date:20120707

I'd say, it is not just a good deal, - rather it's a daylight robbery! :-)
Larry, tell us, how did you manage it? Did you torture the store owner
into submission (e.g. by reading him quotes from the PDML annual
some PDML pan threads)?

Take some good photos with it, Larry!

Cheers,

Igor

Sat Jul 7 19:23:09 EDT 2012
Stan Halpin wrote:

> Congratulations! Sounds like a good deal. Use it in good health.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
> 
> > Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
> > 80-200/2.8
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Re: BOOK - Ways Together - GDG

Big, big congrats, Godfrey--and a forward by Brooks Jensen!   Big congrats 
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Cheers, Christine 

On Jul 7, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> A new post is now available on my blog  ...
> 
> http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-book-the-announcement-the-invitation
> 
> featuring:
> 
> "Ways Together"
> 
> My new photo book now available from Blurb.com in hardback and paperback 
> editions. 
> With a foreword by Brooks Jensen, Editor, LensWork Publishing.
> 
> Visit my Blurb.com bookstore for a full preview:  
> http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto
> 
> -
> 
> You are invited to attend a reception and book signing event at 
> 
> ModernBook Gallery
> 49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA 
> 
> August 2nd, 2012 from 5:30 to 7:30 pm
> 
> Signed and numbered copies will be available at the event. 
> To reserve your copy for the event or to place an order for a signed and 
> number copy for postal delivery, please contact me 
> via email to godfreydigio...@me.com for more information. 
> 
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Re: PESO the root of the problem

2012-07-07 Thread David Mann

On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:20 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Unfortunately the alligators ate the dogs, now they just have to find 
> something that will eat the alligators.

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly...

(boy does that take me back)

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psychedelic photos by a pentaxian



While looking for something completely different, I came across
this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576&index=10

There are some interesting (indeed psychedelic) photos there. I thought some
PEMLers might be interested to look at this gallery.

Igor


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Boris Peso #28 - Take me away


Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/peso-2012-28-take-me-away.html

Please be brutal and honest.

Boris

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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread John Celio

Mark, this is exactly the response I was hoping for. Thank you *very*
much. I never would have thought the lens would be the part causing
the problem, nor that wider angle lenses would produce greater
magnification (though that kinda makes sense now that I think about
it). I will try it with my FA 50 (my only other small prime with an
aperture ring) right now.

Thanks,
John


On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM,   wrote:
> That is basically the same setup that I use for my snow crystal shots,
> except I use a 50mm lens reverse mounted. In fact, it is so simlar I
> just now pulled it out of the closet, set it up and put my D-FA 100mm
> macro on it. I have 300mm of extension (tubes and bellows) with the lens
> reverse mounted at the end.
>
> Your focusing problem lies in how how the D-FA 100 close focuses. I had
> no problem getting a shot in focus when the lens was set to infinity,
> and actually had ample working room. As I adjusted the lens's focusing
> mechanism  I quickly was unable to get anything into focus. Obviously,
> something about the internal focusing on the D-FA causes a problem with
> it reverse mounted.
>
> Focusing on a ruler, with the D-FA 100 at infinity, and using a full
> frame 35mm film camera (also pulled from the closet), I saw 8 to 9 mm in
> the view finder. SO I reckon it to be about 4x life sized. With the 50mm
> I routinely use on this setup, the finder on the full frame camera shows
> about 4 mm, so about 8x.
>
> If you really want to get extreme get a short and fast lens and use it
> on all that extension. A 24mm  on 300mm of extension would result in 16x
> or so magnification. Set the lens to infinity or use one that does not
> use internal focusing.
>
> Regarding protecting the delicate rear element of the lens - put a short
> extension tube on the rear lens mount. It will serve as a hood and also
> offer some protection to the rear element. To help with focusing - set
> up your rig in a dark place. Put a bright flashlight on the finder
> (where your eye would go). It will project a little rectangle of light
> that you can use to align your subject and get a sense of focusing
> distance with (when the rectangle is sharp, you are in focus.)
>
> Have fun -
>
> Mark

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Re: PESO - Greenwich After Hours


On 7/6/2012 12:57 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:


I seriously can't see myself with a DSLR again in my lifetime.



Oh! Well, if and when I get Ricoh GXR with 50 mm lens module, I intend 
to make it my main camera too...


Boris




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Re: OT - July 4th, "By the Dawn's Early Light" - something else might be liberated


Happy birthday!

On 7/4/2012 9:52 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

The particle physics world has been all a'twitter for more than a
week about some "great discovery" that I assumed was the Higgs Boson.
Fills a hole in many theories. May lead to better understanding of
the Universe as we don't know it 'fer sure.


