Re: PESO 2011 - 051 - GDG

2011-04-10 Thread Tim Bray
Great picture, but I think it'd be just as good without the vignetting.  -T

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 A new PESO ... more in the 2011 Guadalupe River Park landscape series, a 
 little break from Communicating ...

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5592762804/lightbox/
 or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5592762804/

 Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated.

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RE: homemade tilt/shift lens (more or less)

2011-04-10 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 Good idea, nice execution!
 Any photos to show yet?
 
 Bulent

Two ~infinity toy shots:
http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=48
http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=47

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RE: PESO - Pals

2011-04-10 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 Paul Stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net]
 
 At the park today:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12934975

Some good fun there,
nicely captured - a dynamic shot, framed well.

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Re: K20D files and Lightroom (Windows)

2011-04-10 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 03:22:13PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
 On 10 April 2011 13:33, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 
  I'll shoot RAW(DNG)+JPEG so that I've always got a quick JPEG image to
  browse, print, give away, or whatever when I don't have access to my
  computer. ?But when I get back home I'll still want to import everything
  into lightroom; I don't want to keep track of a separate set of images.
 
 This is how I work too, generally I set the in camera JPEG to 2Mpx and
 no software I have used has had problems with the in-camera generated
 JPEG files.
 
 To me it seems that somehow the files are being truncated or otherwise
 modified on import, I would try to check images on an alternate system
 straight from the card using another card reader, then at least the
 general source of the problem could be identified.

Modified on import, or somehow being broken in-camera.  I'd suspect
this of being an isolated problem; if it were endemic I'd have thought
that we'd have heard about it long before this.


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Re: homemade tilt/shift lens (more or less)

2011-04-10 Thread drd1135
It works.  Nice!   
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Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
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Subject: RE: homemade tilt/shift lens (more or less)

 Good idea, nice execution!
 Any photos to show yet?
 
 Bulent

Two ~infinity toy shots:
http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=48
http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=47

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Re: Sledge driver and his horses...

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
Thank you all my friends,

He was indeed a fun man to talk to.
Talkative, warm and easygoing...

Bulent
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2011/4/10 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com:
 You can't look at that and not smile. Thanks. -T

 On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Bulent Celasun
 bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again, from the frozen lake adventures (!) :

 Larger:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12924212size=lg

 Smaller:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12924212

 To me, it looks more than a snapshot. I wonder if others also see a
 person, a lifestyle here.
 Or, is it nothing more than just another tourist photo?

 Bulent

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RE: K20D files and Lightroom (Windows)

2011-04-10 Thread Bob W


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Robert and Leigh Woerner
[...]
 
 The reason I like shooting JPEGs is that I can apply settings in
 camera so
 that I can quickly email, etc. to friends who lack software that can
 deal with
 RAW files.
 
 Again, this is a real PITA.
 

Windows Photo Viewer (which is supplied with Win7) can read DNG files and
attach jpeg version to emails with one menu click.

You can't use it for any editing, but for a quick email it's perfectly
adequate - much more convenient than using LR. 

You could also see if it will read you embedded jpgs and send them.

B

 Thanks for the replies thus far.  I just edited 19 RAW images and
 exported them
 as JPEGs for posting on Facebook, emailing, etc.



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GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread David Mann
I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at 
all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away and fly 
to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately that 
does make them prone to predation.

http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as they 
move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the air in 
random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider it a real 
blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late grandmother used to 
like them so they do remind me of her.

I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 800ISO.  
Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro.

You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I used 
to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.

Cheers,
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RE: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at 
 all - if you're careful
 they will happily perch a couple of feet away and fly to within inches of 
 you.  He even ate
 a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately that does make them prone to predation.
 
 http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

 Cheers,
 Dave

Looks like a fun shoot. I especially like #2, #6 and #7. #6 and #7 in 
particular are more intimate shots of the little bird - and that is very 
welcome even in a full-length portrait.

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Re: PESO: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  A flower made for shallow DoF.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow, that was a slap n the face!
 I expected old grey stones and got a great flower.
 Nice details Cory!
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 We went on a cemetery tour this morning in one of the older burial grounds
 here in Atlanta.  The kids thought it would be depressing.  I found lots of
 life to shoot.
 I'm going to have to go back when the light is better.  With the old stones
 and cool masonry, there's lots of cool macro work to be had there.
 Cory
 http://cwaters.smugmug.com/Photography/Flowers/IGP7701/1245875323_cATep-L-1.jpg

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Re: PESO - Pals

2011-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Kris. I rarely crop square, but this shot seemed to demand it.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2011, at 2:18 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

 Paul Stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net]
 
 At the park today:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12934975
 
 Some good fun there,
 nicely captured - a dynamic shot, framed well.
 
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Re: PESO: Daisies 'n Moss

2011-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for comments, Tim. I believe DoF and contrast are primarily responsible 
for the sense of 3D.(?)

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Daisies 'n Moss
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 10:37 PM
 That's a wonderful picture. 
 It's very three-dimensional for some
 reason that I can't quite place.  -T
 
 On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Shot about 30 mins ago one of our flower beds.
 Possible as a result of my wife's fine hand.
 
  Comments?
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=586
 
  K20, DA 16~45@34mm, 1/180, ISO 800
 
 
 
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Re: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Nice crisp shot, David! This is my introduction to the Fantail. I'm going to 
have to look them up in my bird book. I don't recall seeing such here in 
California.

Jack

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 From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz
 Subject: GESO: fantail
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 1:09 AM
 I had a great time with a little
 fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at all - if
 you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away
 and fly to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off
 my foot.  Unfortunately that does make them prone to
 predation.
 
 http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/
 
 They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those
 insects up as they move about.  It's fun to watch their
 antics as they flit through the air in random directions
 while happily chirping to each other.  I consider it a
 real blessing to have them hanging around our garden. 
 My late grandmother used to like them so they do remind me
 of her.
 
 I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using
 the RTF at 800ISO.  Other than that it's the good old
 K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro.
 
 You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the
 100mm macro.  I used to dream of getting half-decent
 photos of fantails.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 
 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9 April 2011 23:20, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Anyone have any advertising or promotion ideas/suggestions. I thought
 of T.O.P. but Mike's cheapest ad is $300.00 for one month, which is
 way beyond our price range.  Cheap/free suggestions welcomed.

