Re: CibaChrome is dead.
That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
I miss the thrill of seeing a cibachrome print, but it was a very taxing project in a home darkroom. On a simple enlarger, one had to guess at an initial filter pack. Then processing the print required 30 minutes of rolling the drum back and forth by hand. Then came an analysis of the color, adjustment of the filter pack, and another 30 minutes of rolling the drum. Making a single satisfactory print was a two to three hour project. Paul On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: When I went to China in 2010, I took all of the film I was carrying out of the plastic canisters put the bare cartridges into a zip-lock bag. I put the empty canisters into another zip-lock stored it in my checked bag. I kept the bag of film cartridges in my coat pocket while going through customs security, pulling it out when necessary to request hand inspection. I guess it would depend on where you are, before 9/11 we can do that--request for hand inspection--but since then everything has to go to the x-ray machine. Bong -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Ian McLagan
The wife and I took in a free show on Thursday while visiting Austin, TX. Ian McLagan is a keyboardist who use to play with The Faces, as well as doing some work with The Rolling Stones. He lives in the Austin area now and does regular Thursday-night shows for free (!!). Fun, funny and entertaining guy. With the K5, I was able to shoot in relative darkness, at almost-full-zoom, with the 50-200 kit lens and STILL get relatively decent results (I hadn't brought my concert lenses with me). Not bad for ISO6400. I'm very very pleased with this camera. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/austin/content/K5__4303_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ian McLagan
Good stuff, Charles. I'm still impressed by the quality of the kit lenses, as you've demonstrated here. Doubt I'll ever sell 'em. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: The wife and I took in a free show on Thursday while visiting Austin, TX. Ian McLagan is a keyboardist who use to play with The Faces, as well as doing some work with The Rolling Stones. He lives in the Austin area now and does regular Thursday-night shows for free (!!). Fun, funny and entertaining guy. With the K5, I was able to shoot in relative darkness, at almost-full-zoom, with the 50-200 kit lens and STILL get relatively decent results (I hadn't brought my concert lenses with me). Not bad for ISO6400. I'm very very pleased with this camera. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/austin/content/K5__4303_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ian McLagan
Nice capture, I especially like the lighting. -Original Message- From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: PESO: Ian McLagan The wife and I took in a free show on Thursday while visiting Austin, TX. Ian McLagan is a keyboardist who use to play with The Faces, as well as doing some work with The Rolling Stones. He lives in the Austin area now and does regular Thursday-night shows for free (!!). Fun, funny and entertaining guy. With the K5, I was able to shoot in relative darkness, at almost-full-zoom, with the 50-200 kit lens and STILL get relatively decent results (I hadn't brought my concert lenses with me). Not bad for ISO6400. I'm very very pleased with this camera. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/austin/content/K5__4303_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ian McLagan
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote: With the K5, I was able to shoot in relative darkness, at almost-full-zoom, with the 50-200 kit lens and STILL get relatively decent results (I hadn't brought my concert lenses with me). Not bad for ISO6400. I'm very very pleased with this camera. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/austin/content/K5__4303_large.html I'm impressed with the handheld 1/25 @ 150! Very sharp. What are you using to create your galleries? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'Red Bumper
You pulled off the illusion nicely making a rather eye-catching photo. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 11 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:41:16 -0500 From:kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: 'Red Bumper Message-ID: CE2781BCA2A744E4BD5709F6D822F32E@kena60ebc3b689 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Captured harborside in Petersburg, Alaska, a boat bumper on a commercial fisher. - K20D, 28-80mm SMC F, 1/2000 @ f8, 400 ISO. Thanks in advance for comments/critiques. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16887092 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
When I printed Cibachrome it was at college, (University for those in other English speaking lands), at the student run Photography co-op. We had invested in an electrically driven agitator for processing E-6 which was replacing at the time E-4 which was really just too toxic for a darkroom primarily run by student volunteers. The agitator made processing the Cibachrome so much easier. It made processing the E-6 less tedious as well. On 2/12/2013 4:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I miss the thrill of seeing a cibachrome print, but it was a very taxing project in a home darkroom. On a simple enlarger, one had to guess at an initial filter pack. Then processing the print required 30 minutes of rolling the drum back and forth by hand. Then came an analysis of the color, adjustment of the filter pack, and another 30 minutes of rolling the drum. Making a single satisfactory print was a two to three hour project. Paul On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ian McLagan
On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:29 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote: With the K5, I was able to shoot in relative darkness, at almost-full-zoom, with the 50-200 kit lens and STILL get relatively decent results (I hadn't brought my concert lenses with me). Not bad for ISO6400. I'm very very pleased with this camera. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/austin/content/K5__4303_large.html I'm impressed with the handheld 1/25 @ 150! Very sharp. MOSTLY sharp. It does not stand up to strong inspection. What are you using to create your galleries? Lightroom 4. Don't leave home without it. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)
