required for no 
more reason than the distribution center didn't send enough to meet 
demand. I never understood why.


The main demand for C-prints was from on-line. The bulk of my business 
came in that way.


I got just enough film in the form of disposable cameras to justify 
keeping the film processor running, although because it was running I 
also picked up a bit of SLR business from people who still liked film.


And there were a couple of photographers who wanted to play with cross 
processing E-6 in C-41 chemistry.


Biggest COST center was customers jamming cards in the kiosk card 
readers and damaging the readers. Not only cost to replace the readers, 
but it could put the kiosks off-line until I received the appropriate 
repair part. At that, I was in better shape than most of the other labs 
because I could replace the readers myself and didn't have to wait for a 
tech to come out.


Second biggest COST was "books on demand", but that was because the 
corporation didn't allow for sufficient training and my subordinate 
operators wasted most of the consumable supplies the first week after 
that became operational. In that case, the inability of the distribution 
centers to supply consumables worked in my favor.


Once they'd wasted the critical components, I had to shut down the 
"books on demand" system and explain to the customers we couldn't do 
them without re-supply. That at least kept the untrained operators from 
wasting more supplies.


OTOH, we would have had to shut down the "books on demand" process 
anyway even if they hadn't wasted all the supplies the first week. We 
were never re-supplied with the critical components while I worked there.


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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[John Francis]

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:38:48PM +, Drew wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:29:45PM +, Drew wrote:
>>   
>>> David Savage wrote:
>>> 
 G'day All,

 Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:

 

 Direct link (~170kb)
 

 D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

 Enjoy.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 
>>> Great shot... love it!   I was a bit worried that it might have been 
>>> a  BMW 0.5 series.
>>> 
>>
>> Which is a far better car ...
>>
>>
>>   
> On a technical level yes, I could never deny that engineering has not  
> improved in the intervening 40+ years... but it's just another  
> hot-hatch, not dissimilar to the offerings from Toyota, Citroen, Fiat  
> etc etc... this one happens to be styled to take advantage of peoples  
> love for the Mini, just like the Fiat 500 and new Beetle do for their  
> respective followers.

The Clubman is probably the poorest choice of a new mini if you just
want to rag on it - it's actually a pretty neat little box, and has
several good design points (not the least of which being the choice
of side-hingeing rear doors; it's *not* "just another hot hatch" :-).


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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Igor Roshchin]

I have frequently used Walmart printing services but only
the local one. 
Compared to mini-labs from other stores (K-mart, Walgreens, etc)
1) the quality was more reasonable and more predictable
2) thanks to Walmart policy, - the operators usually were happy
to redo the prints that didn't come alright.

I don't how it is now, - haven't used Walmart labs for long time.
It was interesting to read, Bill, and thanks for "heads-up" -
now I know that I should be careful with the next Walmart when
I'd neet to use it.

Igor


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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Mat Maessen]

On 3/3/10, Larry Colen  wrote:
>  Wow! DoD is still around?

Would you like the FAQ? ;-)

-Mat

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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Mark Roberts]

Mat Maessen wrote:

>On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Sam Longley  wrote:
>> *de-lurks*
>...
>> I'm a brand new K-x guy (shot with a K1000 20 years ago).  Just
>> getting back into the obsession, er I mean, hobby.
>
>Holy cross-mojination, batman!
>
>Sam, be sure to bring up NeDoD with Mark. He's biker scum too. :-)

What? Sam's scooter trash, too? Excellent!
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=39
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/roadtrip.jpg



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Peso Shoot or dunk, do something

[David J Brooks]

I drive buy this place twice a day and I know there is a photo here some were.

I always have admired athletes that can play two sports.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10753872

Comments are welcome
K10D 50-200

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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

>
> I have seen this coming for awhile.  My last bunch of weddings the
> couple has really only wanted the digital images.  This is starting
> to look like the Kindle/book thing.  I feel like cost will be the
> driving factor.  Printing, publishing, etc all cost more than looking
> on a screen.
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
Not my daughter. They have arranged a photographer, i think, for the
wedding. Local guy, i have seen some of his stuff, very good, for a
Canon.:-)
Any way, price was good but it just included 2 people and the
converted RAW files as jpegs for them.

She wants a price on albums for us, and other family. I sid if you
have the files, albums can be made here quickly and at a reasonable
price. But my daughter, who knows everything, thinks otherwize.

LOL

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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Mat Maessen wrote:

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Sam Longley   
wrote:

*de-lurks*

...

I'm a brand new K-x guy (shot with a K1000 20 years ago).  Just
getting back into the obsession, er I mean, hobby.


Holy cross-mojination, batman!

Sam, be sure to bring up NeDoD with Mark. He's biker scum too. :-)


Wow! DoD is still around?





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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Mat Maessen]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Sam Longley  wrote:
> *de-lurks*
...
> I'm a brand new K-x guy (shot with a K1000 20 years ago).  Just
> getting back into the obsession, er I mean, hobby.

Holy cross-mojination, batman!

Sam, be sure to bring up NeDoD with Mark. He's biker scum too. :-)

-Mat

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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Mark Roberts]

John Graves wrote:

>Miserere et al.,
>
>I am on the North Shore.  Unfortunately,  I am waiting with great 
>expectations for the adjuster to arrive tomorrow.   :-(
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/4399841796/

Yow! Hope the insurance adjuster comes early. Then you'll have time to
come out. And you may need a beer or two...


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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:32 , Scott Loveless wrote:


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:59 PM, William Robb  wrote:

Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..
Our local Wal-Mart got Supersized, and with it, a brand new photolab.


