Re: PESO: Breaching Whale

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> I ran into this critter this afternoon:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16957553

Great shot!

Do you have the resolution to crop it so that the whale is pretty much in the 
upper right corner so that a LOT more of the photo is whale and a lot less is 
water and sky?

Cloudy skies and water aren't nearly as interesting as the whale.


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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Rob Studdert]

On 22 February 2013 10:58, Darren Addy  wrote:

> I shared that link 8 days ago in the "Last call for K-5" thread, but
> it elicited no comments, which surprised me, a bit.

I saw the link when it was first posted, I think it's a somewhat
exaggerated result, I guess others thought so too.

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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

[Alan Cole]

Thanks for that Bob. 
Plena cacas.

Thank goodness elephants can't fly!

Another senior moment.

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Re: d7100 samples...

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Quite impressive.  It does take a loong time to load.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/news/0834148370/img_06_l.jpeg?v=1955
>
> Impressive actually. It looks like 24mp is no problem on APS-C with
> diffraction, even with F8 and I'm sure F11-13 looking pretty good.
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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 21, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Bill wrote:

> On 20/02/2013 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> Well, what did you expect from Microsoft?  A user-friendly operating system?
> Honestly Dan, this is the first time I've run into a Win OS that has sucked. 
> Over the past couple of years, I've had the pleasure of using a couple of Mac 
> laptops, and they have been different, but still intuitive. I can see why 
> people like the things. What I didn't see was a huge advantage over what I'm 
> using now (Win7)

What I don't understand is why changing the OS means changing the user 
interface.  

The UI/windows manager/shell is just another program on top of the OS.

Microsoft is trying to make a UI that will work on both tablets and desktops.  
What it will get is something that doesn't work well on either.

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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Remember Vista?
Remember XP before the third is a series of fixes?
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 20/02/2013 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Well, what did you expect from Microsoft?  A user-friendly operating
>> system?
>
> Honestly Dan, this is the first time I've run into a Win OS that has sucked.
> Over the past couple of years, I've had the pleasure of using a couple of
> Mac laptops, and they have been different, but still intuitive. I can see
> why people like the things. What I didn't see was a huge advantage over what
> I'm using now (Win7)
>
> bill
>
>
>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, so I got that out of the way.
>>> I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8
>>> installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and
>>> unkind
>>> to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8.
>>> It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden
>>> shower of an operating system.
>>> I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about
>>> just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this
>>> list
>>> for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad
>>> stuff
>>> I can say about things that annoy me.
>>> I must get rid of it, and soon.
>>>
>>> Help me.
>>>
>>> bill
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Ann Sanfedele]

;-)
ann

On 2/21/2013 10:54, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Paul provided Annapest control.

Igor


Thu Feb 21 10:45:55 EST 2013
Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I always liked anapests - for obvious reasons :-)

ann
On 2/21/2013 09:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

That should say, "but so does Joe's first example with line four read
as a pair of anapests.





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Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Part III

[Aahz Maruch]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, David Mann wrote:
> On Feb 22, 2013, at 2:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Okay. I lied. I found a few more photos that I decided to put on the
>> blog, mostly to share with those who were at the ice race:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-part-iii-last-i-think.html?m=1
>>  
> 
> Love the stare-down in the first photo.  Do I want to know what the
> vegetation on his handlebar is for?

Probably too close to my bedtime, but I seriously thought that said
"vegetarian" first time I read it.
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[Aahz Maruch]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Went back to the fracture clinic yesterday to have it looked at by the
> orthopaedic surgeon. Ankle was dislocated in addition to the break. He
> therefore had to reduce it (major ouch!) and I am now in a non-walking
> cast and we'll wait two weeks, take more xrays and if the reduction
> sticks I get a walking cast for a month. If the reduction didn't work
> we're under the knife.
>
> Fingers crossed!



When I broke my wrist, I broke a bone that makes it lucky I've got full
functioning back.  May you have similar luck.
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Re: PESO - The Madison, Washington, DC

[kwaller]

I get all soft & melty at the mention of Tri-X.


Sounds like a MARK ! to me.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Bray" 

Subject: Re: PESO - The Madison, Washington, DC



Awww... I get all soft & melty at the mention of Tri-X.  -T

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Mark C  wrote:

A change from snow crystals -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[kwaller]

From bill or Microsoft ? ;+>


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- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms" 

Subject: Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.



I expected better.


From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
Well, what did you expect from Microsoft?  A user-friendly operating 
system?

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Bill  
wrote:

OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8
installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and 
unkind

to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden
shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across 
about
just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this 
list
for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad 
stuff

I can say about things that annoy me.
I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill




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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Ouch indeed!
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Thanks to all for the kind wishes.
>
> Went back to the fracture clinic yesterday to have it looked at by the 
> orthopaedic surgeon. Ankle was dislocated in addition to the break. He 
> therefore had to reduce it (major ouch!) and I am now in a non-walking cast 
> and we'll wait two weeks, take more xrays and if the reduction sticks I get a 
> walking cast for a month. If the reduction didn't work we're under the knife.
>
> Fingers crossed!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Igor Roshchin 
> Sent: February 21, 2013 2/21/13
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card
>
>
> Ouch!
>
> And this wasn't a theatrical/musical performance, but you still
> "broke your leg" so to speak...
>
> I hope it mends quickly and with little pain.
>
> Igor
>
>
> Wed Feb 20 07:34:19 EST 2013
> knarftheriault wrote:
>
> That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
> visit in two years, second since September.
>
> We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
> bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
> it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
> smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.
>
> Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
> heal without complications.
>
> On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
> surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.
>
> If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
> ops!  ;-)
>
> As always, could have been worse.
>
> More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Part III

[David Mann]

On Feb 22, 2013, at 2:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay. I lied. I found a few more photos that I decided to put on the blog, 
> mostly to share with those who were at the ice race:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-part-iii-last-i-think.html?m=1
>  

Love the stare-down in the first photo.  Do I want to know what the vegetation 
on his handlebar is for?

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - S

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Interesting viewpoint, Frank.  It's a step in the right direction,
that's for sure.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:18 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Haven't shown a subway shot for a while:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/s.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO: Hidden Waterfall

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Frank.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> That's beautiful, Dan!
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent: February 20, 2013 2/20/13
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> Subject: PESO: Hidden Waterfall
>
> One of the sights on the infamous Road to Hana:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16938592
> Comments and criticisms are always welcome.
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RE: PESO: Hidden Waterfall

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

That's beautiful, Dan!

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: February 20, 2013 2/20/13
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Subject: PESO: Hidden Waterfall

One of the sights on the infamous Road to Hana:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16938592
Comments and criticisms are always welcome.
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RE: PESO - The Madison, Washington, DC

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Really like this one!

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C 
Sent: February 20, 2013 2/20/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO - The Madison, Washington, DC

A change from snow crystals -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

Permalink:

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Re: PESO - S

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Thanks, Don!

Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: February 21, 2013 2/21/13
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re:  PESO - S

I saw it on your blog and it made me wonder..just wonder. I am waiting 
for the other shoe to drop. Tension. Now I wonder why I like it but I do.


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> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:18:27 -0500
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Haven't shown a subway shot for a while:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/s.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Yeah, I am beginning to think so, Bob. Might be time for an inside job...

:-(

cheers,
frank

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From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: February 21, 2013 2/21/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

Frank,
Heal well, and get an indoor job!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
> visit in two years, second since September.
>
> We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
> bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
> it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
> smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.
>
> Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
> heal without complications.
>
> On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
> surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.
>
> If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
> ops!  ;-)
>
> As always, could have been worse.
>
> More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

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Thanks to all for the kind wishes.

Went back to the fracture clinic yesterday to have it looked at by the 
orthopaedic surgeon. Ankle was dislocated in addition to the break. He 
therefore had to reduce it (major ouch!) and I am now in a non-walking cast and 
we'll wait two weeks, take more xrays and if the reduction sticks I get a 
walking cast for a month. If the reduction didn't work we're under the knife.

