RE: PESO -How many of you remember this

[John Coyle]

Certainly do remember those!  Noisy, but cheap and pretty reliable: I don't 
know whether
they ever did wear through the tyre wall, never happened to me.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219674

This was at a yard sale

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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Walt Gilbert]

Ah-ha!

That is a great suggestion I hadn't even considered, Bob. I'll most 
definitely look into that option and can't believe I hadn't considered 
it before.


Again, thank you for the suggestion!

-- Walt

On 8/1/2012 8:57 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Walt,
It is a nice start, especially the 1st.
Don't look for a 500mm, instead
try a 200mm with an extension tube.
It lets you get very close that way.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty
ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very*
active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable
shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able
to even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

-- Walt

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Peter Jordan]

There may be other reasons not to like iPhoto, but it can be configured not to 
import all photos into the iPhoto folder and play them from their existing 
location.

The option is in the advanced tab of preferences.

Peter

On 2 Aug 2012, at 06:20, Larry Colen  wrote:

> 
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:41 PM, jn289 wrote:
> 
>> How about I photo
> 
> as I said in the original message "I despise iPhoto".
> 
> Seriously.  When I first tried it, my impression was that it was the one of 
> the worst pieces of software that I had ever used.
> 
> Plus, it has the disadvantage, that I've mentioned I want to avoid, of having 
> to import every picture into it to display them.  
> 
> Preview almost does what I want, but it isnt' configurable, and you can't 
> just point it at a directory tree, you have to select all the photos in the 
> directory.
> 
> I think xview was one that I used to use, and one or two with names starting 
> with q and/or g, that did what I need in Linux.
> 
> xee, and xsee are supposed to do what I want, but they don't seem to work.
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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:41 PM, jn289 wrote:

> How about I photo

as I said in the original message "I despise iPhoto".

Seriously.  When I first tried it, my impression was that it was the one of the 
worst pieces of software that I had ever used.

Plus, it has the disadvantage, that I've mentioned I want to avoid, of having 
to import every picture into it to display them.  

Preview almost does what I want, but it isnt' configurable, and you can't just 
point it at a directory tree, you have to select all the photos in the 
directory.

I think xview was one that I used to use, and one or two with names starting 
with q and/or g, that did what I need in Linux.

xee, and xsee are supposed to do what I want, but they don't seem to work.

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[jn289]

How about I photo



On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:35 PM, jn289 wrote:


 Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe


I don't want a slideshow file.  I just want to point the image 
viewer at a directory of photos, or select a bunch of photos and 
have it show them in a slideshow.






 There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd 
like to run a slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook 
pro. I'm not particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of 
works, and I despise iPhoto.
 What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or 
directory tree, of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like 
to be able to set the rate, and choose whether to play in random 
order, or whatever order they're in the directories.


 And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.

 Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image 
viewing programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I 
don't remember their names, and there are, of course, twenty seven 
million or so programs with "image" or "view" in their name under 
Linux.


   Larry

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Re: A Book Review!

[Christine Aguila]

Congrats, Godfrey and nice review Mark!  Cheers, Christien


On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Courtesy of Mark Roberts, my own very first book review ... :-)
> 
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-book-review
> 
> Thanks Mark! 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> Announcing "Ways Together" .. my new photo book!
> See it on Blurb at http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto
> 
> Come to the reception and book-signing:
> ModernBook Gallery
> 49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA
> August 2nd, 5:30-7:30 pm
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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> LR?

But lightroom would mean reading in a bunch of jpegs into a special catalog in 
lightroom.  

Preview almost does what I want, apart from being able to use the second screen 
for something else, being able to set up the period each picture is displayed, 
and being able to choose the order of the pictures.

I found xee, and it almost does what I want, except that it doesn't seem to 
work. At least not the second time I try to run it after rebooting my computer.


> 
> stan
> 
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:35 PM, jn289 wrote:
>> 
>>> Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe
>> 
>> I don't want a slideshow file.  I just want to point the image viewer at a 
>> directory of photos, or select a bunch of photos and have it show them in a 
>> slideshow.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run 
 a slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro. I'm not 
 particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I despise 
 iPhoto. 
 What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or directory 
 tree, of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like to be able to set 
 the rate, and choose whether to play in random order, or whatever order 
 they're in the directories.
 
 And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.
 
 Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image viewing 
 programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't remember their 
 names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million or so programs with 
 "image" or "view" in their name under Linux.
 
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RE: PESOS Cats

[jn289]

Frank, thanks for looking, but what I mean are the fangs so long that 
they show when the cat's mouth is closed. This cat was a stray..Joe






I especially like the first one. So fierce!

And yeah, all cats have those fangs.

I read somewhere that cats may be the most efficient hunters in the 
animal kingdom. And since plants, for the most part, don't hunt I 
guess that means that cats are the most efficient hunters, period.


One look at those teeth and claws and I don't wonder why.

Both very good photos.

Cheers,
 frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." 
-- Christopher Hitchens


--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESOS Cats

Ann, these are for you, and whoever else is a cat person. Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219712 This was shot  March
2012. Shot through the glass pane. This cat was sitting by our back
door. It was very cold out and I guess this cat was looking for a
warm place. My dog would not have agreed. Look at the long fangs ? Do
cats all have long fangs ?


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5951342  This cat was hiding
on my friend's steps. You may have seen this before..

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Stan Halpin]

LR?

stan

On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:35 PM, jn289 wrote:
> 
>> Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe
> 
> I don't want a slideshow file.  I just want to point the image viewer at a 
> directory of photos, or select a bunch of photos and have it show them in a 
> slideshow.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run a 
>>> slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro. I'm not 
>>> particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I despise 
>>> iPhoto. 
>>> What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or directory tree, 
>>> of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like to be able to set the 
>>> rate, and choose whether to play in random order, or whatever order they're 
>>> in the directories.
>>> 
>>> And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.
>>> 
>>> Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image viewing 
>>> programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't remember their 
>>> names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million or so programs with 
>>> "image" or "view" in their name under Linux.
>>> 
>>>  Larry
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PESO -How many of you remember this

[jn289]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219674

This was at a yard sale

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:35 PM, jn289 wrote:

> Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe

I don't want a slideshow file.  I just want to point the image viewer at a 
directory of photos, or select a bunch of photos and have it show them in a 
slideshow.


> 
> 
>> There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run a 
>> slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro. I'm not 
>> particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I despise 
>> iPhoto. 
>> What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or directory tree, 
>> of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like to be able to set the 
>> rate, and choose whether to play in random order, or whatever order they're 
>> in the directories.
>> 
>> And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.
>> 
>> Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image viewing 
>> programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't remember their 
>> names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million or so programs with 
>> "image" or "view" in their name under Linux.
>> 
>>   Larry
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RE: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Terrific shots, but the light in the first one is amazing!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the 
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the 
trusty ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was 
very, *very* active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple 
of presentable shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was 
able to even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

-- Walt

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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[jn289]

I am not saying that  they will do that, but the Lx's were sent in a 
couple of times for the same thing and finally they just replaced 
them. I did send them  right to Colorado.I do not think CRIS was 
around then and also it may have been a little longer than 15 years. 
When the paper went digital, everyone received Nikon D1's after the 
Kodak / Nikon digital bodies we had which were very bad  with flash 
and wrote very slow to the PCMCIA Card. Also there was a Pentax rep 
in my area and he was helpful in many ways. Joe




I don't think Pentax will make a habit of replacing bodies that are 
off warranty. As Ken notes, I was persistent, and there were a 
number of factors that made this somewhat of a special case.CRIS is 
the Pentax repair service. They're on the web at criscam.com.

Paul
On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:43 PM, jn289 wrote:

 Paul, Glad to hear that Pentax will still replace bodies. About 15 
years ago Pentax replaced two of my Lx Bodies at no charge because 
they could not get them fixed in time for me. I told them that I 
needed them because I was working at  a newspaper and did not want 
to use the Nikon stuff that  the paper supplied to the 
photographers, as I had faster glass and more of an assortment. I 
still have the letters that came back with the cameras. They came 
in brand new boxes also.
 But another time they sent me back a Mx body that they could not 
repair with a letter stating the fact.  They have also repaired my 
135 A F1,8 and my 85 A F1.4 and a Super Program.

 Paul, Hope it works ok for you..Joe
 P.S what is CRIS in case I need them ?



 >> Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has 
been languishing at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it 
unavailable. The CRIS folks advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, 
explaining that I shoot for a number of pubs and have a three-day 
dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am loathe to attempt with a 
single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed and hawed about 
how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a loaner. I 
said I would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it 
would take three weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up 
through several levels of Pentax employees to no avail. A few days 
later, while I was out of the office, someone called and said they 
were going to resolve the problem one way or another. I got a name 
but had nothing with which to write it down, so I can't say who it 
was. The number on my phone from which the call came was a Colorado 
area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they told me

 that
 Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a 
new K-5 arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a 
dozen or so movies on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways 
than one.


 Thank you Pentax.

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RE: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I tend to avoid images of violence, but I'm glad I looked at this one.

;-)

Seriously, a lovely, quiet (that's not the word I'm looking for but it will do 
for now) photo. I like it a great deal.

