date:20110909

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/07/The-Drive-by-Night

Low-light photography is so easy these days. When I was a kid we had
to fling individual photons at the Tri-X and try for an even grain
pattern.  -T

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

Now, that's a treat for the eye.  -T

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM,   wrote:
> I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image
> that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local
> gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.
>
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler,
> a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
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Re: Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2011

Thanks for digging that one up -T

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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14792580
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Re: OT PESO - On a Dime

Oooh, I like that one.

Think how much better it would've been if it'd been taken with a Pentax. -T

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Re: PESO: Listen Up!

Not bad at all, big smiles. -T

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> if she's bawling him out or what. Nice  one.
>
> Marnie the almost akaless :-)
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Re: PESO - Caution

Way cool. Did you try any with just the red, no yellow? -T

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Paul Sorenson


Works find for me, too.  IE9, both 32 and 64 bit, and Firefix 6.0.2

-p

On 9/9/2011 9:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Fernando  wrote:


I'm getting the same error as Bob when I try at work (IE6 and IE8).
Works fine here at home (IE9)


A "Bad Request" error doesn't sound like a browser problem.

Works fine for me in IE 8, Firefox 4, Opera 11.




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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


Rick, thanks for looking & commenting.

IIRC it was taken in February a number of years ago - in New Jersey.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'



Ummm...

Unless Joisey is someplace in New Zealand, this photo is way out of 
season.


But it's really, really good.

Rick


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From: kwal...@peoplepc.com 
Subject: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 3:47 PM
I might have posted this image
before, but I post it now to show an image that was awarded
second place in the color category at a recent local gallery
show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color
category.

I specifically entered this show since it was being judged
by Monte Nagler, a student of Ansel and a nationally know
photographer.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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Re: OT: Answers for Bob and Daniel ???

Dan, thanks for your dedication, service & sacrifaces made.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: OT: Answers for Bob and Daniel ???

I was in a Marine Phantom II squadron, VMFA-542, based in Da Nang,
Atsugi Japan 5 weeks) and Chu Lai.  I flew 280 missions in country and
north of the DMZ.
Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Joseph McAllister  
wrote:

On Sep 9, 2011, at 00:21 , Bob W wrote: Dan's answers below >>

that was a fascinating piece to read, Joe - thanks. Have you ever been 
over
here and followed in his railtracks? That would be an interesting 
holiday.

No chance I could afford such a trip now, unless I sold all my cameras 
and had all my credit cards paid off. Then what would be the point of 
going?  I have followed it on maps from Liverpool to Utah and 
through France and Germany. Even have a list of directions on how to get 
from Texas to the last place he was stationed. Hardest part was finding a 
train to cross the Atlantic.

Haven't been in Europe since 1974 while working as a contracted 
photographer who was supposed to allow planes full of tourists to leave 
their cameras at home. We built up a library of stock photos of the 
places and monuments that each type of tour would visit as part of the 
group, covering sunny, cloudy, and rainy days which would be the basis of 
each photo album we would pre-sell them. Then I was at the disposal of 
anyone who had bought the album beforehand, or anyone I could sell the 
concept to as we went along, to photograph them in front of attractions, 
eating at a table, or dancing the night away, sober or drunk. Those were 
then overnighted back to Massachusetts for processing the night before 
they group got back on their plane to return. I would have already met 
the group arriving at the airport that morning, then seen my last group 
off (same plane, same gate). The random shots were interspersed with the 
stock shots at appropriate places, and were ready for them to pick up as 
they deplaned in Boston.

It was quite a gig. I was young and thin, dapper in my light beige rough 
weave sports coat to which I had added epaulettes of similar weight 
material but in a psychedelic pattern of bright colors, popular at the 
time, so my damn Pentaxes and camera bag would stop falling off, 
interrupting my concentration on the subject at hand, usually the just 
divorced daughters who came with their mothers to brighten their lives 
after such a tragic event. Like I said, quite a fine gig for a 29 year 
old who was getting over his first divorce two years prior.

Yum.

On Sep 9, 2011, at 07:04 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

When were you "in country" Joseph?

Dan
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Actually only "in country" for 4 hours when I rode with the COD to 
deliver something to someone (wink-wink) in Saigon. Landed at Tan Son 
Nhut and hung out, then back to the USS Bon Homme Richard on Dixie 
station. Don't know what the package was, but it seemed important. 
Perhaps some film that had greater priority than the usual daily trip. I 
was trying to stay qualified so I'd get my flight pay every month, but 
was unable to catch another ride until we went home to NAS Miramar, now a 
Marine base. No longer Top Gun school. Sniff. ;-( Spent 10 months on the 
high seas! :-)

What base did you belong to?

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


Thanks for looking & commenting Ann.

In this case I had no issue with second place as the first place color shot 
was a really great portrait shot of a Maine lighthouse with layered rocks in 
the foreground - very well seen & executed.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'



if that's second place, what's 1st??

terrific shot,Ken and I don't remember seeing it before

ann


On 9/9/2011 15:47, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an
image that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent
local gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color
category.

I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte
Nagler, a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


Thanks for looking & commenting Jack.
These are more commonly called bungalows - cabanas sound more high 
falutting.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


Wonderful shot, Ken! Are these buildings beach cabanas?

Jack


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Subject: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image 
that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local 
gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.


I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler, 
a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


Thanks for looking & commenting Joseph

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- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 


Subject: Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


Very nice. Does the snow sparkle when seeing the original print? I'm 
guessing not because of the sun angle. Probably only in the area where the 
highlights seem blown.


I've only printed this on matte paper which subdues any sparkle that would 
be apparent. From the histogram, only very small slivers of the snow is 
blown out, mainly that piled up in front of the houses and atop some of the 
doors & awnings.


I think it's a gift you were able to get this without footprints or tracks. 
I then assume these are summer beach cottages, not heated (snow on roofs) 
and unoccupied. How far did you have to trudge?


Yep these are beach cottages and I was shooting from the main road that runs 
perpendicular to the row of houses. At the end of the row is the Atlantic 
Ocean. We were snowed in for several days & this was the first day we could 
get out & drive around, as I passed these houses my wife spotted this scene 
& insisted I back up & shoot it. I was probably 10 feet from my vehicle.


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I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte 
Nagler, a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152


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Re: Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2011

Stunning!
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Doug Franklin
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> On 2011-09-09 22:58, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Wow. Just wow.
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14792580
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Re: Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2011

2011-09-09 Thread Doug Franklin


On 2011-09-09 22:58, Mark Roberts wrote:

Wow. Just wow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14792580


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Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2011

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Roberts

Wow. Just wow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14792580


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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Makes sense, I'm sure if try any browser here at home it'll work.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Fernando  wrote:
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>>I'm getting the same error as Bob when I try at work (IE6 and IE8).
>>Works fine here at home (IE9)
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> A "Bad Request" error doesn't sound like a browser problem.
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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

Beautiful. Congratulations on the award, well deserved.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:47 PM,   wrote:
> I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image
> that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local
> gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.
>
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler,
> a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Roberts

Fernando  wrote:

>I'm getting the same error as Bob when I try at work (IE6 and IE8).
>Works fine here at home (IE9)

A "Bad Request" error doesn't sound like a browser problem.

Works fine for me in IE 8, Firefox 4, Opera 11.


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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread Rick Womer

Ummm... 

Unless Joisey is someplace in New Zealand, this photo is way out of season.

But it's really, really good.

Rick


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> From: kwal...@peoplepc.com 
> Subject: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 3:47 PM
> I might have posted this image
> before, but I post it now to show an image that was awarded
> second place in the color category at a recent local gallery
> show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color
> category.
> 
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged
> by Monte Nagler, a student of Ansel and a nationally know
> photographer.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
> 
> comments appreciated.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Just to chime in - I obviously was able to connect -- latest version of 
Firefox for me - You couldn't pay me to use IE


ann

On 9/9/2011 18:10, Brian Walters wrote:

On Friday, September 09, 2011 5:06 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
  wrote:

No joy.  Same problem with of the other links.  Thanks,  Bob S.