I think I saw this information mentioned elsewhere previously: http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2355497650/photographer-50-weddings-one-day First, this guy is going to shoot 50 weddings in 1 day, whatever that means... But it cannot really mean a complete wedding coverage, does it? Maybe just the 5-10-minute civil ceremony... or, conversely, just a few shots of the couple and the family (analogous to photo with the Santa at a shopping mall). Second, he is going to do with an iPhone. While this publicity stunt might be a fun project, I feel some bit discomfort about it. (Despite the humanitarian effort it supports.) Yes, those people photographed will be happy to get a photo if otherwise they wouldn't have gotten any. But there a wrong message here. I am not a photo-equipment snob. And, yes, one can take great wedding photos using the disposable camera left on the table. But... ... (a) it is more challenging and (b) you cannot get an adequate full coverage shoot with those. This story sets up a trap for equivocation and redifinition fallacy (implicit here, but explicit in the potential folowups/conclusions) by using shooting 50 weddings in a different sense from what is commongly assumed. Once somebody sees this article, he/she can assume: it is OK to do usual (i.e. full coverage and/or posed studio/location session ) wedding photography with any equipment available since some famous photographer does that. Besides, the photographer himself (and/or the journalist?) commits several fallacies in these quotations: According to Kuster, this DSLR photo doesn't reveal as much of the subject's personality as the iPhone portrait (left). Kuster believes that iPhone photography allows portrait subjects to let their guard down becuase they are not looking at an intimidating DSLR. First, this assumes that if one DSLR photo doesn't do the job right, DSLRs are not suitable. (Mind that he uses wide-angle lens in that which provides a bit of a non-serious if not comic effect.) Second, if this assumes that if one photo taken with iPhone is good, automatically, all photos taken with an iPhone are better than those taken with a DSLR. Third, it assumes that there is nothing in between (PS, range-finders, ...) that can reduce initimidation (which may or may not be the predominant factor), while providing more options than an iPhone can. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this story. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ian McLagan
Very impressive. Ambiance and expression well captured. I only wish I could hear the music. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 8 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:01:35 -0600 From: Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Ian McLagan Message-ID:f3c3e9b4-db0d-4cd1-befa-1df70caa1...@visi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The wife and I took in a free show on Thursday while visiting Austin, TX. Ian McLagan is a keyboardist who use to play with The Faces, as well as doing some work with The Rolling Stones. He lives in the Austin area now and does regular Thursday-night shows for free (!!). Fun, funny and entertaining guy. With the K5, I was able to shoot in relative darkness, at almost-full-zoom, with the 50-200 kit lens and STILL get relatively decent results (I hadn't brought my concert lenses with me). Not bad for ISO6400. I'm very very pleased with this camera. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/austin/content/K5__4303_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson -charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)
Igor, Have you seen the Instagram video on U-tube? They are all f-ing Michael Angelos creating a new visual literacy in the great unwashed peoples of earth.. Iphones for everyone! Clean cups too! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I think I saw this information mentioned elsewhere previously: http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2355497650/photographer-50-weddings-one-day First, this guy is going to shoot 50 weddings in 1 day, whatever that means... But it cannot really mean a complete wedding coverage, does it? Maybe just the 5-10-minute civil ceremony... or, conversely, just a few shots of the couple and the family (analogous to photo with the Santa at a shopping mall). Second, he is going to do with an iPhone. While this publicity stunt might be a fun project, I feel some bit discomfort about it. (Despite the humanitarian effort it supports.) Yes, those people photographed will be happy to get a photo if otherwise they wouldn't have gotten any. But there a wrong message here. I am not a photo-equipment snob. And, yes, one can take great wedding photos using the disposable camera left on the table. But... ... (a) it is more challenging and (b) you cannot get an adequate full coverage shoot with those. This story sets up a trap for equivocation and redifinition fallacy (implicit here, but explicit in the potential folowups/conclusions) by using shooting 50 weddings in a different sense from what is commongly assumed. Once somebody sees this article, he/she can assume: it is OK to do usual (i.e. full coverage and/or posed studio/location session ) wedding photography with any equipment available since some famous photographer does that. Besides, the photographer himself (and/or the journalist?) commits several fallacies in these quotations: According to Kuster, this DSLR photo doesn't reveal as much of the subject's personality as the iPhone portrait (left). Kuster believes that iPhone photography allows portrait subjects to let their guard down becuase they are not looking at an intimidating DSLR. First, this assumes that if one DSLR photo doesn't do the job right, DSLRs are not suitable. (Mind that he uses wide-angle lens in that which provides a bit of a non-serious if not comic effect.) Second, if this assumes that if one photo taken with iPhone is good, automatically, all photos taken with an iPhone are better than those taken with a DSLR. Third, it assumes that there is nothing in between (PS, range-finders, ...) that can reduce initimidation (which may or may not be the predominant factor), while providing more options than an iPhone can. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this story. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
