Re: Pentax is History

[David Mann]

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:

> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are 
> two entirely separate matters. ;)

Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Pentax is history

[P.J. Alling]

Well really it's the final end of Asahi Optical Company.

So does the GXR qualify as an interchangeable lens camera or a "new 
technical innovation"?


On 7/3/2013 2:02 AM, Alan C wrote:

?

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/07/02/Pentax-Ricoh-announces-name-change-but-what-will-it-mean-for-Pentax-brand 



Alan C

-Original Message- From: Bruce Walker
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:05 PM
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Subject: Pentax is history

How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309

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Re: Pentax is history

[Dario Bonazza]

I'm not so interested in the company name (which changed several times over 
the years and usually did not include the Pentax word). I'm interested in 
good products and commitment to the system. I don't think the latest name 
change will affect that, for the better or for the worse, so it's pretty 
much a storm in a glass of water.
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Re: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

[Chris Mitchell]

Nice shot and interesting perspective. The second link works, but
better? There are no adverts so that's good; so if that defines
"better", then it is!

Chris

On 3 July 2013 02:25, Rick Womer  wrote:
> We interrupt the ongoing catastrophizing for a photo:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17446309&size=lg
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17446309-lg.jpg
>
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>
> Sunset Beach at Cape May is mobbed at sunset--hundreds of people milling 
> about.  This was at the edge of the crowd.
>
> Please tell me if the second link works better.
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
> Rick
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Re: List news

[Jan van Wijk]

Done

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:49:55 -0400 Doug Brewer wrote:
>
>Contribution is by no means required, but it is requested. Thank you for 
>anything you can do.

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Re: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Chris!

Yes, I was looking for an advert-free way to post them, though I don't care for 
the stark appearance.

Cheers,

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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

Nice shot and interesting perspective. The second link works, but
better? There are no adverts so that's good; so if that defines
"better", then it is!

Chris

On 3 July 2013 02:25, Rick Womer  wrote:
> We interrupt the ongoing catastrophizing for a photo:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17446309&size=lg
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17446309-lg.jpg
>
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>
> Sunset Beach at Cape May is mobbed at sunset--hundreds of people milling 
> about.  This was at the edge of the crowd.
>
> Please tell me if the second link works better.
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
> Rick
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Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Aahz!

Rick
 
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- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: GESO (22) - Balloon adventure

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:
>
> Enough blather!  The gallery is here:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1055134

I'm voting for McMansions -- that's excellent use of a fisheye.
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Re: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Frank!

Lotsa straight sunset shots on the 'puter, too, but they're kinda boring.

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- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 12:11 AM
Subject: RE: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

I expected a straight sunset but instead got a fun people shot with a beautiful 
sunset as a backdrop.

Love it!

cheers,
frank

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From: Rick Womer 
Sent: July 2, 2013 7/2/13
To: Pentax List 
Subject: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

We interrupt the ongoing catastrophizing for a photo:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17446309&size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17446309-lg.jpg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Sunset Beach at Cape May is mobbed at sunset--hundreds of people milling about. 
 This was at the edge of the crowd.

Please tell me if the second link works better.

Comments appreciated!

Rick

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Re: List news

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

> Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old.

Amen. As the plaque in my ex-mother in-law's bathroom said, "Never complain 
about growing old. It is a privilege denied to many."

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Re: istDS

[Steve Cottrell]

Funny old world innit.

In 18 months I will be able to unleash a little buying power as a
pension pot matures, and of course I will want to invest in some camera kit.

At this very moment in time I'm thinking a Fuji X100s.but if I think
back to all the digital cameras I ever used or owned, without doubt the
one I enjoyed the most was the Epson R-D1.

Now there's a camera that not only hasn't been made for a while (only
6MP!) but in fact comes from a company not usually associated with high
end camera production. Yet it is a brilliant genuine rangefinder camera
with a digital sensor and produces some great work with a choice of
lenses from Voigtlander through to anything that will fit a Leica.

My point is that I'm not even considering the state of the company that
made the camera, just the camera. I'm a great believer in 'if the shoe
fits'...

I would possibly be looking at a DSLR also, and I would consider Pentax,
but it would have to be FF and be able to mount my A*85 1.4 on it for
portraits. If Pentax isn't there, then I'd consider a used Canon 1Ds
mark whatever. If Mark can talk me round I might even consider a Sony.

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Re: Pentax is history

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:
> 
> http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309

Just noticed this. After reading all the hand-wringing comments, my reaction 
is, "I love my ist*DS. I'm perfectly happy with it. But maybe I should get 
myself a K-5 ASAP." Not sure it would be wise for me financially, but it's my 
reaction. 

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Re: PESO You lookin' at me?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

An effective image:  sharp, concentrated and a bit eerie.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9099919714/in/set-72157634240779779
>
> Definitely the best of the set, although 5716 comes close.
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Re: PESO - Juvenile Red Winged Blackbird

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Another fine portrait!

I'm quite impressed with your ability to obtain sharp images of these
elusive critters.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:04 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> This completes the family. We've seen Mom, Dad and here's Junior. You can see 
> his red shoulders starting to show:
>
>  
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/juvenile-red-winged-blackbird.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You captured great poses and nice expressions here.  I think that the
pathway on the left adds a lot to the image by way of depth and
context.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
> air time with location lighting gear.
>
> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>
> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>
> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
> #02: Bastard Straw.
> Lr & Nik Suite.
>
> More results coming later.
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Re: PESO - Juvenile Red Winged Blackbird

[Jack Davis]

You're a talented stalker, Frank! You then back it up with some beautifully 
edited shots.

Jack


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Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:04 PM
Subject: PESO - Juvenile Red Winged Blackbird

This completes the family. We've seen Mom, Dad and here's Junior. You can see 
his red shoulders starting to show:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/juvenile-red-winged-blackbird.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO 2013 - 059 - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a mysterious and somehow sensuous image, Godfrey.  I like the
contrast between the bright, warm orange circle and the somewhat
dimmer and much cooler green light.  Keeping the people in the shadows
adds mystery and universality to the scene.

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
 wrote:
> In the middle of 1984, I had tossed most of everything I owned into a 
> friend's closet in Santa Cruz, CA, sold all the rest but what I could carry 
> on a ten year old BMW R75/5, and taken off to circumnavigate the United 
> States. I stopped in New York for a month and some, working odd jobs with 
> friends to raise money for the return trip, and on the way west I stopped in 
> Washington DC to visit a high school buddy who'd moved there to work for the 
> CIA. We spent a few days and nights together bumming around the capitol town.
>
> I just found a few photos from that trip and scanned them recently. Here's 
> one.
>
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9195174817/lightbox
>
> Ah, the years fly. I remember that trip as if it just ended yesterday.
>
> Godfrey
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RE: PESO - Juvenile Red Winged Blackbird

[Gerrit Visser]

That is a lovely pose.

Gerrit

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Subject: PESO - Juvenile Red Winged Blackbird

This completes the family. We've seen Mom, Dad and here's Junior. You can
see his red shoulders starting to show:

 
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/juvenile-red-winged-blackbird.html
?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: Pentax is History

[Gerrit Visser]

Toronto has a Mumbai like-haze for the past 2 days  but of course none of
the other allure of that great city:-).
We generally arrive by cruise ship and they never seem to go as far north as
Bangalore. But a train ride would be a great side show.

When you are next in To we should have a PDML gathering.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 1:57 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Pentax is History

Hey Larry & Gerrit, you are welcome to stay with me in Bangalore. My
daughter in the Bay Area tells me California is sweltering, but here in
Bangalore it is a pleasant 74 degrees F. It is Monsoon season in India.
You folks bet I WILL be changing brands if provoked any further by the
"Idiots" at RICOH. But maybe it takes some time, as I bought the K-5 with
the 18-135 this January. Actually my son who is in Toronto, bought it for me
from Henrys - God Bless the boy. He bought himself a Sony Alpha Nex-3N last
week.
I have an old Ricoh Av Auto + Manual exposure Film camera with manual
focusing. Perhaps you might want it?
Guys, jokes apart, this is not good news for Brand Pentax.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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Re: Pentax is history

[CollinB]

Well, Minolta's designs were improved upon once absorbed by Sony.
Perhaps the same is in store?  My wish would be that Ricoh does not destroy
the whole thing.