 Did everyone that was out of pocket with MJ a few years back receive a
 refund? It might be that a favour from him is in order?

No. Why do you think i send him cat pictures.

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Re: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
Nice set of pictures.

Dave

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:09 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at 
 all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away and fly 
 to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately that 
 does make them prone to predation.

 http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

 They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as they 
 move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the air in 
 random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider it a real 
 blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late grandmother used to 
 like them so they do remind me of her.

 I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 800ISO.  
 Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8 
 Macro.

 You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I 
 used to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.

 Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Pals

2011-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
Ah youth at its best.

Dave

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Re: PESO: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. Great colours and very crisp.

I like cemetery walks as well

Dave

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 We went on a cemetery tour this morning in one of the older burial grounds
 here in Atlanta.  The kids thought it would be depressing.  I found lots of
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 I'm going to have to go back when the light is better.  With the old stones
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Re: RE-35 flexisensor

2011-04-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rob Studdert


On 5 April 2011 18:46, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:


Probably wouldn't be too hard to replace the spring loaded platen
on one of my LX Digital or Analog Dial Data backs with a FF
sensor, and cram the electronics into the fairly large battery
and clock box. Expand the Dial Data Back's compartment to cover
the whole back if need be, Use the power from the motor drive's
battery pack.

Piece of cake!


Not quite as easy as it might appear, the major issue lies with the
actual plane of focus on a sensor assembly vs the materials that
must be placed in front of the light sensitive surface. IOW the
sensor assembly would need to slightly protrude into the mirror box,
not a great situation when combined with a focal plane shutter ;-)


Any protective coverings would have to be thin enough they wouldn't 
protrude materially beyond the film plane or the whole idea wouldn't work.






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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb


On 09/04/2011 7:44 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:



 Did everyone that was out of pocket with MJ a few years back receive a
 refund? It might be that a favour from him is in order?


Yeah, I think I paid 24 US bucks when the US$ was actually worth
something for two of his newsletters. I didn't think it was good value.
And no, Mike was not good enough to refund money to me when he bailed on
his newsletter.



Sounds like the NY Times. I got an email from them recently they're 
going to start charging a subscription for access to their web content.


My first thought was were they going to do the same thing they did last 
time, i.e. abandon the idea when they don't get enough paid subscribers?


After I'd paid for my annual subscription, they dropped the idea and 
went back to providing free content, but did not refund anything to 
those of us who had subscribed, nor provided any extra content to paid 
subscribers.


Since I didn't get anything for my paid subscription last time, I'm not 
subscribing this time. They need me more than I need them.



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RE: OT Stanley Kubrick's Chicago 1949

2011-04-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker


?Before he started making movies, Stanley Kubrick was a star
photojournalist. In the summer of 1949, Look magazine sent him to
Chicago to shoot pictures for a story called ?Chicago City of Contrasts.?
- Chicago Tribune

Some really terrific shots here ...

http://goo.gl/rJ7WP



Izzat Gorgeous George I spy?


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RE: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Very nice captures... I am still working on my bird captures and getting
better somewhat at capturing them while I am out and about.

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Subject: GESO: fantail

I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at
all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away and
fly to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately
that does make them prone to predation.

http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as
they move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the
air in random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider
it a real blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late
grandmother used to like them so they do remind me of her.

I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 800ISO.
Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8
Macro.

You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I
used to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.

Cheers,
Dave



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RE: PESO: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Very nice

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Waters
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:24 PM
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Subject: PESO: LIFE!

We went on a cemetery tour this morning in one of the older burial grounds
here in Atlanta.  The kids thought it would be depressing.  I found lots of
life to shoot.
I'm going to have to go back when the light is better.  With the old stones
and cool masonry, there's lots of cool macro work to be had there.
Cory
http://cwaters.smugmug.com/Photography/Flowers/IGP7701/1245875323_cATep-L-1.
jpg

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Re: PESO: Daisies 'n Moss

2011-04-10 Thread John Sessoms
As a completely neutral observer, I think something in between the two 
versions would work.


The lighter shadows bring out some color and texture from the shadow 
side of the rock. But it seems the brightly lit areas get a bit brighter 
as well.


Perhaps, lighten the shadows about half as much without boosting the 
brightness of the rest of the image.


My $0.02 as long as I don't have to do any of the work.


From: Jack Davis


I really don't know in what way you see your version different from
what I stated. I did another quick images exchange and to me, your
do is still flatter due to your having lightened the shadows. As I
initially stated, I prefer more depth.

Jack

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From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com Subject: Re: PESO:
Daisies 'n Moss To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 6:53 PM On 2011-04-09 19:33 , Jack
Davis wrote:

I get error 404 on your image link.


Dropbox is being weird -- it will load for me in two different
browsers, then it won't -- just click the full size link from
the initial image view

https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3510446/1/DaisyMoss?h=0ac98e




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Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

I bought a LensPen. Tried it on a back screen of my camera and it worked 
wonders.


Now, I only want to know whether it is safe to use LensPen on a lens 
numerous times as I don't think I fully understand the way it works.


Thanks and sorry for the noob question.

Boris

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread David Parsons
It's fine to use multiple times.  Just put the cap on between uses and
spin the cap once or twice before using.

It's considered disposable, so it's not something that you'll be using forever.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 I bought a LensPen. Tried it on a back screen of my camera and it worked
 wonders.

 Now, I only want to know whether it is safe to use LensPen on a lens
 numerous times as I don't think I fully understand the way it works.

 Thanks and sorry for the noob question.

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/10/2011 16:46, David Parsons wrote:

It's fine to use multiple times.  Just put the cap on between uses and
spin the cap once or twice before using.

It's considered disposable, so it's not something that you'll be using forever.


David, I was asking about the lens. I mean, is it ok with the lens to be 
LensPen'ed multiple times?


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RE: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 I was asking about the lens. I mean, is it ok with the lens to be
 LensPen'ed multiple times?
 
 Boris

A case of  “All mushrooms are edible; but some only once.”?

