Re: PESO - Turbofan

[Bong Manayon]

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:57 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> Great =)
> Just wondering, why can't I see a larger version by clicking the image?
> Cheers
> Ecke

Because there isn't any, I only upload screen size photos (600px or so...).

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Re: Geso Barn redo

[paul stenquist]

I like the blue sky version on the far left. You could probably pull a little 
more out of the shadows. But nice as presented.
Great scene.
Paul
On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:52 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Thanks.
> 
> To answer your question, no i did not. My only polarizer  does not fit
> my 50-200, but maybe worth a try on the 16-45. Its supposed to be
> rather nice again Sunday.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, eckinator  wrote:
>> Much better, Dave. Just wondering, did you try to use a polarizer to
>> push the sky some more?
>> Thanks for sharing
>> Ecke
>> 
>> 2010/7/3 David J Brooks :
>>> Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
>>> blue skies.
>>> 
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Re: OT New York border like 4.5 miles ?

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Subject: Re: OT New York border like 4.5 miles ?

I converted a full size school bus into a camper and used to take it 
through drive thru lanes, how big is your truck?




Not that big, they just seriously botched this particular drive through.

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[paul stenquist]

Thanks Godders. Trailing curtain and cars kind of go together. I don't use it 
often enough.
Paul

On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:20 AM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
>> Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg
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Re: OT PESO - Krazee

[David J Brooks]

Sorry, 1962.

Dave

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> As some one who played goal for various ice hockey teams from 1965 to
> 1973, nice shot Dave. If not for a broken face in 1973, i'd still be
> playing.,
>
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Meet Krazee...:
>>
>> 
>>
>> ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
>> of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)
>>
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>>
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Re: OT PESO - Krazee

[David J Brooks]

As some one who played goal for various ice hockey teams from 1965 to
1973, nice shot Dave. If not for a broken face in 1973, i'd still be
playing.,


Dave

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> Meet Krazee...:
>
> 
>
> ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
> of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)
>
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>
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>
> Enjoy & have at it.
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Re: Geso Barn redo

[David J Brooks]

Thanks.

To answer your question, no i did not. My only polarizer  does not fit
my 50-200, but maybe worth a try on the 16-45. Its supposed to be
rather nice again Sunday.

Dave

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> Much better, Dave. Just wondering, did you try to use a polarizer to
> push the sky some more?
> Thanks for sharing
> Ecke
>
> 2010/7/3 David J Brooks :
>> Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
>> blue skies.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=972727
>>
>> 6773 and 6771, the two on the left are the new ones.
>>
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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

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On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:20 AM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg

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Causse celeb

[Bob W]

M. Christian Avesque is the last paid shepherd on the Causse Mejean. He is
the subject of a recently-published book called Un Dernier Berger, which I
bought as a souvenir of my trip to the causse: <
http://www.amazon.fr/Un-dernier-berger-Renaud-Dengreville/dp/2812600403 >.
It's a beautiful book with superb photos which really capture the place -
worth having a look at if you ever get the chance.

I saw M. Avesque when I cycled on to the causse to visit the herd of
Przewalski's horses that they have up there, but he was talking to a group
of other tourists so I didn't want to stop and bother him a second time, and
only took this snap and one or two variants. Interesting chap though,
according to the book. Apart from an engineering course in a nearby town,
and a spell in Algeria on military service during the war there, he seems to
have been up there with his (or rather, not his) sheep all his life.

< http://www.web-options.com/Berger.jpg >

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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

[Cotty]

On 3/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>< http://www.web-options.com/Florac/ >
>
>The graffiti in one of them ('Pour qui trimes-tu?') means 'Who are you
>busting a gut for?'.
>
>Over the next day or two I'll put together a gallery of shots from the
>causse and other hill walks that I did.
>
>Hope you enjoy - comments welcome.

Bob there were half a dozen in that excellent gallery that exceeded all
expectation - simply superb. You know what's nice about this list, you
know people for many years but when you see their work get better and
better all the time, it's very inspiring - we must all feel the same.
Just fabulous work mate - well done.

The blokes on the bench is sheer poetry

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[P N Stenquist]

Thanks Bob.
On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Bob W wrote:



Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg


that's a great shot! I watched American Graffiti again on Thursday  
evening,
on French TV. I'd forgotten how good it is, and what a lot of great  
actors
are in it (and I had no idea they all speak such good French!).  
Thought

about you and your cruise shots while I was watching.

Bob



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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

[Madame RD]

Le 03/07/10 17:38, Bob W a écrit :

I have put together a gallery of snaps from Florac, including a few pictures
from some of the nearby hamlets. It's a very quiet village at this time of
year, waiting for the tourist season to begin, so not much to photograph
other than shutters!
   
still, I find  shutters  interesting because they're often different 
from one region to the other ... it seems Florac hasn't chosen between 
plain and latticed. beautiful set of pictures ...and the old lady is so 
typical !!!


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Re: Causse Mejan

[Cotty]

On 3/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>This is a 3.6 megabyte download:
>
>< http://www.web-options.com/CausseMejan.tif >
>
>Florac is a mediaeval village at its heart. What you see here are the modern
>bits on the outside. I am still sorting through the rest of the pictures in
>LR and will post a gallery in due causse...

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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> I think it is a really nice travelog...   I'm still crazed here... "no time 
> to make dessert"  - I'm not gonna elaborate...
> the few I might remove were they mine are still good information about the 
> place and are interesting as such..
> 
> I sent the geso to my friends who know France well
> 
> Larry - I don't think Bob is wanting or asking for a critique of individual 
> photos

I know.  I was just telling him how great the entire set was, with my tongue 
planted firmly in my cheek.  

I guess I spent too much time yesterday reading the set about "honest 
critiques".


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Re: OT PESO - Krazee

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 3, 2010, at 9:27 AM, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> Meet Krazee...:
> 
> 
> 
> ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
> of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)
> 
> D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200
> 
> Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder
> SB600  camera left
> SB28 camera right
> 
> Enjoy & have at it.

Not a bad shot considering the equipment limitations that you're facing.

If you had a K-x, you realize you wouldn't need to use strobes to have enough 
light to get the shot.


Seriously though, I can't find a single nit to pick.  Awesome shot.  Just for 
your own fun, or is it for publication?

