Re: GESO - Illinois Road Trip - Galena

[Boris Liberman]

On 1/5/2011 10:11 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Yes, I do like taking pictures of people - there just weren't that many
around in Galena! I wanted to give the feeling of a deserted town - which is
what it is until the height of the tourist season, when you can't move for
people.

Chris


Well, sans the "until the height of the tourist season" part you've done 
excellent job, Chris.


Boris

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Re: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[Boris Liberman]

Are you being sarcastic or sincere, Cotty?

On 1/5/2011 9:32 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 5/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:


It is unfortunately true, that the chasm between two great countries on
this plant is still very deep.


We should look to cultivate an atmosphere of friendship.






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Re: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[Boris Liberman]

It is probably not paranoia, but it surely left its mark. 20 mln is an 
official figure. It stands to reason that the actual figure may be 
substantially more. Saying that every family (literally) was affected by 
the war (death in the battlefield, loss to hunger, wound, etc) is 
probably quite correct.


Boris


On 1/5/2011 5:39 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

All you need to understand Russia's 'paranoia' is the death toll by
country for WWII.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Oh... Hmmm... I thought you were actually talking /directly/ to me. My bad.
Sorry.

Russia is a big country and as such it participated in great many wars. The
culture of Motherland and defense thereof is very strong in Russia or at
least so it was when I was being brought up. To the outsider indeed Russian
people may come across as paranoid, but in fact they are not, as you
probably observed yourself during your visit.

It is unfortunately true, that the chasm between two great countries on this
plant is still very deep.

/sigh/

Boris


On 1/5/2011 5:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Sorry Boris.  I did not make that comment for your benefit, or to
correct you.  It was something I didn't realize until we visited
Russia several years ago, and I think it is an important insight into
the deep significance that WW II has for Russians.

Many of us Americans view the Russians as paranoid, mostly because we
fail to recognize the many times that Russia has been invaded from
Western Europe (not to ignore the more successful and longer-lasting
invasion from the East).

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Re: My big BOO to Pentax Repair Customer Service!

[Boris Liberman]

Ken, there is no such thing as Pentax Israel company. Some other local 
company was given the rights of official re-seller and so on. There are 
others as official, but this one is the biggest. They sell many brands 
including Pentax and they offer post-sale services.


Trust me, it would have made no sense asking for the supervisor in this 
case. This is /normal/ behavior in my country.


/deep sigh/

Boris


On 1/5/2011 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Boris, was that conversation between you and Pentax or an importer?

I would have asked to speak to the clerks supervisor.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" 

Subject: Re: My big BOO to Pentax Repair Customer Service!



Igor, I sincerely and most respectfully think that you overestimate or
overrate the regular clerks with whom you have to deal at Pentax
Services (whatever specific organization is).


Pentax USA, do you hear me?
Are you a serious company who is serious about its CS or just a bunch
of opportunists reselling products from Pentax-Japan?


My uneducated guess would be 2/3 of the latter and at most 1/3 of the
former.

Here is a brief transcript of my process of obtaining the price of K-5
in Israel.

_Day A_
Them: Hello
Me: Hello, whom am I speaking with?
Them: My name is X
Me: I'd like to know the price of new Pentax camera - the K-5
Them: Wait a moment
/some noise/
Them: Thank you for your wait. I don't have the price right now. Let
me write your phone number and we'll return to you shortly.
Me: Here is the number.
/end of conversation/

_A week later!_
Them: Hello
Me: Hello, who's on the line?
Them: My name is Y
Me: I'd like to talk to X, please
Them: They are not available at the moment, what can I do for you?
Me: I called you a week ago in order to get a quote on Pentax K-5, the
new camera. Are there any news?
Them: I am sorry, I cannot help you, but I can pass a message to X.
Please give me your phone number.
Me: Here is the number. But can you please make it happen in less than
a week?
Them: Oh, sure, she'll call you later today or in the worst case
tomorrow.
/end of conversation/

_Yet another week later!!_
Them: Hello
Me: Hello, with whom do I have an honor of speaking?
Them: My name is X, what can I do for you?
Me: Oh! Hello there, don't you remember I called you two weeks ago
about Pentax K-5?
Them: Hmmm Oh, may be...
Me: Well, so do you have an answer for me? I kind of need a price to
buy it from you.
Them: Sorry, but I don't. I can offer you another camera, just as good
- K-7, we have few left at very attractive price point.
Me: No, thank you - I have one already and want to upgrade
Them: Ok, can you give me a phone number...
Me (starting to aggravate really): No, I gave it to you twice - once
to you two weeks ago and the next week to your co-worker Y... Can't
you just give me the darn price quote?
Them: Please stay on the line...
/some noise/
Them: Thank you for your wait. The price would be ... and the camera
will have to be brought by the special order as we're not planning to
bring it here in numbers yet...
/the rest is irrelevant/

And that, dear Igor, is one of the major camera gear importers here
who happens to be also an official Canon dealer and this specific
department (just two women) is their private customers sale force...

Mere fact that my gear gets fixed when I need it has to be considered
a blessing.

/deep sigh/

Boris






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Re: I made a Blurb

[Boris Liberman]

Excellent work, Derby. Worthy conclusion of a great effort by you, methinks.

On 1/6/2011 1:39 AM, Derby Chang wrote:



I finished a Blurb this morning. Going to make myself a strong cup of
tea now.

http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/1905398





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Re: My New Camera

[Boris Liberman]

Does it take Fuji film? /ducks for cover/

On 1/6/2011 3:47 AM, Walter Hamler wrote:

A friend who is also a retired Navy Photographer like I am gave me a
camera kit today.
Wonder how it will work?

Walt

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Re: My picks for 2010

[Boris Liberman]

Superb work, David. 'Old Forge Farm - Raking berries' and 'Rings 
Fountain - Rose Kennedy Greenway' stand out for me.


You then would be that guy who traveled all the way to Egypt only to 
stop shy of crossing the border due North /wink/.


