Re: No Pentax K mount for new Tamron 70-200/2.8 lens

2012-09-14 Thread David Mann
That reminds me.  Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have experience 
with the Tokina ATX Pro 80-200 f/2.8?  I've seen one selling locally and a bit 
of googling shows some people moaning about fringing, but I'd trust PDMLers a 
bit more than random internet pixel-peepers.

Cheers,
Dave

On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:

> 
> 
> $Subj.
> 
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/13/Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F2-8-Di-VC-USD-ultrasonic-focus-motor-and-image-stabilization
> 
> It looks like it might be a good lens.
> I kind of doubt Pentax would be rebadging that one...
> 
> Igor
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Weird.

2012-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The K-5II is announced and it seems that the price of K-5 cameras in 
stock goes up.  I wonder what that means.


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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
PJ,
I don't think the lens cost is an issue with the 645D.
People will use the original autofocus 645 lenses.
No big deal...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:13 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> True, but at a price, $800 more or ~$1500 with a the kit zoom.  All such
> decisions are a trade off. I think Pentax has to announce a 24x36mm sensor
> camera pretty soon, and it's price will have to be in the $2000 range.  I
> suspect they may have planning to do that with a 24mp sensor but for about
> 3K.  Then they found out about the Nikon and decided to retool the idea,
> (less embarising to do that before making your new camera public, rather
> than after, MZ-D anyone).  As I said, I expect an announcement just in time
> to miss the Christmas buying season, after all they've done that before.  Of
> course it might not be a FF camera it might be a 24mp APS-C camera, but
> either way the megapixel race is still on.
>
> I'm surprised that they didn't actually announce a 645Dn with higher frame
> rate or more pixels or both.  Right now they sit between the low end MF
> backs and Canon and Nikons FF offerings, with fewer new lenses on offer,
> being squeezed by both sides.  And with the cost of their new DFA glass for
> 645D being in the low stratosphere well there seems to be an issue.
>
> On 9/14/2012 8:36 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:
>>
>> well, the thing is, nikon will almost definitely have a significant
>> real-world advantage in low-light/high-iso...
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to
>>> immediate defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost
>>> Pentax  some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't
>>> interest me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If
>>> the K-5 II matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better
>>> autofocus, it will get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are
>>> already some preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version.
>>> Pentaxians have fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big
>>> one. I suspect that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>>
 M,
 Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
 Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
 over the holiday buying season.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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> Seriously:
>
> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>
> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>
> :-)
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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Farr
On 15 September 2012 01:36, Walt  wrote:
> Next up: the booze.
>
> http://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/201.jpg?w=900
>

Frankie lived to a decent age, didn't he?  And he doesn't look the
least bit cranky under the influence the demons of alcohol and
tobacco.  They keep his hands occupied.  Remember, idle hands are the
Devil's tools.


> I, for one, welcome our new pinch-faced scold overlords:
>
> http://blogofthecourtierdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/carrie.jpg
>
> -- Walt
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The Good Book in one hand and a hatchet in the other, that's a bit scary.

regards, Anthony

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Joseph McAllister
Yeah. My Porsche can out-corner and out-brake your Ferrari!


On Sep 14, 2012, at 17:36 , Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

> well, the thing is, nikon will almost definitely have a significant
> real-world advantage in low-light/high-iso...
> 
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
>> defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  
>> some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest 
>> me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II 
>> matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will 
>> get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some 
>> preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have 
>> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect 
>> that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
>> Paul


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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like it. A bathing beauty pose! Beautiful color and expert rendering.

Paul


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> Nice pose and composition, Ken. That must be a blue cube of sea ice in the 
> background? 
> 
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> From: "kwal...@peoplepc.com" 
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> Subject: A second Alaskan Coastal Image
> 
> After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the Sawyer 
> Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due to the 
> birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several hundred 
> pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
> Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.
> 
> 20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-14 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-14 18:47 kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the Sawyer
Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due to the
birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several hundred pups
and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400


both the color scheme and the partially anthropomorphic creature grab my 
attention; like your last one this for some reason lures me into thoughts of 
pop-culture and surrealism; but it's not some very trippy graffiti in an alley 
somewhere, it's real


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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
True, but at a price, $800 more or ~$1500 with a the kit zoom.  All such 
decisions are a trade off. I think Pentax has to announce a 24x36mm 
sensor camera pretty soon, and it's price will have to be in the $2000 
range.  I suspect they may have planning to do that with a 24mp sensor 
but for about 3K.  Then they found out about the Nikon and decided to 
retool the idea, (less embarising to do that before making your new 
camera public, rather than after, MZ-D anyone).  As I said, I expect an 
announcement just in time to miss the Christmas buying season, after all 
they've done that before.  Of course it might not be a FF camera it 
might be a 24mp APS-C camera, but either way the megapixel race is still 
on.