Fingers crossed!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Igor Roshchin 
Sent: February 21, 2013 2/21/13
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card


Ouch!

And this wasn't a theatrical/musical performance, but you still
"broke your leg" so to speak...

I hope it mends quickly and with little pain.

Igor


Wed Feb 20 07:34:19 EST 2013
knarftheriault wrote:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: Hands-on with 560mm :-)

[Zos Xavius]

So now that you have had this lens for a while, how do you think it
compares to the sigma 500? worth the extra money? The sigma looks a
lot smaller, but is also much more optically complex. that pentax lens
looks massive, even collapsed.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Cool!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Jostein Øksne" 
> Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Hands-on with 560mm :-)
>
> Today my pusher got the 560mm in house. Since I had the time, I popped by
> for a drool'n'fondle. First impressions are that it's mechanically well
> built and quite reasonable to handle considering the focal length. It is a
> lot lighter than the FA*600/4, but a bit heavier than the Sigma 500/4.5. I
> took a picture of the two together with my crappy cellphone, which Stig
> Vidar has put online before I even got back to my computer...:-)
> http://album.heime.org/album/diverse/da560.jpg
>
> The camera pictured is a K-5IIs with a DA*200/2.8, just for reference.
>
> There may be test pictures forthcoming another day.
>
> Jostein
>
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RE: OT 'cycle humour

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

The inventor of the stationary bike?

;-)

cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
Subject: OT 'cycle humour

http://www.marriedtothesea.com/index.php?date=021913

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RE: Hands-on with 560mm :-)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Cool!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Jostein Øksne" 
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Hands-on with 560mm :-)

Today my pusher got the 560mm in house. Since I had the time, I popped by 
for a drool'n'fondle. First impressions are that it's mechanically well 
built and quite reasonable to handle considering the focal length. It is a 
lot lighter than the FA*600/4, but a bit heavier than the Sigma 500/4.5. I 
took a picture of the two together with my crappy cellphone, which Stig 
Vidar has put online before I even got back to my computer...:-)
http://album.heime.org/album/diverse/da560.jpg

The camera pictured is a K-5IIs with a DA*200/2.8, just for reference.

There may be test pictures forthcoming another day.

Jostein


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Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Pt. 1

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Hey, the conditions made for better photos, I think. Falling snow adds to the 
atmosphere, I think!

;-)

You don't notice it when you are out there but it sure feels cold when the race 
is over!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Walt 
Sent: February 18, 2013 2/18/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Pt. 1

Great set, Frank!

I admire your willingness to brave the conditions, too. Makes me feel 
like a bit of a slacker.

-- Walt


On 2/17/2013 6:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yesterday was Icycle 2013, Toronto's annual ice race. Many of the 
> participants are messengers or ex-messengers but anyone who pays the $15 
> entry fee can race.
>
> The money (along with proceeds from beer sales at the afterparty) went to a 
> cyclist who was seriously injured as an innocent bystander (byrider?) when a 
> car involved in a high speed police chase crashed and pinned her against a 
> lamp post. About $1,000 was raised.
>
> Anyway, the race is a fun thing as you can see by some of the outfits. The 
> top photo is Alberto "the Ice Emperor" de Cicco, four-time champ. Leaning 
> into the corner with the bushy beard is Jim "the Ice Bear" Kuz, another past 
> winner.
>
> The close up of the lovely young lady wearing the helmet is Linda who ended 
> up winning the women's race this year.
>
> As you can see there was heavy snow during the early heats which made things 
> look rather seasonal:
>
>   http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-1.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus


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Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Pt. 1

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Don't know how the injured cyclist is doing. I do know she was seriously 
injured. The car that had her wedged against the lamp post had to be pried off 
her before she could be out in the ambulance.

Thanks for the kind words about the photos. It was fun event.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: David Mann 
Sent: February 18, 2013 2/18/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Pt. 1

On Feb 18, 2013, at 1:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-1.html?m=1

Looks like loads of fun but I don't think you'd catch me riding in those 
conditions at this age.

Is the injured girl they were fundraising for doing well?  I certainly hope 
she's back on a bike soon.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Pt. 1

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Thanks, Dan! 

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: February 18, 2013 2/18/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Pt. 1

That is simply a wonderful gallery, Frank, and the portrait of Linda
is special indeed

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Yesterday was Icycle 2013, Toronto's annual ice race. Many of the 
> participants are messengers or ex-messengers but anyone who pays the $15 
> entry fee can race.
>
> The money (along with proceeds from beer sales at the afterparty) went to a 
> cyclist who was seriously injured as an innocent bystander (byrider?) when a 
> car involved in a high speed police chase crashed and pinned her against a 
> lamp post. About $1,000 was raised.
>
> Anyway, the race is a fun thing as you can see by some of the outfits. The 
> top photo is Alberto "the Ice Emperor" de Cicco, four-time champ. Leaning 
> into the corner with the bushy beard is Jim "the Ice Bear" Kuz, another past 
> winner.
>
> The close up of the lovely young lady wearing the helmet is Linda who ended 
> up winning the women's race this year.
>
> As you can see there was heavy snow during the early heats which made things 
> look rather seasonal:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-1.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus
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OT: Amazing survival story

[David Mann]

I wouldn't normally post this but it's the 2nd anniversary today, and the first 
time I've seen this story.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/8334256/Survival-against-the-odds

Good reminder of what's really important.

Cheers,
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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Bill]

On 20/02/2013 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Well, what did you expect from Microsoft?  A user-friendly operating system?
Honestly Dan, this is the first time I've run into a Win OS that has 
sucked. Over the past couple of years, I've had the pleasure of using a 
couple of Mac laptops, and they have been different, but still 
intuitive. I can see why people like the things. What I didn't see was a 
huge advantage over what I'm using now (Win7)


bill




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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Bill  wrote:

OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8
installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind
to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden
shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about
just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list
for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff
I can say about things that annoy me.
I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[Mark C]

Yow, Frank - that's not a club I'd want to join. Just go with the trial 
membership and then trade it in for something better.


Mark

On 2/20/2013 2:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Damn Frank! I hope you get frequent flyer miles or cash back at the 
end of the year.


... or maybe just get better soon.

From: "knarftheriault

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto.
Third visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters
and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of
course, turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty
kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on
black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking
cast/boot and heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by
orthopaedic surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more
photo ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you
guys!).  ;-)

cheers, frank





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Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page

[Mark C]

On 2/21/2013 9:57 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
Ah-ha -- turns out the K-30 has a delay in displaying focus peaking 
(about half a second after focusing), so that's why I didn't see it 
earlier (because I was rushing it a bit). 
Well, that is good to know. I haven't paid any attention to the K-30 but 
hopefully this means that future Pentax Ricoh dslr's will have focus 
peaking. WOuld be a great boon IMO.


What I do is flower porn, and you can't get a decent shot of something
above your head without a tilting screen (or a down-shot above shoulder
height).  Down near the ground makes a huge difference, too, if you're
shooting sideways.

Bring a ladder :-)

Gotcha. That does make the K-01 a little more tempting. I like TAv 
because I want to control shutter/aperture without thinking. I spent 
yesterday afternoon with a professional photographer [*], and he made 
a 13x20 print (on 17x22 paper) of a K-5 shot I took at ISO 6400 
because he wanted to see how much camera sensors have changed over the 
last few years. You literally can't see any noise (partly because the 
glossy paper itself is a bit stippled). There's just no reason to pay 
much attention to ISO. 


I agree that senors and processing has come a long way, but I would not 
agree that there is no reason to pay attention to ISO. While noise is 
remarkably restrained at higher ISO's it is still there. If I want it 
there that's great (I  do still use Rodinal and film, after all), if it 
is a necessary compromise I can live with that, but if I can get the 
shot without it I will. I shoot snow crystals at ISO 100 or 200 simply 
because the noise of higher ISO's would be a distraction. There is not 
enough visual "stuff" (signal) to counter the noise. I can see the 
difference between ISO 400 and 800 for birds and bugs, but would not 
hesitate to go to ISO 800 to get a shutter speed fast enough to freeze 
the subject. But I would be very reluctant to shoot nature stuff above 
ISO 800, even with the K-5.