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Personally, I would never use a lens pen on a lens. A blast of air, followed by 
a light spray of OFR and a gentle wipe with a perfectly clean microfiber cloth 
is the only lens cleaning method I would ever employ. Lens pen use involves too 
much contact for my taste.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/10/2011 16:46, David Parsons wrote:
 It's fine to use multiple times.  Just put the cap on between uses and
 spin the cap once or twice before using.
 
 It's considered disposable, so it's not something that you'll be using 
 forever.
 
 David, I was asking about the lens. I mean, is it ok with the lens to be 
 LensPen'ed multiple times?
 
 Boris
 
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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/10/2011 17:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Personally, I would never use a lens pen on a lens. A blast of air,
followed by a light spray of OFR and a gentle wipe with a perfectly
clean microfiber cloth is the only lens cleaning method I would ever
employ. Lens pen use involves too much contact for my taste. Paul


Paul, what is OFR?

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/10/2011 17:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Personally, I would never use a lens pen on a lens. A blast of air,
 followed by a light spray of OFR and a gentle wipe with a perfectly
 clean microfiber cloth is the only lens cleaning method I would ever
 employ. Lens pen use involves too much contact for my taste. Paul
 
 Paul, what is OFR?

Oil Film Remover. Most camera stores sell it. It comes in a small spray bottle. 
A tiny amount sprayed on the lens will remove any oil film and microscopic 
dirt. It's also great for cleaning computer monitor screens, smartphones, etc.

Paul
 
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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread David Parsons
I would never spray anything onto a lens.  Spray onto a cloth, sure.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/10/2011 17:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Personally, I would never use a lens pen on a lens. A blast of air,
 followed by a light spray of OFR and a gentle wipe with a perfectly
 clean microfiber cloth is the only lens cleaning method I would ever
 employ. Lens pen use involves too much contact for my taste. Paul

 Paul, what is OFR?

 Oil Film Remover. Most camera stores sell it. It comes in a small spray 
 bottle. A tiny amount sprayed on the lens will remove any oil film and 
 microscopic dirt. It's also great for cleaning computer monitor screens, 
 smartphones, etc.

 Paul

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread David Parsons
Sorry.

I've never had a problem with using it.  I blow it first, then brush.

Though, I do find that a microfiber cloth works much better.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/10/2011 16:46, David Parsons wrote:

 It's fine to use multiple times.  Just put the cap on between uses and
 spin the cap once or twice before using.

 It's considered disposable, so it's not something that you'll be using
 forever.

 David, I was asking about the lens. I mean, is it ok with the lens to be
 LensPen'ed multiple times?

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:53 AM, David Parsons wrote:

 I would never spray anything onto a lens.  Spray onto a cloth, sure.

I've done it both ways and see no real difference, in that the amount of spray 
is easy to control. However, you're correct in that it is safer to spray onto a 
cloth, particularly when using a new product or one that hasn't been cared for 
personally.
Paul
 
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 
 On 4/10/2011 17:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Personally, I would never use a lens pen on a lens. A blast of air,
 followed by a light spray of OFR and a gentle wipe with a perfectly
 clean microfiber cloth is the only lens cleaning method I would ever
 employ. Lens pen use involves too much contact for my taste. Paul
 
 Paul, what is OFR?
 
 Oil Film Remover. Most camera stores sell it. It comes in a small spray 
 bottle. A tiny amount sprayed on the lens will remove any oil film and 
 microscopic dirt. It's also great for cleaning computer monitor screens, 
 smartphones, etc.
 
 Paul
 
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Re: OT Stanley Kubrick's Chicago 1949

2011-04-10 Thread Keith Whaley

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Bruce Walker


?Before he started making movies, Stanley Kubrick was a star
photojournalist. In the summer of 1949, Look magazine sent him to
Chicago to shoot pictures for a story called ?Chicago City of Contrasts.?
- Chicago Tribune

Some really terrific shots here ...

http://goo.gl/rJ7WP


Yes they are.


Izzat Gorgeous George I spy?



Yup. That was My Summer in Chicago as I was attending Great Lakes Naval 
Training Center. Brings back a lot of memories...



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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread John Celio
I've been using LensPens for years and have never had a problem with them. 
Eventually they lose their ability to clean effectively and you have to 
replace them, but I've never noticed any kind of scratches or other problems 
caused by the pens.


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From: Boris Liberman

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 6:40 AM
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Subject: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

Hi!

I bought a LensPen. Tried it on a back screen of my camera and it worked
wonders.

Now, I only want to know whether it is safe to use LensPen on a lens
numerous times as I don't think I fully understand the way it works.

Thanks and sorry for the noob question.

Boris

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Re: PESO: Daisies 'n Moss

2011-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
No question but your suggestion would make an acceptable image. I effected the 
amount of shadow lightening that struck a comfortable note through my monitor. 
Such tweaking has no limit.
Thanks, John!

Jack

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 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Daisies 'n Moss
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 6:36 AM
 As a completely neutral observer, I
 think something in between the two 
 versions would work.
 
 The lighter shadows bring out some color and texture from
 the shadow 
 side of the rock. But it seems the brightly lit areas get a
 bit brighter 
 as well.
 
 Perhaps, lighten the shadows about half as much without
 boosting the 
 brightness of the rest of the image.
 
 My $0.02 as long as I don't have to do any of the work.
 
 
 From: Jack Davis
 
  I really don't know in what way you see your version
 different from
  what I stated. I did another quick images exchange and
 to me, your
  do is still flatter due to your having lightened the
 shadows. As I
  initially stated, I prefer more depth.
 
  Jack
 
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 wrote:
 
  From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com
 Subject: Re: PESO:
  Daisies 'n Moss To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 6:53 PM On
 2011-04-09 19:33 , Jack
  Davis wrote:
  I get error 404 on your image link.
 
  Dropbox is being weird -- it will load for me
 in two different
  browsers, then it won't -- just click the
 full size link from
  the initial image view
 
  https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3510446/1/DaisyMoss?h=0ac98e
 
 
 
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Re: Sledge driver and his horses...

