Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On 1 November 2012 05:51, Larry Colen wrote: > > Lets look at the K-5. When it comes to low light work, it is > absofuckinglutely amazing. In some ways it is close to on par with a D700. > The D800 increases the resolution over the D700, but for low light it's not a > lot better. The Canon 5d3 is pretty amazing in low light, but either of > those cameras cost two, nearly three times what a K-5 does. What was the > K-5s one weakness in low light? Focus. And they seem to have addressed that > issue. Yeah I love the K5's IQ in low light, it's superb, so long as the subject stays pretty still (that said I am not using the green AF strobe of death either, far too distracting to my targets) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
From: Larry Colen A couple of automotive analogies occur to me. First of all, complaining that the K-5 isn't full frame is like complaining that the Corvette doesn't have a V12. It also seems to me that the folks who buy a DSLR based on its automatic features are like people who buy a sports car based on its automatic transmission. (Yes, John, I know) In many ways modern automatic transmissions will outperform even a good driver with a manual transmission, but if I really wanted to get my car around the track in the least amount of time, I'd hire a professional to race it for me. Larry, I find that pretty damn offensive actually. Just so you know. If you want a V12 Corvette with an automatic transmission and a professional driver to race it for you, go for it. If you want the K-5 in any of it's multitude of incarnations, BUY ONE. It's your money, spend it how it pleases you. What you just don't seem to be able to grasp is that I want something different. Don't tell me I'm stupid because I don't want what you want. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
Reply interspersed. On 10/31/2012 8:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Colin, have you ever developed a new technology product from the initial "customer requirements" to shipping? I did, though it was a software piece. How much time have you spent designing, writing and testing embedded firmware? 100% - it was all software, though it wasn't embedded. As far as I can tell, Hoya cut back development to the absolute bare minimum to keep the company afloat and maximize short term profits, so it would seem that Ricoh has to pretty much start with a clean slate. Sadly it may be very true. Lets look at the K-5. When it comes to low light work, it is absofuckinglutely amazing. In some ways it is close to on par with a D700. The D800 increases the resolution over the D700, but for low light it's not a lot better. The Canon 5d3 is pretty amazing in low light, but either of those cameras cost two, nearly three times what a K-5 does. What was the K-5s one weakness in low light? Focus. And they seem to have addressed that issue. Few points. 1. Why would you want to compare Pentax to Nikon? If your tool gets the job done, why to compare? 2. How much K-5 costed when it was introduced? And how much Canon 6D or Nikon D600 cost now. Heck, just recently you, guys, had a sale (even mentioned by TheOnlinePhotograher.com) where you could buy Canon 5DMk2 together with 24-105/4L for 2.200 of your currency. That's not a shabby proposition... 3. I don't know about cameras of other systems but my K-5 has a tendency to color everything in dark violet when it is dark outside. I'd call that a weakness... I'd love more, smaller, focus points, but that's a much bigger, time consuming, and expensive redesign. Is it really??? Aren't cameras supposed to be somewhat modular like any other modern technological marvels? Yes, autofocus could be a bit quicker, there are improvements that could be made in auto exposure. So, if you are the sort of photographer than just wants to aim the camera and let it make all the decisions and do everything that requires any actual skill, then maybe Pentax isn't the brand for you. Maybe you'd be happier with a Canon point and shoot. Why do I get a feeling that you had a bit of defensive tone here??? Let's say this: 1. If in good light I point my camera somewhere with reasonable accuracy in terms of focal point being directed at where I want it to auto-focus, I expect it to auto-focus just there. Not to the object far behind or another object far in front. You know, Larry, in the user manual of my Ricoh GXR it is written English on white that this camera will always tend to focus on the object closest to it. I cannot express in words how easy it is for me to get proper focus now in terms of accuracy. Because I know what to expect. And pardon me being blunt, why for crying out loud Pentax makes me to have to investigate or research how it's AF works - write it in the fucking manual so that I can read the darn thing. 2. If in good light I point my camera to a simple scene I want to get a reasonably accurate exposure reading. What's the point of auto-exposure if I get not 1% or 5% of bad exposures, but like 90% of them so that I have to be mindful of what specific exposure compensation I have to dial in for each session of shooting. You see, I shot with Nikon D700 on one occasion. In-doors, mixed light sources, not very much light all together. I had D700, 24-70/2.8 and some flash. I used it as insanely big and heavy point-and-shoot. Guess what - I got all my shots in. No focus or exposure problems whatsoever. None, zip, zilch, nada... The only shots I lost where to camera shake or badly chosen moment. If Nikon can develop such a reliable accurate system, then why cannot Pentax? (*) And no, I won't be happier with Canon point and shoot. (*) Clarification: I am talking purely in terms of technology here. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On 10/31/2012 9:25 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Well said, Larry. I passed up the K-7 in favor of the K-x because of its low light capabilities and am absolutely ecstatic with the K-5. Maybe I'm just too easy to please. Then again, I have a nearly 50 year history with Pentax and can remember Kodachrome at ASA 12 and *High Speed* Ektachrome at ASA 160. That makes getting a useable image at ISO 25000 pretty damn awesome. All the mental masturbation about where Pentax is going doesn't mean a lot when they're still giving us the tools to get the job done. The time to fret about it and start considering which new brand to buy is when they tools they give you don't do the job you need them to do. As for the demise of Pentax, Twain's quote probably applies..."The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Paul, I think that if you were to have to fix your camera or lens and your local official service would report to you that they did not have a part and your camera or lens hence are irrepairable, then you might think otherwise. Amazingly enough in terms of picture quality the little Ricoh GXR beats my K-5 hands down: 1. It has significantly more accurate metering. 2. It has significantly more tolerance of overexposed areas, so that when the scene I am photographing has areas list by Israeli bright sun and dark shades, I don't have to expose so much to the left as I used to do with K-5. I can even dial in some heavy plus exposure compensation on purpose and get very editable images. 3. It has far better color fidelity and color separation. I can modify one color and the rest won't be affected as much. Although I still am not certain specifically here - whether it is the camera or it is the new editing engine of Lightroom 4.x. 4. Here comes the innovation part. The optimization done between the lens and the sensor in 50mm module is such that the fact that have 4 million lens pixels does not bother me to the slightest in terms of resolution. I don't remember who was it on the list who asked to send them K-5 files with eye brows and eye lashes in them so that they could compare the resolution. The resolution that I get from my camera might actually satisfy that gentleman. Obviously, I don't get a number of features that K-5 offers, both in terms of usability (such as weather sealing) or picture taking (flash or extreme sensor sensitivity), but suffices it so say my FA 31 has been sold because 33/2.5 (the actual denomination of the 50 mm module lens) is just as good except being slower, but somehow I don't see that as a detriment any longer. As for your mention of "mental masturbation". I have to say I think you chose a term a bit too hard or harsh here. I don't pretend to know how to run a company such as Pentax. However I can notice one serious decline of quality control and another such decline in terms of mechanical quality of the cheaper offerings. These are things that unfortunately concern me if I am to keep being Pentax customer. And in my understanding they are in line of direction of "mental masturbation" as you had it called. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On 10/31/2012 4:39 PM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: Such conclusions are premature; the product we saw so far (from October 2011) are "Pentax-Hoya" projects. There simply wasn't enough time (less than a year, including analyzing the business and formulating a plan) to build a "true" Pentax Ricoh camera. What they could do was to finish products already in pipeline, including ones frozen by Hoya (the DA 560mm for example). Please be patient, next year we should see more interesting stuff. Well, you may be right. I mean - it is indeed possible that Ricoh will do way better than Hoya in terms of investing money in the right areas so that next round of products from Pentax will be good. However: 1. Like Larry said - cameras and lenses are just tools. I would add that in a sense they are also toys. 2. Although great many of Pentax users that I happen to know are very loyal (even to the point of being slightly fanatical about that) to their brand of choice of photo gear, it couldn't be said that Pentax reciprocates. Just recently we had a thread about SDM failures. Previously I had an impression that SDM failures were not an issue for this club. But then it turned out that Paul's 60-250 developed this problem. Then Bob chimed in. And then it turned out that we had significantly more cases. And presently my impression is that SDM failures are not figment of imagination of PentaxForums crowd which is deemed hysterical by this community. No matter - it is a technical issue that as rumor has it Pentax resolved. However an official word would have been very helpful here, but none was produced. 3. I cannot help but notice that Pentax lenses get very little mention here. Granted the thread is about cameras, but IMO, Pentax hasn't been really innovating in terms of optical design either. They did produce the new coating - but so what... SMC is good enough. I have two contemporary developed lenses. DA 21/3.2 - and it looses out to my copy of FA 20/2.8 in terms of sharpness at wide aperture. And DA* 16-50/2.8 which is soft towards the corners in a way that just makes me hit my forehead in disbelief - this is the flagship standard fast zoom lens from the manufacturer that just 10 years prior to that was introducing absolutely stellar optics. The DA* 16-50/2.8 is good enough for me, but me is just a very pedestrian amateur. What about more serious photographers? Oh, we have Paul in our midst and Benjamin Kanarek on the PentaxForums who are doing great job with their Pentax gear. However, despite what Paul said I maintain that it is not because of gear they get their fantastic pictures, but because of them being masters of their art. 4. Comparing over last 3 years the products that were introduced to the market by all Pentax competitors large and small alike personally I think that Pentax R&D has been forced into complete halt. Just compare the cameras and lenses that Olympus introduced being under extreme financial dire straits... 5. It is not to say that sky is falling and that my gear will stop working because of that. However, the consequences are that it is not trivial as it used to be to have to fix Pentax gear nowadays. Few people posted here some rather unpleasant stories that happened to them with CRIS or whomever that was. Eventually the issues were resolved, but it was people of USA - the mightiest consumer country of them all. Where I am - I don't want to start thinking about it... The sky is not falling but to say that it is business as usual would be, how to put it, narrow-sighted... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour
Frank - What I see here appears to be a homeless, out of work man who is virtually invisible to the passers-by. He may be down on his luck, but still retains a shred of dignity. He still cares some about his appearance, as evidenced by his trimmed beard and hair. I think the image is a statement about our times and see no reason not to display it. -p On 10/31/2012 10:01 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have a dilemma here and your opinion would help me. I do take photos of beggars from time to time but I try not to exploit them and do try to show them in a very "human" way. So here's today's PESO: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/bloor-station-rush-hour.html?m=0 Exploiting or no? It's obviously a jarring image and one that many will find uncomfortable to look at (indeed one ~should~ feel uncomfortable). However my thoughts are, firstly, that I take pictures of all sorts of people from business people to firefighters to construction workers; beggars are as much a part of a city as anyone else. Secondly, I think there's a story here that goes beyond simply, "here's a beggar, let's gawk." I won't tell you what I think that story is; if the viewer can't see stories then the photo obviously isn't working (for that viewer). So if you have thoughts on this photo and whether I should display it I would love to hear them. And comments on the photo itself are welcome. Thanks, frank "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
For me, it means a better value:price ratio than what I see in the K-5. That's what originally attracted me to Pentax. I'm not knocking the K-5 or the K-5II. I'm just stating that it's not enough of an improvement over what I've already got for me to justify the price. YMMV. From: Steven Desjardins And those core values are? The K5 is an excellent camera for the price. The K30 is probably even better in terms of "per dollar". Weather sealed and most of the K5 IQ with better AF. We are the ones thta have changed. We all harken back tot he days when Pentax released a new body every 5 years but now complain about the 2 year old K5. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Roberts I don't understand the fuss. Even the notoriously "lukewarm-about-Pentax" DP Review described the K-5 as "arguably the best" of the APS-C cameras. The new models represent worthwhile improvements over the K-5. True, the upper-level "prosumer" market (where Pentax top-of-the-line DSLRs have traditionally resided) is moving toward full-frame, but there's no reason to doubt that Pentax will get there. I'm so pleased with the results I get from my K-5 that I have no desire at all to upgrade to either version of the new K-5II. From my perspective, as good as the K-7 & K-5 were, they just didn't offer enough improvement over the K10D to justify the expense. I did eventually find a second-hand K20D at a low enough price to justify buying it and relegating my *ist-D to the closet & letting the K10D become my backup. At this point, the K-5II just looks like Pentax is running in place. The value:cost ratio still isn't there for me. I originally chose Pentax because of the high ratio of value for the dollar it offered. To me, it appears that value:cost ratio has been eroding ever since the MZ-D. Pentax needs to find their direction and return to the core values that made the brand my choice. And they need to do it damn soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: pentax sighting
Unless I've missed it, I don't think w've gotten that episode yet. I'll take note. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > In the topgear 50 years of bond cars, > there isa Moonraker console with two Tak lenses > I have the image on facebook > > Sincerely, > > Collin Brendemuehl > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" > -- Jim Elliott > > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fuji X100?
Excellent. I hear it's quirky, but you've been using Pentax so it's just a question of getting use to a different kind of quirky. ;-) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > In case anyone is keeping score at home, I pulled the trigger on one of > these beasties this morning. It should be here by Monday and I'll begin > running it through its paces a bit. It'll be my first non-Pentax camera in > twenty-some years. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour
Well, I have a dilemma here and your opinion would help me. I do take photos of beggars from time to time but I try not to exploit them and do try to show them in a very "human" way. So here's today's PESO: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/bloor-station-rush-hour.html?m=0 Exploiting or no? It's obviously a jarring image and one that many will find uncomfortable to look at (indeed one ~should~ feel uncomfortable). However my thoughts are, firstly, that I take pictures of all sorts of people from business people to firefighters to construction workers; beggars are as much a part of a city as anyone else. Secondly, I think there's a story here that goes beyond simply, "here's a beggar, let's gawk." I won't tell you what I think that story is; if the viewer can't see stories then the photo obviously isn't working (for that viewer). So if you have thoughts on this photo and whether I should display it I would love to hear them. And comments on the photo itself are welcome. Thanks, frank "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fuji X100?
I hope you enjoy it! I'll be interested to hear what you think of it after you get a chance to use it for a while. Godfrey On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > In case anyone is keeping score at home, I pulled the trigger on one of > these beasties this morning. It should be here by Monday and I'll begin > running it through its paces a bit. It'll be my first non-Pentax camera in > twenty-some years. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fuji X100?