Cheers,
frank 

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--- Original Message ---

From: Rick Womer 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: Pentax List 
Subject: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162877

(Jeez, what does it take to get people to look at a PESO these days?)

Rick


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Re: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives &, Dryers

[Brian Walters]

Quoting John Coyle :

My Maxtor also played up last month, and I too bought a WD MyBook  
replacement!
Fortunately, I don't use any backup software that was mangled by the  
WD software, so the
transfer of data was only painful in that about 10% of the image  
files were showing bad
reads:  I used the old DOS command XCOPY to do the transfer, worked  
very well in the
background.  I was also lucky (or well enough organised!) to have a  
second copy of the
image files so that I was able to replace those that showed bad  
reads - nothing lost in

the long run.
The only issue I have now is that another external HDD now gets lost  
from My Computer
occasionally and has to be remounted every now and then - possibly  
the firmware in the

MyBook is interfering with it, but it's no biggy.




That's started to happen with my 1.5 TB WD external drive.  My laptop  
won't allocate it a drive letter on boot and I have to go into 'Disk  
Management' to allocate a drive letter manually every time I need to  
use it.


Not sure if its an OS issue (Vista) or a problem with the drive.



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


The Maxtor now seems to be Ok, and I will use it for temporary file  
creation where

necessary: can't rely on it for long term storage, of course.


John Coyle
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Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives  
&, Dryers


To all who've responded, thank you for the sympathetic comments.  I  
guess I was correct to
believe that PDMLers would find data backup to be a topic close to  
their own hearts, and

that a saga about it would find interested readers.

Something that I should point out is that the failed drive wasn't  
the WD MyBook 1TB, it

was a Maxtor Basics Desktop 500GB which is about three years old.

The WD MyBook is the unit I hold responsible for shutting down my  
Clickfree Automatic

Backup, thus initiating my descent into backup hell.

I uncased the Maxtor and tested it in a hard drive dock, and  
although spinning and free of
any clicks it was absent from the drive list in 'My Computer'.  Disk  
Management couldn't
find it either.  I took it to a data recovery service for a quote  
(not worth $600 for two
months of uninspired unbacked-up work IMO) who said that many  
Maxtors Basics have a
firmware fault lying dormant within, just waiting for some little  
stimulus like a bad
shutdown to push them over the edge.  The fault prevents them from  
initializing on

startup.  Maxtor users be warned.

This year is the first in my time as a computer user that I've had  
any total hard drive
failures, and now I've had two (the Maxtor and my netbook).  In the  
past one or two of my
drives had developed bad sectors, but remained in service once I'd  
run error detection and

mapped the bad sectors out of use.

regards, Anthony

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[jn289]

Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe


There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like 
to run a slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro. 
I'm not particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, 
and I despise iPhoto. 

What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or 
directory tree, of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like 
to be able to set the rate, and choose whether to play in random 
order, or whatever order they're in the directories.


And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.

Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image 
viewing programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't 
remember their names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million 
or so programs with "image" or "view" in their name under Linux.


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RE: PESOS Cats

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I especially like the first one. So fierce!

And yeah, all cats have those fangs. 

I read somewhere that cats may be the most efficient hunters in the animal 
kingdom. And since plants, for the most part, don't hunt I guess that means 
that cats are the most efficient hunters, period.

One look at those teeth and claws and I don't wonder why.

Both very good photos.

Cheers,
 frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESOS Cats

Ann, these are for you, and whoever else is a cat person. Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219712 This was shot  March 
2012. Shot through the glass pane. This cat was sitting by our back 
door. It was very cold out and I guess this cat was looking for a 
warm place. My dog would not have agreed. Look at the long fangs ? Do 
cats all have long fangs ?


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5951342  This cat was hiding 
on my friend's steps. You may have seen this before..

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mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Larry Colen]

There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run a 
slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro.  
I'm not particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I 
despise iPhoto.  

What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or directory tree, of 
jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like to be able to set the rate, and 
choose whether to play in random order, or whatever order they're in the 
directories.

And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.

Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image viewing 
programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't remember their 
names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million or so programs with 
"image" or "view" in their name under Linux.

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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't think Pentax will make a habit of replacing bodies that are off 
warranty. As Ken notes, I was persistent, and there were a number of factors 
that made this somewhat of a special case.CRIS is the Pentax repair service. 
They're on the web at criscam.com.
Paul
On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:43 PM, jn289 wrote:

> Paul, Glad to hear that Pentax will still replace bodies. About 15 years ago 
> Pentax replaced two of my Lx Bodies at no charge because they could not get 
> them fixed in time for me. I told them that I needed them because I was 
> working at  a newspaper and did not want to use the Nikon stuff that  the 
> paper supplied to the photographers, as I had faster glass and more of an 
> assortment. I still have the letters that came back with the cameras. They 
> came in brand new boxes also.
> But another time they sent me back a Mx body that they could not repair with 
> a letter stating the fact.  They have also repaired my 135 A F1,8 and my 85 A 
> F1.4 and a Super Program.
> Paul, Hope it works ok for you..Joe
> P.S what is CRIS in case I need them ?
> 
> 
> 
>> Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been 
>> languishing at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The 
>> CRIS folks advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot 
>> for a number of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up 
>> that I am loathe to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and 
>> they hemmed and hawed about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program 
>> to get a loaner. I said I would enroll right that minute, but they countered 
>> that it would take three weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up 
>> through several levels of Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, 
>> while I was out of the office, someone called and said they were going to 
>> resolve the problem one way or another. I got a name but had nothing with 
>> which to write it down, so I can't say who it was. The number on my phone 
>> from which the call came was a Colorado area code.. Today, I called CRIS 
>> again, and they told me that
>> Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a new K-5 
>> arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or so movies on 
>> my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one.
>> 
>> Thank you Pentax.
>> 
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Re: PESO - Shopping

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Thanks Dan, Brian and Jack for looking and commenting.

Much appreciated.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Shopping

Attractive subjects, interesting background, sell done indeed.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I took one photo this weekend. This is it.
>
> Feeling very Derbyesque, I guess:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/shopping.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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RE: PESO - Harebell

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Stunning!

cheers,
frank

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From: "AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne" 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO - Harebell

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html

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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[jn289]

Paul, Glad to hear that Pentax will still replace bodies. About 15 
years ago Pentax replaced two of my Lx Bodies at no charge because 
they could not get them fixed in time for me. I told them that I 
needed them because I was working at  a newspaper and did not want to 
use the Nikon stuff that  the paper supplied to the photographers, as 
I had faster glass and more of an assortment. I still have the 
letters that came back with the cameras. They came in brand new boxes 
also.
But another time they sent me back a Mx body that they could not 
repair with a letter stating the fact.  They have also repaired my 
135 A F1,8 and my 85 A F1.4 and a Super Program.

Paul, Hope it works ok for you..Joe
P.S what is CRIS in case I need them ?



Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been 
languishing at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it 
unavailable. The CRIS folks advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, 
explaining that I shoot for a number of pubs and have a three-day 
dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am loathe to attempt with a 
single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed and hawed about 
how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a loaner. I 
said I would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it 
would take three weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up 
through several levels of Pentax employees to no avail. A few days 
later, while I was out of the office, someone called and said they 
were going to resolve the problem one way or another. I got a name 
but had nothing with which to write it down, so I can't say who it 
was. The number on my phone from which the call came was a Colorado 
area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they told me that
 Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a new 
K-5 arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or 
so movies on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one.


Thank you Pentax.

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Re: London Olympics

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A point of clarification: The UK certainly does have a constitution. It is true 
that its constitution is not contained in a single document as in the USA. 
Rather it can be found in numerous statutes, court decisions, royal 
prerogatives, parliamentary convention and treaties.

We've all likely heard of some of the statutes: the Magna Carta, the Act of 
Union and the Bill of Rights come to mind.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: London Olympics

I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about "the rights
of Englishmen"?

The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights
protecting citizens of England were insufficient, but because they
believed that those right were being denied to colonials.  Initially,
at least, they simply wanted to be treated the same as Englishmen back
in the home country were treated.

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On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

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PESOS Cats

[jn289]

Ann, these are for you, and whoever else is a cat person. Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219712 This was shot  March 
2012. Shot through the glass pane. This cat was sitting by our back 
door. It was very cold out and I guess this cat was looking for a 
warm place. My dog would not have agreed. Look at the long fangs ? Do 
cats all have long fangs ?



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5951342  This cat was hiding 
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RE: PESO: Space Walker

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Some amazing balloons at that rally!

Well captured.

Cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
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Subject: PESO: Space Walker

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16195019

Comments are always welcome.

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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

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My apologies, John. 

Quite frankly, since I was watching the thing on network TV the thought never 
occurred to me that the rest of the world wasn't watching with me. I forgot 
about the left coast, not to mention the huge delays that US TV uses so that 
they can broadcast Olympic drama in prime time.

It was a thoughtless moment on my part, one that won't be repeated. If I 
experience an irresistible need to post about an Olympic result in the future 
it will be very clear from the subject line what I'm up to.