2011-04-10 Thread Eric Weir

On Apr 8, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Smaller:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12924212
 
 To me, it looks more than a snapshot. I wonder if others also see a
 person, a lifestyle here.
 Or, is it nothing more than just another tourist photo?

My reaction is, Wow! He must love his horses to decorate them that way. So I 
don't think it's a snapshot. I'd like to know more about the guy, his life, his 
horses, etc., etc. So again, It's not a snapshot. It's not a snapshot.

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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
Boris,
I use a lens pen whenever needed (that is, infrequently).
I always blow  brush the visible dust particles first.
I always store it with the cap on.

No harm until now...

Bulent
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Canon spot: fatal?

2011-04-10 Thread Tim Bray
Argh, my just-days-over-a-year-old Canon S90 has an obvious visible
smudge on the sensor - or at least, there's a spot in the pictures
that looks exactly like the effect a dust-spot on my K20 sensor
produces.  But it's a totally sealed body.  Is this thing effectively
dead?  Gr -T

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Re: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Tim Bray
I particularly like #2. By RTF you mean some sort of flash? I haven't
touched a flash in months and I'm wondering, what with the K-5 and
lots of 2.8-and-faster lenses, if I ever will again.  -T

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:09 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at 
 all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away and fly 
 to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately that 
 does make them prone to predation.

 http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

 They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as they 
 move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the air in 
 random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider it a real 
 blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late grandmother used to 
 like them so they do remind me of her.

 I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 800ISO.  
 Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8 
 Macro.

 You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I 
 used to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.

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RE: Canon spot: fatal?

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Well now that is interesting... Any way of popping it open to blow the
sensor off. Also this might be a silly question are you sure it is on the
sensor and not lens.

Jeffery

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Subject: Canon spot: fatal?

Argh, my just-days-over-a-year-old Canon S90 has an obvious visible smudge
on the sensor - or at least, there's a spot in the pictures that looks
exactly like the effect a dust-spot on my K20 sensor produces.  But it's a
totally sealed body.  Is this thing effectively dead?  Gr -T

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Re: Canon spot: fatal?

2011-04-10 Thread Tim Bray
Yeah, should have said, I got out the lens-cleaning cloth and cleaned
the hell out that little lens and held it up to a really bright light
but couldn't see anything. Mind you, I have the average presbyopia of
a 55-year-old.  But the effect looks totally identical to those from
the dust-specks I have to clean out of the K20 from time to time.  -T

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Well now that is interesting... Any way of popping it open to blow the
 sensor off. Also this might be a silly question are you sure it is on the
 sensor and not lens.

 Jeffery

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 Subject: Canon spot: fatal?

 Argh, my just-days-over-a-year-old Canon S90 has an obvious visible smudge
 on the sensor - or at least, there's a spot in the pictures that looks
 exactly like the effect a dust-spot on my K20 sensor produces.  But it's a
 totally sealed body.  Is this thing effectively dead?  Gr -T

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RE: Canon spot: fatal?

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Okay well now I wouldn't toss it but just not use it on photos you really
want to keep. That is assuming the spots are in noticeable prime areas of
photos. 

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Bray
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Canon spot: fatal?

Yeah, should have said, I got out the lens-cleaning cloth and cleaned the
hell out that little lens and held it up to a really bright light but
couldn't see anything. Mind you, I have the average presbyopia of a
55-year-old.  But the effect looks totally identical to those from the
dust-specks I have to clean out of the K20 from time to time.  -T

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Well now that is interesting... Any way of popping it open to blow the 
 sensor off. Also this might be a silly question are you sure it is on 
 the sensor and not lens.

 Jeffery

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 Subject: Canon spot: fatal?

 Argh, my just-days-over-a-year-old Canon S90 has an obvious visible 
 smudge on the sensor - or at least, there's a spot in the pictures 
 that looks exactly like the effect a dust-spot on my K20 sensor 
 produces.  But it's a totally sealed body.  Is this thing effectively 
 dead?  Gr -T

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peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
or if you prefer flickriver:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081

Please tell me what you think.

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Re: Boris PESO 08 - Have a sit

2011-04-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
Nice geometry, I do like it.
I agree with Godfrey - you could try to push it further.

--S

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beautiful composition.  It just didn't work on a cell phone.

 On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I'll certainly say its original but I don't, in general, care for inverted
 images.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 Subject: Boris PESO 08 - Have a sit


 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-08-have-sit.html

 Be brutal and honest.

 Thanks.

 Boris


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Re: April PUG is up!

2011-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, but that's what I loved about it:  the colors were always
brighter than in real life.
G

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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Dan's image of the tulips reminds me of the problems I had with Kodachrome 
 red. A problem that Ann seemed to overcome in her submission (great job, 
 Ann). The few times I tried to shoot red roses the red became oversaturated, 
 destroying the shapes of the roses. But hey! The green in the leaves was 
 perfect!

 :-)

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Re: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Lovely flower, Corey, well rendered!

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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Nicely captured

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 - Original Message - From: Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: PESO: LIFE!


 We went on a cemetery tour this morning in one of the older burial grounds
 here in Atlanta.  The kids thought it would be depressing.  I found lots of
 life to shoot.
 I'm going to have to go back when the light is better.  With the old
 stones and cool masonry, there's lots of cool macro work to be had there.
 Cory

 http://cwaters.smugmug.com/Photography/Flowers/IGP7701/1245875323_cATep-L-1.jpg

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Re: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A great series of images!  Together they show off the personality of
this little fellow more that any single portrait ever could.

Dan
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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:09 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at 
 all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away and fly 
 to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately that 
 does make them prone to predation.

 http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

 They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as they 
 move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the air in 
 random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider it a real 
 blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late grandmother used to 
 like them so they do remind me of her.

 I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 800ISO.  
 Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8 
 Macro.

 You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I 
 used to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.

 Cheers,
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:06 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 No. Why do you think i send him cat pictures.

 Dave
OH NO, not cat pictures!  What a cruel man you are indeed!

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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Striking image, Sasha! Brillient colors and sharp peddle edge make it all work.

Jack

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 Subject: peso - flower
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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081
 
 Please tell me what you think.
 