In case anyone is keeping score at home, I pulled the trigger on one of these beasties this morning. It should be here by Monday and I'll begin running it through its paces a bit. It'll be my first non-Pentax camera in twenty-some years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
Um... John... had your glasses prescription checked lately? I've recently been reviewing images from my K10D, K-7, and K-5, and the improvement is just stunning in every way. And, it ain't the photographer! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: John Sessoms To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ... >From my perspective, as good as the K-7 & K-5 were, they just didn't offer enough improvement over the K10D to justify the expense. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
Sounds like a great buy. Well done, Stef. Paul On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Hi team > > Stef is pretty stoked at the moment - he's just nabbed a mint in box 1D > mark II n to replace his original 1D clunker. Boxed, manuals, > accessories, amateur use (9600 actuations) all for 495 GBP which was a > little more than he wanted to pay but all the sub-400 GBP units out > there are beaters more or less. > > Hope all is well, especially to east-coast USAers. > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
Larry Colen wrote: >You do realize that a quantum change is the absolute smallest possible change? Small for you and me. But HUGE for an electron! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
pentax sighting
In the topgear 50 years of bond cars, there isa Moonraker console with two Tak lenses I have the image on facebook Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John Francis wrote: > >> I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of the K-5 not being a >> worthwhile upgrade from a K10D. > > Ain't that the truth! The K20D was a significant upgrade from the K10D > in terms of image quality and AF. The K-7 offered little image quality > benefit over the K20D but improved menus, controls and general > operation. The K-5 was a big improvement on the K-7... and a quantum > leap over the K10D. You do realize that a quantum change is the absolute smallest possible change? If I were in the market for a new body, I would not hesitate to get a K5-IIs. The K-5 is an amazing camera, and the IIs seems to correct one of its major shortcomings. If it takes them a while to make the successor to the K5 family, and to get it right, I'd rather they took their time and got it right. Lets face it, in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, the K-5 has nothing to be ashamed of in terms of image quality. I don't think that there's a camera that out does it for less than twice the price. It will be very interesting to see how the IIs scores on DxoMark. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
Sounds impressive. Good for him. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 31/10/12, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Good for Stef. Is he done with school yet? > > Hi Bob, > > He has finished our equivalent of high school, and is now taking a year > out before starting (hopefully) at London South Bank University doing a > BA Hons in digital photography. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
John Francis wrote: >I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of the K-5 not being a >worthwhile upgrade from a K10D. Ain't that the truth! The K20D was a significant upgrade from the K10D in terms of image quality and AF. The K-7 offered little image quality benefit over the K20D but improved menus, controls and general operation. The K-5 was a big improvement on the K-7... and a quantum leap over the K10D. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:48:09PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > First of all, complaining that the K-5 isn't full frame is like complaining > that the Corvette doesn't have a V12. > > It also seems to me that the folks who buy a DSLR based on its automatic > features are like people who buy a sports car based on its automatic > transmission. It's not an automatic ... I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of the K-5 not being a worthwhile upgrade from a K10D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
On 31/10/12, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >So, does this mean he'll let you use the old one? The idea is to sell it, but I said hang on for a while a second body - he's into sports snapping so another body is a good idea. Even at 4MP the old 1D is still amazing if you keep the ISO low. The mark II n is 8MP but the ISO is much better, and obviously the APS-H sensor size helps. I use my lil X10 exclusively these days! -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
On 31/10/12, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: >Nice find. Does Dad share lenses? The only one in his bag that is mine is the K15/3.5 - I've hidden the A*85/1.4 but he's not into portraiture so I don't think I have much to fear - for a while at least!! -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
On 31/10/12, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >Good for Stef. Is he done with school yet? Hi Bob, He has finished our equivalent of high school, and is now taking a year out before starting (hopefully) at London South Bank University doing a BA Hons in digital photography. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Reformation Day
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: >Damn, you beat me to it! > >:O Yeah, but it's funnier coming from a vegan! >From: Bob W >So whereas at Thanksgiving you sit down to a diet of Turkey, today do you >sit down to a Diet of Worms? -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
Well done! So, does this mean he'll let you use the old one? stan On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Hi team > > Stef is pretty stoked at the moment - he's just nabbed a mint in box 1D > mark II n to replace his original 1D clunker. Boxed, manuals, > accessories, amateur use (9600 actuations) all for 495 GBP which was a > little more than he wanted to pay but all the sub-400 GBP units out > there are beaters more or less. > > Hope all is well, especially to east-coast USAers. > > Cheers, > > Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Happy Reformation Day
Damn, you beat me to it! :O frank --- Original Message --- From: Bob W Sent: October 31, 2012 10/31/12 To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Subject: RE: OT: Happy Reformation Day So whereas at Thanksgiving you sit down to a diet of Turkey, today do you sit down to a Diet of Worms? B > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. > Matyola > > Thanks! > > Actually, most of us Lutherans at least in the US celebrate Reformation > Sunday on the last Sunday of October, but it is indeed the "proper" day > today. Go out and nail your grievances to a door someplace. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Collin Brendemuehl > wrote: > > Or for those who enjoy puns ... > > > > Happy Sola Fi-day! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Collin Brendemuehl > > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot > lose" > > -- Jim Elliott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Reformation Day
I'm going to go have a Diet of Worms... ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: October 31, 2012 10/31/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: OT: Happy Reformation Day Thanks! Actually, most of us Lutherans at least in the US celebrate Reformation Sunday on the last Sunday of October, but it is indeed the "proper" day today. Go out and nail your grievances to a door someplace. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Or for those who enjoy puns ... > > Happy Sola Fi-day! > > Sincerely, > > Collin Brendemuehl > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" > -- Jim Elliott > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - He's Ready
This group is at this intersection every weekend (right next to the Muslims, as I showed in an earlier photo) and what strikes me about them is that they are very negative, very "fire and brimstone" in their messages. I would have thought telling everyone how merciful and loving God is would attract more followers, but what do I know? Anyway, thanks for the comment, Paul and thanks to all who looked and commented. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: October 29, 2012 10/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - He's Ready A confused soul. Someone needs to help him find a cause. Fun pic, well done. Paul On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:09 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > The fellow on the left seems ready for something, but I'm not sure what: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/hes-ready.html > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > Cheers, > frank > > "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Horse Country
Fun candid snap. ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: October 29, 2012 10/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Horse Country http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16543033 Comments and criticisms are welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Country Gentleman
Terrific casual portrait. Btw, the glasses must stay! They look like a part of his personality. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: October 29, 2012 10/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Country Gentleman http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16543039 Comments are Welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aftermath
