Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 05:27:05PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-25 14:44 Steve Cottrell wrote OMG that was brilliant. amazing, i have seen almost no video of it - broadcast TV is useless and my internet connection is too slow to stream much ? but i've been following through news channels NBC Sports Network carried live coverage of every race, which our TiVo dutifully recorded for us. While I'd have liked to get up to the city and point a Pentax at the spectacle, I just couldn't bring myself to dedicate the amount of time I'd need to stake out a decent photo spot for around 90 minutes of racing (if we were lucky enough to get both races), especially since with the exception of the last few days most of the shore-based shots I saw had a significant amount of haze. And, of course, fan attendance over the last few days has been much higher, so I'd have had to be in position even earlier! My opinion is that Oracle had what was basically a quicker boat, and they learned faster on the water than the Kiwis. Every day the Team USA boat was noticeably better than the day before. The Kiwis started off the event with a perhaps a slight edge, while Oracle were still coming to terms with their equipment. But the combination of Oracle switching in Ben Ainslie as the tactician, and the Oracle shore crew being better at changing the boat overnight to get more speed, tipped the balance the other way. Then a little bit of bad luck (like one race being called because the wind speed got too high, and another one because the race exceeded the extremely tight time limit) took what looked like two certain race wins away from the Kiwis, either one of which would have given them the America's Cup. That meant more days of racing, and every day Oracle got just a little bit faster. Put all that together with some rather uncharacteristic slips from the usually unflappable Dean Barker (the NZ helmsman) and the writing was on the wall. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, by the result. If the Kiwis had managed to pull off the win my wife and I were considering a return visit to Auckland in a couple of years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F*250-600 repair
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:01 AM, SV Hovland pdml.sv at heime.org wrote: Hi. Does someone on this list know where I can find a repair manual for a F*250-600 or know how to open it? Answer for the second part of the question: If the manual is in PDF, you can open it with e.g. Acrobat Reader. If it is printed, - you can employ the acient (almost forgotten) technique for turning pages with your finger tips. :-P~~~ ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F*250-600 repair
:-) Fra: PDML [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Igor Roshchin [s...@komkon.org] Sendt: 26. september 2013 08:40 Til: PDML@pdml.net Emne: Re: F*250-600 repair On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:01 AM, SV Hovland pdml.sv at heime.org wrote: Hi. Does someone on this list know where I can find a repair manual for a F*250-600 or know how to open it? Answer for the second part of the question: If the manual is in PDF, you can open it with e.g. Acrobat Reader. If it is printed, - you can employ the acient (almost forgotten) technique for turning pages with your finger tips. :-P~~~ ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 25/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Correct. Which of course I won't be doing. My son sends a photocopy of his student ID to Adobe, they send back the serial. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On 25/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm truly delighted by the old Zeiss uncoated lenses I've acquired with the Robot cameras, and the new-yet-old Voigtländer designs epitomized by the Color Skopar 21, 28, 35 and 50 mm. I was just testing the Color Skopar 28mm f/3.5 with the E-PL1 ... it is such a fine lens. :-) I'm considering the purchase of a Heliar 15/4.5 - ironically I have had this lens int he past which I used with my R-D1. I sold it! Smaller than a Fuji 14 and the manual focus capabilities of the EX-1 is really good - autofocus isn't something I associate with wide angle lenses. Anyone thinking of selling a Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5, please approach in confidence ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Holy chilé
G'day all Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New Mexico: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.html They take their chile/chili/chilli seriously -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Holy chilé
I love it! On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New Mexico: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.html They take their chile/chili/chilli seriously -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
Very nice lens! I keep thinking of one of them too. It works well on all three format cameras. Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 25/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm truly delighted by the old Zeiss uncoated lenses I've acquired with the Robot cameras, and the new-yet-old Voigtländer designs epitomized by the Color Skopar 21, 28, 35 and 50 mm. I was just testing the Color Skopar 28mm f/3.5 with the E-PL1 ... it is such a fine lens. :-) I'm considering the purchase of a Heliar 15/4.5 - ironically I have had this lens int he past which I used with my R-D1. I sold it! Smaller than a Fuji 14 and the manual focus capabilities of the EX-1 is really good - autofocus isn't something I associate with wide angle lenses. Anyone thinking of selling a Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5, please approach in confidence ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 9/26/2013 5:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Correct. Which of course I won't be doing. My son sends a photocopy of his student ID to Adobe, they send back the serial. How big a package of it do they send? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Holy chilé
You have no idea. Probably a reference to one of these movies. Holy Tortilla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxphsRcUGKw and Tortilla Heaven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3tt_WfVnLY On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I love it! On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New Mexico: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.html They take their chile/chili/chilli seriously -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 26/9/13, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: How big a package of it do they send? not arrived yet will report back -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Creepy Neighbors (spider alert)
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Yolanda Rowe yprowe at gmail.com wrote: John S, I share your 'love' of spiders of any size, and I think they know it. Sometimes it seems that I have a target on my back. I have seen some of the largest specimens of my life since we moved to western Tennessee a few years ago. Garden spiders are nothing new, but I keep reminding myself that the fatter they get from eating the bugs, the healthier my flowers should be. I haven't been able to rationalize the existence of the wolf spider. This one adds and extra level of freak-out due to its size. http://yolandarowe.smugmug.com/Photography/PDML/n-LKWPP The first one is colorful. Wed Sep 25 23:10:27 EDT 2013 Yolanda Rowe wrote: I'd have put my house on the market if either of the ones I shot were in the house proper. Finding that wolf spider in the breezeway was too close for comfort. The Dachshund had to take an alternate route for his walks for a couple of weeks. LOL I had one that lived at the bottom of the kitchen window for several months, back in San Diego. It was a nice symbiosis: he(she?) was catching fruit flies. One day I spent about 3 hours shooting it: http://42graphy.org/galleries/spider/ (sorry, I did that gallery in Flash and never got to redo it in HTML.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F*250-600 repair