Mark

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d7100 samples...

[Zos Xavius]

http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/news/0834148370/img_06_l.jpeg?v=1955

Impressive actually. It looks like 24mp is no problem on APS-C with
diffraction, even with F8 and I'm sure F11-13 looking pretty good.

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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Bill]

On 20/02/2013 8:18 PM, Walt wrote:

On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote:

OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 
8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, 
and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared 
to Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, 
golden shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across 
about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been 
on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of 
just how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me.

I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill

Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new 
desktop at work:


http://www.classicshell.net


Yup, that helped. Actually gives it the best of both worlds. Has the Win 
XP look and usability with all the progressive features of Win 8.

Wife happy. Happy wife, happy life. I'm happy.
Thanks Walt.

bill

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Re: GESO - Icycle 2013, Part III

[Christine Nielsen]

Those are great, Frank... I'm glad you came up with a 3rd group, I
meant to comment on the other 2!  They remind of the Crashed Ice races
(ever seen those?) only on bikes...a sport whose time has come, I
think!

:)
-c

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Okay. I lied. I found a few more photos that I decided to put on the blog, 
> mostly to share with those who were at the ice race:
>
>  
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-part-iii-last-i-think.html?m=1
>
> For those of you who didn't see the first two galleries and might be 
> interested, here they are:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-1.html?m=1
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-ii.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy the fun and mayhem (yes, they are racing bicycles on ~ice~ 
> with home made screw studded tires!). Don't expect many comments as these 
> photos are similar to the first two GESOs but feel free if you have the urge.
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
>
>
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GESO - Icycle 2013, Part III

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Okay. I lied. I found a few more photos that I decided to put on the blog, 
mostly to share with those who were at the ice race:

 
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-part-iii-last-i-think.html?m=1
 

For those of you who didn't see the first two galleries and might be 
interested, here they are:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-1.html?m=1

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/icycle-2013-pt-ii.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy the fun and mayhem (yes, they are racing bicycles on ~ice~ with 
home made screw studded tires!). Don't expect many comments as these photos are 
similar to the first two GESOs but feel free if you have the urge.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

 



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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Final Week

[Darren Addy]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> From the quotations list a few years ago:
>
> "A good photograph will overcome its format"
>  - Doug Brewer

There is its format and then there is the book format. A good photo
book format will not favor horizontal over vertical format
photographs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a vertical
formatted photograph. It has no format to "overcome" unless it is
overcoming a predjudice on the part of the presenting format (for
example, our landscape formatted computer monitors that show a
landscape to fuller advantage. A book page can be square and so give
"equal opportunity" to both horizontal and vertical (not to mention
square).

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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Final Week

[Mark Roberts]

Walt wrote:

>OK, here's the thing: I would've submitted mine by now, but I'm having a 
>little difficulty with the selection process.
>
>You see, some of my favorite shots are in portrait orientation rather 
>than landscape. I have some shots in landscape orientation that I like, 
>too -- but, I can't make up my mind.
>
>Do I take the hit on presentation in the interest of displaying my 
>favorite images, or do I take advantage of the presentation with 
>landscape-oriented images that may not necessarily be my favorites?
>
>It's all just too much for me to handle!!!

>From the quotations list a few years ago:

"A good photograph will overcome its format"
 - Doug Brewer

 
-- 
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Re: Fwd: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[steve harley]

on 2013-02-21 7:11 Ann Sanfedele wrote

Note nowhere in H B's Wiki does it mention (at least I didn't see it) as
one of his accomplishments...


"In the spirit of reductive minimalism, Bayer developed a crisp visual style 
and adopted use of all-lowercase, sans serif typefaces for most Bauhaus 
publications."


i live about half a mile from a monumental bayer sculpture; this is a photo i 
want to retake more carefully:




and a mile or so in the other direction, the Denver Art Museum has a permanent 
room devoted to his work




So I give you the ann edited version of Steve's original post.

  mister bayer
  was a purveyor
  of style so simple and pure
  that when he expressed it
  most found it eclectic
  so his writings remain quite obscure


though i am a fan of gnarly scansion
i appreciate the editorial attention





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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Final Week

[David Parsons]

Take a chance and submit the portrait shot.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Walt  wrote:
> OK, here's the thing: I would've submitted mine by now, but I'm having a
> little difficulty with the selection process.
>
> You see, some of my favorite shots are in portrait orientation rather than
> landscape. I have some shots in landscape orientation that I like, too --
> but, I can't make up my mind.
>
> Do I take the hit on presentation in the interest of displaying my favorite
> images, or do I take advantage of the presentation with landscape-oriented
> images that may not necessarily be my favorites?
>
> It's all just too much for me to handle!!!
>
> -- Walt
>
>
>
> On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> One week left to submit your three shots for this year's book. It's
>> going to be a good one.
>>
>> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
>>
>
>
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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

[Bruce Walker]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan Cole
>>
>> BTW, where does the cormorant (phalacrocoracis) fit in?
>>
>
> ask yourself why it has such greasy plumage, and you may imagine the
> answer...
>
> The PDML's favourite fowl
> Is not the bobolink or owl
> It's not the tanager,
> The tit or the badger,
> It's the cormorant.
>
> The red-footed phalacrocorax
> Has such a gigantical thorax
> That when it takes flight
> It can't help but shite
> And that's why its nest smells of borax

Iambic Mark!

As we already have a lot of great material, I propose a poetry section
for the 2013 PDML Annual.

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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Bruce Walker]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
>> Nothing in here will be news to you, but I found this recently (via
>> PetaPixel) and thought it was pretty good (though admittedly it
>> approaches from the "all artifacts are bad even if you can't see them"
>> point of view):
>> http://www.martin-doppelbauer.de/foto/tippstricks/aliasfilter/index.html
>
> I shared that link 8 days ago in the "Last call for K-5" thread, but
> it elicited no comments, which surprised me, a bit.

My comment, had I shared it, was to have been, "Phxzzzt!" But it
wasn't very scientific nor derived from heavy maths, so I held my
tongue.

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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Bruce Walker]

This all brings to mind the often-quoted: The difference between
theory and practice is greater in practice than in theory.

I've pixel-peeped all the K-5IIs hi-rez images I could find, compared
them to the same scene shot on fully-AA'ed machines where available
and have come to the conclusion that the K-5IIs is entirely made of
win. For my purposes shots from the K-5IIs exceed the useful
resolution of the Canon 5d Mk II, a standard in the portrait and
fashion shooting biz. Moire was also a non-issue.

I expect the K-3 (?) 24 Mpx body to have much additional win poured
into it. Martin Dopplebauer's painfully twisted knickers
notwithstanding.



