Re: PAW124 - Candyfloss?

2012-05-25 Thread DagT
Thanks!  :-)

Den 21. mai 2012 kl. 01:18 skrev David J Brooks:

 Nice but not the Dagi know.:)_
 
 Dve
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:31 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K-5, DA70mm, 1/320s, f/16, ISO100.
 
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Re: Hanging by a thread

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Jordan
You have a point. It does look as if we have moved mountains to get us primed 
for success, despite the likes of the Daily Mail proclaiming doom at every 
opportunity.

Peter


On 24 May 2012, at 19:32, Bob W wrote:

 That's been one of the few good programmes on TV recently - I love it. 
 
 Notwithstanding what your LOCOG friends say though, the thing that has
 impressed me (and not necessarily in a good way) has been the sheer
 unstoppable inexorability of the whole operation. 
 
 The programme panders to our self-image as hopeless bumblers who somehow
 muddle through in the end, but the facts suggest that we are rather more
 Germanic than that cosy image would have us believe and it has all unrolled
 like some colossal mega-juggernaut, crushing all Hugh Grantishness beneath
 its mighty wheels as it 'delivers' a successful Olympics.
 
 The only thing that can stop it now is the mightiest force in all of nature
 - the London traffic.
 
 B
 
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Peter Jordan
 
 I'm sorry bit I can't take anything about legacy serious since
 watching the excellent BBC comedy Twenty Twelve which has more than a
 good dose of reality in it.
 
 I know some people who work for LOCOG (the real life equivalent of the
 Olympic Deliverance organisation in the series) and they say that ut us
 so true to life that it's painful to watch. To me it is simply
 hilarious.
 
 If there is an opportunity to see, I'd thoroughly recommend.
 
 Peter
 
 
 On 13 May 2012, at 08:00, Bob W wrote:
 
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
 Of John Sessoms
 
 From: Bob W
 Testing is under way on a cable car that has been built across the
 Thames from Greenwich to some God-forsaken hole that no-one would
 ever
 go to except that it's near the Olympic stadium. Here are some
 snaps
 (photo snaps, not cable snaps...):
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Thread/
 
 Bob
 
 So, what are they going to do with it after the Olympics?
 
 
 No doubt it will form an important part of the legacy plans which are
 already in place. For instance, the 3-day Eventing and Equestrian
 Cross Country taking place in Greenwich will surely be the nucleus
 for
 growth in horse-riding among all the inner-city kids whose council
 houses have stable yards attached; similarly (and perhaps more
 probably), the shooting events taking place at Woolwich Barracks will
 inspire future generations to move on from knives, chains and molotov
 cocktails, to more accurate weapons better suited to ride-by
 shootings.
 
 The cable-car will form an important stop on the tourism itinerary
 for
 people who want a good overview of the Olympic Tumbleweed Farm.
 
 B
 
 
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RE: Being a Tourist in Italy

2012-05-25 Thread John Coyle
Hi Doug - I spent a month in Italy last year, starting in Milan and then went 
to Verona,
Venice, Ravenna (Hi Dario!), Bologna, Lucca, Florence and Rome.  We travelled 
by car
between Venice and Rome, and the only aspect I would advise you about is ensure 
you have a
GPS navigator in the car you hire.  Signage in the cities is clear, but 
generally very
close to the turn you need to make, so it's easy to miss.  Bipin has covered 
just about
everything else.
We had a diesel Audi A4 wagon, as there were four of us, and it was very 
economical.  Fuel
is not cheap, but if you stay on the major roads the economy can be good.  I 
found driving
in Italy not terribly stressful (I have driven a couple of times in France as 
well, so the
LHD scenario was not new), apart from ensuring you are aware of everything and 
everyone
around you - shouldn't be a problem for a NutDriver!
Italy is a great country, we found the people friendly and helpful.  The 
scenery in the
northern part (Venice to Lucca) is spectacular, helped by we had exceptionally 
good
weather most of the trip.  
Photography-wise, agree with Bipin a very wide angle lens is essential;  for 
over 80% of
my photographs I used my 16-45.  Cranking up the ISO will enable you to capture 
good
interiors, as flash cannot be used in many places - but you can in the Vatican,
surprisingly enough.  Tip - hang around the Vatican tourist office (left-hand 
side of the
square as you look at St. Peter's) at 2:30 every day for an English-language 
guided tour,
conducted by one of the priests posted there - our guide was a Canadian.  Great 
value for
money - it's free!
In Venice, go for the Doge's Palace secret tour,: you have to book online, but 
again it's
cheap and you get to go to parts of the palace not open to tourists on their 
own.
HTH - don't hesitate to ask if I can help with any particular query.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin 
Gupta
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 3:39 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Being a Tourist in Italy

Hi Dough, we were in Italy for a week - usual tourist route - Naples, Rome, 
Pisa,
Florence, Genoa, Turin,  Venice and back to Rome via San Marino. We rented a 
motor scooter
between Pisa and Florence for the fun of it.
Here are some things to remember:-
Italy is pretty small. For that matter entire Europe too compared to the US. So 
doing 250
Km per day is no big deal. You can do it in easily in (3 to 4) hours with a tea 
and
restroom break. So your driving limit between 1100 to 1300 hrs may not suffice.
Note: most tea/coffee stop places serve luke warm tea or coffee. So smile and 
say you want
it piping hot.
Italy has stricter drink driving laws, allowing 0.5 milligrams of alcohol per 
millilitre
of blood.
Seat belts front and rear are obligatory everywhere, unless you are using a 
motor scooter
where a helmet and a visible jacket is a must.
Be careful of merry young Italian drivers. Here is why: tiny cars in very 
narrow roads can
literally mean an inch away; they keep cutting you off; they will almost run 
over you;
they ignore stop signs and traffic lights, etc. Be on the lookout brother and  
drive safe.
To some RHD folks (Britain, Japan, India), LHD can be very confusing.
When approaching a roundabout give way to traffic already on the roundabout, on 
your left.
Speeding and other traffic offences are subject to extremely heavy on-the-spot 
fines.
Speed limits: on motorway 130 Km - Radar traps are frequent. Dual Carriageway 
110 Km.
Towns 50 Km. In the rains these limits drop.
Two warning triangle should be carried at all times.
The winding and slow country roads will drive you crazy eventually. Take breaks.
Don’t get confused between KMPH and MPH. I paid heavy fines.
Lock your car and don’t keep valuables, passports or cash in the car.
Thieves are everywhere in Italy. Beware brother.
As for travel and street photography Italy is wonderfully enchanting.
Please carry a 10-20 mm lens, or you will miss the monuments and churches in 
its splendid
beauty. Tripods not allowed inside most monuments, museums and churches. Very 
narrow
streets and spaces around most tourist hot spots.
Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land.

