Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 4 July 2012 21:44, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks, Chris!

 Williamsburg was Virginia's capital during the colonial period, and until 
 1780 (when it moved to Richmond).  Colonial Williamsburg is a nonprofit 
 organization that began restoring the colonial capital beginning in the 
 1930s, with Rockefeller support.  They describe themselves as a living 
 museum of life in pre-revolution Williamsburg, including most of the 
 colonial-era crafts.  There are also a number of historical and archeological 
 researches going on.  It's a marvelous place to spend a few days.

 Rick

Thanks for the explanation Rick. I can rest easy knowing that all's
well in the space / time continuum again...

...although there seems to be a tiny piece of controversy over whether
it's a theme park or not!

Chris

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Re: OT - July 4th, By the Dawn's Early Light - something else might be liberated

2012-07-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
I agree with the balloon example you describe John. But where did all the space 
on the inside (as populated with matter as the outside surface of the balloon) 
come from. When I speak or think of a singularity in the current model, I am 
referring to the Big Bang, before which there was no time, no matter, no 
space. 

Given those criteria, looking out into space at the stars and galaxies, we 
are looking back in time as well. IF we could see all the way back to the time 
of the beginning, would we not be at the singularity from which this all 
resulted?  QED - the beginning of time, matter, mass, and space, IF found, 
would be around the entire collection of stuff that is between us and there, 
there being an infinitesimally small point with no time beyond it, one would be 
looking back to the origin of all that stuff. So either space - time is warped 
back upon itself to that singularity, or the singularity encloses all we can 
know.

A complication that has to be ignored or encompassed is the theory that with 
the calculated expansion accelerating at some point out there we may not be 
able to see anything, as whatever is there is moving at or faster than the 
speed of light. They're looking into that as well, I think. Allows for the 
thought that the singularity was an infinitesimally dense and small Black Hole, 
which may be what is out there beyond what we can see, an event horizon of an 
unknown.

All very perplexing. Wish I could live another 100 years. Other than the 
overcrowding and starvation that will come if we keep on procreating at todays 
rate. My arthritis would be a negative, unless some magic elixir was found 
which cured it or eliminated it. I expect the scientific findings will be 
incredible. Science has a ways to go in that regard. Good for them, as the 
quest keeps them and their families fed and housed.   :)


On Jul 4, 2012, at 18:26 , John Francis wrote:

 Nope.  There's no single origin point; the expansion is uniform throughout 
 space.
 
 Perhaps it might help you to think about the surface of a balloon as it is 
 being inflated.
 The surface is expanding uniformly everywhere, with no special central point.


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Re: My first LR blurb

2012-07-05 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)
Unfortunately, I can't see the book on my phone.  What is the title?

Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:


PS, thanks to Larry for giving me the title. Had an inchoate idea of
the 
book for weeks before settling on this. FWIW, I usually set my lens for

2m, and f8 if the light is good, so viewing distance is reasonably
close.

D


On 4/07/2012 8:11 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

 Really liking the new blurb module in LR. Being able to tweak the raw

 files and jump back into the book makes life so easy compared to
using 
 booksmart.

 http://www.blurb.com/books/3369094




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Re: OT - July 4th, By the Dawn's Early Light - something else might be liberated

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
My favorite part of this is the origin of the  name the God particle
for the Higgs boson.  Leon Lederman, who won the Nobel prize for
finding the bottom quark, wrote a book about the Higgs boson and how
elusive it was.  He wanted to call the book The Goddamn Particle but
the publishers balked and it got changed to The God Particle.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 I agree with the balloon example you describe John. But where did all the 
 space on the inside (as populated with matter as the outside surface of the 
 balloon) come from. When I speak or think of a singularity in the current 
 model, I am referring to the Big Bang, before which there was no time, no 
 matter, no space.

 Given those criteria, looking out into space at the stars and galaxies, we 
 are looking back in time as well. IF we could see all the way back to the 
 time of the beginning, would we not be at the singularity from which this 
 all resulted?  QED - the beginning of time, matter, mass, and space, IF 
 found, would be around the entire collection of stuff that is between us and 
 there, there being an infinitesimally small point with no time beyond it, one 
 would be looking back to the origin of all that stuff. So either space - time 
 is warped back upon itself to that singularity, or the singularity encloses 
 all we can know.

 A complication that has to be ignored or encompassed is the theory that with 
 the calculated expansion accelerating at some point out there we may not be 
 able to see anything, as whatever is there is moving at or faster than the 
 speed of light. They're looking into that as well, I think. Allows for the 
 thought that the singularity was an infinitesimally dense and small Black 
 Hole, which may be what is out there beyond what we can see, an event 
 horizon of an unknown.

