Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread David Mann
On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Sitting in my 'office' to escape the 41 deg C heat outside, I'm really
> appreciating seeing all of these winter shots

Yes it's a cool scene, reminded me of Calvin & Hobbes and the monsters under 
the bed.  Someone should get out the C+H books and do something reminiscent of 
their snowman scenes too.

I'm wondering what we're going to get in the next week as the prevailing winds 
tend to bring us your weather.  Will we get the heat wave or the cyclone?  I'm 
guessing the north island will get the wind & rain and us southerners will get 
the heat.

Dave
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
Firstly I assume from the focal lengths that you are fine with shorter
FL macros. For the type of work I do the 35mm sees more frames than my
50 or 125mm macro lenses and I used my A*200/4 so infrequently that I
sold it. Both lenses are reputably great performers but I can only
speak from experience about the 35ltd, It is quite sharp at all
apertures, it's got a little CA but otherwise is a great performer.
Its build is excellent and it's a very nice lens in use. That said I
still have both the A50/2.8 and FA50/2.8 macros and the A series lens
still gets a lot of work, it's a great little performer, tiny and
really well built.

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Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 February 2011 13:06, Brian Walters  wrote:

>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/winter_carnival/content/IMGP7700_large.html
>>
>
>
> Now that is just bizarre!
>
> Sitting in my 'office' to escape the 41 deg C heat outside, I'm really
> appreciating seeing all of these winter shots

Ditto. I'd rather be where that photo was taken, it appears a whole
lot more attractive at the moment.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 020 & 021 - GDG

2011-01-31 Thread Ann Sanfedele



William Robb wrote:


On 31/01/2011 7:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Two new additions for PESO 2011 are now available for viewing, both 
in the "Communicating" series:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5404222395/lightbox/



This one is classic.
Well done.


Yeah I agree. - really nice, Godders!

ann




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Re: PESO 2011 - 020 & 021 - GDG

2011-01-31 Thread Tim Bray
I like the first one; pity about the chair in the foreground -T

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> Two new additions for PESO 2011 are now available for viewing, both in the 
> "Communicating" series:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5404222395/lightbox/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5404249085/lightbox/
>
> (Take "lightbox/" off the end of the above links if you have trouble viewing 
> them.)
>
> The "Communicating 2011" set top page is available at
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625844414410/
> if you want to see the series as a whole.
>
> Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated.
>
> Godfrey
>
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PESO -- Snow got your goat?

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling

The vehicle is called a Gama Goat thus the title.



Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited

Notes:  Converted to B&W using Fotomatic B&W Plus Green Filter applied.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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RE: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread John Coyle
My photography is a mix of both.  I always carry a camera on my morning (or
evening) walk,  and usually carry just one lens.  So a large proportion of
the images coming from those walks are found images.  But, if I see
something that demands more attention, I will revisit with the appropriate
gear and spend more time on it.  Probably then I'm 'making' my photos.
For big family occasions (hatchings, matchings and other celebrations,
including on one occasion a wake!) I will plan to take a full complement of
gear: it's likely I will need  to cover wide to long focal lengths, as the
light changes I may need flash for fill-in or prime lighting.  When shooting
film, I will usually have 400ASA film to ensure I can cover all natural
light conditions and deal with fast-moving children, who seem to comprise a
lot of my subjects nowadays.   So I guess those are planned shooting
situations, but where some shots will be spontaneous and therefore not
'made'.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: finding pictures or making pictures?

While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen
minutes to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I
realized that the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding photos"
rather than "making photos" where I set out with a particular idea planned
out.

I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan,
versus just going out and seeing what they find.

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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 01:35:16PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love my Le Cruset 
> cookware.
. . .
> Not only does it have all the advantages of cast iron for cooking, but I've 
> found the surface to be easier to clean and more durable than either teflon 
> or calphalon.

I'm not a purist, so I clean my pans in the dishwasher.  It doesn't get much 
easier than that.
I wasn't too impressed by Calphalon, but several years ago I switched to using 
Anolon Advanced
(some stainless steel, some hard-anodized aluminium), and I'm still happy with 
that decision.

But this is another one of those personal decisions.  For me, the cost/benefit 
ratio is about
right at the price point I chose ($50 - $100 for a typical mid-range pan). But 
I can quite
see that for some people that's pretty expensive, while for other people the 
high-end stuff
(copper saute pans, etc.) is worth the nosebleed prices.


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Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?

2011-01-31 Thread Sam L
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> I think several responders lost sight of the fact that the original
> poster is shooting with film.
>
> I also think that most shooting logs (like Kenny-boy's three versions:
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/exposure-log.htm ) leave off an
> important part of the equation (if learning is your goal). That is the
> METER'S RECOMMENDED EXPOSURE. If you are shooting every shot with the
> meter's recommended exposure, then you haven't learned the basics of
> photography yet. To truly learn, one should record the meter's
> recommended exposure and then how much you over or under exposed (and
> why). The same is true when evaluating other's shots. While the
> shutter speed, aperture and ISO provide some useful information, it is
> not as useful as knowing also what the meter's recommended exposure
> was for that scene (and metering mode).


True.  Obviously when I shoot with the K-x, the camera records the
ap/shutter etc for me.

And Igor those are good examples of good things to learn from the
photo settings.

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Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?

2011-01-31 Thread Sam L
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> You might also look for a database manager. I see a couple that look
> promising for this kind of stuff. I just downloaded "General DB" and
> will start experimenting with it. There's also "FM Go" from FileMaker
> that looks interesting.
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Thanks Godfrey,

I'll give those a look, too.


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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:09 PM, William Robb wrote:

> On 31/01/2011 7:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
> 
> or, most taxing of all, shoot 20 cars in three days, with full sets of low 
> angle and high angle pics, front and rear, 7/8 and 3/4, profiles, engines 
> from two sides, and several interior wide angles. That tends to be somewhat 
> tedious, but it pays some bills/
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> Taxing, but I bet you have a gas doing it.
> I didn't do very much car as product photography, but I did shoot a lot of 
> Harley Davidson as product.
> For some reason, I always ended up doing babe on bike stuff, which would be 
> several levels of good taste and class below what you describe (but also fun).
> 
I enjoy shooting one or two cars. But one car after another for eight to ten 
hours a day isn't much fun. I'd much rather shoot babes on bikes:-).
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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Ann Sanfedele



John Sessoms wrote:


From: Larry Colen



More often than not, I don't find what I'm looking for, but sometimes 
I find something else.




Alas that's what happens to me when I'm shopping in thrift stores :-)
ann



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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Larry Colen wrote:


While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen minutes to kill, so I went 
for a short photo walk. On my way back, I realized that the fast majority of my photography is 
mostly "finding photos" rather than "making photos" where I set out with a 
particular idea planned out.

I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
versus just going out and seeing what they find.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

 

I can count on one hand the number of times I've planned to take a 
particular shot - except, of course, for taking shots of stuff
I need to sell or specific assignments for hire, which I don't like to 
do but will if I have to.  

But   if I go to the zoo with my camera, I'm expecting to take  photos 
of birds and/or  beasts  but nothing more than that.


If I travelled to southeast Utah I expected to come back with majestic 
buttes , big sky, pretty cactus... and tumbledown ghost towns

because thats what's there that I like.

Don't often wait for shots - but have gone back to a place to get 
something that I saw and missed  because something wasn't quite right.