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RE: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun

2012-05-25 Thread John Coyle
Great shot - well seen and captured Boris.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun

Hello.

Please have a look and give me your honest and brutal say.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-21-rising-with-sun.html

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun

2012-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like this a lot. It does feel to be a bit lacking in mid range contrast. You 
might try altering the curve a bit through the middle and see if that gives it 
a bit more tonal separation.
Paul
On May 25, 2012, at 3:56 AM, John Coyle wrote:

 Great shot - well seen and captured Boris.
 
 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun
 
 Hello.
 
 Please have a look and give me your honest and brutal say.
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-21-rising-with-sun.html
 
 Thanks.
 
 Boris
 
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hi Jeffrey,

I like the spare layout.

- Need a way to get back to the home page.
- I'd like to be able to see a thumbnail array of a gallery set.

Godfrey

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
 ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.

 Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
 not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
 up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
 taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.

 The site is www.400tx.com.

 Thanks much, in advance.

 Jeffery

 Sent from my iPad

 Jeffery L. Smith
 New Orleans, Louisiana
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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

2012-05-25 Thread George Sinos
Thanks for the comments everyone.  This is going to be an interesting
project.  I'm looking forward to the next few weeks. gs
George Sinos

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great image.
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
 that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
 photo every day, for 30days.

 Today is my seventh day into the project and I must admit that I'm
 getting more comfortable with printing. My skills may or may not be
 improving but I've learned a lot about printing through Lightroom 4.
 Previously I did the majority of printing through Photoshop.

 Now that I have a 7 day cushion I decided to post screen versions of
 the photos I've selected for prints.

 St. Bridget's is the beautiful old church I attended during my grade
 school and high school years. I'll be returning over the next few
 weeks to get additional photos. This is one of the initial test shots.

 http://georges.posterous.com/st-bridgets-church-print-a-day-1

 There are a number of churches in the area that are expected to be
 closed over the next year.  Population shift and finances are the
 primary reasons.  Luckily, this beautiful old church isn't one of
 them.  My intention is to get all of them photographed before it's too
 late.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

2012-05-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of
Hollywood stars.

https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch

I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her
eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some
dodge'n'burn. :-)

Thanks, Bob!


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bruce,
 I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo.
 For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light!
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
  suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
 
  http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
 
  This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I
  couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
 
  The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
  Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
  decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
  some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
  two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
  show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
  job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
  simultaneously.
 
  I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical
  of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
  created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
  George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
  look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
  we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
  his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
  able to emulate accurately! :-)
 
  K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
  AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
  and in front of subject's face.
  AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
  AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
  Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
  Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
 
  Comments welcome!
 
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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

2012-05-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Hey, Frank! This was actually a midday shoot -- noon through 4 PM --
so I think you'd have been hard at work. But I will drop you a line.
Derek thought the whole project was great, especially since his place
filled up with so many great looking ladies. :-)


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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 Oh yeah, lemme know next time. Love to pop by (although I bad a union meeting 
 last night so it would not have worked).

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

 Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
 suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/

 This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I
 couldn't resist keeping this one colour.

 The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
 Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
 decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
 some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
 two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
 show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
 job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
 simultaneously.

 I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical
 of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
 created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
 George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
 look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
 we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
 his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
 able to emulate accurately! :-)

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
 AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
 and in front of subject's face.
 AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
 AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
 Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
 Lr and Ps for post and retouching.

 Comments welcome!

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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

2012-05-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Frank!

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very sultry and sexy!

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

 Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
 suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/

 This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I
 couldn't resist keeping this one colour.

 The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
 Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
 decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
 some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
 two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
 show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
 job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
 simultaneously.

 I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical
 of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
 created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
 George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
 look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
 we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
 his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
 able to emulate accurately! :-)

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
 AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
 and in front of subject's face.
 AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
 AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
 Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
 Lr and Ps for post and retouching.

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Re: Being a Tourist in Italy

2012-05-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
We have been to Italy four times, for a week each.  Don't try to hit
too many cities;  the joy of Italy is relaxing in a piazza sipping
espresso or limoncello and just enjoying life.

Rome is by far the most interesting, with many great museums, the
Colosseum and the Forum, the street life and the Sistine Chapel.
Venice is a crowded tourist disaster in the daytime, but in the
evening, after the large groups leave, St Marks square is truly
magical.  Florence has great food, David, the Ufizzi and the marvelous
view from across the river, best seen from the Piazzella Michelangelo.

The most enjoyable part of Italy, however, is the Naples area, which
has the kind of Italian food that most of us love, great scenery, and
the most Italian lifestyle.  Sorrento, Amalfi, Positano, Ravello.
Capri all are great places to just enjoy the food, the wine (or
Limoncello), the views and the people.