OK - thanks Bob.

It's a bit odd.  Presumably you've been able to view PUG galleries in
the past so I'm not sure what's changed that would case the current
problem.



Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Brian Walters
wrote:

On Friday, September 09, 2011 4:49 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
  wrote:

Brian,
IE8.  It sends back this error message...

Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.


User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MASA; BRI/1; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.2)





Thanks Bob - not sure what all that means.  Maybe Igor can shed some
light.

A couple of things to try.

Could you try this link to load the gallery direct from its subfolder:

http://pug.komkon.org/11sep/index.html



And could you try the previous gallery from this link:

http://pug.komkon.org/11aug/index.html



Cheers

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Hi Brian,

I'm getting the same error as Bob when I try at work (IE6 and IE8).
Works fine here at home (IE9)

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Bob, Fernando.
>
> Are you (or anyone else) still having the connection problem?  If so,
> what browser(s) are you using?
>
> One of the differences with this gallery is that some of the images have
> spaces in the file names. I usually remove them because some browsers
> seem to have problems when there are spaces in the names, but I forgot
> this time. However, that shouldn't stop the main thumbnail page from
> loading.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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>
>
> On Friday, September 09, 2011 12:39 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
>  wrote:
>> Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Brian Walters 
>> wrote:
>> > G'day all
>> >
>> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
>> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
>> > disturbing
>> >
>> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>> >
>> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>> >
>> > http://pug.komkon.org/
>> >
>> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
>> > there)
>> >
>> > +
>> >
>> > Next up - "Roads".
>> >
>> > Submit here:
>> >
>> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>> >
>> > Submission Guidelines here:
>> >
>> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>> >
>> >
>> > The main requirements are:
>> >
>> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>> > * Max file size: 300k
>> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>> > lens used is Pentax.
>> >
>> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
>> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
>> > line.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > ++
>> > Brian Walters
>> > Western Sydney Australia
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Bong Manayon

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:27 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Stan Halpin
>  wrote:
>> Now that you have the technique worked out, I suppose we will see a whole 
>> series like this (similar to the Japanese girl talked about here a month or 
>> two ago)?
>
> Phillipe Halsman's lawyers are drafting a cease and desist letter to
> Bong as we speak.
>
> ;-)

No need for that cease and desist...my knees decided no more :-D

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread Larry Colen



Lovely shot!

I love the blue tinge to it.

On 9/9/2011 12:47 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an 
image that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent 
local gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color 
category.


I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte 
Nagler, a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Philip Northeast


On 10/09/11 11:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Friday, September 09, 2011 8:13 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Doesn't work with AOL's built-in IE browser  (which is some older and off
version).

Works fine in the latest  Firefox.




I don't know what the problem is with IE.  I thought it might have been
an issue associated with IE8 but I just installed that version on my
VirtualBox running Win XP and it loaded the gallery fine.  Previously
that XP installation had IE6 installed and that worked as well.

So, why some of you hare having problems with IE is a mystery to which I
have no answer - other than to use some other browser.



Cheers

Brian

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Nice gallery! But, frankly, I have never worried about the  below. ;-)

I am now tempted to try for a self-portrait, one that hides as  much of
me
as possible, of course. I see some others did the same, so I would be  in
good company.

Marnie the almost akaless   ;-)

In a  message dated 9/9/2011 2:53:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pentax...@mac.com  writes:
Works fine with my iMac, Safari 5.1 - the latest

On Sep 9,  2011, at 10:39 , Bob Sullivan wrote:


Can't connect.  All I get  is BAD REQUEST
Regards,  Bob S.





works fine in Safari



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Re: PAW87 - Tunnel


Once again I am reduced to simply hating you.

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K-5, DA15mm, 1/25s, f/4.0, ISO100.

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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

2011-09-09 Thread Doug Franklin

I didn't get much in the way of railway photos, but I'd be happy to send 
you some of the shots I took back in '03 when Dad and I went to Normandy 
for the anniversary celebration.  Some of them I've posted on my 
Facebook galleries.


I'll cogitate on what I can do to help you follow their footsteps, so to 
speak.  It sounds like you've already mapped it out, at least partially. 
 Would you be willing to share those routes with me?


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Re: interesting trends...

2011-09-09 Thread Anthony Farr

On 9 September 2011 03:11, William Robb  wrote:
>
> Topcon, Miranda and Petri were gone long before AF came about. They left
> about the same time auto exposure came along.
>

Those three brands might have been marginalised by the rise of auto
exposure, but they managed to hang on for most of the seventies,
almost up to AF in SLRs.  As I recall, manual exposure was considered
normal at that time.  Using AE was practically an admission of
incompetence or laziness, so the paradigm shift from manual metering
to auto exposure was fairly gradual.

But AF was introduced in fixed lens compacts in 1977, and the the
first external AF systems like Pentax's ME-F followed closely (and
wasn't there some sort of kludged up AF in the Canon FD line?).  That
signalled a rush for the exits.  These companies raised the white flag
at that time, perhaps realising they weren't ready for another big
investment in new tech.  Konica didn't transition to AF, either, but
at least they didn't fold up.  Cosina survived by becoming an
outsourcing supplier while its own branded products moved into the
boutique category.  Chinon dissapeared from Western eyes but was doing
something interesting with electronics, enough for Kodak to buy them
out and run them to this day as a subsidiery.

Older manufacturing techniques probably supported lower outputs as
well.  Modern manufacturing demands higher volumes therefore supports
fewer brands.

I'd overlooked the rise of fixed lens compacts.  Getting first use of
AF boosted sales of compacts at the cost of SLRs, but getting zoom
lenses was an even bigger deal.  A lot of camera-buyers could now be
satisfied with a fixed lens camera, so one of the big advantages of
SLRs at the time, interchangeable lenses, was neutralised.

> You may as well toss Mamiya in there as well, with their lamentable 35mm SLR
> attempts.
> Yashica and Contax were one and the same at the time of AF, both were owned
> by Kyocera.
>

Can't comment about 35mm Mamiyas, but I always considered RB67s to be
pigs of cameras to use, and the lenses had horrible veiling flare.

Yashica never got AF and launched its last model in 1986.  As an
amateur targeted camera it couldn't maintain viable sales without AF.
Contax survived longer because AF wasn't a priority in most
professionals' choice of camera in those times.  Similarly, Olympus
kept upgrading its pro OM series, finishing with the last OM4Ti being
made in 2002.  Even companies that embraced AF kept some manual focus
pro grade cameras in their catalogues long after the introduction of
AF.  Witness the Pentax LX and Nikon F3 and FM-3A, which stayed in
production beyond 2000.  Meanwhile Leicaflexes continued their steady
trickle out of the factory (there'll always be orthodontists).  But
there weren't enough rich nonconformists to save ALPA, whose final
Swiss model launched in 1976.  ALPA's Chinon-made models, being
incompatible with Swiss-made models and too cheap to interest their
old customers, saw it fade away almost un-noticed in the eighties.
Rollei blundered through in fits and starts, but it was inept
management and a failure to exercise good quality control at their
offshore factory in SIngapore that killed their reputation and finally
them, not misconceived products or paradigm shifts.

>
> EVF type cameras are going to happen, whether we want or like them or not.
> They cost less to produce, which makes them attractive to manufacturers, and
> they are the newest thing, which makes them attractive to marketers and
> people who buy based on hype rather than function.
> My only hope is that they can make a decent EVF (they are still crap) before
> the choice of optical viewfinder is taken away from us entirely.
>

EVFs will improve without a doubt.  Reflex viewfinders are past their
peak, they were better in 1980 than they are in in 2011.  There's too
much information being overlayed on and around  the picture-composing
area.  At least with an EVF you can customise the view, or strip it
away to a naked view of just the image with no information.

Fuji's hybrid finder is interesting but needs more work to get issues
like angle of view and eye relief sorted. (from what I've heard, not
hands-on experience).