Boris


On 1/6/2011 2:51 AM, David Parsons wrote:

I went through my pictures and these are the best ones (IMO) that I
took in 2010.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157625749646476/detail/




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Re: speaking of picking photos for the annual

[Boris Liberman]

Spot #1 - Dojo shot. Uncropped.
Spot #2 - Dojo shot. The last crop.
Spot #3 - Stormtrooper helmet and some gadget thereunder...

IMHO.

On 1/5/2011 1:11 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I've started the selection process myself and have set aside some shots to mull 
over:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625712393314/

My favorite shot from last year is the one of Anno Sensei (my sensei's sensei) 
bowing in before class when he was visiting Santa Cruz from Japan last summer:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4802263252/

I've noticed, however, that vertical format photos lose a lot in the PDML 
annual, ending up about half the size of the horizontal format photos, and have 
tried a couple of other crops to bring things in a little tighter.

I'm curious which photos that the members of this esteemed forum think would 
work best in this year's annual, and for any suggestions to improve them.

Larry

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[Boris Liberman]

Sensor banding?

On 1/6/2011 8:23 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it
might be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the
rendering good enough. Here's a quick and dirty version from the
original Jpeg.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html

and the original for comparison.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html

Any thoughts?





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Pentax firmware updates (SDXC support and more)

[Dario Bonazza]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1101/11010602pentaxdslrfirmware.asp

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Re: I made a Blurb

[Cotty]

On 6/1/11, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I finished a Blurb this morning. Going to make myself a strong cup of
>tea now.
>
>http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/1905398

Fantastic work as usual - you've got balls!!

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Cotty]

On 5/1/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>personal discipline.

Could do with some of that!!!


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Re: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[Cotty]

>On 1/5/2011 9:32 PM, Cotty wrote:
>> On 5/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> It is unfortunately true, that the chasm between two great countries on
>>> this plant is still very deep.

>On 1/5/2011 9:32 PM, Cotty wrote:

>> We should look to cultivate an atmosphere of friendship.

On 6/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Are you being sarcastic or sincere, Cotty?

I think I'll leaf it alone for now.

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[eckinator]

2011/1/4 Cotty :
>
> LOL. Just seen the subject line.

Does it work long time then? Is it a sport? eh?

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Re: I made a Blurb

[Dario Bonazza]

Derby Chang wrote:

I finished a Blurb this morning. Going to make myself a strong cup of 
tea now.


http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/1905398


Seen and bought, all within a couple minutes. Guess how much I like it ;-)

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PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[frank theriault]

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html

Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[paul stenquist]

I like it. A nice juxtaposition of elements. The noise gives it character.
Paul
On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
> 
> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
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[Jack Davis]

Believe I prefer the color in this case. Like the sky and water blues with nice 
overall sunny lighting.

Jack

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: PESO -- The Birds B&W
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 10:23 PM
> I posted a color version of this
> early last year, I'm thinking that it might be worth
> submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the
> rendering good enough.  Here's a quick and dirty
> version from the original Jpeg.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html
> 
> and the original for comparison.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
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[P. J. Alling]

Dynamic range was extensive.  Parts of the frame were at a point where 
such things might show up.but I was more worried about the noise.


On 1/6/2011 3:59 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Sensor banding?

On 1/6/2011 8:23 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it
might be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the
rendering good enough. Here's a quick and dirty version from the
original Jpeg.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html

and the original for comparison.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html

Any thoughts?








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Re: PESO - MOMA Stairway

[Mark Roberts]

Bob Sullivan wrote:

>Rick,
>I too think this is one of the best shots you have shown here.

I agree. This is really, really excellent!

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12176013


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Re: PDML 2010 blogroll

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:45 -0700, "steve harley" 
wrote:
> On 2011-01-03 18:09 , Brian Walters wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > Maybe I missed it but are you putting the blog list up somewhere where
> > we can access it?
> 
> 
> well, it's archived here:
> 
> 
> 
> but that's probably not what you meant ;?>
> 
> here's something that will automatically list the _home pages_ of all 
> the feeds i keep in my PDML folder in my news reader:
> 
> 
> 
> (it isn't really the _feed_ list i wanted to provide, but it's what i 
> could completely automatically sync with my newsreader)
> 



That's a useful list, thanks. I'll work my way through them.  I notice,
though, that some of the feeds in your original post don't appear on the
new page.  Is that because the list is dynamically created?


Cheers

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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Steven Desjardins]

It looks like a serious group of potential gum offenders.  A great
shot as always Frank.  I like your view of reality, at least through a
lens.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:38 AM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> I like it. A nice juxtaposition of elements. The noise gives it character.
> Paul
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
>>
>> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Here's to the Men in Uniforms

[John Sessoms]

You're putting the cart before the horse.

From: eckinator


Odd. I always thought only people w/o a sex life joined the force...
Nice shot, thanks for sharing =)
Ecke

2011/1/5 frank theriault :

> WARNING: ?Some might find this language offensive. ?Family or
> workplace viewing alert.
>
> One sees the weirdest graffiti sometimes:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/heres-to-men-in-uniforms.html


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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"


It doesn't teach, it lets you learn. There's a big difference.
On 1/5/2011 11:23 AM, David Parsons wrote:

It teaches you how to photograph?  $1000 is a bargain for that
feature.  :)



You can do that with one of these:

http://www.ecofriend.org/images/kodak_camera.jpg


What does the other $995 get you?

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/6/2011 9:03 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling"


It doesn't teach, it lets you learn. There's a big difference.
On 1/5/2011 11:23 AM, David Parsons wrote:

It teaches you how to photograph?  $1000 is a bargain for that
feature.  :)



You can do that with one of these:

http://www.ecofriend.org/images/kodak_camera.jpg


What does the other $995 get you?

Actually that doesn't really let you learn the craft of photography, 
that lets you take pictures under favorable circumstances.  You may 
develop an "eye" but you'll never develop the skills necessary to make a 
photograph under difficult circumstances.


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Re: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[John Sessoms]

A little bit of both? They're not entirely mutually exclusive.

From: Boris Liberman


Are you being sarcastic or sincere, Cotty?

On 1/5/2011 9:32 PM, Cotty wrote:

> On 5/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
>

>> It is unfortunately true, that the chasm between two great countries on
>> this plant is still very deep.