I'm surprised that they didn't actually announce a 645Dn with higher 
frame rate or more pixels or both.  Right now they sit between the low 
end MF backs and Canon and Nikons FF offerings, with fewer new lenses on 
offer, being squeezed by both sides.  And with the cost of their new DFA 
glass for 645D being in the low stratosphere well there seems to be an 
issue.


On 9/14/2012 8:36 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

well, the thing is, nikon will almost definitely have a significant
real-world advantage in low-light/high-iso...

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  some 
sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest me if it 
couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II matches the 
noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will get some 
excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some preliminary 
whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have fixated on 
frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect that much of the 
rest of the world doesn't care.
Paul


On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:


M,
Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
over the holiday buying season.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:

Seriously:

http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10

Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.

:-)


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Re: PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

2012-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/14/2012 7:16 PM, jn289 wrote:

Thanks, Joe



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16459958


Psychedelic.

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Re: PESO - Ominous

2012-09-14 Thread Tim Bray
Cool. What’s the red thingie? -T

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:15 PM, frank theriault
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> Looking out over Lake Ontario:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-14 Thread Jack Davis
Nice pose and composition, Ken. That must be a blue cube of sea ice in the 
background? 


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Subject: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the Sawyer 
Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due to the 
birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several hundred pups 
and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

Comments appreciated.

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PESO - Ominous

2012-09-14 Thread frank theriault
Looking out over Lake Ontario:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-14 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, Ken, that's really lovely!  The light and color rendering is delicate and 
elegant to my eye.  nice composition as well.  boy did you get a great look 
from the pup.  Cheers, Christine 



On Sep 14, 2012, at 7:47 PM,  wrote:

> After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the Sawyer 
> Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due to the 
> birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several hundred 
> pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
> Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.
> 
> 20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very nice Ken, and a rare capture.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:47 PM,   wrote:
> After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
> Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due
> to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several
> hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
> Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.
>
> 20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
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Re: PESO: Waiting for his solo

2012-09-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
I like that Dan.
It is clearly anticipation.
And a nice sharp picture.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460311
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Re: The Straw

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite interesting.
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> A photo, Thanks Joe
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
Probably 2000.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Mark Roberts
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> Miserere wrote:
>
>>Well, the Canon 6D has been leaked and should be announced soon (as a
>>D600 competitor). Price is expected to be sub $2,500.
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote:

>Well, the Canon 6D has been leaked and should be announced soon (as a
>D600 competitor). Price is expected to be sub $2,500.

I'll be surprised if it isn't within about $100.00 of the D600!

 
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread kwaller
Pentaxians have fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big 
one.


MARK!




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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!


I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax 
some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest 
me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II 
matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will 
get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some 
preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have 
fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect 
that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.

Paul


On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:


M,
Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
over the holiday buying season.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:

Seriously:

http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10

Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.

:-)


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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Luka Knezevic-Strika  wrote:
> well, the thing is, nikon will almost definitely have a significant
> real-world advantage in low-light/high-iso…

Probably. But that hasn't been a given with some full-frame cameras, and 
price/value considerations enter into it as well. Pentax is so strong in APS-C 
in terms of both product and the lens lineup that taking their eye off the ball 
could be a mistake. The lens lineup for a Pentax full frame would be lacking 
without a half dozen or so new lens introductions. 
On Sep 14, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
>> defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  
>> some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest 
>> me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II 
>> matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will 
>> get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some 
>> preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have 
>> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect 
>> that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> 
>>> M,
>>> Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
>>> Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
>>> over the holiday buying season.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
 Seriously:
 
 http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
 
 Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
 
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A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-14 Thread kwaller
After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the 
Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due 
to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several 
hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.

Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
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Comments appreciated.

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
THERE are already some preliminary whispers. ARRRGH!
On Sep 14, 2012, at 8:34 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
> defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  
> some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest 
> me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II 
> matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will 
> get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some 
> preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have 
> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect that 
> much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> 
>> M,
>> Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
>> Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
>> over the holiday buying season.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>>> Seriously:
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>>> 
>>> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>>> 
>>> :-)
>>> 
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
well, the thing is, nikon will almost definitely have a significant
real-world advantage in low-light/high-iso...