They recently remodeled a nearby Super Wal-Mart and did the same
thing.  I had been bringing my chrome to them and dropping it in the
send-out bin.  I couldn't even find the damn send-out bin the last
time I was there.



Oh, they'll probably still send it out. AFTER you explain the the  
nearest salesperson what chrome film is, how it's used after  
processing, and that no, you do not need 4x6 prints from it. Best to  
stick a round a bit to make sure they don't thread it into their C-41  
processor.


If it doesn’t excite you,
This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Bruce Dayton]

Wow, big change!  Last I had seen of dye sub was that it wasn't quite
as good as wet chemical prints and the archival life was much less.
Maybe nobody cares anymore that gets prints done at the labs.

Actually, my wife had some prints done recently from her camera to
give out to friends.  The pictures had their children in them.
Several of the moms asked if they could get the digital image -
didn't really need/want the print.

I have seen this coming for awhile.  My last bunch of weddings the
couple has really only wanted the digital images.  This is starting
to look like the Kindle/book thing.  I feel like cost will be the
driving factor.  Printing, publishing, etc all cost more than looking
on a screen.  I rarely print anything anymore and I rarely have
anyone ask to see a print anymore.  With computers and handheld
devices and digital camera screens, the print is a dying breed.
Maybe that is more where Kodak is headed.  The dye sub is probably
cheaper in small quantities.

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 11:59:21 AM, you wrote:

WR> Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..
WR> Our local Wal-Mart got Supersized, and with it, a brand new photolab. I
WR> stopped in for a visit a couple of nights ago and got a small tour.
WR> They still have a film processor, a little siongle lane thing that is about
WR> the same size as a large suitcase. Apparently it will do 15 rolls of film
WR> per hour.
WR> What really galled me was the "printer".
WR> Kodak has gone to a dry print process, the new machine is more or less a box
WR> with a rack of dye sub printers in it.
WR> As with every "improvement" we have seen in the photographic industry over
WR> thepast century, the quality has gone downhill yet again.
WR> I'm very happy that I gave up photofinishing for 2x4s.

WR> William Robb 





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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[John Graves]

Miserere et al.,

I am on the North Shore.  Unfortunately,  I am waiting with great 
expectations for the adjuster to arrive tomorrow.   :-(


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/4399841796/

John / WA1JG

Miserere wrote:

Mark,

Bad timing, I've got a dinner to attend tomorrow  :-(

  

Non-members can stare in slack-jawed wonder at our awesomeness.



This could S be taken out of context! :-D

Just one thing, Mark, does this photo showing take place at a pub
because only in semi-darkness and with observers imbued with alcohol
can the photographs look half good...? I'm just asking...


 --M.


PS: Maybe Boston area PDMLers could take this opportunity to let
themselves be known so Mark or I can get a Boston e-mail list going.


  




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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

William Robb  wrote:

> Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..

It's definitely the way things are going, if we like it or not. No, I'm
not saying that analog photography is dead but it is getting more
complicated and more expensive by the day.

My Jobo processor has gone, two weeks ago, and so has a whole big
frigde/freezer combo full of film. Two main reasons: First, Noblex have
stopped production of their panoramic cameras and they haven't even kept
a stock of spares. Second, C-41 chemicals have become too expensive in
the small quantities I can still use up within reasonable time. 

So, the Noblex, the processor and the film had to go. Preparing
developer in batches of 5 liters and then throwing away 4.5 liters a few
months later just didn't make sense.  Risking a failure of the Noblex
and then trashing it instead of selling it now (still got around 900
euros for it) wasn't very appealing either.

I'm still keeping the rest of the lab gear with tanks, enlarger and
everything needed to do b/w, more out of nostalgy than any intention to
do much with it in the future. 

Not been doing much photography anyway, in the last months. I'm stuck
between the K-7 that I'll probably never really will be friends with and
my K10D that I've outgrown somehow. Stupid situation.

So, if you've been wondering why there hasn't been much news and pics
from my end, lately, you now know why. Still hoping it'll change again,
some day. 

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Drew]

John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:29:45PM +, Drew wrote:
  

David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

  
  
Great shot... love it!   I was a bit worried that it might have been a  
BMW 0.5 series.



Which is a far better car ...


  
On a technical level yes, I could never deny that engineering has not 
improved in the intervening 40+ years... but it's just another 
hot-hatch, not dissimilar to the offerings from Toyota, Citroen, Fiat 
etc etc... this one happens to be styled to take advantage of peoples 
love for the Mini, just like the Fiat 500 and new Beetle do for their 
respective followers.


Drew.



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Re: OT: The death of the photolab

[Scott Loveless]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:59 PM, William Robb  wrote:
> Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..
> Our local Wal-Mart got Supersized, and with it, a brand new photolab.

They recently remodeled a nearby Super Wal-Mart and did the same
thing.  I had been bringing my chrome to them and dropping it in the
send-out bin.  I couldn't even find the damn send-out bin the last
time I was there.

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[John Francis]

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:29:45PM +, Drew wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Direct link (~170kb)
>> 
>>
>> D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>   
> Great shot... love it!   I was a bit worried that it might have been a  
> BMW 0.5 series.

Which is a far better car ...


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OT: The death of the photolab

[William Robb]

Well, perhaps that's a little dramatic, but..
Our local Wal-Mart got Supersized, and with it, a brand new photolab. I 
stopped in for a visit a couple of nights ago and got a small tour.
They still have a film processor, a little siongle lane thing that is about 
the same size as a large suitcase. Apparently it will do 15 rolls of film 
per hour.

What really galled me was the "printer".
Kodak has gone to a dry print process, the new machine is more or less a box 
with a rack of dye sub printers in it.
As with every "improvement" we have seen in the photographic industry over 
thepast century, the quality has gone downhill yet again.