Good shot. The hoses make a great foreground. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > I love the tangle of hoses and the tree firefighters in three > different postures. I note that you managed to include a bicycle, of > course. > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com > wrote: >> As I mentioned earlier in another thread, Toronto got off easy with Sandy. >> >> There was one major fire downtown (don't know if it was storm related) that >> snarled traffic in the morning. >> >> After sitting on a bus for 15 minutes in traffic I got off and walked the >> last kilometre to the subway. Passed the fire scene and grabbed this one of >> the clean up: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/aftermath.html?m=0 >> >> Looks like they had a tough night. >> >> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> frank >> >> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
Nice On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Hi team > > Stef is pretty stoked at the moment - he's just nabbed a mint in box 1D > mark II n to replace his original 1D clunker. Boxed, manuals, > accessories, amateur use (9600 actuations) all for 495 GBP which was a > little more than he wanted to pay but all the sub-400 GBP units out > there are beaters more or less. > > Hope all is well, especially to east-coast USAers. > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
If anyone feels any need to inflict the misery of Pentax upon me from beyond the grave, by all means -- remember me in your will. I love old crap. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 9:20 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: It's difficult for me to conclude anything except that Pentax just does not have the capacity to produce anything more advanced. All the buyer gets is a few tweaks. Baby steps are not adequate in today's technology world. They needs a new partner -- someone larger than Ricoh -- who is interested in making the company into something great. Perhaps Apple or Google will buy the company and run with it right. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Well said, Larry. I passed up the K-7 in favor of the K-x because of its low > light capabilities and am absolutely ecstatic with the K-5. Maybe I'm just > too easy to please. Then again, I have a nearly 50 year history with Pentax > and can remember Kodachrome at ASA 12 and *High Speed* Ektachrome at ASA 160. > That makes getting a useable image at ISO 25000 pretty damn awesome. > > All the mental masturbation about where Pentax is going doesn't mean a lot > when they're still giving us the tools to get the job done. The time to fret > about it and start considering which new brand to buy is when they tools they > give you don't do the job you need them to do. As for the demise of Pentax, > Twain's quote probably applies..."The reports of my death have been greatly > exaggerated." > > -p A couple of automotive analogies occur to me. First of all, complaining that the K-5 isn't full frame is like complaining that the Corvette doesn't have a V12. It also seems to me that the folks who buy a DSLR based on its automatic features are like people who buy a sports car based on its automatic transmission. (Yes, John, I know) In many ways modern automatic transmissions will outperform even a good driver with a manual transmission, but if I really wanted to get my car around the track in the least amount of time, I'd hire a professional to race it for me. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Happy Reformation Day
So whereas at Thanksgiving you sit down to a diet of Turkey, today do you sit down to a Diet of Worms? B > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. > Matyola > > Thanks! > > Actually, most of us Lutherans at least in the US celebrate Reformation > Sunday on the last Sunday of October, but it is indeed the "proper" day > today. Go out and nail your grievances to a door someplace. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Collin Brendemuehl > wrote: > > Or for those who enjoy puns ... > > > > Happy Sola Fi-day! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Collin Brendemuehl > > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot > lose" > > -- Jim Elliott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
Well said, Larry. I passed up the K-7 in favor of the K-x because of its low light capabilities and am absolutely ecstatic with the K-5. Maybe I'm just too easy to please. Then again, I have a nearly 50 year history with Pentax and can remember Kodachrome at ASA 12 and *High Speed* Ektachrome at ASA 160. That makes getting a useable image at ISO 25000 pretty damn awesome. All the mental masturbation about where Pentax is going doesn't mean a lot when they're still giving us the tools to get the job done. The time to fret about it and start considering which new brand to buy is when they tools they give you don't do the job you need them to do. As for the demise of Pentax, Twain's quote probably applies..."The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." -p On 10/31/2012 1:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: It's difficult for me to conclude anything except that Pentax just does not have the capacity to produce anything more advanced. All the buyer gets is a few tweaks. Baby steps are not adequate in today's technology world. Colin, have you ever developed a new technology product from the initial "customer requirements" to shipping? How much time have you spent designing, writing and testing embedded firmware? As far as I can tell, Hoya cut back development to the absolute bare minimum to keep the company afloat and maximize short term profits, so it would seem that Ricoh has to pretty much start with a clean slate. Lets look at the K-5. When it comes to low light work, it is absofuckinglutely amazing. In some ways it is close to on par with a D700. The D800 increases the resolution over the D700, but for low light it's not a lot better. The Canon 5d3 is pretty amazing in low light, but either of those cameras cost two, nearly three times what a K-5 does. What was the K-5s one weakness in low light? Focus. And they seem to have addressed that issue. I'd love more, smaller, focus points, but that's a much bigger, time consuming, and expensive redesign. Yes, autofocus could be a bit quicker, there are improvements that could be made in auto exposure. So, if you are the sort of photographer than just wants to aim the camera and let it make all the decisions and do everything that requires any actual skill, then maybe Pentax isn't the brand for you. Maybe you'd be happier with a Canon point and shoot. They needs a new partner -- someone larger than Ricoh -- who is interested in making the company into something great. Perhaps Apple or Google will buy the company and run with it right. Oh sodomize me with a moldy corn dog, the last thing I want is a camera designed by Apple. Apple's forte is in designing pretty, fairly reliable consumer electronics that absolves the user of needing to put any thought whatsoever into using it. Apple products are extremely easy to use, if what you want to do is what Saint Steven of Cupertino thought somebody should want to do. This is great if you want your hand held throughout the process, but try to do something different, and you'll find it difficult when they won't let go of your hand. And, realistically, we, or at least most of us, aren't shooting film any more. We don't need to be able to instantly move any lens from the body loaded with pan-F to the body loaded with Kodachrome 64. And, realistically most people who own several lenses, after a few years also have a couple of camera bodies. You can own multiple systems and tune each, body and lenses, to what they do best at. For hand held low light dance photography, it's damn tough to beat a K-5 with a fast 30ish mm prime. Sure you could get a D800 with a 50/1.4, but you won't have image stabilization, and it'll cost you a damn sight more. If you're shooting video, or you need an insane birding or sports lens, then it seems Canon is the way to go. Why do people seem to forget that cameras are tools, not a religion? They aren't even spouse, you are allowed more than one at a time. Use the tool that does that particular job right, rather than trying to find something that does everything perfectly well. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Toine wrote: > A few weeks ago someone asked me this question after browsing my site: > > "Which camera do you use, either it must be canon or nikon? > which one - I think it's canon 600 D? > kindly let me know as I get one of those you have." > > My answer was 90% K10D, K20D and today the K5! Congratulations on the K5. I've seen several people complaining that the new K5-II isn't good enough, or better enough, which brings up a couple of questions. 1) How many of the people who are so disappointed by the performance of the K5-II that they are thinking of moving to another brand have spent any significant time shooting with a K5? 2) How many people who have spent a lot of time shooting with a K5 are seriously disappointed in it's performance? 2a) Of the people who are challenged by the K5 performance, how many of your complaints are addressed by the K5-II or IIs? i.e. low light focus, improved resolution? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