Hmmm, is it like the great Ferma's theorem, that proved (pun intended), 
to be a rather small brick in the huge building of math. Popular brick 
nonetheless...


Boris

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I like it so far: CN-160 dimmable light



Following some positive responses from PDMLers, I "pulled the plug"
on the last pre-Taxas day on Amazon (as of July 1 Amazon charges sales
tax in Texas), and got this LED light:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VC8M3K/
http://goo.gl/kd4xx

It takes a bunch of different batteries, including 6 AA's and
rechargable Li batteries, so I've also got some rechargeable
generic NP-F550-replacement battery. Presumably, it should last 1.5-2
hours on a full charge. I haven't tested that yet. But it's nice
to have "AA"s as a simple backup option.

While my plans was to try it at the upcoming Austin Blues Party - 
an annual blues-dance event, I already used it (quite successfully)
to take a few photographs and some short video of my little daughter at 
home.
I like this light. It might be even a bit too bright when hitting
straight in the eyes, but what's nice is it is dimmable! I wish just
that in addition to the switch at the end of the range in the pot, it would 
have had a separate switch, so that I can have the brightness fixed
and be able to switch it on and off independently.
The handle that mounts into the hot-shoe looks a bit flimsy, but I hope
it will be ok.

Thanks to all who responded last month to my question about thit type of
LED lights.

Igor


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Travel plans


Hi there.

Galia and I will be spending second half of September with our friends 
in DC area. If any of you are inclined to meet with us, please reply off 
the list.


Thanks.

Boris

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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Anthony Farr

On 8 July 2012 02:40, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> I would put the fixed extension tubes on the camera, then the bellows, then 
> the hellicoid, then the lens.

For a moment I had the same thought, but then I remembered that in
extreme lens extension, especially for macro work, the first
preference is to focus by moving the whole rig back and forth so you
don't disturb the reproduction ratio.  The second preference is to
move the focal plane, which in this case means the camera body ,which
the helicoid tube behind the bellows achieves.  Only if all other
options are impossible should you rack the lens out, as doing so often
means having to make gross corrections to the camera position, as well
as risking contact between the lens and the subject.

Personally, I think John's rig is probably exceeding best practice for
this lens.  He's got the lens at about 3.5x focal length extension
(231.5mm ~ 251.5mm of tube & bellows plus the 1x focal length inherent
in the lens itself)  Extending the lens helicoid itself is doing some
unknown thing, but it's not adding extension to the main focusing
group of the lens, just extending the FREE element, which in reverse
position may or may not serve any purpose.

For big magnifications an enlarging lens often does a better job
because of it's conventional symmetrical design.  Modern camera lenses
with floating elements and such can quickly get out of their
design/performance envelope when they're put into non-standard
configurations.  That said, a wide angle lens reversed can give good
results at spectacular magnifications, although YMMV.

regards, Anthony

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RE: OT GESO - Oly 12mm

2012-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com

You're ~supposed~ to test lenses by taking photos of brick walls, blowing them 
way up and looking at things pixel by pixel. Silly you, testing a lens by 
taking amazing photos of pretty people on the streets of Sydney.

Tsk, tsk...

;-)

Very nice set, as always, Derby!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: July 7, 2012 7/7/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT GESO - Oly 12mm


This is the way I like to test lenses. Go out and shoot. I know Ctein 
over on TOP hated this lens, but he has different aims in his work, I 
suppose. Me, I love it. Feels like the FA77, realy quality. Shoots much 
better than the FA*24.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_07/12_07_12mm/index.htm

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Re: PESO - Cool Down


two thumbs up :-)

ann

On 7/7/2012 21:17, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672&size=lg




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Re: PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!


nice, natural shot - Yeah, I think the color is a tad nicer

ann

On 7/7/2012 22:05, frank theriault wrote:

Yesterday I posted a black and white portrait of my friend Toby, a
local bike messenger.  I did a colour version today which I like a lot
more:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby-in-living-colour.html

By way of comparision, here's the BW version:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html

What think you?  Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"

And to answer the question: Of course. Color printing is infinitely easier now. 
And with far more precise control of variables, inkjet printing is superior to 
optical printing as well. In theory, with a large format neg, a superb 
enlarging lens and lots of time, one cold produce a superior optical print, but 
I would that that, in practice,  that rarely happens.

On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I printed a handful of cibachrome 8 x 10s in the seventies. Still have a few. 
> Too time consuming, but nice results.
> 
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>> Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in 
>>> my 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Jeffery
>> 
>> Me too... but not to your numbers  but walk in closet and Ciba, yes.
>> 
>> In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black 
>> and white negs.  I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs.
>> 
>> Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of 
>> work.  I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple
>> on the wall.  But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>>> _
>>> Jeffery Smith
>>> Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA
>>> www.400tx.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> 
 To which I could only answer Duh?  I've done wet print processing with 
 Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no 
 comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet 
 printer makes color printing much easier.  Now are the images produced 
 better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question 
 to ask.
 