If it wasn't originally, it should be.

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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

[Ann Sanfedele]

I think it is a really nice travelog...   I'm still crazed here... "no 
time to make dessert"  - I'm not gonna elaborate...
the few I might remove were they mine are still good information about 
the place and are interesting as such..


I sent the geso to my friends who know France well

Larry - I don't think Bob is wanting or asking for a critique of 
individual photos


ann


Larry Colen wrote:


On Jul 3, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Bob W wrote:

 


I have put together a gallery of snaps from Florac, including a few pictures
from some of the nearby hamlets. It's a very quiet village at this time of
year, waiting for the tourist season to begin, so not much to photograph
other than shutters! Still, easy to see why the great painters were so
attracted to the south.

< http://www.web-options.com/Florac/ >

The graffiti in one of them ('Pour qui trimes-tu?') means 'Who are you
busting a gut for?'.

Over the next day or two I'll put together a gallery of shots from the
causse and other hill walks that I did.

Hope you enjoy - comments welcome.
   



Bob, 


If you really want feedback on each shot, you really shouldn't post so many 
excellent shots at once. Sure there are a couple that I might crop differently, 
or might have been better if you'd walked past a couple hours later in the day, 
and one or two fantastic shots that in your limited time to perfectly capture a 
moment may have been sharper, but all I can say is that having the gallery any 
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GESO burner party

[Larry Colen]

It's a long story but by parking in front of someone's garage, and not being an 
asshole when he asked me to move my car, I made a new friend that invited me to 
a party he was having.  I didn't know anyone there, and it's not my normal 
crowd, but since other people were taking pictures, I pulled out the little 
storm trooper, the 50/1.4 and the 31 and had some fun taking pictures of 
interesting people having fun.

It was an interesting challenge shooting in a new environment.  I think that 
these are the best from the evening:
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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 3, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Bob W wrote:

> I have put together a gallery of snaps from Florac, including a few pictures
> from some of the nearby hamlets. It's a very quiet village at this time of
> year, waiting for the tourist season to begin, so not much to photograph
> other than shutters! Still, easy to see why the great painters were so
> attracted to the south.
> 
> < http://www.web-options.com/Florac/ >
> 
> The graffiti in one of them ('Pour qui trimes-tu?') means 'Who are you
> busting a gut for?'.
> 
> Over the next day or two I'll put together a gallery of shots from the
> causse and other hill walks that I did.
> 
> Hope you enjoy - comments welcome.

Bob, 

If you really want feedback on each shot, you really shouldn't post so many 
excellent shots at once. Sure there are a couple that I might crop differently, 
or might have been better if you'd walked past a couple hours later in the day, 
and one or two fantastic shots that in your limited time to perfectly capture a 
moment may have been sharper, but all I can say is that having the gallery any 
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-07-03 14:01, David Parsons wrote:

How many stops is 256x?


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Re: OT PESO - Krazee

[eckinator]

Boy, he needs to get something done about those eyes...
well executed portrait
thanks for sharing
ecke

2010/7/3 David Savage :
> G'day All,
>
> Meet Krazee...:
>
> 
>
> ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
> of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)
>
> D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200
>
> Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder
> SB600  camera left
> SB28 camera right
>
> Enjoy & have at it.
>
> Dave
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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

[eckinator]

http://www.web-options.com/Florac/content/_6246808_large.html - I see
a steampunk =)
http://www.web-options.com/Florac/content/_6236797_large.html - gorgeous mood
http://www.web-options.com/Florac/content/_6246824_large.html - a
deuche... I miss seeing those in the streets... and it has a Rothmans
Porsche sticker, too =)
http://www.web-options.com/Florac/content/_6236783_large.html - that
stone roof is amazing
and so on... too many for me to comment individualy at this time but i
see lots of great pics
looks like you had a good time shooting on your trip Bob
was the rest of the trip just as good?
Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/3 Bob W :
> I have put together a gallery of snaps from Florac, including a few pictures
> from some of the nearby hamlets. It's a very quiet village at this time of
> year, waiting for the tourist season to begin, so not much to photograph
> other than shutters! Still, easy to see why the great painters were so
> attracted to the south.
>
> < http://www.web-options.com/Florac/ >
>
> The graffiti in one of them ('Pour qui trimes-tu?') means 'Who are you
> busting a gut for?'.
>
> Over the next day or two I'll put together a gallery of shots from the
> causse and other hill walks that I did.
>
> Hope you enjoy - comments welcome.
>
> Bob
>
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Dario Bonazza]

In this case, I believe the IR unit usually (so to speak) seen between the 
lens and the Nocta body has been replaced by a simple barrel, in order to 
keep the register distance.

See this picture I've just uploaded:
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Re: Geso Barn redo

[eckinator]

Much better, Dave. Just wondering, did you try to use a polarizer to
push the sky some more?
Thanks for sharing
Ecke

2010/7/3 David J Brooks :
> Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
> blue skies.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=972727
>
> 6773 and 6771, the two on the left are the new ones.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Dario Bonazza]

Hmm, sure that lens comes from a Nocta IR camera. About its rear barrel, I'm 
going to ask a friend which owns a Nocta unit (camera+lens).

Later,
Dario

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Subject: Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay


Whew!  It took some googling but I finally tracked this one down.  It
looks like the lens from a Pentax Nocta from 1966, which is part-way
down this page:

http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm

Any comments, Dario?

As rare as it must be, the starting price on this auction looks
ludicrously high.Terms such as "IR focusing system" and "image
intensifier" came up in references to this lens.  It seems like that
function of the lens has gone out-of-service and has been replaced
with a simple mounting tube which looks unoriginal and most
un-Asahi-like in its style and finish.

regards, Anthony

 "Of what use is lens and light
   to those who lack in mind and sight"
  (Anon)



2010/7/3 Michel Carrère-Gée :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Asahi-NC-Takumar-3-3-300mm-Pentax-M42-/350370216253

Strange, never seen, unknow: NC (?) Takumar 1:3.3 (?) 300 mm
It has been changed, but the ring marking seems real...