I have never been bored in Italiy, not for a moment, not even in Milano.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 3:55 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hi Doug - I spent a month in Italy last year, starting in Milan and then went 
 to Verona,
 Venice, Ravenna (Hi Dario!), Bologna, Lucca, Florence and Rome.  We travelled 
 by car
 between Venice and Rome, and the only aspect I would advise you about is 
 ensure you have a
 GPS navigator in the car you hire.  Signage in the cities is clear, but 
 generally very
 close to the turn you need to make, so it's easy to miss.  Bipin has covered 
 just about
 everything else.
 We had a diesel Audi A4 wagon, as there were four of us, and it was very 
 economical.  Fuel
 is not cheap, but if you stay on the major roads the economy can be good.  I 
 found driving
 in Italy not terribly stressful (I have driven a couple of times in France as 
 well, so the
 LHD scenario was not new), apart from ensuring you are aware of everything 
 and everyone
 around you - shouldn't be a problem for a NutDriver!
 Italy is a great country, we found the people friendly and helpful.  The 
 scenery in the
 northern part (Venice to Lucca) is spectacular, helped by we had 
 exceptionally good
 weather most of the trip.
 Photography-wise, agree with Bipin a very wide angle lens is essential;  for 
 over 80% of
 my photographs I used my 16-45.  Cranking up the ISO will enable you to 
 capture good
 interiors, as flash cannot be used in many places - but you can in the 
 Vatican,
 surprisingly enough.  Tip - hang around the Vatican tourist office (left-hand 
 side of the
 square as you look at St. Peter's) at 2:30 every day for an English-language 
 guided tour,
 conducted by one of the priests posted there - our guide was a Canadian.  
 Great value for
 money - it's free!
 In Venice, go for the Doge's Palace secret tour,: you have to book online, 
 but again it's
 cheap and you get to go to parts of the palace not open to tourists on their 
 own.
 HTH - don't hesitate to ask if I can help with any particular query.


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin 
 Gupta
 Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 3:39 AM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Being a Tourist in Italy

 Hi Dough, we were in Italy for a week - usual tourist route - Naples, Rome, 
 Pisa,
 Florence, Genoa, Turin,  Venice and back to Rome via San Marino. We rented a 
 motor scooter
 between Pisa and Florence for the fun of it.
 Here are some things to remember:-
 Italy is pretty small. For that matter entire Europe too compared to the US. 
 So doing 250
 Km per day is no big deal. You can do it in easily in (3 to 4) hours with a 
 tea and
 restroom break. So your driving limit between 1100 to 1300 hrs may not 
 suffice.
 Note: most tea/coffee stop places serve luke warm tea or coffee. So smile and 
 say you want
 it piping hot.
 Italy has stricter drink driving laws, allowing 0.5 milligrams of alcohol per 
 millilitre
 of blood.
 Seat belts front and rear are obligatory everywhere, unless you are using a 
 motor scooter
 where a helmet and a visible jacket is a must.
 Be careful of merry young Italian drivers. Here is why: tiny cars in very 
 narrow roads can
 literally mean an inch away; they keep cutting you off; they will almost run 
 over you;
 they ignore stop signs and traffic lights, etc. Be on the lookout brother and 
  drive safe.
 To some RHD folks (Britain, Japan, India), LHD can be very confusing.
 When approaching a roundabout give way to traffic already on the roundabout, 
 on your left.
 Speeding and other traffic offences are subject to extremely heavy 
 on-the-spot fines.
 Speed limits: on motorway 130 Km - Radar traps are frequent. Dual Carriageway 
 110 Km.
 Towns 50 Km. In the rains these limits drop.
 Two warning triangle should be carried at all times.
 The winding and slow country roads will drive you crazy eventually. Take 
 breaks.
 Don’t get confused between KMPH and MPH. I paid heavy 

Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Kenton Brede
Jeffry,
I like the minimalism.  The site looked fine on my ipad v3 as well
as Safari and Firefox.  I'm with Godfrey, galleries need thumbnails
and a link back to home.  BTW, the pics are great. :)

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
 ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.

 Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
 not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
 up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
 taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.

 The site is www.400tx.com.

 Thanks much, in advance.

 Jeffery

 Sent from my iPad

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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

2012-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out 
her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. 
Paul
On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of
 Hollywood stars.
 
 https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch
 
 I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her
 eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some
 dodge'n'burn. :-)
 
 Thanks, Bob!
 
 
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Bruce,
 I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo.
 For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light!
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
 suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
 
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
 
 This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I
 couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
 
 The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
 Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
 decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
 some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
 two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
 show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
 job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
 simultaneously.
 
 I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical
 of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
 created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
 George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
 look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
 we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
 his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
 able to emulate accurately! :-)
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
 AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
 and in front of subject's face.
 AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
 AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
 Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
 Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
 
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Jeffery Smith
Thanks for the suggestions. I just placed a link back to home on the
pages (^). I'm still working on the best way to do thumbnails. In
previous web editors, I made a table and placed thumbnails in the
boxes on the table. Freeway doesn't do tables, but does allow
duplication of boxes as well as evenly spreading the boxes
horizontally and vertically.

Thanks again!

Jeffery

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Kenton Brede kbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jeffry,
 I like the minimalism.  The site looked fine on my ipad v3 as well
 as Safari and Firefox.  I'm with Godfrey, galleries need thumbnails
 and a link back to home.  BTW, the pics are great. :)

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 After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from 
 the ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.

 Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? 
 I'm not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I 
 have up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after 
 Katrina. All taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.

 The site is www.400tx.com.

 Thanks much, in advance.

 Jeffery

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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Darren Addy
While we are on the OT subject, I'll mention that the official lingo
for a site that renders well on everything from a big screen to a
smartphone is called Responsive.
Use that term to Google whatever you want to learn about regarding
your site redesign.

For example:
If you are running a Wordpress-based site, you would probably google
Wordpress Responsive template.
http://www.splashnology.com/article/20-free-responsive-wordpress-themes/3973/

If you wanted to learn about Responsive web design you would google
that and find this:
http://www.abookapart.com/products/responsive-web-design
http://www.netmagazine.com/features/50-fantastic-tools-responsive-web-design
http://thinkvitamin.com/design/beginners-guide-to-responsive-web-design/

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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

2012-05-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Great job on the light. But your model seems to be tense.
 Paul

Thats because she has heard of the PDML.:-)

Great job Bruce

Dave

 On May 24, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
 suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/

 This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I
 couldn't resist keeping this one colour.

 The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
 Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
 decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
 some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
 two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
 show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
 job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
 simultaneously.

 I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical
 of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
 created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
 George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
 look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
 we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
 his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
 able to emulate accurately! :-)

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
 AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
 and in front of subject's face.
 AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
 AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
 Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
 Lr and Ps for post and retouching.