I have a Pentax repair manual for the Auto110 that my friendly local (used to be) factory authorized repair guy gave me. It's on microfiche. On 9/26/2013 2:40 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:01 AM, SV Hovland pdml.sv at heime.org wrote: Hi. Does someone on this list know where I can find a repair manual for a F*250-600 or know how to open it? Answer for the second part of the question: If the manual is in PDF, you can open it with e.g. Acrobat Reader. If it is printed, - you can employ the acient (almost forgotten) technique for turning pages with your finger tips. :-P~~~ ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
Got spamcopped from Yahoo, so I'll try again from the other side. On 9/26/2013 9:18 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 9/26/2013 5:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Correct. Which of course I won't be doing. My son sends a photocopy of his student ID to Adobe, they send back the serial. How big a package of it do they send? The box says NET WT 24.8 OZ (1 LB 8.8 0Z)(703 g), but some settling of contents may occur. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
oops, sorry for that. Yea, it was a Kiwi boat that lost to Oracle. Youse guys all sound alike to me. ;-) -Original Message- From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT - ORACLE WIN On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:24 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Credit where it's due - he dragged in Sir Ben so that was the key. I believe that and the constant massaging of the Orcale boat after each race, which was apparently more effective than any messaging on the Aussie boat. So Sir Ben and boat spped won the cup. Wash your bloody mouth out! Oh wait, Oracle won... yeah it's an Aussie boat. ;) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: My New Lâg T66D
Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
Walt, does it take pictures?? Jack From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:56 AM Subject: PESO: My New Lâg T66D Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
Congrats, Walt! You'll have to let us know how it goes on your NGD. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NGD On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
Not yet! But with a little practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MAHQhKe7Q On 9/26/2013 11:12 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Walt, does it take pictures?? Jack From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:56 AM Subject: PESO: My New Lâg T66D Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
Thanks, Darren! I'll have to be sure and document my NGD. It's cool that someone actually codified it into the lexicon. -- Walt On 9/26/2013 11:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Congrats, Walt! You'll have to let us know how it goes on your NGD. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NGD On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New autofocus patent - phase detection at every pixel
http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/09/26/new-olympus-patent-puts-phase-detection-at-every-pixel-on-a-sensor/ Looks good on paper, I wonder how will it turn out. There might be some compromise in light gathering ability. The UI will have to be changed, I don't want to press the down button 1209 times and the right button 3671 times to set a focus point:) A combination of a touch screen and fine tuning with buttons afterwards might work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
That's one good looking guitar! Enjoy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
Thanks, Attila! I've got my fingers crossed that I'll be able to pick it up a few days early. I just can't get over the difference between it and my Yamaha. I sneer a little bit whenever I walk by it now. -- Walt On 9/26/2013 11:56 AM, Attila Boros wrote: That's one good looking guitar! Enjoy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F*250-600 repair
Do you even have a reader? More importantly, does anybody? On 9/26/2013 11:02 AM, John wrote: I have a Pentax repair manual for the Auto110 that my friendly local (used to be) factory authorized repair guy gave me. It's on microfiche. On 9/26/2013 2:40 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:01 AM, SV Hovland pdml.sv at heime.org wrote: Hi. Does someone on this list know where I can find a repair manual for a F*250-600 or know how to open it? Answer for the second part of the question: If the manual is in PDF, you can open it with e.g. Acrobat Reader. If it is printed, - you can employ the acient (almost forgotten) technique for turning pages with your finger tips. :-P~~~ ;-) Igor -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F*250-600 repair
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Do you even have a reader? More importantly, does anybody? I'd think a flatbed scanner would work fine for microfiche. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New autofocus patent - phase detection at every pixel
I expect the biggest problem will be with processing the data from each sensor, (really it's multiple AF sensors at the pixel level, Pentax has 11 AF sensors and struggles to process the data, think how much data would be involved with 16 million sensors)*. Luckily processing power becomes cheaper and cheaper, unluckily it will still probably use large amounts of power, adding to any heat dissipation problems. *Tongue firmly in cheek, but still not a trivial computing problem. On 9/26/2013 12:51 PM, Attila Boros wrote: http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/09/26/new-olympus-patent-puts-phase-detection-at-every-pixel-on-a-sensor/ Looks good on paper, I wonder how will it turn out. There might be some compromise in light gathering ability. The UI will have to be changed, I don't want to press the down button 1209 times and the right button 3671 times to set a focus point:) A combination of a touch screen and fine tuning with buttons afterwards might work. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New autofocus patent - phase detection at every pixel
Well, they already have the touch screen in place... :-) My understanding is that they filed several patents for on-chip PDAF sensor designs and went with one of the simpler, more practical and cost effective ones for the E-M1. My hands on testing with two lenses indicated it was about as effective if not better than their last pro-grade SLR, the E-5, which was quite good enough for me. It's coming to be that AF systems are far more complicated than I want to invest the time to learn how to use them. Give me peaking with magnification, like the Ricoh GXR, and a manual focus lens ... Seems to work well enough for most of what I do and takes 20 seconds to learn. Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/09/26/new-olympus-patent-puts-phase-detection-at-every-pixel-on-a-sensor/ Looks good on paper, I wonder how will it turn out. There might be some compromise in light gathering ability. The UI will have to be changed, I don't want to press the down button 1209 times and the right button 3671 times to set a focus point:) A combination of a touch screen and fine tuning with buttons afterwards might work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New autofocus patent - phase detection at every pixel
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:33 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I expect the biggest problem will be with processing the data from each sensor, (really it's multiple AF sensors at the pixel level, Pentax has 11 AF sensors and struggles to process the data, think how much data would be involved with 16 million sensors)*. Automatic AF point selection would be insane in this case, but still wouldn't need to process every sensor (maybe just in the worst case scenario). I was just thinking about manually selecting _one_ active AF point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Behold the K-3!