I'm very happy that I gave up photofinishing for 2x4s.

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Re: Peso Yield

[Paul Sorenson]

When I first started teaching flying, one of the guys that hung out at 
the airport on the weekends was an ex-WWII pilot who had wanted to get 
into the conflict early.  Don't remember if he flew for the RAF or the 
RCAF, but he had experience in both the Mozzie and the Spit.  He liked 
the Spit but said the Mozzie was the most responsive, delightful 
airplane he ever flew.


-p

On 3/2/2010 11:30 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:31 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
   

One more before i do the Geso.

Hope you can read the poster, kinda neat

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10740302
 

Ah yes, the famous Mozzie, one of Canada's great contributions to
WWII.  I think about 1,100 of them were built at the Downsview plant.

Interesting shot, Dave!

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Drew]

Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Drew wrote:


David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave


Great shot... love it!   I was a bit worried that it might have been 
a BMW 0.5 series.


I call them sesquiminis.





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LOL...  
There is an urban myth that one fresh faced BMW exec, flushed with the 
success of the MINI made a pitch for a new, slightly larger version he 
called the MAXI...  he was given a history lesson 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Maxi


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Zeiss on Pentax

[Scott Loveless]

Larry's comments about the Cosina lens got me to thinking (I know, bad
juju) about the Zeiss lenses recently produced in  K mount.  I've had
one opportunity to fondle a couple of them, and they do feel like
they're very well made.  Has anyone had an opportunity to compare them
with the LTD lenses?

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Drew wrote:


David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave


Great shot... love it!   I was a bit worried that it might have been  
a BMW 0.5 series.


I call them sesquiminis.





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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Ken Waller]

Great capture of a great little car.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" 

Subject: OT PESO - Mini Clubman



G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:20 , William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister"
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

I'm sure that we are just setting them up to go broke eventually,  
like
we did with the Soviet Union. Look! The billions they have in US  
bonds

and stock of ours  has devalued about 50%. That's gotta hurt!



The Soviet Union wasn't able to keep up with the arms race, and  
bankrupted itself by seeing America as being as much of a threat as  
America saw them.
Do you really think you did anyone (especially the people of the  
Soviet Union) any favours?
At some point, the Chinese will call in those bonds, and when that  
happens, they'll move you inland so that they can have the  
beachfront property.



You are likely correct, should it come down to it. But I'm far enough  
from the mostly deserted coast of Washington state that all I'd be  
worried about is the slight crowding.  Ever been to Tokeland?  This  
ain't California.


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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Drew]

David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

  
Great shot... love it!   I was a bit worried that it might have been a 
BMW 0.5 series.


Drew.


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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister"

Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,




I'm sure that we are just setting them up to go broke eventually, like
we did with the Soviet Union. Look! The billions they have in US bonds
and stock of ours  has devalued about 50%. That's gotta hurt!


The Soviet Union wasn't able to keep up with the arms race, and bankrupted 
itself by seeing America as being as much of a threat as America saw them.
Do you really think you did anyone (especially the people of the Soviet 
Union) any favours?
At some point, the Chinese will call in those bonds, and when that happens, 
they'll move you inland so that they can have the beachfront property.


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Cosina 55/1.2

[Larry Colen]

I played with Sasha's 55/1.2 last night at a friend's weekly blues jam.

I shot almost entirely wide open.  It's an intriguing, fun, lens. When  
it's on, it's razor sharp. When it's not in perfect focus it's got an  
interesting dream like  quality. It strikes me as a lens that'll take  
work to learn, but once you do, it has amazing potential.


The extra speed over my 1.4 and 1.8s came in very handy too.

I posted my first pass of picks at:
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Re: PESO our dog

[Jack Davis]

My he's big! I assume you were standing? ;)

Jack

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> Subject: PESO our dog
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> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:53 AM
> Our 11 year old labrador (in frog
> perspective)
> 
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/120-pepijn
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Re: PESO our dog

[Joseph McAllister]

Very regal. You done him proud!

On Mar 3, 2010, at 09:53 , Toine wrote:


Our 11 year old labrador (in frog perspective)

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/120-pepijn


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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 07:54 , William Robb wrote:

He ignores the costs of doing nothing.  Forgets the consequences of  
having a different suzerain in the world.  The only other nation  
that's been in a compariable position to the one the United States  
holds today during it's entire history was the British Empire.   
It's interesting to speculate what the world would be like under  
expansionist China or historically God forbid, a Nazi Germany, or  
for that matter an Imperial Russia or Imperial Japan, in the same  
position. I dare say they would make the World a less comfortable  
place for small rich republics.  Maybe we can get the British to  
take up the mantle again and we can retire to complacency.





Of course, your arguement is predicated on the presumption that your  
cold war foes were actually interested in running a global empire.
About the best that this sort of arguemnt can hold up is a Nazi  
Germany or Imperial Japan as posterchildren for how to do it wrong.
The USA tried financial imperialism instead, and succeeded for a  
while, but the reality is, any imperialistic empire, whether grown  
by force of arms of force of dollars is doomed to fail.
It will be interesting to see what China does, since at the moment  
to a great extent, yours country is their financial bitch.


I'm sure that we are just setting them up to go broke eventually, like  
we did with the Soviet Union. Look! The billions they have in US bonds  
and stock of ours  has devalued about 50%. That's gotta hurt!