These days I don't always carry a serious camera with me, but I do 
always put the P&S in my pocket just in case...  I"d like to take
the ist D with me every day , everytime I go out, because you never 
know  depends on how much heavy stuff I have to carry

home from the grocers

ann
 





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Re: PAW56 - Snow

2011-01-31 Thread Christine Aguila
I think this photo works because there's great balance with the clouds and 
the slope of snow.  I like it, DagT.  Cheers, Christine



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http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA*50-135@135mm 1/800s, f/7.1, ISO200

DagT
http://www.thrane.name/

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
I had both the A50 2.8 and the FA100 2.8.  The 100 was sharper but the
A50 was so light and easy to carry that I was more likely to have it
with me.  My macro stuff was usually on the wander.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:41 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Glen Berry
>>
>> I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have
>> an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and
>> took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about
>> $100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen
>> along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the
>> thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)
>>
>> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
>> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>>
>> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
>> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
>>
>> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
>>
>> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
>> lens?
>>
>> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>>
>>
>
> I wouldn't ignore the manual focus Pentax Macro lenses. I have the smc
> PENTAX-A MACRO 1:2.8 100mm and am fairly pleased with it.
>
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Re: PAW Week 3

2011-01-31 Thread Christine Aguila

You know, Paul Stenquist is a U of C grad.  Cheers, Christine


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I am, so is my husband.  And we are still members of the Co-op!
We both spent a lot of time in those bookstores... more time than
money, as poor students back then.  I knew at least a couple of
students who would camp out in the Seminary Co-op, reading books off
the shelf for class, without ever buying.  I don't think anyone
minded...

:)
-c

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:

Neato, Christine. Are you a U of C graduate? Cheers, Christine from
Chicago


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Subject: Re: PAW Week 3


I remember O'Gara's. And Powell's. I'm can't remember if either is
still there... I hear the Seminary Coop is moving. Hard to imagine,
really. I stopped in last spring:
http://www.crapmanagement.com/2010/06/at-co-op.html

:)
-c



On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:


Thanks Everyone! Much appreciated. We both know well the Seminary Co-op
Bookstore in Hyde Park. Darrel, as a young man, worked at O'Gara's in 
Hyde
Park. Later he and a partner started Aspidistra Bookshop on the north 
side

of Chicago. They were in business for about 25 years, but then the used
book store scene crashed in the city.

Cheers, Christine




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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: PAW Week 3


My first thought: do you know the Seminary Co-op Bookstore in Hyde
Park? It looks like he has moved in over there...!

Love it. What a great "environmental portrait"!

:)
-c



change up my daily routines which will get me off that *bloody gerbil
wheel*--round and round from home to work and back again. Cheers,
Christine


Click the picture to see it bigger.
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Re: PAW Week 4

2011-01-31 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, everyone!  Much appreciated.  Big cheers, Christine


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Christine Aguila wrote:

Kinda proud of this one.  There's a little bonus picture there if you
scroll
down ;-)  Big cheers, Christine

http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/



What a super portrait! Fantastic lighting and you got everything else 
right

too. Proudness justified.

Chris



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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Sandy Harris
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Glen Berry  wrote:

> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>
> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

A friend has a K20D with the 35 macro as his main lens. He uses
it both for product shots used for his web-based business and as
a general-purpose 50-equivalent walking around lens, and loves it.
If he did not have the battery grip, it would make a nice compact
walking around package. His only other lens is a 50/1.4.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 020 & 021 - GDG

2011-01-31 Thread William Robb

On 31/01/2011 7:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Two new additions for PESO 2011 are now available for viewing, both in the 
"Communicating" series:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5404222395/lightbox/


This one is classic.
Well done.

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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread Christine Aguila


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On 30/1/11, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:


If a good photographer can overcome bad equipment, why is it such a leap
of logic that better equipment may well help a mediocre photographer to
take better pictures?
How about better equipment making the process easier/more pleasurable?
If the camera "just works better", then would it not make better
pictures no matter what class of photographer is pushing the button?

If equipment didn't matter, St. Ansel would probably have used a Minolta
110 since it would have been easier to hump it around Yosemite.


Totally agree.


Me too.  Totally agree.  When one has to fight with their tools during the 
creative process, it sucks and it's miserable.  To me equipment matters. 
I've been sewing since I was 13, and I can tell you I used a lot of crappy 
sewing machines when I was younger.  When I could afford better machines, my 
garments and textile projects improved, and I was happier, and I wanted to 
sew more.  With respect to photography, the K20D & K-7 are not the cameras 
for the "under the el tracks" photo story I want to do.  They are too noisy. 
But I think the K-5 would work.  It's a better camera--especially for a 
project like this.  Good tools matter, and sometimes certain creative 
projects are tool-specific.  Cheers, Christine 



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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread William Robb

On 31/01/2011 7:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:




 or, most taxing of all, shoot 20 cars in three days, with full sets of 
low angle and high angle pics, front and rear, 7/8 and 3/4, profiles, 
engines from two sides, and several interior wide angles. That tends to 
be somewhat tedious, but it pays some bills/


Paul


Taxing, but I bet you have a gas doing it.
I didn't do very much car as product photography, but I did shoot a lot 
of Harley Davidson as product.
For some reason, I always ended up doing babe on bike stuff, which would 
be several levels of good taste and class below what you describe (but 
also fun).


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Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:26 -0600, "Charles Robinson" 
wrote:
> It's late January, and for St. Paul that means "Winter Carnival".
> 
> We took the grandson out to the State Fairgrounds to look at the snow
> sculpture competition.  Perfect weather (about 20F with sun) meant you
> didn't have to worry about finding shelter after only a few minutes of
> looking around.  Some years, it's just plain dangerous to go outside to
> see these.  Seriously!
> 
> One of the "crowd favorites", although I don't know how it did in the
> final judging:
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/winter_carnival/content/IMGP7700_large.html
> 


Now that is just bizarre!

Sitting in my 'office' to escape the 41 deg C heat outside, I'm really
appreciating seeing all of these winter shots



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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread William Robb

On 31/01/2011 7:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


You can re-season cast iron. In fact, if you really screw up the
seasoning on a cast iron pan, one of the steps to re-seasoning is to
burn the old seasoning off to give you a uniform surface for re-seasoning.



I found a Lodge omelette skillet in the basement of a house I was renoing.
Coated in dry crusty grease embedded with decades of filth, and under 
that a coating of Lord knows what, for sure the glue from the label 
hadn't been removed.
I ended up sanding it with a random orbital sander and then ran it 
through my gas oven's cleaning cycle.

It's now in daily use cooking everything egg skillet.


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Re: PAW56 - Snow

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 00:30 +0100, "DagT"  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K-5, DA*50-135@135mm 1/800s, f/7.1, ISO200 
> 
> DagT
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> 


That's about as minimalist as it's possible to get - unless the sky
happened to be cloudless :-)>

I really like it. I can't point to any specific reason. It just seems to
work.