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Re: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nice image, Rick!

I know the scene well.;  When my soon was 4 until this senior year in
high school we vacationed every summer in Stone Harbor.  Each trip
included one or two trips each to Wildwood, Cape May itself and Sunset
Beach, in the area we always called Cape May Point.

So the still play Kate Smith as they lower the flag at sunset?  Do
folks still search for Cape May diamonds?  It the concrete ship there?
 Did the boardwalks through the mash for bird watching survive Irene
and Sandy?  Did you climb the light house steps?  Isn't if one of the
hidden gems of the Jersey Shore?

Thanks for posting these images of a place that means so much to me
and many others.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> We interrupt the ongoing catastrophizing for a photo:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17446309&size=lg
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17446309-lg.jpg
>
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>
> Sunset Beach at Cape May is mobbed at sunset--hundreds of people milling 
> about.  This was at the edge of the crowd.
>
> Please tell me if the second link works better.
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
> Rick
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Re: List news

[mike wilson]

On 02/07/2013, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Okay even the 50 cents I gave.

News cinematography industry experiencing a boom, again?

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Re: Pentax is history

[John Mullan]

For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was Pentax 
and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name of 
Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not sure 
that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What 
matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.


jm

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How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309

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Re: List news

[David J Brooks]

Done, and thanks Doug

Dave

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OT Book Review: Direction & Quality of Light

[Bruce Walker]

One of the best bits of enablement I've received recently was a slim
book by Neil van Niekerk, Direction & Quality of Light: Your Key to
Better Portrait Photography Anywhere.

What makes this book unique and so much more useful than hundreds of
gear-oriented books is that it starts from the position of "what do I
do to get better portraits" and works backward to explore how light
quality (ie hard/soft) and posing (eg face into sun, or away from sun)
affect the outcome and what you do to optimize your given situation.

Neil covers purely ambient light, ambient with flash fill, flash with
ambient fill and all flash. He keeps it simple and rarely uses more
than a single flash in his examples. He introduces a trivial trick for
bounce flash that results in softbox quality light and requires only
some black plastic foam and a couple of elastic bands.

Best of all he pairs nearly all the shots with alternate takes that
demonstrate the intermediate steps to getting the best shot. He also
includes pull-back shots that show the setup.

The most bang for your twenty buck bill you'll get all year, imho.

Here's my review of it on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.ca/review/R3F430QNHE12TW

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Re: Pentax is history

[Tom C]

> From: Bipin Gupta 
>
> Tom you missed some facts and misquoted some. I read your article with
> great relish and did find it enlightening though.

Hi Bipin,

I wasn't trying to write a corporate biography. I know that PENTAX
released the K-5 while being under HOYA's banner.

II believe (with little other than corporate sales figures and common
sense to make the statement) that the majority of buyers of a K-5 were
already PENTAX owners. It may have taken the PENTAX world by storm and
surprised some. Even then it was neck and neck IQ-wise with the Nikon
D7000 that essentially used the same sensor. Check the dpreview review
'Conclusions' page.

I'd have personally bought a K-5 but the timing was wrong.  I acquired
a K20D not realizing it was less than a year before the K-7 was
released. Then I bought a K-7, and it was only a year before the K-5
was released. During that time I also purchased several $1000  of
Pentax and SIgma lenses in K-mount. Not knowing if I was staying with
PENTAX I couldn't rationalize a K-5, regardless of how good it was,
because it would be another step down a path I wasn't sure I wanted to
go down.

Tom

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Re: Pentax is history

[Bruce Walker]

I'm in complete agreement, John.

I would note though that their dry and brief press release served to
create alarm and speculation. They'd have done better to include some
context like that Imaging Resource article that Alan pointed out. Now
they've managed to fan the Sky Is Falling thread flames for years to
come.

Yet I still managed to do two back-to-back shoots with my ancient K20
and it didn't fall to pieces or simply go dark on me. :-)


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Mullan  wrote:
> For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was Pentax
> and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name of
> Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not sure
> that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What
> matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.
>
> jm
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM
> To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" 
> Subject: Pentax is history
>
>> How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)
>>
>> No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:
>>
>> http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309
>>
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Re: PESO - Juvenile Red Winged Blackbird

[Bruce Walker]

A super shot, Frank. That does it: I shan't attempt bird photography again. ;-)

Now that you've got portraits of the whole family, I'm sure they'd
love copies for their nest.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:04 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> This completes the family. We've seen Mom, Dad and here's Junior. You can see 
> his red shoulders starting to show:
>
>  
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/juvenile-red-winged-blackbird.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
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Re: Pentax is history

[George Sinos]

Well when I got my first Spotmatic in 1968 it was called Honeywell Pentax.

Anyway, the DSLRs and such are still going to be called Pentax and the
grand majority of consumers will still never hear of them unless they
start advertising.

Seem like a big non-issue too me.

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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I'm in complete agreement, John.
>
> I would note though that their dry and brief press release served to
> create alarm and speculation. They'd have done better to include some
> context like that Imaging Resource article that Alan pointed out. Now
> they've managed to fan the Sky Is Falling thread flames for years to
> come.
>
> Yet I still managed to do two back-to-back shoots with my ancient K20
> and it didn't fall to pieces or simply go dark on me. :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Mullan  wrote:
>> For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was Pentax
>> and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name of
>> Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not sure
>> that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What
>> matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.
>>
>> jm
>>
>> --
>> From: "Bruce Walker" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM
>> To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" 
>> Subject: Pentax is history
>>
>>> How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)
>>>
>>> No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:
>>>
>>> http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309
>>>
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Re: Pentax is history

[George Sinos]

That should be to me, not too me. gs
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, George Sinos  wrote:
> Well when I got my first Spotmatic in 1968 it was called Honeywell Pentax.
>
> Anyway, the DSLRs and such are still going to be called Pentax and the
> grand majority of consumers will still never hear of them unless they
> start advertising.
>
> Seem like a big non-issue too me.
>
> gs
> George Sinos
> 
> www.GeorgesPhotos.net
> www.GeorgeSinos.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> I'm in complete agreement, John.
>>
>> I would note though that their dry and brief press release served to
>> create alarm and speculation. They'd have done better to include some
>> context like that Imaging Resource article that Alan pointed out. Now
>> they've managed to fan the Sky Is Falling thread flames for years to
>> come.
>>
>> Yet I still managed to do two back-to-back shoots with my ancient K20
>> and it didn't fall to pieces or simply go dark on me. :-)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Mullan  wrote:
>>> For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was Pentax
>>> and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name of
>>> Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not sure
>>> that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What
>>> matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.
>>>
>>> jm
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Bruce Walker" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM
>>> To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" 
>>> Subject: Pentax is history
>>>
 How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

 No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

 http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309

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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

I can thank van Niekerk for some of the great skin tones. I followed
his advice to use a straw coloured gel to warm the flash. Works!

Thanks, Philip.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Philip Northeast
 wrote:
> Bruce
> Lovely skin tones and the lighting really makes the happy subjects stand
> out.
>
>
>
> Philip Northeast
>
> www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
>
>
> On 3/07/13 11:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>
>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>
>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>
>> More results coming later.
>>
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

Starting with the lighting then enhancing with Nik Color Efex Pro. The
local contrast effects give it that 3-D pop. Once I saw this shot I
wanted to get a Wizard of Oz movie poster look, so it's brighter and
contrastier than I'd normally go for.

Thanks, Gerrit!

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
> The lighting really makes them look as if standing in front of the backdrop
> :-) Very 3Dish.
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:16 PM
> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
> Subject: PESO Three Amigos
>
> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife and
> our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some air time
> with location lighting gear.
>
> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked up
> Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two two-hour shoots
> and various playing about in my office studio. It folds and mounts like an
> umbrella, is very light weight, and is an amazingly efficient light source.
> It does act like a sail though and very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30
> pound weight on its stand. I need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>
> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots just
> to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>
> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
> #02: Bastard Straw.
> Lr & Nik Suite.
>
> More results coming later.
>
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Walt.

