Re: OT: Countries defined by one sentence

2015-06-05 Thread David Mann
On Jun 5, 2015, at 10:00 am, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Yes we have some venomous snakes (hardly unique there), venomous spiders 
 (ditto), crocodiles (ditto), box jellyfish (ditto), sharks (ditto).
 
 About the only dangerous thing in the Australian bush is the chance of being 
 bulldozed over by a galloping wombat or being pissed on my a koala that's 
 sick of being cuddled.

The fellow at the reptile centre in Alice Springs pointed out that you have to 
try pretty hard to be killed by a snake in Australia.  The venom may be highly 
toxic but the snakes have very short fangs so it takes a long time for the 
venom to get anywhere important, and immobilising the limb buys a lot more time 
again.  They won’t get through clothing so if it’s not too hot, trousers  
shoes should be all you need.  Once you do get medical help they have kits to 
identify the venom so the correct treatment can be applied.

The spiders though… they still scare the crap out of me :)

Cheers,
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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Alan C
A great PUG. Unfortunately no lakes in my part of SA. Knysna is a very 
popular holiday destination; in fact the whole Garden Route. Very hot 
property along there!


http://www.sa-venues.com/attractionsgr/knysna.php

Bob, you would have flown from the George International Airport.

Alan C

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On 5 Jun 2015, at 03:02, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks, Brian!

I particularly like Patrick's Knysna Sunset (where is Knysna?),



I've been to Knysna! It's near George. At the end of my last African trip I 
hooked up with some friends in South Africa for a wedding and we spent a 
very enjoyable week or so in Plettenberg Bay. I flew back from Knysna, or 
George, can't remember.


Ken's Lake Superior (not good canoeing weather, though), and your 
Guardian.


Jeez, I enjoy the PUG!  Thanks for all your efforts, Brian and 
predecessors!


Hear hear.

B






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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 5 Jun 2015, at 03:02, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, Brian! 
 
 I particularly like Patrick's Knysna Sunset (where is Knysna?),


I've been to Knysna! It's near George. At the end of my last African trip I 
hooked up with some friends in South Africa for a wedding and we spent a very 
enjoyable week or so in Plettenberg Bay. I flew back from Knysna, or George, 
can't remember.

 Ken's Lake Superior (not good canoeing weather, though), and your 
 Guardian.
 
 Jeez, I enjoy the PUG!  Thanks for all your efforts, Brian and predecessors!

Hear hear.

B
 
 
 

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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Patrick Nelson

Hi

Knysna is in the western cape South Africa. It is part of an area called the 
garden route, lots of forest, lakes and mountains.


Patrick

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Thanks, Brian!

I particularly like Patrick's Knysna Sunset (where is Knysna?), Ken's 
Lake Superior (not good canoeing weather, though), and your Guardian.


Jeez, I enjoy the PUG!  Thanks for all your efforts, Brian and predecessors!

Rick

On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

A bit of a slow start but a rush of submissions in the last day or two 
boosted the number of images to 23.  A great effort.


As usual - difficult to pick favourites but I think Rick's 'Moonlight' 
takes the prize (not that there is one...).


I also really like Ken's 'Lake Superior', Ann's 'Hawley Lake', Eric's 
'Blue Pond' and Christine's Lake Michigan'.


You'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not 
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery, let me know.


+

Next up is the annual 'Open Gallery'.  No hold's barred - any topic you 
like provided, of course, that the usual condition of either the camera or 
lens being Pentax is met.


Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
My understanding is that Keh has a good service record. 
Hope you find it true, Eric.

J

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On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:35 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 
 Yes - it's disappointing when something like this happens and, if the lens 
 were mine, I'd just bend the pin back.
 
 However, mine's an older lens not under warranty.  In your case I'd probably 
 let KEH deal with it and put up with the delay.
 
 Thanks, Brian. That’s what I’m going to do.
 
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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Weir
 On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 
 Yes - it's disappointing when something like this happens and, if the lens 
 were mine, I'd just bend the pin back.
 
 However, mine's an older lens not under warranty.  In your case I'd probably 
 let KEH deal with it and put up with the delay.

Thanks, Brian. That’s what I’m going to do.

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Re: PESO: A Horny Lad

2015-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I did not notice the resemblance to Buddha to which you refer, and I'm
still not sure I do (except for the ears, perhaps).  To me, he looks
more like a plump little boy.