>
> We should look to cultivate an atmosphere of friendship.
>


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[Daniel J. Matyola]

I prefer the color version, but what the hell do I know?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:23 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it might
> be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the rendering good
> enough.  Here's a quick and dirty version from the original Jpeg.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html
>
> and the original for comparison.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html
>
> Any thoughts?

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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nice.  I like the way the woman in the foreground is staring off
to the side, while the two background figures are facing towards the
center of the frame.  It make the foreground woman seem very lonely,
isolated and despondent.

I also love the slogan.  In the NYC subway system, gum is the least of
the many things they have to worry about .  .   .  .

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
>
> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank

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Re: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[Boris Liberman]

Naturally.

On 1/6/2011 4:33 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

A little bit of both? They're not entirely mutually exclusive.

From: Boris Liberman


Are you being sarcastic or sincere, Cotty?

On 1/5/2011 9:32 PM, Cotty wrote:

> On 5/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
>

>> It is unfortunately true, that the chasm between two great
countries on
>> this plant is still very deep.

>
> We should look to cultivate an atmosphere of friendship.
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Color please...  Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:23 AM, P. J. Alling
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> I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it might
> be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the rendering good
> enough.  Here's a quick and dirty version from the original Jpeg.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html
>
> and the original for comparison.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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Re: Question of terms and/or English

[Darren Addy]

This thread is no longer Gouda and is starting to grate, but I guess
it is all Feta compli.


On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> He butter not . . . .
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>
>> You shouldn't get all churned up over this
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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:38 AM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> I like it. A nice juxtaposition of elements. The noise gives it character.
> Paul

Agreed

Dave
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
>>
>> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
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What Bob said.

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Color please...  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:23 AM, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>> I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it might
>> be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the rendering good
>> enough.  Here's a quick and dirty version from the original Jpeg.
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html
>> 
>> and the original for comparison.
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
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Droid 2 phone pic

[Paul Stenquist]

I had to purchase a smart phone, because I've missed a couple of Times 
assignments, due to no e-mail access. Plus, believe it or not, they want me to 
"tweet" from the NAIAS auto show floor on press day. 

The cool part about all this is that the Droid 2 comes with a 5 megapixel 
camera in a 16 x 9 format. I haven't had time to do any real photography with 
it, but I did step out on my deck and shoot the frozen garden in my backyard. 
Not bad. Looks like quite a bit of noise reduction, which makes sense, and I 
sharpened it a bit and bumped up the saturation in PhotoShop, since the day was 
dark and gray. It's here:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12204090&size=lg

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OT: Interesting signs from around the world

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-srv/gallery/1010_ReadersSigns/index.html?jumpToPic=0

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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[Charles Robinson]

On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12204090&size=lg
> 

I'd call that completely acceptable for a camera phone!

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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[John Francis]

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 11:28:15AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12204090&size=lg
> > 
> 
> I'd call that completely acceptable for a camera phone!
 

Ah, but that's not the real test.  The question is whether
you can drop the last four words.  I'd say it's pretty close.


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Re: My big BOO to Pentax Repair Customer Service!

[Igor Roshchin]

Thu Jan 6 02:17:25 CST 2011
Boris Liberman wrote:

> Trust me, it would have made no sense asking for the supervisor in this 
> case. This is /normal/ behavior in my country.
> 
> /deep sigh/

That reminds me a very old joke I heard some 17 years ago from my
Israeli colleague, one variation of which is written e.g. at the top of 
this article (just what I found upon a quick search):

http://www.templebetham.org/Articles/index.cfm?id=2471&pge_prg_id=7284&pge_id=1001
http://tinyurl.com/excuseme-joke

Cheers,

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PS. Excuse me. :-)


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Re: My big BOO to Pentax Repair Customer Service!

[Ken Waller]

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- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" 

Subject: Re: My big BOO to Pentax Repair Customer Service!


Ken, there is no such thing as Pentax Israel company. Some other local 
company was given the rights of official re-seller and so on. There are 
others as official, but this one is the biggest. They sell many brands 
including Pentax and they offer post-sale services.


Trust me, it would have made no sense asking for the supervisor in this 
case. This is /normal/ behavior in my country.


Sorry to hear that Boris, I've asked for the supervisor several times in 
instances such as yours & have generally gotten favorable results.




/deep sigh/

Boris


On 1/5/2011 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Boris, was that conversation between you and Pentax or an importer?

I would have asked to speak to the clerks supervisor.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" 

Subject: Re: My big BOO to Pentax Repair Customer Service!



Igor, I sincerely and most respectfully think that you overestimate or
overrate the regular clerks with whom you have to deal at Pentax
Services (whatever specific organization is).


Pentax USA, do you hear me?
Are you a serious company who is serious about its CS or just a bunch
of opportunists reselling products from Pentax-Japan?


My uneducated guess would be 2/3 of the latter and at most 1/3 of the
former.

Here is a brief transcript of my process of obtaining the price of K-5
in Israel.

_Day A_
Them: Hello
Me: Hello, whom am I speaking with?
Them: My name is X
Me: I'd like to know the price of new Pentax camera - the K-5
Them: Wait a moment
/some noise/
Them: Thank you for your wait. I don't have the price right now. Let
me write your phone number and we'll return to you shortly.
Me: Here is the number.
/end of conversation/

_A week later!_
Them: Hello
Me: Hello, who's on the line?
Them: My name is Y
Me: I'd like to talk to X, please
Them: They are not available at the moment, what can I do for you?
Me: I called you a week ago in order to get a quote on Pentax K-5, the
new camera. Are there any news?
Them: I am sorry, I cannot help you, but I can pass a message to X.
Please give me your phone number.
Me: Here is the number. But can you please make it happen in less than
a week?
Them: Oh, sure, she'll call you later today or in the worst case
tomorrow.
/end of conversation/

_Yet another week later!!_
Them: Hello
Me: Hello, with whom do I have an honor of speaking?
Them: My name is X, what can I do for you?
Me: Oh! Hello there, don't you remember I called you two weeks ago
about Pentax K-5?
Them: Hmmm Oh, may be...
Me: Well, so do you have an answer for me? I kind of need a price to
buy it from you.
Them: Sorry, but I don't. I can offer you another camera, just as good
- K-7, we have few left at very attractive price point.
Me: No, thank you - I have one already and want to upgrade
Them: Ok, can you give me a phone number...
Me (starting to aggravate really): No, I gave it to you twice - once
to you two weeks ago and the next week to your co-worker Y... Can't
you just give me the darn price quote?
Them: Please stay on the line...
/some noise/
Them: Thank you for your wait. The price would be ... and the camera
will have to be brought by the special order as we're not planning to
bring it here in numbers yet...
/the rest is irrelevant/

And that, dear Igor, is one of the major camera gear importers here
who happens to be also an official Canon dealer and this specific
department (just two women) is their private customers sale force...