On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
> I think we're thinking about slightly different things.  I agree with
> what you say about visible moire, but I'm also thinking about
> non-moire aliasing artifacts.  These still represent (in my mind at
> least) a corruption of the image, but they are not easily visible in
> the image (without comparison to reality which people aren't usually
> able to do when looking at a photo) and therefore not aesthetically
> objectionable.  One might say that if they aren't visible they don't
> really matter, and that's fine.  I'm just pointing out that some of
> the perceived detail increase you get from omitting the AA filter
> isn't accurate/real, but I realize that some may be willing to pay
> that price for sharper looking images.
>
> If the image projected on the sensor (including lens imperfections,
> diffraction, camera shake during the exposure, etc.) has the right
> amount of blur to be Nyquist sampled by the pixel pitch then you won't
> get aliasing, and adding an AA filter might unnecessarily decrease the
> resolution by something like sqrt(2).  So in that case there would be
> no advantage to an AA filter and for all I know that may be a common
> situation.  Personally, I think I would rather give up a little
> resolution to know that I won't be adding artifacts to the image (but
> I've never used an AA filter-free camera so this is all theory), so I
> hope I'll continue to have that choice as with the K-5 II and IIs.
>
> Nothing in here will be news to you, but I found this recently (via
> PetaPixel) and thought it was pretty good (though admittedly it
> approaches from the "all artifacts are bad even if you can't see them"
> point of view):
> http://www.martin-doppelbauer.de/foto/tippstricks/aliasfilter/index.html
>
> P.S. For the record, if anybody wants to give me a Leica with no AA
> filter I will not turn it down!
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that it will be a practical problem very rarely given the
>>> pixel pitch.  But I think that is another way of saying that the
>>> sensor is over-resolving what the lens, etc. can do.  Which I think is
>>> another way of saying what you're mostly getting is bigger files, not
>>> more real detail in the images.
>>
>> Well, I don't think that's quite right... with good lenses at a sharp
>> aperture and careful technique, I think you can make use of the sensor
>> resolution and achieve high detail. But to provoke moire, you need a
>> pattern with just the right spatial frequency in the same part of the
>> image where you're achieving that sharpness. I think it's the
>> combination of those two factors that makes it so rare in practice,
>> rather than it just being a matter of the sensor always over-resolving
>> the optics.
>>
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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Darren Addy]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
> Nothing in here will be news to you, but I found this recently (via
> PetaPixel) and thought it was pretty good (though admittedly it
> approaches from the "all artifacts are bad even if you can't see them"
> point of view):
> http://www.martin-doppelbauer.de/foto/tippstricks/aliasfilter/index.html

I shared that link 8 days ago in the "Last call for K-5" thread, but
it elicited no comments, which surprised me, a bit.

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Re: Re: Deep in the Red

[Bruce Walker]

That's very nice, Don.

Niggle: my eye keeps getting pulled to the LR-corner by the bright
non-red area there. I'd either heavily dodge it, crop it, or colourize
it red in Photoshop.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:27:46 -0500
>> From: Bruce Walker
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Deep in the Red
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>
> Bruce, thanks for trying. The link worked for me but of course I was logged
> in. Now why would they want me to use their new service if I can't share
> from there? Maybe there is another way.
>  If you care the photo is on my Posterous account; probably my last one
> there of course
>
> http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/
>
>
>
>>
>> I'm getting:
>>
>>"Sign in with any of your accounts:"
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Don Guthrie
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Testing this link for Adobe Reveal 50 jpeg photos per month free.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >This photo was taken with Sears/Ricoh Pentax screw-mount lens attached
>>> > to a
>>> >tilt/shift adapter for M 4/3 on a Oly Pen with a short extention tube.
>>> >
>>> >Comments on photo if the link works welcomed.
>>> >
>>>
>>> > >https://www.adoberevel.com/libraries/5f6dfb8c38fa49a58ea354489cc30406/assets/84e2f17690f52bab77494da742e1
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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Bryan Jacoby]

I think we're thinking about slightly different things.  I agree with
what you say about visible moire, but I'm also thinking about
non-moire aliasing artifacts.  These still represent (in my mind at
least) a corruption of the image, but they are not easily visible in
the image (without comparison to reality which people aren't usually
able to do when looking at a photo) and therefore not aesthetically
objectionable.  One might say that if they aren't visible they don't
really matter, and that's fine.  I'm just pointing out that some of
the perceived detail increase you get from omitting the AA filter
isn't accurate/real, but I realize that some may be willing to pay
that price for sharper looking images.

If the image projected on the sensor (including lens imperfections,
diffraction, camera shake during the exposure, etc.) has the right
amount of blur to be Nyquist sampled by the pixel pitch then you won't
get aliasing, and adding an AA filter might unnecessarily decrease the
resolution by something like sqrt(2).  So in that case there would be
no advantage to an AA filter and for all I know that may be a common
situation.  Personally, I think I would rather give up a little
resolution to know that I won't be adding artifacts to the image (but
I've never used an AA filter-free camera so this is all theory), so I
hope I'll continue to have that choice as with the K-5 II and IIs.

Nothing in here will be news to you, but I found this recently (via
PetaPixel) and thought it was pretty good (though admittedly it
approaches from the "all artifacts are bad even if you can't see them"
point of view):
http://www.martin-doppelbauer.de/foto/tippstricks/aliasfilter/index.html

P.S. For the record, if anybody wants to give me a Leica with no AA
filter I will not turn it down!


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
>
>> I agree that it will be a practical problem very rarely given the
>> pixel pitch.  But I think that is another way of saying that the
>> sensor is over-resolving what the lens, etc. can do.  Which I think is
>> another way of saying what you're mostly getting is bigger files, not
>> more real detail in the images.
>
> Well, I don't think that's quite right... with good lenses at a sharp
> aperture and careful technique, I think you can make use of the sensor
> resolution and achieve high detail. But to provoke moire, you need a
> pattern with just the right spatial frequency in the same part of the
> image where you're achieving that sharpness. I think it's the
> combination of those two factors that makes it so rare in practice,
> rather than it just being a matter of the sensor always over-resolving
> the optics.
>
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Re: PESO - The Madison, Washington, DC

[Mark C]

The photo is soft and melty too :-)

On 2/21/2013 10:50 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Awww... I get all soft & melty at the mention of Tri-X.  -T

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Mark C  wrote:

A change from snow crystals -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/02/20/the-madison-washington-d-c

Pentax Mz-S, Lensbaby Muse, closeup filter, Tri-X 400 rated at 1600, D76
1+1. C&C apprecaited!

Mark

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RE: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan Cole
> 
> BTW, where does the cormorant (phalacrocoracis) fit in?
> 

ask yourself why it has such greasy plumage, and you may imagine the
answer...

The PDML's favourite fowl
Is not the bobolink or owl
It's not the tanager,
The tit or the badger,
It's the cormorant.

The red-footed phalacrocorax
Has such a gigantical thorax
That when it takes flight
It can't help but shite
And that's why its nest smells of borax

B


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Re: PESO - S

[Don Guthrie]

I saw it on your blog and it made me wonder..just wonder. I am waiting 
for the other shoe to drop. Tension. Now I wonder why I like it but I do.



pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:18:27 -0500
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Haven't shown a subway shot for a while:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/s.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



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Re:Re: Deep in the Red

[Don Guthrie]

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:27:46 -0500
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Bruce, thanks for trying. The link worked for me but of course I was 
logged in. Now why would they want me to use their new service if I 
can't share from there? Maybe there is another way.
 If you care the photo is on my Posterous account; probably my last one 
there of course


http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/





I'm getting:

   "Sign in with any of your accounts:"


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:

>Testing this link for Adobe Reveal 50 jpeg photos per month free.
>
>This photo was taken with Sears/Ricoh Pentax screw-mount lens attached to a
>tilt/shift adapter for M 4/3 on a Oly Pen with a short extention tube.
>
>Comments on photo if the link works welcomed.
>
>https://www.adoberevel.com/libraries/5f6dfb8c38fa49a58ea354489cc30406/assets/84e2f17690f52bab77494da742e1
>
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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:

> I agree that it will be a practical problem very rarely given the
> pixel pitch.  But I think that is another way of saying that the
> sensor is over-resolving what the lens, etc. can do.  Which I think is
> another way of saying what you're mostly getting is bigger files, not
> more real detail in the images.

Well, I don't think that's quite right... with good lenses at a sharp
aperture and careful technique, I think you can make use of the sensor
resolution and achieve high detail. But to provoke moire, you need a
pattern with just the right spatial frequency in the same part of the
image where you're achieving that sharpness. I think it's the
combination of those two factors that makes it so rare in practice,
rather than it just being a matter of the sensor always over-resolving
the optics.

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RE: Deep in the Red

[John Coyle]

Not going to install their application on any of my devices, thanks!


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 3:33 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Deep in the Red

Testing this link for Adobe Reveal 50 jpeg photos per month free.

This photo was taken with Sears/Ricoh Pentax screw-mount lens attached to a 
tilt/shift adapter for M
4/3 on a Oly Pen with a short extention tube.