 All very perplexing. Wish I could live another 100 years. Other than the 
 overcrowding and starvation that will come if we keep on procreating at 
 todays rate. My arthritis would be a negative, unless some magic elixir was 
 found which cured it or eliminated it. I expect the scientific findings will 
 be incredible. Science has a ways to go in that regard. Good for them, as the 
 quest keeps them and their families fed and housed.   :)


 On Jul 4, 2012, at 18:26 , John Francis wrote:

 Nope.  There's no single origin point; the expansion is uniform throughout 
 space.

 Perhaps it might help you to think about the surface of a balloon as it is 
 being inflated.
 The surface is expanding uniformly everywhere, with no special central point.


 It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long..
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Re: Peso: NMR, Vermeer, and the Broken Tube

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Since our technician is away for family matters, I also get to do the
liquid nitrogen fills and, along with Phil, the liquid helium fills.
Not complicated but always very Hollywood with the vapor plumes and
ice forming everywhere.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:02 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jul 4, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Unfortunately, both broken tubes were reference samples. $$$ The good
 news is that I'm just helping during vacations and, being a theorist,
 none of this actually affects me.  ;-)

 This is why you should never let theorists into the lab because things 
 mysteriously start breaking ;)

 I've never seen a superconducting magnet but from what I've read they're very 
 interesting.

 Dave


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Re: Peso: The Ice Tea Party

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, what a mess.  Copied the embedded link by mistake.  Here's a better one:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg



On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of the many booths at the July 4 celebration:

 a 
 href=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1946432904k=2Lh2Rkplb=1s=A;
 title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMugimg
 src=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg;
 title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMug alt=Photo  Video Sharing by
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Re: Peso: The Ice Tea Party

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

In the words of one of our favorite Canadians.. HAR!

ann
On 7/5/2012 08:30, Steven Desjardins wrote:

One of the many booths at the July 4 celebration:

a 
href=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1946432904k=2Lh2Rkplb=1s=A;
title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMugimg
src=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg;
title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMug alt=Photo  Video Sharing by
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Re: Peso: The Ice Tea Party

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

for some odd reason the first one worked for me
clever Thudnerbird

ann

On 7/5/2012 08:33, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Wow, what a mess.  Copied the embedded link by mistake.  Here's a better one:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg



On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

One of the many booths at the July 4 celebration:

a 
href=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1946432904k=2Lh2Rkplb=1s=A;
title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMugimg
src=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg;
title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMug alt=Photo  Video Sharing by
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Dry but Pricey

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/hydrophobia-70-200-rain-cover.aspx

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Peso: Jeepster

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
The Jeepster (for those that don't know) was a passenger car version
of the Jeep.  Not a big sales hit but there was a real beauty at the
4th celebration yesterday:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-QXQ6NCH/0/L/jeepster-L.jpg

Taken with the Q.

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Re: Peso: Jeepster

2012-07-05 Thread Bruce Walker
I did not know about the Jeepster. This one's a beaut. Looks like it
just came off the line.


On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Jeepster (for those that don't know) was a passenger car version
 of the Jeep.  Not a big sales hit but there was a real beauty at the
 4th celebration yesterday:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-QXQ6NCH/0/L/jeepster-L.jpg

 Taken with the Q.

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Peso: More Old Car Parts

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hood ornament:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-gGdR4Vh/0/XL/ford-ornament-XL.jpg

The inside of the Jeepster:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-32VgFrQ/0/XL/Jeepster-2-XL.jpg

Pentax Q

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FE: PDML Book update

2012-07-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts


We've sold 45 copies so far, not including my 3 proof copies (and a
bunch of ebooks as well). One of the final proof copies went to Dr.
Carlos at Dana-Farber. Were at a picnic on Sunday (for the Children's
Hospital Solid Tumor Service, if you must know) and Carlos and several
other Dana-Farber people were there. Most of them had heard about the
book and everyone who saw it was very impressed. General opinion
seems to be that this is the best one yet so I'm hoping to push for a
little more publicity this time out. We've been assigned out own
official contact at Dana-Farber and I'd like to send a copy to her, as
well as one or two copies to various media contacts. See if we can
raise our profile a little, ya know?

We've had a few donations to this end. Even five dollars would help;
If you can kick in a couple of bucks
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm is the place.

Thanks!


I will be ordering a couple of copies soon; probably within the week.

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Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-07-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rick Womer


Ummm... no.

Colonial Williamsburg has nothing to do with Busch Gardens and
Universal Studios besides being in the same county.

The restoration of colonial (small c) Williamsburg was the brainchild
of a College of William and Mary professor, who was distressed to see
the last 18th century buildings in the center of town disappearing.?
The restoration involved pulling down a number of 19th C buildings,
to make way for reconstructed 18th C ones.