Mere fact that my gear gets fixed when I need it has to be considered
a blessing.

/deep sigh/

Boris



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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Ken Waller]

Good eye knarF! 


The 3 individuals make this one!

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

Subject: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html

Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Ken Waller]

I like your view of reality, at least through a lens.


MARK !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Desjardins" 

Subject: Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free


It looks like a serious group of potential gum offenders.  A great
shot as always Frank.  I like your view of reality, at least through a
lens.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:38 AM, paul stenquist  
wrote:

I like it. A nice juxtaposition of elements. The noise gives it character.
Paul
On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html

Another subway shot. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO - MOMA Stairway

[Ken Waller]

I agree, very nice!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 

Subject: Re: PESO - MOMA Stairway



Bob Sullivan wrote:


Rick,
I too think this is one of the best shots you have shown here.


I agree. This is really, really excellent!


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12176013



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[Ken Waller]

I prefer the color version, but what the hell do I know?


MARK !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 


Subject: Re: PESO -- The Birds B&W



I prefer the color version, but what the hell do I know?

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:23 AM, P. J. Alling  
wrote:
I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it 
might

be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the rendering good
enough. Here's a quick and dirty version from the original Jpeg.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html

and the original for comparison.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html

Any thoughts?



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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[Darren Addy]

I'll just add that when I clicked the link I was surprised. It was
better than I had been expecting!

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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[Darren Addy]

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> I'll just add that when I clicked the link I was surprised. It was
> better than I had been expecting!

Particularly with some of the reviews out there that call the Droid 2
camera "mediocre".
One article's quote:

The Droid 2 is a total upgrade from the original Droid, with one
exception: the camera. The Droid's camera was bad, and the Droid 2's
camera isn't much better. The 5-megapixel snapper took decent shots
outdoors with bright, natural looking colors, but details weren't as
sharp as photos taken with the Droid X or the iPhone 4.

I was even less impressed with my indoor shots. A few had a greenish
cast to them, but this may have been due to the lighting. Details were
a bit soft too; not as sharp as photos taken with the recently
reviewed XPeria X10. I also detected some graininess, and a few
objects had a sort of ghostly aura around them. The camera's autofocus
isn't very effective, and despite the nice variety of scene effects, I
didn't find them to be very useful in improving my shots.

Another strange omission is the lack of support for 720p-quality video
capture, which is pretty much the default for high-end cameras these
days. The Droid 2 captures at 480p, and there's no dedicated
"narration" mode for capturing your own musings via video. Video
quality was decent, although a bit pixelated when capturing
fast-moving objects. Despite the missing narration mode, the Droid X
did capture audio pretty well. Another plus: one of the treats in
Android 2.2 is the ability to use your camera's flash as a light for
shooting video in dimly-lit environments.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/646269/review/droid_2.html

Of course, these articles are from back in August, so maybe they
upgraded the camera they put in them in response to the reviews?

Also of possible interest are the Best Droid 2 camera APPs:
http://droid-2.net/?p=949

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Re: PDML 2010 blogroll

[steve harley]

On 2011-01-06 05:45 , Brian Walters wrote:

here's something that will automatically list the _home pages_ of all
the feeds i keep in my PDML folder in my news reader:



(it isn't really the _feed_ list i wanted to provide, but it's what i
could completely automatically sync with my newsreader)





That's a useful list, thanks. I'll work my way through them.  I notice,
though, that some of the feeds in your original post don't appear on the
new page.  Is that because the list is dynamically created?


good catch -- i hadn't checked in detail

it seems that some of the feeds (including yours) in my desktop feed 
reader weren't synced to Google Reader automatically; i deleted and 
re-added those feeds and the list has updated automatically


... except for one, which happens to be yours:



it looks like your links are relative; your feed works in my newsreader, 
but it doesn't validate; see:




i don't know if it is coming from Dropbox or Jalbum, Google Reader isn't 
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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[paul stenquist]

I read that same article before I bought the phone. The Droid X, which the 
author cites, has an 8 megapixel camera. I'm suspicious of the noise level with 
that many pixels on an itty-bitty sensor. I know my 5-megapixel Panasonic P&S 
delivers plenty of resolution for most purposes. But I wasn't shopping for a 
camera. I needed a communication device with a screen large enough for an old 
fart to be able to read e-mails. Both the Droid X and Droid 2 have nice big 
screens. But the Droid X has only a touch-screen keyboard. The Droid 2 has a 
touch screen keyboard and a pushbutton keyboard that slides out the side. It's 
like a mini computer keyboard. With my fat fingers, I have a real problem with 
touch-screen keyboards. I found the Droid 2 keyboard made typing much easier. 
The fact that it has a decent camera was just a pleasant surprise.
Paul