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Re: OT: yayayayay! ann thinks everything is working now

[eckinator]

That is great news Ann, let us know if the problem recurs.
Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/3 Ann Sanfedele :
>
> It was either that it was really the original keyboard OR the USB connector
> I bought or the USB port needed what refreshing?
>
> cross your fingers everyone...
>
> I bought a cheap keyboard at J and R that has its own USB cable... I also
> took DOug Franklins suggestion about the low power stuff
>
> Thanks to everyone who contributed  their thoughts and great expertise...
> and took the time even to just give me moral support
> (um, no wisecracks please!)
>
> However, if it goes south again tomorrow, you will be notified LOL
>
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> ann
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Re: *ist DL?

[Adam Montoya]

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:31 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>>
>> [1] I don't have a data card. Have never had a need for one. All I know is
>> I need an SD card. I gather they come in flavors. Cost is a consideration.
>> Any recommendations?
>
> I don't think your istDl is up to the fastest cards out there, I don't even
> think it will us an SDHC card, so pretty much any card 2gb or smaller will
> do.
> It may well be that you can use an SDHC card, but make sure you know before
> buying one.
>
>

Hi there,

 I can use an 8gb SanDisk Extreme III in my *ist DL with no trouble.
Not that you'd want to use a card that large as you probably don't
want all your eggs in such a large basket, but the option is there.
Firmware version 1.03 .

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RE: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Bob W]

8

> 
> How many stops is 256x?
> 
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Brendan MacRae
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> >> From: Anthony Farr 
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 3:58:31 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay
> >>
> >> "The mounting the tube seems also an original."
> >
> > Are you sure about
> >> that?  Compare the pictures at
> >> AOHC:
> >
> > http://www.aohc.it/cameras/nocta.jpg
> > and,
> > http://www.aohc.it/images/sp40.jpg
> >
> > to
> >> the picture at the
> >> auction:
> >
> >
> http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!Bw0VCdQBGk~$(KGrHqIOKioEwPgB+i)hBMKt40,WIw~~_1
> 2.JPG
> >
> > You
> >> can see that the historic pictures show a much shorter tube
> > between the wide
> >> part of the lens and the body of the image
> > intensifier, with no obvious
> >> tapering or visible bright metal.  The
> > ebay lens doesn't have any place
> >> where an image intensifier could be
> > placed according to the old
> >> pictures.
> >
> > regards, Anthony
> >
> > The Nocta is described pretty well in Oosten's "The Ultimate Asahi
> Pentax Screw Mount Guide 1952-1977," pgs 255-256. From the three
> pictures in this book, it appears as though the eBay lens is complete
> minus the larger focusing handle. A rare unit indeed.
> >
> > The description of lens from the book:
> >
> > "The lens is a highly specialized Takumar 1:3.3/300mm for Infrared
> photography. The minimum aperture is f/22, the angle of view is 8
> degrees. It was supplied with a 256X Neutral Density filter (42mm) for
> use under daylight conditions. The actual front of the lens measures
> 300/3.3 = 91mm in diameter of which only the central part is used in
> daylight." - pg 255.
> >
> > -Brendan
> >
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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Jos from Holland]

John,  maybe it tells the flash digitally through the communication line 
that it has to use the trailling edge of the triggerpuls of the camera  
for triggering the flash (that would be the same principle as on the Z-1)


If it works like that, your adapter board will be very simple :-)

Greetz, Jos

John Sessoms wrote:
It would be useful to have the camera trigger the hot-shoe/PC on the 
rear curtain so I could use trailing curtain sync with pocket wizard 
type radio slaves.


Obviously, if the AF-540FGZ can do trailing curtain sync when mounted 
on the shoe, some information is being communicated through one of the 
contacts that tells the flash when the trailing curtain begins to 
close. How is the information formatted and what connector does it 
come through? If I knew that, I might be able to bread-board my own 
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[David Parsons]

How many stops is 256x?

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Brendan MacRae
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
>> From: Anthony Farr 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 3:58:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay
>>
>> "The mounting the tube seems also an original."
>
> Are you sure about
>> that?  Compare the pictures at
>> AOHC:
>
> http://www.aohc.it/cameras/nocta.jpg
> and,
> http://www.aohc.it/images/sp40.jpg
>
> to
>> the picture at the
>> auction:
>
> http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!Bw0VCdQBGk~$(KGrHqIOKioEwPgB+i)hBMKt40,WIw~~_12.JPG
>
> You
>> can see that the historic pictures show a much shorter tube
> between the wide
>> part of the lens and the body of the image
> intensifier, with no obvious
>> tapering or visible bright metal.  The
> ebay lens doesn't have any place
>> where an image intensifier could be
> placed according to the old
>> pictures.
>
> regards, Anthony
>
> The Nocta is described pretty well in Oosten's "The Ultimate Asahi Pentax 
> Screw Mount Guide 1952-1977," pgs 255-256. From the three pictures in this 
> book, it appears as though the eBay lens is complete minus the larger 
> focusing handle. A rare unit indeed.
>
> The description of lens from the book:
>
> "The lens is a highly specialized Takumar 1:3.3/300mm for Infrared 
> photography. The minimum aperture is f/22, the angle of view is 8 degrees. It 
> was supplied with a 256X Neutral Density filter (42mm) for use under daylight 
> conditions. The actual front of the lens measures 300/3.3 = 91mm in diameter 
> of which only the central part is used in daylight." - pg 255.
>
> -Brendan
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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks for letting me know, Doug.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

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Christine Aguila wrote:
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heard from her either, though I have sent word to her.  Cheers, Christine





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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Brendan MacRae]

Here's my K10D/540 combo work with trailing curtain:

http://www.primelensphoto.com/trailing_curtain/index.html

-Brendan



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> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 8:20:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync
> 
> Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 
> flash.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg
On Jul 3, 
> 2010, at 11:08 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 
> 1:56 AM, Bob W <> href="mailto:p...@web-options.com";>p...@web-options.com> 
> wrote:
>>> All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to 
> enable
>>> second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. 
> IIRC, both my
>>> Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the 
> same.
>>> 
>>> The algorithm is very simple: the flash 
> is triggered about 300ms
>>> before the second curtain is released. 
> So it obviously works best with
>>> exposure times of a half second 
> or longer, but then that's when I'd
>>> use second curtain sync 
> anyway.
>>> 
>> 
>> I've found it most effective 
> for my taste at 1/15th second, generally when
>> there's already quite 
> a lot of ambient light in the scene. These pictures
>> from midsummer a 
> few years ago are my most successful and (I think)
>> effective 
> efforts, shot at 1/15th. All shot with an Oly E-1 and Oly flash of
>> 
> some sort.
>> 
>> Start here, and click through about 8 
> snaps:
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the photos ... good stuff!
> 
> The trigger lead 
> time is shorter than I wrote. A 125 second flash burn
> is 8 ms and that's 
> a long burn; they probably do trigger with 30 ms
> lead, not 300. 
> :-)
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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks for letting me know, Boris.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:28 PM
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I am still waiting...