Optical viewfinders are again becoming popular because AF is so
reliable you don't need to see focus in many circumstances.  Face
recognition works well to grab focus on any people in the frame,
particularly when there's just one person in the frame.

My beef with modern cameras is that the three vital pieces of
information that I want to see instantly and instinctively are buried
in a sea of minor information.  Sensitivity, aperture and shutter
speed!  98% of the time thats all I want to see.  I want to look at
the top of the camera, without having to raise it to my eye or turn on
the rear LCD, and see those three basic settings, like photographers
have done for decades upon decades.  OK, so your premium cameras with
top deck LCDs do this, but they're an exception and bec

Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

On Friday, September 09, 2011 8:13 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> Doesn't work with AOL's built-in IE browser  (which is some older and off 
> version).
> 
> Works fine in the latest  Firefox.



I don't know what the problem is with IE.  I thought it might have been
an issue associated with IE8 but I just installed that version on my
VirtualBox running Win XP and it loaded the gallery fine.  Previously
that XP installation had IE6 installed and that worked as well.

So, why some of you hare having problems with IE is a mystery to which I
have no answer - other than to use some other browser.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


> 
> Nice gallery! But, frankly, I have never worried about the  below. ;-)
> 
> I am now tempted to try for a self-portrait, one that hides as  much of
> me 
> as possible, of course. I see some others did the same, so I would be  in 
> good company.
> 
> Marnie the almost akaless   ;-)
> 
> In a  message dated 9/9/2011 2:53:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> pentax...@mac.com  writes:
> Works fine with my iMac, Safari 5.1 - the latest
> 
> On Sep 9,  2011, at 10:39 , Bob Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > Can't connect.  All I get  is BAD REQUEST
> > Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: OT: Answers for Bob and Daniel ???

Dan,
Thanks for your service.
280 missions is a lot.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I was in a Marine Phantom II squadron, VMFA-542, based in Da Nang,
> Atsugi Japan 5 weeks) and Chu Lai.  I flew 280 missions in country and
> north of the DMZ.
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>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 00:21 , Bob W wrote:   Dan's answers below >>
>>
>>> that was a fascinating piece to read, Joe - thanks. Have you ever been over
>>> here and followed in his railtracks? That would be an interesting holiday.
>>
>> No chance I could afford such a trip now, unless I sold all my cameras and 
>> had all my credit cards paid off. Then what would be the point of going?  
>>     I have followed it on maps from Liverpool to Utah and through 
>> France and Germany. Even have a list of directions on how to get from Texas 
>> to the last place he was stationed. Hardest part was finding a train to 
>> cross the Atlantic.
>>
>> Haven't been in Europe since 1974 while working as a contracted photographer 
>> who was supposed to allow planes full of tourists to leave their cameras at 
>> home. We built up a library of stock photos of the places and monuments that 
>> each type of tour would visit as part of the group, covering sunny, cloudy, 
>> and rainy days which would be the basis of each photo album we would 
>> pre-sell them. Then I was at the disposal of anyone who had bought the album 
>> beforehand, or anyone I could sell the concept to as we went along, to 
>> photograph them in front of attractions, eating at a table, or dancing the 
>> night away, sober or drunk. Those were then overnighted back to 
>> Massachusetts for processing the night before they group got back on their 
>> plane to return. I would have already met the group arriving at the airport 
>> that morning, then seen my last group off (same plane, same gate). The 
>> random shots were interspersed with the stock shots at appropriate places, 
>> and were ready for them to pick up as they deplaned in Boston.
>>
>> It was quite a gig. I was young and thin, dapper in my light beige rough 
>> weave sports coat to which I had added epaulettes of similar weight material 
>> but in a psychedelic pattern of bright colors, popular at the time, so my 
>> damn Pentaxes and camera bag would stop falling off, interrupting my 
>> concentration on the subject at hand, usually the just divorced daughters 
>> who came with their mothers to brighten their lives after such a tragic 
>> event. Like I said, quite a fine gig for a 29 year old who was getting over 
>> his first divorce two years prior.
>>
>> Yum.
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 07:04 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>> When were you "in country" Joseph?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> Actually only "in country" for 4 hours when I rode with the COD to deliver 
>> something to someone (wink-wink) in Saigon. Landed at Tan Son Nhut and hung 
>> out, then back to the USS Bon Homme Richard on Dixie station. Don't know 
>> what the package was, but it seemed important. Perhaps some film that had 
>> greater priority than the usual daily trip. I was trying to stay qualified 
>> so I'd get my flight pay every month, but was unable to catch another ride 
>> until we went home to NAS Miramar, now a Marine base. No longer Top Gun 
>> school. Sniff.  ;-(    Spent 10 months on the high seas!  :-)
>>
>> What base did you belong to?
>>
>> Joseph McAllister
>> pentax...@mac.com
>>
>> “ Nature is considerably more creative and inventive than humankind. Without 
>> Nature there isn't any humankind. Without humankind, Nature is fine.”
>>
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Re: OT PESO - Selfy

2011-09-09 Thread Larry Colen


On Sep 9, 2011, at 11:26 AM, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> In the spirit of the current PUG theme it's a self portrait:

There's only one of you in it.

> 
> 

Very nice.  The mixed color temperatures add in interesting bit  of surrealism.


> 
> D700, AF-S 14-24mm @ 14mm, 15 seconds @ f5.6, ISO 6400
> 
> That'll be the last one from me for a while.
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: OT: Answers for Bob and Daniel ???

I was in a Marine Phantom II squadron, VMFA-542, based in Da Nang,
Atsugi Japan 5 weeks) and Chu Lai.  I flew 280 missions in country and
north of the DMZ.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 00:21 , Bob W wrote:   Dan's answers below >>
>
>> that was a fascinating piece to read, Joe - thanks. Have you ever been over
>> here and followed in his railtracks? That would be an interesting holiday.
>
> No chance I could afford such a trip now, unless I sold all my cameras and 
> had all my credit cards paid off. Then what would be the point of going?  
>     I have followed it on maps from Liverpool to Utah and through 
> France and Germany. Even have a list of directions on how to get from Texas 
> to the last place he was stationed. Hardest part was finding a train to cross 
> the Atlantic.
>
> Haven't been in Europe since 1974 while working as a contracted photographer 
> who was supposed to allow planes full of tourists to leave their cameras at 
> home. We built up a library of stock photos of the places and monuments that 
> each type of tour would visit as part of the group, covering sunny, cloudy, 
> and rainy days which would be the basis of each photo album we would pre-sell 
> them. Then I was at the disposal of anyone who had bought the album 
> beforehand, or anyone I could sell the concept to as we went along, to 
> photograph them in front of attractions, eating at a table, or dancing the 
> night away, sober or drunk. Those were then overnighted back to Massachusetts 
> for processing the night before they group got back on their plane to return. 
> I would have already met the group arriving at the airport that morning, then 
> seen my last group off (same plane, same gate). The random shots were 
> interspersed with the stock shots at appropriate places, and were ready for 
> them to pick up as they deplaned in Boston.
>
> It was quite a gig. I was young and thin, dapper in my light beige rough 
> weave sports coat to which I had added epaulettes of similar weight material 
> but in a psychedelic pattern of bright colors, popular at the time, so my 
> damn Pentaxes and camera bag would stop falling off, interrupting my 
> concentration on the subject at hand, usually the just divorced daughters who 
> came with their mothers to brighten their lives after such a tragic event. 
> Like I said, quite a fine gig for a 29 year old who was getting over his 
> first divorce two years prior.
>
> Yum.
>
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 07:04 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> When were you "in country" Joseph?
>>
>> Dan
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> Actually only "in country" for 4 hours when I rode with the COD to deliver 
> something to someone (wink-wink) in Saigon. Landed at Tan Son Nhut and hung 
> out, then back to the USS Bon Homme Richard on Dixie station. Don't know what 
> the package was, but it seemed important. Perhaps some film that had greater 
> priority than the usual daily trip. I was trying to stay qualified so I'd get 
> my flight pay every month, but was unable to catch another ride until we went 
> home to NAS Miramar, now a Marine base. No longer Top Gun school. Sniff.  ;-( 
>    Spent 10 months on the high seas!  :-)
>
> What base did you belong to?
>
> Joseph McAllister
> pentax...@mac.com
>
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> Nature there isn't any humankind. Without humankind, Nature is fine.”
>
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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-09 Thread Larry Colen


On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-09-08 11:39 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>> After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I have been 
>> catching up w/o participating. 
> 
> Sorry to hear that. I hope you're well recovered.

me too  
> 
> 
>> Herewith is my 1st offering for C&C.
>> 
>> http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one
> 
> Nice. I like the PoV and composition, Don.  I think, though, that the local 
> contrast boosting is a little too obvious (visible as a dark halo around the 
> building edges, against the sky).