A few weeks ago someone asked me this question after browsing my site: "Which camera do you use, either it must be canon or nikon? which one - I think it's canon 600 D? kindly let me know as I get one of those you have." My answer was 90% K10D, K20D and today the K5! ROFL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > It's difficult for me to conclude anything except that Pentax > just does not have the capacity to produce anything more advanced. > All the buyer gets is a few tweaks. > Baby steps are not adequate in today's technology world. Colin, have you ever developed a new technology product from the initial "customer requirements" to shipping? How much time have you spent designing, writing and testing embedded firmware? As far as I can tell, Hoya cut back development to the absolute bare minimum to keep the company afloat and maximize short term profits, so it would seem that Ricoh has to pretty much start with a clean slate. Lets look at the K-5. When it comes to low light work, it is absofuckinglutely amazing. In some ways it is close to on par with a D700. The D800 increases the resolution over the D700, but for low light it's not a lot better. The Canon 5d3 is pretty amazing in low light, but either of those cameras cost two, nearly three times what a K-5 does. What was the K-5s one weakness in low light? Focus. And they seem to have addressed that issue. I'd love more, smaller, focus points, but that's a much bigger, time consuming, and expensive redesign. Yes, autofocus could be a bit quicker, there are improvements that could be made in auto exposure. So, if you are the sort of photographer than just wants to aim the camera and let it make all the decisions and do everything that requires any actual skill, then maybe Pentax isn't the brand for you. Maybe you'd be happier with a Canon point and shoot. > > They needs a new partner -- someone larger than Ricoh -- who is > interested in making the company into something great. > Perhaps Apple or Google will buy the company and run with it right. Oh sodomize me with a moldy corn dog, the last thing I want is a camera designed by Apple. Apple's forte is in designing pretty, fairly reliable consumer electronics that absolves the user of needing to put any thought whatsoever into using it. Apple products are extremely easy to use, if what you want to do is what Saint Steven of Cupertino thought somebody should want to do. This is great if you want your hand held throughout the process, but try to do something different, and you'll find it difficult when they won't let go of your hand. And, realistically, we, or at least most of us, aren't shooting film any more. We don't need to be able to instantly move any lens from the body loaded with pan-F to the body loaded with Kodachrome 64. And, realistically most people who own several lenses, after a few years also have a couple of camera bodies. You can own multiple systems and tune each, body and lenses, to what they do best at. For hand held low light dance photography, it's damn tough to beat a K-5 with a fast 30ish mm prime. Sure you could get a D800 with a 50/1.4, but you won't have image stabilization, and it'll cost you a damn sight more. If you're shooting video, or you need an insane birding or sports lens, then it seems Canon is the way to go. Why do people seem to forget that cameras are tools, not a religion? They aren't even spouse, you are allowed more than one at a time. Use the tool that does that particular job right, rather than trying to find something that does everything perfectly well. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Film Humor
Groan. ;-) On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-bar-drinks-clipart.jpg > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
And those core values are? The K5 is an excellent camera for the price. The K30 is probably even better in terms of "per dollar". Weather sealed and most of the K5 IQ with better AF. We are the ones thta have changed. We all harken back tot he days when Pentax released a new body every 5 years but now complain about the 2 year old K5. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Mark Roberts > > >> I don't understand the fuss. Even the notoriously >> "lukewarm-about-Pentax" DP Review described the K-5 as "arguably the >> best" of the APS-C cameras. The new models represent worthwhile >> improvements over the K-5. True, the upper-level "prosumer" market >> (where Pentax top-of-the-line DSLRs have traditionally resided) is >> moving toward full-frame, but there's no reason to doubt that Pentax >> will get there. >> >> I'm so pleased with the results I get from my K-5 that I have no >> desire at all to upgrade to either version of the new K-5II. > > > From my perspective, as good as the K-7 & K-5 were, they just didn't > offer enough improvement over the K10D to justify the expense. I did > eventually find a second-hand K20D at a low enough price to justify > buying it and relegating my *ist-D to the closet & letting the K10D > become my backup. > > At this point, the K-5II just looks like Pentax is running in place. > > The value:cost ratio still isn't there for me. > > I originally chose Pentax because of the high ratio of value for the > dollar it offered. To me, it appears that value:cost ratio has been > eroding ever since the MZ-D. Pentax needs to find their direction and > return to the core values that made the brand my choice. > > And they need to do it damn soon. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > I don't understand the fuss. Even the notoriously > "lukewarm-about-Pentax" DP Review described the K-5 as "arguably the > best" of the APS-C cameras. The new models represent worthwhile > improvements over the K-5. True, the upper-level "prosumer" market > (where Pentax top-of-the-line DSLRs have traditionally resided) is > moving toward full-frame, but there's no reason to doubt that Pentax > will get there. > > I'm so pleased with the results I get from my K-5 that I have no > desire at all to upgrade to either version of the new K-5II. Although I may purchase a K-5IIs as backup to my K-5, I agree with Mark's analysis of the K-5's capabilities and am equally dumbfounded by the discontent expressed here. I believe I mentioned previously that the art directors who labor over covers for Harris Publications 75 newsstand magazine titles wanted to know what camera and lens I was using. (The lens was the DA* 60-250 of course.) They said my images are sharper and more detailed than the vast majority of the work they see, much of which is shot with full frame cameras from the biggies. The photo desk at The New York Times has been very complimentary as well, and I've never seen a Times stringer without a full-frame Nikon or Canon. I take no credit for the sharpness and detail. That's almost exclusively a matter of equipment. Can't wait to show them some pics from the K-5IIs. Of course we all know the camera is crap. It's a Pentax. Paul > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
Nice find. Does Dad share lenses? On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Good for Stef. Is he done with school yet? > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> Hi team >> >> Stef is pretty stoked at the moment - he's just nabbed a mint in box 1D >> mark II n to replace his original 1D clunker. Boxed, manuals, >> accessories, amateur use (9600 actuations) all for 495 GBP which was a >> little more than he wanted to pay but all the sub-400 GBP units out >> there are beaters more or less. >> >> Hope all is well, especially to east-coast USAers. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Cotty >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
From: Mark Roberts I don't understand the fuss. Even the notoriously "lukewarm-about-Pentax" DP Review described the K-5 as "arguably the best" of the APS-C cameras. The new models represent worthwhile improvements over the K-5. True, the upper-level "prosumer" market (where Pentax top-of-the-line DSLRs have traditionally resided) is moving toward full-frame, but there's no reason to doubt that Pentax will get there. I'm so pleased with the results I get from my K-5 that I have no desire at all to upgrade to either version of the new K-5II. From my perspective, as good as the K-7 & K-5 were, they just didn't offer enough improvement over the K10D to justify the expense. I did eventually find a second-hand K20D at a low enough price to justify buying it and relegating my *ist-D to the closet & letting the K10D become my backup. At this point, the K-5II just looks like Pentax is running in place. The value:cost ratio still isn't there for me. I originally chose Pentax because of the high ratio of value for the dollar it offered. To me, it appears that value:cost ratio has been eroding ever since the MZ-D. Pentax needs to find their direction and return to the core values that made the brand my choice. And they need to do it damn soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths'
Was the seal image also yours? How about the whale tail? Yes to both. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths' Was the seal image also yours? How about the whale tail? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:06 PM, wrote: Thanks Dan. Its the same as I PESO'ed awhile back. I've submitted 2 similar images of this process - one with bird & one without. My Alaskan trip has yielded a high percentage of keeper images that have been getting an extremely good reception on the PPG & here for that matter. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths' Ken: I think I just saw this on the PPG, although the title was slightly different. In any event, it was a great shot, and I voted for it and a couple of other images that I think came out of your same gallery. That was a wonderful group of images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM, wrote: A group of Humpback whales at the end of the bubble netting process enjoying the fruits of their efforts - herring. K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - handheld from a ship. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535575 comments appreciated - thanks in advance Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - 1DmIIn
Good for Stef. Is he done with school yet? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Hi team > > Stef is pretty stoked at the moment - he's just nabbed a mint in box 1D > mark II n to replace his original 1D clunker. Boxed, manuals, > accessories, amateur use (9600 actuations) all for 495 GBP which was a > little more than he wanted to pay but all the sub-400 GBP units out > there are beaters more or less. > > Hope all is well, especially to east-coast USAers. > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths'
Was the seal image also yours? How about the whale tail? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:06 PM, wrote: > Thanks Dan. > Its the same as I PESO'ed awhile back. I've submitted 2 similar images of > this process - one with bird & one without. > > My Alaskan trip has yielded a high percentage of keeper images that have > been getting an extremely good reception on the PPG & here for that matter. > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > > Subject: Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths' > > >> Ken: >> >> I think I just saw this on the PPG, although the title was slightly >> different. In any event, it was a great shot, and I voted for it and >> a couple of other images that I think came out of your same gallery. >> That was a wonderful group of images. >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM, wrote: >>> >>> A group of Humpback whales at the end of the bubble netting process >>> enjoying >>> the fruits of their efforts - herring. >>> K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - handheld from a ship. >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535575 >>> >>> comments appreciated - thanks in advance >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths'