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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Christine Aguila
It depends what I'm shooting.  Photowalks are seldom planned.  I just pick 
spot, wander around, see what I can find.  Travel is probably 50/50.  When 
traveling, sometimes there are certain sites I want to photograph & I do, 
but then I also wander around and find things, which is part of the spirit 
of travel anyway.  Outings are little different.  I try to find the story in 
the outing--turn it into a photo story.  Sometimes it works out, sometimes 
not.  A couple of years ago, I shot the cross-town game of the Cubs & Sox at 
Wrigley field & I knew the kind of shots I wanted to go for.  I was able to 
anticipate what I would probably see.  Last year when I shot the cross-town 
game at Sox park, I didn't know what to expect because I wasn't that 
familiar with the area, the energy and activity, and I was discombobulated 
and the pictures suffered, the photo story suffered, but having that 
experience was good; I learned from it.  Next time I'll be more flexible to 
make adjustments--see differently more quickly--recognize the unexpected 
story more quickly--hopefully, anyway.  The theater shoot last August was 
mostly planned.  I made sure I saw the play before the shoot and picked the 
dramatic scenes and I worked with the director as well.  The construction 
story, which is nearly finished, is often planned.  When I can get down 
there, usually I am going to shoot some specific moment in the construction 
process, but you have to keep your eye open for the unexpected as well. 
I've learned so much during this shoot--mostly because I made so many 
mistakes :-).


I think my favorite part of photography is arriving on a site then 
immediately launching into assessing the situation.  I love trying to find 
the energy, the groove, the patterns, the colors, the shapes, the 
people--identify that which I might have planned for, anticipated.  Then the 
camera rises to the left of my nose, and I try to begin capturing the story. 
When I'm in practice, it's like breathing--it comes so naturally and the 
next thing I know I'm in the zone.  But when I'm out of practice, ugh, it's 
ugly, and I'm clumsy, and I'm usually on my way home much sooner than I 
anticipated having thrown in the towel to defeat.  I can also become 
overwhelmed by a shooting situation to the point where I can't settle down, 
can't get focused--I'm just shooting aimlessly.  I hate that.  Makes me feel 
like a frame grabber as opposed to a thoughtful photographer.  But it does 
happen to me, though less then it used to, thank the gods.


So, it depends what I'm shooting.  Different strategies for different 
shooting situations. In the end though, I would say that the best 
photography comes out of good planning AND an eye for the unexpected.


Cheers, Chrisitne




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While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen 
minutes to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I 
realized that the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding 
photos" rather than "making photos" where I set out with a particular idea 
planned out.


I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
versus just going out and seeing what they find.


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Re: Peso's Scugog Blacksmith Shop

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:37 -0500, "David J Brooks" 
wrote:
> Hey gang.
> 
> The SO and I went to the casino in Part Parry over Christmas (I won)
> and there is a small museum on the way.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12481152
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12481172
> 
> K10D D AF 50-200 LR conversion. It was very dull out that day.
> 


I like the second one best but could do with a contrast nudge, as others
have said.



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RE: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Glen Berry

I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have
an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and
took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about
$100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen
along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the
thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)

Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
between getting one of these new macro lenses:

Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
lens?

Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?




I wouldn't ignore the manual focus Pentax Macro lenses. I have the smc 
PENTAX-A MACRO 1:2.8 100mm and am fairly pleased with it.




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PESO

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Blakely
Just a quick shot of a birthday gift for my daughter...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=53125&id=10539506680&l=740b513c54

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RE: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I would recommend the 50mm, specifically the smcA f2,8

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That's why I like the 100mm macros.  DFA100/2.8 is nice.  A100/2.8 is an old
favorite. Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Cory Waters  wrote:
> I have the DA 35 macro.
> It's sharp.  It's well built.  It's pretty.  I don't use it much. I do 
> wish it had a little more reach.  I find that getting the object big 
> enough in the viewfinder means I've got to get *really* close.  Not so 
> great for spiders.  Doing "human zoom" with this lens, I actually 
> walked it right into the moss on the tree...
>
> CW
>
> On 1/31/2011 5:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to 
>> have an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a 
>> tank, and took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop 
>> for only about $100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that 
>> lens got stolen along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. 
>> God, how I wish the thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens 
>> instead! :)
>>
>> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
>> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>>
>> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
>> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
>>
>> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
>>
>> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only 
>> macro lens?
>>
>> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Glen
>>
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PESO 2011 - 020 & 021 - GDG

2011-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Two new additions for PESO 2011 are now available for viewing, both in the 
"Communicating" series:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5404222395/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5404249085/lightbox/

(Take "lightbox/" off the end of the above links if you have trouble viewing 
them.)

The "Communicating 2011" set top page is available at
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625844414410/
if you want to see the series as a whole. 

Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. 

Godfrey


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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
My approach varies. Sometimes I'll just go for a walk with nothing in mind, 
although I'm more likely to shoot people than abstractions or architecture. 
Other times I'll go to the nature center to shot critters or to the coffee shop 
with an eye toward shooting portraits.  Then there are those hard and fast 
assignments: from pubs: shoot an employee at a company, an executive delivering 
a speech, or, most taxing of all, shoot 20 cars in three days, with full sets 
of low angle and high angle pics, front and rear, 7/8 and 3/4, profiles, 
engines from two sides, and several interior wide angles. That tends to be 
somewhat tedious, but it pays some bills/

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RE: Standards, They Exist for a Reason

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Blakely
No doubt you are right, but, worst comes to worst, if it can act just like a
comm port, I can transfer and/or control ANYTHING - and I have with comm
ports. It's all about how MY software at both ends, interprets it. Comm port
drivers are already available. Now it doesn't have to be a comm. port driver
that's used. Hell, if we can transfer bitmaps that'll work too. A TColor
object is just another word for an __int32 word. If I control the meaning of
both sides of the interface, i.e. the camera & the camera operating
software, the bits in that TColor pixel mean whatever I damn well want them
to mean.

I'd send you some examples, but what I have was written to control test
equipment for cellular site technical evaluations. Point is, I didn't write
drivers. I simply used drivers that were already available for purposes
other than for what they were intended. The transport equipment & software
(including drivers) didn't care what data was being transmitted.

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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 3:52 PM

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Robert Blakely  wrote:
> Data is data & packets is packets. The writer gets to determine what's in
> the packets & how to use that information.

That's my nomination for the "just about pure nonsense" quotation of
the day on PDML.
Remind me not to hire you to develop a USB driver.


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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, eckinator wrote:


does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the
empty LC every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it
very well.

Is that a serious hint or a joke?  I don't know how hot pyrolytic
cleaning gets.

My oven is an old wedgewood gas oven, that was no longer new when my
folks bought the house in '73. It certainly doesn't have any self
cleaning capabilities.



It's hot enough to burn the non-stick coating if the pan has one, 
releasing poisonous fumes.


It will also burn the seasoning off a cast iron pan, but won't warp the 
cast iron unless it's a really cheap pan.


You can re-season cast iron. In fact, if you really screw up the 
seasoning on a cast iron pan, one of the steps to re-seasoning is to 
burn the old seasoning off to give you a uniform surface for re-seasoning.



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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-01-31 19:58, John Sessoms wrote:

I usually have at least some vague idea of the kind of images I want
before I go out looking for them. I wouldn't call it anything as formal
as a plan.

More often than not, I don't find what I'm looking for, but sometimes I
find something else.


At the race track, which is where I usually shoot, it's a matter of 
knowing where the commonplace happens and the extraordinary is most 
likely.  But sometimes Fate confounds you.  At the 2009 Petit le Mans, 
Scott Sharp had a spectacular wreck (and amazingly walked away) at Road 
Atlanta's Turn Two, which is usually just about the most boring place on 
the track.  Unless something happens in Turn One and some of it slides 
far enough up the hill.


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RE: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen
minutes to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I
realized that the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding
photos" rather than "making photos" where I set out with a particular
idea planned out.

I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough
plan, versus just going out and seeing what they find.