Comments on photo if the link works welcomed.

https://www.adoberevel.com/libraries/5f6dfb8c38fa49a58ea354489cc30406/assets/84e2f17690f52bab774
94da742e1

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RE: Deep in the Red

[John Sessoms]

From: Don Guthrie

Testing this link for Adobe Reveal 50 jpeg photos per month free.

This photo was taken with Sears/Ricoh Pentax screw-mount lens attached
to a tilt/shift adapter for M 4/3 on a Oly Pen with a short extention tube.

Comments on photo if the link works welcomed.

https://www.adoberevel.com/libraries/5f6dfb8c38fa49a58ea354489cc30406/assets/84e2f17690f52bab77494da742e1


Sez I gotta sign in with my Adobe, Facebook or Google+ password.

Oh ... plus I gotta download a new browser.

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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Bryan Jacoby]

I agree that it will be a practical problem very rarely given the
pixel pitch.  But I think that is another way of saying that the
sensor is over-resolving what the lens, etc. can do.  Which I think is
another way of saying what you're mostly getting is bigger files, not
more real detail in the images.


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
>
>> I am surprised that the D7100 is only being made without an AA filter
>> (unlike D800/E and K5 II/s).  I hope this isn't contagious.
>
> Moire already seems to be pretty rare on the K-5 IIs and D800E by most
> accounts, and with 24 MP in an APS-C format, it will be even more rare
> on the D7100 due to the small pixel pitch. I'd probably be impressed
> with my technique if I managed to provoke it.
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Re: PAW163 - Winter sky

[DagT]

Thanks Aahz, and Mark C, Christine and Bob W.

I think you are right about the distance. It´s a pretty flat area with marshes 
and small lakes. 

Dag Thrane
http://www.thrane.name



20. feb. 2013 kl. 02:46 skrev Aahz Maruch :

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013, DagT wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm@36mm, f/11, 1/125s, ISO100.
> 
> Nice!  How far were you from the trees?  (I'd guess about 300m.)
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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:

> I am surprised that the D7100 is only being made without an AA filter
> (unlike D800/E and K5 II/s).  I hope this isn't contagious.

Moire already seems to be pretty rare on the K-5 IIs and D800E by most
accounts, and with 24 MP in an APS-C format, it will be even more rare
on the D7100 due to the small pixel pitch. I'd probably be impressed
with my technique if I managed to provoke it.

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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[John Mullan]

Bill,

It really isn't as bad as all that.  Especially on a laptop.  Slide your 
finger onto the touchpad from the right to pull up charms, do the same from 
the left side to go to the last app, and down from the top to bring up the 
menu for the program.  Far easier than the hot corners.  Windows key and "D" 
gets the desktop, Windows key and "X" brings up a useful menu.  It is just a 
matter of it being different.  I have to sell the stuff, so I am becoming 
used to it and it really isn't that bad.


John Mullan


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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:15 PM
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OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8
installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and
unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to
Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden
shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across
about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on
this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how
much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me.
I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill

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PESO - S

[frank theriault]

Haven't shown a subway shot for a while:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/02/s.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Bryan Jacoby]

I am surprised that the D7100 is only being made without an AA filter
(unlike D800/E and K5 II/s).  I hope this isn't contagious.

(I suppose the same is true of the 645D, but that's not really a
mainstream product.)



On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>
>> This is apparently from the March issue of Nippon magazine (pg 179)
>> Google translation of discussion thread.
>> http://translate.google.com/translate?twu=1?sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A//s.kakaku.com/bbs/K416049/SortID%3D15794099/
>> or
>> http://goo.gl/No5uD
>>
>> The translation is hard enough to read. But the K-3 introduction in
>> April would be in line with what was rumored earlier, that Sony needed
>> 6 months lead time in the market for the 24MP sensor that Pentax will
>> be getting more out of than Sony did.
>> : )
>
> It seems plausible, since Nikon just announced the D7100 (24 MP,
> APS-C, no AA filter). K-3 : D7100 :: K-5 : D7000...
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Looking at tablets anybody know the Idea USA 9.7"

[Larry Colen]

I went to Fry's at lunch to pick up a Nexus 7.  While I was there I
noticed they had a couple of interesting looking Idea USA tablets.
A 9.7" one that seems to have an IPS display and 16G memory for $230
and a 10.1" one with a lesser display and only 8G of memory for $160

these were particularly interesting because they had two USB ports, one
labeled host, video out and an SD card slot.

At a quick glance it looks like the 9.7" with the better display and more
internal memory would be the way to go for an inexpensive gadget for
displaying photos.  Does anyone know anything about this unit?

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RE: What lenses do you regret parting with (or will *never* part with)?

[SV Hovland]

I saw your message from 2003 and remembered your recent message here :-)

http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg149076.html

I am looking for a FA*250-600 if someone happens to know about any for sale :-)

Stig Vidar Hovland

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What is this "parting with lenses" of which you speak?

Currently I don't see any way I'd let the 60-250 get away from me, and even 
though I haven't used it in a couple of years I hope that I don't need to 
reclaim the equity tied up in the 250-600.

But while five years ago I wouldn't have considered getting rid of the FA* 
80-200, I haven't used it since I got the 60-250 (and even before that the 
50-135 had all but supplanted it).

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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> This is apparently from the March issue of Nippon magazine (pg 179)
> Google translation of discussion thread.
> http://translate.google.com/translate?twu=1?sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A//s.kakaku.com/bbs/K416049/SortID%3D15794099/
> or
> http://goo.gl/No5uD
>
> The translation is hard enough to read. But the K-3 introduction in
> April would be in line with what was rumored earlier, that Sony needed
> 6 months lead time in the market for the 24MP sensor that Pentax will
> be getting more out of than Sony did.
> : )

It seems plausible, since Nikon just announced the D7100 (24 MP,
APS-C, no AA filter). K-3 : D7100 :: K-5 : D7000...

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Re: New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Paul Stenquist]

I assume that would be an APS-C successor to K-5. Full frame is probably at 
least a year away. 

On Feb 21, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> This is apparently from the March issue of Nippon magazine (pg 179)
> Google translation of discussion thread.
> http://translate.google.com/translate?twu=1?sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A//s.kakaku.com/bbs/K416049/SortID%3D15794099/
> or
> http://goo.gl/No5uD
> 
> The translation is hard enough to read. But the K-3 introduction in
> April would be in line with what was rumored earlier, that Sony needed
> 6 months lead time in the market for the 24MP sensor that Pentax will
> be getting more out of than Sony did.
> : )
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New Japan rumors: 24MP K-3 in April, 645Dii in June

[Darren Addy]

This is apparently from the March issue of Nippon magazine (pg 179)
Google translation of discussion thread.
http://translate.google.com/translate?twu=1?sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A//s.kakaku.com/bbs/K416049/SortID%3D15794099/
or
http://goo.gl/No5uD

The translation is hard enough to read. But the K-3 introduction in
April would be in line with what was rumored earlier, that Sony needed
6 months lead time in the market for the 24MP sensor that Pentax will
be getting more out of than Sony did.
: )

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Re: Deep in the Red

[Bruce Walker]

I'm getting:

  "Sign in with any of your accounts:"


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Testing this link for Adobe Reveal 50 jpeg photos per month free.
>
> This photo was taken with Sears/Ricoh Pentax screw-mount lens attached to a
> tilt/shift adapter for M 4/3 on a Oly Pen with a short extention tube.
>
> Comments on photo if the link works welcomed.
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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Final Week

[Walt]

OK, here's the thing: I would've submitted mine by now, but I'm having a 
little difficulty with the selection process.


You see, some of my favorite shots are in portrait orientation rather 
than landscape. I have some shots in landscape orientation that I like, 
too -- but, I can't make up my mind.


Do I take the hit on presentation in the interest of displaying my 
favorite images, or do I take advantage of the presentation with 
landscape-oriented images that may not necessarily be my favorites?


It's all just too much for me to handle!!!

-- Walt


On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

One week left to submit your three shots for this year's book. It's
going to be a good one.

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
  



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Deep in the Red

[Don Guthrie]

Testing this link for Adobe Reveal 50 jpeg photos per month free.