Boris

On 7/2/2010 8:54 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

[Boris Liberman]

I am still waiting...

Boris

On 7/2/2010 8:54 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

If you haven't heard from Sue, could you let me know either on list or
off list, doesn't matter. I'd like to know. Just an FYI, I haven't heard
from her either, though I have sent word to her. Cheers, Christine





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Re: OT PESO - Krazee

[Mark Roberts]

David Savage wrote:

>G'day All,
>
>Meet Krazee...:
>
>
>
>...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
>of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)

Great portrait Dave.
And nice to hear from you again.

(BTW: I'm a fellow "defector" having gone full-frame with a Sony A850
- though I shill use my Pentax kit a lot)


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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks for letting me know, Paul.  Cheers, Christine


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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:37 AM
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Nothing yet

-Original Message-

From: Christine  Aguila 
Sent: Jul 2, 2010 12:54 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

If you haven't heard from Sue, could you let me know either on list or off
list, doesn't matter.  I'd like to know.  Just an FYI, I haven't heard 
from

her either, though I have sent word to her.  Cheers, Christine



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OT: yayayayay! ann thinks everything is working now

[Ann Sanfedele]

It was either that it was really the original keyboard OR the USB 
connector I bought or the USB port needed what refreshing?


cross your fingers everyone...

I bought a cheap keyboard at J and R that has its own USB cable... I also
took DOug Franklins suggestion about the low power stuff

Thanks to everyone who contributed  their thoughts and great 
expertise... and took the time even to just give me moral support

(um, no wisecracks please!)

However, if it goes south again tomorrow, you will be notified LOL

xo,
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Brendan MacRae]

- Original Message 
> From: Anthony Farr 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 3:58:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay
> 
> "The mounting the tube seems also an original."

Are you sure about 
> that?  Compare the pictures at 
> AOHC:

http://www.aohc.it/cameras/nocta.jpg
and,
http://www.aohc.it/images/sp40.jpg

to 
> the picture at the 
> auction:

http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!Bw0VCdQBGk~$(KGrHqIOKioEwPgB+i)hBMKt40,WIw~~_12.JPG

You 
> can see that the historic pictures show a much shorter tube
between the wide 
> part of the lens and the body of the image
intensifier, with no obvious 
> tapering or visible bright metal.  The
ebay lens doesn't have any place 
> where an image intensifier could be
placed according to the old 
> pictures.

regards, Anthony

The Nocta is described pretty well in Oosten's "The Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw 
Mount Guide 1952-1977," pgs 255-256. From the three pictures in this book, it 
appears as though the eBay lens is complete minus the larger focusing handle. A 
rare unit indeed.

The description of lens from the book:

"The lens is a highly specialized Takumar 1:3.3/300mm for Infrared photography. 
The minimum aperture is f/22, the angle of view is 8 degrees. It was supplied 
with a 256X Neutral Density filter (42mm) for use under daylight conditions. 
The actual front of the lens measures 300/3.3 = 91mm in diameter of which only 
the central part is used in daylight." - pg 255.

-Brendan


  

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OT PESO - Krazee

[David Savage]

G'day All,

Meet Krazee...:



...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)

D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200

Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox over my right shoulder
SB600  camera left
SB28 camera right

Enjoy & have at it.

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Re: PESO - Swans on the Wing

[David J Brooks]

Good shot.

Sometimes the Trumpeter Swans at the farm will get up and fly and they
do make a lot of noise.

Dave

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Didn't get many good photos from today's walk down at the lake (still
> working on a few, but I don't think they'll make the cut), but this
> one's not bad:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
>
> I never realized that big old swans made so much noise when they fly;
> you can hear them coming from a mile away.  Taken with *istD/Tokina
> f2.8 80-200 manual focus.  I'm having lots of problems with the manual
> focus - by the time I'm focused and get the exposure (no "A" setting,
> so I'm on M with the green button), my subject inevitably moves on -
> at least the birds do.
>
> Anyway, hope you like this one.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Swans on the Wing

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Unusual for me to see them flying, very elegant compared to the geese.
Most around here are wing clipped to keep them on guard duty against
the Canada Geese.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Didn't get many good photos from today's walk down at the lake (still
> working on a few, but I don't think they'll make the cut), but this
> one's not bad:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
>
> I never realized that big old swans made so much noise when they fly;
> you can hear them coming from a mile away.  Taken with *istD/Tokina
> f2.8 80-200 manual focus.  I'm having lots of problems with the manual
> focus - by the time I'm focused and get the exposure (no "A" setting,
> so I'm on M with the green button), my subject inevitably moves on -
> at least the birds do.
>
> Anyway, hope you like this one.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO - Swans on the Wing

[Jack Davis]

I like it too, Frank. Well done focus and exposure, along with an specially 
well chosen composition!

Jack

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> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Swans on the Wing
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 8:30 AM
> Didn't get many good photos from
> today's walk down at the lake (still
> working on a few, but I don't think they'll make the cut),
> but this
> one's not bad:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
> 
> I never realized that big old swans made so much noise when
> they fly;
> you can hear them coming from a mile away.  Taken with
> *istD/Tokina
> f2.8 80-200 manual focus.  I'm having lots of problems
> with the manual
> focus - by the time I'm focused and get the exposure (no
> "A" setting,
> so I'm on M with the green button), my subject inevitably
> moves on -
> at least the birds do.
> 
> Anyway, hope you like this one.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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RE: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Bob W]

> 
> Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg

that's a great shot! I watched American Graffiti again on Thursday evening,
on French TV. I'd forgotten how good it is, and what a lot of great actors
are in it (and I had no idea they all speak such good French!). Thought
about you and your cruise shots while I was watching.