A bit of both for me.

I usually have at least some vague idea of the kind of images I want 
before I go out looking for them. I wouldn't call it anything as formal 
as a plan.


More often than not, I don't find what I'm looking for, but sometimes I 
find something else.



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Re: PESO - Puff, the Bearded Dragon

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:58 -0500, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:

> I like the second shot  this one
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Bearded-Dragon1.jpg
> 
> - he's adorable!...


He is, isn't he!  And 'puff' is a good name for him - he puffs himself
up when alarmed, probably trying to make himself look even scarier to
predators.


>  but I cant make visual sense out of the first one...  Don't know how 
> else to express it



Yes, it's an unusual view but I liked the way he blended into his
surroundings.  They have excellent camouflage.

Thanks to all who looked and/or commented (and Dave, thanks for the
warning - I'll keep it in mind should I ever meet Cotty personally)



Cheers

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> > 
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> >G'day all
> >
> >This guy has been hanging around in our backyard for the past few days.
> >
> >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP9483peso.html
> >
> >
> >He/she looks a bit fierce but bearded dragons are harmless enough
> >(unless you stick your finger near its mouth).
> >
> >
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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: Steven Desjardins

You should just spend your money on better pans.


Funny you should mention that; a new commercial grade stock pot
is on my short list.

Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love my
Le Cruset cookware. It is enameled cast iron. The trick is to find an
outlet store which starts out with better prices than list, plus the
more pieces you buy, the bigger the discount you get, so go there
with a friend or two, so you can combine your purchases to get a
bigger discount.  The closest one to me is in Gilroy, and totally
worth the drive.

Not only does it have all the advantages of cast iron for cooking,
but I've found the surface to be easier to clean and more durable
than either teflon or calphalon.



I got a Le Creuset omelette pan from the PX at Ft. Bragg in 2005. I've 
never seen another like it and there's a couple of Le Creuset outlet 
stores reasonably near my home.


It's enameled cast iron with some kind of non-stick coating on the 
inside. Looks sort of like this one but the transition from the bottom 
to the side doesn't have the obvious break this one shows. Mine has a 
smooth curve.


http://www.lecreuset.co.uk/Product-Range-uk/Cast-Iron-Cookware/Frying-Pans/Omelette-Pan-20cm/

Even though it's non-stick, I always use butter and keep the heat down. 
Makes an omelette slide around better so it's easier to flip.


I also have a really good Lodge 12" cast iron skillet with lid. No 
coating, but it's also non-stick if you know what you're doing.


I've got a stock pot, but I'm not satisfied with the quality. I'm 
looking at one suitable for a commercial kitchen.


And at some point in the future, I'd like to replace my current electric 
stove with a gas range.



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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Ken Waller


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Subject: Re: Which Macro Lens?



2011/2/1 Ken Waller :


Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?



Yep. The Pentax SMC A* 200mm f4.0 ED Macro - about as good as they get !

Longer is better - gives you more room to work - especially good with 
little

creatures.


too bad it costs about 8 times as much used as its canon FD equivalent... 
=(


So I could buy a Canon equivalent for $250?

I've had Nikon pros wanting to see mine because they've heard so much about 
it.

One called it legendary.


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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:

> I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have an 
> older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and took 
> very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about $100, 
> which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen along with the 
> camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the thieves had stolen 
> my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)
> 
> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide between 
> getting one of these new macro lenses:
> 
> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
> 
> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
> 
> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro lens?
> 
> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
> 
The Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 is an excellent lens. I'm talking about the 
original version with the optical adapter for 1:1 capability. It's metal and 
built like a tank. Very sharp and beautiful bokeh. It was produced in the early 
to mid 1970s I believe, so of course it's a manual focus lens. But that's not 
much of a handicap with macro, where pinpoint focus is generally called for. 
You can usually find the K-mount version for $200 or so.
Paul
> 
> thanks,
> Glen
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Darren Addy
My two cents is that autofocus is for wussies. Autofocus on a macro is
for really silly wussies.

I think the operative question is what KIND of macro you shoot. Both
35mm and 50mm are going to put you very close to the object being
photographed. If it is a live thing that can get spooked and move
away, then neither of them will do the job and you need a longer
macro. I've got an S-M-C 50mm Macro f4, which I like very much. Also a
Tamron SP 90mm Macro f2.5 (1:2 without extender/tc) and a Vivitar
Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Bokina) with matching teleconverter (1:2/1:1) -
all manual focus. Together they cost me less than half the price of
the DA 35mm Macro (although images taken with that lens are very
fetching).

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:40 -0500, "Ken Waller" 
wrote:
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glen Berry" 
> Subject: Which Macro Lens?
> 
> 
> > I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have an 
> > older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and took 
> > very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about $100, 
> > which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen along with 
> > the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the thieves had 
> > stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)
> >
> > Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
> > between getting one of these new macro lenses:
> >
> > Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
> > Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
> >
> > Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
> >
> > Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro 
> > lens?
> >
> > Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
> 
> 
> Yep. The Pentax SMC A* 200mm f4.0 ED Macro - about as good as they get !
> 
> Longer is better - gives you more room to work - especially good with
> little 
> creatures.


I agree.  I have an old Macro Takumar 50 mm, a Tamron 90mm and a Konica
Hexanon 55 mm Macro (which, surprisingly, mounts to K mount via an
extension tube) but the Tamron is the one I use most.  The extra working
distance is a great benefit.  It's also faster than the others and it's
an excellent lens.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Nick David Wright
The few times I've tried to actively plan a photo the results have
been horrible.

I like to just wander about and see what develops!

~Nick

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen minutes 
> to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I realized that 
> the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding photos" rather than 
> "making photos" where I set out with a particular idea planned out.
>
> I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
> versus just going out and seeing what they find.
>
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread William Robb

On 31/01/2011 5:42 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

That's why I like the 100mm macros.  DFA100/2.8 is nice.  A100/2.8 is
an old favorite.


As much as I like my A100/2.8 macro, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone 
who shoots digital.

It is very prone to picking up sensor reflections.

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Re: Standards, They Exist for a Reason

2011-01-31 Thread William Robb




On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Robert Blakely  wrote:

I'm currently pissed at PEXTAX corp.




You should probably join PentaxForums then.

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
2011/2/1 Ken Waller :
>>
>> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>
>
> Yep. The Pentax SMC A* 200mm f4.0 ED Macro - about as good as they get !
>
> Longer is better - gives you more room to work - especially good with little
> creatures.

too bad it costs about 8 times as much used as its canon FD equivalent... =(

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Re: OT Making LR presets in Develop mode

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 4:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> "And" anyone who figures out how to do it is going to make a WHOLE LOT of 
> money.
> 
> I mean a "whole lot of money" like the universe is "big"
> 
> "Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in 
> fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real 'wow, that's 
> big', time. Infinity is just so big that by comparison, bigness itself looks 
> really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly 
> huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here."
> 
> I want to be one of the original investors.

My dad had this poem taped to his computer monitor:

I really hate this damn machine,
I think that I will sell it.
It never does just what I want, 
but only what I tell it.


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Re: OT Making LR presets in Develop mode

2011-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
"And" anyone who figures out how to do it is going to make a WHOLE LOT 
of money.


I mean a "whole lot of money" like the universe is "big"

"Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that 
in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real 'wow, 
that's big', time. Infinity is just so big that by comparison, bigness 
itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied 
by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across 
here."


I want to be one of the original investors.