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
> defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  
> some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest 
> me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II 
> matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will 
> get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some 
> preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have 
> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect that 
> much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
> Paul
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> M,
>> Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
>> Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
>> over the holiday buying season.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>>> Seriously:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>>>
>>> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  some 
sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest me if it 
couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II matches the 
noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will get some 
excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some preliminary 
whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have fixated on 
frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect that much of the 
rest of the world doesn't care.
Paul


On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> M,
> Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
> Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
> over the holiday buying season.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>> Seriously:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>> 
>> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT: leakage on the Fuji X-E1

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
On 24 August 2012 16:32, Darren Addy  wrote:
> We've got some Fuji fans here, so this may be of interest to some...
> http://www.seriouscompacts.com/f38/meet-fuji-x-e1-12031/


I did a serious Scooby Doo when I saw this. Hope I can get to try it
out with their 35mm f/1.4. It *could* be my next "my next camera".
I've had many "my next cameras" over the past couple of years and none
have panned out.

It's a bummer when the camera companies don't call me to ask exactly
what I want my next camera to be like.


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Re: Nifty Fifty comparison over at the forums

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
On 29 August 2012 03:09, Larry Colen  wrote:
> So buy buying a full frame body, I'd be able to save money by being able to 
> use a lens I already have.

So by buying a $2,000 - 2,500 camera you'll be saving $500 on a lens
and therefore saving money altogether? Airtight logic there, Larry
:-p


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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
On 14 September 2012 18:18, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>>On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>>> Seriously:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>>>
>>> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>>>
>>Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
>>Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
>>over the holiday buying season.
>
> You can count on Canon having one by then, too. Wouldn't be surprised
> to see it announced at Photokina next week. (I'd expect a D4
> competitor, too, but that's in a league where I don't play!)

Well, the Canon 6D has been leaked and should be announced soon (as a
D600 competitor). Price is expected to be sub $2,500.

Nikon will win this battle because 600 is a higher number than 6, so
it's a better camera, right?  :-)


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PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

2012-09-14 Thread jn289

Thanks, Joe



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16459958

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The Straw

2012-09-14 Thread jn289

A photo, Thanks Joe



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PESO: Waiting for his solo

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460311

Comments are appreciated.

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote:

>On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>> Seriously:
>>
>> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>>
>> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>>
>Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
>Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
>over the holiday buying season.

You can count on Canon having one by then, too. Wouldn't be surprised
to see it announced at Photokina next week. (I'd expect a D4
competitor, too, but that's in a league where I don't play!)
 
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
M,
Once Nikon is out with their compact, full frame camera,
Pentax will need to announce something to stem the defections
over the holiday buying season.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> Seriously:
>
> http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>
> Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>
> :-)
>
>
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Re: Slow list?

2012-09-14 Thread Toralf Lund

On 9/14/12 23:21, P. J. Alling wrote:
No messages since this morning.  Does everyone have as little to say 
as I do?

Probably, but that doesn't usually stop us from talking.

I've got a few messages today, but the last one before yours was 
received about 3 hours and 20 minutes earlier. That may be a larger gap 
than normal for this list...


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Slow list?

2012-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
No messages since this morning.  Does everyone have as little to say as 
I do?


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Re: sluggish behavior of LR 4.1 (some possible solutions)

2012-09-14 Thread Boris Liberman
I can attest to that. It sucks. I am going to try to follow your 
recommendations, Igor and report.


LR 3.x was much snappier even on lowly Intel 8400 Dual Core, while 
presently I have i5 and still it is slow indeed.



On 9/14/2012 7:38 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



I think this might be of interest to some PDMLers.
On one Russian forum, I found some summary related to the fact that LR
4.1 is rather sluggish especially when switching between photos in
Develop module, - it takes 5-6-7 seconds.

I haven't experienced this myself, - as despite purchasing LR 4.1, I
haven't installed it yet [because Adobe morons cut off XP on this
version].
Don't kick me, - I am just passing the info "as is".


The person summarized a bunch of suggested solutions and marked what
did or didn't work for him.
Here is a quick translation of that summary:

- Create 1:1 previews
* doesn't help

- Remove monitor profile(s)
* helpes a bit (~10% faster) no doesn't solve the problem in general.

- Not to use the 2nd monitor
* does make it somewhat faster

- Install a new video card
* LR doesn't care.