This photo was taken with Sears/Ricoh Pentax screw-mount lens attached 
to a tilt/shift adapter for M 4/3 on a Oly Pen with a short extention tube.


Comments on photo if the link works welcomed.

https://www.adoberevel.com/libraries/5f6dfb8c38fa49a58ea354489cc30406/assets/84e2f17690f52bab77494da742e1

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Re: New toy + me =:) (for now)

[Don Guthrie]

Christine, I like this one for my smaller cameras up to the K-1. It is 
3 way convertible between wrist strap and over the shoulder / over the 
neck all at the push of a button. $40


http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/three-way-camera-strap/



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Re: New toy + me =:)  (for now)
Anyone out there use a wrist strap that they like?  Something not
quite-so heavy-duty?  I think I might prefer to neck strap for this
camera...




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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 06:20:37AM -0800, Aahz Maruch wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, David Mann wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Why can't people learn that what works best for them doesn't work best for
> >> everyone and that someone saying that "A works better than B for me"
> >> doesn't mean "You are a subsentient loser of questionable morals for
> >> liking B better than A".
> > 
> > http://xkcd.com/386/
> 
> Okay, how many of y'all knew which one that was without checking?  (Just
> curious how widespread the meme is.)

I did.  But then, #386 is really easy to remember.



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Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page

[P. J. Alling]

On the other hand they no longer show the black version and the white is 
not featured, so I guess they just have a ton of the Yellow "Designer" 
model.


On 2/21/2013 11:50 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pentaximaging .com doesn't have it officially discontinued so I bet 
there's a ton of them unsold in the US.


On 2/20/2013 10:55 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

B&H still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
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Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page

[P. J. Alling]

Pentaximaging .com doesn't have it officially discontinued so I bet 
there's a ton of them unsold in the US.


On 2/20/2013 10:55 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

B&H still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
with the DA40 for an extra $60.




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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[Igor Roshchin]

Ouch!

And this wasn't a theatrical/musical performance, but you still
"broke your leg" so to speak...

I hope it mends quickly and with little pain.

Igor


Wed Feb 20 07:34:19 EST 2013
knarftheriault wrote:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[John Sessoms]

I expected better.


From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

Well, what did you expect from Microsoft?  A user-friendly operating system?
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Bill  wrote:

OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8
installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and unkind
to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden
shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across about
just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on this list
for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how much bad stuff
I can say about things that annoy me.
I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill





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Re: New toy + me = :) (for now)

[Bob Sullivan]

> It's all about the accessories, no?
Sounds like a true Fashionista.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Bob & Aahz,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions on the wrist strap... I think we have the
> range covered with just those 2 options!  :)
> I saw someone on the internet was offering custom-made leather half
> cases for the k-01, too... price available on request.  It's all about
> the accessories, no?
>
> ;)
> -c

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Igor Roshchin]

Paul provided Annapest control.

Igor


Thu Feb 21 10:45:55 EST 2013
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> I always liked anapests - for obvious reasons :-)
> 
> ann
> On 2/21/2013 09:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > That should say, "but so does Joe's first example with line four read
> > as a pair of anapests.


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

[Tim Bray]

Hope the orthopedic professionals and healing spirits are good to you,
Frank.  -T

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
> visit in two years, second since September.
>
> We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
> bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
> it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
> smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.
>
> Broken ankle. But, "a good break" which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
> heal without complications.
>
> On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
> surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.
>
> If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
> ops!  ;-)
>
> As always, could have been worse.
>
> More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus
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Re: PESO - The Madison, Washington, DC

[Tim Bray]

Awww... I get all soft & melty at the mention of Tri-X.  -T

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> A change from snow crystals -
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php
>
> Permalink:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/02/20/the-madison-washington-d-c
>
> Pentax Mz-S, Lensbaby Muse, closeup filter, Tri-X 400 rated at 1600, D76
> 1+1. C&C apprecaited!
>
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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

[Bob Sullivan]

Market stall, hell no.  Go for one of those internet funding projects.
Start writing your business plan now Frank!
Little Burkas for Little People...love it.
Save your kids from those pesky photographers.
(You know anyone with a cell phone could be filming them these days!)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> knarftheria...@gmail.com
>>
>> If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
>> could dress them in little burkas.
>>
>> They could make "Western burkas": like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
>> Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
>>
>> One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
>> and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
>> Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
>>
>> And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
>>
>> Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
>> pesky predators.
>>
>> With the right marketing this could take off...
>>
>
> you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
> selling - you could be on your way to your first million.
>
> B
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Ann Sanfedele]

I always liked anapests - for obvious reasons :-)

ann

On 2/21/2013 09:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

That should say, "but so does Joe's first example with line four read as a pair 
of anapests.

On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


Ann,
Yours does scan nicely, but so does Joe's first example with line read as a 
pair of anapests.
Paul

On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


I meant to post to the whole list...


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:10:24 -0500
From: Ann Sanfedele 
To: Joseph McAllister ,  steve harley 

Guys...

Note nowhere in H B's Wiki does it mention (at least I didn't see it) as
one of his accomplishments...

Yours still doesn't scan Joe :(

So I give you the ann edited version of Steve's original post.

mister bayer
was a purveyor
of style so simple and pure
that when he expressed it
most found it eclectic
so his writings remain quite obscure

This turned out to be fun :-)

ann



On 2/21/2013 03:24, Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Feb 20, 2013, at 20:24 , steve harley wrote:


mister bayer
was a purveyor
of a style so simple and pure
that when he expressed it
most found it too eclectic
and his writings remain quite obscure




that doesn't scan too well - don't think
e. e. would have approved


yes i admire e. e., but i'm not his protégée
i refer to herbert bayer
to deflect the reflex
that cummings rules the miniscules



I hope you enjoyed my variations, Ann.


Sorry Steve. I had to clean up the grammar, shorten for brevity, and punctuate.

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of style so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it
t'was found too eclectic
thus his writings remain quite obscure.

V-2

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of pills so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it,
at times was quite hectic,
thus his pain remained a bit dour.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 2/21/2013 09:47, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Ann,
Yours does scan nicely, but so does Joe's first example with line read as a 
pair of anapests.
Paul


ah... yeah you're right

ann


On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


I meant to post to the whole list...


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:10:24 -0500
From: Ann Sanfedele 
To: Joseph McAllister ,  steve harley 

Guys...

Note nowhere in H B's Wiki does it mention (at least I didn't see it) as
one of his accomplishments...

Yours still doesn't scan Joe :(

So I give you the ann edited version of Steve's original post.

mister bayer
was a purveyor
of style so simple and pure
that when he expressed it
most found it eclectic
so his writings remain quite obscure

This turned out to be fun :-)

ann



On 2/21/2013 03:24, Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Feb 20, 2013, at 20:24 , steve harley wrote:


mister bayer
was a purveyor
of a style so simple and pure
that when he expressed it
most found it too eclectic
and his writings remain quite obscure




that doesn't scan too well - don't think
e. e. would have approved


yes i admire e. e., but i'm not his protégée
i refer to herbert bayer
to deflect the reflex
that cummings rules the miniscules



I hope you enjoyed my variations, Ann.


Sorry Steve. I had to clean up the grammar, shorten for brevity, and punctuate.

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of style so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it
t'was found too eclectic
thus his writings remain quite obscure.

V-2

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of pills so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it,
at times was quite hectic,
thus his pain remained a bit dour.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: New toy + me = :) (for now)

[Christine Nielsen]

Bob & Aahz,

Thanks for the suggestions on the wrist strap... I think we have the
range covered with just those 2 options!  :)
I saw someone on the internet was offering custom-made leather half
cases for the k-01, too... price available on request.  It's all about
the accessories, no?

;)
-c

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Bob W  wrote:

>>
>
> I have one of these for my X100 and M8:
> 
>
> B
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Paul Stenquist]

That should say, "but so does Joe's first example with line four read as a pair 
of anapests.