I'm sorry I spoiled your time trial. Apologies to anyone else on the list who 
had this event spoiled for them.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Cheers,
frank

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From: John Francis 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT - Rue Brittania


On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:47:14PM +, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

  A serious spoiler for anyone interested in the Olympic cycling event
  with absolutely no warning that this post might contain such a thing.


Why, why, WHY will people insist on posting spoilers to unrelated groups?


I wouldn't go near twitter, facebook, or the like.
But I had hoped that the people here were more considerate
(and intelligent enough to realise that some folks don't get
up at o dark thirty to watch the events live).

If you absolutely can't restrain yourself, please at least  
have the decency to flag the posts with something that gives
a clue to the subject matter!  How is anyone supposed to know
that a post with the title "Rue Brittannia" (sic) has anything
to do with the Olympics?

Grumble, grumble, grumble ...

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Re: July's best of set

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> On 8/1/2012 1:44 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Here are my best from July:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630616628954/
>> 
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> Some really nice shots in there, Larry!
> 
> My personal favorites, in order:
> 
> 50125
> 56676
> 57922

Thanks.

> 
> The first one looks like a really fun event to shoot. Is it an annual event?


The ones through 20120708 were shot at the Portland Blues Experience, which is 
a dance event held in conjunction with the Waterfront Blues Festival.  It has 
been going on for several years, though this is the first year that I made it.


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Re: July's best of set

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Larry, that's a nice collection of photos, Joe


Here are my best from July:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630616628954/


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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

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On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:02:48PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
> John's moaning about Olympics spoilers led me to this highly
> entertaining & thought provoking read:
> Cocktail Crossfire: Do Olympics Spoilers Ruin Everything?

Arthur bruised his upper arm.


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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Bob Sullivan]

Walt,
It is a nice start, especially the 1st.
Don't look for a 500mm, instead
try a 200mm with an extension tube.
It lets you get very close that way.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the
> K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty
> ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very*
> active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable
> shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/
>
> They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able
> to even get the thing in the frame.
>
> Comments/suggestions welcome as always.
>
> -- Walt
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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[John Francis]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:40:43PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
> on 2012-08-01 10:55 John Francis wrote
> >Why, why, WHY will people insist on posting spoilers to unrelated groups?
> 
> most of the world, including Canada iirc, is in real-time, and may
> not be aware of #NBCfail

I presume you are referring to NBC's tape delay?  That's only for the
evening prime-time show, as far as I know.  But the live coverage for
many of the events is at hours which are not PDT-friendly.  In any
case, I can't watch everything in real time - that's why I have TiVos.
The broadcasts may be live, but there are multiple channels of coverage.
Even ignoring some of the streams, there are times when I'm recording
three events at once.

I do avoid threads with the words "Olympics" in them until I'm caught
up for the day (which, often, isn't until midnight, if then). But
even though we are both working from home there are times when either
my wife or I can't watch television, and we seem to be averaging more
than 20 hours of recorded coverage a day.  Much of it will be skipped
over (I'm not a big fan of beach volleyball, or field hockey).


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Re: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

[Bob Sullivan]

Rick,
It's a rather nice photo.
The details in the building are excellent, and
the flower tender gives it a nice center of focus.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162877
>
> (Jeez, what does it take to get people to look at a PESO these days?)
>
> Rick
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Re: PESO - Harebell

[Rick Womer]

Gorgeous!  I really like the way the flower is sharp while other parts are 
motion-blurred; and the color and rendering are lovely.

Rick

 
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http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html

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Re: PESO - Harebell

[Bob Sullivan]

Just beautiful Jostein.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:13 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
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> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html
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RE: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives &, Dryers

[John Coyle]

My Maxtor also played up last month, and I too bought a WD MyBook replacement!
Fortunately, I don't use any backup software that was mangled by the WD 
software, so the
transfer of data was only painful in that about 10% of the image files were 
showing bad
reads:  I used the old DOS command XCOPY to do the transfer, worked very well 
in the
background.  I was also lucky (or well enough organised!) to have a second copy 
of the
image files so that I was able to replace those that showed bad reads - nothing 
lost in
the long run.
The only issue I have now is that another external HDD now gets lost from My 
Computer
occasionally and has to be remounted every now and then - possibly the firmware 
in the
MyBook is interfering with it, but it's no biggy.
The Maxtor now seems to be Ok, and I will use it for temporary file creation 
where
necessary: can't rely on it for long term storage, of course.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives &, Dryers

To all who've responded, thank you for the sympathetic comments.  I guess I was 
correct to
believe that PDMLers would find data backup to be a topic close to their own 
hearts, and
that a saga about it would find interested readers.

Something that I should point out is that the failed drive wasn't the WD MyBook 
1TB, it
was a Maxtor Basics Desktop 500GB which is about three years old.

The WD MyBook is the unit I hold responsible for shutting down my Clickfree 
Automatic
Backup, thus initiating my descent into backup hell.

I uncased the Maxtor and tested it in a hard drive dock, and although spinning 
and free of
any clicks it was absent from the drive list in 'My Computer'.  Disk Management 
couldn't
find it either.  I took it to a data recovery service for a quote (not worth 
$600 for two
months of uninspired unbacked-up work IMO) who said that many Maxtors Basics 
have a
firmware fault lying dormant within, just waiting for some little stimulus like 
a bad
shutdown to push them over the edge.  The fault prevents them from initializing 
on
startup.  Maxtor users be warned.

This year is the first in my time as a computer user that I've had any total 
hard drive
failures, and now I've had two (the Maxtor and my netbook).  In the past one or 
two of my
drives had developed bad sectors, but remained in service once I'd run error 
detection and
mapped the bad sectors out of use.

regards, Anthony

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Re: OT GM heritage

[Peter McIntosh]

Loved it!

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

On 1 August 2012 12:34, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Cool video from seldom seen GM collection ...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=endscreen&=R=1&v=RvVmDsWnMOk
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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Rick Womer]

Nicely written story and nice pix, Paul, as usual.  I'd love to see more of 
that Mercedes.

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Subject: Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

Thanks Ken. Yes, I covered the St. John's concours for the Times. Great show, 
with some fabulous cars. I was, of course, attracted to the odd bits. I did a 
brief review and included nine photos with captions, including then and now 
pics of the Jag and race day and show day pics of the Porsche. But the Times 
auto group is shorthanded this week with everyone on vacation, so they just 
pasted up two pics. The readers complained a bit, so I didn't have to:-). It's 
here:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/head-turners-and-heartstring-tugs-at-the-st-johns-concours/
On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
> 
>> Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star
>> 
>> This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars to 
>> wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes name 
>> came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised to 
>> order a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a 
>> name Mr. Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his 
>> daughter. The star came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm 
>> of the company when Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent the 
>> brand. Looking through an old family album he found a photo of the family 
>> home that had been inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star and an 
>> an inscription that read, "From this house a star shall rise that will bring 
>> great fortune to us and our children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has 
>> paraphrased those words, so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but 
>> according to automotive historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy
 read as indicated above.) 
>> 
>> In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured prominently 
>> on Daimler automobiles. 
>> 
>> This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & Sons, 
>> was purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now resides in 
>> Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it about 
>> 65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
>> 
>> The star and Mercedes:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
>> 
>> Mr. Isquick's Merc:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg
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OT: ebooks

[Mark Roberts]

odd to say, but I created my first book before I ever read an book. Having 
acquired an Android tablet six months ago, I only recently tried downloading an 
book to read on it. Now I'm hooked. project Gutenberg is great: thus far I've 
downloaded books by Conrad, Dickens, Volaire and P.G. Wodehouse. More to come!


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PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

[Rick Womer]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162877

(Jeez, what does it take to get people to look at a PESO these days?)

Rick


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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Anthony Farr]

On 1 August 2012 20:01, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I have a MGB Tourer in the basement. I can't remember if it's half assembled
> or half disassembled. Does that count?
>

I'd suggest it's half assembled.  Presumably it got into the basement
in pieces, not as an entire car.  Unless, that is, your basement has a
remarkably wide and smooth stairway down into it.

regards, Anthony

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Re: London Olympics

[Anthony Farr]

On 2 August 2012 03:21, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of "What is Hockey?",
> take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle.
>

As you rightly say, it "Don't mean nothin'..."  Google is a US based
corporation, and uses American English and American naming
conventions.

regards, Anthony

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Re: A Book Review!

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent. Well deserved.
Paul

On Aug 1, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Courtesy of Mark Roberts, my own very first book review ... :-)
> 
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-book-review
> 
> Thanks Mark! 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> Announcing "Ways Together" .. my new photo book!
> See it on Blurb at http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto
> 
> Come to the reception and book-signing:
> ModernBook Gallery
> 49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA
> August 2nd, 5:30-7:30 pm
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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Ann Sanfedele]

Nice to read happy endings!

ann

On 8/1/2012 14:03, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been languishing 
at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The CRIS folks 
advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot for a number 
of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am loathe 
to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed and hawed 
about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a loaner. I said I 
would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it would take three 
weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up through several levels of 
Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was out of the office, 
someone called and said they were going to resolve the problem one way or 
another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write it down, so I can't 
say who it was. The number on my phone from which the call came was a Colorado 
area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they told me tha

t Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a new K-5 
arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or so movies on my 
old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one.


Thank you Pentax.