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Re: PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!

2012-07-07 Thread Jack Davis

Frank, when I read your set-up message, I assumed I'd agree with your B&W 
preference.
After seeing them both, I've changed my mind. I didn't expect it, but the color 
gave it warmth and a presence I found missing in the B&W.
 
J
 
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From: frank theriault 
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Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:05 PM
Subject: PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!

Yesterday I posted a black and white portrait of my friend Toby, a
local bike messenger.  I did a colour version today which I like a lot
more:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby-in-living-colour.html

By way of comparision, here's the BW version:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html

What think you?  Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
frank



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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"

I printed a handful of cibachrome 8 x 10s in the seventies. Still have a few. 
Too time consuming, but nice results.

On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> 
> 
> On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 
>> 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Jeffery
> 
> Me too... but not to your numbers  but walk in closet and Ciba, yes.
> 
> In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black 
> and white negs.  I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs.
> 
> Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. 
>  I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple
> on the wall.  But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> _
>> Jeffery Smith
>> Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA
>> www.400tx.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> 
>>> To which I could only answer Duh?  I've done wet print processing with 
>>> Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no 
>>> comparison a decent, and there are very few that aren't decent, inkjet 
>>> printer makes color printing much easier.  Now are the images produced 
>>> better, artistically, or more compelling somehow, that might be a question 
>>> to ask.
>>> 
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>>> a lengthly search.
>>> 
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Re: PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!

Very nice. The color adds personality here. Excellent portrait.
Paul
On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:05 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Yesterday I posted a black and white portrait of my friend Toby, a
> local bike messenger.  I did a colour version today which I like a lot
> more:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby-in-living-colour.html
> 
> By way of comparision, here's the BW version:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html
> 
> What think you?  Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
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PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!

2012-07-07 Thread frank theriault

Yesterday I posted a black and white portrait of my friend Toby, a
local bike messenger.  I did a colour version today which I like a lot
more:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby-in-living-colour.html

By way of comparision, here's the BW version:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html

What think you?  Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
frank



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OT GESO - Oly 12mm

2012-07-07 Thread Derby Chang



This is the way I like to test lenses. Go out and shoot. I know Ctein 
over on TOP hated this lens, but he has different aims in his work, I 
suppose. Me, I love it. Feels like the FA77, realy quality. Shoots much 
better than the FA*24.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_07/12_07_12mm/index.htm

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PESO - Cool Down

Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672&size=lg

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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"

2012-07-07 Thread Jeffery Smith

I did all of the printing for two editions of an Atlas of Parasitology while 
still a graduate student at Tulane. It took some convincing for me to get the 
two authors (old guys) to use Ektachrome instead of Kodachrome. At the time, 
New Orleans had the best color lab in the USA (Primary Color), and getting 
slides developed in an hour with no greenish hue did it. 

My biggest challenge was getting the plastic print drums absolutely clean 
between procedures. As I recall, it involved ammonia, detergent, my bathtub, 
and a rinse in Orbit bath to get the drums totally clean. 

Regards,

Jeffery
_
Jeffery Smith
Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA
www.400tx.com



On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> 
> 
> On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 
>> 1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Jeffery
> 
> Me too... but not to your numbers  but walk in closet and Ciba, yes.
> 
> In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop black 
> and white negs.  I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs.
> 
> Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of work. 
>  I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple
> on the wall.  But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> _
>> Jeffery Smith
>> Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA
>> www.400tx.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> 
>>> To which I could only answer Duh?  I've done wet print processing with 
>>> Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no 
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conversation with Marc Newson

2012-07-07 Thread Philip Northeast

Cam across this program with designer Marc Newson - you can listen via 
podcast( as I did ).


http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bydesign/conversation-with-designer-marc-newson/2916486


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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"




On 7/7/2012 20:43, Jeffery Smith wrote:

Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 
1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom.

Regards,

Jeffery


Me too... but not to your numbers  but walk in closet and Ciba, yes.

In fact, I learned cibachrome printing before I learned how to develop 
black and white negs.  I had been afraid I would mess up doing the negs.


Cibachrome chems were nasty and getting the exposure right was a lot of 
work.  I've got maybe 100 or so 8 x 10's in a file drawer and a couple

on the wall.  But their longevity so far at least is equal to the hype

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To which I could only answer Duh?  I've done wet print processing with 
Cibachrome, one of the easiest methods available in the 80's. There's no 
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Re: The Online Photographer asks; "Is color printing easier now?"