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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

2012-05-25 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely

Dave

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 A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
 that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
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Re: PESO - Evening Columbine

2012-05-25 Thread David J Brooks
Quite nice, i like your choice of DOF here.

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On my way home from work, rather than to work:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

 or

 http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682k=Rq5tTR8lb=1s=A


 Comments appreciated!


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Re: PESO - Free Parking

2012-05-25 Thread David J Brooks
Bike knots :-)

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 When bike messengers congregate:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/free-parking.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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K-30 preorder on Amazon but no WS kit lens?

2012-05-25 Thread Darren Addy
I noticed the other day that the K-30 has shown up on Amazon (for pre-order).
$849 for the body and $899 with the kit lens.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it is odd that a
weather-sealed camera is being sold without a weather-sealed kit lens.
(Obviously keeps the price tag lower, but this is a disconnect for the
marketing dept. It should ALSO be offered with the WS lens so that
people will look into the reasons for the price difference (and have a
choice). If you make people look into weather sealing when it is an
advantage for your brand, then you enhance your brand (in the minds of
those people who deem it important).

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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 24, 2012, at 20:53, Jeffery Smith wrote:

 After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
 ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad. 
 
 Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
 not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
 up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
 taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
 
 The site is www.400tx.com. 
 

At the risk of sounding enthusiastic about such a grim subject... those are 
great.

Looks good on the laptop and the iPad(2).

Some of the house on top of car shots are really something.

I noticed a couple of repeats in the gallery, but overall I have to say that's 
a solid sequence of images.  Very well done!

Also: I do like the spare interface.

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Re: K-30 preorder on Amazon but no WS kit lens?

2012-05-25 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-25 8:57 Darren Addy wrote


I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it is odd that a
weather-sealed camera is being sold without a weather-sealed kit lens.


that's how the K200d was sold ... i bought mine with the kit lens and the 
weather sealing was still an attraction


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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-24 19:53 Jeffery Smith wrote

The site is www.400tx.com.


hi Jeffery, nice domain name ;?

here's feedback from a sometime web developer:

i looked with an iPad 2 and it is well laid out, and easy to figure out; strong 
gallery too; i appreciate the minimal approach; i looked before the changes you 
mentioned this morning


i noticed a few design issues — not biggies, and some possibly intentional:

- i would find it more comfortable if the photos in the gallery had a little 
more breathing room from top of page; for iPad consider centering it on the screen


- the text on the front page (very little, i know) feels uncomfortable because 
the style is not as minimal as the rest, it feels more decorative


- spacing of the navigation arrows is a little uneven; it is also hard to hit 
such small arrows; i would suggest making each gallery photo itself a link to 
the next in the gallery to make an easier target (this is common paradigm)


- i looked at all the images; very strong, but there are some dupes

- there is no home link from the gallery pages; and with such a large gallery 
an index or a running row of sequence thumbnails would probably help (though it 
would be less minimal, and may be hard to do without a more sophisticated 
production tool



and a couple of glitches:

if i view it in portrait on iPad, it fits well, then i rotate to landscape it 
enlarges well — good responsive design — however when i then rotate back to 
portrait it gets stuck in too big mode, and back to landscape it is even more 
too big; a double-tap and it resizes as needed; i'm not that experienced in 
the mechanics of this so i'm not sure if this is as simple as some CSS or if it 
would require Javascript to respond to these changes consistently


also the link from copyright notice is mangled — a couple of spaces got glommed 
onto the end as entities (kudos for choosing a creative commons license)


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PESO 2012 - 054 - GDG

2012-05-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The year flies by, and crawls at the same time. Memorial Day coming up already. 
Wow.

A blog post again at last.

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/memorial

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Jeffery Smith
Thanks for the help and suggestions. I'll check for those dupes. And I'll try 
to lower the photos a bit. Not sure how to do the iPad rotation thing, but I 
have the manuals on PDF, so it should be easy to find if there is a solution 
there.

I really didn't put much thought into the index page. I just needed one, so I 
put something there. I know it doesn't fit well on an iPad.

Thanks much for the suggestions. I really do need the design feedback from a 
variety of viewers who have some web design experience.

Jeffery


On May 25, 2012, at 10:23 AM, steve harley wrote:

 on 2012-05-24 19:53 Jeffery Smith wrote
 The site is www.400tx.com.
 
 hi Jeffery, nice domain name ;?
 
 here's feedback from a sometime web developer:
 
 i looked with an iPad 2 and it is well laid out, and easy to figure out; 
 strong gallery too; i appreciate the minimal approach; i looked before the 
 changes you mentioned this morning
 
 i noticed a few design issues — not biggies, and some possibly intentional:
 
 - i would find it more comfortable if the photos in the gallery had a little 
 more breathing room from top of page; for iPad consider centering it on the 
 screen
 
 - the text on the front page (very little, i know) feels uncomfortable 
 because the style is not as minimal as the rest, it feels more decorative
 
 - spacing of the navigation arrows is a little uneven; it is also hard to hit 
 such small arrows; i would suggest making each gallery photo itself a link to 
 the next in the gallery to make an easier target (this is common paradigm)
 
 - i looked at all the images; very strong, but there are some dupes
 
 - there is no home link from the gallery pages; and with such a large gallery 
 an index or a running row of sequence thumbnails would probably help (though 
 it would be less minimal, and may be hard to do without a more sophisticated 
 production tool
 
 
 and a couple of glitches:
 
 if i view it in portrait on iPad, it fits well, then i rotate to landscape it 
 enlarges well — good responsive design — however when i then rotate back to 
 portrait it gets stuck in too big mode, and back to landscape it is even 
 more too big; a double-tap and it resizes as needed; i'm not that 
 experienced in the mechanics of this so i'm not sure if this is as simple as 
 some CSS or if it would require Javascript to respond to these changes 
 consistently
 
 also the link from copyright notice is mangled — a couple of spaces got 
 glommed onto the end as entities (kudos for choosing a creative commons 
 license)
 
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Re: PESO 2012 - 054 - GDG

2012-05-25 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-25 9:32 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote

The year flies by, and crawls at the same time. Memorial Day coming up already. 
Wow.