I couldn't wait for the octagonal umbrella softbox I ordered through
eBay as I was suddenly confronted with two impending shoots, so I
zoomed over to my local AV pusher and bought their floor model
Westcott on sale, drastically reduced, with stand and umbrella mount.
When the Chinese knock-off arrives I'll now be able to compare build
quality against the Real Thing. My new Westcott Apollo is the
traditional square shape, while the soon to arrive one is a clone of
the Westcott "Orb", an octagonal shaped softbox. I actually prefer the
rounder octa for its natural looking catchlights.

Good luck with your shoot tonight; break a leg!


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Walt  wrote:
> Beautiful light, Bruce! And a great shot of friends enjoying one another's
> company.
>
> Now that you've served as the guinea pig for the softbox, I'll revisit the
> bookmark from when you pointed it out to me and order one for myself along
> with a genuine lighting stand this week.
>
> I'm doing a portrait shoot tomorrow evening, so I won't have it in time for
> that. But, I'll make the best I can of what I've got at the moment.
>
> Great work. I'm looking forward to trying my hand at eventually getting
> similar results someday.
>
> -- Walt
>
>
>
> On 7/2/2013 8:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>
>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>
>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>
>> More results coming later.
>>
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks, Frank!

This shoot had been postponed from last Thursday when the sky was
similar, and I'd been hoping for a sun/cloud mix again Sunday. When I
arrived at the location (near Mississauga City Hall) the sky looked
like it would thunderstorm and we'd have to postpone again, but it
actually became quite glorious.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Wonderful, relaxed, fun poses really make this. And of course the lighting. 
> And the sky. What a sky.
>
> A real winner, Bruce!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker 
> Sent: July 2, 2013 7/2/13
> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
> Subject: PESO Three Amigos
>
> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
> air time with location lighting gear.
>
> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>
> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>
> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
> #02: Bastard Straw.
> Lr & Nik Suite.
>
> More results coming later.
>
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

I've been blessed with easy to work with folks who joke and get silly
with each other, so I only had to tell them which way to face for the
most part.

This park I found is a photographer's dream too. Intersecting
pathways, formal tree groupings, sculptures, cafe tables and chairs --
it has it all. And hardly any people. I'll return here often!

Thank you, Dan.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> You captured great poses and nice expressions here.  I think that the
> pathway on the left adds a lot to the image by way of depth and
> context.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>
>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>
>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>
>> More results coming later.
>>
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Re: PESO 2013 - 059 - GDG

[Bruce Walker]

The neon-ish colours really make that shot, Godfrey. Very nice!

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
 wrote:
> In the middle of 1984, I had tossed most of everything I owned into a 
> friend's closet in Santa Cruz, CA, sold all the rest but what I could carry 
> on a ten year old BMW R75/5, and taken off to circumnavigate the United 
> States. I stopped in New York for a month and some, working odd jobs with 
> friends to raise money for the return trip, and on the way west I stopped in 
> Washington DC to visit a high school buddy who'd moved there to work for the 
> CIA. We spent a few days and nights together bumming around the capitol town.
>
> I just found a few photos from that trip and scanned them recently. Here's 
> one.
>
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9195174817/lightbox
>
> Ah, the years fly. I remember that trip as if it just ended yesterday.
>
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Re: PESO - Sunset Beach, Cape May

[Bruce Walker]

That's really a good one, Rick. A very fun shooting the shooter shot.

2nd link is a vast improvement, thanks.


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> We interrupt the ongoing catastrophizing for a photo:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17446309&size=lg
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17446309-lg.jpg
>
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>
> Sunset Beach at Cape May is mobbed at sunset--hundreds of people milling 
> about.  This was at the edge of the crowd.
>
> Please tell me if the second link works better.
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
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Re: OT: Now Mozilla is getting on my nerves.

[Bob Sullivan]

ohn,
Tom's right, step into the 2nd decade.
Sent from my Chrome browser after
reading my gmail account.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> John,
>
> This is in jest. Sorry about your troubles.
>
> For God's sake man, step into the second decade of the 21st century
> and use Chrome. Who cares if it's a Google product?
>
> If you've been semi-conscious you'd know that it doesn't matter what
> ISP, email provider, or telecommunications company you partner with.
> The government believes they have the right to monitor it, they
> believe you don't have the right to know they're doing it, and they're
> mad as hell that someone told their dirty little secret.
>
> Tom C.
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Re: Pentax is History

[Bob Sullivan]

Ain't that the truth...
Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
>
>> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are 
>> two entirely separate matters. ;)
>
> Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...
>
> Cheers,
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Re: Pentax is history

[Tom C]

> From: Bob Sullivan 
>
> Ain't that the truth...
> Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
> Regards,  Bob S.

Larry's house.

>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
>>
>>> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are 
>>> two entirely separate matters. ;)
>>
>> Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...
>>
>> Cheers,
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Re: Pentax is history

[Jack Davis]

Tiny nit, Tom. The K-5 soundly out resolved the D7000 and, I was surprised to 
learn, also the current well done D6.

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Subject: Re: Pentax is history


> From: Bipin Gupta 
>
> Tom you missed some facts and misquoted some. I read your article with
> great relish and did find it enlightening though.

Hi Bipin,

I wasn't trying to write a corporate biography. I know that PENTAX
released the K-5 while being under HOYA's banner.

II believe (with little other than corporate sales figures and common
sense to make the statement) that the majority of buyers of a K-5 were
already PENTAX owners. It may have taken the PENTAX world by storm and
surprised some. Even then it was neck and neck IQ-wise with the Nikon
D7000 that essentially used the same sensor. Check the dpreview review
'Conclusions' page.

I'd have personally bought a K-5 but the timing was wrong.  I acquired
a K20D not realizing it was less than a year before the K-7 was
released. Then I bought a K-7, and it was only a year before the K-5
was released. During that time I also purchased several $1000  of
Pentax and SIgma lenses in K-mount. Not knowing if I was staying with
PENTAX I couldn't rationalize a K-5, regardless of how good it was,
because it would be another step down a path I wasn't sure I wanted to
go down.

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Re: istDS

[Aahz Maruch]

On Tue, Jul 02, 2013, Tom C wrote:
>
>> You're being way too alarmist -- even if Pentax went blooie tomorrow,
>> there'll be enough used equipment to keep you going for years.  I've got
>> more reason for concern because I haven't actually bought anything yet,
>> but AFAICT EVERY SINGLE camera company (including Canon and Nikon) is
>> currently a bad long-term bet; the only question is whether I'd get
>> enough use over 5-10 years to warrant a heavy investment in a DSLR-like
>> system.
>>
>> The fact that Ricoh just came out with the K-50 and K-500 is IMO proof
>> that Pentax will be around for at least another year, you don't try to
>> stoke entry-level demand for something you're getting ready to kill.
> 
> Pardon my bluntness.
> 
> Are you stupid or just pretending to be?

Been a while since I've done this, I'm sure someone will correct me if
I'm doing it wrong:

*plonk*
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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #30 - Two worlds

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> I really find it fascinating to observe people and chimps
> communicating through this glass barrier... I wish I could just
> spend a whole day sitting in the shade in front of this location...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/06/2013-30-two-worlds.html

Nice!  Forwarded to my ima.  ;-)
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Re: PESO: Gorgeous eyes

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013, David Parsons wrote:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/9110031409/
> 
> We had some friends over for a cookout, and their 8 month old has the
> most beautiful eyes.  He was sitting in his stroller and I had to get
> some shots of him.  He was a total ham.

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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, Mark C wrote:
>
> I just used a low tech approach for the
> damselfly and set the camera to continuous shooting, focused, and
> then pivoted in and out as the frames snapped off.

So you had the focus locked and were moving the camera?  (Just making
sure I understand you correctly.)
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Re: istDS

[Charles Robinson]

On Jul 3, 2013, at 06:34 , Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> My point is that I'm not even considering the state of the company that
> made the camera, just the camera. I'm a great believer in 'if the shoe
> fits'...
> 

THAT'S IT.  

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Pentax mug

[Steve Cottrell]

Yeah, there's a few on this list ;-)

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Re: istDS

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> My point is that I'm not even considering the state of the company that
> made the camera, just the camera. I'm a great believer in 'if the shoe
> fits'...