The dark halo caught my eye too.  I'd burn in the rest of the sky to match the 
darkness of the halo, which I think would make the white building pop a bit 
more.

Overall though, it's a great shot.


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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi Ken,

I remember that shot very well. Absolutely stunning, and it brings back great 
memories of "the shaw." Congratiulations. Well deserved.

Paul
On Sep 9, 2011, at 3:47 PM,   wrote:

> I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image 
> that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local gallery 
> show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.
> 
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler, a 
> student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
> 
> comments appreciated.
> 
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> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller 
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Eactivist

Doesn't work with AOL's built-in IE browser  (which is some older and off 
version).

Works fine in the latest  Firefox.

Nice gallery! But, frankly, I have never worried about the  below. ;-)

I am now tempted to try for a self-portrait, one that hides as  much of me 
as possible, of course. I see some others did the same, so I would be  in 
good company.

Marnie the almost akaless   ;-)

In a  message dated 9/9/2011 2:53:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
pentax...@mac.com  writes:
Works fine with my iMac, Safari 5.1 - the latest

On Sep 9,  2011, at 10:39 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Can't connect.  All I get  is BAD REQUEST
> Regards,  Bob S.

Joseph  McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

The Big Bang was silent, and   invisible in it's beginning moments.
Photons were one of the earliest  particles to develop, 
but I don't think any were able to escape for a little  bit more.
Once they could, there would have been a flash during  expansion.
No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion  years.
Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time
to  that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt 
to see  what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt 
will fail  in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements 
are now moving  faster than light by recent theory, making the 
information sought beyond a  theoretical event horizon.

— update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on  particle physics, so far.  

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'


if that's second place, what's 1st??

terrific shot,Ken and I don't remember seeing it before

ann


On 9/9/2011 15:47, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an
image that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent
local gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color
category.

I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte
Nagler, a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller



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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

On Friday, September 09, 2011 5:06 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
 wrote:
> No joy.  Same problem with of the other links.  Thanks,  Bob S.
> 



OK - thanks Bob.

It's a bit odd.  Presumably you've been able to view PUG galleries in
the past so I'm not sure what's changed that would case the current
problem.



Cheers

Brian

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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 4:49 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
> >  wrote:
> >> Brian,
> >> IE8.  It sends back this error message...
> >>
> >> Bad Request
> >> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> >> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.
> >>
> >>
> >> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
> >> Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
> >> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MASA; BRI/1; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.2)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Bob - not sure what all that means.  Maybe Igor can shed some
> > light.
> >
> > A couple of things to try.
> >
> > Could you try this link to load the gallery direct from its subfolder:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/11sep/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > And could you try the previous gallery from this link:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/11aug/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

No joy.  Same problem with of the other links.  Thanks,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Friday, September 09, 2011 4:49 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
>  wrote:
>> Brian,
>> IE8.  It sends back this error message...
>>
>> Bad Request
>> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
>> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.
>>
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
>> Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
>> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MASA; BRI/1; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.2)
>>
>
>
>
> Thanks Bob - not sure what all that means.  Maybe Igor can shed some
> light.
>
> A couple of things to try.
>
> Could you try this link to load the gallery direct from its subfolder:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/11sep/index.html
>
>
>
> And could you try the previous gallery from this link:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/11aug/index.html
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Apache/1.3.41 Server at www.komkon.org Port 80
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Brian Walters 
>> wrote:
>> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:52 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
>> >  wrote:
>> >> They won't open in IE 8, while they work with Firefox 3.6.
>> >> Dario
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, thanks.  I'll see if I can find a copy of IE8 to test.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > ++
>> > Brian Walters
>> > Western Sydney Australia
>> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Brian Walters" 
>> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:39 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Dario
>> >> >
>> >> > That's odd.  They open OK for me.
>> >> >
>> >> > What browser are you using?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > Brian
>> >> >
>> >> > ++
>> >> > Brian Walters
>> >> > Western Sydney Australia
>> >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Hello Brian,
>> >> >> Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from
>> >> >> thumbnails.
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Dario
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Original Message -
>> >> >> From: "Brian Walters" 
>> >> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
>> >> >> Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > G'day all
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
>> >> >> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
>> >> >> > disturbing
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as 
>> >> >> > well.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
>> >> >> > there)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Next up - "Roads".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Submit here:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Submission Guidelines here:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The main requirements are:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>> >> >> > * Max file size: 300k
>> >> >> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > lens used is Pentax.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a
>> >> >> > colour
>> >> >> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > line.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cheers
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Brian
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ++
>> >> >> > Brian Walters
>> >> >> > Western Sydney Australia
>> >> >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

On Friday, September 09, 2011 4:49 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
 wrote:
> Brian,
> IE8.  It sends back this error message...
> 
> Bad Request
> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.
> 
> 
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
> Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MASA; BRI/1; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.2)
> 



Thanks Bob - not sure what all that means.  Maybe Igor can shed some
light.

A couple of things to try.

Could you try this link to load the gallery direct from its subfolder:

http://pug.komkon.org/11sep/index.html



And could you try the previous gallery from this link:

http://pug.komkon.org/11aug/index.html



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/








> 
> 
> 
> Apache/1.3.41 Server at www.komkon.org Port 80
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:52 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
> >  wrote:
> >> They won't open in IE 8, while they work with Firefox 3.6.
> >> Dario
> >
> >
> >
> > OK, thanks.  I'll see if I can find a copy of IE8 to test.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >
> >
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Brian Walters" 
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:39 PM
> >> Subject: Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
> >>
> >>
> >> > Dario
> >> >
> >> > That's odd.  They open OK for me.
> >> >
> >> > What browser are you using?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> > ++
> >> > Brian Walters
> >> > Western Sydney Australia
> >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Hello Brian,
> >> >> Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from
> >> >> thumbnails.
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Dario
> >> >>
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >> From: "Brian Walters" 
> >> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
> >> >> Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > G'day all
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> >> >> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> >> >> > disturbing
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> >> >> > there)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > +
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Next up - "Roads".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Submit here:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Submission Guidelines here:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The main requirements are:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> >> >> > * Max file size: 300k
> >> >> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > lens used is Pentax.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a
> >> >> > colour
> >> >> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > line.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Brian
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ++
> >> >> > Brian Walters
> >> >> > Western Sydney Australia
> >> >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

Ken,
Congratulations on the award.  It is well deserved.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:47 PM,   wrote:
> I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image
> that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local
> gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.
>
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler,
> a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
>
> comments appreciated.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Joseph McAllister

Works fine with my iMac, Safari 5.1 - the latest

On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:39 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST
> Regards,  Bob S.

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

The Big Bang was silent, and  invisible in it's beginning moments.
Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, 
but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more.
Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion.
No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years.
Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time
to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt 
to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt 
will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements 
are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the 
information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon.

— update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far.

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Brian,
IE8.  It sends back this error message...

Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.