A blog post again at last.

   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/memorial


quirky image with the drawbridge standing in for a remembered gallows

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Re: OT: iMaj

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann


On May 24, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


It would be nice if a certain photographic equipment company with which we are 
all familiar would attend to the following principle:
Sir Jonathan said Apple products were tools 'and we don't want design to get in the 
way'.


Good philosophy.  The trouble with using good tools is that bad ones start to 
piss you off very quickly.

Dave


Unless the bad tool is a hammer. You can always just hit something with 
it if you have a hammer. Instant catharsis.


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Canon Powershot G1X vs. Pentax K-01

2012-05-25 Thread Jens
I did a micro test. Canon G1X vs. Pentax K-01. Take a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629887950310/

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson


On May 23, 2012, at 21:22, John Sessoms wrote:

If I take the cable going back to the hub/switch/whatever and
connect it directly to the Ethernet port on either computer in the
other room, I get the same results. I can print. I can access the
internet. I can see the shared folders back there from this
computer and I can see the shared folders on this computer from
back there.


Well, at least you've ruled out hardware failure of the hub/switch.

Good luck - sounds like something more obtuse and funky to diagnose!


I do not have a clue what the problem was. I shut everything down and 
crawled under the desk to get to the router.


The router was sitting on the floor under the desk because the cable to 
the network printer was too short for it to sit anywhere else. I swapped 
cables around so I could reposition the router up on top of the desk so 
I won't have to crawl under there to get to it next time things get screwy.


I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, 
PhotoShop computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping 
the NAS, and they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 
computers can see the shared folders on the other two computers and they 
can all reach the internet.


I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think 
about that tomorrow.


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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 25, 2012, at 13:00, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, PhotoShop 
 computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping the NAS, and 
 they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 computers can see 
 the shared folders on the other two computers and they can all reach the 
 internet.
 

Problem solved.  Good!

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
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 SAN is so much better than NAS.

If you have the budget to afford a real SAN for your home network, I
want your source of income. :-P

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Collin Brendemuehl


I tried NAS on a netgear router.
Didn't work.
The drive was shared but also locked from multi-access.
When on system had it mapped the others could not access it.
It was frustrating, so I gave up.
(I think it will allow multi-access for reading, but not for writing.)

SAN is so much better than NAS.


In my case, I think the only advantage of the NAS is I've got it  it's 
(currently?) working (again?).


I don't know if it matters that both the NAS  the router are by D-link. 
I'm thinking about eventually getting another NAS, and I'm looking at 
the Netgear version Next time around.


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PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church - Print a Day 2

2012-05-25 Thread George Sinos
Day 2 of the Print-a-Day-for-30-days experiment is this photo of two
of the altars in St. Bridget's church.  This is another test shot from
the same church in yesterday's photo. Photographing the church will be
a longer term project for this year.

Someone asked about the location of this church yesterday.  It is in
Omaha, Nebraska.

http://georges.posterous.com/st-bridgets-church-print-a-day-2

Given all of the linen and marble in the photo you might think setting
the white balance would be easy. In this photo, the perception of
white is more important than a technically correct white. In a print,
the color of the paper has an effect on the whiteness in the photo.

Lightroom can help with this if you've calibrated your monitor and
have accurate profiles for the ink and paper you've chosen.  But the
process isn't perfect.  A simulation on a monitor will never perfectly
match a print.  So, there isn't any substitute for a test print.

On the screen, even though I'm using a calibrated monitor, I don't
know what anyone else will be using.  My guess is most people will
have the monitor setup just as it came from the factory.  It's
probably set way to bright and the colors will likely skew to the blue
end of the scale.  I just take my best shot at getting it right for a
calibrated monitor and let the chips fall where they may.

GS

George Sinos

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RE: OT: iMaj

2012-05-25 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 John Sessoms
  It would be nice if a certain photographic equipment company with
 which we are all familiar would attend to the following principle:
  Sir Jonathan said Apple products were tools 'and we don't want
 design to get in the way'.
 
  Good philosophy.  The trouble with using good tools is that bad ones
 start to piss you off very quickly.
 
  Dave
 
 Unless the bad tool is a hammer. You can always just hit something with
 it if you have a hammer. Instant catharsis.
 

I'd buy a good hammer and hit the bad hammer with it.

B


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Re: PESO - Evening Columbine

2012-05-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave!

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Evening Columbine

Quite nice, i like your choice of DOF here.

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On my way home from work, rather than to work:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

 or

 http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682k=Rq5tTR8lb=1s=A


 Comments appreciated!


 Rick

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Boris PESO (3 shots GESO) #22 - David Broza concert

2012-05-25 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Here is the link:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-22-david-broza.html

I should say that in this kind of light my K-5 AF with DA* 16-50/2.8 was 
rather inaccurate. But thankfully I had a focusing screen that helped me 
pull out these shots.


Be brutal and honest. Thankfully the artist's web site gave me 
permission to publish these shots...


Boris

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Re: Tokina AT-X 828 AF PRO 80-200mm f/2.8 question

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy


I'm curious... if it shows up in Photoshop as a Pentax-F 35-105mm,
does that mean that it is also misreading the focal length that this
lens is set at (when doing image stabilization)?
If it is doing image stabilization for a 105mm focal length when the
lens is set to 200mm, that could definitely lead to some lack of
sharpness. I think I will see if I get better results with Image
Stabilization off and tripod mount it (which I guess I should be doing
to test for sharpness anyway!).


I don't know.

I think the camera just has to have some kind of a code to bury in the 
EXIF to identify the lens  it uses the code that PhotoShop thinks is 
the Pentax-F 35-105.


I don't know why it wouldn't use the code for the FA* 80-200/2.8 ED 
[IF]? But it apparently doesn't


I just did a quick test on mine with the K20D  when you press the INFO 
button, it shows the correct focal length - 80 = 80, 200 = 200 and in 
between shows proportional focal lengths in between.




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RE: GESO - farewell show

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Derby Chang


My friend Loene is moving to Georgia (USA) for a few months. Anyone know
Griffin?