This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote: The M mount has a short registration, but the lenses designed for the M mount were not originally designed for a digital sensor. That's the issue there, not the short registration. The reason a short registration distance is favorable to digital sensors is that you can design the lens to have more elements behind the primary nodal point to help re-direct the light path across the image field to intercept the sensor orthogonally. In theory, I agree - but for compatibility reasons I don't expect this to change. Does it mean the future lenses should be designed in the same manner? It means that, in the future, lenses should be designed with the light path optimized for digital sensors in mind. This has no influence on their use with film cameras, if such use is desired. If the manufacturer continues to desire compatibility with older lenses for new bodies, it means that sensor customization and optimization to include those older lenses must be incorporated as well. Let me rephrase that: would a newly designed telecentric lens have issues, with offset microlenses? (it's the other way around) Of course, new sensors could make this a non-issue. This was not a consideration in designing lenses for use with film, and for compactness reasons (amongst others) RF film camera lenses were designed with very tight primary nodal point to imaging plane distances. SLR film camera lenses had to clear the swinging mirror, which was the primary reason for the deep mount registration and fostered lens designed that were 'naturally' more akin to digital sensor lens designs. Precisely; it was a coincidence but the old lenses - the better ones - are working quite well for digital sensors, because of this. With the large focal range specific to a DSLR, using offset microlenses would not be an option. Offset micro-lenses is only one implementation available to optimize a sensor for older lenses. It's not the one being used by Leica in the M Type 240, for instance. Canon used offset micro-lenses in their first full-frame DSLR, but it raised some interesting issues with specifically the shorter focal lengths that they were trying to correct for. They've changed designs since then too. The telecentricity Olympus loudly promoted was a natural characteristic of the classic SLR lenses. No, it isn't. SLR lenses are not necessarily telecentric designs. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecentric_lens for a simple definition of a telecentric lens design. You are, of course, correct. However, I wasn't talking about telecentric lenses in a strict sense (and AFAIK FourThirds lenses themselves are near telecentric designs). My point was... wait, you explained it nicely: SLR lens designs have to clear the swinging mirror, which with short focal lengths tends to mean using a retrofocus or inverted-telephoto design to project the primary nodal point to the rear of the lens allowing the hard bits to move forward out of the way of the mirror, rather than a symmetric design which tends to have hard bits projecting deep into the camera as focal length decreases. A side-effect of these SLR short-focal-length lens designs is that they're more easily compatible with digital sensors because of this. (For instance, the Pentax FA24/2 AL ... a terrific lens on film ... performed poorly on digital sensors, showing both lateral and longitudinal chromatic aberrations, issues with corner sharpness, etc. Other SLR lenses have done better.) Many pre-digital SLR lenses do work very well indeed. Few to none work as well as lenses which are optimized for digital sensors with respect to measurable lens performance criteria. However, I often use older lenses because they have pleasing aberrations, image rendering, and quirks that I like—so what works well is a judgement call beyond simplistic performance measurement. I'm afraid it is; with no new FourThirds lenses since 2008, and the 2010's E-5 being replaced by the EM-1, as Olympus says. Maybe not buried, but they're definitely phasing it out. Being able to adapt your lenses on another mount doesn't change this. I guess you want to debate the meaning of dead and buried. Not really, I'll replace dead and buried with being phased out if that makes you more comfortable. No one likes to be told he's using dead and buried things... To me, dead and buried means the bodies that take a lens' mount are out of production, and the lens cannot be used on any other in-production body, with or without adapter, and provide the lens full functionality. Most dead and buried lens mounts are also out of production, although there are some exceptions. For example, Pentax M42 lenses are dead and buried as there are no longer any bodies being manufactured that
Re: Behold the K-3!
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ I'm not going to believe anything until I see it from Ricoh. There've been too many rumors for far too long, and I'm done getting my hopes up. Besides, the font of the K-3 brand doesn't look right, and I doubt they'd put a superzoom lens on a high-end body for promotional photos. I'm betting it's fake. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
on 2013-09-26 24:25 John Francis wrote On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 05:27:05PM -0600, steve harley wrote: amazing, i have seen almost no video of it - broadcast TV is useless and my internet connection is too slow to stream much ? but i've been following through news channels NBC Sports Network carried live coverage of every race, which our TiVo dutifully recorded for us. i'm sure that was nice but i don't have cable; we tried cable for the 2000 Olympics and the sailing coverage (among other obscure sports we wanted to see) was worthless; dropped cable shortly after but stuck with TiVo -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. I do believe the K-3 will be announced in October, but beyond that I have no idea what to expect from it. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ I'm not going to believe anything until I see it from Ricoh. There've been too many rumors for far too long, and I'm done getting my hopes up. Besides, the font of the K-3 brand doesn't look right, and I doubt they'd put a superzoom lens on a high-end body for promotional photos. I'm betting it's fake. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On 9/24/2013 9:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: What if the new high end, full frame sensor, camera coming from Ricoh were not a Pentax mount, but a Leica mount? Ideally a mount that is mechanically compatible with traditional Leica glass, but with contacts for autofocus etc. And what if, just for the hell of it, they also sold an adapter that allowed use of K-mount lenses in full auto focus? Even if it were just full autofocus on the SDM lenses. When you get down to it, Ricoh does almost sound like Leica said with a Japanese accent. Why would you need AF, Larry? No, seriously, Leica M-mount is inherently manual focus. The idea of mounting something like DA* 16-50 on a camera that small is bizarre to me. There is already a variety of K-mount-to-M-mount adapters, one of which I have and which works wonderfully in terms of aperture control and ease of ergonomics. I don't know though in terms of business, agreements, royalties and patents, whether your idea would make sense to Ricoh business people. We've just returned from the trip to Holland, Germany and Belgium where we met some wonderful PDMLers. I should tell you that my photo bag had no AF lenses, and in fact no Pentax gear whatsoever, beside little PS camera that Anat used all along. The thought that AF might benefit me never crossed my mind Well, I admit, I got lazy in the wineries in the region between Cologne/Bonn and Koblenz and so I used the AF modules. Galia used AF modules most of the time. Her pics are lovely. So are mine (allowing myself a certain amount of immodesty here)... Honestly and may be somewhat brutally I am thinking that Pentax/Ricoh should put limits as to how unusual their gear might be. Niche approach is good, but the niche has to enjoy sufficient market demand nonetheless... Also, technically, either your idea will give birth to something fairly frankenstatic :-) or you will loose at least some of the backward compatibility with older lenses. Just imagine the variety of mount version (in terms of exposure control and AF) that the adapter you suggest would have to support. The idea that some of electronics/mechanics necessary to operate K-mount lenses will be present in M-mount body is pretty alien to my mind, however limited the said mind may be. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