User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MASA; BRI/1; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.2)




Apache/1.3.41 Server at www.komkon.org Port 80

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:52 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
>  wrote:
>> They won't open in IE 8, while they work with Firefox 3.6.
>> Dario
>
>
>
> OK, thanks.  I'll see if I can find a copy of IE8 to test.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brian Walters" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
>>
>>
>> > Dario
>> >
>> > That's odd.  They open OK for me.
>> >
>> > What browser are you using?
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > ++
>> > Brian Walters
>> > Western Sydney Australia
>> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Hello Brian,
>> >> Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from
>> >> thumbnails.
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Dario
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Brian Walters" 
>> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
>> >> Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > G'day all
>> >> >
>> >> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
>> >> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
>> >> > disturbing
>> >> >
>> >> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>> >> >
>> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/
>> >> >
>> >> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
>> >> > there)
>> >> >
>> >> > +
>> >> >
>> >> > Next up - "Roads".
>> >> >
>> >> > Submit here:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>> >> >
>> >> > Submission Guidelines here:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The main requirements are:
>> >> >
>> >> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>> >> > * Max file size: 300k
>> >> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
>> >> > or
>> >> > lens used is Pentax.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a
>> >> > colour
>> >> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right
>> >> > on
>> >> > line.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > Brian
>> >> >
>> >> > ++
>> >> > Brian Walters
>> >> > Western Sydney Australia
>> >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >
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Re: OT PESO - On a Dime

On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:52 AM, "David Savage"
 wrote:
> G'day All,
> 
> 
> 
> D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 135mm, 1/320 @ f2.8, ISO 6400.



Great timing on that.  The pose of the rider and her facial expression
are wonderful.  Really captures the action well.



Cheers

Brian

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> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:52 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:
> They won't open in IE 8, while they work with Firefox 3.6.
> Dario



OK, thanks.  I'll see if I can find a copy of IE8 to test.



Cheers

Brian

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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
> 
> 
> > Dario
> >
> > That's odd.  They open OK for me.
> >
> > What browser are you using?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
> >  wrote:
> >> Hello Brian,
> >> Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from
> >> thumbnails.
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dario
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Brian Walters" 
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
> >> Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
> >>
> >>
> >> > G'day all
> >> >
> >> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> >> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> >> > disturbing
> >> >
> >> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
> >> >
> >> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
> >> >
> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >> >
> >> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> >> > there)
> >> >
> >> > +
> >> >
> >> > Next up - "Roads".
> >> >
> >> > Submit here:
> >> >
> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >> >
> >> > Submission Guidelines here:
> >> >
> >> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The main requirements are:
> >> >
> >> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> >> > * Max file size: 300k
> >> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body 
> >> > or
> >> > lens used is Pentax.
> >> >
> >> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a 
> >> > colour
> >> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right 
> >> > on
> >> > line.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> > ++
> >> > Brian Walters
> >> > Western Sydney Australia
> >> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >> > -- 
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Bob, Fernando.

Are you (or anyone else) still having the connection problem?  If so,
what browser(s) are you using?

One of the differences with this gallery is that some of the images have
spaces in the file names. I usually remove them because some browsers
seem to have problems when there are spaces in the names, but I forgot
this time. However, that shouldn't stop the main thumbnail page from
loading.



Cheers

Brian

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On Friday, September 09, 2011 12:39 PM, "Bob Sullivan"
 wrote:
> Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > G'day all
> >
> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> > disturbing
> >
> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
> >
> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >
> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> > there)
> >
> > +
> >
> > Next up - "Roads".
> >
> > Submit here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> > Submission Guidelines here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >
> >
> > The main requirements are:
> >
> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> > * Max file size: 300k
> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> > lens used is Pentax.
> >
> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
> > line.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread Jack Davis

Wonderful shot, Ken! Are these buildings beach cabanas?

Jack

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Subject: PESO - 'Joisey Shore' 

I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image that 
was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local gallery show. 
Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.

I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler, a 
student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread David Savage

I remember this shot.

Nicely done & congratulations on your placing.

Cheers,

Dave

On 10 September 2011 03:47,   wrote:
> I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image
> that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local
> gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.
>
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler,
> a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
>
> comments appreciated.
>
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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread Joseph McAllister

Very nice. Does the snow sparkle when seeing the original print? I'm guessing 
not because of the sun angle. Probably only in the area where the highlights 
seem blown.

I think it's a gift you were able to get this without footprints or tracks. I 
then assume these are summer beach cottages, not heated (snow on roofs) and 
unoccupied. How far did you have to trudge?

On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:47 , kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler, a 
> student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

That's a beautiful shot.
Congrats on the award!

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Re: OT: Answers for Bob and Daniel ???

2011-09-09 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 9, 2011, at 00:21 , Bob W wrote:   Dan's answers below >>

> that was a fascinating piece to read, Joe - thanks. Have you ever been over
> here and followed in his railtracks? That would be an interesting holiday.

No chance I could afford such a trip now, unless I sold all my cameras and had 
all my credit cards paid off. Then what would be the point of going?  
I have followed it on maps from Liverpool to Utah and through France and 
Germany. Even have a list of directions on how to get from Texas to the last 
place he was stationed. Hardest part was finding a train to cross the Atlantic.

Haven't been in Europe since 1974 while working as a contracted photographer 
who was supposed to allow planes full of tourists to leave their cameras at 
home. We built up a library of stock photos of the places and monuments that 
each type of tour would visit as part of the group, covering sunny, cloudy, and 
rainy days which would be the basis of each photo album we would pre-sell them. 
Then I was at the disposal of anyone who had bought the album beforehand, or 
anyone I could sell the concept to as we went along, to photograph them in 
front of attractions, eating at a table, or dancing the night away, sober or 
drunk. Those were then overnighted back to Massachusetts for processing the 
night before they group got back on their plane to return. I would have already 
met the group arriving at the airport that morning, then seen my last group off 
(same plane, same gate). The random shots were interspersed with the stock 
shots at appropriate places, and were ready for them to pick up as they 
deplaned in Boston.

It was quite a gig. I was young and thin, dapper in my light beige rough weave 
sports coat to which I had added epaulettes of similar weight material but in a 
psychedelic pattern of bright colors, popular at the time, so my damn Pentaxes 
and camera bag would stop falling off, interrupting my concentration on the 
subject at hand, usually the just divorced daughters who came with their 
mothers to brighten their lives after such a tragic event. Like I said, quite a 
fine gig for a 29 year old who was getting over his first divorce two years 
prior.

Yum.

On Sep 9, 2011, at 07:04 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> When were you "in country" Joseph?
> 
> Dan
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

Actually only "in country" for 4 hours when I rode with the COD to deliver 
something to someone (wink-wink) in Saigon. Landed at Tan Son Nhut and hung 
out, then back to the USS Bon Homme Richard on Dixie station. Don't know what 
the package was, but it seemed important. Perhaps some film that had greater 
priority than the usual daily trip. I was trying to stay qualified so I'd get 
my flight pay every month, but was unable to catch another ride until we went 
home to NAS Miramar, now a Marine base. No longer Top Gun school. Sniff.  ;-(   
 Spent 10 months on the high seas!  :-)

What base did you belong to?

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Re: PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

Wow.  Not what I had expected.  

Great composition and very dramatic.  I like the subdued light and
subtle colors.  The rows of cottages form a strong diagonal that
focuses my attention on the snow drifts and leads my eye to the dark
and forbidding sky.  A real prize winner, that's for certain.

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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:47 PM,   wrote:
> I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image
> that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local
> gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.
>
> I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler,
> a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152
>
> comments appreciated.
>
> Kenneth Waller
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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1


Never heard it called white space. I am familiar with negative space.

In landscape photography, blank sky is something to be avoided/minimized.
In this particular image I felt it was something to be minimized.