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Re: A Book Review!

[Ann Sanfedele]

And his review is spot on, too!

and since you said Thanks, Mark!  (note the !) he will be sure to
see your post. :-)

ann

On 8/1/2012 17:36, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Courtesy of Mark Roberts, my own very first book review ... :-)

   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-book-review

Thanks Mark!

Godfrey

Announcing "Ways Together" .. my new photo book!
See it on Blurb at http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto

Come to the reception and book-signing:
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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Larry Colen]

Here is something from Japan that looks even more fun than an MGB:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iZ0WuNvHr8

Just be careful about smiling while piloting it.


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RE: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Darren Addy
> 
> Darn, that's a sad story John! Why must senseless violence be so
> senseless (not to mention so violent)?
> 
> My MGB Convertible was given to me by my brother-in-law who seemed to
> accumulate cars as barter for doing roofing jobs above and beyond the
> original quote. Whoever had it started their restoration with the
> interior (rather bass-ackwards, if you ask me). The convertible top is
> near new also. The body is pretty straight and it has these ungodly-
> looking whitewall tires on it (rally wheels, not wires). It has the
> "crack of doom" in the top of the driver's door just starting to emerge
> after what looks like an earlier repair.
> 
> I really don't even know what it needs yet. I know it needs a fuel pump
> and I'd want to clean out the gas tank before even trying to crank it.
> Beyond that I'm not sure. I doubt that I'm ever going to do a *full*
> restoration on it, but I would enjoy having it licensed and drivable.
> Our town's annual Cruise Night is a yearly reminder of how it is just
> taking up space in my garage.

the last car I actually owned was an MGB Roadster. Driving it on the open
road on a summer's evening was a wonderful joy, but a joy so rare, and so
costly. Most of my time was spent sitting in traffic jams while the rain
dripped through the so-called roof and even I, Deaf Bob, could hear the rust
eating it like a caterpillar eats a leaf. In the end it would have cost more
to put it right than it would ever be worth, and I simply wasn't getting
that much fun out of it, so I just let the garage keep it for parts.

B


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RE: OT - Rue Brittania

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Darren Addy
> 
> John's moaning about Olympics spoilers led me to this highly
> entertaining & thought provoking read:
> Cocktail Crossfire: Do Olympics Spoilers Ruin Everything?
> http://news.yahoo.com/cocktail-crossfire-olympics-spoilers-ruin-
> everything-210753811.html
> 
> Excerpts:
> "Yet so many of us other humans are falling victim to the alleged
> crimes of the spoiler, enough that The Wall Street Journal published a
> piece on how to avoid spoilers (pro tip: Stay off the Internet) 

Damn, I was looking forward to reading that and finding out for myself. Now
you've gone and spoiled it!

B

> and CNN
> published a piece written by Justin Peters, who's covering the Olympics
> for Slate, called "Confessions of an Olympic Spoiler." He too gives
> tips, like STAY OFF THE INTERNET.
> 
> And here you are, on the Internet. Is it any wonder you're being
> spoiled? But, actually, where we're all spoiled is in expecting this
> world of no spoilers. We created the Internet so that we could know
> what was going on at all times. We expect people to tweet and say
> things. We expect news. Really, we're going to get all upset when that
> actually happens, when we see something we didn't want to?
> 
> There's another factor at work here, and it is that complaining about
> spoilers means that you've put undue importance on one teensy element
> of the athletic events and the talent of those participating. Even if
> you do know who ultimately wins, don't you still want to watch that
> tiny person do backflips across a room to the theme of Phantom of the
> Opera? Don't you still want to watch the human whippets of the world,
> the sprinters, edge each other out breathlessly, so that you're
> breathless too, watching? Or to see the powerful, perfect strokes in
> the water from the perfectly muscled swimmers?
> 
> Saying that knowing who wins and who loses ruins the whole shebang for
> you is like saying you don't want to look at art because you know what
> the painting sold for, or that Van Gogh eventually cut his ear off and
> died. Are you really the type of person who never reads a book twice,
> or more than twice, or who never repeats a movie or TV show to see it
> more fully the second time, or just because you enjoyed it so much the
> first? If you are, well, you probably like surprise parties too. Let me
> tell you: Conclusions are a dime a dozen; what really counts is the
> overall quality of the entire story."
> 
> Of course, I'm someone who hasn't seen a lick of Olympics and probably
> won't before all is said and done. And that includes television/news
> highlights. So my viewpoint might be a tiny bit different than John's.
> : )
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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[Steven Desjardins]

Besides, it's only cycling . . .   :-O

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:40 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> on 2012-08-01 10:55 John Francis wrote
>
>> Why, why, WHY will people insist on posting spoilers to unrelated groups?
>
>
> most of the world, including Canada iirc, is in real-time, and may not be
> aware of #NBCfail
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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[steve harley]

on 2012-08-01 10:55 John Francis wrote

Why, why, WHY will people insist on posting spoilers to unrelated groups?


most of the world, including Canada iirc, is in real-time, and may not be aware 
of #NBCfail



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Re: OT: London Olympics 2012

[Steven Desjardins]

Since John brought it up, I'll use the original hijacked thread to
note today's Google Doodle.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:17 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Of course, hockey - I mean "ice hockey" - is huge here. When I was a kid it 
>> was cold enough that we played organized hockey at outdoor rink with natural 
>> ice. I don't think I played in an arena with artificial ice until my third 
>> season for a playoff game.
>>
>> When we weren't playing organized hockey we played "pickup" games or shinny 
>> (as "scrub" is to baseball) on backyard rinks.
>>
>> I didn't even know there was field hockey or grass hockey until I was about 
>> ten years old. I seem to recall during an Olympic Games (likely Mexico in 
>> '68) hearing them talk of "hockey", and my father explaining that in much of 
>> the world "hockey" (no modifier) was on grass and "ice hockey" was what we 
>> played.
>
> I decided to look up hockey in wikipedia and see which is older and was 
> surprised by the range of games called hockey.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey
>
> Some years back I learned snorkeling in my attempt to play underwater hockey:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_hockey
>
>
>
>>
>> We feel that any game where a backhand shot is illegal, where there's no 
>> bodychecking and where there are no fist fights couldn't possibly be hockey 
>> as we know it. Besides, there were no guys named Jean-Guy, Jacques or Henri. 
>> Whatever they were playing on that big green field wasn't anything we were 
>> familiar with!
>>
>> Mind you this was a time when there were exactly two American players in the 
>> entire National Hockey League; all the rest were Canadian. It would be 
>> another fifteen years before the first Europeans came here to play in the 
>> premier professional league in the world. And when the first Russians came 
>> here they had to defect, just like ballet dancers.
>>
>> With ice hockey so popular outside our borders these days, it's easy to 
>> forget that up to a couple of decades ago it really was a largely North 
>> American thing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>> From: Anthony Farr 
>> Sent: July 29, 2012 7/29/12
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: OT: London Olympics 2012
>>
>> On 30 July 2012 11:21, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>> You're probably right that field hockey is a much bigger sport in the
>>> third world and girl's prep schools.  I was thinking mostly of North
>>> America, Europe and Russia.
>>
>> Well obviously a nation needs to be reasonably affluent to support a
>> sport that is alien to its its climate, which requires artificial
>> rinks with powerful refrigeration to overcome relatively high ambient
>> temperatures even in winter.  But you call many of these nations
>> "third world" at the risk of being labeled a cultural imperialist.
>>
>> Hockey is massive in the Asian sub-continent, and is strongly
>> entrenched in Western Europe.  Naturally, ice hockey is more strongly
>> followed in Northern and Eastern Europe and North America, where the
>> culture of snow and ice sports is strongest, and barely represented in
>> Central Africa, Equatorial America and South East Asia where there is
>> practically no culture of winter at all.  But the people who follow
>> these sports are equal citizens of the world, and are due absolutely
>> no more or less consideration or respect because of their homelands'
>> place in the world or the hue of their flesh.  Shame on anyone who
>> would think otherwise.
>>
>> regards, Anthony
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A Book Review!

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Courtesy of Mark Roberts, my own very first book review ... :-)

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-book-review

Thanks Mark! 

Godfrey

Announcing "Ways Together" .. my new photo book!
See it on Blurb at http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto

Come to the reception and book-signing:
ModernBook Gallery
49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA
August 2nd, 5:30-7:30 pm


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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[John Sessoms]

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

Sheesh! What is it about Pentaxians and MGs? I've got a 1979 MGB
convertible under wraps in the garage, tormenting me for funds to whip
it into drivable condition.


Moderately frightening .. I had an MGB too. 1965 model year. Frankly,
I hated it although it was nice to drive. When it ran.

In my lifetime, I've built three cars and four motorcycles from the
ground up. I think my junkie status is well assured at this point, and
I never intend to do it again. I bought the SLK specifically so I
don't have to ... It has everything I ever wanted in a car just as it
came from Mercedes.

But of course, I didn't buy it new so I have the joy of detailing it
out anyway. (I'm pretty much done now ... :-)


A long time ago in another lifetime (before I got married) I had the 
dubious pleasure of owning a 1938 Harley-Davidson. It was a ragged-ass 
collection of greasy worn out parts in several large cardboard cartons 
when I bought it, and it was a ragged-ass, greasy, worn out piece of oil 
leaking shit when I sold it.