Darren, They can sell the A*135/1.8 when I'm dead. (Fred Wasti can re-purchase it if he outlives me.) It's big, heavy and un-equaled in image quality on film. I've also really come to like the DA*60-250/4 zoom. The image quality is great and it's not to big to carry around. I saw a landscape and wildlife photographer talk last night. He tried to avoid talking about equipment. But he mentioned humping around a big Canon 600mm. He had some moose pictures, and suggested 'keeping your distance.' Here's an early shot from 2010 with my K-7 and DA60-250/4. The young male was so close I had to pull the zoom back to 200mm. And you can't believe how big these animals really are. https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/Moose#5525858060136009410 I use the DA*60-250/4 on the K-5 with a battery grip now and my images are better, but it is such killer lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535116 Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? [...] I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. I liked all of my Carl Zeiss / Contax lenses, and I had pretty much the lot at one time. I bought into the Olympus E system so that I could continue to use them when it became clear that my Contax film cameras were becoming more and more redundant. Unfortunately they didn't really produce the results on digital that they did on film, so to fund my Leica M8 and the Leica 21mm lens, I sold all the Contax / Zeiss stuff. I don't regret doing it because they were just sitting around doing nothing, but they were lovely lenses. When I had exclusively Pentax stuff I really liked the SMC A 70-200/4 zoom and the A 24-35/3.5 (I still have one of those for my MX). B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: and the A 24-35/3.5 (I still have one of those for my MX). That's an M lens, isn't it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Thanks for all the advice, Bruce. I have to admit that a good part of the resistance I have to taking up flash photography is pure laziness. Aside from the fact that I don't have an inkling as to what the photo is going to look like when I decide to use it, I do find the technical aspects of it a little intimidating. In my mind, in introduces a degree of unpredictability into the shot, and when the results are bad, I'm utterly clueless as to what I need to do to make it right. It really is an almost binary problem for me: It either worked, or it didn't work. So it's kind of an exercise in flying blind, and more often than not, hitting the mountainside. A continuous light source would be a much better option for me, simply because I have absolutely no idea what a shot using flash will look like when I trip the shutter. I guess the only way to remedy that would be to spend a lot of time shooting exclusively with flash, just to familiarize myself with it. But, know that intellectually is a different thing from putting it into practice, as my default inclination is always to try and get the shot with available light and I'm just in the habit of forgoing anything that would require flash. In fact, it's almost as though shots that require flash don't even register with me. That is, unless the subject itself is so compelling (like LeeAnn's figure, for example) that I want to get a shot of it even if it means I'm going to have to use the pop-up flash in order to get it. And even then, I'm going to try several times to see if I can get it without using flash. What I really need is to take a course in practical flash photography with a very rudimentary focus on the science and technical aspects -- just enough to lend a little predictability. As it stands, the only thing I can predict when using flash is that the flash will go off. If I can just learn the very basics of herding photons, I'd be a lot more comfortable using it. As it is, I'm completely mystified by it and wonder how anyone ever manages to get predictable results -- especially when using multiple remote flash units. (E.g., http://is.gd/7z3psm ) But, I am surprised at how cheap the LED panels and other continuous light sources are. If I start getting more models willing to pose for me, I'll certainly look into that. Thanks again! -- Walt On 2/11/2013 5:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Walt, points to consider: Like shooting from a tripod, adding in some artificial light can force you to slow down and consider your shots -- not actually a bad thing. Flash is not the only way to get extra light onto human subjects. There are: light bounced from reflectors, incandescent or halogen bulbs, LED panels, fluorescents, etc. If flash is intimidating because of its transient nature, then continuous light is very easy to work with and very familiar to you. They can be used with modifiers too. Eg: I put LED panels into softboxes and umbrellas. A 160-LED panel and a lightstand will cost you $50 these days at eBay or Amazon. A little bit of extra light added to a scene can lift your image from it's okay to oh wow. If your scene is lit by uniform flat light, you can get a perfectly okay shot. But your eyes are drawn to lighter areas or more contrasty areas, so if you take that flat shot and light your subject's face by a half stop or more, you'll see how much better it can become. Light becomes a part of the composition that you get to control. In the past I considered flash to be either unnecessary, too complex, too expensive, or just annoying -- until I actually tried it, first with one hotshoe flash then two and three. The very first time I tried working in a studio, despite stumbling around like a complete noob, I absolutely loved it. I took to it right away and saw how it opened up a world of new possibilities. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but
RE: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan [...] He had some moose pictures, and suggested 'keeping your distance.' Here's an early shot from 2010 with my K-7 and DA60-250/4. The young male was so close I had to pull the zoom back to 200mm. And you can't believe how big these animals really are. https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/Moose#55258580601360 09410 I use the DA*60-250/4 on the K-5 with a battery grip now and my images are better, but it is such killer lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535116 Lovely shot - a chocolate moose! Wee sleekit cow'ring tim'rous beastie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpzK73_lF8s B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: and the A 24-35/3.5 (I still have one of those for my MX). That's an M lens, isn't it? Can't remember, and I'm too lazy to go and look at it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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1. 2. I really like DA* 50-135/2.8. I enjoy the recently acquired 77/1.8 Both produce very nice sharp image with great color rendition. 77/1.8 has a bit unusual color combination in low light, but it is very pleasant. I like these two lenses for the image quality. I tend to take those with me even when they are a bit long for the task. 3. I like Da 17-70/4 for its versatility (for the dance photography, for taking pictures of my little kid, and some other occasions). The image is not exceptional but very reasonable. (And somewhat better than from the one DA* 16-50/2.8 that I tried, - maybe that one was a bad samples.) I wish it were sharper on the longer end. 4. I used to love Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8 (the oldest of the 3 versions) on the film camera, but I am rather dissapointed with its performance on all of my DSLRs. It's just not as sharp for some reason. I even had it checked by Eric Hendrickson, and he didn't find anything wrong with it. Igor Tue Feb 12 13:03:25 EST 2013 Darren Addy wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