From: "P. J. Alling"

and?

On 1/31/2011 4:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> I don't want it to read my mind, I just want it to do what I want it
> to do instead of what I told it to do.
>
> From: "P. J. Alling"

>> I'm not sure that anyone would want their computer reading their mind.
>> That is assuming that they have one.
>>
>> On 1/31/2011 3:18 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

>>> > From: Don Guthrie

 >> Darn computers - they do exactly what we tell them to - not what

 we want

 >> them to do.
 >>

>>> >
>>> > Let me know if you ever find a solution to that problem. I'm looking
>>> > for a sure-fire investment opportunity, and that would be the Killer
>>> > App to end all killer apps.



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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-01-31 4:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen minutes to kill, so I went 
for a short photo walk. On my way back, I realized that the fast majority of my photography is 
mostly "finding photos" rather than "making photos" where I set out with a 
particular idea planned out.

I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
versus just going out and seeing what they find.


I'd guess maybe 60% pre-planned vs 40% found shots.  For sure, with my 
"lighting" shots (anything with flash and/or modifiers), I already have 
a pretty solid plan already.


If I find later that a few of my found shots are related in any way then 
I declare them to part of a theme and that makes them seem more planned. :-)


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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-01-31 6:33 PM, Cory Waters wrote:

I have the DA 35 macro.
It's sharp.  It's well built.  It's pretty.  I don't use it much.
I do wish it had a little more reach.  I find that getting the object 
big enough in the viewfinder means I've got to get *really* close.  
Not so great for spiders.  Doing "human zoom" with this lens, I 
actually walked it right into the moss on the tree...


CW


That 'really close' thing is also an issue with using the ring flash. I 
got the AF-160 to use with the 35 and I've had situations where the 
object was actually inside the ring-flash's mount. I solved that by 
putting a sheet of white paper beyond the subject where the flash would 
bounce off it. That happened in this shot ...


http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/3357489158/lightbox/

So yeah, mostly useless for bugs. Live or undrugged ones anyway.

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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen minutes 
> to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I realized that 
> the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding photos" rather than 
> "making photos" where I set out with a particular idea planned out.
>
> I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
> versus just going out and seeing what they find.

Combination of both. I usually have a few ideas in mind when I head
out the door and focus on finding and making exposures that those
ideas frame, but at the same time there's nothing negative about being
opportunistic and making exposures of things that catch my attention.
The key thing is not to be distracted by opportunistic shooting so
much that it gets in the way of finding and making exposures that fit
the idea I started out with. However, if it turns out my interest
isn't really there in the first place OR the situations I was looking
for aren't happening on that session, it's good that something else
found my attention so I have something to work with when I return to
my desk.
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Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?

2011-01-31 Thread Igor Roshchin



With respect to the original question, - I wonder if one can
just take a photo of the scene with iPhone and attach a note/voice memo
to that.


2011/1/30 Bob W :
>
> To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information
> down
> after the event, and especially why they publish this information with
> their
> pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked
> at a
> photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and
> I've
> no idea what to do with the information when people provide it.
>

It doesn't happen too often, but such occasions happen time to time:
1. I'd like to figure out what shutter speed was used to either freeze or
blur the motion to get the effect seen in the photo.
Some examples: waterfalls, water splash, dancer's motion blur -
to know what is the critical value of the shutter speed.

2. I'd like to figure out what aperture provides reasonable DOF for
practical situations that I encounter on the dance floor.
Or I'd like to see what aperture provides enough separation between
the foreground and the background, or what aperture is needed to 
have both in a reasonable focus at the same time.



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Re: Standards, They Exist for a Reason

2011-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Robert Blakely  wrote:
> Data is data & packets is packets. The writer gets to determine what's in
> the packets & how to use that information.

That's my nomination for the "just about pure nonsense" quotation of
the day on PDML.
Remind me not to hire you to develop a USB driver.
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-01-31 5:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to 
have an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a 
tank, and took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for 
only about $100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens 
got stolen along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, 
how I wish the thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)


Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
between getting one of these new macro lenses:


Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8


I have the DA35 and I love it. It's seen a lot of use, starting on my 
K100Ds. You can see a collection of my shots with it here ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/tags/smcpda35mmf28/

You'll see that I use it for street and live music as well as macro.




Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?


I have no experience with the 50. The 35 is extremely sharp. If you need 
more convincing of that, Mike Johnston gushes about it here ...

http://photo.net/columns/mjohnston/pentax-35mm-lens/optical-discussion/




Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only 
macro lens?


I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again, but if I shot bugs or other small 
stuff I need to be further from, I'd probably want something up in the 
100mm range. I wouldn't bother going with the 50mm; for me that's 
neither wide enough nor long enough (eg bugs), and I already have 50-ish 
mm covered for general purpose glass.





Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?


My wish-list has the D FA 100mm F2.8 WR on it.

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
That's why I like the 100mm macros.  DFA100/2.8 is nice.  A100/2.8 is
an old favorite.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Cory Waters  wrote:
> I have the DA 35 macro.
> It's sharp.  It's well built.  It's pretty.  I don't use it much.
> I do wish it had a little more reach.  I find that getting the object big
> enough in the viewfinder means I've got to get *really* close.  Not so great
> for spiders.  Doing "human zoom" with this lens, I actually walked it right
> into the moss on the tree...
>
> CW
>
> On 1/31/2011 5:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have
>> an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and
>> took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about
>> $100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen
>> along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the
>> thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead! :)
>>
>> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
>> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>>
>> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
>> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
>>
>> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
>>
>> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
>> lens?
>>
>> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Glen
>>
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: "Glen Berry" 

Subject: Which Macro Lens?


I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have an 
older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and took 
very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about $100, 
which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen along with 
the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the thieves had 
stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)


Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
between getting one of these new macro lenses:


Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro 
lens?


Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?



Yep. The Pentax SMC A* 200mm f4.0 ED Macro - about as good as they get !

Longer is better - gives you more room to work - especially good with little 
creatures.



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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Cory Waters

I have the DA 35 macro.
It's sharp.  It's well built.  It's pretty.  I don't use it much.
I do wish it had a little more reach.  I find that getting the object 
big enough in the viewfinder means I've got to get *really* close.  Not 
so great for spiders.  Doing "human zoom" with this lens, I actually 
walked it right into the moss on the tree...


CW

On 1/31/2011 5:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:

I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have
an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and
took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about
$100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen
along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the
thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead! :)

Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
between getting one of these new macro lenses:

Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
lens?

Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?


thanks,
Glen



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Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread kwaller


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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed




On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:


It's late January, and for St. Paul that means "Winter Carnival".

We took the grandson out to the State Fairgrounds to look at the snow 
sculpture competition.  Perfect weather (about 20F with sun) meant you 
didn't have to worry about finding shelter after only a few minutes of 
looking around.  Some years, it's just plain dangerous to go outside to 
see these.  Seriously!


One of the "crowd favorites", although I don't know how it did in the 
final judging:


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/winter_carnival/content/IMGP7700_large.html



A nice photo of a great sculpture.  I expect that there was something 
obtrusive just above it that you were cropping? Or was that as far back as 
you could get with your widest lens?


Probably needs a better lens !


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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:48 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Do your lenses pout often?  Do you think they might need counseling?