The restored and reconstructed buildings are mostly where they were,
and how they appeared, circa 1740.

Yes, the Colonial Williamsburg shopkeepers drive their cars back to
their 20th-21st C houses at the end of the day.? What would you
expect?? That they'd be riding horses and using privies?

Rick


I expect a recognition of the difference between historyness and history.

The amusement parks came there later because the original Colonial 
Williamsburg tourist attraction was successful. The money behind 
Colonial Williamsburg capitalized on that success.


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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-07-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Walter Hamler


Here is one pano that I put together.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005k=423ZF6Vlb=1s=A

Walt


Quite nice. Where did you take the photos you made this from?

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Re: I also got a book today

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/7/12, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

I think Mark's just playing with our minds.  If there's any cormorants  
in The Photographs section, I'll eat Cotty's hat.

Holy Hors d'oeuvres, I'll be opening up a restaurant at this rate.

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Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/7/12, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

A boys' fife-and-drum corps marches the length of Colonial
Williamsburg's main street most afternoons at 1. Waiting is hard.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16012213size=lg

or,

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Williamsburg-
June-2012/23885974_VkdzQG#!i=1937106977k=RRm5vQ7


(K-5, DA 50-200)


Comments appreciated!

Nice shot Rick. I could murder a closer crop.

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PESO - Greenwich After Hours

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
Enjoying my monochrome phase:

http://cottycam.posterous.com/greenwich-after-hours



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PESO - Beach and Sky, Polzeath, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
We get the occasional big sky in England.

http://cottycam.posterous.com/beach-and-sky-polzeath-cornwall-2012

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PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
Nothing for months and now 3 at once! C'est la vie!

http://cottycam.posterous.com/coastal-sedimentary-rock-cornwall-2012

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Re: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Jack Davis
I very much like an element (or two) in each of these. 
All nicely rendered. 

Jack Davis
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
http://www.photolightimages.com/

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To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:17 AM
Subject: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

Nothing for months and now 3 at once! C'est la vie!

http://cottycam.posterous.com/coastal-sedimentary-rock-cornwall-2012

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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-07-05 Thread Walter Hamler
John, these were from one of the viewpoints along the North Rim side.
They have opened up numerous new areas that you can park and walk just
a short distance to see incredible views. MUCH nicer than from South
Rim IMHO. I believe these were just east and north from the North Rim
Lodge viewpoint, which isn't all that great as far as vista's are
concerned.

For, Rick   PSElements does a remarkable job with pano's. From my
experience you need to allow for plenty of overlap when making shots
intended for pano's, at least 60% is best.

Walt

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Walter Hamler


 Here is one pano that I put together.


 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005k=423ZF6Vlb=1s=A

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RE: OT - July 4th, By the Dawn's Early Light - something else might be liberated

2012-07-05 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister
 
 I agree with the balloon example you describe John. But where did all
 the space on the inside (as populated with matter as the outside
 surface of the balloon) come from. When I speak or think of a
 singularity in the current model, I am referring to the Big Bang,
 before which there was no time, no matter, no space.
 

I don't claim to understand this stuff, but I don't think anyone claims
there was no time, no matter and no space, just that when we get there we
have plumbed the depths of our ignorance. In other words, we don't know
anything beyond the big bang, and we're probably in the position of the dog
that tries to contemplate double-entry bookkeeping - baffled - but it
doesn't mean double-entry bookkeeping doesn't exist.

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RE: PESO - Beach and Sky, Polzeath, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steve Cottrell
 
 We get the occasional big sky in England.
 
 http://cottycam.posterous.com/beach-and-sky-polzeath-cornwall-2012
 

you ain't seen nothin' yet...

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RE: PESO - Greenwich After Hours

2012-07-05 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steve Cottrell
 
 Enjoying my monochrome phase:
 
 http://cottycam.posterous.com/greenwich-after-hours
 

that's a terrific shot! The best curry-house in Greenwich, no less.

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Re: Dry but Pricey

2012-07-05 Thread Adam Montoya
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/hydrophobia-70-200-rain-cover.aspx


Dry but cheap.

http://optechusa.com/rainsleeve.html

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RE: Peso: Jeepster

2012-07-05 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steven Desjardins
 
 The Jeepster (for those that don't know) was a passenger car version of
 the Jeep.  Not a big sales hit but there was a real beauty at the 4th
 celebration yesterday:
 
 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-QXQ6NCH/0/L/jeepster-
 L.jpg
 
 Taken with the Q.
 

you've got the universe reclining in your hair, man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcalYx51nwo

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Re: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Christine Aguila
These are fantastic!  Love them all, but Polzeath--wow, wonderful sky and 
cloud.  Are you back from Cornwall?  Cheers, Christine



On Jul 5, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

 Nothing for months and now 3 at once! C'est la vie!
 
 http://cottycam.posterous.com/coastal-sedimentary-rock-cornwall-2012
 
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GESO: a few fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Stan Halpin
Five selections from last night's local show (which was about 2 miles distant). 
Shot in DNG, exported as JPEGs from LR4.1 with no intervening processing. No 
cropping, no color adjustments, no sharpening, nada. 
K20D with DA*60-250, mostly at 225-250.