YMMV

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Subject: Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1



I call it white space, which is more of a graphic design term. In
art/composition it is usually called "negative space". It's not
something I came up with.
: )
The negative space (sky) in the building photo that started this
thread helps to make the building height look more imposing than it
would if it was cropped out (IMHO).

http://www.tutorial9.net/articles/design/enhancing-your-art-with-negative-space/
http://www.photographyicon.com/negativespace/
http://www.apogeephoto.com/mag1-3/mag1-3mf1.shtml

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PESO - 'Joisey Shore'

2011-09-09 Thread kwaller

I might have posted this image before, but I post it now to show an image 
that was awarded second place in the color category at a recent local 
gallery show. Around 150 images were entered in B+W and color category.


I specifically entered this show since it was being judged by Monte Nagler, 
a student of Ansel and a nationally know photographer.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152

comments appreciated.

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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

I call it white space, which is more of a graphic design term. In
art/composition it is usually called "negative space". It's not
something I came up with.
: )
The negative space (sky) in the building photo that started this
thread helps to make the building height look more imposing than it
would if it was cropped out (IMHO).

http://www.tutorial9.net/articles/design/enhancing-your-art-with-negative-space/
http://www.photographyicon.com/negativespace/
http://www.apogeephoto.com/mag1-3/mag1-3mf1.shtml

Darren Addy
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Re: PESO -- Every picture tells a story.

2011-09-09 Thread Jack Davis

I agree, Peter. Evocative shot.

Jack


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Subject: PESO -- Every picture tells a story.

I was taken by this young woman's semi relaxed pose.  I don't know her, but I 
made up a story in my head, you can make up your own.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20everypicturetellsastory.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up


All fine here with IE 7

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up


On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:


Can't connect. All I get is BAD REQUEST


Did you say "please"?

Seriously, I've had no problems with it, using Firefox 5 and IE 8.


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Re: Fuji stops produntion of several more film types


On 9/9/2011 2:58 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Thanks for passing this along. Funny, but it looks the the future of
film is going to be mainly B&W.

I've thought so for some time.  Though there may be a niche for consumer 
grade color film in single use cameras.  Every attempt at this in 
digital has so far failed on some level.



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PESO -- Every picture tells a story.

I was taken by this young woman's semi relaxed pose.  I don't know her, 
but I made up a story in my head, you can make up your own.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20everypicturetellsastory.html

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Thanks for passing this along. Funny, but it looks the the future of
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST

Did you say "please"?

Seriously, I've had no problems with it, using Firefox 5 and IE 8.

>> http://pug.komkon.org/

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

The link works fine for me.

What browser are you using?

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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> G'day all
>>
>> The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
>> from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
>> disturbing
>>
>> There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>>
>> You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
>> there)
>>
>> +
>>
>> Next up - "Roads".
>>
>> Submit here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>> Submission Guidelines here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>
>>
>> The main requirements are:
>>
>> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>> * Max file size: 300k
>> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>> lens used is Pentax.
>>
>> Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
>> space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
>> line.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

me 2

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> G'day all
>>
>> The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
>> from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
>> disturbing
>>
>> There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>>
>> You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
>> there)
>>
>> +
>>
>> Next up - "Roads".
>>
>> Submit here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>> Submission Guidelines here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>
>>
>> The main requirements are:
>>
>> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>> * Max file size: 300k
>> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>> lens used is Pentax.
>>
>> Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
>> space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
>> line.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1


White space is your friend.


Care to elaborate?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Addy" 


Subject: Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1



On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
Well seen & captured but I'd eliminate about half of the blank sky above 
the

building.


While I might agree with an earlier comment about the over-cooked
contrast, I disagree with this one.
White space is your friend.


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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1


White space is your friend.


Mark !

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Subject: Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1



On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
Well seen & captured but I'd eliminate about half of the blank sky above 
the

building.


While I might agree with an earlier comment about the over-cooked
contrast, I disagree with this one.
White space is your friend.


Darren Addy
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OT PESO - Selfy

2011-09-09 Thread David Savage

G'day All,

In the spirit of the current PUG theme it's a self portrait:



D700, AF-S 14-24mm @ 14mm, 15 seconds @ f5.6, ISO 6400

That'll be the last one from me for a while.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-09 Thread Jack Davis

Don, to asses the balance of the sky, I reduced the image so as of to be able 
to view it full length. Looks comfortable to me as is. I, also, like the 
density and shape of the black sky.

Jack 


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Subject: Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

Thanks for the tip Ken. I looked at the photo again & cropping the top 
seemed to change the perspective slightly but made for a tighter 
composition I suppose. Taken under advisement before I make a print.

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> Well seen & captured but I'd eliminate about half of the blank sky above the
> building.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

Jack, Thanks for looking and your kind comments

> From: Jack Davis 
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> Exceedingly well done, Don.? DOF and lighting, superb!
>
> Jack
>
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for the Fall shooting season. Thanks for looking.

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> Glad to have you back, Don.
> I like it a lot.



Bruce I am recovered but still working on my stamina.

I too noticed the halo when I looked at the Posterous version but it was 
less obvious in Aperture where I processed it. Something to watch for in 
the future. Thanks for the constructive comments.




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> On 11-09-08 11:39 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>> After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I
>> have been catching up w/o participating.
> Sorry to hear that. I hope you're well recovered.
>
>
>> Herewith is my 1st offering for C&C.
>>
>> http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one
> Nice. I like the PoV and composition, Don.  I think, though, that the
> local contrast boosting is a little too obvious (visible as a dark halo
> around the building edges, against the sky).
>
> -bmw



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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Can't connect.  All I get is BAD REQUEST
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> disturbing
>
> There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>
> You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> there)
>
> +
>
> Next up - "Roads".
>
> Submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Submission Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
>
> The main requirements are:
>
> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> * Max file size: 300k
> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> lens used is Pentax.
>
> Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
> space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
> line.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread frank theriault

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> Now that you have the technique worked out, I suppose we will see a whole 
> series like this (similar to the Japanese girl talked about here a month or 
> two ago)?

Phillipe Halsman's lawyers are drafting a cease and desist letter to
Bong as we speak.

;-)

cheers,
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The biggest advantage in mirror-less cameras is manufacturing.
Precision hand assembly is minimized, (as opposed to precision machine
manufacturing), so the cameras are less expensive to build. (Front
engine automobiles are the same thing. Manufacturing is simplified, but
not much else). However once the public is convinced that something is
superior. then reality has little impact, and if the new product is good
enough, that's all that matters.

It's funny really, because some of the new m43 lenses are really pretty
poor performers by some traditional measures, distortion in particular.
But clever programming either in the camera firmware or the raw
converter hides this from even the most sophisticated user, and most
users aren't that sophisticated.

On 9/8/2011 8:04 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I'm really curious to see a "Q review". Still, it's really expensive.
I think it would have a real chance at $400-500.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM, William Robb
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 3:49 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

On 8 September 2011 12:35, Subashwrote:

these are only figures for japan/asia but interesting nonetheless.
canon and nikon lose a combined 35% market share while sony doubles it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/canon-clinging-to-mirrors-means-opportunity-for-sony-cameras.html

so, is the dslr dead yet? perhaps there's hope for the Q :)

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I found this quote quite revealing,
" 'Mirrorless cameras are a threat,' said David Rubenstein, a
Tokyo-based analyst at MF Global FXA Securities Ltd"

I guess they would be a threat to companies that choose to oppose the
trend rather than embrace it.

Some observations:

Non adoption of autofocus cut the SLR market from perhaps twenty or
more brands in the sixties and early seventies to less than ten.
(Topcon, anyone? Or Miranda? Yashica? Petri?) Contax and Olympus
both flubbed their AF implimentations, but Olympus redeemed itself
with a confident early digital program.

Topcon, Miranda and Petri were gone long before AF came about. They left
about the same time auto exposure came along.
You may as well toss Mamiya in there as well, with their lamentable 35mm SLR
attempts.
Yashica and Contax were one and the same at the time of AF, both were owned
by Kyocera.

My prediction is that within five years the only DSLRs will be a few
premium and professional models, perhaps one from each surviving major
player.

I also predict that within ten years their won't be DSLRs in the 4/3
to 135 range.

This was longer than I thought it'd be, so thanks for reading.