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Re: PESO - Swans on the Wing

[P N Stenquist]

Nice shot. Very tranquil.

You're right about the noise. Several swans took off and landed in  
front of Grace and me the other day when we were fishing. Quite a  
spectacle.

Paul

On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Didn't get many good photos from today's walk down at the lake (still
working on a few, but I don't think they'll make the cut), but this
one's not bad:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html

I never realized that big old swans made so much noise when they fly;
you can hear them coming from a mile away.  Taken with *istD/Tokina
f2.8 80-200 manual focus.  I'm having lots of problems with the manual
focus - by the time I'm focused and get the exposure (no "A" setting,
so I'm on M with the green button), my subject inevitably moves on -
at least the birds do.

Anyway, hope you like this one.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Sun-drenched shutters

[Bob W]

I have put together a gallery of snaps from Florac, including a few pictures
from some of the nearby hamlets. It's a very quiet village at this time of
year, waiting for the tourist season to begin, so not much to photograph
other than shutters! Still, easy to see why the great painters were so
attracted to the south.

< http://www.web-options.com/Florac/ >

The graffiti in one of them ('Pour qui trimes-tu?') means 'Who are you
busting a gut for?'.

Over the next day or two I'll put together a gallery of shots from the
causse and other hill walks that I did.

Hope you enjoy - comments welcome.

Bob


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PESO - Swans on the Wing

[frank theriault]

Didn't get many good photos from today's walk down at the lake (still
working on a few, but I don't think they'll make the cut), but this
one's not bad:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html

I never realized that big old swans made so much noise when they fly;
you can hear them coming from a mile away.  Taken with *istD/Tokina
f2.8 80-200 manual focus.  I'm having lots of problems with the manual
focus - by the time I'm focused and get the exposure (no "A" setting,
so I'm on M with the green button), my subject inevitably moves on -
at least the birds do.

Anyway, hope you like this one.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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RE: Causse Mejan

[Bob W]

[...]
> >
> > This is a 3.6 megabyte download:
> >
> > < http://www.web-options.com/CausseMejan.tif >
> >
> > Florac is a mediaeval village at its heart. What you see here are the
> modern
> > bits on the outside. I am still sorting through the rest of the
> pictures in
> > LR and will post a gallery in due causse...
> >
> > Bob
> 
> I'd go ahead and crop all that black off the bottom and convert it to
> JPEG so it would load faster.
> 

I'll give that a go when I start working on the other panos.

Bob


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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[P N Stenquist]

Trailing curtain synch with K10D and FA 540 flash.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6315560&size=lg
On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Bob W  wrote:

All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable
second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my
Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same.

The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms
before the second curtain is released. So it obviously works best  
with

exposure times of a half second or longer, but then that's when I'd
use second curtain sync anyway.



I've found it most effective for my taste at 1/15th second,  
generally when
there's already quite a lot of ambient light in the scene. These  
pictures

from midsummer a few years ago are my most successful and (I think)
effective efforts, shot at 1/15th. All shot with an Oly E-1 and Oly  
flash of

some sort.

Start here, and click through about 8 snaps:



Thanks for the photos ... good stuff!

The trigger lead time is shorter than I wrote. A 125 second flash burn
is 8 ms and that's a long burn; they probably do trigger with 30 ms
lead, not 300. :-)

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable
>> second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my
>> Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same.
>>
>> The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms
>> before the second curtain is released. So it obviously works best with
>> exposure times of a half second or longer, but then that's when I'd
>> use second curtain sync anyway.
>>
>
> I've found it most effective for my taste at 1/15th second, generally when
> there's already quite a lot of ambient light in the scene. These pictures
> from midsummer a few years ago are my most successful and (I think)
> effective efforts, shot at 1/15th. All shot with an Oly E-1 and Oly flash of
> some sort.
>
> Start here, and click through about 8 snaps:
> 

Thanks for the photos ... good stuff!

The trigger lead time is shorter than I wrote. A 125 second flash burn
is 8 ms and that's a long burn; they probably do trigger with 30 ms
lead, not 300. :-)

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RE: Causse Mejan

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"

During my holiday in France I took a number of pictures with a view to
stitching them into panoramas, it being a big country over there. Here's my
first attempt at one, using Hugin. It shows the Causse Mejan towering over
Florac, the village I stayed in. 


The village is at the crossroads of several rivers: the Tarn, Tarnon,
Mimente, Pecher, possibly others - there are a lot of them! A 'causse' is a
limestone plateau, like The Lost World. There are several causses separated
by deep gorges such as the Gorge du Tarn. Florac is at about 500m altitude.
The Causse Mejan ranges from about 800m to 1240m at it's highest peak. What
you see here goes up to about 1000m. I can't wait to see the Himalayas!

This is a 3.6 megabyte download:

< http://www.web-options.com/CausseMejan.tif >

Florac is a mediaeval village at its heart. What you see here are the modern
bits on the outside. I am still sorting through the rest of the pictures in
LR and will post a gallery in due causse...

Bob


I'd go ahead and crop all that black off the bottom and convert it to 
JPEG so it would load faster.


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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[John Sessoms]

From: mike wilson

mike wilson wrote:


> John Sessoms wrote:
> 
>> The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to 
>> trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the 
>> hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated 
>> "flash" is installed?

>>
>> E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar 285HV? Dedicated 
>> flash like the AF-540FGZ has its own circuitry to talk to the camera 
>> and can be set to trailing curtain sync.

>>
>> Is this something they could do with a firmware update?
> 
> 
> Non-dedicated flashes fire when they are told to.  It doesn't mstter 
> whether that is at the beginning, the end or halfway through exposure. 
> On the face of it, some coding telling the camera to fire any connected 
> flash at the end of exposure would be a comparatively simple task.  So 
> simple that I must go and see if it will work already


OK.  With KX and AF280T, it's no go.  Trailing curtain seems to be a 
PTTL-only mode, as the RTF preflashes.  Some illogicality there.. 
There is no trailing curtain mode on the DL2.


> 


The non-dedicated flash fires when the main hot-shoe contact triggers. 
I'm asking how the camera controls when that main hot-shoe contact 
triggers. Could a camera software change make it trigger the main 
hot-shoe/PC contact on the trailing curtain when the on-board flash is 
set to trailing curtain? Or would it require physical changes to the 
wiring inside the camera?