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Re: Video length limit for K-7

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 9, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Leon Altoff wrote:

 I'd like it if it automatically started a new file when the one in use
 reached capacity.  Does the K5 do anything like that?

No, but if you use the next lower resolution file on the K-5 you can store 25 
minutes at a time.

 
 Leon
 
 On 10 April 2011 09:58, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not unless you know a way to put a different file system on the card
 that the camera could use.  The limit is an addressing limit of the
 file system.  It can only handle 4GB files.
 
 It's possible of course, but you'd need to hack the firmware to do it.
 
 On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I can see that the length of a video that can be taken with K-7
 is limited by about 9 minutes.
 I remember reading about it, but what I don't remember if there
 was any hack or work-around for that.
 
 
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Re: PDML Book update and expenses

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
Ideas for places to advertise the book:

We should, of course, send word to Ned, and press releases to the major online 
photo blogs.

It probably would not hurt to send emails of the press releases to the dead 
tree photo mags either.

Are there any sort of pediatric oncology trade journals, professional websites 
etc?

I wonder of Pentax USA would be willing to buy some to sell at trade shows? 
They'd get a tax writeoff, a great way to show off the abilities of the gear, 
good PR etc. 
If they buy in on the concept, it could be worth it to them to have more than a 
few printed, which could greatly lower the cost per book.

Someone should set up a facebook event for selling them. Events are the easiest 
way on facebook to get the word out to a lot of people, and it seems that most 
people younger than 40 have facebook accounts, albeit with a fairly steep 
dropoff in age for folks over 50.

I wonder if anyone has the chops to make a short video to post on youtube about 
it?

We should ask Craig Shergold, who was a childhood cancer survivor, to send out 
an email asking people to buy a copy.

On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 This stat has likely been related, but how many 2009/2010 books were sold?
 
 I think (hope) that the 2011 edition will generate a really
 enthusiastic response from the participants, from Pentax and from
 everyone else; the result should be more widespread awareness and
 better sales.
 
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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow.  Well done.  You've de-cliched the flower.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Striking image, Sasha! Brillient colors and sharp peddle edge make it all 
 work.

 Jack

 --- On Sun, 4/10/11, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:

 From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com
 Subject: peso - flower
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 Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 10:39 AM
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081

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Re: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Ken Waller
Cute little guy and a different pose, I only wish the background was a 
little less busy in the first.


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- Original Message - 
From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz

Subject: GESO: fantail


I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy 
at all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away 
and fly to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot. 
Unfortunately that does make them prone to predation.


http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as 
they move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the 
air in random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider 
it a real blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late 
grandmother used to like them so they do remind me of her.


I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 
800ISO.  Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 
100mm f/2.8 Macro.


You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I 
used to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.


Cheers,
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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Ken Waller

Ditto

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- Original Message - 
From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com

Subject: Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout


I've been using LensPens for years and have never had a problem with them. 
Eventually they lose their ability to clean effectively and you have to 
replace them, but I've never noticed any kind of scratches or other 
problems caused by the pens.


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-Original Message- 
From: Boris Liberman

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 6:40 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

Hi!

I bought a LensPen. Tried it on a back screen of my camera and it worked
wonders.

Now, I only want to know whether it is safe to use LensPen on a lens
numerous times as I don't think I fully understand the way it works.

Thanks and sorry for the noob question.

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Re: Video length limit for K-7

2011-04-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

Aah, so, that length is limited by the file size?
I thought it was just artificially imposed by the manufacturers
in order to avoid problems with the videocam sales.
(As a matter of fact, I remember reading about this sort of limit
set for the cameras sold in some regions, but not others 
(Europe vs. Americas?))

Thank you, Larry for the idea, I might indeed try smaller resolution,
or just lower quality (higher-compression).

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Re: PESO: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
Oh! Life is everywhere... thankfully...

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Re: Boris PESO 08 - Have a sit

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
I liked the image and the intrigue; however, I feel that Godfrey's
wordsadvice also seem sound.

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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Rick Womer
Very striking, and a perspective I don't recall seeing before.

I wonder if reducing the red luminance would bring out more detail.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com
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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
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Lines, shapes and colors...

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
... for an abstract feel.

Smaller:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12938842

Larger:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12938842size=lg

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Re: PESO 2011 - 053 - GDG

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
Beautiful composition.
Perfect post processing.

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PESO Broken Roof

2011-04-10 Thread Thomas Bohn
Today I've seen this broken roof, the rest of the building doesn't
look to good either:

http://www.23hq.com/tehabe/photo/6635117

I hope you like it.

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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sasha,
Great image, great concept!
I especially like the sharp focus on the edge,
followed with the out of focus pistol and stemen in the background.
A great way to show a red tulip!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
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Re: Lines, shapes and colors...

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bulent,
Very nice, very graphic!
Regards,  Bob S.

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bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... for an abstract feel.

 Smaller:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12938842

 Larger:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12938842size=lg

 Bulent

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PAW66 - Spring fog

2011-04-10 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA*16-50mm@50, 1/80s, f/2.8, ISO200 


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Re: GESO: a few full 360 panoramas

2011-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
Beautiful work.
No technical glitches.

I wonder what kind of creative/artistic projects can be done using
this approach...

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Re: GESO: fantail

2011-04-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great set.  I love the bath.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 A great series of images!  Together they show off the personality of
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 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:09 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 I had a great time with a little fantail this afternoon.  They aren't shy at 
 all - if you're careful they will happily perch a couple of feet away and 
 fly to within inches of you.  He even ate a bug off my foot.  Unfortunately 
 that does make them prone to predation.

 http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-apr-10/

 They eat insects on the wing and people tend to stir those insects up as 
 they move about.  It's fun to watch their antics as they flit through the 
 air in random directions while happily chirping to each other.  I consider 
 it a real blessing to have them hanging around our garden.  My late 
 grandmother used to like them so they do remind me of her.

 I had a lot of trouble with the light and ended up using the RTF at 800ISO.  
 Other than that it's the good old K10D, FA*200mm f/2.8 and FA 100mm f/2.8 
 Macro.

 You know it's a good day birding when you have to use the 100mm macro.  I 
 used to dream of getting half-decent photos of fantails.