What I really need is to take a course in practical flash photography with a very rudimentary focus on the science and technical aspects -- just enough to lend a little predictability. As it stands, the only thing I can predict when using flash is that the flash will go off. If I can just learn the very basics of herding photons, I'd be a lot more comfortable using it. As it is, I'm completely mystified by it and wonder how anyone ever manages to get predictable results -- especially when using multiple remote flash units. (E.g., http://is.gd/7z3psm ) A suggestion: If you don't already have any, buy a stuffed animal or two. Place them in chairs in various places around your house, and photograph them with a flash. Try it with the flash aiming at different parts of the room. Make a diffuser out of an old plastic jug that'll work like a fongdong. It won't take too much and you'll start getting a feel for where the photons go and why, and stuffed animals don't complain about holding the pose for too long. Also, if Lee Ann show up for a photo shoot not only will you have a stand in for while you are setting up lights, having stuffed animals will show her that you have a tender sensitive side that doesn't come through with your brusk bartender persona at work. Note also, that you could do about the same practice with a couple of clamp lights and a teddy bear in a relatively dark room. The trick comes from balancing flash with ambient lighting, a little amber gel over the flash goes a long way to helping with that. Also remember when mixing the two, aperture controls how much light you get from the flash, shutter speed controls how much light you get from ambient. -- l...@red4est.com via squirrelmail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
On 2/11/2013 7:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: You don't need to invest a lot to get a strobe well worth learning with. I'd suggest a dumb manual strobe. You can find them used for under $50. You can pick up a cheap radio trigger pair for $20, or a hongkong strobe extension cable for about the same. ephotoinc has a strobe that screws into a lightbulb socket and will trigger with either a PC cable or optically for about $20. I think you'd be better off with a dumb speedlight with adjustable power, and ideally, optical trigger, though you can buy optical triggers for about $10. One of the biggest obstacles for me as it relates to using flash is my complete and utter ignorance. I'm like Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer; your world frightens and confuses me. My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts! I've lost track of the number of times that I've recommended light, science magic, probably a few of them to you. That'll help with either ambient or artificial light. It will also help you understand the difference between how a diffuser works and a fongdong (or a light grenade as I call them, because they throw photons everywhere). One of the few things I have learned about flash photography is the absolute necessity of diffusers. Though, what makes a fongdong preferable in some situations as opposed to others, I couldn't begin to guess. All I know is that, when I use flash and the image doesn't have the lighting I was looking for, it's because I wasn't standing in the right place -- either too close, too far, or too far off to one side or the other. My entire experience with flash photography amounts to, OK, well I don't have enough light, so I have use a flash. [Engage pop-up flash, take photo] Well, that was certainly enough light, but I really didn't want it to look that way. Screw it. The problems with using a flash are that they can be really obnoxious/distracting and if you don't know what you're doing you are almost more likely to ruin a shot than get it right. Heretofore there are a whole bunch of shots that were just impossible to get without a flash. With a K-5 and occasionally being able to get shots with ISOs up to 25,600, that set has gotten orders of magnitude smaller than in the film era. That's just about word-for-word my view on the matter. When I go shooting, I want to carry as little gear as possible. If I can get away with it, I'll carry two cameras mounted with two lenses representing a fair focal range, and nothing else. Not even a tripod, as I find them cumbersome. And the beauty of the K-5 is that it goes a long way toward eliminating the need for flash in many situations -- though, admittedly, there's a great deal to be said for the creative use of flash to highlight certain elements of an image. I get that. It's just that I find it easier to wait for the scene to present itself to me in a pleasing manner than to force the scene to conform to my vision by introducing more light, or changing the nature of the lighting. For example, if I see a beautiful young lady who has striking eyes (or any other part of her anatomy), I find it easier to just keep an eye on her and wait until she's in a place where I can capture them, and then move in. It just strikes me as less awkward than telling her, Stop right there! Don't move! and then blasting light all over the place several times until I get it just right. There's a certain stylistic element beyond that, too. I love capturing unguarded moments and expressions more than I enjoy creating flawless exposures. Obviously, that's not an either/or proposition, but as a matter of creative priority, I tend to focus on a particular element that I find especially pleasing rather than trying to get the whole thing *just right*. I suppose that's a flaw -- maybe even a cop-out excuse for not learning one of the fundamentals of photography as well as I should. But, that's just the kind of half-assed photographer I've developed into. When I see someone who has features that cry out to be photographed, be it a classically beautiful facial structure, a winsome smile, or a front porch like the Taj Mahal, that's what I want to capture. The overall lighting only matters to me to the extent that it accentuates what I'm trying to capture. With available light, I know it when I see it. With flash, I don't know what the hell it's going to do. In other words, flash doesn't have to stupid expensive, and learning how to use it can make a huge difference in your photos. It'll also help you learn how to use available light better. Now, that is an interesting point and a good reason to take it up. Anything that will teach me how to better use available light is an unvarnished good thing. Whatever results in less time spent fiddling with the camera (or anything else) and more time pressing the shutter button can only be beneficial. There's nothing I hate more than seeing a great shot, asking someone to hold still
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will*never*, part with)?