Thanks Dan. Its the same as I PESO'ed awhile back. I've submitted 2 similar images of this process - one with bird & one without. My Alaskan trip has yielded a high percentage of keeper images that have been getting an extremely good reception on the PPG & here for that matter. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths' Ken: I think I just saw this on the PPG, although the title was slightly different. In any event, it was a great shot, and I voted for it and a couple of other images that I think came out of your same gallery. That was a wonderful group of images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM, wrote: A group of Humpback whales at the end of the bubble netting process enjoying the fruits of their efforts - herring. K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - handheld from a ship. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535575 comments appreciated - thanks in advance Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
unLimited lenses
Yet another philosophical thought... "Limited" is a frequent label for various items with presumed exceptional quality (or just produced in small batches)... Pentax has several "Limited" lenses. I am surprised why Pentax (or somebody else) wouldn't mark one lens (or a family of lenses) "unlimited". That would've been a nice marketing slogan... I wonder if anybody tried to use this idea in the past in other segments of the market. (I am not talking about "unlimited bandwidth" or other similar measurable services, - I am talking about merchandise/gadgets/devices...) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
Reading the specs on the newly introduced K-5II and IIs gave me relief and comfort with my K-5. Only mildly curious about ISO related AF speeds. Have read that the user should detect no noticeable difference in "normal" light. Jack - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ... I don't understand the fuss. Even the notoriously "lukewarm-about-Pentax" DP Review described the K-5 as "arguably the best" of the APS-C cameras. The new models represent worthwhile improvements over the K-5. True, the upper-level "prosumer" market (where Pentax top-of-the-line DSLRs have traditionally resided) is moving toward full-frame, but there's no reason to doubt that Pentax will get there. I'm so pleased with the results I get from my K-5 that I have no desire at all to upgrade to either version of the new K-5II. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia http://www.robertstech.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
I don't think Nikon and Canon does it any better. EOS 7D has not been replaced, but has received a firmware update to sweeten the pill. Nikon D300s is certainly lagging behind and both Nikon and Canon is more or less forcing customer to upgrade camera and lenses to the more expensive 24x36mm system. I still think K-5 and K-5 II is the best aps-c system on the market today. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:59 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ... >God, I hope not. iPentax *would* be enough to make me jump ship. Perhaps I am being too pessimistic. But right now they appear sooo far behind ... And I agree on the iPentax. My car is called "Grace" -- my camera could be called Andrew? Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Wet Web
From: Steven Desjardins In retrospect, I should have removed that stalk across the bottom. Especially since it's my ivy. Don't fret. Doing so probably would have knocked down the web & you wouldn't have gotten the photo at all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
I don't understand the fuss. Even the notoriously "lukewarm-about-Pentax" DP Review described the K-5 as "arguably the best" of the APS-C cameras. The new models represent worthwhile improvements over the K-5. True, the upper-level "prosumer" market (where Pentax top-of-the-line DSLRs have traditionally resided) is moving toward full-frame, but there's no reason to doubt that Pentax will get there. I'm so pleased with the results I get from my K-5 that I have no desire at all to upgrade to either version of the new K-5II. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'Hungry Mouths'
Ken: I think I just saw this on the PPG, although the title was slightly different. In any event, it was a great shot, and I voted for it and a couple of other images that I think came out of your same gallery. That was a wonderful group of images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM, wrote: > A group of Humpback whales at the end of the bubble netting process enjoying > the fruits of their efforts - herring. > K20D, 300mm f4.5 FA - handheld from a ship. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535575 > > comments appreciated - thanks in advance > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - 1DmIIn
Hi team Stef is pretty stoked at the moment - he's just nabbed a mint in box 1D mark II n to replace his original 1D clunker. Boxed, manuals, accessories, amateur use (9600 actuations) all for 495 GBP which was a little more than he wanted to pay but all the sub-400 GBP units out there are beaters more or less. Hope all is well, especially to east-coast USAers. Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bramble Stump
Thanks, Don. The barbed wire is the only man made element in the scene and, in that respect, it did give me slight pause as whether or not to include it. Am providing a link to my previously referenced B&W version in which I excluded the lower area. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=653 0...@gmail.com> To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Bramble Stump Nice isolation photo, Jack. I am not sure whether the barb wire adds tension or the crossing lines draw my attention away. I can see where this photo could work in B&W also. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:21:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jack Davis > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESO: Bramble Stump > Message-ID: > <1351639291.81296.yahoomail...@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Wife and I took a lower Sierra foothill drive this PM looking for signs of > fall. Came across the linked scene which I'd shot 'prox 2 yrs ago. At that > time it was very early in the day and the sun was just skimming the bark > which brought out?its fine grain detail. It was about 1:00 PM PDT when I took > this and it,obviously, is a completely different look. > ? > C&C invited of course. > ? > Jack > ? > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=652 > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
From: "Collin Brendemuehl" It's difficult for me to conclude anything except that Pentax just does not have the capacity to produce anything more advanced. All the buyer gets is a few tweaks. Baby steps are not adequate in today's technology world. They needs a new partner -- someone larger than Ricoh -- who is interested in making the company into something great. Perhaps Apple or Google will buy the company and run with it right. God, I hope not. iPentax *would* be enough to make me jump ship. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Wet Web
Tis' pretty and would be a shame to miss photo for lack of a camera hence the usefulness of Qs and Pens etc. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: From: Steven Desjardins Sent: October 30, 2012 10/30/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Peso: Wet Web A pretty post-Sandy detail, and the Q was handy: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-jrmt2vz/0/XL/wet-web-XL.jpg -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bramble Stump
Nice isolation photo, Jack. I am not sure whether the barb wire adds tension or the crossing lines draw my attention away. I can see where this photo could work in B&W also. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 8 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:21:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jack Davis To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Bramble Stump Message-ID: <1351639291.81296.yahoomail...@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Wife and I took a lower Sierra foothill drive this PM looking for signs of fall. Came across the linked scene which I'd shot 'prox 2 yrs ago. At that time it was very early in the day and the sun was just skimming the bark which brought out?its fine grain detail. It was about 1:00 PM PDT when I took this and it,obviously, is a completely different look. ? C&C invited of course. ? Jack ? http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=652 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Golden Fleece
Thank you, Dan! I'm going take a few more whacks at the subject and see what comes up. I think it has lots of potential. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 9:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Great color, great lines, great image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Walt wrote: I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Wet Web
I really don't mind the "stalk." What are the water droplets adhering to.? Spider web? Reflections appear to suggest a sheet of poly.(??) Jack - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Peso: Wet Web In retrospect, I should have removed that stalk across the bottom. Especially since it's my ivy. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > That is a jewel of an image. > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> A pretty post-Sandy detail, and the Q was handy: >> >> http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-jrmt2vz/0/XL/wet-web-XL.jpg >> -- >> Steve Desjardins >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bramble Stump