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Re: GESO: a few fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Stan Halpin
Du'oh. And here's the link:  http://smhalpin.posterous.com/fireworks-from-afar

(In my defense, I would like to note that I just walked 18 holes of golf in 
98°F temps. My brain is fried.)

stan

On Jul 5, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 Five selections from last night's local show (which was about 2 miles 
 distant). Shot in DNG, exported as JPEGs from LR4.1 with no intervening 
 processing. No cropping, no color adjustments, no sharpening, nada. 
 K20D with DA*60-250, mostly at 225-250.
 
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In the Heat of the Nite

2012-07-05 Thread Don Guthrie
It has very hot in the midwest as everywhere else but I did manage to 
get out at dusk and try the Pentax 28mm. I think these convey the heat 
and humidity but we Iowans are tough.


Do not look directly into the sun.







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Re: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/7/12, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

These are fantastic!  Love them all, but Polzeath--wow, wonderful sky
and cloud.  Are you back from Cornwall? 

Thanks Christine, and all others who looked and or commented.

Last night tonight, back to the grind Saturday for 5 days. Filming the
Olympic torch as is trundles through Oxon on Mon/Tue/Wed.

I will process some London pics soon and post :-)

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Re: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I find that image quite effective and pleasing.  There is nice
contrast between the smoothness of the sand or mud and the rough
texture of the large dark rock mass on the right.  I also like the way
the left-pointing wedge of the rock on the right is complemented by
the right-pointing distant land masses and cloud bank in the left
distance.  It makes for a strong composition, balanced in one sense
and unbalanced in another.
Dan Matyola
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 Nothing for months and now 3 at once! C'est la vie!

 http://cottycam.posterous.com/coastal-sedimentary-rock-cornwall-2012

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Re: PESO - Greenwich After Hours

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/7/12, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://cottycam.posterous.com/greenwich-after-hours
 

that's a terrific shot! The best curry-house in Greenwich, no less.

Thanks :)

One of the nice things I like about the X10 is the same thing I liked
about the Epson R-D1. You set it to B+W mode and you immediately think
in terms of monochrome - just like the days of wandering with HP5 in my
camera. And the camera does a really good job of rendering it in mono,
in my opinion. JUst before I stopped using film and got a Canon D60 (yes
a D60, not a 60D! - remember the D30? the next one up the road) I used
to shoot Ilford XP100 which was a C-41 bath if I recall correctly. That
film had amazing latitude. Now with digital and automatic bracketing
when needed, I can get very similar results.

I seriously can't see myself with a DSLR again in my lifetime.

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Re: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

I find that image quite effective and pleasing.  There is nice
contrast between the smoothness of the sand or mud and the rough
texture of the large dark rock mass on the right.  I also like the way
the left-pointing wedge of the rock on the right is complemented by
the right-pointing distant land masses and cloud bank in the left
distance.  It makes for a strong composition, balanced in one sense
and unbalanced in another.

Thanks for looking Dan. I burnt the sky in a bit but I didn't touch the
rock - although it looks like I've either burnt in the top half or
dodged the bottom half - I didn't! It's a straight in-camera mono
conversion. When I saw it I was reminded of St Ansel's northern
California beach work, although I don't for one second compare myself to
him - but the inspiration is there. Really appreciate your comments.

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Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)
One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the decisive 
moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I get at waiting for 
the decisive moment, the better everyone else seems to get at stepping in front 
of my camera just before the decisive moment.

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me dipping a 
dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer (press pass) stepped 
right between us to show his photo to someone.

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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/7/12, Larry Colen (On Droid4est), discombobulated, unleashed:

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me
dipping a dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer
(press pass) stepped right between us to show his photo to someone.

Sounds like he was a professional dick, to me.

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Re: OT - July 4th, By the Dawn's Early Light - something else might be liberated

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Har! Love that story!

I was wondering why they might call it the God Particle. I mean it may be 
necessary for big bang to be explainable but that doesn't make it God-like. 
Whatever attributes it might have I'd say they fall short of God.