Those photos are sweeet! Credit the lens if you want but kudos to the shutter pusher. Meandered thru your site some nice stuff there. I can't say as I have become attached to any lens yet, but they are all better than I need for the most part. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:52:04 -0600 From: Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will*never* partwith)? Message-ID: caodncb03zxlhcdz57ac4ss2_lcv-jyw9wq9tnnkg6eldu8-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Darren, They can sell the A*135/1.8 when I'm dead. (Fred Wasti can re-purchase it if he outlives me.) It's big, heavy and un-equaled in image quality on film. I've also really come to like the DA*60-250/4 zoom. The image quality is great and it's not to big to carry around. I saw a landscape and wildlife photographer talk last night. He tried to avoid talking about equipment. But he mentioned humping around a big Canon 600mm. He had some moose pictures, and suggested 'keeping your distance.' Here's an early shot from 2010 with my K-7 and DA60-250/4. The young male was so close I had to pull the zoom back to 200mm. And you can't believe how big these animals really are. https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/Moose#5525858060136009410 I use the DA*60-250/4 on the K-5 with a battery grip now and my images are better, but it is such killer lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535116 Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will*never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow th -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)
on 2013-02-12 10:53 Igor Roshchin wrote First, this guy is going to shoot 50 weddings in 1 day, whatever that means... But it cannot really mean a complete wedding coverage, does it? Maybe just the 5-10-minute civil ceremony... or, conversely, just a few shots of the couple and the family (analogous to photo with the Santa at a shopping mall). i don't see it as a take on commercial wedding photography, more of an attempt at the memorialization and specialness that photography no longer has in more digital societies Second, he is going to do with an iPhone. While this publicity stunt might be a fun project, I feel some bit discomfort about it. (Despite the humanitarian effort it supports.) i don't have a problem with him using an iPhone per se, but i don't buy his explanation of why he'll use it; it's merely a gimmick (or a delusion, or both) to rejuvenate his career as you note, if he feels larger cameras have an undesirable social impact, there are plenty of options; i don't think a smartphone is the best alternative — the situation in the Philippines has little relation to the ubiquity of smartphones, which is the main reason they are interesting photographically; i think he could make a stronger statement by using inexpensive, durable, fixed-lens digital cameras and leaving a bunch of them behind but the idea of doing photography as an offering, and making a bit of a production about it, doesn't bother me at all; it's refreshing in comparison to the commercialized box in which wedding photography (and weddings in general) is often stuck -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - John
That's a fine portrait, Frank! Works for me. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 8:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: An informal portrait of my friend John. I usually try to focus on the eye closest to the camera but since that one was darkened by shadow I went for the other one. Hope it works for you: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/01/john.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt I have to admit that a good part of the resistance I have to taking up flash photography is pure laziness. Aside from the fact that I don't have an inkling as to what the photo is going to look like when I decide to use it, I do find the technical aspects of it a little intimidating. I used to find it intimidating and I didn't learn to use manual flash until after I had TTL flash on automated cameras. But when I found I wanted to use flash on my M3 and only had an automated flash for a Pentax I bit the bullet and discovered that manual flash is really surprisingly easy, to the extent that now, on the rare occasions I use flash, always just use manual. The best way to do it subtly is to use a tilt/swivel head and bounce it off the corner of the ceiling, so it gets a good diffuse spread, and set it to about 1 or 2 stops below the indicated reading. The only mildly difficult thing about this is that you have to calcuguess the distance from flash to subject taking into account the bounce. But in general it's going to be about 2.5 times the camera-to-subject distance as the crow flies, and your focus scale will tell you what that is. Alternatively just get double the distance from the camera to the point where the flash bounces. You set the shutter speed to the flash-sync speed, set the aperture to match the flash-to-subject distance - you read this off the table on the back of the flash; it varies with the ISO - adjust by -1 stop if you want, then focus and shoot. In the good old days, paparazzi used to set things up so that they always shot their subjects from the same distance - typically a full-length, so they never had to adjust their camera settings and were guaranteed to get a shot in focus, properly exposed. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)
Bob, Yes, I enjoyed watching that video, even though I am not sure I agree with all the points criticized there. Even before Instagram people were taking photos of their feet, weird signs, self-portraits in the mirror, and what's not... Experimenting and playing is fine, and that platform is good for that purpose. As long as the results are not automatically classified as art. But, the idea I am trying to convey here is different: When a Pro makes the public statements and does the action in the way, that potentially validates that approach in eyes of the innocent population, if unexplained, it carries a wrong message. It would be similar to a Surgeon General saying in an interview that s/he never takes any medicine, instead drinking a glass of a red wine twice a week. If he would explain that he doesn't ignore doctor's presciption, he just doesn't need any medicine, that's fine. But if he says that wine has advantages over the medicine, - that would be a wrong message for the public. And that's what this Pro photographer does (or the journalist with the photographer's permission), in my opinion. Igor Tue Feb 12 13:14:32 EST 2013 Bob Sullivan wrote: Igor, Have you seen the Instagram video on U-tube? They are all f-ing Michael Angelos creating a new visual literacy in the great unwashed peoples of earth.. Iphones for everyone! Clean cups too! Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will*never*, part with)?