- Switchto the old process (2010 instead of 2012)
* Doesn't help

- Install LR 2.4RC (beta)
* Helps. It's working ~2x as fast: changing photos takes ~3 sec.
Beta-version seems to work fine.
! Warning: the beta version installas itself over 4.1 which is Awful!

- Reduce the size of the LR window while working in Develop module -
  to a half or 1/4 of the screen [IR: how large is his screen to make
that possible?]
* Helps very much. Decreasing to the smallest visible size shows that
the switching between photos is immediate.

YMMV.

HTH,

Igor






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Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
Seriously:

http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10

Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.

:-)


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Re: Anyone in the market for a 560 mm?

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
On 3 September 2012 20:06, Tim Bray  wrote:
> I’ve been awfully pleased with my antique Tokina SL-400 f5.6, long &
> skinny & very hand-holdable.   The extra 160mm might be nice and so
> would the modern fripperies like auto-focus and friends.  But I bet
> it’s not hand-holdable, from the pix.  -T


Tim,

I have the AF version of that Tokina. It's nice to have AF, but the
lens a little bit less sharp than the manual focus version (I own
both); on the plus side, it focuses closer. Still, when I shoot with
the K10D I grab the AF one as I only need to concentrate on keeping it
stable. As a man, I can't multi-task.

As I move toward mirrorless (true mirrorless, not the K-01) I'll
probably sell the AF Tokina 400m, so let me know if you're interested.

As for the Pentax 560mm, it looks like the front section (not the
hood) might slide backwards. It would be cool if it did.

Cheers,


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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Farr
Interestingly, 'Top Gear Australia' did a segment on this car and
driver, and they treated the tobacco advertising completely
differently depending upon whether the footage was historic or newly
recorded.  The old stuff went to air intact, but the new footage had
the text of the adverts blurred out.

Double standards, what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7_pPiDksI0

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Re: PESO - Dog Boy

2012-09-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Don't include a return address or anything to identify you. ;-)


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
>
> I'm sure he enjoyed it. The painted tongue is a nice touch. Send him that
> portrait when he is 25.
>
>
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:58:14 -0400
>> From: frank theriault
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: PESO - Dog Boy
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>
>> Not sure about his painted face:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Farr
On 15 September 2012 02:36, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> But weren't they at war with Eurasia last week?

What do the back-issues of The Times say?

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sluggish behavior of LR 4.1 (some possible solutions)

2012-09-14 Thread Igor Roshchin


I think this might be of interest to some PDMLers.
On one Russian forum, I found some summary related to the fact that LR
4.1 is rather sluggish especially when switching between photos in
Develop module, - it takes 5-6-7 seconds.

I haven't experienced this myself, - as despite purchasing LR 4.1, I
haven't installed it yet [because Adobe morons cut off XP on this
version].
Don't kick me, - I am just passing the info "as is".


The person summarized a bunch of suggested solutions and marked what
did or didn't work for him.
Here is a quick translation of that summary:

- Create 1:1 previews
* doesn't help

- Remove monitor profile(s)
* helpes a bit (~10% faster) no doesn't solve the problem in general.

- Not to use the 2nd monitor
* does make it somewhat faster

- Install a new video card
* LR doesn't care.

- Switchto the old process (2010 instead of 2012)
* Doesn't help

- Install LR 2.4RC (beta)
* Helps. It's working ~2x as fast: changing photos takes ~3 sec.
Beta-version seems to work fine.
! Warning: the beta version installas itself over 4.1 which is Awful!

- Reduce the size of the LR window while working in Develop module -
 to a half or 1/4 of the screen [IR: how large is his screen to make
that possible?]
* Helps very much. Decreasing to the smallest visible size shows that
the switching between photos is immediate.

YMMV.

HTH,

Igor



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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Farr
On 15 September 2012 02:29, John Sessoms  wrote:
> the decision whether or not to include a cigarette was within the discretion
> of the artist who did the paintings.

Actually, that decision was mandated by U.S. Postal Service's publicly
stated policy against the depiction of tobacco smoking on its
products.  The artist's attitude was moot, whatever it may have been.

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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/14/2012 12:30 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

On 15 September 2012 01:18, P. J. Alling  wrote:

does the paper even realize that they've given the stamp even more
visibility by running the story?

You betcha they do.


  and why does it feel as if Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia?

Who cares how long the war has been going on, so long as I get my
ration of chocolate and gin.

regards, Anthony


But weren't they at war with Eurasia last week?

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Re: OT: As a former pro wedding photographer...