;-)

But your story makes sense.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: Re: OT - July 4th, By the Dawn's Early Light - something else might 
be liberated

My favorite part of this is the origin of the  name the God particle
for the Higgs boson.  Leon Lederman, who won the Nobel prize for
finding the bottom quark, wrote a book about the Higgs boson and how
elusive it was.  He wanted to call the book The Goddamn Particle but
the publishers balked and it got changed to The God Particle.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 I agree with the balloon example you describe John. But where did all the 
 space on the inside (as populated with matter as the outside surface of the 
 balloon) come from. When I speak or think of a singularity in the current 
 model, I am referring to the Big Bang, before which there was no time, no 
 matter, no space.

 Given those criteria, looking out into space at the stars and galaxies, we 
 are looking back in time as well. IF we could see all the way back to the 
 time of the beginning, would we not be at the singularity from which this 
 all resulted?  QED - the beginning of time, matter, mass, and space, IF 
 found, would be around the entire collection of stuff that is between us and 
 there, there being an infinitesimally small point with no time beyond it, one 
 would be looking back to the origin of all that stuff. So either space - time 
 is warped back upon itself to that singularity, or the singularity encloses 
 all we can know.

 A complication that has to be ignored or encompassed is the theory that with 
 the calculated expansion accelerating at some point out there we may not be 
 able to see anything, as whatever is there is moving at or faster than the 
 speed of light. They're looking into that as well, I think. Allows for the 
 thought that the singularity was an infinitesimally dense and small Black 
 Hole, which may be what is out there beyond what we can see, an event 
 horizon of an unknown.

 All very perplexing. Wish I could live another 100 years. Other than the 
 overcrowding and starvation that will come if we keep on procreating at 
 todays rate. My arthritis would be a negative, unless some magic elixir was 
 found which cured it or eliminated it. I expect the scientific findings will 
 be incredible. Science has a ways to go in that regard. Good for them, as the 
 quest keeps them and their families fed and housed.   :)


 On Jul 4, 2012, at 18:26 , John Francis wrote:

 Nope.  There's no single origin point; the expansion is uniform throughout 
 space.

 Perhaps it might help you to think about the surface of a balloon as it is 
 being inflated.
 The surface is expanding uniformly everywhere, with no special central point.


 It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long..
 — Anon

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Re: Peso: The Ice Tea Party

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I wish I knew what socialism isn't. I'm sure I'd agree with their position.  
;-)

And I would favour tax cuts - it's the spending cuts and service cuts I don't 
like. 

We currently have a let's cut spending mayor here in Toronto. He appealed to 
Joe Taxpayer: End the gravy train was his campaign slogan. Hey, everyone 
wants to stop waste, right?

He didn't tell us what he was going to stop spending money on until he was 
elected. Turned out he wanted to close libraries, public swimming pools, cut 
bus routes, privatize garbage pickup and snow removal (with the inevitable 
service cuts that go along with that).

I guess the moral is be careful what you wish for; It may come true.

That's a good shot, Steve.

Cheers,
frank



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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Peso: The Ice Tea Party

Wow, what a mess.  Copied the embedded link by mistake.  Here's a better one:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg



On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of the many booths at the July 4 celebration:

 a 
 href=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1946432904k=2Lh2Rkplb=1s=A;
 title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMugimg
 src=http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-2Lh2Rkp/0/L/Tread-L.jpg;
 title=Photo  Video Sharing by SmugMug alt=Photo  Video Sharing by
 SmugMug/a

 --
 Steve Desjardins



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RE: Peso: Jeepster

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I wonder if Willy's knew that the Jeepster would be a Shriner staple at parades 
sixty years later! 

They sure are funky vehicles!

When I was a young kid our neighbour, a mechanic, swore by Jeep Wagoneers. Said 
they were the best made, simplest, most reliable and easily repairable cars 
made in the US. 

They were chunky, very upright (in an era when lower and wider was 
Detroit's mantra) and had a harsh ride. They had four wheel drive (necessary as 
they had a cottage that required driving the last ten miles or so on muddy ruts 
- couldn't even call it a road).

Gee, sounds like an SUV, eh?

;-)

Again I digress.

Again, good picture, Steve.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: Peso: Jeepster

The Jeepster (for those that don't know) was a passenger car version
of the Jeep.  Not a big sales hit but there was a real beauty at the
4th celebration yesterday:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-QXQ6NCH/0/L/jeepster-L.jpg

Taken with the Q.

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Re: Dry but Pricey

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/5/2012 3:07 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/hydrophobia-70-200-rain-cover.aspx


Dry but cheap.

http://optechusa.com/rainsleeve.html

-Adam

Some day one of the big name camera company will come out with a weather 
resistant line of bodies and lenses and make all this stuff obsolete.


MCC


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RE: PESO - Greenwich After Hours

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Brilliant!!

I take back that snide comment I made to Christine about you.