Joseph McAllister
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Re: PESO - Side shot

[Scott Loveless]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:14 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Scott Loveless  wrote:
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qPvrUcKd4lPWfxb8FDuEGQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMrniqX9_LqD3gE&feat=directlink
>>
>> or http://tinyurl.com/yauzb2l
>>
>> Comments and critiques welcome.  No, Cotty, you can't have her phone number.
>
> Brings to mind Lillie von Schtupp of Blazing Saddles (except I don't
> know that Lillie had 'toos.
>
> ;-)
>
> Very cool photo, Scott.  Wonderfully conceived, and even with the
> hot-spots, well executed.  In fact that very pale looking flesh really
> juxtaposes well with the dark holster and fishnets.  Love those frilly
> undies, too!!
>
> Terrific shot.

Thank you, Frank.  And thanks to everyone else who commented.  I'm
glad you liked it.

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Joseph McAllister]

Nice grab. Lots of motion everywhere except the dudes. Shiny wheels!

On Mar 3, 2010, at 04:41 , David Savage wrote:


Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



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Re: PESO - Augsburg Castle Gate

[David J Brooks]

I really like this one a lot. Nice shadows

DAVE

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Continuing my exploration of last spring's photos:
>
> Near the center of Augsburg, Germany is a park, where the town's castle once 
> stood.  Some walls are in ruins but others are maintained.  I came upon this 
> gate in the morning sun:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10756197
>
> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/250)
>
> Rick
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Re: PESO In the belly of..

[David J Brooks]

Stiche errors do not show up on my mac book, but, cool shot. Lots of detail.

Dave

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> ..a C-130 Hercules from the weekend. Somewhat of a technical
> wonder/miracle, bustling crowd, 3.5yo on shoulders, backpack full of a
> whole lot of heavy stuff that I couldn't use due to the fact that I
> had 3.5yo on shoulders, 6 shots grabbed in full auto and stitched
> using Autopano:
>
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PanoIMGK03845.jpg
>
> Tech, K20D DA16-45 @ 16mm f4 ISO800 AWB, 6 shots 1/20s to 1/50s, some
> visible stitching errors but pretty good considering.
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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
>
>>G'day All,
>>
>>Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:
>>
>>
>>
>>Direct link (~170kb)
>>
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>>D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.
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> Damn, that Nikon takes sharp pictures!

Now you know why i'm trying to save up for one.;-0

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Re: PESO our dog

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Toine wrote:


Our 11 year old labrador (in frog perspective)

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/120-pepijn


Nice shot, good use of fill flash to get both the dog and the sky. It  
give it very dramatic lighting.




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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 3/3/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>G'day All,
>>
>>Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:
>>
>>
>>
>>Direct link (~170kb)
>>
>>
>>D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.
>>
>>Enjoy.
>
> Very Stenquistian. Very nice!

Bet me to it.;-)

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Re: PESO our dog

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I like the perspective on this

Dave

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>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/120-pepijn
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Re: PESO - Solitude

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> A heavy, soulful, lonely, mood. Well composed.
> Reminds me of an earlier shot. Perhaps in the same alley?

My thoughts  as well

Dave
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, frank theriault  wrote:
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>> From: frank theriault 
>> Subject: PESO - Solitude
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 8:22 PM
>> Hot off the presses!  Taken a
>> few hours ago this evening, I kind of
>> like the mood of this one:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/solitude.html
>>
>> Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: Geso Air and Space Museum

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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:16 AM, frank theriault
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> First shot looks like the De Havilland Beaver - one of the greatest
> planes ever built!

I;m pretty sureit is, its a model non the less. The real one is on the
last page. I flew a lot in the beaver 1971-72, and on geo-chemical
sample jobs. Used the twin otter to cache fuel and pick up sample, and
the Bell 206 t fly into the lakes to get the samples. There should be
a shot of the 206 model in there some were.

Dave
>
> Cool gallery, Dave.  Some nice shots in there.
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Re: PESO - Solitude

[John Sessoms]

From: ann sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:


>Hot off the presses!  Taken a few hours ago this evening, I kind of
>like the mood of this one:
>
>http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/solitude.html
>
>Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.
>
>cheers,
>frank
>
I do like it.  Very "film noir" - can you say that if its digital?  


Mark, maybe frank WILL do a book

ann


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Re: Peso After the snow Feb 27, 2010

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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:25 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
>
> It was kind of pretty on Saturday, eh?  We got nice big fat flakes in
> town, too, but by Sunday afternoon it was pretty much all gone except
> for a few piles on lawns and in the gutters.
>
> I like the mood of this one, Dave.  I guess  the birds are happy the
> snow's gone, too!

Yes they are. And so are the cats in my windows.:-0

Dave
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> ;-)
>
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> frank
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Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:11 PM, John Graves  wrote:
> Ann,
>
> Thanks...I was reading elsewhere that stopbath was essentially vinegar so
> why not.

Stop bath is essentially dilute acetic acid, same as vinegar. The
advantage of Kodak Indicator Stop Bath is that it has a dye in it that
turns purple when the acid content is consumed, so you can see in a
darkroom when to change it. The dyes are biodegradable and have no
environmental impact. Vinegar is cheaper. ;-)

> .. Now what about the developer.  I would use something like Ethol
> UFG unless this is really toxic and there is anything that is not.
>  Inquiring minds want to know .or at least one mind.

Some developers have trace small amounts of heavy metals in them (most
anything made with Metol, for instance). Kodak's XTOL, however, has
very little if anything that is not biodegradable ... it's mostly a
variation on Vitamin C. I moved to XTOL for virtually all of my
processing at the end of my time doing B&W film work, that is unless I
used a C41 process film which I simply let the local lab process for
me.

Fixer has small amounts of sodium thiosulfate in it, which is
typically used in pesticides, etc. California doesn't even list it on
the toxicity pages. However, exhausted fixer has small amounts of
silver salts in it, which are heavy metals that are pretty reactive.

Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and
environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a
home color chemical darkroom today is a mystery to me.

- In the minute amounts that even a seriously busy home B&W darkroom
produce, none of the waste products from B&W photography have much
environmental impact. Local regulation of environmental hazard is
actually more important from a political and legal standpoint than any
environmental impact.

- The silver salts in exhausted fixer are the most significant outputs
and should be handled as toxic waste when in quantity ... it should be
recycled ... for instance, when I was in the photofinishing business
in  a shop that ran an average of 150 135-36 rolls a day, we sold the
waste out of the film and paper developer machines on a regular basis
for the buyers to reclaim the silver. For an occasional roll of B&W
film, I doubt there is any significant environmental impact.

- I've never dealt with a septic tank so I have little to recommend
one way or another regards to that.

- Read up on local legal requirements for photographic waste products
with regard to disposal.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[David J Brooks]

And thats why ad exec's were not allowed into the Python writers room.;-)

Dave

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:47 AM, eckinator  wrote:

> in true advertising lingo it would read
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> Our more than one weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
>
> Our far more than two weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless
> efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to Pentax
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> Our far exceeding three...no... *Amongst* our plentiful weaponry
> no...  A a small part of our fearsome massive arsenal of sophisticated
> weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency,
> wu tang metering and shaolin shutter skills and the devotion to follow
> Pentax into an early grave...
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> and our spokesperson will be Axis Asahi aka Comical Ali ]=)
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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[John Sessoms]

From: "William Robb"
From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,


> He ignores the costs of doing nothing.  Forgets the consequences of having 
> a different suzerain in the world.  The only other nation that's been in a 
> compariable position to the one the United States holds today during it's 
> entire history was the British Empire.  It's interesting to speculate what 
> the world would be like under expansionist China or historically God 
> forbid, a Nazi Germany, or for that matter an Imperial Russia or Imperial 
> Japan, in the same position. I dare say they would make the World a less 
> comfortable place for small rich republics.  Maybe we can get the British 
> to take up the mantle again and we can retire to complacency.

>



Of course, your arguement is predicated on the presumption that your cold 
war foes were actually interested in running a global empire.
About the best that this sort of arguemnt can hold up is a Nazi Germany or 
Imperial Japan as posterchildren for how to do it wrong.
The USA tried financial imperialism instead, and succeeded for a while, but 
the reality is, any imperialistic empire, whether grown by force of arms of 
force of dollars is doomed to fail.
It will be interesting to see what China does, since at the moment to a 
great extent, yours country is their financial bitch.


Additionally, Johnson doesn't advocate "doing nothing", so it's a 
straw-man argument.


Johnson points out the costs of what we have already done, and suggests 
alternatives going forward that might be both more effective and less 
costly.




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PESO our dog

[Toine]

Our 11 year old labrador (in frog perspective)

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/120-pepijn

Toine

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Re: Boston PDML Thursday?

[Miserere]

Mark,

Bad timing, I've got a dinner to attend tomorrow  :-(

> Non-members can stare in slack-jawed wonder at our awesomeness.

This could S be taken out of context! :-D

Just one thing, Mark, does this photo showing take place at a pub
because only in semi-darkness and with observers imbued with alcohol
can the photographs look half good...? I'm just asking...


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> OK, the Boston PDML is me and Miserere, but if there are any other
> Boston PDML lurkers...
>
> The Photographic Resource Center of Boston University is having a
> photoslam (kind of like a poetry slam but with photos) on Thursday
> evening at 6:00 at the Wonder Bar, 186 Harvard Ave.
>
> Members (such as myself) will be showing off 5 photos each and
> describing the works and our latest projects. Non-members (such as
> Miserere - if he decides to come) can stare in slack-jawed wonder at
> our awesomeness. And drink beer. Did I mention beer? Should be fun.
>
> http://www.bu.edu/prc/programs.htm
>
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Re: PESO - Solitude

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


Hot off the presses!  Taken a few hours ago this evening, I kind of
like the mood of this one:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/solitude.html

Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

I do like it.  Very "film noir" - can you say that if its digital?  


Mark, maybe frank WILL do a book

ann


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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks for the tip.  I'm going to try it out.  I have been using Core
FTP Lite to date.

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:20:09 AM, you wrote:

A> To those who insist on doing direct file uploads (there are situations
A> where that is still preferable), I would recommend a client that uses
A> SCP or SFTP, to amend the problems Mark mentions. WinSCP is one
A> freeware tool that fits the bill in Windows environments.
A> http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

A> It's also very important to have the ISP's webserver patched up with
A> the security fixes. ISPs who neglects this aren't worth anyone's
A> business.

A> Jostein

A> 2010/3/3 Mark Roberts :
>> Joseph McAllister wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:25 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>
 these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
 on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident
 or failure to display on my system nor any reports
 thru ebay or direct from any ebay buyers reporting either.
 Not sure why a few don't like them, pretty basic
 stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc at this time.
>>>
>>>While ftp uploading is rather anachronistic (you haven't replaced that
>>>2400 baud modem yet?) I found that most of the time I get a photo of a
>>>cormorant on a goose. But I did get the grey screen of WARNING on two
>>>occasions. It may not be your photo(s) JC, but obviously the site
>>>trips Google's crawlers quite often.
>>
>> No one should be using FTP in the year 2010. FTP in inherently
>> unsecure because it passes password data unencrypted(!) and therefore
>> visible to anyone snooping anywhere between the sender and receiver.
>> There are known vulnerabilities in some routers which, if unpatched,
>> allow third parties to "eavesdrop" and grab FTP passwords.
>>
>> The problem(s) with JCO's site aren't in the images. They're in other
>> files that have been uploaded by whoever has snooped his password.
>>
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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Bruce Dayton]

Very nicely done.  Seems to be about the right shutter speed to show
the panning motion.  I like it.