Generous comments, Dan. Thanks! Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Bramble Stump Wonderful color and textures. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Wife and I took a lower Sierra foothill drive this PM looking for signs of > fall. Came across the linked scene which I'd shot 'prox 2 yrs ago. At that > time it was very early in the day and the sun was just skimming the bark > which brought out its fine grain detail. It was about 1:00 PM PDT when I > took this and it,obviously, is a completely different look. > > C&C invited of course. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=652 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
Pentax/Ricoh is probably working on a FF body. They will never be as fast as Nikon or Canon, and Apple/Google would just absorb them. I really think that Ricoh is the best we could have hoped for in that they actually want to make cameras. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Collin Brendemuehl > wrote: >> It's difficult for me to conclude anything except that Pentax >> just does not have the capacity to produce anything more advanced. >> All the buyer gets is a few tweaks. >> Baby steps are not adequate in today's technology world. >> >> They needs a new partner -- someone larger than Ricoh -- who is >> interested in making the company into something great. >> Perhaps Apple or Google will buy the company and run with it right. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Collin Brendemuehl > > Such conclusions are premature; the product we saw so far (from > October 2011) are "Pentax-Hoya" projects. There simply wasn't enough > time (less than a year, including analyzing the business and > formulating a plan) to build a "true" Pentax Ricoh camera. What they > could do was to finish products already in pipeline, including ones > frozen by Hoya (the DA 560mm for example). > Please be patient, next year we should see more interesting stuff. > > I also strongly believe that either Apple or Google would kill Pentax; > photography and gadgets/web content are too different for it to work. > Don't worry, Ricoh will prove to be a good "master". > > -- > Best regards, > Alex Sarbu > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Reformation Day
>< ><"proper" day today. Go out and nail your grievances to a door >< >
Re: Peso: Wet Web
In retrospect, I should have removed that stalk across the bottom. Especially since it's my ivy. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > That is a jewel of an image. > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> A pretty post-Sandy detail, and the Q was handy: >> >> http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-jrmt2vz/0/XL/wet-web-XL.jpg >> -- >> Steve Desjardins >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends
But Das Boot is pronounced like "das boat." Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Das Boot is a movie, though... > > On 9/18/2012 4:41 PM, David J Brooks wrote: >> >> Thats aboot it >> >> Dave >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola >> wrote: >>> >>> http://themetapicture.com/canadian-investigators/ >>> Dan Matyola >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise
Wow! a classic image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Tom C wrote: > Taken over the Columbus Day weekend from the Paradise trail at Mt. > Rainier National Park. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16555015&size=lg > > Tom C. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Wet Web
That is a jewel of an image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > A pretty post-Sandy detail, and the Q was handy: > > http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-jrmt2vz/0/XL/wet-web-XL.jpg > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Reformation Day
Thanks! Actually, most of us Lutherans at least in the US celebrate Reformation Sunday on the last Sunday of October, but it is indeed the "proper" day today. Go out and nail your grievances to a door someplace. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Or for those who enjoy puns ... > > Happy Sola Fi-day! > > Sincerely, > > Collin Brendemuehl > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" > -- Jim Elliott > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aftermath
I love the tangle of hoses and the tree firefighters in three different postures. I note that you managed to include a bicycle, of course. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > As I mentioned earlier in another thread, Toronto got off easy with Sandy. > > There was one major fire downtown (don't know if it was storm related) that > snarled traffic in the morning. > > After sitting on a bus for 15 minutes in traffic I got off and walked the > last kilometre to the subway. Passed the fire scene and grabbed this one of > the clean up: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/aftermath.html?m=0 > > Looks like they had a tough night. > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > Cheers, > frank > > "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Golden Fleece
Great color, great lines, great image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Walt wrote: > I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my > neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown > yesterday. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ > K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 > > Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > It's difficult for me to conclude anything except that Pentax > just does not have the capacity to produce anything more advanced. > All the buyer gets is a few tweaks. > Baby steps are not adequate in today's technology world. > > They needs a new partner -- someone larger than Ricoh -- who is > interested in making the company into something great. > Perhaps Apple or Google will buy the company and run with it right. > > Sincerely, > > Collin Brendemuehl Such conclusions are premature; the product we saw so far (from October 2011) are "Pentax-Hoya" projects. There simply wasn't enough time (less than a year, including analyzing the business and formulating a plan) to build a "true" Pentax Ricoh camera. What they could do was to finish products already in pipeline, including ones frozen by Hoya (the DA 560mm for example). Please be patient, next year we should see more interesting stuff. I also strongly believe that either Apple or Google would kill Pentax; photography and gadgets/web content are too different for it to work. Don't worry, Ricoh will prove to be a good "master". -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bramble Stump
Wonderful color and textures. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Wife and I took a lower Sierra foothill drive this PM looking for signs of > fall. Came across the linked scene which I'd shot 'prox 2 yrs ago. At that > time it was very early in the day and the sun was just skimming the bark > which brought out its fine grain detail. It was about 1:00 PM PDT when I > took this and it,obviously, is a completely different look. > > C&C invited of course. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=652 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Happy Reformation Day
Or for those who enjoy puns ... Happy Sola Fi-day! Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aftermath
Nicely seen and shot Dave On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > As I mentioned earlier in another thread, Toronto got off easy with Sandy. > > There was one major fire downtown (don't know if it was storm related) that > snarled traffic in the morning. > > After sitting on a bus for 15 minutes in traffic I got off and walked the > last kilometre to the subway. Passed the fire scene and grabbed this one of > the clean up: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/aftermath.html?m=0 > > Looks like they had a tough night. > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > Cheers, > frank > > "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Golden Fleece
Thank you, Frank! I'd been eyeballing that grass for a few weeks thinking it would look nice under the right light. I just hadn't been able to catch it until a couple of days ago when I was waiting outside for a friend to drop by. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 7:45 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That light is lovely! Beautiful image, Walt. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: October 30, 2012 10/30/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Golden Fleece
I've found it pretty useful as a close-quarters zoom for casual portraits and have found it to be much sharper than my Sigma 24-70 f/3.5-5.6. I've never used a 28-135/4, but that extra bit of focal range does sound attractive -- especially if you don't mind the extra heft. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 7:14 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: that's interesting, I dont think I have ever used or owned a 35-135mm lens. I do have a smc-a 28-135/4. guess that's close enough. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece I used my SMC F 35-135 f/3.5-4.5 It's a great, versatile lens and I use it pretty regularly, but just isn't /quite/ as sharp as a prime, obviously. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 6:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: what lens DID you use? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece Thank you, Steven! I wish I'd had an FA 50/1.4 to shoot it with. Maybe someday. :) -- Walt On 10/30/2012 4:19 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Very nice. I don't mind the bright spot at all. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks, Kenneth. Unfortunately, my composition options were pretty limited in that every other angle had some kind of distracting structure as a backdrop -- homes, garages, car ports, highway, utility poles, etc. -- Walt On 10/30/2012 3:21 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate placement of the bright background. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso: not a good day for bikes