Probably,but they don't speak to each other

Dave
>
> On 1/31/2011 5:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Glen Berry  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
>>> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>>>
>>> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
>>
>> I have the one above. I cannot compare it to the 35 as i do not own
>> one, but once i had pentax "match" the 50 to m,y K10D the sharpness
>> just oozed pout from it.
>> I would highly recommend it.
>> One nit, the clamp switch has never really worked well since i bought
>> it, however i had reached my limit on sending lenses and cameras to
>> Pentax for repairs and adjustments, so i just live with it.,
>>
>> Dave
>>>
>>> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
>>>
>>> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
>>>
>>> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
>>> lens?
>>>
>>> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Glen
>>>
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Re: Bolt-holes

2011-01-31 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

Subject: RE: Bolt-holes



>> > I've added 4 snaps to my Recent Photos page:
>> > http://www.web-options.com/Recent/

[...]

> I most certainly did not. I have no talent for composition, still-
life
> etc.,
> but I can spot it when I see it.

You probably need better equipment.


Are you the person who keeps sending me emails about getting a bigger 
tool?


Well, bigger is better isn't it?   ; +  )


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RE: Standards, They Exist for a Reason

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Blakely
Data is data & packets is packets. The writer gets to determine what's in
the packets & how to use that information.

Bob...
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I don't mind if you don't like my manners.
I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad.
I grieve over them on long winter evenings.
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-Original Message-
From: DiGiorgi
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:28 PM

What standards are you talking about?

While the "Universal Serial Bus" might be a standard, control of a
camera device is far from a standard. USB is a bus protocol standard
and has nothing to do with controlling a camera. Wrong layer of the
infrastructure. Camera control software connecting over the USB port
needs a customized USB device driver to work.

I can empathize with your frustration (Olympus does little better in
regard to tethered camera control, even Nikon and Canon have their
issues), but pointing to the USB standard and calling foul is pretty
similar to yelling at a mechanic for a flat tire when the last thing
he did on your car, two months ago, was change the windshield wipers
and top up the oil.


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Robert Blakely  wrote:
> I'm currently pissed at PEXTAX corp.
>
> After a hiatus due to severe injury, I decided to go out with my buddies
to
> (outside) Anza, CA to image the stars. I really don't have the many
> Benjamins to spend on an astro camera so do this with my K20D and I use
the
> PENTAX Remote Assistant to do this. Fine. Now during the hiatus, I
upgraded
> my computers to Windows 7. Well, it seems that the Remote Assistant will
> only work up through Vista!!! PENTAX has no plans to upgrade this software
> and all their cameras after the K20D will not offer fully remote
> operation!!! So much for the company of compatibility. Welcome to the
> company of decreasing capability.
>
> Now this is a USB connection. There are standards. If the folks that wrote
> the software had kept this in mind when writing the interface, there would
> be no compatibility problem.
>
> FYI, this feature is useful not just for astrophotography, but also
medical
> imaging, Industrial imaging, surveillance imaging and many other imaging
> uses where automated remote operation is immensely a useful and necessary.
>
> I am considering dumping all my (considerable) Pentax equipment and
> converting to (probably) Nikon. At least the functionality I need will
> always be there as I upgrade - not only the camera equipment but also my
> necessary ancillary equipment.
>
> Call me pissed in California.


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RE: Standards, They Exist for a Reason

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Blakely
Yup. No go.

Bob...
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-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:19 PM

On 29 January 2011 09:15, Robert Blakely  wrote:
> Did that. No go.

It's a lot more screwing about but have you tried VirtualBox
http://www.virtualbox.org/ and an old windows installation on top of
W7?


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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:

> I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have an 
> older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and took 
> very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about $100, 
> which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen along with the 
> camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the thieves had stolen 
> my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)
> 
> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide between 
> getting one of these new macro lenses:
> 
> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
> 
> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
> 
> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro lens?
> 
> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?

I find several things to be a factor when doing macro work:

How close can I get?
How far away can I get?
How much background do I want to show?

If you want to show more background, get a wider lens and shoot from closer.  
If you want to isolate the subject, get a longer lens and shoot from further 
away.

The other question to consider is what focal lengths do you already have?

I have the D-FA 50/2.8 and use it fairly frequently.  I want the DA 35/2.8 
macro because I think it would be close to the ideal lens for photowalks in the 
woods.

When I don't need 1:1 macro, and want to show the backgrounds, I use my sigma 
20/1.8.  A lot of my mushroom shots were done with it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5183450266/in/set-72157625225151443/

I'm also borrowing Sasha's tamron 90/2.8 which I really like.


> 
> 
> thanks,
> Glen
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
The only /true/ macro lens I own is the Vivitar Series 1 Flat Field 
90-180mm.  I don't think I've ever taken a "macro" photograph with it at 
90mm.  The longer the better I say, so I'd go for the D FA 50mm if that 
were my only choice.  However I think I'd actually be looking for an A 
100mm f4.0, more affordable, and better manual focusing and longer.  
Autofocus in Macro is over rated.


On 1/31/2011 5:36 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to 
have an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a 
tank, and took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for 
only about $100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens 
got stolen along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, 
how I wish the thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)


Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
between getting one of these new macro lenses:


Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only 
macro lens?


Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?


thanks,
Glen




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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling

Do your lenses pout often?  Do you think they might need counseling?

On 1/31/2011 5:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Glen Berry  wrote:


Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
between getting one of these new macro lenses:

Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8

I have the one above. I cannot compare it to the 35 as i do not own
one, but once i had pentax "match" the 50 to m,y K10D the sharpness
just oozed pout from it.
I would highly recommend it.
One nit, the clamp switch has never really worked well since i bought
it, however i had reached my limit on sending lenses and cameras to
Pentax for repairs and adjustments, so i just live with it.,

Dave

Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
lens?

Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?


thanks,
Glen

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RE: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Blakely
I would buy an SMCA 50/2.8 Macro. But that's me. I prefer manual focus for
the very little macro work that I do.

Bob...

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I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad.
I grieve over them on long winter evenings.
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-Original Message-
From: Glen Berry
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:37 PM


I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have 
an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and 
took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about 
$100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen 
along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the 
thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)

Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
between getting one of these new macro lenses:

Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro 
lens?

Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?


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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Glen Berry
Lately, most of my photos are loosely planned. I'll typically know the 
subject, theme, and location. I'll usually know some other details as 
well. However, I'll frequently have to improvise a bit, once it's time 
to start shooting. Sometimes circumstances will force me to revise my 
plans at the last moment. Other times, unforeseen opportunities will 
present themselves during shooting. Because of such uncertainties, I 
don't often try to plan my images in intricate detail.



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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
I have a DFA 50 for sale, checked and microfocus adjusted by Pentax,
doubt I can beat eBay US for price though... =(
Cheers
Ecke

2011/1/31 Glen Berry :
> I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have an
> older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and took
> very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about $100,
> which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen along with the
> camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the thieves had stolen
> my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)
>
> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>
> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
>
> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
>
> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
> lens?
>
> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>
>
> thanks,
> Glen
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Re: PESO -- Half-track

2011-01-31 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice.