On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> I'll just add that when I clicked the link I was surprised. It was
>> better than I had been expecting!
> 
> Particularly with some of the reviews out there that call the Droid 2
> camera "mediocre".
> One article's quote:
> 
> The Droid 2 is a total upgrade from the original Droid, with one
> exception: the camera. The Droid's camera was bad, and the Droid 2's
> camera isn't much better. The 5-megapixel snapper took decent shots
> outdoors with bright, natural looking colors, but details weren't as
> sharp as photos taken with the Droid X or the iPhone 4.
> 
> I was even less impressed with my indoor shots. A few had a greenish
> cast to them, but this may have been due to the lighting. Details were
> a bit soft too; not as sharp as photos taken with the recently
> reviewed XPeria X10. I also detected some graininess, and a few
> objects had a sort of ghostly aura around them. The camera's autofocus
> isn't very effective, and despite the nice variety of scene effects, I
> didn't find them to be very useful in improving my shots.
> 
> Another strange omission is the lack of support for 720p-quality video
> capture, which is pretty much the default for high-end cameras these
> days. The Droid 2 captures at 480p, and there's no dedicated
> "narration" mode for capturing your own musings via video. Video
> quality was decent, although a bit pixelated when capturing
> fast-moving objects. Despite the missing narration mode, the Droid X
> did capture audio pretty well. Another plus: one of the treats in
> Android 2.2 is the ability to use your camera's flash as a light for
> shooting video in dimly-lit environments.
> 
> http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/646269/review/droid_2.html
> 
> Of course, these articles are from back in August, so maybe they
> upgraded the camera they put in them in response to the reviews?
> 
> Also of possible interest are the Best Droid 2 camera APPs:
> http://droid-2.net/?p=949
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RE: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Bob W]

> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
> 
> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 

they handing out free dentures to old people then?

B


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RE: I made a Blurb

[Bob W]

> On 6/1/11, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I finished a Blurb this morning. Going to make myself a strong cup of
> >tea now.
> >
> >http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/1905398
> 
> Fantastic work as usual - you've got balls!!

is that anything like lapsang souchong?

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Pesos: two shots

[Steven Desjardins]

I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

Any suggestions?

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RE: Pesos: two shots

[J.C. O'Connell]

I prefer the uncropped version.

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I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

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Re: Pesos: two shots

[Steven Desjardins]

LOL.  I hadn't noticed that.  The second is not a crop of the first
but another shot taken right after.  I guess those flamingos didn't
move much.  Thanks for the comment.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:02 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
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Re: Pesos: two shots

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On 11-01-06 1:56 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

Any suggestions?



The cropped one.  There's just something about threes and "simplify".  
Cool shot!


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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

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On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:22 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> On 1/6/2011 9:03 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling"
>> 
>>> It doesn't teach, it lets you learn. There's a big difference.
>>> On 1/5/2011 11:23 AM, David Parsons wrote:
> It teaches you how to photograph?  $1000 is a bargain for that
> feature.  :)
>> 
>> 
>> You can do that with one of these:
>> 
>> http://www.ecofriend.org/images/kodak_camera.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> What does the other $995 get you?
>> 
> Actually that doesn't really let you learn the craft of photography, that 
> lets you take pictures under favorable circumstances.  You may develop an 
> "eye" but you'll never develop the skills necessary to make a photograph 
> under difficult circumstances.

You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos, the quality 
of the camera only affects what conditions you can take great photos in.

> 

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I think I like the color the best.
On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it might 
> be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the rendering good 
> enough.  Here's a quick and dirty version from the original Jpeg.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html
> 
> and the original for comparison.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: Pesos: two shots

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-01-06 1:56 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
>> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
> 
> The cropped one.  There's just something about threes and "simplify".  Cool 
> shot!

I like the juxtaposition with the other bird.


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Re: Pesos: two shots

[Jack Davis]

Steve,
I think the second is the most unique (evocative).

Jack 

--- On Thu, 1/6/11, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

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> Subject: Pesos: two shots
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 10:56 AM
> I never went back to these
> pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
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Color. the "layers" separate better. 
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I think I like the color the best.
On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> I posted a color version of this early last year, I'm thinking that it might 
> be worth submitting to the Annual in B&W if I can get the rendering good 
> enough.  Here's a quick and dirty version from the original Jpeg.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirdsb%26w.html
> 
> and the original for comparison.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thebirds.html
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Toine]

Perfect! Makes me wonder how you do that, capturing a moment like that.

Toine

On 6 January 2011 12:31, frank theriault  wrote:
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
>
> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

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On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I had to purchase a smart phone, because I've missed a couple of Times 
> assignments, due to no e-mail access. Plus, believe it or not, they want me 
> to "tweet" from the NAIAS auto show floor on press day. 
> 
> The cool part about all this is that the Droid 2 comes with a 5 megapixel 
> camera in a 16 x 9 format. I haven't had time to do any real photography with 
> it, but I did step out on my deck and shoot the frozen garden in my backyard. 
> Not bad. Looks like quite a bit of noise reduction, which makes sense, and I 
> sharpened it a bit and bumped up the saturation in PhotoShop, since the day 
> was dark and gray. It's here:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12204090&size=lg

I'm not terribly thrilled with the image quality in my first generation Moto 
Droid. What I do like about it though is the ability to geotag photos, so if I 
want to go back and see where I took a photo, I can.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157622699921737/

A few apps that I find very helpful:

K-9 mail is better than the original mail client.
Compass is now very handy because you can tag a spot with GPS and use it to 
find that spot later, like when you park your car in an unfamiliar city.


My friend Ed wrote an RPN calculator that's very nice, it acts just like one of 
the old HPs.

Tricorder is amazing, it gives you access to all of the sensors in the droid: 
accelerometers, magnetic flux, gps, and will even do FFTs on the audio input.

Google sky is very, very cool.

Shop savvy allows you to take a picture of a products UPC code and will look up 
prices on the web for better deals either on the web, or in local stores that 
have their prices posted.

others worth checking out:
wifi analyzer
gps status
navy clock
bubble level


I'm also learning to use swype for input, and it seems to work very well.

I'm trying to learn the development environment for it, but it's a bit 
challenging.

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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Derby Chang]

On 6/01/2011 10:31 PM, frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html

Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank





I remember reading about the amusing Toronto subway etiquette posters. 
They should be collectors items. Seriously, people cutting their nails 
on trains make me cringe.


http://dailycontributor.com/clever-subway-etiquette-posters/14253/

Love how this shot does the split screen, each side unaware of the other.