On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Ann,
> Yours does scan nicely, but so does Joe's first example with line read as a 
> pair of anapests.
> Paul
> 
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>> I meant to post to the whole list...
>> 
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!
>> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:10:24 -0500
>> From: Ann Sanfedele 
>> To: Joseph McAllister ,  steve harley 
>> 
>> Guys...
>> 
>> Note nowhere in H B's Wiki does it mention (at least I didn't see it) as
>> one of his accomplishments...
>> 
>> Yours still doesn't scan Joe :(
>> 
>> So I give you the ann edited version of Steve's original post.
>> 
>> mister bayer
>> was a purveyor
>> of style so simple and pure
>> that when he expressed it
>> most found it eclectic
>> so his writings remain quite obscure
>> 
>> This turned out to be fun :-)
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/21/2013 03:24, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 20:24 , steve harley wrote:
>>> 
>> mister bayer
>> was a purveyor
>> of a style so simple and pure
>> that when he expressed it
>> most found it too eclectic
>> and his writings remain quite obscure
>> 
>> 
>> 
> that doesn't scan too well - don't think
> e. e. would have approved
 
 yes i admire e. e., but i'm not his protégée
 i refer to herbert bayer
 to deflect the reflex
 that cummings rules the miniscules
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope you enjoyed my variations, Ann.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry Steve. I had to clean up the grammar, shorten for brevity, and 
>>> punctuate.
>>> 
>>> Mister Bayer
>>> was a purveyor
>>> of style so simple and pure,
>>> though he oft expressed it
>>> t'was found too eclectic
>>> thus his writings remain quite obscure.
>>> 
>>> V-2
>>> 
>>> Mister Bayer
>>> was a purveyor
>>> of pills so simple and pure,
>>> though he oft expressed it,
>>> at times was quite hectic,
>>> thus his pain remained a bit dour.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joseph McAllister
>>> jo...@mac.com
>>> 
>>> It seems that I need to stop my mind running off at the fingertips.
>>> — Mike Wilson
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page

[Aahz Maruch]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, Mark C wrote:
> On 2/20/2013 10:32 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>
>>Maybe I'm missing something, but is the live view on the K-01 that much
>>better than the K-5's?  I don't see improvement on the K-30 relative to
>>the K-5, though supposedly the K-30 is better.
>
> Focus peaking makes all the difference. For high magnification where
> the DOF is minimal focus peaking provides great data about exactly
> where the focal plane is. You can put it right where you need to
> maximize DOF or to take a series of shots for stacking (something I
> have yet to try.) Without focus peaking live view is helpful but I
> don't see a significant improvement in focusing accuracy compared to
> using the finder. As I said in my original post, if  focus peaking
> were incorporated into a DSLR's live view I would not need the K-01.

Ah-ha -- turns out the K-30 has a delay in displaying focus peaking
(about half a second after focusing), so that's why I didn't see it
earlier (because I was rushing it a bit).

>>Also, I find that my macro work is far improved by having an articulated
>>(or at least tilting) screen, and I thought the K-01 had one, but
>>discovered I was wrong when I went shopping this morning.
>
> I'd love to have an articulated or titling screen but so far have
> been able to overcome the absence of one. I don't think it would
> make a huge difference in the quality of my work but little things
> like that add up.

What I do is flower porn, and you can't get a decent shot of something
above your head without a tilting screen (or a down-shot above shoulder
height).  Down near the ground makes a huge difference, too, if you're
shooting sideways.

>>Finally, AFAICT the K-01 doesn't have TAv mode, don't you miss that?
>>(It's one of the things I'm loving most about the K-5.)
>
> The K-01 has TAv - just set the ISO to auto and set the dial to
> manual mode. The screen even says "TAv Mode." If ISO is set to
> manual then you are in full manual. Personally, I never shoot in
> TAv, I use full manual for most everything.

Gotcha.  That does make the K-01 a little more tempting.  I like TAv
because I want to control shutter/aperture without thinking.  I spent
yesterday afternoon with a professional photographer [*], and he made a
13x20 print (on 17x22 paper) of a K-5 shot I took at ISO 6400 because he
wanted to see how much camera sensors have changed over the last few
years.  You literally can't see any noise (partly because the glossy
paper itself is a bit stippled).  There's just no reason to pay much
attention to ISO.

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Re: New toy + me = :) (for now)

[Christine Nielsen]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Christine,
> I got one last week, a white 'storm trooper' model after yellow was
> discontinued.
> Yes, the 40mm lens is like a pig snout - cute looking.
> And I know I've got a wrist strap around here that would work fine.
> The thing is indeed a brick and heavy.
> Plus the noise it makes with SR on and a FA 28-105 mounted is disconcerting.
> Still working with it to decide what I think.
> Still haven't figured out how to activate Hi speed picture shooting vs Lo.

I read somewhere yesterday that HI speed could only be accessed when
shooting jpgs.  If you shoot RAW or RAW+, that option is grayed out.
Right now, I have mine set to jpg only & can get it into HI.

My husband called it a brick, too...it is dense.  But it felt pretty
light to me compared to the k-5 + 50-135 combo I use frequently.  I
don't see myself using big lenses like that on the k-01 too often,
but... never say never.

Looking forward to hearing your impressions...

:)
-c

> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
>> Well, the K-01 arrived today... a welcome diversion to the midweek
>> school vacation scene around here. :)  It fits in my hand well, the
>> 40mm lens is adorable, if a little pig-snouty in appearance.  The lcd
>> screen is clear & bright, controls easy to fiddle.  I think it will
>> take my 21mm lens well, too.  I'm looking forward to having fun with
>> it, I think I'll leave it set to capture jpgs, even!  (gasp)  For no
>> good reason,  I'll include this peso, a selfie, taken in the
>> reflection of my monitor... (I was impressed/kind of alarmed by just
>> how reflective that guy is when black...)
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/8493744856/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
>> Anyone out there use a wrist strap that they like?  Something not
>> quite-so heavy-duty?  I think I might prefer to neck strap for this
>> camera...
>>
>> :)
>> -c
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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Bill
>
>> OK, so I got that out of the way.

>
>
> That was pretty much my take on Windoze8 as well. I'd contact the
> manufacturer & make a nuisance of myself.

Bill proved that the 6x7 mirror shake was a myth, so if he says
Windows 8 blows, then it blows.

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Paul Stenquist]

Ann,
Yours does scan nicely, but so does Joe's first example with line read as a 
pair of anapests.
Paul

On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> I meant to post to the whole list...
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!
> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:10:24 -0500
> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> To: Joseph McAllister ,  steve harley 
> 
> Guys...
> 
> Note nowhere in H B's Wiki does it mention (at least I didn't see it) as
> one of his accomplishments...
> 
> Yours still doesn't scan Joe :(
> 
> So I give you the ann edited version of Steve's original post.
> 
> mister bayer
> was a purveyor
> of style so simple and pure
> that when he expressed it
> most found it eclectic
> so his writings remain quite obscure
> 
> This turned out to be fun :-)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/21/2013 03:24, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 20:24 , steve harley wrote:
>> 
> mister bayer
> was a purveyor
> of a style so simple and pure
> that when he expressed it
> most found it too eclectic
> and his writings remain quite obscure
> 
> 
> 
 that doesn't scan too well - don't think
 e. e. would have approved
>>> 
>>> yes i admire e. e., but i'm not his protégée
>>> i refer to herbert bayer
>>> to deflect the reflex
>>> that cummings rules the miniscules
>> 
>> 
>> I hope you enjoyed my variations, Ann.
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry Steve. I had to clean up the grammar, shorten for brevity, and 
>> punctuate.
>> 
>> Mister Bayer
>> was a purveyor
>> of style so simple and pure,
>> though he oft expressed it
>> t'was found too eclectic
>> thus his writings remain quite obscure.
>> 
>> V-2
>> 
>> Mister Bayer
>> was a purveyor
>> of pills so simple and pure,
>> though he oft expressed it,
>> at times was quite hectic,
>> thus his pain remained a bit dour.
>> 
>> 
>> Joseph McAllister
>> jo...@mac.com
>> 
>> It seems that I need to stop my mind running off at the fingertips.
>> — Mike Wilson
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT: How to make fresh Quacamole

[Bruce Walker]

Cool, John. Thanks.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
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> it:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FQMO6vjmkyI
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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

>> http://xkcd.com/386/
>
> Okay, how many of y'all knew which one that was without checking?  (Just
> curious how widespread the meme is.)