Paid $400 for it, owned it 2 years, actually had it running for about 6 
months. Sold it for $400 and was happy not to lose any money on the 
deal. Completely stock, because the only customization I could afford to 
do in those days was to buy a couple of cans of gold metal-flake & 
candy-apple red clear lacquer to paint the tank.


Should have kept the bike and ditched the girlfriend & future ex-wife.

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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Darren Addy]

Darn, that's a sad story John! Why must senseless violence be so
senseless (not to mention so violent)?

My MGB Convertible was given to me by my brother-in-law who seemed to
accumulate cars as barter for doing roofing jobs above and beyond the
original quote. Whoever had it started their restoration with the
interior (rather bass-ackwards, if you ask me). The convertible top is
near new also. The body is pretty straight and it has these
ungodly-looking whitewall tires on it (rally wheels, not wires). It
has the "crack of doom" in the top of the driver's door just starting
to emerge after what looks like an earlier repair.

I really don't even know what it needs yet. I know it needs a fuel
pump and I'd want to clean out the gas tank before even trying to
crank it. Beyond that I'm not sure. I doubt that I'm ever going to do
a *full* restoration on it, but I would enjoy having it licensed and
drivable. Our town's annual Cruise Night is a yearly reminder of how
it is just taking up space in my garage.

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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[Darren Addy]

John's moaning about Olympics spoilers led me to this highly
entertaining & thought provoking read:
Cocktail Crossfire: Do Olympics Spoilers Ruin Everything?
http://news.yahoo.com/cocktail-crossfire-olympics-spoilers-ruin-everything-210753811.html

Excerpts:
"Yet so many of us other humans are falling victim to the alleged
crimes of the spoiler, enough that The Wall Street Journal published a
piece on how to avoid spoilers (pro tip: Stay off the Internet) and
CNN published a piece written by Justin Peters, who's covering the
Olympics for Slate, called "Confessions of an Olympic Spoiler." He too
gives tips, like STAY OFF THE INTERNET.

And here you are, on the Internet. Is it any wonder you're being
spoiled? But, actually, where we're all spoiled is in expecting this
world of no spoilers. We created the Internet so that we could know
what was going on at all times. We expect people to tweet and say
things. We expect news. Really, we're going to get all upset when that
actually happens, when we see something we didn't want to?

There's another factor at work here, and it is that complaining about
spoilers means that you've put undue importance on one teensy element
of the athletic events and the talent of those participating. Even if
you do know who ultimately wins, don't you still want to watch that
tiny person do backflips across a room to the theme of Phantom of the
Opera? Don't you still want to watch the human whippets of the world,
the sprinters, edge each other out breathlessly, so that you're
breathless too, watching? Or to see the powerful, perfect strokes in
the water from the perfectly muscled swimmers?

Saying that knowing who wins and who loses ruins the whole shebang for
you is like saying you don't want to look at art because you know what
the painting sold for, or that Van Gogh eventually cut his ear off and
died. Are you really the type of person who never reads a book twice,
or more than twice, or who never repeats a movie or TV show to see it
more fully the second time, or just because you enjoyed it so much the
first? If you are, well, you probably like surprise parties too. Let
me tell you: Conclusions are a dime a dozen; what really counts is the
overall quality of the entire story."

Of course, I'm someone who hasn't seen a lick of Olympics and probably
won't before all is said and done. And that includes television/news
highlights. So my viewpoint might be a tiny bit different than John's.
: )

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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[John Sessoms]

From: Darren Addy


Sheesh! What is it about Pentaxians and MGs? I've got a 1979 MGB
convertible under wraps in the garage, tormenting me for funds to whip
it into drivable condition.



The one in the basement is a 1978, and was drivable until a bunch of 
high-school kids vandalized it. I live in a fairly quiet residential 
neighborhood. I always kept it in the back of the driveway, but ONE 
NIGHT, I needed to park a truck there, and moved the MG out to the street.


Four kids with a baseball bat did $200,000 damage in a little over an 
hour. They mostly hit high dollar vehicles, which my MGB definitely 
wasn't. About $3,000 of the damage is to my MGB.


One of them lived two blocks away around the corner from my house, and 
that's where they started their spree from. Mine was the first vehicle 
they attacked.


Basically what it needs is a new windshield, new driver's window and a 
complete interior. I can't get the shards of broken glass out of the 
upholstery & carpeting.


I have another tourer, 1979, sitting out at my brother's house. I 
originally bought it for parts the first time I was rebuilding the 78.


But when I got it towed home, it just too complete to part out. The 
engine needs rebuilt, it needs a new cylinder head (they crack between 2 
& 3 because of improper torquing) and it's missing the master 
cylinder/brake booster.


All of the parts I need are available from Victoria British/Roadster 
Factory/Moss Motors if I just had the time, MONEY & energy. I guess I 
got the time now.


The only part I ever had a problem getting from them was the smog pump, 
and believe it or not, Lucas licensed the design to Toyota, who used it 
throughout the 80s. All you have to do to get a rebuilt Toyota unit from 
AutoZone to work is shift the mounting bracket 90 degrees (remove 4 
nuts, shift & reinstall).


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Re: London Olympics

[steve harley]

on 2012-07-31 16:50 AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote

I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here as offering 
no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, by some apparently 
magical consensus, to be a "public person". Seems no less worthy of a medal to 
me.


it's not that simple: in the US, an action against a defamer of a public figure 
must show "actual malice"




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Re: PESO - Tending the Flowers

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Don!

Only 30 views so far--maybe I should have used a snappier title.

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie 
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: PESO - Tending the Flowers

Rick good job of capturing the atmosphere in a big building contrasted 
with a little human interest.





> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:18:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rick Womer 
> To: Pentax List 
> Subject: PESO - Tending the Flowers
> Message-ID:
>     <1343780322.44457.yahoomail...@web162106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Inside Chester Cathedral:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162877
>
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>
> Comments always appreciated.
>
> Rick

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RE: OT - Rue Brittania

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> Olympics: Individual men's time trial. Wiggins gold, bronze to Froome.
> 
> Congrats on a great day on the road!
> 

and if all that wasn't enough, I equalled my PB on the commute to work this
morning. Thanks to Transport for London who've scared all the cars off the
road and rephased all the lights for the Olympics! And they've made my
commute a longer distance by re-routing the one-way system through
Greenwich.

B


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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[kwaller]

Enjoyed the write up also Paul!

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star


Thanks Ken. Yes, I covered the St. John's concours for the Times. Great 
show, with some fabulous cars. I was, of course, attracted to the odd 
bits. I did a brief review and included nine photos with captions, 
including then and now pics of the Jag and race day and show day pics of 
the Porsche. But the Times auto group is shorthanded this week with 
everyone on vacation, so they just pasted up two pics. The readers 
complained a bit, so I didn't have to:-). It's here:

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/head-turners-and-heartstring-tugs-at-the-st-johns-concours/
On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?

-Original Message-

From: Paul Stenquist 



Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars 
to wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes 
name came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek 
promised to order a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them 
Mercedes, a name Mr. Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, 
including his daughter. The star came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, 
who took the helm of the company when Gottlieb died, was searching for a 
logo to represent the brand. Looking through an old family album he 
found a photo of the family home that had been inscribed by his father 
with a three-pointed star and an an inscription that read, "From this 
house a star shall rise that will bring great fortune to us and our 
children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has paraphrased those words, so 
old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but according to automotive 
historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy read as indicated 
above.)


In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured 
prominently on Daimler automobiles.


This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & 
Sons, was purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now 
resides in Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have 
driven it about 65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old 
brass-era machine.


The star and Mercedes:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452

Mr. Isquick's Merc:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg



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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[kwaller]

I take it more as persistence on the part of Paul.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Walker" 

Subject: Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe



Awesome news, Paul! We can only hope that this is a sign of change
within Pentax and not just an isolated bit of luck.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:
Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been 
languishing at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. 
The CRIS folks advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I 
shoot for a number of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment 
coming up that I am loathe to attempt with a single body. I begged for a 
loaner, and they hemmed and hawed about how one had to be enrolled in 
their pro program to get a loaner. I said I would enroll right that 
minute, but they countered that it would take three weeks to approve my 
application. I worked my way up through several levels of Pentax 
employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was out of the office, 
someone called and said they were going to resolve the problem one way or 
another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write it down, so I 
can't say who it was. The number on my phone from which the call came was 
a Colorado area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they told me that 
Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a new K-5 
arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or so movies 
on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one.


Thank you Pentax.

Paul
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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Larry Colen]

Congratulations, and that is good to hear.

It's very similar to what happened to me a few years back with my K20 that was 
sent in for repair, came back with a couple of problems, went back to Pentax 
(pre-CRIS), and languished in their repair department for far too long. They 
eventually sent me a new camera.