EVF type cameras are going to happen, whether we want or like them or not.
They cost less to produce, which makes them attractive to manufacturers, and
they are the newest thing, which makes them attractive to marketers and
people who buy based on hype rather than function.
My only hope is that they can make a decent EVF (they are still crap) before
the choice of optical viewfinder is taken away from us entirely.

William Robb

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Re: OT: For fans of Burning Man


I thought that was particularly amusing.

On 9/8/2011 10:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://xkcd.com/948/

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Re: interesting trends...


The cheep always drives out the dear.

On 9/7/2011 10:35 PM, Subash wrote:

these are only figures for japan/asia but interesting nonetheless.
canon and nikon lose a combined 35% market share while sony doubles it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/canon-clinging-to-mirrors-means-opportunity-for-sony-cameras.html

so, is the dslr dead yet? perhaps there's hope for the Q :)




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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

That still works for small towns. However it will significantly delay
delivery as hand sorting is required.

On 9/8/2011 8:41 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

On 9 September 2011 07:02, Darren Addy wrote:

What is often called "hand-tinted" was more likely done with stencils
in a semi-automatic process called the Pathécolor process, which was
originally developed for postcards and wallpaper. The example Ann
shows was likely just a one-color wash on the blooms. The process
could be repeated with multiple colors and eventually was used to
create color slides and movies long before the invention of true color
film.

http://bioscopic.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/colourful-stories-no-9-they-do-it-with-stencils/

I like the sound of that explanation. While there's only a single
reference to its "having been adopted from methods used for colouring
postcards and wallpaper", the page was about movie print colouring so
I mustn't grumble. I would have liked more information on the
workflow and the actual colouring medium used for paper rather than
film, but overall the explanation fits the appearance of Ann's
postcard.

Diid anyone notice the addressing of this postcard. It's a sign of
much simpler times when an item addressed as sparsely as

Miss Myrtle Jacobson
Park Ridge
Ill

successfully arrives at its destination.

regards, Anthony

"Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight"
(Anon)

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Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?


On 9/8/2011 3:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On 11-09-08 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as 
my backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving 
admirably.  Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to 
wit, after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally 
drain them, in less than a week, even when turned off.  Now my *ist D 
has always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat 
that.  I have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if 
anyone else had a clue.  Needless to say it's not worth getting it 
repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair 
bill would be.


Are you absolutely certain the lithiums are good?  All the cells?  One 
weak one will make the whole set appear weak after little use.


-bmw

I'm not sure all the lithium were good to start, but my voltage meter is 
sure that after a week they were all doing a pretty good impression of a 
Norwegian Blue...


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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter (really is about lens to body size opinions)

2011-09-09 Thread Tom C

William Robb wrote:

> I'm gonna play the Devil's Advocate for a moment.
> You are certainly stating the obvious regarding size, but what is
> perhaps getting lost is the usability of said package. I'd happily be
> proven wrong, but tossing a NEX sized camera onto the back of a sizable
> lens, say an 80-200/2.8, might make for a really badly balanced package
> that is a PITA to use simply because the small body shape doesn't give
> enough to hold onto. I read a post on PentaxForum from some guy who had
> seen a bunch of people having exactly that problem at some sort of
> sports event.
> The weight difference between a NEX and a small SLR (I used the Pentax
> Kr as a reference) is less than 12 ounces.
>

OK. I'll play!

I often state the obvious because, the obvious often goes overlooked.
If that were not true, the state of affairs on Planet Earth would be
in far better shape at the moment.

The weight of a Pentax 80-200/2.8 is 3.32 lbs.

The weight of a Pentax 80-200/4 is 1.35 lbs.

The weight of a Sony 18-200/3.5 is 1.15 lbs.

Given that the difference in the body weights quoted between the
example DSLR and a NEX is only 12 ounces (.75 lbs.), I think the Sony
wins *in that strict measure*.

Sony (I believe) started the E-series lens line for video cameras.
They're now basically offering the same line for both the NEX's and a
video camera line. That makes sense fiscally, as one doesn't need to
develop an entire new manufacturing line and supply chain for the NEX
lenses vs. the video camera lenses.

I'm willing to forgive a little 'proportional disparity' (the E-series
18 - 200 for example) for the sake of 'total system portability' (my
new acronym TSP).

I detect, as I write, that your issue may largely be with using *DSLR
Ienses* on the NEX. I pretty much agree. I don't see the real
advantage of mounting DSLR lenses on a small body camera, other than
the fact that presumably one already owns the lens. The loss of AF and
other possible functions would pretty much rule it out for me.

It would be cool if Sony could develop an external lens that had the
18-200 (or thereabouts) range that was only .5 - 3 inch long,
essentially a very compact lens that was like the P&S camera lenses,
yet external. Not knowing enough about technical lens design and
optics though, I'm willing to bet that with the Sony E-series lenses,
they're getting a good compromise between quality, and cost vs, the
creation of a separate lens line.

Tom C.

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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Well seen & captured but I'd eliminate about half of the blank sky above the
> building.

While I might agree with an earlier comment about the over-cooked
contrast, I disagree with this one.
White space is your friend.


Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-09 Thread Don Guthrie

Thanks for the tip Ken. I looked at the photo again & cropping the top 
seemed to change the perspective slightly but made for a tighter 
composition I suppose. Taken under advisement before I make a print.



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Well seen & captured but I'd eliminate about half of the blank sky above the
building.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller


Jack, Thanks for looking and your kind comments


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Exceedingly well done, Don.? DOF and lighting, superb!

Jack


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Darren I'm glad to be back at the computer and I am gathering strength 
for the Fall shooting season. Thanks for looking.



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Glad to have you back, Don.
I like it a lot.




Bruce I am recovered but still working on my stamina.

I too noticed the halo when I looked at the Posterous version but it was 
less obvious in Aperture where I processed it. Something to watch for in 
the future. Thanks for the constructive comments.






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On 11-09-08 11:39 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I
have been catching up w/o participating.

Sorry to hear that. I hope you're well recovered.



Herewith is my 1st offering for C&C.

http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one

Nice. I like the PoV and composition, Don.  I think, though, that the
local contrast boosting is a little too obvious (visible as a dark halo
around the building edges, against the sky).

-bmw




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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-09 Thread John Sessoms


From: Sam L

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Dario Bonazza  wrote:

Just to see how it looks:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

Dario

Obviously pentax has to make an adapter from K to Q mount.

Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
then your camera is no longer small.

Sorry for stating the obvious!


I just thought it looked like the old adapter for mounting Pentax 67 
lenses on K mount bodies.


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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-09 Thread John Sessoms


From: Anthony Farr

On 9 September 2011 02:09, John Sessoms  wrote:

Hand painted with tinting oils.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hand+tinted+photographs&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XOVoTtrPL5DPgAe99YjdDA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1415&bih=864

OR

http://preview.tinyurl.com/445vyhd

Probably Marshall's Retouching Oils.

http://www.reuels.com/reuels/Marshalls_Photo_Retouch_Photo_Tinting_Sets.html




Were Marshall's already in business in 1912, the postmark date on
Ann's postcard?  I can't find any history of them at all.

Also, you should look at the postcard at 200% or more and you'll see
that the colouring is very sloppily applied and has bled or blotted
into the print.  Remember that this isn't fine art, it's a cheap
postcard (or it was when it was new, anyway).  The blotting and the
cheapness makes me think oils are an unlikely colouring medium because
it is "necessary to size the print first to prevent absorption of the
colours into the paper", if Wikipedia is to be trusted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-colouring_of_photographs

On the other hand, I've never retouched with oils, only dyes and
waxes.  The waxes I used could leave a glossy finish because after
retouching you would apply a little heat (hot breath was usually
enough) to release the pigment into the emulsion, after which the
residual wax could be buffed away.   But the postcard looks like it
was coloured with a wet medium (because of the bleeding), ruling out
wax I think.

I'm interested to learn if a high glaze can be maintained after
colouring with oils, because Ann remarked that the postcard was "very
glossy".  Do the oils themselves dry glossy?  Can they be buffed?