 Cheers,
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PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog

2011-04-10 Thread Christine Aguila

Seems to be the theme this week ;-).

http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

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Re: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog

2011-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
That's nice, Christine! Monochrome tones very pleasing.

Jack

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 To: pdml@pdml.net
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 Seems to be the theme this week ;-).
 
 http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
 
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Re: Micro enablement and a question thereabout

2011-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 April 2011 23:40, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 I bought a LensPen. Tried it on a back screen of my camera and it worked
 wonders.

 Now, I only want to know whether it is safe to use LensPen on a lens
 numerous times as I don't think I fully understand the way it works.

 Thanks and sorry for the noob question.

The tip is impregnated with activated carbon as I understand, this is
designed to effectively mop up oils and other contaminants. Any modern
lens coatings should remain unaffected when subjected to even the most
overzealous lens cleaning regimens so long as potential abrasive
materials are brushed away prior to treatment. I prefer this type of
cleaner over liquid applications as liquids have a nasty habit of
finding their way into places that they aren't wanted even with
careful application (cleaning discrete glass elements is another
matter).

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Re: RE-35 flexisensor

2011-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 April 2011 22:23, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Any protective coverings would have to be thin enough they wouldn't protrude
 materially beyond the film plane or the whole idea wouldn't work.

Which is why a true FF sensor of this type is a virtual impossibility.

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understanding sensitivity, dynamic range, contrast etc.

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
In my typical geeky fashion, I'm trying to wrap my head around all of the 
ramifications of adjusting sensitivity (ISO) on my camera. Please correct the 
errors in my understanding.

In the simplest form, it is a measure of how many LSBs per photon (or tens, 
thousands or millions of photons).

If the base is 10 photons, per LSB at ISO 100, 1,000 photons hitting a sensor 
site gives the value 100, at ISO 200, it'll give 200, and at 6,400 1,000 
photons will cause the raw fill to read 6,400 for that sensor site.

In a similar vein, if we have 14 bits of data, and at base ISO (100), 14 stops 
of dynamic range. That gives us a maximum data value of 16,384 which means at 
the above sensitivity, 163,840 photons will cause the sensor to read maximum 
value, and any more than that cause data to be clipped.
If we then increase the gain by a factor of two, then at ISO 200, we are 
expressing 13 stops of dynamic range in 14 bits of data, 5 photons will cause 
an LSB worth of change in the data, but it will only take 8,192 photons to clip 
in the data path.  

Since the data width is constant, every time we double the sensitivity, we 
force ourselves to only use the lower, noisier, half of the signal.  The 
benefit of this is that we can read that narrow band of the the sensor with 
more resolution so at ISO 12,800, rather than only having 7 bits of data for 
the lower 7 stops of dynamic range, we have 14 bits of data to work with. This 
is why using high ISOs give us more contrast.

It seems to me that if we are shooting a low contrast situation, such as clouds 
on a grey sky, or with a mediocre, low contrast lens, we could compensate by 
using a higher ISO to spread the fewer stops of dynamic range in the input out 
over more bits of data, at the cost of more noise, because we're constraining 
ourselves to the lower, noisier portion of the signal.

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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081
 
 Please tell me what you think.

Nice variation on the standard poppy shot, focusing on the subtle details in 
the petal rather than the stamens/pistils (I don't know which) in the center.  
It does look a lot redder than the standard California golden poppy, is that 
from the flower, or your processing?

 
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Re: PESO: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bulent Celasun


Oh! Life is everywhere... thankfully...



Except for news stands anymore.

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Re: PESO: LIFE!

2011-04-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Oh! Life is everywhere... thankfully...

 Except for news stands anymore.

You can still get it in the cereal aisle.

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Re: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog

2011-04-10 Thread Rick Womer
I like it.  The hints of blue sky are interesting.

Might work nicely in BW, too.

Rick

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 Subject: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 7:09 PM
 Seems to be the theme this week ;-).
 
 http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
 
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Re: understanding sensitivity, dynamic range, contrast etc.

2011-04-10 Thread David Parsons
Larry,

Read through this, it may help your understanding (or it may confuse
the hell out of you):

http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/noise-p3.html#ETTR

And the entire document:

http://theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix/20d/tests/noise/index.html



On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 In my typical geeky fashion, I'm trying to wrap my head around all of the 
 ramifications of adjusting sensitivity (ISO) on my camera. Please correct the 
 errors in my understanding.

 In the simplest form, it is a measure of how many LSBs per photon (or tens, 
 thousands or millions of photons).

 If the base is 10 photons, per LSB at ISO 100, 1,000 photons hitting a sensor 
 site gives the value 100, at ISO 200, it'll give 200, and at 6,400 1,000 
 photons will cause the raw fill to read 6,400 for that sensor site.

 In a similar vein, if we have 14 bits of data, and at base ISO (100), 14 
 stops of dynamic range. That gives us a maximum data value of 16,384 which 
 means at the above sensitivity, 163,840 photons will cause the sensor to read 
 maximum value, and any more than that cause data to be clipped.
 If we then increase the gain by a factor of two, then at ISO 200, we are 
 expressing 13 stops of dynamic range in 14 bits of data, 5 photons will cause 
 an LSB worth of change in the data, but it will only take 8,192 photons to 
 clip in the data path.

 Since the data width is constant, every time we double the sensitivity, we 
 force ourselves to only use the lower, noisier, half of the signal.  The 
 benefit of this is that we can read that narrow band of the the sensor with 
 more resolution so at ISO 12,800, rather than only having 7 bits of data for 
 the lower 7 stops of dynamic range, we have 14 bits of data to work with. 
 This is why using high ISOs give us more contrast.

 It seems to me that if we are shooting a low contrast situation, such as 
 clouds on a grey sky, or with a mediocre, low contrast lens, we could 
 compensate by using a higher ISO to spread the fewer stops of dynamic range 
 in the input out over more bits of data, at the cost of more noise, because 
 we're constraining ourselves to the lower, noisier portion of the signal.

 Is this basically accurate?

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Re: Focus chart help, please

2011-04-10 Thread William Robb

On 09/04/2011 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


I can't help with the Kx, as I don';t have one, but I would strongly advise 
against using any of the focus charts out there in favour of adjusting the 
focus against a real world (and real world distance) object.
Unless you are using a flat field lens, (you aren't) a focus chart is 
guaranteed to give a false front focus indication.