quoting photorumors themselves: I don't think so, digicame-info always posts real stuff, they have an excellent track record. A grain of salt might be necessary here... On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. I do believe the K-3 will be announced in October, but beyond that I have no idea what to expect from it. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ I'm not going to believe anything until I see it from Ricoh. There've been too many rumors for far too long, and I'm done getting my hopes up. Besides, the font of the K-3 brand doesn't look right, and I doubt they'd put a superzoom lens on a high-end body for promotional photos. I'm betting it's fake. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nfWxVV3SLpI/UkRyhGCADuI/Sgc/0UuYK1ZkO8Y/d/PentaxK-3_02.jpgg It looks real On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: quoting photorumors themselves: I don't think so, digicame-info always posts real stuff, they have an excellent track record. A grain of salt might be necessary here... On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. I do believe the K-3 will be announced in October, but beyond that I have no idea what to expect from it. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ I'm not going to believe anything until I see it from Ricoh. There've been too many rumors for far too long, and I'm done getting my hopes up. Besides, the font of the K-3 brand doesn't look right, and I doubt they'd put a superzoom lens on a high-end body for promotional photos. I'm betting it's fake. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
Looks is a keyword for me in this sentence... It will *be* real, when it is announced. Before then - naturally dwelling in rumours is rightful and valid thing to do, but personally - I much rather we talked about art or photography... On 9/26/2013 9:43 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nfWxVV3SLpI/UkRyhGCADuI/Sgc/0UuYK1ZkO8Y/d/PentaxK-3_02.jpgg It looks real On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: quoting photorumors themselves: I don't think so, digicame-info always posts real stuff, they have an excellent track record. A grain of salt might be necessary here... On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. I do believe the K-3 will be announced in October, but beyond that I have no idea what to expect from it. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ I'm not going to believe anything until I see it from Ricoh. There've been too many rumors for far too long, and I'm done getting my hopes up. Besides, the font of the K-3 brand doesn't look right, and I doubt they'd put a superzoom lens on a high-end body for promotional photos. I'm betting it's fake. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Creepy Neighbors (spider alert)
Nice symbiosis for sure. You captured the event very well; there's so much detail that I actually cringed. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Yolanda Rowe yprowe at gmail.com wrote: John S, I share your 'love' of spiders of any size, and I think they know it. Sometimes it seems that I have a target on my back. I have seen some of the largest specimens of my life since we moved to western Tennessee a few years ago. Garden spiders are nothing new, but I keep reminding myself that the fatter they get from eating the bugs, the healthier my flowers should be. I haven't been able to rationalize the existence of the wolf spider. This one adds and extra level of freak-out due to its size. http://yolandarowe.smugmug.com/Photography/PDML/n-LKWPP The first one is colorful. Wed Sep 25 23:10:27 EDT 2013 Yolanda Rowe wrote: I'd have put my house on the market if either of the ones I shot were in the house proper. Finding that wolf spider in the breezeway was too close for comfort. The Dachshund had to take an alternate route for his walks for a couple of weeks. LOL I had one that lived at the bottom of the kitchen window for several months, back in San Diego. It was a nice symbiosis: he(she?) was catching fruit flies. One day I spent about 3 hours shooting it: http://42graphy.org/galleries/spider/ (sorry, I did that gallery in Flash and never got to redo it in HTML.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 09:34:21PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: On 9/24/2013 9:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: What if the new high end, full frame sensor, camera coming from Ricoh were not a Pentax mount, but a Leica mount? Ideally a mount that is mechanically compatible with traditional Leica glass, but with contacts for autofocus etc. And what if, just for the hell of it, they also sold an adapter that allowed use of K-mount lenses in full auto focus? Even if it were just full autofocus on the SDM lenses. When you get down to it, Ricoh does almost sound like Leica said with a Japanese accent. Why would you need AF, Larry? No, seriously, Leica M-mount is inherently manual focus. The idea of mounting something like DA* 16-50 on a camera that small is bizarre to me. There is already a variety of K-mount-to-M-mount adapters, one of which I have and which works wonderfully in terms of aperture control and ease of ergonomics. Why would I need AF? When it focuses on the right thing, AF can focus more precisely than manual. Why would Ricoh need AF on the mount? Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. I don't know though in terms of business, agreements, royalties and patents, whether your idea would make sense to Ricoh business people. Neither do I, but I find the concept entertaining. We've just returned from the trip to Holland, Germany and Belgium where we met some wonderful PDMLers. I should tell you that my photo bag had no AF lenses, and in fact no Pentax gear whatsoever, beside little PS camera that Anat used all along. The thought that AF might benefit me never crossed my mind Well, I admit, I got lazy in the wineries in the region between Cologne/Bonn and Koblenz and so I used the AF modules. Galia used AF modules most of the time. Her pics are lovely. So are mine (allowing myself a certain amount of immodesty here)... Sounds wonderful. I shot for about 35 years without autofocus, except on a pocket camera that I always carried with me in Singapore. One of the things that I needed to learn when I got back into photography a few years back was when to admit that the camera could do a better job than I. When it works, AF tends to be faster and more accurate than manual focus. I would not expect an M-K adapter to have a screw drive, but I thought that it could have contacts to control an SDM AF lens. There are a lot of engineering reasons for a new mount to be a completely new mount, large enough in diameter and short enough in register so that anything could be adapted to it. Honestly and may be somewhat brutally I am thinking that Pentax/Ricoh should put limits as to how unusual their gear might be. Niche approach is good, but the niche has to enjoy sufficient market demand nonetheless... Also, technically, either your idea will give birth to something fairly frankenstatic :-) or you will loose at least some of the backward compatibility with older lenses. Just imagine the variety of mount version (in terms of exposure control and AF) that the adapter you suggest would have to support. The idea that some of electronics/mechanics necessary to operate K-mount lenses will be present in M-mount body is pretty alien to my mind, however limited the said mind may be. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
Gee, but I wonder why it isn't as SHARP as the one on the left. And are you telling me you can't see the uneven spots in the circles of the lens front? On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nfWxVV3SLpI/UkRyhGCADuI/Sgc/0UuYK1ZkO8Y/d/PentaxK-3_02.jpgg It looks real On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: quoting photorumors themselves: I don't think so, digicame-info always posts real stuff, they have an excellent track record. A grain of salt might be necessary here... On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. I do believe the K-3 will be announced in October, but beyond that I have no idea what to expect from it. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ I'm not going to believe anything until I see it from Ricoh. There've been too many rumors for far too long, and I'm done getting my hopes up. Besides, the font of the K-3 brand doesn't look right, and I doubt they'd put a superzoom lens on a high-end body for promotional photos. I'm betting it's fake. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ Has anyone stopped to think that it really makes no difference if it's fake or real? Either way it's just a picture of a camera. It won't do anything for you that any other picture of a camera won't do. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