Love the colours! Glad to hear you're safe, Ann. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Ann Sanfedele Sent: October 29, 2012 10/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Peso: not a good day for bikes not very exciting, but a 10 minute excursion out this afternoon on my street got me this http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2183107870_PVLprp8/Large Cabin fever has commenced ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Golden Fleece
That light is lovely! Beautiful image, Walt. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: October 30, 2012 10/30/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Golden Fleece
that's interesting, I dont think I have ever used or owned a 35-135mm lens. I do have a smc-a 28-135/4. guess that's close enough. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece I used my SMC F 35-135 f/3.5-4.5 It's a great, versatile lens and I use it pretty regularly, but just isn't /quite/ as sharp as a prime, obviously. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 6:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > what lens DID you use? > > - > J.C.O'Connell > hifis...@gate.net > - > > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:09 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Golden Fleece > > Thank you, Steven! > > I wish I'd had an FA 50/1.4 to shoot it with. Maybe someday. :) > > -- Walt > > On 10/30/2012 4:19 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> Very nice. I don't mind the bright spot at all. >> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Walt wrote: >>> Thanks, Kenneth. >>> >>> Unfortunately, my composition options were pretty limited in that every >>> other angle had some kind of distracting structure as a backdrop -- > homes, >>> garages, car ports, highway, utility poles, etc. >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/30/2012 3:21 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate > placement of the bright background. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece > I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my > neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown > yesterday. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ > K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 > > Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. > > -- Walt >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bramble Stump
Thanks much, Frank. Jack - Original Message - From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" To: ""Pentax-Discuss Mail List"" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: RE: PESO: Bramble Stump Nice composition. And I love that deep blue sky. The old wire fence really adds to this one. I like it! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Jack Davis Sent: October 30, 2012 10/30/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Bramble Stump Wife and I took a lower Sierra foothill drive this PM looking for signs of fall. Came across the linked scene which I'd shot 'prox 2 yrs ago. At that time it was very early in the day and the sun was just skimming the bark which brought out its fine grain detail. It was about 1:00 PM PDT when I took this and it,obviously, is a completely different look. C&C invited of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=652 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Golden Fleece
sharp enuff to get the job done... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece I used my SMC F 35-135 f/3.5-4.5 It's a great, versatile lens and I use it pretty regularly, but just isn't /quite/ as sharp as a prime, obviously. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 6:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > what lens DID you use? > > - > J.C.O'Connell > hifis...@gate.net > - > > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:09 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Golden Fleece > > Thank you, Steven! > > I wish I'd had an FA 50/1.4 to shoot it with. Maybe someday. :) > > -- Walt > > On 10/30/2012 4:19 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> Very nice. I don't mind the bright spot at all. >> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Walt wrote: >>> Thanks, Kenneth. >>> >>> Unfortunately, my composition options were pretty limited in that every >>> other angle had some kind of distracting structure as a backdrop -- > homes, >>> garages, car ports, highway, utility poles, etc. >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/30/2012 3:21 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate > placement of the bright background. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece > I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my > neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown > yesterday. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ > K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 > > Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. > > -- Walt >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Golden Fleece
I used my SMC F 35-135 f/3.5-4.5 It's a great, versatile lens and I use it pretty regularly, but just isn't /quite/ as sharp as a prime, obviously. -- Walt On 10/31/2012 6:32 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: what lens DID you use? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece Thank you, Steven! I wish I'd had an FA 50/1.4 to shoot it with. Maybe someday. :) -- Walt On 10/30/2012 4:19 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Very nice. I don't mind the bright spot at all. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks, Kenneth. Unfortunately, my composition options were pretty limited in that every other angle had some kind of distracting structure as a backdrop -- homes, garages, car ports, highway, utility poles, etc. -- Walt On 10/30/2012 3:21 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate placement of the bright background. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5IIs review and comparison to K-5
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > > Nah, if I upgrade it has to be another system, Pentax are just falling > further and further behind the competition with each incarnation. It's > a pity really. Save for the hassle and cost of going through the big > sell-off and re-buying everything I would have left the brand some > years ago. I just put in my Lotto and hope these days. > With Pentax finally freed from Hoya's shackles, I wonder if it's indeed a good time to jump ship... unless you need something "better", now. Anyway, I don't think Pentax is "falling further and further behind the competition" - the K-30 and the K-5 II(s) are solid products and, for example, Nikon still didn't replaced the D300s. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Golden Fleece
what lens DID you use? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece Thank you, Steven! I wish I'd had an FA 50/1.4 to shoot it with. Maybe someday. :) -- Walt On 10/30/2012 4:19 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Very nice. I don't mind the bright spot at all. > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Walt wrote: >> Thanks, Kenneth. >> >> Unfortunately, my composition options were pretty limited in that every >> other angle had some kind of distracting structure as a backdrop -- homes, >> garages, car ports, highway, utility poles, etc. >> >> -- Walt >> >> >> >> On 10/30/2012 3:21 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: >>> Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate placement >>> of the bright background. >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Walt" >>> Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece >>> >>> I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt >>> >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Golden Fleece
I do believe you're right. It looks a lot like the grass in the image. -- Walt On 10/30/2012 10:09 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Pampas Grass, I believe. http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/images/pampas3.jpg Other colors shown if you google it. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:06 , Bruce Walker wrote: Beautiful, Walt. Very graceful. I'm pretty sure that's a decorative grass. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Walt wrote: I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Golden Fleece
Thank you, Steven! I wish I'd had an FA 50/1.4 to shoot it with. Maybe someday. :) -- Walt On 10/30/2012 4:19 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Very nice. I don't mind the bright spot at all. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks, Kenneth. Unfortunately, my composition options were pretty limited in that every other angle had some kind of distracting structure as a backdrop -- homes, garages, car ports, highway, utility poles, etc. -- Walt On 10/30/2012 3:21 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate placement of the bright background. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Golden Fleece
Thanks, J.C. I suppose a darker background would've helped isolate the subject, but I had to work with what I had, and figure it could've been worse. :) On 10/30/2012 3:22 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: nice, I like the background... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Golden Fleece Walt, a very nice capture seriously lessened by the unfortunate placement of the bright background. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Golden Fleece
Thanks, Frank! :) On 10/30/2012 10:26 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful! Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: October 30, 2012 10/30/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Golden Fleece I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown yesterday. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8139189246/ K20D, F 35-135, f/5.6, 1/500 sec, ISO 200 Thoughts, comments and suggestions eagerly solicited as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