Dave

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:06 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Connecticut has a rather small military hardware museum, the outdoor
> exhibits were covered by the last snow storm.  I thought it would make an
> interesting photographic opportunity.  I was probably wrong.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20halftrackI.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9
>
> Notes:  Converted to B&W with Fotomatic B&W Plus green filter applied.
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 31, 2011, at 15:30, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> A nice photo of a great sculpture.  I expect that there was something 
> obtrusive just above it that you were cropping? Or was that as far back as 
> you could get with your widest lens?
> 

I remember now... they were bringing an ambulance in to attend to someone who 
had fallen down.  Soon as I took this shot I got someone pushing me on the 
shoulder... "out of the way, sir, get out of the way".  I never got back to do 
it right.  (sigh)

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Glen Berry  wrote:

> Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide
> between getting one of these new macro lenses:
>
> Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8

I have the one above. I cannot compare it to the 35 as i do not own
one, but once i had pentax "match" the 50 to m,y K10D the sharpness
just oozed pout from it.
I would highly recommend it.
One nit, the clamp switch has never really worked well since i bought
it, however i had reached my limit on sending lenses and cameras to
Pentax for repairs and adjustments, so i just live with it.,

Dave
> Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8
>
> Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?
>
> Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro
> lens?
>
> Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?
>
>
> thanks,
> Glen
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Argentic

2011-01-31 Thread Bob W
here's an interesting site for collectors of prints and books:


Quite an interesting way to put a value on some of your photo books. For
instance, I'm moderately surprised at the price of M E Mark's Indian Circus.
I have a mint first edition copy of it, which cost me next to nothing.

B


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Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 31, 2011, at 15:30, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
>> It's late January, and for St. Paul that means "Winter Carnival".
>> 
>> We took the grandson out to the State Fairgrounds to look at the snow 
>> sculpture competition.  Perfect weather (about 20F with sun) meant you 
>> didn't have to worry about finding shelter after only a few minutes of 
>> looking around.  Some years, it's just plain dangerous to go outside to see 
>> these.  Seriously!
>> 
>> One of the "crowd favorites", although I don't know how it did in the final 
>> judging:
>> 
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/winter_carnival/content/IMGP7700_large.html
> 
> 
> A nice photo of a great sculpture.  I expect that there was something 
> obtrusive just above it that you were cropping? Or was that as far back as 
> you could get with your widest lens?
> 

I crouched down, photographed, and was shooed out of the way by the crowds.  I 
probably just blew it compositionally!

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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen minutes 
> to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I realized that 
> the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding photos" rather than 
> "making photos" where I set out with a particular idea planned out.
>
> I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
> versus just going out and seeing what they find.
>
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I think most of my photos are planned. I like to enter in the Markham
Fair photo contest and i tend to go out and try to find the shots for
the categories i intended on entering.

Dave Brooks(not sent from a i4est.)
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Which Macro Lens?

2011-01-31 Thread Glen Berry
I'm considering spending some money on a new macro lens. I used to have 
an older Pentax 50mm f2.8 autofocus lens that was built like a tank, and 
took very sharp photos. I bought it used at a local shop for only about 
$100, which was a huge bargain! Unfortunately, that lens got stolen 
along with the camera it was mounted on at the time. God, how I wish the 
thieves had stolen my inexpensive kit lens instead!  :)


Anyway, I'm currently shooting with a K100D, and I'm trying to decide 
between getting one of these new macro lenses:


Pentax smc P-D FA 50mm f/2.8
Pentax SMCP-DA 35mm f/2.8

Are either of these lenses noticeably sharper than the other?

Which would you buy, especially if this were going to be your only macro 
lens?


Are there any other macro lenses I should consider?


thanks,
Glen

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Re: Remote Control F

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
sounds like you got ripped off in the worst way... 78 cents... ]=)

2011/1/31 Collin Brendemuehl :
> I got one of those generic IR remotes for the K-x off eBay for $3.50.
> They are priced @ 3.99 or best offer, & free shipping.
> Works great.  Worth every penny.
> But the seller mailed it with 78 cents postage due!
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
serious hint. I have a 380 V siemens oven and I regularly use it to
clean/refresh old cast iron cookwares. pyrolytic self cleaning goes up
to 500 degrees celsius. they look (and sell) like new afterwards.
actually knowledge gathered from a US web site about the dutch oven et
al. le creusets will also work great directly over a gas burner so the
enamel will handle the heat just fine.

2011/1/31 Larry Colen :
>
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, eckinator wrote:
>
>> does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the empty LC
>> every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it very well.
>
> Is that a serious hint or a joke?  I don't know how hot pyrolytic cleaning 
> gets.
>
> My oven is an old wedgewood gas oven, that was no longer new when my folks 
> bought the house in '73. It certainly doesn't have any self cleaning 
> capabilities.
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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, eckinator wrote:

> does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the empty LC
> every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it very well.

Is that a serious hint or a joke?  I don't know how hot pyrolytic cleaning gets.

My oven is an old wedgewood gas oven, that was no longer new when my folks 
bought the house in '73. It certainly doesn't have any self cleaning 
capabilities.

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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
does your oven have pyrolytic cleaning? if so just put in the empty LC
every couple of months and burn it clean. they take it very well.

2011/1/31 Larry Colen :
>
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
>
>> By an odd coincidence, I made a huge Stifado (Greek
>> beef-or-rabbit-with-oregano stew) yesterday for a guest, in the big Le
>> Creuset.  Cooks great.  But  requires considerable scrubbing after 5
>> hours of stewing.  -T
>
> I found that my Le Creusets are a lot easier to clean if rather than cooking 
> stews, chillis, etc. on the stove, I just put them in the oven.
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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> By an odd coincidence, I made a huge Stifado (Greek
> beef-or-rabbit-with-oregano stew) yesterday for a guest, in the big Le
> Creuset.  Cooks great.  But  requires considerable scrubbing after 5
> hours of stewing.  -T

I found that my Le Creusets are a lot easier to clean if rather than cooking 
stews, chillis, etc. on the stove, I just put them in the oven.


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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> 100% find, with the rare exceptions being when someone asks me to
> shoot something as a favor.
> 
> Mind you, when I go for a walk in an interesting place with a body and
> three lenses in a bag, I suppose that makes it semi-planned.  -T

I hope that you're talking about camera bodies.

But there's a big difference between planning on taking photos, and planning 
out a photo.

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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread Tim Bray
By an odd coincidence, I made a huge Stifado (Greek
beef-or-rabbit-with-oregano stew) yesterday for a guest, in the big Le
Creuset.  Cooks great.  But  requires considerable scrubbing after 5
hours of stewing.  -T

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Desjardins
>>> You should just spend your money on better pans.
>>
>> Funny you should mention that; a new commercial grade stock pot is on my 
>> short list.
>
> Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love my Le Cruset 
> cookware. It is enameled cast iron. The trick is to find an outlet store 
> which starts out with better prices than list, plus the more pieces you buy, 
> the bigger the discount you get, so go there with a friend or two, so you can 
> combine your purchases to get a bigger discount.  The closest one to me is in 
> Gilroy, and totally worth the drive.
>
> Not only does it have all the advantages of cast iron for cooking, but I've 
> found the surface to be easier to clean and more durable than either teflon 
> or calphalon.
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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Tim Bray
100% find, with the rare exceptions being when someone asks me to
shoot something as a favor.