;-)

Seriously, I love this photo. Damn, it's good!

cheers,
frank

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From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Greenwich After Hours

Enjoying my monochrome phase:

http://cottycam.posterous.com/greenwich-after-hours



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RE: PESO - Beach and Sky, Polzeath, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Excellent.

cheers,
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From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: PESO - Beach and Sky, Polzeath, Cornwall 2012

We get the occasional big sky in England.

http://cottycam.posterous.com/beach-and-sky-polzeath-cornwall-2012

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RE: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Damn, you're really on a roll, Cotty!

And of course I can't even hear the word Cornwall without thinking of the 
Python skit about the Chinese spies: Ah, yes, when boy, spend many happy 
summers in Cohn-a-wahrrr...

cheers,
frank

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From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

Nothing for months and now 3 at once! C'est la vie!

http://cottycam.posterous.com/coastal-sedimentary-rock-cornwall-2012

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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

the better I get at waiting for the decisive moment, the better everyone else 
seems to get at stepping in front of my camera just before the decisive moment.

That's a keeper!
 
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RE: In the Heat of the Nite

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Looks hot to me! Well conveyed, and gorgeous photos as well.

cheers,
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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: In the Heat of the Nite

It has very hot in the midwest as everywhere else but I did manage to 
get out at dusk and try the Pentax 28mm. I think these convey the heat 
and humidity but we Iowans are tough.

Do not look directly into the sun.







http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7508553958/

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RE: Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Those situations are where you need Gordie Howe Elbows.

Canadians (and Detroit Red Wing fans everywhere) will know exactly what I mean.

;-)

cheers,
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From: Larry Colen (On Droid4est) l...@red4est.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: Decisive moment

One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the decisive 
moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I get at waiting for 
the decisive moment, the better everyone else seems to get at stepping in front 
of my camera just before the decisive moment.

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me dipping a 
dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer (press pass) stepped 
right between us to show his photo to someone.

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July PUG - Going...going.........

2012-07-05 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Sunday so get 'em in while you still can.

So far we have 21 themed submissions and one Open Gallery submission.


The details:

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.



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Re: Geso Weekend not at Bernies

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/3/2012 5:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Hey all.

Just getting back from a great weekend at the Bro laws cottage on Lake
Nippising. Good company, weather fishing and cold beer. Not a bad way
to celebrate Canada's 145th birthday.

Any way here is a photo dot net gallery of some new shots. The first 7
are from this weekend past.

For the The water shots of Lennox, i went in the lake up to my chin to
get some level floaty shots.

K-5, D FA 16-45, AF360 fill flash.

Dave


Leaves much to the imagination... :-)

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Re: Home from UK Trip

2012-07-05 Thread mike wilson

On 04/07/2012 16:03, Christine Aguila wrote:


On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:26 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


Welcome back! Glad you survived Cotty et al.




More like you should be glad the Brits survived Darrel and me :-).  cheers, 
christine


You weren't that bad.  Well, Darrel was OK.  Er.
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Re: Geso Weekend not at Bernies part II

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/3/2012 9:01 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 7/3/2012 7:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:43 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hey all.

Just getting back from a great weekend at the Bro laws cottage on Lake
Nippising. Good company, weather fishing and cold beer. Not a bad way
to celebrate Canada's 145th birthday.

Any way here is a photo dot net gallery of some new shots. The first 7
are from this weekend past.

For the The water shots of Lennox, i went in the lake up to my chin to
get some level floaty shots.

K-5, D FA 16-45, AF360 fill flash.

Dave

Now with link

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=975383

Dave
Some great ones there, David, but my hands-down favorite is Fishing 
at Sunset. Wonderful, muted, striated colors and silhouette. I real 
keeper in my book.


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Nice shots - love the deer and the storm out the in the lake...


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Re: GESO: a few fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/5/2012 4:46 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Du'oh. And here's the link:  http://smhalpin.posterous.com/fireworks-from-afar

(In my defense, I would like to note that I just walked 18 holes of golf in 
98°F temps. My brain is fried.)

stan

On Jul 5, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


Five selections from last night's local show (which was about 2 miles distant). 
Shot in DNG, exported as JPEGs from LR4.1 with no intervening processing. No 
cropping, no color adjustments, no sharpening, nada.
K20D with DA*60-250, mostly at 225-250.

stan


And I just used my 'forgot the link joke on Dave...  Nice shots - the 
exposures look right on.


Mark


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Re: GESO: a few fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Lovely, Stan. 

I especially like the starbursts (#3  4).

cheers,
frank

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Christopher Hitchens

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Subject: Re: GESO: a few fireworks

Du'oh. And here's the link:  http://smhalpin.posterous.com/fireworks-from-afar

(In my defense, I would like to note that I just walked 18 holes of golf in 
98°F temps. My brain is fried.)

stan

On Jul 5, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 Five selections from last night's local show (which was about 2 miles 
 distant). Shot in DNG, exported as JPEGs from LR4.1 with no intervening 
 processing. No cropping, no color adjustments, no sharpening, nada. 
 K20D with DA*60-250, mostly at 225-250.
 