Wait, what shoe? I thought it was a hat...

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Re: Pentax is history

[P.J. Alling]

You forgot to blame the spellchecker for not understanding context.

On 7/3/2013 10:56 AM, George Sinos wrote:

That should be to me, not too me. gs
George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, George Sinos  wrote:

Well when I got my first Spotmatic in 1968 it was called Honeywell Pentax.

Anyway, the DSLRs and such are still going to be called Pentax and the
grand majority of consumers will still never hear of them unless they
start advertising.

Seem like a big non-issue too me.

gs
George Sinos

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www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

I'm in complete agreement, John.

I would note though that their dry and brief press release served to
create alarm and speculation. They'd have done better to include some
context like that Imaging Resource article that Alan pointed out. Now
they've managed to fan the Sky Is Falling thread flames for years to
come.

Yet I still managed to do two back-to-back shoots with my ancient K20
and it didn't fall to pieces or simply go dark on me. :-)


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Mullan  wrote:

For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was Pentax
and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name of
Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not sure
that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What
matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.

jm

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How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309

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Re: PESO: Gorgeous eyes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nicely captured!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013, David Parsons wrote:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/9110031409/
>>
>> We had some friends over for a cookout, and their 8 month old has the
>> most beautiful eyes.  He was sitting in his stroller and I had to get
>> some shots of him.  He was a total ham.

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Re: Pentax is history

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:12:53AM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> > From: Bob Sullivan 
> >
> > Ain't that the truth...
> > Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> Larry's house.

He'll turn the light off for ya ...

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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[P.J. Alling]

But, shouldn't that be "Three Amigas"?

On 7/2/2013 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
air time with location lighting gear.

I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
need to refine my sandbagging technique.

I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...

http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj

K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
#02: Bastard Straw.
Lr & Nik Suite.

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Re: Pentax is history

[Aahz Maruch]

My father refuses to use any spillchucker that won't allow removing
"manger".

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:
>
> You forgot to blame the spellchecker for not understanding context.
> 
> On 7/3/2013 10:56 AM, George Sinos wrote:
> >That should be to me, not too me. gs
> >George Sinos
> >
> >www.GeorgesPhotos.net
> >www.GeorgeSinos.com
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, George Sinos  wrote:
> >>Well when I got my first Spotmatic in 1968 it was called Honeywell Pentax.
> >>
> >>Anyway, the DSLRs and such are still going to be called Pentax and the
> >>grand majority of consumers will still never hear of them unless they
> >>start advertising.
> >>
> >>Seem like a big non-issue too me.
> >>
> >>gs
> >>George Sinos
> >>
> >>www.GeorgesPhotos.net
> >>www.GeorgeSinos.com
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >>>I'm in complete agreement, John.
> >>>
> >>>I would note though that their dry and brief press release served to
> >>>create alarm and speculation. They'd have done better to include some
> >>>context like that Imaging Resource article that Alan pointed out. Now
> >>>they've managed to fan the Sky Is Falling thread flames for years to
> >>>come.
> >>>
> >>>Yet I still managed to do two back-to-back shoots with my ancient K20
> >>>and it didn't fall to pieces or simply go dark on me. :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Mullan  wrote:
> For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was 
> Pentax
> and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name of
> Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not 
> sure
> that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What
> matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.
> 
> jm
> 
> --
> From: "Bruce Walker" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM
> To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" 
> Subject: Pentax is history
> 
> >How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)
> >
> >No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:
> >
> >http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309
> >
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Re: Pentax mug

[Walt]

That's pretty damned cool.

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On 7/3/2013 12:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Yeah, there's a few on this list ;-)

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Re: Pentax is History

[P.J. Alling]

There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an 
insane asylum so...


On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ain't that the truth...
Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:


Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are two 
entirely separate matters. ;)

Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...

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Re: Pentax mug

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> 
> I found a little treasure on a rare shopping trip to Oxford today
> 
> 

Congrats!  What'd it cost ya?
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Re: Pentax mug

[Dario Bonazza]

Lovely!

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:01 PM
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Re: Pentax is history

[P.J. Alling]

The K-5 exhibits greater dynamic range than the D7000 as well, also a 
nit I suppose.  The system you buy depends on your needs, expectations 
and desires.


I'm sticking with Pentax because I have over the years collected quite a 
few K mount lenses, mostly Pentax but a few Cult Classic Vivitar Series 
1 lenses.  (Also a few M42, T system, TX, [Vivitar's last 
interchangeable mount not Canon related], system, and Leica S mount 
etc.),  None of the truly expensive rarefied glass such as the A*85mm or 
A*135, but in K mount I have, pretty much the best I could afford from 
17mm to 300mm in primes.


I'm a shooter not a collector, so all of my lenses have been used some 
of them quite hard.  If I were to switch to Canon or Nikon I couldn't 
afford to duplicate what I have, and I certainly wouldn't get much 
selling most of my prime glass, and yes the loss of the DEVICE WHO'S 
NAME SHALL NOT BE SPOKEN annoys me no end.  But you know the situation 
with Nikon isn't really any better with older glass.  Since the advent 
of Digital I end up shooting mostly with the same three Zoom lenses and 
the same 4 or 5 primes because metering is so much more convenient.  
Even replacing my shooting kit with the Canon or Nikon equivalents would 
be cost prohibitive.


So as long as Ricoh continues to make upgraded K mount DSLRs this is 
where I pretty much have to stay.


On 7/3/2013 12:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Tiny nit, Tom. The K-5 soundly out resolved the D7000 and, I was surprised to 
learn, also the current well done D6.

Jack



From: Tom C 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax is history



From: Bipin Gupta 

Tom you missed some facts and misquoted some. I read your article with
great relish and did find it enlightening though.

Hi Bipin,

I wasn't trying to write a corporate biography. I know that PENTAX
released the K-5 while being under HOYA's banner.

II believe (with little other than corporate sales figures and common
sense to make the statement) that the majority of buyers of a K-5 were
already PENTAX owners. It may have taken the PENTAX world by storm and
surprised some. Even then it was neck and neck IQ-wise with the Nikon
D7000 that essentially used the same sensor. Check the dpreview review
'Conclusions' page.

I'd have personally bought a K-5 but the timing was wrong.  I acquired
a K20D not realizing it was less than a year before the K-7 was
released. Then I bought a K-7, and it was only a year before the K-5
was released. During that time I also purchased several $1000  of
Pentax and SIgma lenses in K-mount. Not knowing if I was staying with
PENTAX I couldn't rationalize a K-5, regardless of how good it was,
because it would be another step down a path I wasn't sure I wanted to
go down.

Tom




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Re: OT: Now Mozilla is getting on my nerves.

[Ann Sanfedele]

I use google chrome only when Firefox acts up... when on facebook play 
words with friends the advantage to firefox is you don't get an ad
popping up after every move.  you get a nice little screen that is 
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On 7/3/2013 11:30, Bob Sullivan wrote:

ohn,
Tom's right, step into the 2nd decade.
Sent from my Chrome browser after
reading my gmail account.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Tom C  wrote:

John,

This is in jest. Sorry about your troubles.

For God's sake man, step into the second decade of the 21st century
and use Chrome. Who cares if it's a Google product?

If you've been semi-conscious you'd know that it doesn't matter what
ISP, email provider, or telecommunications company you partner with.
The government believes they have the right to monitor it, they
believe you don't have the right to know they're doing it, and they're
mad as hell that someone told their dirty little secret.

Tom C.

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Re: Pentax is history

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:12:53AM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> > From: Bob Sullivan 
> >
> > Ain't that the truth...
> > Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> Larry's house.

Har!

> 
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it 
> >>> are two entirely separate matters. ;)
> >>
> >> Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dave
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Re: Pentax is History

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
> insane asylum so...

I recently heard an interview with one of the Eagles who said that 
it was just about life in LA in general.  Not nearly as fun.


> 
> On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >Ain't that the truth...
> >Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
> >Regards,  Bob S.
> >
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> >>On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
> >>
> >>>Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it 
> >>>are two entirely separate matters. ;)
> >>Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Dave
> >>
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Re: PAW181 - Roses

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, DagT wrote:
>
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50@21, 1/50s, f/7.1, ISO100, 

Did the link change?  I don't see roses at that link.
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Re: Pentax is history

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:11:36AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote:
> My father refuses to use any spillchucker that won't allow removing
> "manger".