Leica seem to be having no issues selling all manual focus Leica M bodies and lenses, Larry. They are the camera company with the highest growth rate in camera sales by unit volume and profitability since 2009. :-) Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
oh please. growing from selling 20 cameras to 30 is hardly setting precedent! and their profit margins are insane because they keep ramping prices on their gear. the new noctilux is like $10,000. No wonder they are profitable On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Leica seem to be having no issues selling all manual focus Leica M bodies and lenses, Larry. They are the camera company with the highest growth rate in camera sales by unit volume and profitability since 2009. :-) Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
My GOD. He's RIGHT. Now I know why we pay him the big bucks. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ Has anyone stopped to think that it really makes no difference if it's fake or real? Either way it's just a picture of a camera. It won't do anything for you that any other picture of a camera won't do. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
precedent I meantsent too fast there...I'm just pointing out that their growth rate means nothing when canikon sells hundreds of cameras every day On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: oh please. growing from selling 20 cameras to 30 is hardly setting precedent! and their profit margins are insane because they keep ramping prices on their gear. the new noctilux is like $10,000. No wonder they are profitable On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Leica seem to be having no issues selling all manual focus Leica M bodies and lenses, Larry. They are the camera company with the highest growth rate in camera sales by unit volume and profitability since 2009. :-) Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
It might be the real thing, but if so Ricoh kept the basic body that hasn't changed all that much since the K-7, so its not particularly exciting. On 9/26/2013 2:05 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
Sure, but I love the K-5 body, so if this is true it makes me excited. :-) 26. sep. 2013 kl. 22:23 skrev P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: It might be the real thing, but if so Ricoh kept the basic body that hasn't changed all that much since the K-7, so its not particularly exciting. On 9/26/2013 2:05 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:28:43PM +0200, DagT wrote: Sure, but I love the K-5 body, so if this is true it makes me excited. :-) I like the idea that the spare batteries I have for my two K-5 bodies might work in the K-3. If I had a battery grip, I'd be totally stoked that it would probably work with the K-3, rather than having to buy a new one of those as well. Since I tend to carry my camera with me all of the time, I wouldn't mind if it were smaller, but I don't think that's feasible, and would cause wailing and moaning from others. 26. sep. 2013 kl. 22:23 skrev P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: It might be the real thing, but if so Ricoh kept the basic body that hasn't changed all that much since the K-7, so its not particularly exciting. On 9/26/2013 2:05 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
and those are all good things, but the fact that the body hasn't changed means that camera pr0n just isn't all that exciting. I need some actual camera intercourse. On 9/26/2013 4:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:28:43PM +0200, DagT wrote: Sure, but I love the K-5 body, so if this is true it makes me excited. :-) I like the idea that the spare batteries I have for my two K-5 bodies might work in the K-3. If I had a battery grip, I'd be totally stoked that it would probably work with the K-3, rather than having to buy a new one of those as well. Since I tend to carry my camera with me all of the time, I wouldn't mind if it were smaller, but I don't think that's feasible, and would cause wailing and moaning from others. 26. sep. 2013 kl. 22:23 skrev P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: It might be the real thing, but if so Ricoh kept the basic body that hasn't changed all that much since the K-7, so its not particularly exciting. On 9/26/2013 2:05 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
I saw an interview done with Oracle owner Larry Ellison where he said one of the reasons for the A C 72 boat was to get more spectator involvement and move the sport closer to the more extreme sports and hopefully get a younger crowd interested. When questioned about the costs of the 72's he said he might propose a smaller boat, A C 45, along the same lines as the A C 72's, with about a third the wing area of the 72, with a crew of 5 vs 11. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT - ORACLE WIN On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 25/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Boats seem to be the form of transportation that hold the least interest to me. Mind you, ships can be pretty cool, when you start talking engines bigger than some houses that I've lived in, that's getting pretty cool. The sailing in these big catamarans with hydrofoils is superb. Sailing racing is a bit like chess - tactics and the ability to think several moves ahead are crucial. No engines here mate - wind, water and winning ability. You can say that again. I'm no sailing enthusiast but I'm still highly impressed watching these boats. Have a read... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC72 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:52:55PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Leica seem to be having no issues selling all manual focus Leica M bodies and lenses, Larry. They are the camera company with the highest growth rate in camera sales by unit volume and profitability since 2009. :-) I grant you that Leicas are good cameras, but they have one thing going for them that no other brand has, the snob appeal that goes with the red dot which says I can spend $7,000 on a camera body, and the GDP of a small country on lenses. Just as the majority of Ferrari and Porsche owners have never taken a lap of a racetrack at speed, I'm willing to bet that brand status has more to do with the buying decisions of most Leica customers than their ability to use the superior performance of the cameras. Seriously, compare the mechanical design of the M-9 versus the Nikon D600. If they wanted to, they could could probably build one to sell for $2,000, rather than $8,000, but that wouldn't appeal to their niche market. A niche market which is undoubtably far more profitable than a bunch of middle aged curmudgeons who natter on endlessly about cormorants, puns and aperture simulators. Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
Not every company is Leica, and they were struggling a few years ago. On 9/26/2013 3:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Leica seem to be having no issues selling all manual focus Leica M bodies and lenses, Larry. They are the camera company with the highest growth rate in camera sales by unit volume and profitability since 2009. :-) Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:41:30PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I saw an interview done with Oracle owner Larry Ellison where he said one of the reasons for the A C 72 boat was to get more spectator involvement and move the sport closer to the more extreme sports and hopefully get a younger crowd interested. When questioned about the costs of the 72's he said he might propose a smaller boat, A C 45, along the same lines as the A C 72's, with about a third the wing area of the 72, with a crew of 5 vs 11. So I watched a bit of video of the last race last night and couldn't help but wonder what one of those boats would be like if it weren't required to rely on human power to turn the cranks. A race of high tech cat sailboats, with one pilot and a 10hp generator and some electric motors to trim the sails could be a lot of fun to watch. If you make it a spec class, you could even drive down the cost of the boats, and keep the racing a lot closer. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT - ORACLE WIN On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 25/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Boats seem to be the form of transportation that hold the least interest to me. Mind you, ships can be pretty cool, when you start talking engines bigger than some houses that I've lived in, that's getting pretty cool. The sailing in these big catamarans with hydrofoils is superb. Sailing racing is a bit like chess - tactics and the ability to think several moves ahead are crucial. No engines here mate - wind, water and winning ability. You can say that again. I'm no sailing enthusiast but I'm still highly impressed watching these boats. Have a read... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC72 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