Many descriptions of Sento-kun omit any reference to Buddha, calling
him just a boy:
http://us.jnto.go.jp/anime/pdf/sento_kun_profile.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sento-kun

This may be because many religious Japanese saw the character as
grotesque.or even blasphemous:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/22/japan-love-and-hate-story-of-the-mascot-character-sento-kun/

It is in any event an example of kimokawaii.

Thanks for the education, Eric.
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Eric Featherstone
eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote:
 The lad is Buddha (hence his style of clothing), a reference to the
 daibutsu or giant Buddha in the temple, Tōdaiji. So really it's a
 combination of two things Nara is famous for. And I'm sure there's an
 element of kawaii intended.

 He's more controversial than I was aware of though.
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2074689/Manto-kun-the-blob-takes-on-Sento-kun-the-Buddha-boy-in-Nara-mascot-battle.html


 Eric

 On 4 June 2015 at 17:26, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'me certain you are correct, Eric.  The display next to the lad had
 railroad brochures, but other than the word railroad I could not
 discern any meaning in them.  Nara is the most popular day trip from
 Kyoto, and we considered going there but ran out of time.

 Why not a deer for a mascot, instead of a boy with deer antlers?  I
 guess that would not be kawaii enough.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Eric Featherstone
 eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4 June 2015 at 15:35, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 This was in the lobby of our hotel in Kyoto.
 Some things in Japan simply defy explanation:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18033024size=md
 K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
 Comments are invited.

 Nice.

 It's sento-kun, the city mascot of the ancient captial Nara, about
 half an hour south of Kyoto. Nara being famous for its deer, hence the
 antlers. It seems to be an advertising campaign to get tourists to go
 there.

 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sento-kuntbm=isch

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sento-kun

 There are odder mascots; Funabashi (Chiba prefecture nr Tokyo) has a
 banana called Funasshi.
 http://www.japancrush.com/2013/pictures/unofficial-mascot-funasshii-elected-as-japans-no-1-mascot.html

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Re: Favorite June Pug

2015-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wow!  This is indeed an engaging and gorgeous gallery

My personal favorites are Ken Waller's view of a lighthouse in the
mist, David Brooks' sunset and Christine's eye-level view of swimmers
in the chilly waters of Lake Michigan.

Great theme, and great submissions!

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:


 Vermillion Lakes (Mathew Hunt)

 Lake Superior (Ken Waller)

 Jack

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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Weir

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 My understanding is that Keh has a good service record. 
 Hope you find it true, Eric.

I think I will, Jack. The only problem is it’ll take more time that I’d like.

I’d really like to splurge on a 20-40/2.8 limited. So much to like about it, 
but realistically it’s beyond my means. 

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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread David J Brooks
excellent gallery this month. Ken's is one of my fav's

Dave

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 G'day all

 A bit of a slow start but a rush of submissions in the last day or two
 boosted the number of images to 23.  A great effort.

 As usual - difficult to pick favourites but I think Rick's 'Moonlight' takes
 the prize (not that there is one...).

 I also really like Ken's 'Lake Superior', Ann's 'Hawley Lake', Eric's 'Blue
 Pond' and Christine's Lake Michigan'.

 You'll find the gallery here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/

 (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
 there).

 Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
 infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
 gallery, let me know.

 +

 Next up is the annual 'Open Gallery'.  No hold's barred - any topic you like
 provided, of course, that the usual condition of either the camera or lens
 being Pentax is met.

 Full Submissions Guidelines here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

 You can submit here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 Nominal closing date is 30 June.


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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Stan Halpin
Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, nestled 
in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did not put on a 
body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body was quite well 
filled with the foam peanuts. I sent it back. 

My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business over the 
years.

stan

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 …

 I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF).
 KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at no 
 additional cost to me.
 
 ...
 
 Igor
 
 
 
 Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:
 
 Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I.m totally
 baffled. ...

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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
Another enjoyable gallery with nice images. Matthew Hunt's Sulphur
Mountain from Vermillion Lakes is the one that made me go WoW. Also
really liked Rick Womer's Moonlight. It is one of those images that
(because it is low key) doesn't grab your attention at thumbnail size
like others, but deserves appreciation at full size.