The K10 and the K20 allow you to set the on-board flash to 
trailing-curtain. The AF-500 (which worked with the *ist-D) and the 
AF-540FGZ have trailing curtain sync built into the flash.


On the K10 and the K20, with the on-board flash set to trailing curtain, 
the main hot-shoe pin triggers on the front curtain. Same for the K20's 
PC sync.


Is this main pin trigger on front curtain hard-wired into the camera, or 
is this something that could be changed by a firm-ware update?




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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[John Sessoms]

From: paul stenquist

On Jul 2, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote:


> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

>> The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing
>> curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe also
>> fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated "flash" is installed?
> 
> Very difficult unless certain assumptions about burn time are made,

> which won't be accurate. You need to fire the flash at just about
> exactly the burn time before the shutter closes for trailing curtain
> to work corectly. Most speedlights have a roughly 1ms full-power burn,
> but at low power levels it can be an order of magnitude shorter as
> output is normally controlled by burn duration rather than intensity.
> 
> Olympus did allow this on some OM models, but it only worked because

> of the low sync speed of the camera's (1/60) so that even if the flash
> burn time was much shorter than the assumed ~1ms you don't get much
> exposure after the burn ends. This doesn't work so well with today's
> high sync speeds.
> 

Of course you can shoot trailing curtain synch at low shutter speeds on either 
the K10 or the K20. I get good results shooting trailing synch on the K10, K20 
and K7 at 1/8th or 1/15th.
Paul


But you can only do so with the on-board flash or a dedicated Pentax 
flash like the AF-540FGZ.


The regular hot-shoe contact (or the PC contact on the K20) ONLY sync 
with the front curtain. The trailing curtain sync does not work with the 
AF-540FGZ in wireless mode, you have to use the Hot-shoe Adapter F and 
F5P cable to get it use trailing curtain sync off camera.


I was wondering whether the main contact tripping only on the front 
curtain is hard-wired into the cameras or is it something Pentax could 
change in the firm-ware? Could Pentax tell the camera when the on-board 
flash mode is set for trailing curtain, trip the hot-shoe/PC contact 
with the trailing curtain as well, or would it require a physical change 
to the wiring inside the camera?


It would be useful to have the camera trigger the hot-shoe/PC on the 
rear curtain so I could use trailing curtain sync with pocket wizard 
type radio slaves.


Obviously, if the AF-540FGZ can do trailing curtain sync when mounted on 
the shoe, some information is being communicated through one of the 
contacts that tells the flash when the trailing curtain begins to close.


How is the information formatted and what connector does it come 
through? If I knew that, I might be able to bread-board my own adapter.



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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

[Paul Sorenson]

Nothing yet

-Original Message-
>From: Christine  Aguila 
>Sent: Jul 2, 2010 12:54 PM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?
>
>If you haven't heard from Sue, could you let me know either on list or off 
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>her either, though I have sent word to her.  Cheers, Christine 
>
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Geso Barn redo

[David J Brooks]

Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
blue skies.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=972727

6773 and 6771, the two on the left are the new ones.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

[David J Brooks]

You forgot more beer.

Our town has an annual strawberry festival that kicks off July 1, with
a BBQ and fireworks, then the downtown is closed for Saturday for
street fair, sales etc. Lots of rides for the kids.

Pretty well attended, and its free.

I'll be biking down later today, look around, then beer.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> to all our listers north of the (US) border.  What goes on for Canada
> Day?  (aside from the beer).
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Causse Mejan

[Bob W]

During my holiday in France I took a number of pictures with a view to
stitching them into panoramas, it being a big country over there. Here's my
first attempt at one, using Hugin. It shows the Causse Mejan towering over
Florac, the village I stayed in. 

The village is at the crossroads of several rivers: the Tarn, Tarnon,
Mimente, Pecher, possibly others - there are a lot of them! A 'causse' is a
limestone plateau, like The Lost World. There are several causses separated
by deep gorges such as the Gorge du Tarn. Florac is at about 500m altitude.
The Causse Mejan ranges from about 800m to 1240m at it's highest peak. What
you see here goes up to about 1000m. I can't wait to see the Himalayas!

This is a 3.6 megabyte download:

< http://www.web-options.com/CausseMejan.tif >

Florac is a mediaeval village at its heart. What you see here are the modern
bits on the outside. I am still sorting through the rest of the pictures in
LR and will post a gallery in due causse...

Bob


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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Anthony Farr]

"The mounting the tube seems also an original."

Are you sure about that?  Compare the pictures at AOHC:

http://www.aohc.it/cameras/nocta.jpg
and,
http://www.aohc.it/images/sp40.jpg

to the picture at the auction:

http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!Bw0VCdQBGk~$(KGrHqIOKioEwPgB+i)hBMKt40,WIw~~_12.JPG

You can see that the historic pictures show a much shorter tube
between the wide part of the lens and the body of the image
intensifier, with no obvious tapering or visible bright metal.  The
ebay lens doesn't have any place where an image intensifier could be
placed according to the old pictures.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)



2010/7/3 Michel Carrère-Gée :
>  Le 03/07/2010 10:30, Anthony Farr a écrit :
>>
>> Whew!  It took some googling but I finally tracked this one down.  It
>> looks like the lens from a Pentax Nocta from 1966, which is part-way
>> down this page:
>>
>> http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm
>>
>> Any comments, Dario?
>>
>> As rare as it must be, the starting price on this auction looks
>> ludicrously high.    Terms such as "IR focusing system" and "image
>> intensifier" came up in references to this lens.  It seems like that
>> function of the lens has gone out-of-service and has been replaced
>> with a simple mounting tube which looks unoriginal and most
>> un-Asahi-like in its style and finish.
>
> ...
> I reread the "Spotmatic" No. 40 (April 2004): You're right, it's a 300mm
> 3.3.
> The mounting the tube seems also an original.
>
> Michel
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Re: PESO ISS flyby

[Cotty]

What I found amazing about that website is the detail in calculating fly-
by  timings and locations. Not being in north America I used the drop
down menu to select the United Kingdom, thinking that it might give me
London or something, but then it allowed me to select Oxfordshire, and I
damn near fell off my chair when the next drop down had my village of
Alvescot ! 9 or of 10 there for detailing. Missed the full 10/10 by not
having  and ...