   Larry

On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been languishing 
> at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The CRIS folks 
> advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot for a number 
> of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am 
> loathe to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed 
> and hawed about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a 
> loaner. I said I would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it 
> would take three weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up through 
> several levels of Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was 
> out of the office, someone called and said they were going to resolve the 
> problem one way or another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write 
> it down, so I can't say who it was. The number on my phone from which the 
> call came was a Colorado area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they 
> told m
> e that Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a new K-5 
> arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or so movies on 
> my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one. 
> 
> Thank you Pentax. 
> 
> Paul
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Re: PESO - Simon's kayak

[Paul Stenquist]

What Boris said. I missed this earlier, so I'm pleased that I caught it before 
it scrolled away. A superb photo.
Paul
On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Wonderful photograph and a lovely story.
> 
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> On August 1, 2012 12:04:45 AM AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne  
> wrote:
>> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/07/simons-kayak.html
>> 
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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Boris Liberman]

Great news, Paul. It is good to know that your gear is up and running 
at full speed.



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On August 1, 2012 9:03:05 PM Paul Stenquist  wrote:
Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been 
languishing at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. 
The CRIS folks advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that 
I shoot for a number of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk 
assignment coming up that I am loathe to attempt with a single body. I 
begged for a loaner, and they hemmed and hawed about how one had to be 
enrolled in their pro program to get a loaner. I said I would enroll 
right that minute, but they countered that it would take three weeks to 
approve my application. I worked my way up through several levels of 
Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was out of the 
office, someone called and said they were going to resolve the problem 
one way or another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write it 
down, so I can't say who it was. The number on my phone from which the 
call came was a Colorado area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and 
they told me that Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour 
later, a new K-5 arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a 
dozen or so movies on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one.


Thank you Pentax.

Paul
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More on the pro-40 flash

[Larry Colen]

The good news is I heard back from profoto and got the info I need to buy a new 
modeling bulb.

They even sent me a copy of a pdf of a manual that should tell me how to remove 
the glass cover:
I've posted a copy of the manual here:
http://red4est.com/lrc/temp/pro-5.pdf

Unfortunately it seems that the "glass bulb" is actually the flash bulb 
assembly, and despite the pro-5 manual referring to locking pins for it, they 
are not visible or accessible on the pro-40.

I've got some pictures here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630857713502/

Email from profoto:

Begin forwarded message:

> From: info macgroup 
> Date: August 1, 2012 10:49:24 AM PDT
> To: Larry Colen 
> Subject: RE: Profoto Customer Service Inquiry
> 
> Larry:
> 
> We do not have much information on the Pro 40, but this should help.
> 
> The bulb's catalog number was #10 20 06.  This number is no longer available, 
> but any 150 Watt, 120 Volt halogen bulb with an "E-11" (mini-can) base will 
> work.  Something should be available from a good electrical supply outlet.
> 
> The glass cover on the Pro 40 is removed the same way the Pro 5's cover is 
> removed.  (see attached instructions for Pro 5)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Colen [mailto:l...@red4est.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:13 AM
> To: info macgroup
> Subject: Profoto Customer Service Inquiry
> 
> I recently acquired a pair of profoto pro-40 studio strobes.  Unfortunately, 
> they did not come with a manual.
> 
> One of them, which I believe is S/N 90927 seems to have a blown modeling lamp.
> 
> 1) how can I obtain a replacement modeling bulb?
> 
> 2) The modeling bulb and flash bulb are under a glass dome with no obvious 
> way of removing it.  How do I get the glass dome off, so that I can replace 
> the bulbs if and when I need?
> 
> Thank you,
>   Larry
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: PESO - Harebell

[Boris Liberman]

Very delicate, this one.


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On August 1, 2012 5:13:27 PM AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne  wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html

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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Walt Gilbert]

Thank you, Bob & Bruce.

The sun was still pretty high in the sky at the time, so I just kind of 
positioned myself where the light would be good and waited for the 
butterfly to pick a good blossom. I've found that chasing them around 
tends to produce a lot of junk. Of course, it helped that there weren't 
many other flowers in the immediate vicinity to pull draw it away from me.


More than anything, though, I learned how much I desperately need a 500/4.

Thanks again!

-- Walt

On 8/1/2012 2:30 PM, Bob W wrote:

I agree - both really beautiful, but the light on the first is outstanding.

B


-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Bruce Walker

Walt, I think that first one is really good. I love the colour and
light here, so a bit of blur be damned. :-)

Almost all my butterfly shots are ruined by subject being in open glare
sun. Or else he's hiding in shade too deep to get anything.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Walt Gilbert 
wrote:

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the
trusty ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it

was

very, *very* active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a

couple

of presentable shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I
was able to even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.






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Re: PESO - Simon's kayak

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Wonderful photograph and a lovely story.


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http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/07/simons-kayak.html

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RE: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Bob W]

I agree - both really beautiful, but the light on the first is outstanding.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Bruce Walker
> 
> Walt, I think that first one is really good. I love the colour and
> light here, so a bit of blur be damned. :-)
> 
> Almost all my butterfly shots are ruined by subject being in open glare
> sun. Or else he's hiding in shade too deep to get anything.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Walt Gilbert 
> wrote:
> > I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the
> > K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the
> > trusty ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it
> was
> > very, *very* active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a
> couple
> > of presentable shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:
> >
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/
> >
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/
> >
> > They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I
> > was able to even get the thing in the frame.
> >
> > Comments/suggestions welcome as always.



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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Bruce Walker]

Walt, I think that first one is really good. I love the colour and
light here, so a bit of blur be damned. :-)

Almost all my butterfly shots are ruined by subject being in open
glare sun. Or else he's hiding in shade too deep to get anything.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the
> K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty
> ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very*
> active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable
> shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/
>
> They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able
> to even get the thing in the frame.
>
> Comments/suggestions welcome as always.
>
> -- Walt
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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't think I'll be getting it back and haven't asked. I wouldn't be 
surprised if it became a loaner in the pro assistance program. The repair 
charge was going to be $135. I'll have to keep an eye out and see if my credit 
card is charged. Either way, I'm good.

Paul
On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> GREAT! Now, will your "old" camera be repaired and sent to you (with a bill)? 
> Would be nice to have two 5's and a 7. :-)
> 
> Jack Davis
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> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Stenquist 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:03 AM
> Subject: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe
> 
> Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been languishing 
> at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The CRIS folks 
> advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot for a number 
> of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am 
> loathe to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed 
> and hawed about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a 
> loaner. I said I would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it 
> would take three weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up through 
> several levels of Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was 
> out of the office, someone called and said they were going to resolve the 
> problem one way or another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write 
> it down, so I can't say who it was. The number on my phone from which the 
> call came was a Colorado area code.. Today, I called CRIS
> again, and they told me that Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an 
> hour later, a new K-5 arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a 
> dozen or so movies on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one. 
> 
> Thank you Pentax. 
> 
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PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Walt Gilbert]

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the 
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the 
trusty ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was 
very, *very* active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple 
of presentable shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was 
able to even get the thing in the frame.


Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

-- Walt

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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Jack Davis]

GREAT! Now, will your "old" camera be repaired and sent to you (with a bill)? 
Would be nice to have two 5's and a 7. :-)

Jack Davis
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- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:03 AM
Subject: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been languishing 
at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The CRIS folks 
advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot for a number 
of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am loathe 
to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed and hawed 
about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a loaner. I said I 
would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it would take three 
weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up through several levels of 
Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was out of the office, 
someone called and said they were going to resolve the problem one way or 
another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write it down, so I can't 
say who it was. The number on my phone from which the call came was a Colorado 
area code.. Today, I called CRIS
 again, and they told me that Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an 
hour later, a new K-5 arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a 
dozen or so movies on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one. 

Thank you Pentax. 

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Re: A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Bruce Walker]

Awesome news, Paul! We can only hope that this is a sign of change
within Pentax and not just an isolated bit of luck.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been languishing 
> at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The CRIS folks 
> advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot for a number 
> of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am 
> loathe to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed 
> and hawed about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a 
> loaner. I said I would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it 
> would take three weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up through 
> several levels of Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was 
> out of the office, someone called and said they were going to resolve the 
> problem one way or another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write 
> it down, so I can't say who it was. The number on my phone from which the 
> call came was a Colorado area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they 
> told me that Pentax was sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a 
> new K-5 arrived at my front door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or so 
> movies on my old one, this is a blessing in more ways than one.
>
> Thank you Pentax.
>
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Re: PESO - Harebell

[Bruce Walker]

That's quite gorgeous, Jostein. The slight blurring helps to emphasize
the delicately veined flower in an abstract field of pastels. Very
painterly, and I mean that non-ironically. :-)


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> http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html
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Re: OT - Rue Brittania wise guys.

[Don Guthrie]

Speaking of wise guys or in this case speakeasy, Al Capone's niece was 
in Iowa sampling Templeton's Rye yesterday. It is reputed the current 
whiskey is based on what was sold by Iowa farmers to Al during 
prohibition. To paraphrase the niece Al liked to drink good whiskey not 
the "rotgut" other people sold.