Why am I not at all surprised that your father has some unusual requirements
for software that he uses?


> 
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:
> >
> > You forgot to blame the spellchecker for not understanding context.
> > 
> > On 7/3/2013 10:56 AM, George Sinos wrote:
> > >That should be to me, not too me. gs
> > >George Sinos
> > >
> > >www.GeorgesPhotos.net
> > >www.GeorgeSinos.com
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, George Sinos  wrote:
> > >>Well when I got my first Spotmatic in 1968 it was called Honeywell Pentax.
> > >>
> > >>Anyway, the DSLRs and such are still going to be called Pentax and the
> > >>grand majority of consumers will still never hear of them unless they
> > >>start advertising.
> > >>
> > >>Seem like a big non-issue too me.
> > >>
> > >>gs
> > >>George Sinos
> > >>
> > >>www.GeorgesPhotos.net
> > >>www.GeorgeSinos.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Bruce Walker  
> > >>wrote:
> > >>>I'm in complete agreement, John.
> > >>>
> > >>>I would note though that their dry and brief press release served to
> > >>>create alarm and speculation. They'd have done better to include some
> > >>>context like that Imaging Resource article that Alan pointed out. Now
> > >>>they've managed to fan the Sky Is Falling thread flames for years to
> > >>>come.
> > >>>
> > >>>Yet I still managed to do two back-to-back shoots with my ancient K20
> > >>>and it didn't fall to pieces or simply go dark on me. :-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Mullan  wrote:
> > For many years the company name was Asahi Optical, and the brand was 
> > Pentax
> > and all was right with the world.  To go forward with the company name 
> > of
> > Ricoh and the brand Pentax and now it is the end of the world.  I'm not 
> > sure
> > that the name change is a bad thing or a good thing, it just is.  What
> > matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love.
> > 
> > jm
> > 
> > --
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> > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM
> > To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" 
> > Subject: Pentax is history
> > 
> > >How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)
> > >
> > >No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:
> > >
> > >http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309
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Re: PESO You lookin' at me?

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 08:12:01AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> An effective image:  sharp, concentrated and a bit eerie.

Thanks Dan.

> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9099919714/in/set-72157634240779779
> >
> > Definitely the best of the set, although 5716 comes close.
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Re: Pentax is History

[P.J. Alling]

On 7/3/2013 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:

There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
insane asylum so...

I recently heard an interview with one of the Eagles who said that
it was just about life in LA in general.  Not nearly as fun.


I lived in LA for about a year in the late 90's, I think we're both right.





On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ain't that the truth...
Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:


Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are two 
entirely separate matters. ;)

Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...

Cheers,
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Re: PAW181 - Roses

[DagT]

Den 3. juli 2013 kl. 20:30 skrev Aahz Maruch :

> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, DagT wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50@21, 1/50s, f/7.1, ISO100,
> 
> Did the link change?  I don't see roses at that link.
> -- 

Yup. I use a fairly simple program so if I want the new pictures on top they 
are renumbered. Annoying in some ways, but it also maks deeplinking to my 
pictures impossible. :-)

I'll probably change when I get the time.

The roses are next, number 181.

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OT: "Temptation" making me crazy

[John Sessoms]

Not the PUG theme, real life.

I just ordered a guitar speaker, and when I got home & looked at the
receipt again when I went to file it, it's got the wrong model number.

This is the one I want: G27

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/leslie-g27-1x12-guitar-speaker-cabinet

This is the one on the receipt: G37

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/leslie-g37-100w-1x12-guitar-combo-amp

I'm going through the local branch of a national chain, and they found
one for me "in stock" at a Florida store & it's being drop shipped to me
at home.

I prefer buying through *local* stores because it takes care of the
sales tax at the time of purchase so I don't have to screw with the
internet sales tax when I pay my taxes next year. It may not make a lot
of sense to some, but that internet sales tax just pisses me off, and
any time I can avoid it by buying local, I will.

I don't need the built in amplifier because I want to drive the speaker
with an old blackface Fender Bassman head.

I phoned back to the salesman & asked if he could get his manager to
contact the manager at the Florida branch & make sure the right one is
being shipped to me. As it turns out, the Florida store currently has
both G27 & G37 in stock at the same price & now I'm not sure which one
is headed my way?

You'd think that by now I would have learned to STAY THE HELL OUT OF
MUSIC STORES! But this is one of those bucket list things. I've only
been lusting after a Leslie for my guitar for 45 years. There's just
"Something" in the way it moves.

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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

Well I thought so too, and I looked it up. According to my dictionary
there are no "amigas" and amigos is generic.

But I searched further and I think you're right. So Tres Amigas it
shall henceforth be.

Now, where is the button to edit existing email subjects?



On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> But, shouldn't that be "Three Amigas"?
>
>
> On 7/2/2013 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>
>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>
>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>
>> More results coming later.
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent photo. Great job on the light.

Paul
On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Well I thought so too, and I looked it up. According to my dictionary
> there are no "amigas" and amigos is generic.
> 
> But I searched further and I think you're right. So Tres Amigas it
> shall henceforth be.
> 
> Now, where is the button to edit existing email subjects?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, P.J. Alling  
> wrote:
>> But, shouldn't that be "Three Amigas"?
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/2/2013 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>> 
>>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>> 
>>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>> 
>>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>> 
>>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>> 
>>> More results coming later.
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: Pentax is History

[Paul Stenquist]

And there's a modest hotel named Hotel California on Ocean Boulevard in Santa 
Monica, just about a block south of the pier.

Paul
On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:03 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

> On 7/3/2013 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>> There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
>>> insane asylum so...
>> I recently heard an interview with one of the Eagles who said that
>> it was just about life in LA in general.  Not nearly as fun.
> 
> I lived in LA for about a year in the late 90's, I think we're both right.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Ain't that the truth...
 Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
> 
>> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it 
>> are two entirely separate matters. ;)
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> 
> Cheers,
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Re: PAW181 - Roses

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, DagT wrote:
> Den 3. juli 2013 kl. 20:30 skrev Aahz Maruch :
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, DagT wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>>> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50@21, 1/50s, f/7.1, ISO100,
>> 
>> Did the link change?  I don't see roses at that link.
> 
> Yup. I use a fairly simple program so if I want the new pictures on
> top they are renumbered. Annoying in some ways, but it also maks
> deeplinking to my pictures impossible. :-)
>
> I'll probably change when I get the time.
>
> The roses are next, number 181.

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Re: PESO - Close Encounter

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On Mon, Jun 24, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Oddly, I had a dream last night that I floated up to a large
> mothership and when I woke up this morning I had an unusual oily
> discharge "down there".
>
> More than a coincidence?

Stop eating olestra-laden potato chips and you'll be fine.
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OT Birds-of-Paradise Project

[Bruce Walker]

Incredible footage for Frank and all you bird fans ...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/REP4S0uqEOc

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Re: Pentax is history

[John Sessoms]

Does Tokina still make any lenses in Pentax mount?

From: Zos Xavius

The lens prices are obscene at the moment if you ask me. $1000 for a
12-24? robbery! esp when a tokina copy is like $500..

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Sadly, I looked at lenses today.  A 15 or 20mm Pentax was $650.
Even the humble 40mm was quite pricey.
I guess I'm sticking with what I have, and
will consider another system for full frame wide angle stuff.
I don't think we will survive this transition.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309



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Re: Linux RAW editor/manager? (was Re: OT - Lightzone Open,, Source Photo Editor (Windows, Linux))

[John Sessoms]

From: steve harley

on 2013-07-02 8:18 John Sessoms wrote

From: steve harley

on 2013-07-01 17:02 Darren Addy wrote

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I hate to say it, but when it comes to working on photos, the best
version of Linux is OSX.


Not to be pedantic, but I believe you meant to say "the best version
of Unix is OS X".


i think Larry's statement was in the vein of "my other car is a bicycle"


Are you sure you didn't mean "in the VAIN of ..."?



i'm sure, but i'm not sure why you wonder whether i didn't


It was in the vein of "Vanity thy name is" Larry.