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Re: OT: cycle trip

[Subash]

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> good luck, and enjoy - I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip. I
> tried cycling up the Causse Mejan on Tuesday - a 500m climb in 1km. Couldn't
> do it. Best of luck with the Himalayas!

thanks Bob (and Bruce too). apart from the cycling, i am just so
looking forward to being on the road, in that vast emptiness so to
speak. am not too worried about killer inclines. if i can't, i'll get
down and push it... :)

another half an hour at work and i am off.. :)

regards, subash

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OT new and improved Mk II, now with "optical quality"

[eckinator]

from the light craft workshop website, maker of the adjustable damping
Fader ND filter

"The modified Fader ND, Fader ND mark II is launched! Enhanced with
optical quality, the Fader ND mark II has increased the image
resolution at tele focal length (70mm or above on 135 format camera).
This make us become more outstanding when compared with those
imitation."

Does this mean the first generation didn't have optical quality?
Beware. All your darkness are belong to us.

If you like this kind of stuff go have a look at www.engrish.com

Cheers
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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

[eckinator]

2010/7/3 frank theriault :
>
> I don't think we can really and truly call ourselves an independent
> nation as long as that goes on, and I find it humiliating.

Why? What's the intrinsic value of being ruled by A over being ruled
by B? Where is the gain in individual liberty, seeing that you're
personally offended?
Cheers
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Re: OT help with computer stuff desperate annsan

[eckinator]

Hi Ann
comments interspersed

> odd was that there are two icons one after the other that say USB root Hub.
>  Shouldn't there just be one?

no there is typically one per approx. two physical USB ports, max
four. also when you have ports on the front and back they will be
managed by different root hubs as a rule. they're really just little
chips on your mainboard. this bit of info you can safely ignore =)

> I'll call anyone that could be of  help (In the USA -or , very briefly in
> Canada ) I don't have a way to call anywhere else.

if all else fails i'd call you, I'd rather be last in the chain though
since calling from Germany isn't exactly free

please right-click the my computer icon, click properties, go to the
tab hardware and open device manager. expand (i think in english it
is) input devices, right-click the keyboard and choose
remove/uninstall (again dunno the proper translatíon, my windoze is in
German), do the same with all usb root hubs all the way down the tree.
then, reboot. this is probably what was done before, it forces the
computer to re-identify and reregister the usb subsystem and the
keyboard.

also if you have someone to do this with you - and i apologize for not
thinking of doing that any sooner - you can open a free and ad-free
support case on www.protonic.com - they are a very helpful community
even though the number of techs has gone down a bit lately. i used to
be in QM there and you can rest assured that every answer you get has
been reviewed by at least one other tech.

also, about your attempts to let me take over your computer, maybe you
just came too late and my computer was already off? we can try again
if you like later in the day

cheers
ecke

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Jos from Holland]

Last sentence should be read as: I donot know if my K20 has the same 
info in the _flash trigger pulse_.


Jos from Holland wrote:

Hi John,
I think it could be done in _software_ to make it work for any flash, 
but it would require a bit complicated menu to give the camera the 
required information about P-TLL or "center contact only" or expected 
burn time.
In the Z-1 time I measured burntime of several flashes at hand, they 
all were much faster than the 1ms mentioned by Adam. It requires 
additional measures in the design to increase the burntime, I have 
seen that some Metz designs have that.


It could also be in _Hardware_:
In the past I measured the trigger pulse  of my (P)Z-1 (Pentax hi end 
35mm camera).
The trailing edge of the trigger pulse was the right timing 
information for the rear curtain sync.

So the pulse width of the triggerpulse changed with shutterspeed.
And on the flash the decission could be for first or second curtain sync.
I made even a small interface circuit to get rear curtain sync with 
non dedicated flashes.
I donot know if my K20 has the same info in the rear sync. I think it 
would not harm other use if it was there.

When I'll be retired, I might find time to measure this.
Groeten, Jos


John Sessoms wrote:
The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to 
trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the 
hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated 
"flash" is installed?


E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar 285HV? Dedicated 
flash like the AF-540FGZ has its own circuitry to talk to the camera 
and can be set to trailing curtain sync.


Is this something they could do with a firmware update?

Or is it something that would require radical hardware revision?

For that matter what do the dedicated pins on the Pentax shoe tell 
the flash? I know what the big one in the center does, and it's 
obvious which one is ground.






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RE: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in, the wrong place?

[Bob W]

> > > > I think it used to happen.  Cecil Adams / Straight Dope, Source
> Of
> > > All
> > > > That Is Truthful, has some examples where mapmakers intentionally
> > put
> > > > false streets etc into their maps.
> > > >
> > >
> > > A buddy of mine was, for a while, a cartographer in Australia.
> > > Apparently he put his name on some out of the way speck of nowhere
> > one
> > > time.
> > >
> > > William Robb
> > >
> >
> > wasn't called Sydney, by any chance?
> >
> 
> Welcome back Bob...
> 

Thanks. Now I just have to recover from my holiday.




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RE: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in, the wrong place?

[Chris Mitchell]

Bob W wrote:
> Sent: 03 July 2010 01:18
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: OT: so how do you tell Google their maps have a town in,
> the wrong place?
> 
> >
> > > I think it used to happen.  Cecil Adams / Straight Dope, Source Of
> > All
> > > That Is Truthful, has some examples where mapmakers intentionally
> put
> > > false streets etc into their maps.
> > >
> >
> > A buddy of mine was, for a while, a cartographer in Australia.
> > Apparently he put his name on some out of the way speck of nowhere
> one
> > time.
> >
> > William Robb
> >
> 
> wasn't called Sydney, by any chance?
> 

Welcome back Bob...



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RE: OT: cycle trip

[Bob W]

good luck, and enjoy - I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip. I
tried cycling up the Causse Mejan on Tuesday - a 500m climb in 1km. Couldn't
do it. Best of luck with the Himalayas!

Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Subash
> Sent: 03 July 2010 02:07
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: OT: cycle trip
> 
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:02:37 +0200
> eckinator  wrote:
> 
> > good luck subash and enjoy your trip
> 
> thanks Ecke for the wishes. and Paul, Stan, Bob and Evan too. the good
> news for me is that i have found the means to take the kx.
> 
> regards, subash
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

 Le 03/07/2010 10:30, Anthony Farr a écrit :


Whew!  It took some googling but I finally tracked this one down.  It
looks like the lens from a Pentax Nocta from 1966, which is part-way
down this page:

http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm

Any comments, Dario?

As rare as it must be, the starting price on this auction looks
ludicrously high.Terms such as "IR focusing system" and "image
intensifier" came up in references to this lens.  It seems like that
function of the lens has gone out-of-service and has been replaced
with a simple mounting tube which looks unoriginal and most
un-Asahi-like in its style and finish.

...
I reread the "Spotmatic" No. 40 (April 2004): You're right, it's a 300mm 
3.3.

The mounting the tube seems also an original.

Michel




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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Jos from Holland]

Hi John,
I think it could be done in _software_ to make it work for any flash, 
but it would require a bit complicated menu to give the camera the 
required information about P-TLL or "center contact only" or expected 
burn time.
In the Z-1 time I measured burntime of several flashes at hand, they all 
were much faster than the 1ms mentioned by Adam. It requires additional 
measures in the design to increase the burntime, I have seen that some 
Metz designs have that.


It could also be in _Hardware_:
In the past I measured the trigger pulse  of my (P)Z-1 (Pentax hi end 
35mm camera).
The trailing edge of the trigger pulse was the right timing information 
for the rear curtain sync.

So the pulse width of the triggerpulse changed with shutterspeed.
And on the flash the decission could be for first or second curtain sync.
I made even a small interface circuit to get rear curtain sync with non 
dedicated flashes.
I donot know if my K20 has the same info in the rear sync. I think it 
would not harm other use if it was there.

When I'll be retired, I might find time to measure this.
Groeten, Jos


John Sessoms wrote:
The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to 
trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the 
hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated 
"flash" is installed?


E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar 285HV? Dedicated 
flash like the AF-540FGZ has its own circuitry to talk to the camera 
and can be set to trailing curtain sync.


Is this something they could do with a firmware update?

Or is it something that would require radical hardware revision?

For that matter what do the dedicated pins on the Pentax shoe tell the 
flash? I know what the big one in the center does, and it's obvious 
which one is ground.




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RE: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[Bob W]

> All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable
> second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my
> Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same.
> 
> The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms
> before the second curtain is released. So it obviously works best with
> exposure times of a half second or longer, but then that's when I'd
> use second curtain sync anyway.
> 

I've found it most effective for my taste at 1/15th second, generally when
there's already quite a lot of ambient light in the scene. These pictures
from midsummer a few years ago are my most successful and (I think)
effective efforts, shot at 1/15th. All shot with an Oly E-1 and Oly flash of
some sort.

Start here, and click through about 8 snaps:




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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Anthony Farr]

Whew!  It took some googling but I finally tracked this one down.  It
looks like the lens from a Pentax Nocta from 1966, which is part-way
down this page:

http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm

Any comments, Dario?

As rare as it must be, the starting price on this auction looks
ludicrously high.Terms such as "IR focusing system" and "image
intensifier" came up in references to this lens.  It seems like that
function of the lens has gone out-of-service and has been replaced
with a simple mounting tube which looks unoriginal and most
un-Asahi-like in its style and finish.

regards, Anthony

   "Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)



2010/7/3 Michel Carrère-Gée :
>  http://cgi.ebay.com/Asahi-NC-Takumar-3-3-300mm-Pentax-M42-/350370216253
>
> Strange, never seen, unknow: NC (?) Takumar 1:3.3 (?) 300 mm
> It has been changed, but the ring marking seems real...
>
>

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Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

 http://cgi.ebay.com/Asahi-NC-Takumar-3-3-300mm-Pentax-M42-/350370216253

Strange, never seen, unknow: NC (?) Takumar 1:3.3 (?) 300 mm
It has been changed, but the ring marking seems real...



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Re: OT help with computer stuff desperate annsan

[Eric Featherstone]

On 3 July 2010 01:22, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Paul Stenquest mentioned something about getting a USB "card" but I'm not
> understanding
> that...

Paul means a USB PCI card like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=usb%20pci%20low%20profile&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100

Note you'll need a low profile one for a Dell C521. If the one PCI
slot already has a card in it there are two PCI-e slots so you get
this instead (but more expensive):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=usb%20pcie%20low%20profile&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100

You wouldn't need any tools/screwdrivers to put the card in either,
it's all plastic clips.

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[mike wilson]

mike wilson wrote:


John Sessoms wrote:

The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to 
trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the 
hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated 
"flash" is installed?


E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar 285HV? Dedicated 
flash like the AF-540FGZ has its own circuitry to talk to the camera 
and can be set to trailing curtain sync.


Is this something they could do with a firmware update?



Non-dedicated flashes fire when they are told to.  It doesn't mstter 
whether that is at the beginning, the end or halfway through exposure. 
On the face of it, some coding telling the camera to fire any connected 
flash at the end of exposure would be a comparatively simple task.  So 
simple that I must go and see if it will work already


OK.  With KX and AF280T, it's no go.  Trailing curtain seems to be a 
PTTL-only mode, as the RTF preflashes.  Some illogicality there.. 
There is no trailing curtain mode on the DL2.






Or is it something that would require radical hardware revision?

For that matter what do the dedicated pins on the Pentax shoe tell the 
flash? I know what the big one in the center does, and it's obvious 
which one is ground.



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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

[mike wilson]

John Sessoms wrote:
The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to trailing 
curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make the hot-shoe 
also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated "flash" is 
installed?


E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar 285HV? Dedicated 
flash like the AF-540FGZ has its own circuitry to talk to the camera and 
can be set to trailing curtain sync.


Is this something they could do with a firmware update?


Non-dedicated flashes fire when they are told to.  It doesn't mstter 
whether that is at the beginning, the end or halfway through exposure. 
On the face of it, some coding telling the camera to fire any connected 
flash at the end of exposure would be a comparatively simple task.  So 
simple that I must go and see if it will work already




Or is it something that would require radical hardware revision?

For that matter what do the dedicated pins on the Pentax shoe tell the 
flash? I know what the big one in the center does, and it's obvious 
which one is ground.


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