Message: 10
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:51:52 -0400
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List , Ann Sanfedele

Subject: Re: OT - Rue Brittania
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Just for Ann's benefit, is some circles, a "wise guy" is a lieutenant
in an organized crime family.
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A happy ending to my K-5 tale of woe

[Paul Stenquist]

Some of you may recall my bemoaning the fact that my K-5 has been languishing 
at CRIS, with the parts necessary to repair it unavailable. The CRIS folks 
advised me to talk to Pentax, and I did, explaining that I shoot for a number 
of pubs and have a three-day dawn-to-dusk assignment coming up that I am loathe 
to attempt with a single body. I begged for a loaner, and they hemmed and hawed 
about how one had to be enrolled in their pro program to get a loaner. I said I 
would enroll right that minute, but they countered that it would take three 
weeks to approve my application. I worked my way up through several levels of 
Pentax employees to no avail. A few days later, while I was out of the office, 
someone called and said they were going to resolve the problem one way or 
another. I got a name but had nothing with which to write it down, so I can't 
say who it was. The number on my phone from which the call came was a Colorado 
area code.. Today, I called CRIS again, and they told me that Pentax was 
sending a replacement camera. Half an hour later, a new K-5 arrived at my front 
door. Witth 35,000 exposures and a dozen or so movies on my old one, this is a 
blessing in more ways than one. 

Thank you Pentax. 

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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Bruce Walker]

Great shots and fascinating article, Paul. Appreciated the additional
illumination in your original post too.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken. Yes, I covered the St. John's concours for the Times. Great
> show, with some fabulous cars. I was, of course, attracted to the odd bits.
> I did a brief review and included nine photos with captions, including then
> and now pics of the Jag and race day and show day pics of the Porsche. But
> the Times auto group is shorthanded this week with everyone on vacation, so
> they just pasted up two pics. The readers complained a bit, so I didn't have
> to:-). It's here:
>
> http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/head-turners-and-heartstring-tugs-at-the-st-johns-concours/
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> > Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >> From: Paul Stenquist 
> >
> >> Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star
> >>
> >> This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler
> >> cars to wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The 
> >> Mercedes
> >> name came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised 
> >> to
> >> order a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a
> >> name Mr. Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his
> >> daughter. The star came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm
> >> of the company when Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent 
> >> the
> >> brand. Looking through an old family album he found a photo of the family
> >> home that had been inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star and an
> >> an inscription that read, "From this house a star shall rise that will 
> >> bring
> >> great fortune to us and our children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has
> >> paraphrased those words, so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but
> >> according to automotive historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy 
> >> read
> >> as indicated above.)
> >>
> >> In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured
> >> prominently on Daimler automobiles.
> >>
> >> This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne &
> >> Sons, was purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now 
> >> resides
> >> in Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it
> >> about 65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
> >>
> >> The star and Mercedes:
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
> >>
> >> Mr. Isquick's Merc:
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg
> >
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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[lrc]

Both Pentax an MG are brands that hardly anyone knows today, but which pretty 
much defined the market for low cost performance 45 or 50 years ago.

Darren Addy  wrote:

>Sheesh! What is it about Pentaxians and MGs? I've got a 1979 MGB
>convertible under wraps in the garage, tormenting me for funds to whip
>it into drivable condition.
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re: PESO: Space Walker

[Don Guthrie]

SO was there a prize for the most imaginative balloon? That flag in the 
background looks like the world's biggest box kite. Fun stuff.





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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16195019

Comments are always welcome.

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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Paul Stenquist]

I agree. Gottlieb's words, as translated from German by the very accurate and 
well-respected Ms. Kimes, were heartwarming, in my opinion, and I tried to sell 
M-B on using them in a commercial during my tenure on that account, but to no 
avail. On the Mercedes website, they have at long last acknowledged the origin 
of the star and rewrite its history blandly: "...he had marked a star above his 
own house on a picture postcard of Cologne and Deutz, and had written to his 
wife that this star would one day shine over his own factory to symbolize 
prosperity." 

Paul


On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Lovely old beasts.
> 
> Um, I don't know that ""From this house a star shall rise that will
> bring great fortune to us and our children" sounds all that greedy.
> Seems a fairly innocuous exclamation from a hopeful inventor trying to
> impress his young bride and get him to forgive the long weekends in
> the shed and the greasy hoofprints on the kitchen floor... ;-)
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:
>> Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> 
>>> Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star
>>> 
>>> This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars to 
>>> wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes name 
>>> came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised to 
>>> order a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a 
>>> name Mr. Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his 
>>> daughter. The star came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm 
>>> of the company when Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent 
>>> the brand. Looking through an old family album he found a photo of the 
>>> family home that had been inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star 
>>> and an an inscription that read, "From this house a star shall rise that 
>>> will bring great fortune to us and our children." (In its current pubs, 
>>> Daimler has paraphrased those words, so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so 
>>> greedy, but according to automotive historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the 
>>> original copy read as indicated above.)
>>> 
>>> In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured prominently 
>>> on Daimler automobiles.
>>> 
>>> This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & Sons, 
>>> was purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now resides in 
>>> Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it 
>>> about 65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
>>> 
>>> The star and Mercedes:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
>>> 
>>> Mr. Isquick's Merc:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg
>> 
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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ken. Yes, I covered the St. John's concours for the Times. Great show, 
with some fabulous cars. I was, of course, attracted to the odd bits. I did a 
brief review and included nine photos with captions, including then and now 
pics of the Jag and race day and show day pics of the Porsche. But the Times 
auto group is shorthanded this week with everyone on vacation, so they just 
pasted up two pics. The readers complained a bit, so I didn't have to:-). It's 
here:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/head-turners-and-heartstring-tugs-at-the-st-johns-concours/
On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
> 
>> Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star
>> 
>> This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars to 
>> wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes name 
>> came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised to 
>> order a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a 
>> name Mr. Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his 
>> daughter. The star came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm 
>> of the company when Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent the 
>> brand. Looking through an old family album he found a photo of the family 
>> home that had been inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star and an 
>> an inscription that read, "From this house a star shall rise that will bring 
>> great fortune to us and our children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has 
>> paraphrased those words, so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but 
>> according to automotive historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy read 
>> as indicated above.) 
>> 
>> In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured prominently 
>> on Daimler automobiles. 
>> 
>> This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & Sons, 
>> was purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now resides in 
>> Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it about 
>> 65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
>> 
>> The star and Mercedes:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
>> 
>> Mr. Isquick's Merc:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg
> 
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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Lovely old beasts.

Um, I don't know that ""From this house a star shall rise that will
bring great fortune to us and our children" sounds all that greedy.
Seems a fairly innocuous exclamation from a hopeful inventor trying to
impress his young bride and get him to forgive the long weekends in
the shed and the greasy hoofprints on the kitchen floor... ;-)

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:
> Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Paul Stenquist 
>
>>Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star
>>
>>This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars to 
>>wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes name 
>>came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised to order 
>>a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a name Mr. 
>>Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his daughter. The star 
>>came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm of the company when 
>>Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent the brand. Looking 
>>through an old family album he found a photo of the family home that had been 
>>inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star and an an inscription that 
>>read, "From this house a star shall rise that will bring great fortune to us 
>>and our children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has paraphrased those words, 
>>so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but according to automotive 
>>historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy read as indicated above.)
>>
>>In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured prominently on 
>>Daimler automobiles.
>>
>>This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & Sons, was 
>>purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now resides in 
>>Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it about 
>>65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
>>
>>The star and Mercedes:
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
>>
>>Mr. Isquick's Merc:
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg
>
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Re: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives, &, Dryers

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I have a stack of old failed IDE hard-drives waiting to go to the crusher.
> Wake County (where I live) has a collection point that takes old computer
> hardware & includes secure destruction for old hard-drives. This discussion
> prompted me to take a look at them.
>
> Sure enough, all of them are Western Digital.
>
> Plus, now I won't be able to rest until I've pulled out all of my older USB
> drives and exercised them, just to make sure none of them has failed since I
> last used them.
>
> I've already found that I misplaced one of the power (mains) cords.
> Fortunately the cord from my D-BC50 battery charger fits.

I went on a round of that stuff about two months ago, when my partner
asked if I had a small, spare drive that I could afford to give away.
After emptying the cabinet and finding I had 27 hard drives (!) with
capacities from 40G to 320G sitting untouched for at least two years,
I plugged in each one in turn to see if it would boot up. Every single
one of them did. (To keep from losing or mixing up power cords, I tag
and bag them, tagging the drives they go with identically. Happily, I
was sensible when buying all those drives: there are just four types
of power supplies that can interchange across all the drives.)

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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Sheesh! What is it about Pentaxians and MGs? I've got a 1979 MGB
> convertible under wraps in the garage, tormenting me for funds to whip
> it into drivable condition.

Moderately frightening .. I had an MGB too. 1965 model year. Frankly,
I hated it although it was nice to drive. When it ran.

In my lifetime, I've built three cars and four motorcycles from the
ground up. I think my junkie status is well assured at this point, and
I never intend to do it again. I bought the SLK specifically so I
don't have to ... It has everything I ever wanted in a car just as it
came from Mercedes.

But of course, I didn't buy it new so I have the joy of detailing it
out anyway. (I'm pretty much done now ... :-)

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Re: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives, &, Dryers

[John Sessoms]

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


My experience with WD drives is not great either. But not the drives
themselves, the enclosures. Once I ditched the 2T RAID case and moved
the drives into a third party RAID case, they became completely
reliable.