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:41:30 AM, you wrote:

DS> G'day All,

DS> Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:

DS> 

DS> Direct link (~170kb)
DS> 

DS> D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

DS> Enjoy.

DS> Cheers,

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RE: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[J.C. O'Connell]

At this time I don't have a website, private or otherwise, Im only using
my ftp space as a public folder for image serving.
There is nothing in there that can be hacked anyway.
I don't consider the space private or as a backup
or anything like that. Just the oppisite, I have
everyting in the site backed up on the PC.

According to my host, the public folders and subdirectories
are the only folders accessable without the main password.

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AlunFoto wrote:

>To those who insist on doing direct file uploads (there are situations 
>where that is still preferable), I would recommend a client that uses 
>SCP or SFTP, to amend the problems Mark mentions. WinSCP is one 
>freeware tool that fits the bill in Windows environments. 
>http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

WinSCP is what I'm using at the moment.

>It's also very important to have the ISP's webserver patched up with 
>the security fixes. ISPs who neglects this aren't worth anyone's 
>business.

Avoid the really lowball web hosting services for this reason.


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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling"

Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,



He ignores the costs of doing nothing.  Forgets the consequences of having 
a different suzerain in the world.  The only other nation that's been in a 
compariable position to the one the United States holds today during it's 
entire history was the British Empire.  It's interesting to speculate what 
the world would be like under expansionist China or historically God 
forbid, a Nazi Germany, or for that matter an Imperial Russia or Imperial 
Japan, in the same position. I dare say they would make the World a less 
comfortable place for small rich republics.  Maybe we can get the British 
to take up the mantle again and we can retire to complacency.





Of course, your arguement is predicated on the presumption that your cold 
war foes were actually interested in running a global empire.
About the best that this sort of arguemnt can hold up is a Nazi Germany or 
Imperial Japan as posterchildren for how to do it wrong.
The USA tried financial imperialism instead, and succeeded for a while, but 
the reality is, any imperialistic empire, whether grown by force of arms of 
force of dollars is doomed to fail.
It will be interesting to see what China does, since at the moment to a 
great extent, yours country is their financial bitch.


William Robb 



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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/28/2010 5:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Adam Maas

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Adam Maas  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms 
 wrote:

>> From: "P. J. Alling"

>>>
>>> I hate it when people wave Charles Johnson around, I happen to 
have
>>> degrees in Economics and History, and I think he's full of 
crap. ?Then again

>>> I'm not an academic and I don't have to be nice to these people.

>>
>> Who is "Charles Johnson"?

>
> He's the proprietor of the Little Green Footballs blog and the person
> who proved that the 60 Minutes Bush ANG Memos were fakes. 
Something of

> a raging crank, but also something of an expert on font
> implementations in Word Processors (He wrote a fair bit of the font
> code for one of the more popular Amiga word processors). That made 
him

> somewhat famous, but he's also the classic example of a Liberal who's
> been mugged (Conservative only due to Sept 11, in reality rather much
> left wing aside from a severe dislike for Islamic terrorists)
>
>


As a note, I'm pretty sure PJ was referring to Chalmers Johnson, not
Charles. I'm not familiar with Chalmers.



Hard for me to understand how anyone would get the two confused then.

Chalmers Johnson is a former Naval Officer, CIA consultant and 
Professor Emeritus of Political Science at UC San Diego. Founder of 
Japan Policy Research Institute. Early critic of neo-liberal economic 
policies(aka neo-conservatism)using Japanese economic stagnation in 
the 90s as his model.


Came to question the increase in U.S. post-Soviet militarism worldwide 
and the over reliance on military "solutions" in the absence of any 
real global competitor. Chalmers Johnson holds that America's hegemony 
is a global empire based on overseas military bases and that increased 
U.S. militarism abroad reduces U.S. domestic security by fostering ill 
feeling and  encourages terrorism.


Probably best known for his trilogy:
* Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire


He ignores the costs of doing nothing.  Forgets the consequences of 
having a different suzerain in the world.  The only other nation that's 
been in a compariable position to the one the United States holds today 
during it's entire history was the British Empire.  It's interesting to 
speculate what the world would be like under expansionist China or 
historically God forbid, a Nazi Germany, or for that matter an Imperial 
Russia or Imperial Japan, in the same position. I dare say they would 
make the World a less comfortable place for small rich republics.  Maybe 
we can get the British to take up the mantle again and we can retire to 
complacency.



* The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic


Anyone who thinks the United States has anything like a traditional 
empire is foolish in the extreme.  The republic may be over.  I fear 
that may be true, but I don't think that the Trade Coalition we preside 
over is the cause.



* Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic.



What they have in common is my disdain.  Though for different reasons.


I would truly like to see the restoration of the Republic to something 
like it's original form, but that requires educating an entire 
generation to the Rule of Thumb social engineering  of the founders and 
away from current academic theories which seem to be at odds with reality.


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Re: OT PESO - Spectre

[David Savage]

Thanks Dave.

DS

On 2 March 2010 23:05, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Love the mood, shadow detail and composition on this.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:15 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> >From down town Fremantle near sunset on a hot summer day:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Direct Link (~300kb)
>>
>> 
>>
>> D700, AF-D 35mm f2, 1/1600 f6.3, ISO 400.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave

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Re: OT PESO - M

[David Savage]

On 3 March 2010 13:02, frank theriault  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:39 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Rediscovered this shot of Casey in my archive today and thought it was
>> quite nice:
>
> Yes, quite.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> ps:  I guess what I really mean is that it's a freaking awesome photograph.