She had one last show before she leaves.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/index.htm

TIL; shooting at 6400 is a bucket of fun


Griffin is part of the Atlanta metropolitan sprawl; about halfway 
between Atlanta and Macon.


It's Hollywood's idea of what a southern small town looks like. It 
appeared in Driving Miss Daisy, Mississipi Burning and The Fighting 
Temptations.



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RE: Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

2012-05-25 Thread Don Guthrie
Rick quite lovely and well taken. I can't seem to get enuf flower pics 
this Spring. I have my own Columbine photo I will post soon.






Message: 12
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On my way home from work, rather than to work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

or

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682k=Rq5tTR8lb=1s=A


Comments appreciated!


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RE: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Don Guthrie
Looks great on my IPAD Simple clean look and I like the black frame 
around BW pix. Navigation seems straight-forward.


Picture are sad but good. Been through tornado aftermath. It can leave 
you speechless. These photos speak for themselves.





Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 20:53:21 -0500
From: Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Web site feedback - OT
Message-ID: 87849066-dba0-401a-9918-f9129ed0d...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.

Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.

The site is www.400tx.com.

Thanks much, in advance.

Jeffery

Sent from my iPad

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New Orleans, Louisiana
USA



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Re: Boris PESO (3 shots GESO) #22 - David Broza concert

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
I like the set.  The soundboard shot is inspired.
I might make the two lighted doorways (left) in the 3rd shot disappear.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Here is the link:
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-22-david-broza.html

 I should say that in this kind of light my K-5 AF with DA* 16-50/2.8 was
 rather inaccurate. But thankfully I had a focusing screen that helped me
 pull out these shots.

 Be brutal and honest. Thankfully the artist's web site gave me permission to
 publish these shots...

 Boris

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Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread Don Guthrie
I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera  
4 lenses cost less than $200!
Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
adapter off-brand $20.00 and

4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the battery 
and set the camera to Aperture priority.

Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/lightbox/

I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
camera  2nd camera for planned outings.

Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.

But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.

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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread Bulent Celasun
They look gorgeous (resolution- and color-wise) on screen.

Is it a responsive camera? (Important especially in situations like
that in your first image).

Bulent
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2012/5/25 Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com:
 I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera  4
 lenses cost less than $200!
 Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
 adapter off-brand $20.00 and
 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

 Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the battery and
 set the camera to Aperture priority.
 Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/lightbox/

 I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking camera 
 2nd camera for planned outings.
 Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

 It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled effective
 focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
 But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.

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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

2012-05-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Even a crusty old atheist like me can appreciate the beauty in a sacred 
building.

Beautiful church, lovely photo, expertly rendered.

Reminds me of my mis-spent Catholic youth.

;-)

cheers,
frank



What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl
Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

beautiful church and image. print it big!

Toine

On 24 May 2012 18:32, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
 that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
 photo every day, for 30days.

 Today is my seventh day into the project and I must admit that I'm
 getting more comfortable with printing. My skills may or may not be
 improving but I've learned a lot about printing through Lightroom 4.
 Previously I did the majority of printing through Photoshop.

 Now that I have a 7 day cushion I decided to post screen versions of
 the photos I've selected for prints.

 St. Bridget's is the beautiful old church I attended during my grade
 school and high school years. I'll be returning over the next few
 weeks to get additional photos. This is one of the initial test shots.

 http://georges.posterous.com/st-bridgets-church-print-a-day-1

 There are a number of churches in the area that are expected to be
 closed over the next year.  Population shift and finances are the
 primary reasons.  Luckily, this beautiful old church isn't one of
 them.  My intention is to get all of them photographed before it's too
 late.

 gs

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RE: GESO - farewell show

2012-05-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wonderful set! You used the light to great effect.

Very emotional.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO - farewell show


My friend Loene is moving to Georgia (USA) for a few months. Anyone know 
Griffin?

She had one last show before she leaves.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/index.htm

TIL; shooting at 6400 is a bucket of fun

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RE: PESO - Evening Columbine

2012-05-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful light! Very well composed. Wonderful photo.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

On my way home from work, rather than to work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

or

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682k=Rq5tTR8lb=1s=A


Comments appreciated!


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Re: Tokina AT-X 828 AF PRO 80-200mm f/2.8 question

2012-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling
The camera uses the code recorded in the data chip in the lens.  Having 
partially disassembled an FA and an F lens I can say with relative 
assurance that that focal length is reported by several conductive 
strips that are sampled differently as the zoom ring is turned.  I 
expect that the reported focal length is most likely correct.   The 
Acontacts tell the camera the absolute maximum and minimum apertures the 
lens is capable of, (as per Boz K mount description page).  Now I don't 
know how the following is done, but based on behavior I'd say the lens' 
on board chip sends a modification signal to the camera body based on 
the focal length selected so the camera will display and record the 
correct f stop.  This doesn't happen with A zoom lenses since they have 
no chip.


On 5/25/2012 2:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Darren Addy


I'm curious... if it shows up in Photoshop as a Pentax-F 35-105mm,
does that mean that it is also misreading the focal length that this
lens is set at (when doing image stabilization)?
If it is doing image stabilization for a 105mm focal length when the
lens is set to 200mm, that could definitely lead to some lack of
sharpness. I think I will see if I get better results with Image
Stabilization off and tripod mount it (which I guess I should be doing
to test for sharpness anyway!).


I don't know.

I think the camera just has to have some kind of a code to bury in the 
EXIF to identify the lens  it uses the code that PhotoShop thinks is 
the Pentax-F 35-105.


I don't know why it wouldn't use the code for the FA* 80-200/2.8 ED 
[IF]? But it apparently doesn't


I just did a quick test on mine with the K20D  when you press the 
INFO button, it shows the correct focal length - 80 = 80, 200 = 200 
and in between shows proportional focal lengths in between.







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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling
You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good 
glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything 
that qualifies as wide angle,


On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera 
 4 lenses cost less than $200!
Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
adapter off-brand $20.00 and

4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the 
battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.

Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/lightbox/ 



I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
camera  2nd camera for planned outings.

Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.

But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.