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Re: Pesos: two shots

[Bob Sullivan]

The 4 birds.  The top right bird lends a context to the other 3.
I know what I'm looking at irght away.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
>
> Any suggestions?
>
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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[paul stenquist]

Thanks Larry. Great info!
Paul

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> I had to purchase a smart phone, because I've missed a couple of Times 
>> assignments, due to no e-mail access. Plus, believe it or not, they want me 
>> to "tweet" from the NAIAS auto show floor on press day. 
>> 
>> The cool part about all this is that the Droid 2 comes with a 5 megapixel 
>> camera in a 16 x 9 format. I haven't had time to do any real photography 
>> with it, but I did step out on my deck and shoot the frozen garden in my 
>> backyard. Not bad. Looks like quite a bit of noise reduction, which makes 
>> sense, and I sharpened it a bit and bumped up the saturation in PhotoShop, 
>> since the day was dark and gray. It's here:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12204090&size=lg
> 
> I'm not terribly thrilled with the image quality in my first generation Moto 
> Droid. What I do like about it though is the ability to geotag photos, so if 
> I want to go back and see where I took a photo, I can.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157622699921737/
> 
> A few apps that I find very helpful:
> 
> K-9 mail is better than the original mail client.
> Compass is now very handy because you can tag a spot with GPS and use it to 
> find that spot later, like when you park your car in an unfamiliar city.
> 
> 
> My friend Ed wrote an RPN calculator that's very nice, it acts just like one 
> of the old HPs.
> 
> Tricorder is amazing, it gives you access to all of the sensors in the droid: 
> accelerometers, magnetic flux, gps, and will even do FFTs on the audio input.
> 
> Google sky is very, very cool.
> 
> Shop savvy allows you to take a picture of a products UPC code and will look 
> up prices on the web for better deals either on the web, or in local stores 
> that have their prices posted.
> 
> others worth checking out:
> wifi analyzer
> gps status
> navy clock
> bubble level
> 
> 
> I'm also learning to use swype for input, and it seems to work very well.
> 
> I'm trying to learn the development environment for it, but it's a bit 
> challenging.
> 
>Larry
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Re: I made a Blurb

[Derby Chang]

On 6/01/2011 11:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On 11-01-05 6:39 PM, Derby Chang wrote:



I finished a Blurb this morning. Going to make myself a strong cup of 
tea now.


http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/1905398




Excellent, Derby!  Extremely strong material in there.  I *really* 
love the shot on pg 47, btw.


Did you use the Blurb s/w or something else?

Savour your tea. :-)

-bmw



Thanks for looking, guys, and thanks especially Dario.

Bruce, I have InDesign at work, but not at home, so just used BookSmart. 
It's ok if I'm not doing anything too ambitious, and can't argue with 
the price.


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OT - Adobe CS Live: of any use?

[Bruce Walker]

When I registered the Photoshop CS5 upgrade, I was "rewarded" with a one 
year subscription to Adobe CS Live. That seemed nice until I looked 
around the intro pages and found that the services it offers are a 
browser compatibility test for your web designs (I'm not doing any), and 
a whole bunch of other densely buzzword-infested things that will work 
wonders for my workflow, apparently.


Now I just got a reminder from Adobe that I've got access to this 
wonderful service but I haven't used it. And it's going to expire next 
November. Oh noes!


So, am I actually missing something here? Is there anything at all 
relevant to a photographer in CS Live?


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Re: PESO - Keep the TTC Gum-Free

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/keep-ttc-gum-free.html
> 
> Another subway shot.  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

Excellent.


> 
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RE: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Bob W]

> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos, 

Ahem.

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos, 
> 
> Ahem.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera

Bob,
How many times a day are you called a smart-ass?

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RE: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Bob W]

> >> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos,
> >
> > Ahem.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera
> 
> Bob,
> How many times a day are you called a smart-ass?
> 
> Or do people just get tired of repeating themselves?

A smack in the mouth usually shuts 'em up. :o)




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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-01-06 3:51 PM, Bob W wrote:

You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos,

Ahem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera


cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Camera


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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>
>On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Bob W wrote:
>
>>> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos, 
>> 
>> Ahem.
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera
>
>Bob,
>How many times a day are you called a smart-ass?

Difficult to count because such a large percentage consists of people
muttering at their computer monitors. ;-)


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Re: Pesos: two shots

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I like the one with 4 birds.  The white bird adds interest, and its
shadow is a focal point for the entire composition.

Dan

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[eckinator]

2011/1/6 Bob W :
>> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos,
>
> Ahem.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera

Interesting barrel design, even weather sealed but whoever calculated
the front element had no clue...

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Re: Question of terms and/or English

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2011/1/6 Darren Addy :
> This thread is no longer Gouda and is starting to grate, but I guess
> it is all Feta compli.

yeah it is making my grey card go even gruyère...

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Re: Eclips of rising sun

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2011/1/5 Jim Apilado :
> A GREAT SHOT ! I'VE SEEN A PARTIAL ECLIPSE BEFORE, BUT NO SPACE STATION.

Hey Jim!
Good to see you posting again. How are you doing?

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Steven Desjardins]

Still works.  I've been there and got some great shots.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 11-01-06 3:51 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>>
>>> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos,
>>
>> Ahem.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera
>
> cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Camera
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Re: PDML 2010 blogroll

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:19 -0700, "steve harley" 
wrote:
> On 2011-01-06 05:45 , Brian Walters wrote:

> > That's a useful list, thanks. I'll work my way through them.  I notice,
> > though, that some of the feeds in your original post don't appear on the
> > new page.  Is that because the list is dynamically created?
> 
> good catch -- i hadn't checked in detail
> 
> it seems that some of the feeds (including yours) in my desktop feed 
> reader weren't synced to Google Reader automatically; i deleted and 
> re-added those feeds and the list has updated automatically
> 
> ... except for one, which happens to be yours:
> 
> 
> 
> it looks like your links are relative; your feed works in my newsreader, 
> but it doesn't validate; see:
> 
> 
> 
> i don't know if it is coming from Dropbox or Jalbum, Google Reader isn't 
> passing this through, probably because it can't identify the "home page" 
> for the feed
> 


Probably from JAlbum.  I'll have to check though the settings. 
Actually, I never even realised that my PESO page had a feed until I saw
your original list.