2012-07-07 Thread Jeffery Smith

Cibachrome actually goes back to the 70's. I printed thousands of them in my 
1-room studio apartment, using a walk-in closet as a darkroom. 

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> printer makes color printing much easier.  Now are the images produced 
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To which I could only answer Duh?  I've done wet print processing with 
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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Mark C

On 7/6/2012 10:52 PM, John Celio wrote:

So I have this setup for shooting seriously close-up macro:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CIUtr5fsiR0rzShfFjE08NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
That is: Camera / helicoid tube at 49mm / bellows at 137mm (approx)/
12mm tube / 20mm tube / 36mm tube / generic reverse mount ring / D-FA
100mm macro at 1:1

I've been meaning to share this for a while, because the last time I
tried using it in this configuration (sans rear cap on the lens, of
course), I was unable to focus on anything. I had a little flower
practically pressed against the glass at the end there but had to pull
the lens' focus back about halfway before I could actually focus on
it.

So I'm hoping you guys can help me figure a couple things out:

1. Is it possible to have a lens so far away from the sensor plane
that focus can't be achieved?

2. What's the macro ratio of this setup as it is in the picture?

3. Does it make a difference if I have the lens reverse-mounted like
this rather than mounted normally on the last extension tube?

4. Would it be ridiculous or just silly to attempt to add more
extension in the future?

John

That is basically the same setup that I use for my snow crystal shots,
except I use a 50mm lens reverse mounted. In fact, it is so simlar I
just now pulled it out of the closet, set it up and put my D-FA 100mm
macro on it. I have 300mm of extension (tubes and bellows) with the lens
reverse mounted at the end.

Your focusing problem lies in how how the D-FA 100 close focuses. I had
no problem getting a shot in focus when the lens was set to infinity,
and actually had ample working room. As I adjusted the lens's focusing
mechanism I quickly was unable to get anything into focus. Obviously,
something about the internal focusing on the D-FA causes a problem with
it reverse mounted.

Focusing on a ruler, with the D-FA 100 at infinity, and using a full
frame 35mm film camera (also pulled from the closet), I saw 8 to 9 mm in
the view finder. SO I reckon it to be about 4x life sized. With the 50mm
I routinely use on this setup, the finder on the full frame camera shows
about 4 mm, so about 8x.

If you really want to get extreme get a short and fast lens and use it
on all that extension. A 24mm on 300mm of extension would result in 16x
or so magnification. Set the lens to infinity or use one that does not
use internal focusing.

Regarding protecting the delicate rear element of the lens - put a short
extension tube on the rear lens mount. It will serve as a hood and also
offer some protection to the rear element. To help with focusing - set
up your rig in a dark place. Put a bright flashlight on the finder
(where your eye would go). It will project a little rectangle of light
that you can use to align your subject and get a sense of focusing
distance with (when the rectangle is sharp, you are in focus.)

Have fun -

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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-07 Thread Stan Halpin

Congratulations! Sounds like a good deal. Use it in good health.

stan

On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

> Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina 80-200/2.8
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Re: PESO the root of the problem

One of those small bent pipes is for gas... I know because the con ed
guy told me one had been cut my accident.. not sure about the other,

not very knowledgeable about this sort of thing.

The problem with brick is, I image, it's ease of being eroded -
especially the mortar, I'd think. but it doesn't rust anyway :-)

I'm not crazy about my photo, but I was intrigued by the subject..
had to lighten the shadows up too much in elements so you could see the
thing.

Odd thing, the area didn't smell - for which I was grateful..

ann

On 7/7/2012 18:04, Mark C wrote:

On 7/5/2012 11:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

for those of you following the sinkhole saga
I took this one yesterday

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/1947975432_sbsx5wg/Large

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, backup a couple of shots
in that gallery of mine

this, in the middle of a serious labor dispute between the utilities
company and the workers. The workers got locked out by the company
and the management is manning this work, it appears - but also
have hired outsiders.

I was sort of fascinated by the decaying infrastructure and a bit
concerned, as well, as this is only about 100 yards down the street
from my building.

ann

Never thought about brick pipes - but it lasted 100 years so it can't be
all bad! Interesting image. The smaller bent pipes are what? Water pipes?

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Re: PESO the root of the problem

2012-07-07 Thread Mark C


On 7/5/2012 11:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


for those of you following the sinkhole saga
I took this one yesterday

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/1947975432_sbsx5wg/Large 



If you have no idea what I'm talking about, backup a couple of shots 
in that gallery of mine


this, in the middle of a serious labor dispute between the utilities 
company and the workers. The workers got locked out by the company

and the management is manning this work, it appears - but also
have hired outsiders.