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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-25 Thread Eric Weir

On May 22, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Subash wrote:

 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi
 
 do let me know what you like and what you don't

I share others' appreciation of the entire gallery, Subash. The landscapes, the 
portraits. Hard to pick a favorite, but I thought geetha inside the 
restaurant was stunning. But so were many others.

I'm guessing that since you had the services of pack mules you didn't have to 
be as careful as you might have otherwise what equipment you had with you, but 
I would be interested to know what you used to create these images.

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Re: Today's Peace Rally

2012-05-25 Thread Eric Weir

On May 21, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 As to the protesters, I only regret I don't have my old F-4B available
 to pay them a visit.

Very cool. 

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RE: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
J. Alling
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good 
glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything 
that qualifies as wide angle,

On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera 
  4 lenses cost less than $200!
 Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
 adapter off-brand $20.00 and
 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

 Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the 
 battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
 Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
tbox/ 


 I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
 camera  2nd camera for planned outings.
 Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

 It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
 effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
 But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.



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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Loved the tour --
I was glad to see the shots that were a bit more in the distance of the 
mountain - that worked better for me for scale.
The portraits all very strong, but I particularly liked the one of the 
tiny figure at the base of the Glacier's terminal moraine. at least, I
think that is what I'm looking at.. don't see any glacial ice - but I 
guess that was your point, no?


The snake cries out for scale for me... looks like a metamorphic
product - I'm bothered I can just blurt out exactly what is happening 
there - :-)


what an wonderful trip that msut ahve been!

ann

On 5/24/2012 22:09, Subash wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:50 -0400
Stan Halpins...@stans-photography.info  wrote:


A very nice photo essay!


thanks Stan. and everyone else who had a look. appreciate it :)



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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread Jeffery Smith
I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What interests 
me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I think Sigma's 
biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma lenses. If they 
had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's lenses, that would be a 
keeper.

Jeffery


On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.
 
 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
 J. Alling
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side
 
 You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good 
 glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything 
 that qualifies as wide angle,
 
 On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera 
  4 lenses cost less than $200!
 Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
 adapter off-brand $20.00 and
 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.
 
 Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the 
 battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
 Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
 tbox/ 
 
 
 I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
 camera  2nd camera for planned outings.
 Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.
 
 It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
 effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
 But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.
 
 
 
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Re: Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

2012-05-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Don!  I know what you mean.  I tell myself Rick, the world has 
=enough= flower pictures already!  And then I take some more.

Rick

 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

Rick quite lovely and well taken. I can't seem to get enuf flower pics 
this Spring. I have my own Columbine photo I will post soon.




 Message: 12
 Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine
 Message-ID:
     1337906318.14401.yahoomail...@web162103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 On my way home from work, rather than to work:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

 or

 http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682k=Rq5tTR8lb=1s=A


 Comments appreciated!


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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
The E-Pl1 is a good body, and a great value for $169.  If you can grab
the Oly 17 or the Lumix 14 or 20 it becomes a great little
street/close quarters/ camera.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What interests 
 me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I think Sigma's 
 biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma lenses. If 
 they had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's lenses, that 
 would be a keeper.

 Jeffery


 On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.

 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
 J. Alling
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

 You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good
 glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything
 that qualifies as wide angle,

 On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera
  4 lenses cost less than $200!
 Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
 adapter off-brand $20.00 and
 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

 Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the
 battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
 Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
 tbox/


 I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking
 camera  2nd camera for planned outings.
 Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

 It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled
 effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
 But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.



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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

2012-05-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just did some looking, and Amazon has some used Lumix 14 2.8 lenses
for $185.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The E-Pl1 is a good body, and a great value for $169.  If you can grab
 the Oly 17 or the Lumix 14 or 20 it becomes a great little
 street/close quarters/ camera.

 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What 
 interests me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I 
 think Sigma's biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma 
 lenses. If they had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's 
 lenses, that would be a keeper.

 Jeffery


 On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.

 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
 J. Alling
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

 You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good
 glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything
 that qualifies as wide angle,

 On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I have  crossed the line  purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera
  4 lenses cost less than $200!
 Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
 adapter off-brand $20.00 and
 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

 Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the
 battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
 Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
 tbox/


 I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking
 camera  2nd camera for planned outings.
 Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

 It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled
 effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
 But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.



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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-25 Thread Subash
thanks Ann, it was an amazing trek :). you are right, the photo is of
the glacier's 'snout' but i wasn't making the point you thought i was.
all that *is* solid ice, covered with a thin layer of soil so it all
looks brown.

about the snake fossil, i've just added the only other photo i took.
hope that gives it some kind of scale:
https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi#5746649077613675042

thanks for looking. appreciate your comments...


On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:12:12 -0400
Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Loved the tour --
 I was glad to see the shots that were a bit more in the distance of
 the mountain - that worked better for me for scale.
 The portraits all very strong, but I particularly liked the one of
 the tiny figure at the base of the Glacier's terminal moraine. at
 least, I think that is what I'm looking at.. don't see any glacial
 ice - but I guess that was your point, no?
 
 The snake cries out for scale for me... looks like a metamorphic
 product - I'm bothered I can just blurt out exactly what is happening 
 there - :-)
 
 what an wonderful trip that msut ahve been!
 
 ann
 
 On 5/24/2012 22:09, Subash wrote:
  On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:50 -0400
  Stan Halpins...@stans-photography.info  wrote:
 
  A very nice photo essay!
 
  thanks Stan. and everyone else who had a look. appreciate it :)
 
 



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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-25 Thread Subash
On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:55:02 -0400
Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I'm guessing that since you had the services of pack mules you didn't
 have to be as careful as you might have otherwise what equipment you
 had with you, but I would be interested to know what you used to
 create these images.

that's what i'd thought too. i had taken a mz-5n, k200d and as for
lenses, the tamron 17-50/2.8, tamron 24-135 and the fa50/1.4. i ended
mostly using the k200d with the tamron 24-135 (most of the shots here
are from that combo). next time i go on a trek like this, i am just
planning to take a good point and shoot. eventually the weight does get
to you... :)

thanks for looking...

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Re: My light meter working OK?