Don, Thanks for the comment on the pictures. In truth, I can't seem to part with any lenses - so no regrets. But clean-up after many years tells me I've got to sell some duplicates. Watch this space for coming attractions... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Those photos are sweeet! Credit the lens if you want but kudos to the shutter pusher. Meandered thru your site some nice stuff there. I can't say as I have become attached to any lens yet, but they are all better than I need for the most part. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:52:04 -0600 From: Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will*never* partwith)? Message-ID: caodncb03zxlhcdz57ac4ss2_lcv-jyw9wq9tnnkg6eldu8-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Darren, They can sell the A*135/1.8 when I'm dead. (Fred Wasti can re-purchase it if he outlives me.) It's big, heavy and un-equaled in image quality on film. I've also really come to like the DA*60-250/4 zoom. The image quality is great and it's not to big to carry around. I saw a landscape and wildlife photographer talk last night. He tried to avoid talking about equipment. But he mentioned humping around a big Canon 600mm. He had some moose pictures, and suggested 'keeping your distance.' Here's an early shot from 2010 with my K-7 and DA60-250/4. The young male was so close I had to pull the zoom back to 200mm. And you can't believe how big these animals really are. https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/Moose#5525858060136009410 I use the DA*60-250/4 on the K-5 with a battery grip now and my images are better, but it is such killer lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16535116 Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will*never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow th -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
Right now, I can't imagine ever parting with my FA 50/1.4 without a violent struggle. None of my other lenses hold quite as lofty a position in my pantheon, but there are some that I thoroughly enjoy using. I just don't have much experience with various lenses -- especially more expensive ones. But, I can say that if I ever get my own 77/1.8, I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before anyone wrests it from my grasp. -- Walt On 2/12/2013 12:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013, steve harley wrote: as you note, if he feels larger cameras have an undesirable social impact, there are plenty of options; i don't think a smartphone is the best alternative ? the situation in the Philippines has little relation to the ubiquity of smartphones, which is the main reason they are interesting photographically; i think he could make a stronger statement by using inexpensive, durable, fixed-lens digital cameras and leaving a bunch of them behind Twenty years ago, a friend of my primary's got married and handed out disposable cameras at the wedding; we swiped the idea when we got married fifteen years ago. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Thanks, Frank! She's a very photogenic young lady. I can see the Julia Roberts resemblance you're referring to, but have to agree with P.J. -- I think she's actually prettier. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 8:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's an excellent photo. She has a young Julia Roberts look about her. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
That would be the A*85 f/1.4. The worn exterior reminds me that it was my favorite lens for almost 15 years, and the glass is still nice because of the UV filter I used and changes when it was to full of dirt and scratches. It´s on some old PUG gallery together the LX :-) http://pug.komkon.org/05may/pugkamer.html Dag Thrane http://www.thrane.name 12. feb. 2013 kl. 19:03 skrev Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
Sad. I still have some prints I made on the glossy paper in the 80s and still looks great. 11. feb. 2013 kl. 23:51 skrev P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
Well, I couldn't believe it was still around. I think I haven't seen a new ciba print in the last ten years or so. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
On 2/12/2013 2:36 PM, Bob W wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt I have to admit that a good part of the resistance I have to taking up flash photography is pure laziness. Aside from the fact that I don't have an inkling as to what the photo is going to look like when I decide to use it, I do find the technical aspects of it a little intimidating. I used to find it intimidating and I didn't learn to use manual flash until after I had TTL flash on automated cameras. But when I found I wanted to use flash on my M3 and only had an automated flash for a Pentax I bit the bullet and discovered that manual flash is really surprisingly easy, to the extent that now, on the rare occasions I use flash, always just use manual. The best way to do it subtly is to use a tilt/swivel head and bounce it off the corner of the ceiling, so it gets a good diffuse spread, and set it to about 1 or 2 stops below the indicated reading. The only mildly difficult thing about this is that you have to calcuguess the distance from flash to subject taking into account the bounce. But in general it's going to be about 2.5 times the camera-to-subject distance as the crow flies, and your focus scale will tell you what that is. Alternatively just get double the distance from the camera to the point where the flash bounces. You set the shutter speed to the flash-sync speed, set the aperture to match the flash-to-subject distance - you read this off the table on the back of the flash; it varies with the ISO - adjust by -1 stop if you want, then focus and shoot. In the good old days, paparazzi used to set things up so that they always shot their subjects from the same distance - typically a full-length, so they never had to adjust their camera settings and were guaranteed to get a shot in focus, properly exposed. B Thanks for the tips, Bob! I think I approach photography with too great a sense of urgency sometimes. I don't like to spend a great deal of time fiddling and figuring, and that's what flash photography has always represented to me. I guess I'm a kind of Philistine/Luddite in that regard. You fancy-pants photographers with your flashes and your gels and your fongdongs and your softboxes. Get off my lawn! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
on 2013-02-12 11:03 Darren Addy wrote I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? i have a small regret for selling my Super Takumar 85/1.9; it seemed rather special, but at the point when i sold it i wasn't quite comfortable enough with the M42 adapters and the fully manual process to get going with it on digital i sometimes wonder if i should have hung onto the 100/4 Macro Bellows (and the bellows itself), but the Sigma 105/2.8 is probably a better lens overall the Macro-Takumar 50/4 lives on my partner's GH2, and i keep thinking i'll use it to learn some video technique, but i never get around to it; it handles so nicely i doubt i'll part with it any time soon i'm quite fond of the lenses i use most regularly (A 50/1.7, FA 28/2.8, Sigma EX 105/2.8 Macro) but there's no sense of absolute loyalty there - all are replaceable -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Printer Recommendations
Hi team, Before I eventually get a decent printer for photography, I need a cheap A4 printer - any recommendations? Must have: separate ink tanks, simple 3 colour plus black CD - tray for printing CDs / DVDs not bothered about built in wifi or anything fancy (will connect to a wifi hub) Under 100 GBP and I'm a happy bunny. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
smck 1000mm F8 - I sold it because I was shooting a lot of M42 at the time and the m42 version which I replaced it with could also work on k bodies. But now that I shoot only k mount digital, I wish I had the k version back - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