I was sort of fascinated by the decaying infrastructure and a bit
concerned, as well, as this is only about 100  yards down the street 
from my building.


ann

Never thought about brick pipes - but it lasted 100 years so it can't be 
all bad! Interesting image. The smaller bent pipes are what? Water pipes?


Mark


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Re: PESO - Muted Swan

2012-07-07 Thread Mark C


On 7/6/2012 7:49 AM, frank theriault wrote:

A slow day at the Lake last weekend, but just as I was about to leave,
when the evening light was nice:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/muted-swan.html

I haven't used my M200mm f4.0 much recently.  I'd forgotten that it's
a sharp little lens!

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank


Great light and great sharp image!

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da book


My present arrived today :-)

seeing it online doesn't hold a candle to the print version - well 
actually, looking at the version on line is like seeing something in 
candle light... on my monitor anyway.


- and I certainly missed a couple of important things.. one of which may 
remain a secret except from the 4 other poeple.  I mean I did aspire to 
the quote page but.. but...


Ok, enough of that.

Book looks great and I was really touched that one fine photographer
with the initials GG was feeling flush and generous ans surprised me 
with it.


Great job, Mark - and I may even forgive you ;-)

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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-07 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)

That would have been a PESO, or if I was really bad, a GESO.

"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

>On 7/7/2012 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
>> Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
>80-200/2.8
>I'm relieved  I thought this post might have something to do with whips
>
>and chains.  ..
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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-07 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> On 7/7/2012 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
>>
>> Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
>> 80-200/2.8
>
> I'm relieved  I thought this post might have something to do with whips and
> chains.  ..

In another thread, Collin is offering "one bottom and two tops."
Leather is somehow involved.

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Re: I was a bad boy


On 7/7/2012 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina 80-200/2.8
I'm relieved  I thought this post might have something to do with whips 
and chains.  ..


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I was a bad boy

2012-07-07 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)

Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina 80-200/2.8
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Re: And ode to a lens

Based on everything I've read, the Nikon 18-135 is the best of it's 
class.  Based on my handling it it beats the hell out of the Pentax FA 
28-200 which was Pentax's film equvelent.


On 7/2/2012 12:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
There are many who say that Nikkor 18-200 is the best superzoom for 
APS-C out there...


On 6/30/2012 6:35 PM, George Sinos wrote:

Not a Pentax product, but the brand isn't the topic here.  Gary Arndt
talks about replacing a lens that he's used on his world travels.  The
interesting part (to me, anyway) is how long he used the lens when it
was literally falling apart.

 



By the way, look at the photos on his site.  As he said, most of them
were taken with this one 18-200, f/3.5-5.6 lens.  Reminds me that you
don't always need a particular piece of equipment to produce good
work.  At $850 this is not exactly a cheap lens, but it's not
extremely expensive either.

gs

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Re: J.D. Powers Report: Pentax Crowned Best In DSLR Online Buyer Satisfaction

Nobody seems to have a killer mirrorless system.  They're all 
compromises, just like DSLRs.  Now that the bloom is off the rose, even 
the retro designed OM-D is garnering it's share of brickbats.  I read 
the user comments and came away with the impression that most fans of 
any system know nothing of any other system.


Let's see.  Since this is done by a survey of buyers, want to bet that 
none of those answering that Canon had the best image quality had ever 
actually seen Nikon or Pentax image quality, or more importantly tried 
to process a file from any camera but their own into something 
printable?  How about those if those buyers touting Pentax's great 
ergonomics had ever even held a Canon or Nikon?  If you really have 
nothing to compare what you've bought to, how do you know it's the best.




On 7/1/2012 9:34 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

The K7 and especially the K5 were real breakthrough digital cameras
for Pentax.  I'm hopeful Pentax will release that 'killer" mirrorless
system as well.  They currently have "great IQ but too big" and
"really small but sensor-limited" systems.  Third time's the charm.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

David Parsons wrote:


Nice.  Now if only Pentax had a way of telling potential customers
about this...

Thay have been via online media and social networks ever since the
announcement was made.

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BOOK - Ways Together - GDG

2012-07-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

A new post is now available on my blog  ...

 http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-book-the-announcement-the-invitation

featuring:

"Ways Together"

My new photo book now available from Blurb.com in hardback and paperback 
editions. 
With a foreword by Brooks Jensen, Editor, LensWork Publishing.