Mind you, when I go for a walk in an interesting place with a body and
three lenses in a bag, I suppose that makes it semi-planned.  -T

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Adventure is just bad planning.
>> ~ Roald Amundsen
>
> That's a good phrase, and true. But not the whole truth - it can also be the
> deliberate absence of planning, just to see what happens. It's the best way
> to photograph in a strange city.
>
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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread steve harley

On 2011-01-31 14:44 , Larry Colen wrote:

I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
versus just going out and seeing what they find.


i usually just find (i prefer "see") photos, but i start by seeking 
something to see; for example when i travel, i often have a sort of 
anti-plan which connects to my photography -- i actively seek offbeat 
"attractions", places both tourists and locals are likely not to see; 
how i find such places varies from wandering to accident to 
recommendations, but i'm quite active in my "plan" to look for them, and 
i always take my camera


i do have a few specific projects of a documentary nature that i plan 
somewhat; i also sometimes see things and don't have time to photograph 
them, so i'll go back


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RE: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Bob W
> Adventure is just bad planning.
> ~ Roald Amundsen

That's a good phrase, and true. But not the whole truth - it can also be the
deliberate absence of planning, just to see what happens. It's the best way
to photograph in a strange city.

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Re: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Darren Addy
Adventure is just bad planning.
~ Roald Amundsen

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RE: finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Bob W
> While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen
> minutes to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I
> realized that the fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding
> photos" rather than "making photos" where I set out with a particular
> idea planned out.
> 
> I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough
> plan, versus just going out and seeing what they find.

99% of my pictures are unplanned in the sense that I don't try and set
something up, but I do usually go to places with an idea of the type of
thing I expect to get. 

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Re: PESO rope on dock at night

2011-01-31 Thread eckinator
c'mon larry, we all know oyu have access to whips and chains ]=)

2011/1/31 Larry Colen :
>
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:26 PM, eckinator wrote:
>
>> I like that much better. The rope has less of that Gaussian
>> nervous-tense-tired effect on my eyes. Also it invokes no naked Larry
>> image ]=P
>
> If you folks keep that up, I may have to pull a Savage and post a naked 
> picture of myself. I don't own a pink tutu, but I do have my birthday suit.
>
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Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?

2011-01-31 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Bob W, discom-BOB-W-lated, issued forth with:
>
> he's excited by the phrase 'has a nice woody'.
>
> /twink/

No, sorry.  It's /gone/.

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finding pictures or making pictures?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
While waiting for my backdrop to dry at the laundromat, I had fifteen minutes 
to kill, so I went for a short photo walk. On my way back, I realized that the 
fast majority of my photography is mostly "finding photos" rather than "making 
photos" where I set out with a particular idea planned out.

I'm curious how often the people on this list work from even a rough plan, 
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Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking filmphotos?

2011-01-31 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 02:05:15PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote:
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling"
> 
> Subject: Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when,
> taking filmphotos?
> 
> 
> >"..the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in
> >between the frames. "  Where you could cut it in half and make it
> >unreadable...
> 
> Not true IIRC, the imprinting is done between the sprocket holes.

Yep.  Of course by the time I got my MZ-S I was shooting Provia 100F,
so getting the slides mounted meant I couldn't read the info anyway.

I believe there was an option to print everything on a frame at the
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Re: What gear is on your "short list"?

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Steven Desjardins
>> You should just spend your money on better pans.
> 
> Funny you should mention that; a new commercial grade stock pot is on my 
> short list.

Speaking of equipment versus skill at cooking, I absolutely love my Le Cruset 
cookware. It is enameled cast iron. The trick is to find an outlet store which 
starts out with better prices than list, plus the more pieces you buy, the 
bigger the discount you get, so go there with a friend or two, so you can 
combine your purchases to get a bigger discount.  The closest one to me is in 
Gilroy, and totally worth the drive.

Not only does it have all the advantages of cast iron for cooking, but I've 
found the surface to be easier to clean and more durable than either teflon or 
calphalon.

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RE: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?

2011-01-31 Thread Bob W
> >
> >> Stop saying "wink".  It's frightfully tinny sounding.  Now "yawn"
> has
> >> a nice woody tone to it.  Could you have your involuntary spasms do
> >> that, instead?
> > Actually ///jerkjerk   my knee's going now
> 
> Are you /sure/ it's your knee?
> 

he's excited by the phrase 'has a nice woody'. 

/twink/

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RE: OT: Quote of the week

2011-01-31 Thread Bob W
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:10 PM, David J Brooks 
> wrote:
> > She is closer to his age anyway.
> 
> He's got nose hairs older than that.

Hall of fame! Mark!

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Re: PESO: (Snow) Monster under the bed

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> It's late January, and for St. Paul that means "Winter Carnival".
> 
> We took the grandson out to the State Fairgrounds to look at the snow 
> sculpture competition.  Perfect weather (about 20F with sun) meant you didn't 
> have to worry about finding shelter after only a few minutes of looking 
> around.  Some years, it's just plain dangerous to go outside to see these.  
> Seriously!
> 
> One of the "crowd favorites", although I don't know how it did in the final 
> judging:
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/winter_carnival/content/IMGP7700_large.html


A nice photo of a great sculpture.  I expect that there was something obtrusive 
just above it that you were cropping? Or was that as far back as you could get 
with your widest lens?

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Re: PESO rope on dock at night

2011-01-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:26 PM, eckinator wrote:

> I like that much better. The rope has less of that Gaussian
> nervous-tense-tired effect on my eyes. Also it invokes no naked Larry
> image ]=P

If you folks keep that up, I may have to pull a Savage and post a naked picture 
of myself. I don't own a pink tutu, but I do have my birthday suit.


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RE: OT: Quote of the week

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Blakely
Well, I do like them Crystals & Tiffinys & Bunnies & Buffys & and all them
cute li'l gals who could be described by e e cummings poem, "She being brand
new".

Bob...

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Sugar is sweet,
And so are you.
 
But the roses are wilting,
The violets are dead,
The sugar bowl's empty,
And so is your head.

>>From: John Sessoms
>>
>>Caught just a few seconds of Letterman last week, and Hefner was the 
>>topic of discussion.
>>
>>He's apparently ditched the 20 yo Shannon twins and announced his 
>>engagement to 24 yo Playboy Playmate (Dec 2009) Crystal Harris.


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Re: OT: Quote of the week

2011-01-31 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:10 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> She is closer to his age anyway.

He's got nose hairs older than that.

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Re: OT: Quote of the week

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/31/2011 4:10 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

Caught just a few seconds of Letterman last week, and Hefner was the topic
of discussion.

He's apparently ditched the 20 yo Shannon twins and announced his engagement
to 24 yo Playboy Playmate (Dec 2009) Crystal Harris.

She is closer to his age anyway.


Hey you've got to keep perspective, when he's 150 she'll be almost 100...


Dave

From: Steven Desjardins

Hefner's still going strong. Or is he dead? I forget.
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Dario Bonazza
wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote:



Meaning that if one manages to have sex at least three times a week
for
indefinitely long period of time, they might end up living forever...

That's Berlusconi's strategy.



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Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking filmphotos?

2011-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-01-31 14:05, Ken Waller wrote:


- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling"

Subject: Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking
filmphotos?



"..the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between
the frames. " Where you could cut it in half and make it unreadable...


Not true IIRC, the imprinting is done between the sprocket holes.


It is between the sprocket holes on the MZ-S.

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Re: OT Making LR presets in Develop mode

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling

and?

On 1/31/2011 4:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
I don't want it to read my mind, I just want it to do what I want it 
to do instead of what I told it to do.


From: "P. J. Alling"

I'm not sure that anyone would want their computer reading their mind.
That is assuming that they have one.

On 1/31/2011 3:18 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Don Guthrie
>> Darn computers - they do exactly what we tell them to - not what 
we want

>> them to do.
>>

>
> Let me know if you ever find a solution to that problem. I'm looking
> for a sure-fire investment opportunity, and that would be the Killer
> App to end all killer apps.
>
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