Why is that?  Haven't heard that before. I used a homemade chart to adjust all 
my lenses at a distance of six to eight feet, checking focus in the center of 
the lens. Seems to me that would be accurate. But I'm no expert at these things.



It was one of the things that occurred to me when everyone on 
ForumsNeurotica were dumping all over the K5 because it had difficulty 
resolving correct focus in near darkness with very fast lenses.


A couple of points to consider when using a focus chart, which for the 
purpose of discussion would be one similar to the famous Nikon D70 focus 
chart (view-able here in small size) http://pinterest.com/pin/4898728/ are:

Is the chart absolutely perpendicular to the lens axis?
If it isn't it will give a false read.
This is easy to see, since unless the lens is decentered, the degree of 
misfortune should be the same on either side of the chart.


So, the way to use one of these charts is to focus on the center line 
(in the case of Yvone Borques chart, the knife edge between black and 
white, but his chart is useless for technical reasons unrelated to lens 
curvature) and then read the degree of front focus in millimetres some 
distance from the point of AF.
If the lens has field curvature, and most do (macro lenses and enlarger 
lenses tend to be flat field), then field curvature is introducing some 
error, and unless the degree of curvature is known, the user has no way 
of knowing exactly how much error is being introduced.


I use a similar method to yours for dialing in lenses. I focus on an 
object (in my case a clock dial) at some distance from the camera using 
center point AF, and I then adjust AF by how well what I was focusing on 
is in focus.


This is very different from using the center focus point for focus and 
then looking at something that would be in the region of one of the far 
side points.


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Re: understanding sensitivity, dynamic range, contrast etc.

2011-04-10 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:27:53PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 In my typical geeky fashion, I'm trying to wrap my head around all of the 
 ramifications of adjusting sensitivity (ISO) on my camera. Please correct the 
 errors in my understanding.
 
 In the simplest form, it is a measure of how many LSBs per photon (or tens, 
 thousands or millions of photons).

[calculations elided]

 Is this basically accurate?

You're missing a few significant points.  The ISO gain is an analog 
amplification
stage, and so will itself introduce noise.  The higher the gain, the more noise.

The whole thing is an exercise in signal-to-noise ratio.  Counting photons 
doesn't
give you a whole extra bit of information if you increase the resolution of the
counter, because you're summing inherently noisy signals.  That means the 
signal-
to-noise ratio only goes up about half as fast as you would expect; to get a 
factor
of N increase in signal-to-noise ratio you need to increase the total count ny a
factor of N squared.





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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sasha,
You took it two steps further than my photo here.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10919767
I didn't hve the vision to push it as far as you did.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081

 Please tell me what you think.

 Nice variation on the standard poppy shot, focusing on the subtle details in 
 the petal rather than the stamens/pistils (I don't know which) in the center. 
  It does look a lot redder than the standard California golden poppy, is that 
 from the flower, or your processing?


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Another enablement

2011-04-10 Thread William Robb
Love the 40LTD for it's field of view, hate the lens for everything else 
so
I decided that perhaps a 43 LTD was in my future, and probably sooner 
rather than later.


Looked on Adorama's website and thought the price was OK, especially 
since the Canadian $ is a few cents more valuable than the Greenback, so 
I ordered one.
And the day it arrived, I noticed that Adorama had raised the price a 
hundred and fifty bucks over what I paid.

Somehow I luck out quite often on these things.
Anyway, it seems like an OK lens.
And winter here appears to be no longer hanging on like a wet turd on a 
dog's behind, so I might actually go out and use it one of these days.


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Help Naming A Bird

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
I need help from someone that knows birds. I captured a bird today and I am
not sure what the bird is named. Let me know and I will send you a picture
of the bird.

Thanks,
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Re: Another enablement

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
It is a nice lens although often overlooked.
I think Rick Wormer has had his out recently for a stroll.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:33 PM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 Love the 40LTD for it's field of view, hate the lens for everything else
 so
 I decided that perhaps a 43 LTD was in my future, and probably sooner rather
 than later.

 Looked on Adorama's website and thought the price was OK, especially since
 the Canadian $ is a few cents more valuable than the Greenback, so I ordered
 one.
 And the day it arrived, I noticed that Adorama had raised the price a
 hundred and fifty bucks over what I paid.
 Somehow I luck out quite often on these things.
 Anyway, it seems like an OK lens.
 And winter here appears to be no longer hanging on like a wet turd on a
 dog's behind, so I might actually go out and use it one of these days.

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Re: Another enablement

2011-04-10 Thread William Robb

On 10/04/2011 7:39 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bill,
It is a nice lens although often overlooked.
I think Rick Wormer has had his out recently for a stroll.


I got to thinking (which for me ALWAYS costs money) that when I was 
shooting 4x5, the 210 was my got to lens, and on the 6x7, the 135 was my 
lens of choice more often than not, and I always thought that for 35mm, 
something in the 60 or so mm range would work really well for me.
And it occurred to me that the 43 (which I eschewed on film) would 
probably work for me, especially since I really do like the AOV of the 40.


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RE: Help Naming A Bird

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thank You so much Matthew Hunt for helping me identify that my captured bird
is a Cooper's Hawk.


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Jeffery Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 8:35 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Help Naming A Bird

I need help from someone that knows birds. I captured a bird today and I am
not sure what the bird is named. Let me know and I will send you a picture
of the bird.

Thanks,
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Artists Bill Of Rights...

2011-04-10 Thread Tanya Love
A great photographer I know is working very hard on this, and I thought that
you guys, being the particularly anal bunch you are (hehe), might find it an
interesting read, and it might foster some interesting discussion:
 
http://artists-bill-of-rights.org/news/campaign-news/press-release,-artists-
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Re: Another enablement

2011-04-10 Thread Rick Womer
Nope, I don't have any limited lenses.  My primes are an FA 28/2.8 and 50/1.7, 
and a couple of macros.

Bill, what don't you like about the 40?  Send me an email if you decide to sell 
it.