Cheers

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Re: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/6/2011 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Bob W wrote:


You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos,

Ahem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera

Bob,
How many times a day are you called a smart-ass?

Or do people just get tired of repeating themselves?


How many minutes are there in a day?


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Re: My New Camera

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2011/1/6 Daniel J. Matyola :
> What kind of memory card does it take?

The kind you find in Memory Lane. :-)

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Re: My New Camera

[Steven Desjardins]

Good one, Jos.

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> 2011/1/6 Daniel J. Matyola :
>> What kind of memory card does it take?
>
> The kind you find in Memory Lane. :-)
>
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RE: OT - more Fuki X100 details

[Bob W]

> >>> You might learn the lesson that any camera can take great photos,
> >>
> >> Ahem.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_Camera
> >
> >Bob,
> >How many times a day are you called a smart-ass?
> 
> Difficult to count because such a large percentage consists of people
> muttering at their computer monitors. ;-)

muttering is ok. just don't shout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4&playnext=1&list=PLE009340CC82029D
2&index=31

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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[Rob Studdert]

On 7 January 2011 07:19, paul stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks Larry. Great info!

Some more to add to the list of cool Droid apps:

3G Watchdog (data logger)
AK notepad (quick notepad with on-line web access)
Astro (app backup and file manager)
Barcode Scanner
Chrome to Phone (sends current page on PC to phone)
XE Currency
Dropbox
eBay
Google Gesture Search
Google Goggles
Google Translate
Hidden SSID Enabler
Google Maps
Opera Mini
Paypal
Photobucket
Photoshop Express
Posterous
Runner
Skype
SoundCloud
Speed Test
TuneIn Radio
Wifi Analyzer
Wifi Advanced Configuration Editor
YouTube

;-)

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Re: Pesos: two shots

[P. J. Alling]

I like the first, the juxtaposition of the Flamencos and the Ibis, (at 
least I think it's an Ibis),  makes the shot.


On 1/6/2011 1:56 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

Any suggestions?




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OT Texting for seniors, was: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[David J Brooks]

Since more and more Seniors are texting and tweeting there appears to be
 a need for a STC (Senior Texting Code).

   ATD: At The Doctor's
   BFF: Best Friend Fell
   BTW: Bring The Wheelchair
   BYOT: Bring Your Own Teeth
   CBM: Covered By Medicare
   CUATSC: See You At The Senior Center
   DWI: Driving While Incontinent
   FWB: Friend With Beta Blockers
   FWIW: Forgot Where I Was
   FYI: Found Your Insulin
   GGPBL: Gotta Go, Pacemaker Battery Low!
   GHA: Got Heartburn Again
   HGBM: Had Good Bowel Movement
   IMHO: Is My Hearing-Aid On?
   LMDO: Laughing My Dentures Out
   LOL: Living On Lipitor
   LWO: Lawrence Welk's On
   OMMR: On My Massage Recliner
   OMSG: Oh My! Sorry, Gas.
   ROFL... CGU: Rolling On The Floor Laughing... And Can't Get Up
  SGGP: Sorry, Gotta Go Poop
  TTYL: Talk To You Louder
  WAITT: Who Am I Talking To?
  WTFA: Wet The Furniture Again
   WTP: Where's The Prunes?
   WWNO: Walker Wheels Need Oil
   LMGA: Lost My Glasses Again
   GLKI (Gotta Go, Laxative Kicking In)

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645D fiddling

[AlunFoto]

Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations:

1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its "A"
position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera.

2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs
of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though.

3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark)
than what you find with eg. K-7.

4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same
as for 645N/645Nii.

5. You will not boost your FPS by going from "single" to "multiple"
drive mode. :-)

6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera
post-processing presets.

oh, and what should be the zeroth point:
It takes absolutely fabulous pictures, even of crappy motifs. :-)

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Re: Droid 2 phone pic

[David J Brooks]

Looks pretty good.
Not sure what these droid things are, i have heard the name bantered around.
I still have my old bag analogue phone.;-)

Dave

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I had to purchase a smart phone, because I've missed a couple of Times 
> assignments, due to no e-mail access. Plus, believe it or not, they want me 
> to "tweet" from the NAIAS auto show floor on press day.
>
> The cool part about all this is that the Droid 2 comes with a 5 megapixel 
> camera in a 16 x 9 format. I haven't had time to do any real photography with 
> it, but I did step out on my deck and shoot the frozen garden in my backyard. 
> Not bad. Looks like quite a bit of noise reduction, which makes sense, and I 
> sharpened it a bit and bumped up the saturation in PhotoShop, since the day 
> was dark and gray. It's here:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12204090&size=lg
>
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Re: 645D fiddling

[Cotty]

On 6/1/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Fiddled with a 645D today.

But did you fiddle with some Norwegian Krone ;-)))

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Re: Pesos: two shots

[David J Brooks]

The first one. Seems more natural.

Dave

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
>
> Any suggestions?
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Re: I made a Blurb

[Ann Sanfedele]

Derby Chang wrote:


On 6/01/2011 11:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


On 11-01-05 6:39 PM, Derby Chang wrote:




I finished a Blurb this morning. Going to make myself a strong cup 
of tea now.


http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/1905398




Excellent, Derby!  Extremely strong material in there.  I *really* 
love the shot on pg 47, btw.


Did you use the Blurb s/w or something else?

Savour your tea. :-)

-bmw



Thanks for looking, guys, and thanks especially Dario.

Bruce, I have InDesign at work, but not at home, so just used 
BookSmart. It's ok if I'm not doing anything too ambitious, and can't 
argue with the price.


D


Derby, I think it should do very well  - congrats!

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Re: 645D fiddling

[P. J. Alling]

So we get an aperture simulator for 10,000 bucks?

On 1/6/2011 5:20 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations:

1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its "A"
position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera.

2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs
of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though.

3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark)
than what you find with eg. K-7.

4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same
as for 645N/645Nii.