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Re: PESO - Nice Tie

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/2/2012 9:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Porcine neckwear..
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16019522


Whale of shirt, too. Nice shot.

Mark


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Re: PESO: Fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/2/2012 8:12 AM, David Parsons wrote:

It's that time again.  Fireworks all around until Wednesday.

This is from the next town over from me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7480147072/


That's cool... nice shot.

Mark


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Re: Dry but Pricey

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just in the nick of time:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/860658-REG/Pentax_15668_K30_Digital_Camera_Body.html

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 7/5/2012 3:07 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/hydrophobia-70-200-rain-cover.aspx

 Dry but cheap.

 http://optechusa.com/rainsleeve.html

 -Adam

 Some day one of the big name camera company will come out with a weather
 resistant line of bodies and lenses and make all this stuff obsolete.

 MCC



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OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
no manual release.  I guess that's considered a presoak.

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Re: PESO: Fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, my eye sees a palm tree as well.  
Nice one.  Cheers, Christine 

On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com:
 
 It's that time again.  Fireworks all around until Wednesday.
 
 This is from the next town over from me.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7480147072/
 
 
 
 Excellent.  I agree with Jack - it does look a bit like someone set a palm 
 tree on fire
 
 
 
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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Christine Aguila
Oh geeez, 6 days.  Glad the power is finally on.  Cheers, Christine 
 7:30 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
 the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
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Re: PESO - Nice Tie

2012-07-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Mark. 

On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Mark C wrote:

 On 7/2/2012 9:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Porcine neckwear..
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16019522
 
 Whale of shirt, too. Nice shot.
 
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Re: PESO Chairman of the board

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/3/2012 4:36 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

The City of Mississauga hires experienced boarders to keep an eye on
the skateboard plaza on the grounds of City Hall. I had a very
pleasant chat with City employee Brian and his friend Rachel ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7481470456/lightbox/

K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/5.6, 1/100th sec, 400 ISO. Lr 4.1.


Nice shot. ( I was expecting Frank Sinatra.)

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Re: Geso Weekend not at Bernies

2012-07-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
minimalist, even.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 7/3/2012 5:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Hey all.

 Just getting back from a great weekend at the Bro laws cottage on Lake
 Nippising. Good company, weather fishing and cold beer. Not a bad way
 to celebrate Canada's 145th birthday.

 Any way here is a photo dot net gallery of some new shots. The first 7
 are from this weekend past.

 For the The water shots of Lennox, i went in the lake up to my chin to
 get some level floaty shots.

 K-5, D FA 16-45, AF360 fill flash.

 Dave

 Leaves much to the imagination... :-)

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Re: PESO - Greenwich After Hours

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C

On 7/5/2012 12:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Enjoying my monochrome phase:

http://cottycam.posterous.com/greenwich-after-hours



A quiet moment nicely framed by the window. Great use of the BW, right 
down to the dishes and tables.


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RE: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Hope you didn't have bleach in there.

:O

cheers,
frank

ps: glad you got your power back!

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: OT: I feel the power!

At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
no manual release.  I guess that's considered a presoak.

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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve,
6 hot days with no AC?  We would have killed somebody by now.
Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: Peso: More Old Car Parts

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Both cool shots!

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: Peso: More Old Car Parts

Hood ornament:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-gGdR4Vh/0/XL/ford-ornament-XL.jpg

The inside of the Jeepster:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-32VgFrQ/0/XL/Jeepster-2-XL.jpg

Pentax Q

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Re: PESO: Fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Excellent.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 7/2/2012 8:12 AM, David Parsons wrote:

 It's that time again.  Fireworks all around until Wednesday.

 This is from the next town over from me.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7480147072/

 That's cool... nice shot.

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Re: PESO: Fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. A welcome departure from the typical fireworks shot.
On Jul 5, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Excellent.
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 7/2/2012 8:12 AM, David Parsons wrote:
 
 It's that time again.  Fireworks all around until Wednesday.
 
 This is from the next town over from me.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7480147072/
 
 That's cool... nice shot.
 
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PESO - Fife and Drum

2012-07-05 Thread Rick Womer
Finally they get to march:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16046972size=lg


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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I had AC at work, but evenings were tricky.  Still, we had water.
Lots of folks in the county have wells with electric pumps.
It was nice having that backlit Kindle fire to read after dark.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Steve,
 6 hot days with no AC?  We would have killed somebody by now.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Jack Davis
Do you live in the Maryland/Virginia area?
A couple years back we were without power for 38 hours. I can't imagine 6 
days.You poor devil! 