2012-09-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P. J. Alling"


On 9/14/2012 11:05 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Rob Studdert


On 14 September 2012 02:51, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

I'd really like to snark a bit here, but really, words fail me.


This might reinvigorate you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDejJfgsk1U&feature=youtu.be


Especially the links at the end to at least 4 different videos all
claiming to be THE FIRST wedding shot exclusively with an iPhone.


The suggestion that couples have their friends document their weddings
with their camera phones is little different than those who put a bunch
of disposable cameras on the tables at the reception and collected them
to document the reception.   Sometimes to augment the hired
photographer, sometimes in place of one.  No idea is new, it's only a
variation of an old one.  The human race is doomed.


Yep. We're all going to die.

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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Farr
On 15 September 2012 01:18, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> does the paper even realize that they've given the stamp even more
> visibility by running the story?

You betcha they do.

>  and why does it feel as if Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia?

Who cares how long the war has been going on, so long as I get my
ration of chocolate and gin.

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Re: So... K-5II huh? But without a net work link, Do I want that?

2012-09-14 Thread Eactivist
Egad. How truly awful!

Marnie aka  Doe  I WANT one! Heh.

In a message dated 9/13/2012 3:03:28 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes:
> Cory

I  believe this is the camera you are  describing:
http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-slr-mount/
Sadly,  available in Canon or Nikon flavors only.  


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No Pentax K mount for new Tamron 70-200/2.8 lens

2012-09-14 Thread Igor Roshchin


$Subj.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/13/Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F2-8-Di-VC-USD-ultrasonic-focus-motor-and-image-stabilization

It looks like it might be a good lens.
I kind of doubt Pentax would be rebadging that one...

Igor


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Re: PESO - Dog Boy

2012-09-14 Thread Don Guthrie
I'm sure he enjoyed it. The painted tongue is a nice touch. Send him 
that portrait when he is 25.



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Not sure about his painted face:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Bumper Cars

2012-09-14 Thread David J Brooks
Well done.

Dave

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Last month a fun fair came to town:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/bumper-cars.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> More to come, maybe.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: OT - Are Cigarettes History?

2012-09-14 Thread Walt

Next up: the booze.

http://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/201.jpg?w=900

I, for one, welcome our new pinch-faced scold overlords:

http://blogofthecourtierdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/carrie.jpg

-- Walt


On 9/14/2012 10:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Political correctness runs amuck, does the paper even realize that 
they've given the stamp even more visibility by running the story?  
Where does the outrage end, and why does it feel as if Oceania has 
always been at war with Eastasia?


On 9/14/2012 4:11 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

Some of us may remember the
'did-they-or-didn't-they-photoshop-the-ciggy' thread some years ago.
It was about about postage stamp depictions of Bette Davis and Robert
Johnson, and the suspicion that the U.S. Postal Service had censored
their gaspers. It eventuated that they did for Johnson and they didn't
for Davis.

Here's how Australia Post handled a similar problem, and their 
rationale:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/marlboros-unpaid-plug-20120914-25w4h.html 



or TinyURL:
http://tinyurl.com/9zvse8d

The photographic relevance is that the stamp's image was sourced from
a photograph.

My view is that smoking is history, and may it rest in peace. And,
smoking is (a part of) history, and may its harm never be forgotten.

regards, Anthony







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Re: OT: As a former pro wedding photographer...

2012-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/14/2012 11:05 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Rob Studdert

On 14 September 2012 02:51, P. J. Alling  
wrote:

I'd really like to snark a bit here, but really, words fail me.


This might reinvigorate you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDejJfgsk1U&feature=youtu.be


Especially the links at the end to at least 4 different videos all 
claiming to be THE FIRST wedding shot exclusively with an iPhone.


The suggestion that couples have their friends document their weddings 
with their camera phones is little different than those who put a bunch 
of disposable cameras on the tables at the reception and collected them 
to document the reception.   Sometimes to augment the hired 
photographer, sometimes in place of one.  No idea is new, it's only a 
variation of an old one.  The human race is doomed.


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Re: OT: As a former pro wedding photographer...

2012-09-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rob Studdert


On 14 September 2012 02:51, P. J. Alling  wrote:

I'd really like to snark a bit here, but really, words fail me.


This might reinvigorate you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDejJfgsk1U&feature=youtu.be


Especially the links at the end to at least 4 different videos all 
claiming to be THE FIRST wedding shot exclusively with an iPhone.