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Re: Pentax is history

[John Sessoms]

Interestingly enough, there was a lightning strike nearby with the
loudest, most ominous thunder I've heard in many a year just as I
started reading this thread. Lights flickered a bit, but none of the
UPSs even beeped.

Probably doesn't really mean anything, just one of those odd coincidences.

8-D

From: Bob Sullivan

Rick,
I'm not saying THE SKY IS FALLING,
just that the weather is moving in and
the ceiling is starting to look a bit low.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

"Pentax is history." "Pentax is dead."  "We're all doomed!"  If I
had a dollar for every thread along these lines I've seen here, I
could be retired rather than working about 70 hours this week.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Subject: Pentax is history

How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309


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Re: Pentax is history

[John Sessoms]

From: "P.J. Alling"

When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography
blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but
unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the
prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the
merger of assets was complete. Will they rebrand the SLR line as Ricoh,
who knows but if they didn't intend to continue making SLR's Ricoh could
have killed the K-50 and K-500.  They didn't so we'll just have to wait
and see.


I don't really care if the name on the front of the camera or the lenses
is Pentax or Ricoh, as long as my K-mount lenses still work & we don't
go back to the days of that problem where the lenses got stuck & you
couldn't get them to come off.

Sony bought Minolta & the name went away. But, old Minolta lenses are
still compatible with Sony's Minolta lens mount (AFAIK) & you still have
to use an adapter to mount a hot-shoe flash on that funky proprietary
mount Minolta had.

So, I don't think this is the end of the world ... YET.

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Re: Pentax is history

[John Sessoms]

From: John Francis

On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 06:26:43PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 2/7/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:


How's that for a provocative subject line? :-)

No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309


So what's in a name then ?

My first ever photography class at junior high school in 1972 was taken
by a teacher with a Pentax hanging from his neck and ever since then I
aspired to that. It was like a brick of gold.


IIRC, while Pentax was (and remains) the brand name, the
company name back in those days was Asahi Optical Co.


And before that, I believe it was either a newspaper company that owned
a brewery or a brewery that owned a newspaper. One or the other.

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Re: OT: Now Mozilla is getting on my nerves.

[John Sessoms]

From: Tom C> John,


This is in jest. Sorry about your troubles.

For God's sake man, step into the second decade of the 21st century
and use Chrome. Who cares if it's a Google product?

If you've been semi-conscious you'd know that it doesn't matter what
ISP, email provider, or telecommunications company you partner with.
The government believes they have the right to monitor it, they
believe you don't have the right to know they're doing it, and they're
mad as hell that someone told their dirty little secret.

Tom C.




Doesn't mean I have to make it any easier for them by putting all my
eggs in one basket.

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Re: Pentax is history

[John Sessoms]

From: Tom C

It's important to note that you were shooting with a Pentax K-7, by my
estimation the absolute worst of all the Pentax DSLRs I used, which would
include all the top models. Even the istD was better in some ways. The K-5 was
a huge upgrade.


Worst how? 2X+ the resolution of the *istD, better dynamic range, DNG,
larger buffer,... I can't think of a thing that was better on the
*istD,

In any case I fly through DTW weekly. Care to meet near the airport
for lunch on a Friday? :)

T


The *ist-D would let you shoot TIFF files in camera. Can't do that with 
the K-7.


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RE: PESO 2013 - 059 - GDG

[John Sessoms]

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

In the middle of 1984, I had tossed most of everything I owned into a
friend's closet in Santa Cruz, CA, sold all the rest but what I could
carry on a ten year old BMW R75/5, and taken off to circumnavigate
the United States. I stopped in New York for a month and some,
working odd jobs with friends to raise money for the return trip, and
on the way west I stopped in Washington DC to visit a high school
buddy who'd moved there to work for the CIA. We spent a few days and
nights together bumming around the capitol town.

I just found a few photos from that trip and scanned them recently.
Here's one.

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9195174817/lightbox

Ah, the years fly. I remember that trip as if it just ended yesterday.


Yeah. The NSA probably does too.  ;-)

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Re: Pentax is history

[P.J. Alling]

I remember reading that Sony has replaced the Minolta proprietary hot 
shoe with something else weather it's another proprietary mount based on 
the ISO standard or something else, I don't know.  The local Camera 
store that carries Sony only has the NEX line in stock.


On 7/3/2013 6:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P.J. Alling"

When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography
blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but
unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the
prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the
merger of assets was complete. Will they rebrand the SLR line as Ricoh,
who knows but if they didn't intend to continue making SLR's Ricoh could
have killed the K-50 and K-500.  They didn't so we'll just have to wait
and see.


I don't really care if the name on the front of the camera or the lenses
is Pentax or Ricoh, as long as my K-mount lenses still work & we don't
go back to the days of that problem where the lenses got stuck & you
couldn't get them to come off.

Sony bought Minolta & the name went away. But, old Minolta lenses are
still compatible with Sony's Minolta lens mount (AFAIK) & you still have
to use an adapter to mount a hot-shoe flash on that funky proprietary
mount Minolta had.

So, I don't think this is the end of the world ... YET.




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Re: Pentax is history

[P.J. Alling]

On 7/3/2013 6:18 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Tom C

It's important to note that you were shooting with a Pentax K-7, by my
estimation the absolute worst of all the Pentax DSLRs I used, which 
would
include all the top models. Even the istD was better in some ways. 
The K-5 was

a huge upgrade.


Worst how? 2X+ the resolution of the *istD, better dynamic range, DNG,
larger buffer,... I can't think of a thing that was better on the
*istD,

In any case I fly through DTW weekly. Care to meet near the airport
for lunch on a Friday? :)

T


The *ist-D would let you shoot TIFF files in camera. Can't do that 
with the K-7.



Yes, but the K-7 lets you shoot DNG...

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Re: Pentax is history

[Zos Xavius]

That is not true...well mostly. You can shoot raw and convert in
camera to TIFF on the K-7. You can't pick TIFF as a default format
though. Personally I would rather have the RAW, especially with the
k-7's noise reduction. LR does a better job in that regard IMO.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Tom C
>>>
>>> It's important to note that you were shooting with a Pentax K-7, by my
>>> estimation the absolute worst of all the Pentax DSLRs I used, which would
>>> include all the top models. Even the istD was better in some ways. The
>>> K-5 was
>>> a huge upgrade.
>>
>>
>> Worst how? 2X+ the resolution of the *istD, better dynamic range, DNG,
>> larger buffer,... I can't think of a thing that was better on the
>> *istD,
>>
>> In any case I fly through DTW weekly. Care to meet near the airport
>> for lunch on a Friday? :)
>>
>> T
>
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> K-7.
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Re: Pentax is history

[Zos Xavius]

The sony proprietary hot shoe was NEX only I believe(I could be
wrong), but I believe that sony is going back to a standard hot shoe
that will take mostly anything.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> I remember reading that Sony has replaced the Minolta proprietary hot shoe
> with something else weather it's another proprietary mount based on the ISO
> standard or something else, I don't know.  The local Camera store that
> carries Sony only has the NEX line in stock.
>
>
> On 7/3/2013 6:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>> From: "P.J. Alling"
>>>
>>> When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography
>>> blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but
>>> unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the
>>> prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the
>>> merger of assets was complete. Will they rebrand the SLR line as Ricoh,
>>> who knows but if they didn't intend to continue making SLR's Ricoh could
>>> have killed the K-50 and K-500.  They didn't so we'll just have to wait
>>> and see.
>>
>>
>> I don't really care if the name on the front of the camera or the lenses
>> is Pentax or Ricoh, as long as my K-mount lenses still work & we don't
>> go back to the days of that problem where the lenses got stuck & you
>> couldn't get them to come off.
>>
>> Sony bought Minolta & the name went away. But, old Minolta lenses are
>> still compatible with Sony's Minolta lens mount (AFAIK) & you still have
>> to use an adapter to mount a hot-shoe flash on that funky proprietary
>> mount Minolta had.
>>
>> So, I don't think this is the end of the world ... YET.
>>
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Re: Pentax is History

[John Sessoms]

Actually, its themes pretty much parallel those expressed in the song
"Life in the Fast Lane" that was also on the album. The whole concept
of the album was pretty much the dark underside of hedonism, greed &
excess infecting the 70s California music scene.