On 2/12/2013 1:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. I've never parted with a lens that I really liked, unless I had a duplicate or it met an unfortunate end, (the screw mount 28mm that shared the fate of the Spotmatic when it went over the cliff was never my favorite). Some I still have duplicates of. I did try to dispose of a SMCP [K]135mm f3.5 a while ago in a trade, but after testing it out managed to let the trade get away, I don't regret that, it's a really wonderful little, err. maybe not so little lens. The results it gives are fully the equal of much more expensive equivalents. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
Mamiya 250/6.3 for the 6x6 TLR. I spent years looking for a good one, but then had to sell it to fund lenses for the 6x7. Paul via phone On Feb 12, 2013, at 6:03 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/12/2013 1:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. I've never parted with a lens that I really liked, unless I had a duplicate or it met an unfortunate end, (the screw mount 28mm that shared the fate of the Spotmatic when it went over the cliff was never my favorite). Some I still have duplicates of. I did try to dispose of a SMCP [K]135mm f3.5 a while ago in a trade, but after testing it out managed to let the trade get away, I don't regret that, it's a really wonderful little, err. maybe not so little lens. The results it gives are fully the equal of much more expensive equivalents. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
I regret parting with a Sigma 400m APO f5.6 macro. I wanted a Tokina 400mm ATX f5.6 and could not find one, so I scraped up the extra money for the Sigma. I used it for about a month and then had the opportunity to swap it for the Tokina that I originally wanted plus some extra cash back. My biggest problem at the time was that the Sigma was just too big and heavy. I got the Tokina but soon realized that while it was very good, it was not excellent like the Sigma was. From f8 and on they are about the same, but the Sigma was much better wide open and that is what counts for that kind of lens. My original Tokina got the fungus and I replaced it with another Tokina eventually - I have not seen the Sigma APO macro available for a long time, though I don't look very often. A second regret is an odd one - Takumar F 70 - 200 f 4 - 5.6. It was a super low end lens and I sold it when I got the FA 80-320. But that Takumar F was super sharp. The person who bought it even got back to me some time later to say how much he was loving it. I think I just had a really good sample but would love to have it back to play with. Mark On 2/12/2013 1:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
On 12/02/2013 12:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. One of the only two Pentax lenses I have parted with was an FA50/1.4, and I wish I had kept it. Everything else (I've sold a total of 7 lenses in my life, 4 were Nikon mount), I miss not at all, though sometimes I wish I had kept the 58mm Nokton. As for lenses I will never part with, at the moment, that is all of my 35mm format lenses. I am more than willing to sell my 6x7 gear, but finding a buyer has been difficult. I`ll likely never sell my 4x5 gear, though the likelihood of setting up another darkroom grows dimmer every year. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
What is this parting with lenses of which you speak? Currently I don't see any way I'd let the 60-250 get away from me, and even though I haven't used it in a couple of years I hope that I don't need to reclaim the equity tied up in the 250-600. But while five years ago I wouldn't have considered getting rid of the FA* 80-200, I haven't used it since I got the 60-250 (and even before that the 50-135 had all but supplanted it). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
Have to agree. The 60-250, my most used lens, is a keeper. The 16-50 would be hard to part with as well. Paul via phone On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:19 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: What is this parting with lenses of which you speak? Currently I don't see any way I'd let the 60-250 get away from me, and even though I haven't used it in a couple of years I hope that I don't need to reclaim the equity tied up in the 250-600. But while five years ago I wouldn't have considered getting rid of the FA* 80-200, I haven't used it since I got the 60-250 (and even before that the 50-135 had all but supplanted it). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
On 13 February 2013 05:03, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and I regret selling my A*135/1.8 and A*200/4 macro not because I was enamored with them but that their sales would fund some rather nice purchases now. I do regret selling my A28/2 just because it was a really nice lens, I sold it when i acquired my 31/1.8LTD due to financial constraints at the time but I wish that I had kept it. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Snow Day (messenger content)
Another photo from last Friday's storm. Three o'clock on a Friday afternoon at a major downtown intersection and almost no cars. Usually Yonge and Queen would have a bit more traffic. Lots of people stayed home and lots of businesses closed early. There were a few messengers still out, though: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/snow-day.html?m=1 With the bright background I set the exposure compensation for +1.7 EV and that gave good results, I think. Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
I learned to print Cibachrome in 1975 - did it before I developed film or printed black and white myself. rather an odd way to get into it. still have 50 or 60 prints I did myself and a few I had done by someone else. Still have the big tube, too. It was tough going getting the exposures right and the colors - and the chemicals were really noxious. But after doing those for a year or so, black and white printing was a walk in the park. But the results were better than getting negs made from slides and then having the um what was it? C-41 processing done by a lab??? My first honorable mention was a ciba print from the Grand canyon from the Saturday Review in 1976. Alas, they didn't print all the honorable mentions in the mag, so while it was exciting to get the mention, it would have been much more so to see it in print in that venerable old magazine. ann On 2/12/2013 12:02, P. J. Alling wrote: When I printed Cibachrome it was at college, (University for those in other English speaking lands), at the student run Photography co-op. We had invested in an electrically driven agitator for processing E-6 which was replacing at the time E-4 which was really just too toxic for a darkroom primarily run by student volunteers. The agitator made processing the Cibachrome so much easier. It made processing the E-6 less tedious as well. On 2/12/2013 4:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I miss the thrill of seeing a cibachrome print, but it was a very taxing project in a home darkroom. On a simple enlarger, one had to guess at an initial filter pack. Then processing the print required 30 minutes of rolling the drum back and forth by hand. Then came an analysis of the color, adjustment of the filter pack, and another 30 minutes of rolling the drum. Making a single satisfactory print was a two to three hour project. Paul On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
I posted your image of a runner in the snow at my running club's Valentine function last night. People were amazed considering it was still 30°C in Phalaborwa at 5pm. Many people here have never seen snow or experienced very cold weather. If we ever have snow, it would have to be Baked Alaska. Alan -- From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Jerry V.