Hehehe...

Thanks Frank.

And thanks to all how had a look and commented.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT PESO - M

[David Savage]

On 2 March 2010 05:14, Derby Chang  wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
>>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Rediscovered this shot of Casey in my archive today and thought it was
>> quite nice:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Direct Link (~125kb)
>>
>> 
>>
>> D700, AF-S 24-70mm f2.8 @ 35mm, 1/500 @ f3.5, ISO 100.
>>
>> Just trying a different type of lighting. Shooting into the sun, using
>> a reflector to throw some light back into the shadows & metered for
>> the shadows.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>
>
> Choice!

Choice is good :-)

DS

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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[AlunFoto]

2010/3/3 John Sessoms :
>>> > If we're going to abide by the Truth in Advertising law, shouldn't we
>>> > at least spell it: "Illuminaughty"?
>>
>> No one expects the illuminaughty
>
> Delusion-naughty OTOH.

Delusinati sounds a lot more deceptive. :-)

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Re: A merit of unFOCUSed photo -- Photo for Frank (not mine)

[CheekyGeek]

Not sure if this qualifies as UNfocused, but while we are (close to)
on the subject, this may be of interest.
Home made lens attached to my K200D. Life took a turn which caused me
to put this aside, but I've just ordered a proper body cap for it and
plan to take more photos with it soon.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157606526668405/
I have to admit to enjoying some of the almost abstract art possible with it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/2729890366/in/set-72157606526668405/

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: PESO In the belly of..

[John Sessoms]

From: Rob Studdert

..a C-130 Hercules from the weekend. Somewhat of a technical
wonder/miracle, bustling crowd, 3.5yo on shoulders, backpack full of a
whole lot of heavy stuff that I couldn't use due to the fact that I
had 3.5yo on shoulders, 6 shots grabbed in full auto and stitched
using Autopano:

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PanoIMGK03845.jpg

Tech, K20D DA16-45 @ 16mm f4 ISO800 AWB, 6 shots 1/20s to 1/50s, some
visible stitching errors but pretty good considering.


Not just a C-130, but a C-130 with palletized seats for VIPs. Heard 
about, but never seen until now. ;-D


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Re: A merit of unFOCUSed photo -- Photo for Frank (not mine)

[Jack Davis]

That's pretty much the way my memory records everything. :(

Jack

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Igor Roshchin  wrote:

> From: Igor Roshchin 
> Subject: A merit of unFOCUSed photo -- Photo for Frank (not mine)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:10 AM
> 
> I found this photo, where the lack of focus is well
> motivated:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gulinvardar/3535032353/
> 
> :-)
> 
> Igor
> 
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Re: PDML Photo Annual, Part 2 begins

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:52 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM, ? wrote:
>

>> If we're a secret society devoted to photography, how could we call
>> ourselves anything but "The Illuminati"?

>
> If we're going to abide by the Truth in Advertising law, shouldn't we
> at least spell it: "Illuminaughty"?


No one expects the illuminaughty


Delusion-naughty OTOH.

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Re: PESO In the belly of..

[Rick Womer]

Nice shot, especially under the circumstances!

Don't let U.S. Airways see this--they'll adopt it as their new cabin decor.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> From: Rob Studdert 
> Subject: PESO In the belly of..
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 9:51 PM
> ..a C-130 Hercules from the weekend.
> Somewhat of a technical
> wonder/miracle, bustling crowd, 3.5yo on shoulders,
> backpack full of a
> whole lot of heavy stuff that I couldn't use due to the
> fact that I
> had 3.5yo on shoulders, 6 shots grabbed in full auto and
> stitched
> using Autopano:
> 
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PanoIMGK03845.jpg
> 
> Tech, K20D DA16-45 @ 16mm f4 ISO800 AWB, 6 shots 1/20s to
> 1/50s, some
> visible stitching errors but pretty good considering.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

[Paul Sorenson]

This is the best choice - to take all your old chemistry to a household 
hazardous waste pickup point so it can be dealt with properly.


Putting them into your septic system creates two issues.  The first 
being any potential damage to your septic/soil absorption system and the 
possibility of the chemicals killing the bacteria that are the "workmen" 
of the system.  The second issue has to do with the non-biodegradable 
chemicals passing through the system with the effluent into the soil and 
potentially contaminating the ground water.  Neither of these are 
beneficial occurrences.


Even prescription drugs are being found in our water supply, partly from 
unused pills being dumped down the toilet and partly from passing 
through our bodies when we're on medication.  No need to add other 
chemicals to the mix.


-p

On 3/2/2010 5:11 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

John Graves wrote:

> I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are > 
beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to 
dispose > of the required chemicals.  I would be using something 
like Ethol UFG > on TMax or equivalents.   It looks like fixer with 
a simple treatment > (desilvering) is dumpable, but what about the 
developer and stopbath? > I am on a septic system and don't want to 
spoil a good system.

>
> Any suggestions either in disposal or alternative products is 
welcome.


Mix your used developer and stop bath together so they balance out. 
They definitely should not go into the septic system. Most areas have 
a household hazardous waste disposal location or periodic collection 
and you should be able to take it there.


Here in Raleigh/Wake County NC it used to be first Saturday of the 
month, but they've recently expanded the service to six days a week 
year round. Specifically lists "photographic chemicals" among the 
itemss accepted.


No additional charge beyond what I already pay for 
water/sewer/trash/curbside recycling.


Try Googling "Your Town/County State household hazardous waste" - 
that's how I found out about the new facility in Wake County.