Rick

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 Bill,
 It is a nice lens although often overlooked.
 I think Rick Wormer has had his out recently for a stroll.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:33 PM, William Robb
 anotherdrunken...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Love the 40LTD for it's field of view, hate the lens
 for everything else
  so
  I decided that perhaps a 43 LTD was in my future, and
 probably sooner rather
  than later.
 
  Looked on Adorama's website and thought the price was
 OK, especially since
  the Canadian $ is a few cents more valuable than the
 Greenback, so I ordered
  one.
  And the day it arrived, I noticed that Adorama had
 raised the price a
  hundred and fifty bucks over what I paid.
  Somehow I luck out quite often on these things.
  Anyway, it seems like an OK lens.
  And winter here appears to be no longer hanging on
 like a wet turd on a
  dog's behind, so I might actually go out and use it
 one of these days.
 
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PESO s spinning fire

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
I was at a birthday party last night and they brought out the poi to spin fire. 
 
I got a couple of decent shots.  The first was a 0.8 second exposure, with 
flash:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5607313780/in/set-72157626344718447/

The second, when the fire was going out, was a 0.8 second exposure, no flash, 
and a bit of post processing:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5606729703/in/set-72157626344718447/

Both, FA31, f/4.5 ISO 100

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RE: Artists Bill Of Rights...

2011-04-10 Thread Jeffery Johnson
I click the link and it brings up 404 error message.

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A great photographer I know is working very hard on this, and I thought that
you guys, being the particularly anal bunch you are (hehe), might find it an
interesting read, and it might foster some interesting discussion:
 
http://artists-bill-of-rights.org/news/campaign-news/press-release,-artists-
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Re: Another enablement

2011-04-10 Thread William Robb

On 10/04/2011 8:44 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Nope, I don't have any limited lenses.  My primes are an FA 28/2.8 and 50/1.7, 
and a couple of macros.

Bill, what don't you like about the 40?  Send me an email if you decide to sell 
it.



It's small and it's slow.
Other than that, I can't fault the thing, it makes good pictures.
Sadly though, I am somewhat of a collector, so selling it isn't in the 
cards. I have the full set of Limited lenses, both FA and DA, and I like 
it that way.


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Peso: Really Red

2011-04-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I took these shots this morning with the E-PL1 and my old m42 super
Takumar 55 f2.

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1247354829_4u7Td-L-LB

The flowers are so red that it obscures details . Desaturating shows
more detail but the flowers look wrong.  Any suggestions?
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PESO: Politics and Smiles

2011-04-10 Thread Tim Bray
Forgive me, I'm doing a series of blog posts under the rubric 100mm
of the day. This is one:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/10/-big/RUNE0267.jpg.html

If you want to know about the politics:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/10/10mm-Politics

- Tim

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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks everyone.
Larry, I am not sure but I think it is a tulip.
It is big and red.
Not California poppy for sure.

--S

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sasha,
 You took it two steps further than my photo here.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10919767
 I didn't hve the vision to push it as far as you did.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081

 Please tell me what you think.

 Nice variation on the standard poppy shot, focusing on the subtle details in 
 the petal rather than the stamens/pistils (I don't know which) in the 
 center.  It does look a lot redder than the standard California golden 
 poppy, is that from the flower, or your processing?


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Re: PESO s spinning fire

2011-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
No flash is especially cool. Well done shots, Larry!

Jack

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 Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 7:47 PM
 I was at a birthday party last night
 and they brought out the poi to spin fire.  
 I got a couple of decent shots.  The first was a 0.8
 second exposure, with flash:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5607313780/in/set-72157626344718447/
 
 The second, when the fire was going out, was a 0.8 second
 exposure, no flash, and a bit of post processing:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5606729703/in/set-72157626344718447/
 
 Both, FA31, f/4.5 ISO 100
 
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Re: PESO s spinning fire

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 10, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 No flash is especially cool. Well done shots, Larry!

Thanks.

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Re: Another enablement

2011-04-10 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:57 PM, William Robb wrote:

 On 10/04/2011 8:44 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 Nope, I don't have any limited lenses.  My primes are an FA 28/2.8 and 
 50/1.7, and a couple of macros.
 
 Bill, what don't you like about the 40?  Send me an email if you decide to 
 sell it.
 
 
 It's small and it's slow.
 Other than that, I can't fault the thing, it makes good pictures.
 Sadly though, I am somewhat of a collector, so selling it isn't in the cards. 
 I have the full set of Limited lenses, both FA and DA, and I like it that way.

Funny, I got it because it was small, and fell in love with the pictures it 
takes.  Put it on one of the newer small bodies (K-x, K-r) and they make an 
amazing combination for a compact walkaround camera, almost a poor man's X100. 


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Re: Artists Bill Of Rights...

2011-04-10 Thread Phil Northeast

On 11/04/11 12:50 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

I click the link and it brings up 404 error message.



http://artists-bill-of-rights.org/

try this


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-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Subject: Artists Bill Of Rights...

A great photographer I know is working very hard on this, and I thought that
you guys, being the particularly anal bunch you are (hehe), might find it an
interesting read, and it might foster some interesting discussion:

http://artists-bill-of-rights.org/news/campaign-news/press-release,-artists-
bill-of-rights-launch/

tan.x.




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Re: PESO: Politics and Smiles

2011-04-10 Thread William Robb

On 10/04/2011 8:59 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

Forgive me, I'm doing a series of blog posts under the rubric 100mm
of the day. This is one:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/10/-big/RUNE0267.jpg.html

If you want to know about the politics:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/10/10mm-Politics

- Tim



The picture doesn't do anything for me, but I really hope Saskatchewan 
reverts to it's typical NDPishness this time round.
They won't ever form a government, but in order to get rid of Harper, 
the conservatives have to be denied seats.



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photo panoramas

2011-04-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

For you, panorama lovers:

http://www.panoramas.classic-ru.org/

http://www.paris-26-gigapixels.com/index-en.html
http://www.360cities.net/london-photo-en.html

Cheers,

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four on the floor

2011-04-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

A snapshot from a milonga (tango dance party): 

http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR29738.jpg

I wish I had more DOF but it was not very brigh there...

Igor


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