Here's a shot I took a few nights ago of another one of our resident characters at the club where I work. This guy is one of the more cantankerous drunks we have, but once you get a handle on how to deal with him, he's a pretty good guy. Like a lot of the people I deal with, he has phrases that he tends to lean on when he's well into his cups. Hey! Lemme tell ya somethin'! And another thing! You talkin' about me? Don't start no shit! He also happens to be a really good pool shot and only seems to get better the drunker he gets. Here he is shooting a game over the weekend: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8469249067/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.8, 1/60 sec., ISO 1600 I thought it was an interesting shot because he looks a bit like a Dick Tracy character to my eye. Comments and critiques are, as always, eagerly solicited. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
So this really seems to hoover big time. (Kind of long),
I have my newish Canon Pixma iX6520 that I got a fairly good deal on when my HP B8550 decided to freeze up, (The canon was actually less expensive than buying inks for my backup printer). Well it prints pretty decent images, though I'd gotten the Prints on the HP to be very good and they were actually a bit better than I've managed to do on the Canon so far. Rather than go into excruciating detail I'll just say that there are things about the HP that I really liked but one of them wasn't the Windows printer driver. HP decided that Windows users really didn't need paper profiles, (Strangely Mac users got to have paper profiles). So a fully color managed printing work flow wasn't possible. The method used was to do all the adjustments necessary then set the image output to sRGB, and let the printer manage the color. That actually worked very well, matching what i saw on the screen 95% of the time. The new Canon however does allow profiles so I can set up an end to end color managed workflow! Yay! Except there's a fly in the ointment. I've been using Ilford Galerie Professional Inkjet Smooth Gloss Paper, to print 8x10s. As I said it the results were pretty good on the HP using the settings for HP's High Gloss Photo Paper and letting the printer handle the sRGB output. The Canon also produces pretty good output working that way but not as good as the HP was, and it should be able to do better. Now I like the Galerie Gloss it makes nice prints, which is good because I bought a sizable amount of it a couple of years ago at a very good price. So I tootled over to Ilford's website to download the profiles for the Canon, and... I can't find the product. It's disapeared. It's not even listed under it's product number as a discontinued item. So now I've got a couple hundred sheets of this stuff left and I have no particularly easy way of profiling it, (Oh and did I mention the Canon inks are a tad bit more expensive than the HP inks were, so I'd l;ike to have as little wastage as possible). -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
I think I will keep my FA*200/4 macro. If anything, the lens I regret I didn't bought when it was for sale is the FA*250-600/5,6 :-) Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I thought it might be an interesting discussion to ask the PDML assembled, the following question: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)? I have the feeling some interesting stories, images, and who-knows-what-else might come from this thread. Depending upon everyone's participation (of course) it has the potential to be a whopper of a thread. I'd like the discussion to include anything everything, from manual focus screwmount lenses up to the latest technology. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pop some popcorn in anticipation of the coming show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* partwith)?
I must confess it's been a while since I was so attached to any piece of photographic gear that I would _seriously_ regret selling it. I use the filter functions in Lightroom to gauge how much I use each lens. If a lens is unused for two years in a row, it goes. I sometimes miss the image quality and working distance of the A*200/4 macro, but not often enough to trigger any itch to buy again. Upgrades to optics I do use are different, of course. Like when I sold the FA*600/4 to buy a Sigma 500/4.5. There was a wait involved; a gap between sale and purchase when I seriously wondered whether I did the right thing. If anything, I regret a bargain I let pass. When coming off the ship in Ushuaia after the Antarctica trip, I found a cheap FA* 85/1.4 in a local photo shop. At the time I was a bit saturated on the picture taking, so I dismissed it on emotion rather than thinking. That's never a good thing... :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: So this really seems to hoover big time. (Kind of long),
Could it be a naming issue? http://www.ilford.com/en/support/galerie-packaging/ Jostein - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Now I like the Galerie Gloss it makes nice prints, which is good because I bought a sizable amount of it a couple of years ago at a very good price. So I tootled over to Ilford's website to download the profiles for the Canon, and... I can't find the product. It's disapeared. It's not even listed under it's product number as a discontinued item. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Snow Day (messenger content)
- Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/snow-day.html?m=1 Man, you guys gotta be nuts to use those thin tyres in such weather... Photo really conveys the situation. Glad I'm not in his cleats. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Printer Recommendations
From: Steve Cottrell Hi team, Before I eventually get a decent printer for photography, I need a cheap A4 printer - any recommendations? Must have: separate ink tanks, simple 3 colour plus black CD - tray for printing CDs / DVDs not bothered about built in wifi or anything fancy (will connect to a wifi hub) Under 100 GBP and I'm a happy bunny. Epson Artisan 50 maybe. It's a 6 color printer with individual color tanks - Black, Cyan, Light Cyan, Magenta, Light Magenta and Yellow. Looks like it's available for less than $150 USD. I don't know if anyone other than Epson still makes a printer that will print directly on CD/DVD media. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?
On 12/2/13, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: That would be the A*85 f/1.4. The worn exterior reminds me that it was my favorite lens for almost 15 years, and the glass is still nice because of the UV filter I used and changes when it was to full of dirt and scratches. Yup. Still have mine, still waiting for a Pentrax FF body to mount it on. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