I didn't have the number memorized, but I guessed correctly.

There's an old joke:

A new prisoner shows up at the prison. Over and over, in the mess
hall, one prisoner would yell a number--"32!"--and everyone else would
laugh. The new guy asks the old-timer next to him what was going on.
"Well, the prison library only has one joke book. We've all been here
long enough to have it memorized, so we just yell out the page
numbers, and everyone knows what joke it is." The new guy decides
he'll give it a try: "53!" The mess hall falls silent. "What's wrong?"
he asks. The old-timer answers, "Well, you didn't tell it right."

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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

[Aahz Maruch]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, David Mann wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> Why can't people learn that what works best for them doesn't work best for
>> everyone and that someone saying that "A works better than B for me"
>> doesn't mean "You are a subsentient loser of questionable morals for
>> liking B better than A".
> 
> http://xkcd.com/386/

Okay, how many of y'all knew which one that was without checking?  (Just
curious how widespread the meme is.)
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Fwd: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Ann Sanfedele]

I meant to post to the whole list...


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: March PUG - Please Read!!
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:10:24 -0500
From: Ann Sanfedele 
To: Joseph McAllister ,  steve harley 



Guys...

Note nowhere in H B's Wiki does it mention (at least I didn't see it) as
one of his accomplishments...

Yours still doesn't scan Joe :(

So I give you the ann edited version of Steve's original post.

 mister bayer
 was a purveyor
 of style so simple and pure
 that when he expressed it
 most found it eclectic
 so his writings remain quite obscure

This turned out to be fun :-)

ann



On 2/21/2013 03:24, Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Feb 20, 2013, at 20:24 , steve harley wrote:


mister bayer
was a purveyor
of a style so simple and pure
that when he expressed it
most found it too eclectic
and his writings remain quite obscure




that doesn't scan too well - don't think
e. e. would have approved


yes i admire e. e., but i'm not his protégée
i refer to herbert bayer
to deflect the reflex
that cummings rules the miniscules



I hope you enjoyed my variations, Ann.


Sorry Steve. I had to clean up the grammar, shorten for brevity, and punctuate.

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of style so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it
t'was found too eclectic
thus his writings remain quite obscure.

V-2

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of pills so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it,
at times was quite hectic,
thus his pain remained a bit dour.


Joseph McAllister
jo...@mac.com

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PDML Photo Annual - Final Week

[Mark Roberts]

One week left to submit your three shots for this year's book. It's
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http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
 
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Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page

[Mark C]

On 2/20/2013 10:32 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:


Maybe I'm missing something, but is the live view on the K-01 that much
better than the K-5's?  I don't see improvement on the K-30 relative to
the K-5, though supposedly the K-30 is better.
Focus peaking makes all the difference. For high magnification where the 
DOF is minimal focus peaking provides great data about exactly where the 
focal plane is. You can put it right where you need to maximize DOF or 
to take a series of shots for stacking (something I have yet to try.) 
Without focus peaking live view is helpful but I don't see a significant 
improvement in focusing accuracy compared to using the finder. As I said 
in my original post, if  focus peaking were incorporated into a DSLR's 
live view I would not need the K-01.

Also, I find that my macro work is far improved by having an articulated
(or at least tilting) screen, and I thought the K-01 had one, but
discovered I was wrong when I went shopping this morning.
I'd love to have an articulated or titling screen but so far have been 
able to overcome the absence of one. I don't think it would make a huge 
difference in the quality of my work but little things like that add up.

Finally, AFAICT the K-01 doesn't have TAv mode, don't you miss that?
(It's one of the things I'm loving most about the K-5.)
The K-01 has TAv - just set the ISO to auto and set the dial to manual 
mode. The screen even says "TAv Mode." If ISO is set to manual then you 
are in full manual. Personally, I never shoot in TAv, I use full manual 
for most everything.


Mark

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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

[Steve Cottrell]

I think you all need a lesson in Latin!!!





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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

[Alan Cole]

Don't you mean bull? (Only joking!)

Thanks, Bob (& others). You gave me considerable pleasure trying to recall 
my long lost Latin skills.


BTW, where does the cormorant (phalacrocoracis) fit in?

Alan

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> sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium
> est


I suspect my little effort is grammatically dubious - it's over 35 years
since I did Latin at school.

Still, I am feeling rather tempted to apply for the vacancy in the 
Vatican.

I think I'd be good at writing bulls.

B




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OT - Digital Rev Makes Amends for Supplying 'Used' Camera as NEW

[Bipin Gupta]

Thanks James, what a story. The mighty B&H sold me a used K20D with
over 600 shutter actuations as new in April 2009.
I found this out very late when the Pentax Forum released a link to a
web site giving Shutter Count, Camera Manufacturing Date etc, when you
uploaded a photo on their web site.
I wrote to Henry Posner of B&H (co-ordinator with Pentax Forum), but
have not received a satisfactory reply. And I have been buying from
B&H for over (14) years, the last in August 2012.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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Re: PESO: Hidden Waterfall

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Aahz!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> One of the sights on the infamous Road to Hana:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16938592
>
> Nice framing!
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

[Joseph McAllister]

On Feb 20, 2013, at 18:53 , steve harley wrote:

> mister bayer
> was a purveyor
> of a style so simple and pure
> that when he expressed it
> most found it too eclectic
> and his writings remain quite obscure

Sorry Steve. I had to clean up the grammar, shorten for brevity, and punctuate.

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of style so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it
t'was found too eclectic
thus his writings remain quite obscure.

V-2

Mister Bayer
was a purveyor
of pills so simple and pure,
though he oft expressed it,
at times was quite hectic,
thus his pain remained a bit dour.


Joseph McAllister

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RE: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters
> 
> 
> Quoting Bob W :
> 
> >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine
> >> Aguila
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Bob W"  wrote:
> >>
> >> >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
> >> >> Francis
> >> 
> >>  Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
> >> >> [...]
> >> 
> >>  In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
> >> >> other
> >>  stuff
> >>  happened.)
> >> >>
> >> >> post hoc ergo propter hoc
> >> 
> >>  ... caveat emptor...
> >> >> In latin, truthiness.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> -bmw
> >> > I have no help for Christine
> >> > but
> >> >
> >> > in vino est veritas
> >> 
> >>  Illegitimus non carborundum
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sarcina stercoris
> >> >>
> >> >> Phalacrocorax aristotelis
> >> >
> >> > pulcherrimae plumae!
> >>
> >> Aguila non copit murem
> >>
> >
> > sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium
> > est
> >
> 
> I wish now that I'd paid more attention to my Latin master at high
> school (although I suspect even he would have trouble with some of
> what's being served up here)
> 

I suspect my little effort is grammatically dubious - it's over 35 years
since I did Latin at school.

Still, I am feeling rather tempted to apply for the vacancy in the Vatican.
I think I'd be good at writing bulls.

B


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RE: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

[Bob W]

you probably got one of the European versions that was labelled as bullshit.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: 21 February 2013 02:16
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Windows 8 is Horseshit.
> 
> OK, so I got that out of the way.
> I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8
> installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and
> unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to
> Windows 8.
> It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden
> shower of an operating system.
> I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across
> about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on
> this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how
> much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me.
> I must get rid of it, and soon.
> 
> Help me.
> 
> bill



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Re: OT: How to make fresh Quacamole

[Joseph McAllister]

Thank You John.

Were I young again that looks like it, and infinite variations, are something I 
would waste a few months doing in my SF Studio on Vanderwater.

:))

On Feb 20, 2013, at 20:22 , John Sessoms wrote:

> A friend sent this to me. I thought it was clever, so I thought I'd share it:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FQMO6vjmkyI


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