5. You will not boost your FPS by going from "single" to "multiple"
drive mode. :-)

6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera
post-processing presets.

oh, and what should be the zeroth point:
It takes absolutely fabulous pictures, even of crappy motifs. :-)

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Re: 645D fiddling

[AlunFoto]

2011/1/6 Cotty :
> On 6/1/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Fiddled with a 645D today.
>
> But did you fiddle with some Norwegian Krone ;-)))
>

Alas. Nor with any plastic alternatives.

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Re: 645D fiddling

[AlunFoto]

2011/1/6 P. J. Alling :
> So we get an aperture simulator for 10,000 bucks?

You got it in one.

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Re: 645D fiddling

[Steven Desjardins]

All thee reviews I've read keep coming back to  that last point.  Of
course, why I read 645D reviews is another question.  Kinda like
pornography . . .

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations:
>
> 1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its "A"
> position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera.
>
> 2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs
> of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though.
>
> 3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark)
> than what you find with eg. K-7.
>
> 4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same
> as for 645N/645Nii.
>
> 5. You will not boost your FPS by going from "single" to "multiple"
> drive mode. :-)
>
> 6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera
> post-processing presets.
>
> oh, and what should be the zeroth point:
> It takes absolutely fabulous pictures, even of crappy motifs. :-)
>
> Jostein
>
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Re: OT Texting for seniors, was: OT Ya know you're "old" when you remember...

[Paul Stenquist]

Love it!
TOF
(Texting Old Fart)

On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:14 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Since more and more Seniors are texting and tweeting there appears to be
> a need for a STC (Senior Texting Code).
> 
>   ATD: At The Doctor's
>   BFF: Best Friend Fell
>   BTW: Bring The Wheelchair
>   BYOT: Bring Your Own Teeth
>   CBM: Covered By Medicare
>   CUATSC: See You At The Senior Center
>   DWI: Driving While Incontinent
>   FWB: Friend With Beta Blockers
>   FWIW: Forgot Where I Was
>   FYI: Found Your Insulin
>   GGPBL: Gotta Go, Pacemaker Battery Low!
>   GHA: Got Heartburn Again
>   HGBM: Had Good Bowel Movement
>   IMHO: Is My Hearing-Aid On?
>   LMDO: Laughing My Dentures Out
>   LOL: Living On Lipitor
>   LWO: Lawrence Welk's On
>   OMMR: On My Massage Recliner
>   OMSG: Oh My! Sorry, Gas.
>   ROFL... CGU: Rolling On The Floor Laughing... And Can't Get Up
>  SGGP: Sorry, Gotta Go Poop
>  TTYL: Talk To You Louder
>  WAITT: Who Am I Talking To?
>  WTFA: Wet The Furniture Again
>   WTP: Where's The Prunes?
>   WWNO: Walker Wheels Need Oil
>   LMGA: Lost My Glasses Again
>   GLKI (Gotta Go, Laxative Kicking In)
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: 645D fiddling

[Paul Stenquist]

On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:20 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

> Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations:
> 
> 1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its "A"
> position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera.
> 
> 2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs
> of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though.
> 
> 3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark)
> than what you find with eg. K-7.

That's true of K-5 as well. More accurate, IMO, since the meter assumes an 
overall balance.
Paul


> 
> 4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same
> as for 645N/645Nii.
> 
> 5. You will not boost your FPS by going from "single" to "multiple"
> drive mode. :-)
> 
> 6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera
> post-processing presets.
> 
> oh, and what should be the zeroth point:
> It takes absolutely fabulous pictures, even of crappy motifs. :-)
> 
> Jostein
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Re: 645D fiddling

[P. J. Alling]

Since I'm pretty sure that the Flex board in the K-7 is the same as that 
in the 645D, (it would only make sense from a cost perspective), and the 
A lenses are supposedly electronically comparable from K mount to 645 
mount, Pentax could easily implement such a thing in a future higher 
level K body much as Nikon has done with their higher level bodies with 
their older lenses.  I'd pay a little extra for a K-3 with that 
capability.  Probably even buy one before a major price drop for it.


On 1/6/2011 5:31 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

2011/1/6 P. J. Alling:

So we get an aperture simulator for 10,000 bucks?

You got it in one.

Jostein




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Model Naming Convention

[J.C. O'Connell]

After we get the K-3 and K-1 where will the model numbers go?

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J. Alling
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Subject: Re: 645D fiddling


Since I'm pretty sure that the Flex board in the K-7 is the same as that 
in the 645D, (it would only make sense from a cost perspective), and the 
A lenses are supposedly electronically comparable from K mount to 645 
mount, Pentax could easily implement such a thing in a future higher 
level K body much as Nikon has done with their higher level bodies with 
their older lenses.  I'd pay a little extra for a K-3 with that 
capability.  Probably even buy one before a major price drop for it.

On 1/6/2011 5:31 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
> 2011/1/6 P. J. Alling:
>> So we get an aperture simulator for 10,000 bucks?
> You got it in one.
>
> Jostein
>


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RE: Model Naming Convention

[Bob W]

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> 
> After we get the K-3 and K-1 where will the model numbers go?
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> J. Alling
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: 645D fiddling
> 
> 
> Since I'm pretty sure that the Flex board in the K-7 is the same as
> that
> in the 645D, (it would only make sense from a cost perspective), and
> the
> A lenses are supposedly electronically comparable from K mount to 645
> mount, Pentax could easily implement such a thing in a future higher
> level K body much as Nikon has done with their higher level bodies with
> their older lenses.  I'd pay a little extra for a K-3 with that
> capability.  Probably even buy one before a major price drop for it.
> 
> On 1/6/2011 5:31 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
> > 2011/1/6 P. J. Alling:
> >> So we get an aperture simulator for 10,000 bucks?
> > You got it in one.
> >
> > Jostein
> >
> 
> 
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> Kaboom!
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Re: Model Naming Convention

[Paul Ewins]

K+1, K+3, K+5 etc.



On 07/01/2011, at 9:53 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> After we get the K-3 and K-1 where will the model numbers go?
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Re: Model Naming Convention

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:53 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> After we get the K-3 and K-1 where will the model numbers go?

K0, K+1, K+2...

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