Visit my Blurb.com bookstore for a full preview:  
http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto

-

You are invited to attend a reception and book signing event at 

ModernBook Gallery
49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA 

August 2nd, 2012 from 5:30 to 7:30 pm

Signed and numbered copies will be available at the event. 
To reserve your copy for the event or to place an order for a signed and number 
copy for postal delivery, please contact me 
via email to godfreydigio...@me.com for more information. 

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Re: PESO the root of the problem

It could be worse, the water pipes where I went to college included some
made out of wood, dating from the Revolutionary war. Supposedly while
excavating, to repair one that broke, they found the skeleton of what
appeared to be an English solder, it wasn't a normal grave site.

On 7/6/2012 8:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

On 7/6/2012 07:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Interesting. The brick walls of the sewer pipe are visible.
Yup - which is what I was looking for - I had no idea (until the con
ed guy told me the day before) that sewer pipes were brick...at least
the ones on my street. I was able to get that shot because they
weren't working most of July 4th or I couldn't have gotten close enough.

ann

I would guess that all that wood structure is necessary to prevent
the hole from collapsing in around the workers.

Well documented.
Paul

On Jul 5, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

for those of you following the sinkhole saga
I took this one yesterday

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/1947975432_sbsx5wg/Large

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, backup a couple of shots
in that gallery of mine

this, in the middle of a serious labor dispute between the utilities
company and the workers. The workers got locked out by the company

and the management is manning this work, it appears - but also
have hired outsiders.

I was sort of fascinated by the decaying infrastructure and a bit
concerned, as well, as this is only about 100 yards down the street
from my building.

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Re: PESO the root of the problem


On 7/6/2012 8:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/6/2012 06:21, David Mann wrote:

On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Bob W wrote:


they should block that off quickly or the alligators will escape.


Maybe the reason it's broken is that they've already escaped...

Dave



Don't let the dogs out...

ann

Unfortunately the alligators ate the dogs, now they just have to find 
something that will eat the alligators.


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Re: Too serious and wearing blinders

2012-07-07 Thread Stan Halpin

I read through the full comment thread - it would seem that most of the posters 
need to read the "how to critique" item referenced here recently. I was amused 
by a couple of posters who were going on and on about wrinkles in the backdrop. 
I went back and looked, and sure enough, if you looked for them there were 
wrinkles in the backdrop. And who cares? The pictures are good captures, good 
in that they tell me something about the person and make me want to know more 
about them and wonder how they might do in their chosen competition(s). To do 
this well in a production-line setting, 2 minutes per subject, seems 
commendable to me. And I like that many break the "rules" about how to use a 
wide-angle lens in portraiture, how to balance lighting for 3/4 frontal 
portraits, etc. He produced a set of images that don't look like they had all 
been produced by the same cookie-cutter in a mindless exercise of good rules of 
portraiture.

I remember looking at the first or second gallery of wedding shots that tv 
posted here, and I recall how impressed I was with his work. A very different 
style and point of view, not at all what I think of as common wedding 
photography. I had the same sense looking at these images.

stan 

On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> 
> I would not say that I like all of these photos.
> Moreover, I am not compelled to like something because of the famed
> person (actually, I am not sure I've heard this photographer's name
> prior to this story, - but I am bad with names).
> I'd say my personal impression of them that is probably closer to
> that expressed by Christine: "overall, I think they're all right in a
> quirky, whimsical way".
> 
> By the [rather provocative] subject, I was referring to the reaction
> like "These images are terrible", "What a disgust.", etc.
> E.g. comment #7 represents the essence of some of those:
> "From KameraDude - 06/07/2012, 12:12 "
> http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons#c734
> 
> The entire story with all the buzz around it is rather funny and I
> thought it was worth a read. In my mind, it raised some interesting 
> questions about what is customary and accepted as "celebrity" photos
> (portaits).
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> Sat Jul 7 07:22:46 EDT 2012
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> Or perhaps just honest. Are we compelled to like them because they were
>> taken by a photographer who is esteemed by critics, and whose work must
>> therefore be high art? I think the shots are just okay. i find some of
>> them clever and nicely lit, but others strike me as trite and
>> simplistic. A couple of them which combine large heads with tiny feet
>> left me wondering why he chose that shooting angle with what appears to
>> be a somewhat wide lens.  And I'm neither serious nor wearing blinders.
>> I'm merely expressing an honest, subjective opinion. 
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> ... people who are criticizing on these Olympic athletes' photos:
>>> http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
>>> 
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FTAGH: ever-ready cases

2012-07-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Two old Spotmatic leather cases
Well, one bottom and two tops.
One is Honeywell and the other Asahi with the eye on it.

Just pay shipping.


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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Stan Halpin

John, I can't directly answer your questions, but have a couple of comments . . 
.