If they don't take fixer, I'd ask around local mini-labs. If you're 
not generating great quantities of waste, you can probably find one 
that will take the used fixer and add it to their own chemicals for 
de-silvering.


They might be willing to take on your used developer and stop as well.



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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Mark Roberts]

AlunFoto wrote:

>To those who insist on doing direct file uploads (there are situations
>where that is still preferable), I would recommend a client that uses
>SCP or SFTP, to amend the problems Mark mentions. WinSCP is one
>freeware tool that fits the bill in Windows environments.
>http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

WinSCP is what I'm using at the moment.

>It's also very important to have the ISP's webserver patched up with
>the security fixes. ISPs who neglects this aren't worth anyone's
>business.

Avoid the really lowball web hosting services for this reason.


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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[AlunFoto]

To those who insist on doing direct file uploads (there are situations
where that is still preferable), I would recommend a client that uses
SCP or SFTP, to amend the problems Mark mentions. WinSCP is one
freeware tool that fits the bill in Windows environments.
http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

It's also very important to have the ISP's webserver patched up with
the security fixes. ISPs who neglects this aren't worth anyone's
business.

Jostein

2010/3/3 Mark Roberts :
> Joseph McAllister wrote:
>
>>On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:25 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>> these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
>>> on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident
>>> or failure to display on my system nor any reports
>>> thru ebay or direct from any ebay buyers reporting either.
>>> Not sure why a few don't like them, pretty basic
>>> stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc at this time.
>>
>>While ftp uploading is rather anachronistic (you haven't replaced that
>>2400 baud modem yet?) I found that most of the time I get a photo of a
>>cormorant on a goose. But I did get the grey screen of WARNING on two
>>occasions. It may not be your photo(s) JC, but obviously the site
>>trips Google's crawlers quite often.
>
> No one should be using FTP in the year 2010. FTP in inherently
> unsecure because it passes password data unencrypted(!) and therefore
> visible to anyone snooping anywhere between the sender and receiver.
> There are known vulnerabilities in some routers which, if unpatched,
> allow third parties to "eavesdrop" and grab FTP passwords.
>
> The problem(s) with JCO's site aren't in the images. They're in other
> files that have been uploaded by whoever has snooped his password.
>
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A merit of unFOCUSed photo -- Photo for Frank (not mine)

[Igor Roshchin]

I found this photo, where the lack of focus is well motivated:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gulinvardar/3535032353/

:-)

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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Cotty]

On 3/3/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>G'day All,
>
>Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:
>
>
>
>Direct link (~170kb)
>
>
>D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.
>
>Enjoy.

Very Stenquistian. Very nice!

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Re: PESO - Solitude

[Jack Davis]

A heavy, soulful, lonely, mood. Well composed.
Reminds me of an earlier shot. Perhaps in the same alley?

Jack

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Solitude
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 8:22 PM
> Hot off the presses!  Taken a
> few hours ago this evening, I kind of
> like the mood of this one:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/solitude.html
> 
> Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[Mark Roberts]

David Savage wrote:

>G'day All,
>
>Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:
>
>
>
>Direct link (~170kb)
>
>
>D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Damn, that Nikon takes sharp pictures!

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OT PESO - Mini Clubman

[David Savage]

G'day All,

Last one from my Fremantle night time excursion:



Direct link (~170kb)


D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/6 @ f5, ISO 1600.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO - Spadina Cars

[eckinator]

2010/3/1 frank theriault :
> Taken on Friday night, when we still had some snow (much of it melted today).
>
> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/02/spadina-cars.html

Frank, I was holding that back but I genuinely hate you sometimes for
constantly bringing back up in me how much I want to to go back to
Toronto with those unignorable shots of yours. I was so happy there
and yet too young and foolish to grab that opportunity and stay =(

I guess you'll have to find me a job there to repair that damage...
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: A400/5.6 Shots a bird

[Mark Roberts]

Joseph McAllister wrote:

>On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:25 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>> these files are ftp uploaded and seem to work fine
>> on ebay for many many many times (1000's)all without incident
>> or failure to display on my system nor any reports
>> thru ebay or direct from any ebay buyers reporting either.
>> Not sure why a few don't like them, pretty basic
>> stuff. I use CA antivirus service on the pc at this time.
>
>While ftp uploading is rather anachronistic (you haven't replaced that  
>2400 baud modem yet?) I found that most of the time I get a photo of a  
>cormorant on a goose. But I did get the grey screen of WARNING on two  
>occasions. It may not be your photo(s) JC, but obviously the site  
>trips Google's crawlers quite often.

No one should be using FTP in the year 2010. FTP in inherently
unsecure because it passes password data unencrypted(!) and therefore
visible to anyone snooping anywhere between the sender and receiver.
There are known vulnerabilities in some routers which, if unpatched,
allow third parties to "eavesdrop" and grab FTP passwords.

The problem(s) with JCO's site aren't in the images. They're in other
files that have been uploaded by whoever has snooped his password.


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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,

[paul stenquist]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:07 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, P N Stenquist  
> wrote:
> 
>  Nixon won the '68 electon because Humphrey wasn't a viable alternative.
> 
> 
> He also won because someone shot Bobby Kennedy.  I suspect that the
> world might be considerably different today had Kennedy become
> president of the USA.
> 
Kennedy was lionized by the left after he was shot, but, like his brother,  he 
was pretty much of a centrist at the time. I was an avowed lefty at the time, a 
radical by some measures, and Gene McCarthy was the strong anti-war candidate. 
The Democrat establishment of the day didn't want a liberal president. 
Paul

> Mind you, I thought things might change after Obama was elected...
> 
> :-(
> 
> ever the naive optomist,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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