I think the k-7/k-5 bodies are near perfection. If they kept the same exact design I would be thrilled personally. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: and those are all good things, but the fact that the body hasn't changed means that camera pr0n just isn't all that exciting. I need some actual camera intercourse. On 9/26/2013 4:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:28:43PM +0200, DagT wrote: Sure, but I love the K-5 body, so if this is true it makes me excited. :-) I like the idea that the spare batteries I have for my two K-5 bodies might work in the K-3. If I had a battery grip, I'd be totally stoked that it would probably work with the K-3, rather than having to buy a new one of those as well. Since I tend to carry my camera with me all of the time, I wouldn't mind if it were smaller, but I don't think that's feasible, and would cause wailing and moaning from others. 26. sep. 2013 kl. 22:23 skrev P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: It might be the real thing, but if so Ricoh kept the basic body that hasn't changed all that much since the K-7, so its not particularly exciting. On 9/26/2013 2:05 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: This looks like it could be real http://photorumors.com/2013/09/26/first-picture-of-the-new-pentax-k-3-dslr-camera/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
From what I understand Leica has operated at a loss or near break even for many years now. Part of their high costs are firstly their high cost of manufacturing. Secondly economies of scale play a major factor. For ever $2000 FF DSLR Canikon sells, they certainly profit less, but then they sell many, many more cameras than leica does. RD costs money and those costs are offset to the consumer. Selling 10,000 cameras gives a lot more room for adjusting to thin profit margins, whereas selling only 1000 meticulously crafted and mostly handmade cameras means they aren't going to be cheap in any way. Also when you have the best lenses and a storied history you can charge whatever you want. A Rolls Royce is hardly worth $200,000 in comparison to say a Mercedes if you ask me, but to some it is. People with more money than sense. Look at Hasselblad. They've decided they can totally cash in on their name and took a page right out of leica's book. I don't know what sales figures are like, but it seems there is a market in horribly overpriced rebranded Panasonic cameras with a red dot. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:52:55PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Leica seem to be having no issues selling all manual focus Leica M bodies and lenses, Larry. They are the camera company with the highest growth rate in camera sales by unit volume and profitability since 2009. :-) I grant you that Leicas are good cameras, but they have one thing going for them that no other brand has, the snob appeal that goes with the red dot which says I can spend $7,000 on a camera body, and the GDP of a small country on lenses. Just as the majority of Ferrari and Porsche owners have never taken a lap of a racetrack at speed, I'm willing to bet that brand status has more to do with the buying decisions of most Leica customers than their ability to use the superior performance of the cameras. Seriously, compare the mechanical design of the M-9 versus the Nikon D600. If they wanted to, they could could probably build one to sell for $2,000, rather than $8,000, but that wouldn't appeal to their niche market. A niche market which is undoubtably far more profitable than a bunch of middle aged curmudgeons who natter on endlessly about cormorants, puns and aperture simulators. Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Because these days, to all intents and purposes you cannot sell a camera that isn't auto everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
On 26/09/2013 12:32 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. Look at your K5II compared face on to the K7. They had a very successful chassis in the K7, and they pretty much plonked the K5 right into it, I'm not seeing a whole lot of reason why the K3 should look different, and in fact I would be quite happy if it was the same chassis, as that might also mean same battery and same battery grip (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. Every DSLR Pentax has made has been sold with a kit lens. Why would this be any different? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Nik Snapseed (for Desktops) activation
You may recall that Google pulled Snapseed from the market a while back. I had downloaded the free trial version and installed it, but could not run it again (without activating it), after the 30 day trial passed. For some reason I decided to Google it today and found a username and password that allows you to activate it. The info is in the Uploader Comments here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEB83UviADo Note: You need to type the Key into the Key field. Copying and Pasting it will not get the Activate button to light. If you did not snag Snapseed 1.2.1 for the desktop before now, it is available here: The file 'Snapseed_full_win_all_1.2.1.msi' (26.2 MB) is available for download at http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20131010/c50b8dc143c7ef52/Snapseed_full_win_all_1.2.1.msi Windows only, I'm afraid. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New autofocus patent - phase detection at every pixel
On 26 Sep 2013, at 17:51, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/09/26/new-olympus-patent-puts-phase-detection-at-every-pixel-on-a-sensor/ Looks good on paper, I wonder how will it turn out. There might be some compromise in light gathering ability. The UI will have to be changed, I don't want to press the down button 1209 times and the right button 3671 times to set a focus point:) A combination of a touch screen and fine tuning with buttons afterwards might work. They could put a rotating barrel around the lens which you could turn in either direction. That might work. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
You don't read many industry journals. Camera sales on average are off by over 40% in the past year across the industry, except for Leica. Leica is selling every camera it can produce, with gross margins that are very similar to everyone else. Since the introduction of the M9 in 2009, they've netted 29% per annum profitability growth. Everyone else has been seeing a profitability decline. Doesn't matter how many units you sell—if your profit is going down, it's still going down. Why are they so expensive? Because they are built an old fashioned way, in small numbers, with high quality materials and lots of individual attention to each one in testing and QA. Product cachet and marketing are part of it, certainly, but not much. They've raised prices to match rising costs of energy, materials and labor while maintaining very old fashioned standards of quality. Other manufacturers in the industry have cut standards to maintain prices, and their prices have gone up too. I hear complaints on this list about price hikes on Pentax gear all the time. Leica Camera GmbH is making enough profit selling cameras to delist themselves from the stock market and fund a new, modernized factory. That's hardly at a loss or near break even. Ricoh, Sony, Canon, Olympus, and Nikon have all been much closer to break even or at a loss the past few years. Their camera divisions are all part of much much larger companies, which is how they've been surviving this current downturn cycle. Leica Camera certainly isn't perfect, nor a product for everyone. Never said it was. But my point is that they've successfully, profitably been selling a large number of all manual focus cameras. That's all. Others could do it too, if they chose to and went for an audience that valued something other than more more more more more automation convenience. There is also nothing wrong with automation convenience, as long as you recognize it for what it is and don't lose sight of what it's doing. Just like the statement that AF can focus more precisely. Hogwash. Critical focus achieved with AF cannot be more precise than critical focus achieved with manual focus because they are EXACTLY the same thing: critical focus. Godfrey On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: From what I understand Leica has operated at a loss or near break even for many years now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