From: "P.J. Alling"

There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
insane asylum so...

On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ain't that the truth...
Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:


Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are two 
entirely separate matters. ;)

Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...

Cheers,
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Re: Pentax is history

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On 2013-07-03 17:54, John Sessoms wrote:

Interestingly enough, there was a lightning strike nearby with the
loudest, most ominous thunder I've heard in many a year just as I
started reading this thread. Lights flickered a bit, but none of the
UPSs even beeped.

Probably doesn't really mean anything, just one of those odd coincidences.


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Hotel California

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On 7/3/2013 6:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Actually, its themes pretty much parallel those expressed in the song
"Life in the Fast Lane" that was also on the album. The whole concept
of the album was pretty much the dark underside of hedonism, greed &
excess infecting the 70s California music scene.

From: "P.J. Alling"

There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
insane asylum so...

On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ain't that the truth...
Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:

Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on 
from it are two entirely separate matters. ;)

Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...

Cheers,
Dave



Ive heard that song so many times now that I simply cant stand it. I 
turn the station every time it comes on the radio.


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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[John Sessoms]

From: Bruce Walker

Well I thought so too, and I looked it up. According to my dictionary
there are no "amigas" and amigos is generic.

But I searched further and I think you're right. So Tres Amigas it
shall henceforth be.

Now, where is the button to edit existing email subjects?


A guy was explaining to me about English & Spanish (from the point of
view of a native Spanish speaker) just last night, and something he said
makes me think it depends on whether it's Los Amigos or Las Amigos.

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Re: Pentax mug

[Steve Cottrell]

On 3/7/13, Aahz Maruch, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Congrats!  What'd it cost ya?

Just under a tenner at a retail shop.

Here's the company. I tried searching for 'photographic memory mug' and
it shows one in the search field but nothing comes up. h.



The designer is Roderick Field.

his website:



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Re: Pentax is History

[John Sessoms]

I don't think it's the one from the album cover though. That one's
somewhere down in Baja.

From: Paul Stenquist

And there's a modest hotel named Hotel California on Ocean Boulevard
in Santa Monica, just about a block south of the pier.

Paul On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:03 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:


On 7/3/2013 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:

There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is
about an insane asylum so...

I recently heard an interview with one of the Eagles who said
that it was just about life in LA in general.  Not nearly as
fun.


I lived in LA for about a year in the late 90's, I think we're both
right.





On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ain't that the truth... Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann
 wrote:

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt 
wrote:


Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and
moving on from it are two entirely separate matters. ;)

Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you
like...

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Re: Pentax is history

[Zos Xavius]

So...I just bought a much sought after decent copy of the A35-105/3.5.
2nd copy I've seen in some months on Pentax Forums. I only need a
couple more lenses to really complete my kit. I want a semi-decent MF
300mm prime, a fast 85mm, a 100mm macro (though I find my 16-45 with
extension tube is *very* macro capable as is my FA 28-80) and a
good old M 135/3.5 would be a nice edition for some portrait work too.
These old lenses are super well built and should last me some years. I
have a growing collection of digital lenses too. I'd love a limited or
two to add inone day. My point is that I love old Pentax glass,
and there seems to be no shortage of it going for alright prices. I
know I love to whine when I notice KEH magically nearly doubles their
prices overnight, but in reality this is a good thing anyways.
Scarcity increases value and the way things are going, all of my glass
will likely sell more for what I bought it for. When I look at what it
would cost to replace some of my most used lenses in Canikon flavors,
I cringe because I'm still getting amazing bang for my buck. People
seem to love my pictures too, and I love the way old glass renders
images. I think it is somewhat unique in a world when 90% of people
out there are shooting canikon and using the same small set of lenses.
If I had a bit more cash going on, I would love to get an old 67 and
switch my film work from 35mm to 6x7. I'm not feeling overly
optimistic about how Pentax has progressed since Ricoh bought them,
but at the same time, that was their swan song and their only chance
at staying as a camera manufacturer. Without Ricoh, Pentax wouldn't
exist today. It seems like they might be content just keeping it a
boutique brand. I hope that isn't the case, but without seeing new
compelling products instead of a few rebadged compacts and a slew of
rehashed DSLRs built on mostly 2010 technology, not to mention that
Q10 and now Q7 are just only marginally better. The Q7 was a nice
move, but they couldn't even redesign the shell for a new sensor? I
don't get it. As polarizing as the K-01 and K-30 were, they were
*different* and interesting. Now we just get some DSLRs that are
basically a K-30 with a new shell. Even the buttons are in the same
exact place, so we can gather that the internals are 99% the same as
the K-30. Meh. We need a true K-5 replacement. Badly. I'm sure that
the next few generations of DSLRs will be ok, but on the day that they
abandon the DSLR or K-mount, I will be certainly looking long and hard
at another system. For right now, the combination of tough bodies,
weather sealing, decent to amazing IQ, vintage glass, and the best
DSLR ergonomics ever are working well for me and what I want to do. As
long as it says pentax across the pentaprism housing and takes my
lenses I don't ultimately care if Hoya or Ricoh or even Quantaray own
it. Ok...maybe not quantaray...but still.

I like Ricoh and their GR-D camera is a stunning piece of technology,
so I wish them the best. I just hope they don't give up on Pentax or
cannibalize whats' left of it. I want to still be a Pentaxian 10 years
from now. Its true about it being like Hotel California. Pentax for
life! (and yes I'm likely just a blind, idiotic fanboythe K-1000
and later K-7 both won my heart so sue me)

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> The sony proprietary hot shoe was NEX only I believe(I could be
> wrong), but I believe that sony is going back to a standard hot shoe
> that will take mostly anything.
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, P.J. Alling  
> wrote:
>> I remember reading that Sony has replaced the Minolta proprietary hot shoe
>> with something else weather it's another proprietary mount based on the ISO
>> standard or something else, I don't know.  The local Camera store that
>> carries Sony only has the NEX line in stock.
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2013 6:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "P.J. Alling"

 When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography
 blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but
 unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the
 prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the
 merger of assets was complete. Will they rebrand the SLR line as Ricoh,
 who knows but if they didn't intend to continue making SLR's Ricoh could
 have killed the K-50 and K-500.  They didn't so we'll just have to wait
 and see.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't really care if the name on the front of the camera or the lenses
>>> is Pentax or Ricoh, as long as my K-mount lenses still work & we don't
>>> go back to the days of that problem where the lenses got stuck & you
>>> couldn't get them to come off.
>>>
>>> Sony bought Minolta & the name went away. But, old Minolta lenses are
>>> still compatible with Sony's Minolta lens mount (AFAIK) & you still have
>>> to use an adapter to mount a hot-shoe flash on that funky proprie

Re: Pentax is history

[steve harley]

on 2013-07-03 15:39 John Sessoms wrote

Does Tokina still make any lenses in Pentax mount?


i think the point is that Pentax & Tokina have (had?) an agreement where Tokina 
would produce the same lens design in other mounts, but not in K mount, which 
is why Tokina doesn't seem to produce K-mount lenses




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Re: Pentax is history

[Zos Xavius]

Yes. The 12-24 was tokina designed and Pentax also shared the 50-135
design with Tokina. I believe Pentax developed that particular lens. I
believe there may be some other Tokina designed lenses with the Pentax
name on them over the years. In fact Pentax has had a long history of
licensing optical designs and/or rebadging lenses from third parties.
The plastic fantastic slower FA 100 macro comes to mind as well as a
few budget A series lenses and even some of the K-mount 80s Takumars.
The new 18-250 or whatever superzoom is just a rebadged Tamron at 2x
the price. There was a solid rumor that Tokina and Pentax have been
working together on some new full frame lenses, but its hard to say
what's really going on with full frame development right now. There
was some initial disclosure and then they suddenly because very quiet
on the subject again. First it was fall 2012.then fall 2013 an
announcement was to be made. Well, now I hear rumors that its being
pushed back to spring 2014. Also the 645D upgrade that was supposed to
be in the works is still a no show. Not really encouraging if you ask
me. I guess time will tell. Pentax really needs to focus on some new
APS-C lenses. The 16-45 and 12-24 are long overdue for replacement and
are both pretty much out of production. The 55-300 could use a refresh
with some WR as well.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:23 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> on 2013-07-03 15:39 John Sessoms wrote
>
>> Does Tokina still make any lenses in Pentax mount?
>
>
> i think the point is that Pentax & Tokina have (had?) an agreement where
> Tokina would produce the same lens design in other mounts, but not in K
> mount, which is why Tokina doesn't seem to produce K-mount lenses
>
>
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Re: Hotel California