2012-05-25 Thread Mark C

If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:

1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably 
did this but just in case...
2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer 
sized white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - 
fill the frame with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, letting 
the black foam core start to fill the frame. Keep the paper plate 
centered in the finder - you will see the meter reading stay steady and 
then rapidly change as the plate gets smaller than the area being 
metered. You can verify that the spot being measured correlates the to 
the circle in the center of the frame. You could do that with the 
Sekonic as well.
3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge of 
the size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the grey 
card.
4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray card, 
then test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and compare 
to the sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply with that.
5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment 
factor for the other.
6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to 
different colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control 
point. One meter may be more sensitive to green, another to red, you 
can't use one to calibrate the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule with 
different colors, of course..


Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver BW?

If BW, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) and 
compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film ISO 
setting (same thing), your development times and agitation regimen. Use 
the data printed along the edge of the film as a control point for 
developing. If you are shooting slide film you have to be more careful 
with metering.


Here's a story about metering and slide film:

I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot this 
lighthouse:


http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm

He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color 
corrected metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot 
metered off the black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my head, 
and set the exposure manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film (him 
Provia, me E100S.) My shots came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 stop 
over exposed, but very usable. His were a mess. SO taking control of 
metering with film is important.


Good luck!

MCC




On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:

I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.

Does this sound like a decent calibration method?

I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
stops.

Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
never used one.

Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
model, but good ones are expensive!
Thanks,




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Re: My light meter working OK?

2012-05-25 Thread Mark C

If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:

1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably 
did this but just in case...
2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer 
sized white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - 
fill the frame with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, letting 
the black foam core start to fill the frame. Keep the paper plate 
centered in the finder - you will see the meter reading stay steady and 
then rapidly change as the plate gets smaller than the area being 
metered. You can verify that the spot being measured correlates the to 
the circle in the center of the frame. You could do that with the 
Sekonic as well.
3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge of 
the size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the grey 
card.
4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray card, 
then test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and compare 
to the sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply with that.
5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment 
factor for the other.
6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to 
different colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control 
point. One meter may be more sensitive to green, another to red, you 
can't use one to calibrate the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule with 
different colors, of course..


Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver BW?

If BW, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) and 
compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film ISO 
setting (same thing), your development times and agitation regimen. Use 
the data printed along the edge of the film as a control point for 
developing. If you are shooting slide film you have to be more careful 
with metering.


Here's a story about metering and slide film:

I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot this 
lighthouse:


http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm

He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color 
corrected metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot 
metered off the black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my head, 
and set the exposure manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film (him 
Provia, me E100S.) My shots came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 stop 
over exposed, but very usable. His were a mess. SO taking control of 
metering with film is important.


Good luck!

MCC




On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:

I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.

Does this sound like a decent calibration method?

I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
stops.

Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
never used one.

Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
model, but good ones are expensive!
Thanks,




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Re: My light meter working OK?

2012-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

On May 25, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Mark C wrote:

 If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:
 
 1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably did 
 this but just in case...
 2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer sized 
 white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - fill the frame 
 with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, letting the black foam core 
 start to fill the frame. Keep the paper plate centered in the finder - you 
 will see the meter reading stay steady and then rapidly change as the plate 
 gets smaller than the area being metered. You can verify that the spot 
 being measured correlates the to the circle in the center of the frame. You 
 could do that with the Sekonic as well.
 3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge of the 
 size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the grey card.
 4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray card, then 
 test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and compare to the 
 sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply with that.
 5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment factor 
 for the other.
Well though out, but I don't think that's precise enough to get an accurate 
calibration. Sunlight intensity varies by the season and by atmospheric 
conditions.  The only way to be sure a meter is accurate is to have it checked 
by a professional calibration service. Quality Light Metric in L.A. 
323-467-2265 is among the very best. They calibrate meters for many of the DPs 
who work in the film industry. 

Paul


 6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
 consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to different 
 colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control point. One meter may 
 be more sensitive to green, another to red, you can't use one to calibrate 
 the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule with different colors, of course..
 
 Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver BW?
 
 If BW, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) and 
 compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film ISO setting 
 (same thing), your development times and agitation regimen. Use the data 
 printed along the edge of the film as a control point for developing. If you 
 are shooting slide film you have to be more careful with metering.
 
 Here's a story about metering and slide film:
 
 I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot this 
 lighthouse:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm
 
 He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color corrected 
 metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot metered off the 
 black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my head, and set the exposure 
 manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film (him Provia, me E100S.) My shots 
 came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 stop over exposed, but very usable. His 
 were a mess. SO taking control of metering with film is important.
 
 Good luck!
 
 MCC
 
 
 
 
 On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:
 I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
 I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
 metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
 readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
 the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
 I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
 line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
 the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
 settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.
 
 Does this sound like a decent calibration method?
 
 I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
 that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
 the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
 off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
 stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
 get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
 while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
 away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
 stops.
 
 Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
 never used one.
 
 Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
 accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
 readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
 model, but good ones are expensive!
 Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

2012-05-25 Thread Stan Halpin
A few minor issues I see...

- Your cover photo is of a happy sailor, but the only gallery you show is 
Katrina. Is this the cover photo for the Katrina gallery? In general, I think 
you need to be careful about the associations implied by the physical 
relationship between elements on your page. 
- I do not like the site name. Unless all of the included photos now and 
forever more will be TX400, and/or your intended audience is a bunch of old 
guys with nostalgic memories of the days when men were men, boys were boys, and 
real photographers shot low light BW, I think the name is somewhere between a 
misrepresentation and a bunch of random characters with no meaning to the 
majority of the audience.
- Others have already pointed out the need for a gallery index. I click on the 
Katrina link, I see an image, and then I close the page and the site. If you do 
not add an index, make sure your best image is the first one because that is 
likely t be the only one anyone looks at.

stan

On May 24, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

 After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
 ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad. 
 
 Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
 not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
 up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
 taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
 
 The site is www.400tx.com. 
 
 Thanks much, in advance.
 
 Jeffery
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Jeffery L. Smith
 New Orleans, Louisiana
 USA
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