On 26/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Has anyone stopped to think that it really makes no difference if it's fake or real? Either way it's just a picture of a camera. It won't do anything for you that any other picture of a camera won't do. It's not a full-frame picture. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Has anyone stopped to think that it really makes no difference if it's fake or real? Either way it's just a picture of a camera. It won't do anything for you that any other picture of a camera won't do. It's not a full-frame picture. with FrontFocus issues Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On 26/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: So I watched a bit of video of the last race last night and couldn't help but wonder what one of those boats would be like if it weren't required to rely on human power to turn the cranks. A race of high tech cat sailboats, with one pilot and a 10hp generator and some electric motors to trim the sails could be a lot of fun to watch. Two words Lar. Team sport!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
On 26/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! Woohoo. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On 26/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: If they wanted to, they could could probably build one to sell for $2,000, rather than $8,000, but that wouldn't appeal to their niche market. A niche market which is undoubtably far more profitable than a bunch of middle aged curmudgeons who natter on endlessly about cormorants, puns and aperture simulators. Lar, do you by any chance walk about with a bullseye printed on your T shirt? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My New Lâg T66D
My Yamaha sends your Yamaha its sympathies. Congrats on the new toy! Yonnie On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, I just couldn't hold off any longer. I went by the music shop yesterday to give a test drive to this guitar and a little Fender electric/acoustic I'd had my eye on. When I got there, the Fender was gone, so I jumped on this one. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9952217734/ I'm actually glad the Fender had already sold. This one just has a better tone, and I'm really wowed by the sustain. I'll be picking it up in a week. Yay me! Woohoo. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:51:28PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 26/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: If they wanted to, they could could probably build one to sell for $2,000, rather than $8,000, but that wouldn't appeal to their niche market. A niche market which is undoubtably far more profitable than a bunch of middle aged curmudgeons who natter on endlessly about cormorants, puns and aperture simulators. Lar, do you by any chance walk about with a bullseye printed on your T shirt? ;-) Nope, I just post them on the net. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:28:50PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You don't read many industry journals. Just like the statement that AF can focus more precisely. Hogwash. Critical focus achieved with AF cannot be more precise than critical focus achieved with manual focus because they are EXACTLY the same thing: critical focus. OK, how about AF can reach critical focus, or be closer to critical focus faster than doing it manually, in a much wider range of circumstances. Mind you, there is my oft repeated caveat on whether if focus perfectly on the thing you want it to focus perfectly on. And, yes, I know that a highly trained photographer, with sharp eyes and lots of practice can achieve critical focus in a much wider range of conditions, and a lot faster, than someone whose photographic expertise runs out shortly after figuring out which end of the camera to look through. I'm also willing to bet that most of the people who own Leicas are graduates of the Dunning-Kruger school of expert photography. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:48:27PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 26/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: So I watched a bit of video of the last race last night and couldn't help but wonder what one of those boats would be like if it weren't required to rely on human power to turn the cranks. A race of high tech cat sailboats, with one pilot and a 10hp generator and some electric motors to trim the sails could be a lot of fun to watch. Two words Lar. Team sport!!! You don't see Michael Schumacher hauling his entire pit crew around the racetrack do you? Do you want to race? Or do you want to sit around the campfire and sing kumbafuckingya? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Behold the K-3!
On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Bill wrote: On 26/09/2013 12:32 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Other than the K-3that looks EXACTLY like my K-5II. You would think there would be SOMETHING different about it. Look at your K5II compared face on to the K7. They had a very successful chassis in the K7, and they pretty much plonked the K5 right into it, I'm not seeing a whole lot of reason why the K3 should look different, and in fact I would be quite happy if it was the same chassis, as that might also mean same battery and same battery grip (The K-5II also sold in kits with that lens, the 18-135mm). I would bet that image is just re-purposed to put it nicely. Every DSLR Pentax has made has been sold with a kit lens. Why would this be any different? bill A babblefish translation of a portion of the source page: Unless you see the image in the k-3 body differ with some k-5 II in fine detail, but overall the k-5 II very similar is like. That unlike k-5 II character of the shape of pentaprism, AF auxiliary light lamp area, shape, shape of lens detachable button, SR change to Golden, and then, in the shape of the part under the logo of k-3' (English) stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K7 has landed.
Hey - that camera looks familiar... Glad that it has finally arrived. You are a patient man - I mailed it to your daughter in March! I'll be interested in hearing your impressions of the camera. Mark On 9/24/2013 11:10 AM, Alan C wrote: At last, after several months of waiting, my daughter eventually arrived from the IOM with the K7 I bought from Mark Cassino. We did it that way to circumvent postal theft and import duty. And what a magnificent beast it is compared to the K110D. Here it is having its first sniff at Kruger in the blazing sun. We will be spending a few days in the Park so it can get a taste of Africa. Sadly, no bears, wolves or wolverines which are represented here by hyaenas, wild dogs honey badgers. Before disposing of the K110D I will put all your theories on pixels resolution to the test. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9917024454/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Pas de Deux
Quoting Walt ldott...@gmail.com: An interesting development occurred at the hummingbird feeder this morning. I've been taking shots of a mantis that's been hanging out there for the past several days. Then, late last night, I noticed there were two of them there, but the light was so low I didn't even bother to grab the camera as focusing would have been out of the question. So, I put it off hoping they might still be there this morning. Well, they were. And it seems they've gotten one another's attention. The one on the bottom actually struck out at the one on top before scurrying back down to the bottom of the feeder. Unfortunately, I wasn't quick enough to capture it. But, I was pretty happy to get this shot nonetheless. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9917379156/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, 1/1600, ISO 80, f/2.8 The bottom one certainly looks a bit agitated - not sure how he/she manages to hold on the the feeder. It looks a bit slippery. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Rush
Saw it tonight. Anyone who enjoys motorsports has to see it, but so too anyone who appreciates great cinematography Amazing camera work.. And it holds its own as drama. Simply superb. A heart-pounding full-speed ride from start to finish. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Zoe (caution, feline content!)