[Zos Xavius]

I'm no Eagles fan, though I do like a few of their songs. Lying Eyes
is a favorite because it reminds me exactly of someone I once
datedbut anyways I agree about Hotel California. I could never
hear that song ever again and that would be perfect. Same goes for
Jimmy Buffet's Margaritaville.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> On 7/3/2013 6:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>> Actually, its themes pretty much parallel those expressed in the song
>> "Life in the Fast Lane" that was also on the album. The whole concept
>> of the album was pretty much the dark underside of hedonism, greed &
>> excess infecting the 70s California music scene.
>>
>> From: "P.J. Alling"
>>>
>>> There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
>>> insane asylum so...
>>>
>>> On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Ain't that the truth...
 Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
>
>> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from
>> it are two entirely separate matters. ;)
>
> Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>>
>>
>>
> Ive heard that song so many times now that I simply cant stand it. I turn
> the station every time it comes on the radio.
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Re: Hotel California

[Larry Colen]

Trio Garufa does a very fun tango cover of Hotel California.

Note to Igor, if you don't know TG, check them out, they are the
one tango band I actually like.

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 07:38:24PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote:
> I'm no Eagles fan, though I do like a few of their songs. Lying Eyes
> is a favorite because it reminds me exactly of someone I once
> datedbut anyways I agree about Hotel California. I could never
> hear that song ever again and that would be perfect. Same goes for
> Jimmy Buffet's Margaritaville.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> > On 7/3/2013 6:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, its themes pretty much parallel those expressed in the song
> >> "Life in the Fast Lane" that was also on the album. The whole concept
> >> of the album was pretty much the dark underside of hedonism, greed &
> >> excess infecting the 70s California music scene.
> >>
> >> From: "P.J. Alling"
> >>>
> >>> There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an
> >>> insane asylum so...
> >>>
> >>> On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> 
>  Ain't that the truth...
>  Where in California Is Hotel Pentax.
>  Regards,  Bob S.
> 
>  On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt  wrote:
> >
> >> Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from
> >> it are two entirely separate matters. ;)
> >
> > Welcome to Hotel Pentax.  You can check out any time you like...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Ive heard that song so many times now that I simply cant stand it. I turn
> > the station every time it comes on the radio.
> >
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Re: Pentax is history

[John Sessoms]

The Tiger Direct store here in Raleigh has a couple of Sony models in
stock. I go in there every Wednesday & one of the things I look at is
the cameras, because they were the only store that ever had any NEW
Pentax DSLRs in stock. They had the K-x, the K-r and most recently the
K-30. They haven't had any K-30s for the last month or so.

All three Sony models they have on display in the store have that funky
hot shoe.

From: "P.J. Alling"

I remember reading that Sony has replaced the Minolta proprietary hot
shoe with something else weather it's another proprietary mount based on
the ISO standard or something else, I don't know.  The local Camera
store that carries Sony only has the NEX line in stock.

On 7/3/2013 6:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P.J. Alling"

When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography
blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but
unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the
prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the
merger of assets was complete. Will they rebrand the SLR line as Ricoh,
who knows but if they didn't intend to continue making SLR's Ricoh could
have killed the K-50 and K-500.  They didn't so we'll just have to wait
and see.


I don't really care if the name on the front of the camera or the lenses
is Pentax or Ricoh, as long as my K-mount lenses still work & we don't
go back to the days of that problem where the lenses got stuck & you
couldn't get them to come off.

Sony bought Minolta & the name went away. But, old Minolta lenses are
still compatible with Sony's Minolta lens mount (AFAIK) & you still have
to use an adapter to mount a hot-shoe flash on that funky proprietary
mount Minolta had.

So, I don't think this is the end of the world ... YET.



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Re: Pentax is history

[Zos Xavius]

I think the nex-6 has a standard hot shoe. There was a big backlash
against sony for changing the shoe. I would never personally buy a
sony camera. I think their record with consumers and trying to lock
them in to proprietary accessories as well pulling stunts like putting
illegal rootkits on their music CDs has made me avoid them like the
plague. Too bad too, because in the 90s they made some decent sound
equipment and had a rich history with audio and TV equipment. Their
laptops used to be quality too. I never liked SLT personally. My guess
is that they go mirrorless entirely or that they do something totally
different. Maybe even make the option to flip the mirror. There are
some fierce rumors going around that they are looking to abandon DSLRs
entirely so nothing would surprise me. It really is too bad that
pentax doesn't have any cameras in stores here in the US. They might
actually sell more if they *advertised* and got cameras out there.
Does Pentax USA even have a marketing dept? :(

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> The Tiger Direct store here in Raleigh has a couple of Sony models in
> stock. I go in there every Wednesday & one of the things I look at is
> the cameras, because they were the only store that ever had any NEW
> Pentax DSLRs in stock. They had the K-x, the K-r and most recently the
> K-30. They haven't had any K-30s for the last month or so.
>
> All three Sony models they have on display in the store have that funky
> hot shoe.
>
> From: "P.J. Alling"
>
>> I remember reading that Sony has replaced the Minolta proprietary hot
>> shoe with something else weather it's another proprietary mount based on
>> the ISO standard or something else, I don't know.  The local Camera
>> store that carries Sony only has the NEX line in stock.
>>
>> On 7/3/2013 6:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "P.J. Alling"

 When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography
 blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but
 unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the
 prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the
 merger of assets was complete. Will they rebrand the SLR line as Ricoh,
 who knows but if they didn't intend to continue making SLR's Ricoh could
 have killed the K-50 and K-500.  They didn't so we'll just have to wait
 and see.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't really care if the name on the front of the camera or the lenses
>>> is Pentax or Ricoh, as long as my K-mount lenses still work & we don't
>>> go back to the days of that problem where the lenses got stuck & you
>>> couldn't get them to come off.
>>>
>>> Sony bought Minolta & the name went away. But, old Minolta lenses are
>>> still compatible with Sony's Minolta lens mount (AFAIK) & you still have
>>> to use an adapter to mount a hot-shoe flash on that funky proprietary
>>> mount Minolta had.
>>>
>>> So, I don't think this is the end of the world ... YET.
>
>
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Paul!

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Excellent photo. Great job on the light.
>
> Paul
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> Well I thought so too, and I looked it up. According to my dictionary
>> there are no "amigas" and amigos is generic.
>>
>> But I searched further and I think you're right. So Tres Amigas it
>> shall henceforth be.
>>
>> Now, where is the button to edit existing email subjects?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, P.J. Alling  
>> wrote:
>>> But, shouldn't that be "Three Amigas"?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/2/2013 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
 and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
 air time with location lighting gear.

 I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
 up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
 two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
 folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
 amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
 very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
 need to refine my sandbagging technique.

 I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
 light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
 just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...

 http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj

 K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
 AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
 #02: Bastard Straw.
 Lr & Nik Suite.

 More results coming later.

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Re: Pentax is history

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 09:40:09PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote:

> Does Pentax USA even have a marketing dept? :(

Mark!

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Re: Pentax is history

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On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, Zos Xavius wrote:
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> I think the nex-6 has a standard hot shoe. There was a big backlash
> against sony for changing the shoe. I would never personally buy a
> sony camera. I think their record with consumers and trying to lock
> them in to proprietary accessories as well pulling stunts like putting
> illegal rootkits on their music CDs has made me avoid them like the
> plague. Too bad too, because in the 90s they made some decent sound
> equipment and had a rich history with audio and TV equipment. Their
> laptops used to be quality too.  [...]

You speak precisely for me (I won't work for them, either; they have
offices nearby and advertise regularly for Python programmers).
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