I don't know what crapware comes on any drive. Any drive I buy I
immediately reformat without looking at what's on it. I have
everything I need to manage drives built into OS X, don't want any of
that junk.



I have a stack of old failed IDE hard-drives waiting to go to the 
crusher. Wake County (where I live) has a collection point that takes 
old computer hardware & includes secure destruction for old hard-drives. 
This discussion prompted me to take a look at them.


Sure enough, all of them are Western Digital.

Plus, now I won't be able to rest until I've pulled out all of my older 
USB drives and exercised them, just to make sure none of them has failed 
since I last used them.


I've already found that I misplaced one of the power (mains) cords. 
Fortunately the cord from my D-BC50 battery charger fits.


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RE: London Olympics

[John Sessoms]

Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of "What is 
Hockey?", take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle.


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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Darren Addy]

Sheesh! What is it about Pentaxians and MGs? I've got a 1979 MGB
convertible under wraps in the garage, tormenting me for funds to whip
it into drivable condition.

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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:01 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> I have a MGB Tourer in the basement. I can't remember if it's half assembled 
> or half disassembled. Does that count?

As someone with an MGBGT in the garage, a brand new motor sitting on the floor 
next to it, and a supercharger for said motor in the shed under the garage, I 
don't know whether I'm in a perfect position to comment, or should recuse 
myself from judging.

http://red4est.com/jasmine


> 
> From: lrc
> 
>> If you aren't building them yourself, you aren't a car junkie.
>> 
>> Walter Hamler  wrote:
>> 
>>> I bought my wife a new car; one year ago I bought one for me.  I am
>>> like a kid in a toy store!!
>>> 
>>> Walt
> 
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Re: July's best of set

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Great set!  My favorite is LRC56621, because the exposure really
> brings out the detail in the surface of the moon, and because of the
> surprise cause by the tuck and the car lights just below the moon.

Thanks Dan.

It never occurred to me that the cars on the bridge would be a surprise, but 
then I was there watching the moon rise behind the overpass.


> 
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> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> Here are my best from July:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630616628954/
>> 
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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Kenneth Waller]

Nice captures Paul. these were captured @ St Johns Sunday?

-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 

>Subject: Ms. Jelenik and a Star
>
>This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars to 
>wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes name came 
>about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised to order a 
>large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a name Mr. 
>Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his daughter. The star 
>came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm of the company when 
>Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent the brand. Looking 
>through an old family album he found a photo of the family home that had been 
>inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star and an an inscription that 
>read, "From this house a star shall rise that will bring great fortune to us 
>and our children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has paraphrased those words, 
>so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but according to automotive 
>historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy read as indicated above.) 
>
>In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured prominently on 
>Daimler automobiles. 
>
>This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & Sons, was 
>purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now resides in 
>Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it about 
>65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
>
>The star and Mercedes:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
>
>Mr. Isquick's Merc:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg


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Re: PESO - Harebell

[Kenneth Waller]

Well seen & captured even with the little bit of movement captured, I think the 
colors, subject &composition overcome that.

-Original Message-
>From: AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne 

>Subject: PESO - Harebell
>
>http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html
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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[John Francis]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:47:14PM +, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

  A serious spoiler for anyone interested in the Olympic cycling event
  with absolutely no warning that this post might contain such a thing.


Why, why, WHY will people insist on posting spoilers to unrelated groups?


I wouldn't go near twitter, facebook, or the like.
But I had hoped that the people here were more considerate
(and intelligent enough to realise that some folks don't get
up at o dark thirty to watch the events live).

If you absolutely can't restrain yourself, please at least  
have the decency to flag the posts with something that gives
a clue to the subject matter!  How is anyone supposed to know
that a post with the title "Rue Brittannia" (sic) has anything
to do with the Olympics?

Grumble, grumble, grumble ...

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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[Ann Sanfedele]

And I know i have some cheek pointing out someone elses typos! har!
Dan is right - wise ass not wise guy - still possible - you should have 
taken credit it for it ;-)


a

On 8/1/2012 12:47, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

'T'was a typo in a hastily composed post made on my android between calls on a 
busy day.

That being said, I blame my proofreaders and editors. I should have been wary 
when I heard they are from Stouffeville.

;-)

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT - Rue Brittania

perhaps you meant um RULE? or were you being a wise guy?
ann

On 8/1/2012 11:47, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Olympics: Individual men's time trial. Wiggins gold, bronze to Froome.

Congrats on a great day on the road!

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Just for Ann's benefit, is some circles, a "wise guy" is a lieutenant
in an organized crime family.
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> 'T'was a typo in a hastily composed post made on my android between calls on 
> a busy day.
>
> That being said, I blame my proofreaders and editors. I should have been wary 
> when I heard they are from Stouffeville.
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: OT - Rue Brittania
>
> perhaps you meant um RULE? or were you being a wise guy?
> ann
>
> On 8/1/2012 11:47, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Olympics: Individual men's time trial. Wiggins gold, bronze to Froome.
>>
>> Congrats on a great day on the road!
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
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Re: Bikers w/o engines

[Don Guthrie]

It was a nice day but warm. Which is why I took most of my pictures 
standing in the shade.:) Thanks for looking Dave.




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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:03:37 +1200
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:


Every year thousands of bike riders gather to ride across Iowa in one week. 
Here's two of them who really got up to speed

http://donspix.posterous.com/1-bike-riders-went-across-iowa-last-week#!/



Looks like a beautiful day to be out on the bike.  I've seen a couple of tandem 
mountain bikes here but not road bikes.

Dave



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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

'T'was a typo in a hastily composed post made on my android between calls on a 
busy day.

That being said, I blame my proofreaders and editors. I should have been wary 
when I heard they are from Stouffeville. 

;-)

cheers,
frank 

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Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT - Rue Brittania

perhaps you meant um RULE? or were you being a wise guy?
ann

On 8/1/2012 11:47, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> Olympics: Individual men's time trial. Wiggins gold, bronze to Froome.
>
> Congrats on a great day on the road!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>

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Re: Ms. Jelenik and a Star

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Both are very fine shots of very fine autos.
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> This 1911 Mercedes Model 50 Touring Car was among the first Daimler cars to 
> wear both the Mercedes name and the three-pointed star. The Mercedes name 
> came about in 1900 when a French dealer named Emil Jellinek promised to order 
> a large number of vehicles if Daimler would brand them Mercedes, a name Mr. 
> Jellinek applied to most of his possessions, including his daughter. The star 
> came along in 1910 when Paul Daimler, who took the helm of the company when 
> Gottlieb died, was searching for a logo to represent the brand. Looking 
> through an old family album he found a photo of the family home that had been 
> inscribed by his father with a three-pointed star and an an inscription that 
> read, "From this house a star shall rise that will bring great fortune to us 
> and our children." (In its current pubs, Daimler has paraphrased those words, 
> so old Gottlieb doesn't sound quite so greedy, but according to automotive 
> historian, Beverly Rae Kimes, the original copy read as indicated above.)
>
> In any case, by 1911, both Mercedes and the star were featured prominently on 
> Daimler automobiles.
>
> This Model 50 Five Passenger, with bespoke coachwork by Maythorne & Sons, was 
> purchased in London 57 years ago by Scott Isquick, who now resides in 
> Pennsylvania. He and his wife are still enjoying it and have driven it about 
> 65,000 miles over the years. Not bad for an old brass-era machine.
>
> The star and Mercedes:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218452
>
> Mr. Isquick's Merc:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16218532&size=lg
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Re: Bikers w/o engines

[Don Guthrie]

Ah you caught me Anthony, I often see pictures as computer wallpaper and 
shoot and crop accordingly thanks for seeing that.


It has been said that one or two blurry pictures are a mistake but 
twenty blurry pictures is a style. Thanks again.







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Don,

I like your shot and the movement really works for me, much more
important in this case than perfect sharpness.  I worried me at first
that the composition was extremely biased to the right, but then I
full screened both my browser and the picture, and the penny dropped.
This picture is a perfect desktop wallpaper for bicycle enthusiasts,
with the important content over to the right where it won't get
covered by icons.

regards, Anthony


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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Frank?  A wise guy?  NEVER!

More like a wise ass .  .  .  

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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> perhaps you meant um RULE? or were you being a wise guy?
> ann
>
>
> On 8/1/2012 11:47, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Olympics: Individual men's time trial. Wiggins gold, bronze to Froome.
>>
>> Congrats on a great day on the road!
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
>> Christopher Hitchens
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RE: Bikers w/o engines

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks Frank, This was my 1st attempt at panning and some worked better 
than others.


There was quite a variety of bikes and riders and I will post a link to 
that collection later.







Message: 9
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:15:39 + (UTC)
From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
To: "\"Pentax-Discuss Mail List\"" 
Subject: Message: 9

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:15:39 + (UTC)
From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
To: "\"Pentax-Discuss Mail List\"" 
Subject: RE: Bikers w/o engines
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I'm told that tandems can really fly. Nice panning to catch this one. 
Lovely, vibrant colours, too.


Cheers,
frank


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<1292427238.142.1343790956727.javamail.se...@ap6.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net>

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I'm told that tandems can really fly. Nice panning to catch this one. Lovely, 
vibrant colours, too.

Cheers,
frank


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