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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
On 14 September 2012 08:44, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:01 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>> On 13/09/2012 6:59 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mark Roberts
>>>  wrote:
 Rob Studdert wrote:

>>
>> At least Nikon offers an upgrade path
>
> Not if you own a D4.
>
>>>
>>> A preview I read says to think of the D600 as a FF D7000 (ie prosumer).
>>>
>>> So yeah, they'll sell boatloads, but it will be to people who just
>>> want the magic of the FF buzzword, but for no good actual reason.
>>>
>> I'd probably take one just for the viewfinder.
>> Will it work with my pre AI lenses?
>
> Not without modification.
>
>> I mean this quite seriously, a few years ago I bought the Nikon kit I wanted 
>> when I was a kid. I sought out another F2s, and a 50/1.4, 85/1.8, and 
>> 105/2.5, all contemporaneous with the F2s, and I got an older 35/3.5 from 
>> the late F series era.
>>
>> If I could use this camera with these lenses, I might be interested.
>
> As I understand it, the older lenses can be machined to work on AIS cameras, 
> and would therefore work with the D600.
>
> http://www.aiconversions.com/


His prices are a steal. I was expecting $100/lens or something of the sort.


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Re: PESO - Dog Boy

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a wonderful portrait of an appealing young man.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:58 PM, frank theriault
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> Not sure about his painted face:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-14 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:01 PM, William Robb wrote:

> On 13/09/2012 6:59 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mark Roberts
>>  wrote:
>>> Rob Studdert wrote:
>>> 
> 
> At least Nikon offers an upgrade path

Not if you own a D4.

>> 
>> A preview I read says to think of the D600 as a FF D7000 (ie prosumer).
>> 
>> So yeah, they'll sell boatloads, but it will be to people who just
>> want the magic of the FF buzzword, but for no good actual reason.
>> 
> I'd probably take one just for the viewfinder.
> Will it work with my pre AI lenses?

Not without modification.

> I mean this quite seriously, a few years ago I bought the Nikon kit I wanted 
> when I was a kid. I sought out another F2s, and a 50/1.4, 85/1.8, and 
> 105/2.5, all contemporaneous with the F2s, and I got an older 35/3.5 from the 
> late F series era.
> 
> If I could use this camera with these lenses, I might be interested.

As I understand it, the older lenses can be machined to work on AIS cameras, 
and would therefore work with the D600.

http://www.aiconversions.com/


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Re: PESO - Dog Boy

2012-09-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Full marks for an excellent portrait, Frank. The light and detail in
his eyes are terrific.

Repellant paint work though. :-)



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>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html
>
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>
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Re: Ned Bunnel "retires" as pres of PRIAC

2012-09-14 Thread Miserere
Mark Roberts  wrote:

> I just checked at the DP Review Pentax forum and Ned himself made the
> following post:
> 
> "...your posting of my age reminds me of Mark Twain's quote 'the
> reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.' Your google search must
> have identified another guy, as I'm only going to be 65 this fall, and
> Hamada-san is much younger than me:)
> 
> "Also, I hope some of the forum members posting here are better
> photographers than how they interpret a press release. Sometimes
> what's said is simply fact. I choose to retire plain and simple.
> 
> "I thoroughly enjoyed working for PENTAX, but after 7 years of
> commuting every week from CA to CO, it was time for me to not be a
> stranger to my wife and grand kids, get a little more surfing in, and
> think about about what I want to do for my next chapter.
> 
> "Thanks for your thoughts Joseph and happy shooting to all. "
> 
> 
> Having met Ned myself (at the K-X press introduction in NYC) I can say
> that he's a straight shooter and I'd take him at his word. The
> lifestyle he must have been leading would be tough for a young person
> and much tougher on someone 64 years old. (In fact, I must admit, when
> I saw him in NYC in 2009 my impression was that he was around 64-65
> then; he looked much older in person than in his photos.)
> 
> I'm going to take his word that he's just ready to retire after
> bringing Pentax through some very tough times. 
>  


What ever the truth (and I tend to agree with Mark on this, having also met Ned 
in person and held some corrrspondence with him), it's happened already. I 
e-mailed him yesterday to congratulate him on retiring and having done a great 
job ay Pentax...and my e-mail bounced cos the address no longer exists!

Does anyone know if e-mails changed after the Ricoh acquisition? I'd been in 
contact with him after that happened last year at his usual Pentax address so I 
didn't think so.

Anyway, I agree that Ned was the best thing about Pentax USA and I'm sad to see 
him go.

Ned id gone... Long live Ned!


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