I am not sure if there is any logic or some practical reason(s) for your 
ordering of the components. But if it were me, I would put the fixed extension 
tubes on the camera, then the bellows, then the hellicoid, then the lens. This 
way all of the bits that can be adjusted for length/focus are at the front end.

I can't see why you would reverse a 100mm macro lens. As I understand it, the 
lens reversal achieves a closer focus, but with everything else you have going, 
why expose the delicate rear end of the lens this way? If you didn't have a 
macro, then reversing a normal 50mm lens could make sense, but this seems 
unnecessary.

This much extension is going to suck up every photon in the neighborhood; if 
the object you are imaging is too close to the surface of the lens element, 
that certainly complicates using flash to try to bring your exposure time 
within reason. 

Mark C. provided extensive discussions of his development of a workable system 
to capture his very fine snowflake images - you might want to check back in the 
archives, that could be helpful.

As to whether more extension is ridiculous or just silly, my answer is that 
size per se doesn't matter. It is all in how you are going to use it and the 
results you are trying to achieve. If you keep going, at some point you will 
need extensive scaffolding to hold the system, several solar reflectors to add 
enough light to the system, and it will be difficult to move the system. Maybe 
a backpackable electron microscope would be more practical? But again, it 
depends on what itty bitty object you are trying to capture.

stan

On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:52 PM, John Celio wrote:

> So I have this setup for shooting seriously close-up macro:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CIUtr5fsiR0rzShfFjE08NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
> That is: Camera / helicoid tube at 49mm / bellows at 137mm (approx)/
> 12mm tube / 20mm tube / 36mm tube / generic reverse mount ring / D-FA
> 100mm macro at 1:1
> 
> I've been meaning to share this for a while, because the last time I
> tried using it in this configuration (sans rear cap on the lens, of
> course), I was unable to focus on anything. I had a little flower
> practically pressed against the glass at the end there but had to pull
> the lens' focus back about halfway before I could actually focus on
> it.
> 
> So I'm hoping you guys can help me figure a couple things out:
> 
> 1. Is it possible to have a lens so far away from the sensor plane
> that focus can't be achieved?
> 
> 2. What's the macro ratio of this setup as it is in the picture?
> 
> 3. Does it make a difference if I have the lens reverse-mounted like
> this rather than mounted normally on the last extension tube?
> 
> 4. Would it be ridiculous or just silly to attempt to add more
> extension in the future?
> 
> 
> John
> 
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RE: Too serious and wearing blinders

2012-07-07 Thread Bob W

I think they're quite interesting, and a worthwhile attempt to do something
different with portraits of Olympians. The guy's obviously a good
photographer. Whether the pictures last beyond 2012 - I doubt it - he's no
Leni Riefenstahl.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Igor Roshchin
> Sent: 07 July 2012 15:49
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Too serious and wearing blinders
> 
> 
> I would not say that I like all of these photos.
> Moreover, I am not compelled to like something because of the famed
> person (actually, I am not sure I've heard this photographer's name
> prior to this story, - but I am bad with names).
> I'd say my personal impression of them that is probably closer to that
> expressed by Christine: "overall, I think they're all right in a
> quirky, whimsical way".
> 
> By the [rather provocative] subject, I was referring to the reaction
> like "These images are terrible", "What a disgust.", etc.
> E.g. comment #7 represents the essence of some of those:
> "From KameraDude - 06/07/2012, 12:12 "
> http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-
> piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons#c734
> 
> The entire story with all the buzz around it is rather funny and I
> thought it was worth a read. In my mind, it raised some interesting
> questions about what is customary and accepted as "celebrity" photos
> (portaits).
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> Sat Jul 7 07:22:46 EDT 2012
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> > Or perhaps just honest. Are we compelled to like them because they
> were
> > taken by a photographer who is esteemed by critics, and whose work
> must
> > therefore be high art? I think the shots are just okay. i find some
> of
> > them clever and nicely lit, but others strike me as trite and
> > simplistic. A couple of them which combine large heads with tiny feet
> > left me wondering why he chose that shooting angle with what appears
> to
> > be a somewhat wide lens.  And I'm neither serious nor wearing
> blinders.
> > I'm merely expressing an honest, subjective opinion.
> >
> > On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ... people who are criticizing on these Olympic athletes' photos:
> > > http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-
> piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Igor
> > >
> > >
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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

When you reverse a lens the focus point is very close to the rear
element. With your setup the focus point is somewhere inside the lens
if not inside the bellows, (yes I know that's not technically true but
the hyperbole expresses the problem), use a longer lens and don't
reverse it if you want to use that setup. If it were me I'd just use
the 12mm extension and the bellows, with the 100mm the focus point will
be just a few millimeters from the front of the lens.