Jack Davis
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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
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Subject: OT: I feel the power!

At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
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Re: In the Heat of the Nite

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/5/2012 17:16, Don Guthrie wrote:

It has very hot in the midwest as everywhere else but I did manage to
get out at dusk and try the Pentax 28mm. I think these convey the heat
and humidity but we Iowans are tough.

Do not look directly into the sun.
 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7508553958/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7497006286/


oh, hell...

those tell the story alright

LIke the phone poles one slightly better - but then I like phone poles...

ann

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Re: PESO - Coastal Sedimentary Rock, Cornwall 2012

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

good stuff...

ann

On 7/5/2012 12:17, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Nothing for months and now 3 at once! C'est la vie!

http://cottycam.posterous.com/coastal-sedimentary-rock-cornwall-2012




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PESO the root of the problem

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele


for those of you following the sinkhole saga
I took this one yesterday

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/1947975432_sbsx5wg/Large

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, backup a couple of shots in 
that gallery of mine


this, in the middle of a serious labor dispute between the utilities 
company and the workers. The workers got locked out by the company

and the management is manning this work, it appears - but also
have hired outsiders.

I was sort of fascinated by the decaying infrastructure and a bit
concerned, as well, as this is only about 100  yards down the street 
from my building.


ann

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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
You know, since you were on line, it haddn't occured to me you had no 
power .. saw something you posted and thought, ah, ok he's alright.


Did you have a place to go to get cool?

ann

On 7/5/2012 20:30, Steven Desjardins wrote:

At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
no manual release.  I guess that's considered a presoak.




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RE: PESO the root of the problem

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
It's amazing that after a hundred years it's still mostly together and 
working...

Well documented series, Ann.

Cheers,
frank 

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
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Subject: PESO   the root of the problem


for those of you following the sinkhole saga
I took this one yesterday

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/1947975432_sbsx5wg/Large

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, backup a couple of shots in 
that gallery of mine

this, in the middle of a serious labor dispute between the utilities 
company and the workers. The workers got locked out by the company
and the management is manning this work, it appears - but also
have hired outsiders.

I was sort of fascinated by the decaying infrastructure and a bit
concerned, as well, as this is only about 100  yards down the street 
from my building.

ann

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Re: GESO: a few fireworks

2012-07-05 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Mark, Frank. 
Fireworks is one of those things that we seem to be compelled to photograph, 
and I would feel uneasy watching a fireworks display without camera in hand. 
But, truth be told, I have gotten quite bored with the same old same old 
displays, and I have gotten bored with  photographs of those same old sparkling 
lights. I think Dave Parson's image reflects the same feeling. This year I was 
looking for something different, and #'s 5 and 6 in the set (I added one more 
image) come closest to what I was after. I.e., not a photograph of a fireworks 
display, but a representation of chaotic light and darkness. Even the two 
starbursts that you like, Frank, I chose because they are distorted and 
somewhat enigmatic referents for star bursts in general.
BTW, the added image #6 has been cropped and minor clarity-incrase, sharpening, 
and noise-reduction operations performed. 

stan

On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:04 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lovely, Stan. 
 
 I especially like the starbursts (#3  4).
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
 Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO: a few fireworks
 
 Du'oh. And here's the link:  http://smhalpin.posterous.com/fireworks-from-afar
 
 (In my defense, I would like to note that I just walked 18 holes of golf in 
 98°F temps. My brain is fried.)
 
 stan
 
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 
 Five selections from last night's local show (which was about 2 miles 
 distant). Shot in DNG, exported as JPEGs from LR4.1 with no intervening 
 processing. No cropping, no color adjustments, no sharpening, nada. 
 K20D with DA*60-250, mostly at 225-250.
 
 stan


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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Steve's a physicist and an academic; he's already more than cool...

;-)

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com


snip
Did you have a place to go to get cool?

ann

On 7/5/2012 20:30, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
 the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
 had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
 no manual release.  I guess that's considered a presoak.



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RE: PESO - Fife and Drum

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Alas, after several months of problem-free viewing of photo.net with my 
android, tonight I can't get on. Hopefully tomorrow...

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Sent: July 5, 2012 7/5/12
To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Fife and Drum

Finally they get to march:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16046972size=lg


Rick

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Re: OT: I feel the power!

2012-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I knew that... :-)

a

On 7/6/2012 00:04, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Steve's a physicist and an academic; he's already more than cool...

;-)

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com


snip
Did you have a place to go to get cool?

ann

On 7/5/2012 20:30, Steven Desjardins wrote:

At 7:21 pm, my power came back on, which is an hour short of 6 days in
the dark.  I have one of those new HE washers that lock the lid.  I
had I wash in there for 15 minutes when the power went out and there's
no manual release.  I guess that's considered a presoak.







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