It could have been varnished, but I think unmounted paper, even if
double weight, varnished in 1912 would be showing cracks by now.

Dye or ink wash is still my guess, because they would penetrate well
into the emulsion and allow the print to be glazed after retouching.
I'm not certain that would be possible with oil or watercolour
retouching because they are surface treatments.

I'm not married to these ideas, so I'm willing to be proven mistaken.

regards, Anthony


I don't know the complete history of the company, but they've been 
around quite a while. I believe they must have had competitors back in 
the hey-day of hand tinting.


My instructor characterized them as the "only one left" in the business 
today.


The colors came in several styles. There was the oil paint in a tube, 
some waxy paints (dyes?) in little pots, and I've seen Marshall's colors 
as pencils at one of the local camera stores. We only did the paints in 
the tubes & the paints in the pots.


We didn't spend a whole lot of time on it, barely an introduction to the 
possibilities.


Our instructor specified "glossy" prints for the lesson. I expect how 
glossy the result is depends on how glossy the print that was started 
with. My first print came a lab that had run out of glossy paper, so I 
had it printed on Luster paper. My color results weren't as bright as 
some of the other students, but that could be because I didn't use 
enough color.


I expect there were varying levels of quality in the application. 
Something like this that was mass produced, the "painter" probably had a 
production quota and wasn't allowed to spend more than a minute on the 
card.




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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up




On 9/9/2011 10:06, Bong Manayon wrote:

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

really fun gallery!

- but um Bong, can you really jump that high?


Not really, noticed I bent my knees?  That's how you exaggerate the
height of the jump;

even so!...  I figured you didnt cheat and do it in photo shop

 but was a tiring exercise doing it over and over

again with that Bronica before I came up with a decent version :-p

Thanks!

'welks

ann - can't grand jete anymore

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Stan Halpin

Now that you have the technique worked out, I suppose we will see a whole 
series like this (similar to the Japanese girl talked about here a month or two 
ago)?

stan

On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> really fun gallery!
>> 
>> - but um Bong, can you really jump that high?
> 
> Not really, noticed I bent my knees?  That's how you exaggerate the
> height of the jump; but was a tiring exercise doing it over and over
> again with that Bronica before I came up with a decent version :-p
> 
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Bong Manayon

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> really fun gallery!
>
> - but um Bong, can you really jump that high?

Not really, noticed I bent my knees?  That's how you exaggerate the
height of the jump; but was a tiring exercise doing it over and over
again with that Bronica before I came up with a decent version :-p

Thanks!
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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

When were you "in country" Joseph?

Dan
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
>
> Thanks for thanking me for writing! If you have the time and are interested, 
> I've included some statistics the 723rd racked up while in-country, as we 
> Vietnam Vets say.
>
> On Sep 8, 2011, at 19:30 , Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Joseph McAllister  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for reading.
>>
>> Wow! Thanks for writing!
>
> Some statistics, if you are interested. May not line up for you, I'm using 14 
> pt Arial.
>
>         TRAIN MOVEMENTS - FRANCE, 11 SEPT 1944 TO 12 MARCH 1945
>
>          Eastbound                                       |                    
> Westbound
>
> No. Trains Total    Loads    Net tons          |            No. Trains Total  
>   Loads    Net tons
>
>      3,851          144,978   1,797,402        |               4,321          
>    34,014    414,249
>
>
>
>        TRAIN MOVEMENTS - GERMANY, 20 MARCH 1945 TO 15 JULY 1945
>
>          Eastbound                                       |                    
> Westbound
>
> No. Trains Total    Loads    Net tons          |           No. Trains Total   
>  Loads    Net tons
>
>      3,039            88,881   1,244,334       |               3,229          
>    83,428      1,167,992
>
>
>                                   TOTAL OPERATIONS IN EUROPEAN THEATRE
>
>                                      No. Trains Total    Loads    Net tons
>
>                                         14,440          351,301    4,623,977
>
>                                          CAR, SHOP and ROUNDHOUSE
>
> CAPTURED ENEMY FREIGHT &                No. CARS                No. Engines 
> Serviced
> PASSENGER CARS STENCILED           REPAIRED           and Repaired in
>                                                                              
> France        Germany
>
>             5,862                                   1,552            15,540   
>       5,355
>
>
>
> Joseph McAllister
> Lots of gear, not much time
>
> http://gallery.me.com/jomac
>
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

It's a wonderful gallery!

Thanks for all your efforts on our behalf, Brian.

Dan
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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> disturbing
>
> There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>
> You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> there)
>
> +
>
> Next up - "Roads".
>
> Submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Submission Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
>
> The main requirements are:
>
> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> * Max file size: 300k
> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> lens used is Pentax.
>
> Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
> space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
> line.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up


really fun gallery!

On 9/9/2011 09:28, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
disturbing


Hehe - I think I'll skip which ones I think those are but we may well 
agree..


Not a lemon in the bunch
- but um Bong, can you really jump that high?

Ok I do have faves - Frank, Bong, Boris

Bulent - gonna use that one for match.com?  whadda good looking guy

ann



There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.




You'll find the gallery here (as usual):

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there)

+

Next up - "Roads".

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.

Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
line.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Dario Bonazza

I especially like Bong's heavy metal and Knarf's guy.
Thanks to all.
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

G'day all

The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
disturbing

There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.

You'll find the gallery here (as usual):

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there)

+

Next up - "Roads".

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.

Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
line.

Cheers

Brian

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Dario Bonazza


They won't open in IE 8, while they work with Firefox 3.6.
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up



Dario

That's odd.  They open OK for me.

What browser are you using?


Cheers

Brian

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On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:

Hello Brian,
Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from
thumbnails.
Cheers,
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up


> G'day all
>
> The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> disturbing
>
> There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
>
> You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> there)
>
> +
>
> Next up - "Roads".
>
> Submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Submission Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
>
> The main requirements are:
>
> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> * Max file size: 300k
> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body 
> or

> lens used is Pentax.
>
> Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a 
> colour
> space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right 
> on

> line.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> -- 
>

>

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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from 
> thumbnails.



A follow up.

I just tested the gallery on several browsers (FF5, IE9, Chrome, Safari
- all on Windows) and it worked in all of them.

If you or others are still having problems I'll take another look in the
morning (it's almost midnight here and I can't stay awake any
longer)


Cheers

Brian

++
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> Cheers,
> Dario
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
> Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
> 
> 
> > G'day all
> >
> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> > disturbing
> >
> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
> >
> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >
> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> > there)
> >
> > +
> >
> > Next up - "Roads".
> >
> > Submit here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> > Submission Guidelines here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >
> >
> > The main requirements are:
> >
> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> > * Max file size: 300k
> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> > lens used is Pentax.
> >
> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
> > line.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> > -- 
> >
> >
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

Dario

That's odd.  They open OK for me.

What browser are you using?


Cheers

Brian

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On Friday, September 09, 2011 3:34 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from 
> thumbnails.
> Cheers,
> Dario
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
> Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
> 
> 
> > G'day all
> >
> > The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
> > from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
> > disturbing
> >
> > There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.
> >
> > You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >
> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> > there)
> >
> > +
> >
> > Next up - "Roads".
> >
> > Submit here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> > Submission Guidelines here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >
> >
> > The main requirements are:
> >
> > * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> > * Max file size: 300k
> > * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> > lens used is Pentax.
> >
> > Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
> > space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
> > line.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> > -- 
> >
> >
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Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up

2011-09-09 Thread Dario Bonazza


Hello Brian,
Thanks for it! Sorry to say, but... apparently pics don't open from 
thumbnails.

Cheers,
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 PM
Subject: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up



G'day all

The September PUG is now up and a top gallery it is too - everything
from the conventional to the obscure and one or two mildly
disturbing

There are several excellent contributions to the Open Gallery as well.

You'll find the gallery here (as usual):

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there)

+

Next up - "Roads".

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.

Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
line.


Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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