On 7/6/2012 10:52 PM, John Celio wrote:

So I'm hoping you guys can help me figure a couple things out:

1. Is it possible to have a lens so far away from the sensor plane
that focus can't be achieved?

2. What's the macro ratio of this setup as it is in the picture?

3. Does it make a difference if I have the lens reverse-mounted like
this rather than mounted normally on the last extension tube?

4. Would it be ridiculous or just silly to attempt to add more
extension in the future?

John

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Re: Too serious and wearing blinders

I would not say that I like all of these photos.
Moreover, I am not compelled to like something because of the famed
person (actually, I am not sure I've heard this photographer's name
prior to this story, - but I am bad with names).
I'd say my personal impression of them that is probably closer to
that expressed by Christine: "overall, I think they're all right in a
quirky, whimsical way".

By the [rather provocative] subject, I was referring to the reaction
like "These images are terrible", "What a disgust.", etc.
E.g. comment #7 represents the essence of some of those:
"From KameraDude - 06/07/2012, 12:12 "
http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons#c734

The entire story with all the buzz around it is rather funny and I
thought it was worth a read. In my mind, it raised some interesting 
questions about what is customary and accepted as "celebrity" photos
(portaits).

Igor

Sat Jul 7 07:22:46 EDT 2012
Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Or perhaps just honest. Are we compelled to like them because they were
> taken by a photographer who is esteemed by critics, and whose work must
> therefore be high art? I think the shots are just okay. i find some of
> them clever and nicely lit, but others strike me as trite and
> simplistic. A couple of them which combine large heads with tiny feet
> left me wondering why he chose that shooting angle with what appears to
> be a somewhat wide lens.  And I'm neither serious nor wearing blinders.
> I'm merely expressing an honest, subjective opinion. 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
> > 
> > ... people who are criticizing on these Olympic athletes' photos:
> > http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Igor
> > 
> > 

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Re: PESO - Toby

2012-07-07 Thread Steven Desjardins

Actually, I didn't notice the sharpness at all.  He has a really
interesting face.

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Toby has an interesting face thus making him an interesting subject.  The 
> crop here seems a tad tight to my eye, Frank.  But overall a nice picture.  
> Cheers, Christine
> (Ok, that was only three sentences.  Just give me a chance to warm up, and 
> I'll get this sandwich critique mastered :-)).
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 8:50 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Toby is a bike messenger here in Toronto. I think he has a very interesting 
>> face. This isn't the sharpest portrait ever, but I rather like it:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you do as well. Comments always appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESOs -- Dana & Rose

Your pictures and descriptions of the subjects match perfectly, Peter!  Cheers, 
Christine


On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> The Fourth of July.  If you're an American its a day for Picnics and 
> Fireworks.  I spent the time visiting friends.  Dana and Rose are sisters.  
> Not long ago Dana was a surly teenager, now she's a freshman in college and 
> much easier easier to get along with.  Rose is just turning 13, and she used 
> to be such a nice little girl...
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20dana.html
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20rose.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6
> 
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Re: PESO - Toby

Toby has an interesting face thus making him an interesting subject.  The crop 
here seems a tad tight to my eye, Frank.  But overall a nice picture.  Cheers, 
Christine
(Ok, that was only three sentences.  Just give me a chance to warm up, and I'll 
get this sandwich critique mastered :-)).



On Jul 6, 2012, at 8:50 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Toby is a bike messenger here in Toronto. I think he has a very interesting 
> face. This isn't the sharpest portrait ever, but I rather like it:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you do as well. Comments always appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 
> 
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Re: Too serious and wearing blinders

I like them too, though, I'm not so keen on the darker lit ones, but I like the 
quirkiness, and I agree these photos deglamorize the athletes, which I think a 
good thing.  But some are too low lit for my eye, and as a result, it's hard 
for me to visually *know the subject* because I can't see them clearly.  But 
that said, overall, I think they're all right in a quirky, whimsical way.  
Cheers, Christine



On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Or perhaps just honest. Are we compelled to like them because they were taken 
> by a photographer who is esteemed by critics, and whose work must therefore 
> be high art? I think the shots are just okay. i find some of them clever and 
> nicely lit, but others strike me as trite and simplistic. A couple of them 
> which combine large heads with tiny feet left me wondering why he chose that 
> shooting angle with what appears to be a somewhat wide lens.  And I'm neither 
> serious nor wearing blinders. I'm merely expressing an honest, subjective 
> opinion. 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> ... people who are criticizing on these Olympic athletes' photos:
>> http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/2012/07/05/Pixels-and-piety%3A-Photographing-Olympic-icons
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
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Re: Too serious and wearing blinders