Quoting knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com: Zoe has been a part of our household for almost a year but I realized last night that I had no decent photos of her. Okay, one, but it was lost in my camera last October. So last night I tried to remedy that: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/zoe.html?m=1 How successful I was is not up to me, but I'm satisfied with it. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Wonderful shot - a bit more than 'decent'. Looks like she's expecting dinner. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/9/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: ...and an Australian skipper. Credit where it's due - he dragged in Sir Ben so that was the key. Sorry Cotty, Larry Ellison has said it was Sir Russell Coutts who won it ;) http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4objectid=11130658 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Pas de Deux
What Frank said - here,in particular, they look like critters from a sci-fi film .. especially in the way you grabbed them here ann On 9/24/2013 22:21, knarf wrote: Cool shot. I love mantids. They're like aliens from another planet. Well captured! Cheers, frank Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: An interesting development occurred at the hummingbird feeder this morning. I've been taking shots of a mantis that's been hanging out there for the past several days. Then, late last night, I noticed there were two of them there, but the light was so low I didn't even bother to grab the camera as focusing would have been out of the question. So, I put it off hoping they might still be there this morning. Well, they were. And it seems they've gotten one another's attention. The one on the bottom actually struck out at the one on top before scurrying back down to the bottom of the feeder. Unfortunately, I wasn't quick enough to capture it. But, I was pretty happy to get this shot nonetheless. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9917379156/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, 1/1600, ISO 80, f/2.8 Comments and suggestions eagerly solicited. -- Walt “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rush
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:52:03PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Saw it tonight. Anyone who enjoys motorsports has to see it, but so too anyone who appreciates great cinematography Amazing camera work.. And it holds its own as drama. Simply superb. A heart-pounding full-speed ride from start to finish. A movie about racing that doesn't suck? That's hard to believe. but I did a bit of google fu and it actually seems to be getting good reviews from racers. Even Lauda. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rush
Larry Colen wrote: A movie about racing that doesn't suck? Bikes, not cars, but it's fscking amazing: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1698010/ -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rush
Thanks Paul, I was was already planning to see it in the next few days. I remember Lauda's accident and thought We'd never see him race again. 'Rush' has been getting alot of visibility in the media! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: OT: Rush Saw it tonight. Anyone who enjoys motorsports has to see it, but so too anyone who appreciates great cinematography Amazing camera work.. And it holds its own as drama. Simply superb. A heart-pounding full-speed ride from start to finish. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rush
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:52:03PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Saw it tonight. Anyone who enjoys motorsports has to see it, but so too anyone who appreciates great cinematography Amazing camera work.. And it holds its own as drama. Simply superb. A heart-pounding full-speed ride from start to finish. A movie about racing that doesn't suck? That's hard to believe. but I did a bit of google fu and it actually seems to be getting good reviews from racers. Even Lauda. Quite a few pro racers in the theater tonight, including a number of people from the Roush and Penske camps -- it was a Brembo sponsored premier -- and the movie got a standing O. It definitely doesn't suck. Paul Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On 26/09/2013, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-09-25 14:44 Steve Cottrell wrote OMG that was brilliant. amazing, i have seen almost no video of it - broadcast TV is useless and my internet connection is too slow to stream much — but i've been following through news channels Here's the final race complete, with some excellent camera work and graphics for the hard of comprehension. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHdmviq1kygfeature=share -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F*250-600 repair
Not in my experience - although a super-whizzy, very high resolution one may produce a better result than the one I used. On 26/09/2013, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Do you even have a reader? More importantly, does anybody? I'd think a flatbed scanner would work fine for microfiche. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
That has to be the greatest come back of all time. Well done Oracle, tough luck Kiwis. The TV coverage I saw was outstanding. While the boat speed was impressive, the tacking at speed was even more so. (Those who have sailed cats will know how difficult this can be). Alan -Original Message- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:44 PM To: pentax list Subject: OT - ORACLE WIN OMG that was brilliant. Sir Ben Ainslie to you ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:28:50PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You don't read many industry journals. Just like the statement that AF can focus more precisely. Hogwash. Critical focus achieved with AF cannot be more precise than critical focus achieved with manual focus because they are EXACTLY the same thing: critical focus. OK, how about AF can reach critical focus, or be closer to critical focus faster than doing it manually, in a much wider range of circumstances. I would be happy to agree with Well engineered auto-focusing systems can reach acceptable focus faster and more consistently than manual focusing systems on average targets with lenses in the focal length and maximum aperture range that they were designed for, particularly when the manual focusing systems are of a mediocre quality. I'm happy to agree with that because I have direct experience of that situation. I find all AF systems to be somewhat limited in the range of scene types that they can be critically accurate for, where a well engineered manual focusing system can be 100% critically accurate for all scene types. The reason for this is that the manual focusing systems rely on a much more powerful sharpness discriminating engine. However, when the manual focusing system is of mediocre quality, all bets are off. I'm also willing to bet that most of the people who own Leicas are graduates of the Dunning-Kruger school of expert photography. Dredge that up from Wikipedia, did you? LOL! Larry, I'm willing to bet that you know few Leica owners, and choose to dis those who buy them based on your prejudices about the cost and cachet of the Leica brand. No other brand gets as much prejudicial commentary as Leica, which I suspect is a matter of brand envy rather than anything to do with the quality of the products. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:23, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: [...] I'm also willing to bet that most of the people who own Leicas are graduates of the Dunning-Kruger school of expert photography. Methinks the Larry doth protest too much. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh what if
On 26 Sep 2013, at 23:51, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: If they wanted to, they could could probably build one to sell for $2,000, rather than $8,000, but that wouldn't appeal to their niche market. A niche market which is undoubtably far more profitable than a bunch of middle aged curmudgeons who natter on endlessly about cormorants, puns and aperture simulators. Lar, do you by any chance walk about with a bullseye printed on your T shirt? ;-) Leica owners natter on endlessly about swans, witty little epigrams and LOOGYs. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - ORACLE WIN
On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: That has to be the greatest come back of all time. Well done Oracle, tough luck Kiwis. The TV coverage I saw was outstanding. While the boat speed was impressive, the tacking at speed was even more so. (Those who have sailed cats will know how difficult this can be). http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4objectid=11125158 I'm sure they were just showing off ;) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