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FS Friday: AF-540 FGZ flash

2015-06-05 Thread Charles Robinson
It's about 8 years old, I think?  It's the original model, not the II.  

I realized recently that I almost never shoot with flash, since getting the K5. 
 And when I *do* use flash, it's a party camera which the K5 with AF540 
definitely is NOT.

I've never had any issues with it beyond design limitations.  It comes with a 
soft case (well, I'm looking for it!) and that little round base you'd use if 
you were standing this up as a slave somewhere.

$200 + shipping.  Paypal accepted, but I'm open to other methods of payment 
from fellow Pentaxians here on the list.

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PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind

2015-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
Not thrilled with my first attempt at post-processing this difficult
image, but gonna share anyway.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17833425453/

This image is a pretty decent example of what Pentax's Shake Reduction
can do, as it was handheld at 1/6 second. In the future, I'm resolved
to take the time and put the camera on a tripod so I can use a lower
ISO (which also would permit longer shutter speeds increasing
opportunities to capture lightning).

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Re: PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind

2015-06-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
Nice colours and composition.

B



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 Not thrilled with my first attempt at post-processing this difficult
 image, but gonna share anyway.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17833425453/
 
 This image is a pretty decent example of what Pentax's Shake Reduction
 can do, as it was handheld at 1/6 second. In the future, I'm resolved
 to take the time and put the camera on a tripod so I can use a lower
 ISO (which also would permit longer shutter speeds increasing
 opportunities to capture lightning).
 
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FS Friday: AF-540 FGZ flash

2015-06-05 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Charles Robinson Fri, 05 Jun 2015 07:16:22 -0700 wrote:


And when I *do* use flash, it's a party camera which the K5 with AF540
definitely is NOT.


You mean, when you flash, it goes onto a party camera? ;-0)


Igor

PS. Sorry, it was hard to resist...


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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
South Africa's a beautiful country and that particular area especially so.

B

 On 5 Jun 2015, at 09:24, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 A great PUG. Unfortunately no lakes in my part of SA. Knysna is a very 
 popular holiday destination; in fact the whole Garden Route. Very hot 
 property along there!
 
 http://www.sa-venues.com/attractionsgr/knysna.php
 
 Bob, you would have flown from the George International Airport.
 
 Alan C
 
 -Original Message- From: Bob W-PDML
 Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:18 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: June PUG is up!!
 
 On 5 Jun 2015, at 03:02, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, Brian!
 
 I particularly like Patrick's Knysna Sunset (where is Knysna?),
 
 
 I've been to Knysna! It's near George. At the end of my last African trip I 
 hooked up with some friends in South Africa for a wedding and we spent a very 
 enjoyable week or so in Plettenberg Bay. I flew back from Knysna, or George, 
 can't remember.
 
 Ken's Lake Superior (not good canoeing weather, though), and your 
 Guardian.
 
 Jeez, I enjoy the PUG!  Thanks for all your efforts, Brian and predecessors!
 
 Hear hear.
 
 B
 
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Re: PESO: A Horny Lad

2015-06-05 Thread Mark C
Great capture and interesting read... weird but mascots are supposed to 
be weird, eh?


Mark

On 6/4/2015 10:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This was in the lobby of our hotel in Kyoto.
Some things in Japan simply defy explanation:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18033024size=md
K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

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Two images from a recent hike in the Chattahoochee National Forest

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Weir

I’m not sure why I like this, but I do. We believe it’s a patch—an unusually 
extensive one—of white wood aster.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/17812497874/in/album-72157653567083958/

And this is a not very special, but good for me, shot of wild geranium. Again, 
I believe it’s wild geranium. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/18430905572/in/album-72157653567083958/

And a bonus. Haven’t identified it yet. But notice blossoms beginning to form 
from within the leaf.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/18247397718/in/album-72157653567083958/


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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
I'm beginning to question the good things I'd been fed in the past about Keh. 
I've never personally dealt with them.
Probably a staffing change.(?)

J

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Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, nestled 
in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did not put on a 
body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body was quite well 
filled with the foam peanuts. I sent it back. 

My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business over the 
years.

stan

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 …

 I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF).
 KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at no 
 additional cost to me.
 
 ...
 
 Igor
 
 
 
 Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:
 
 Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I.m totally
 baffled. ...

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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread John

They're human and make mistakes like everyone else.

The key is whether KEH stands behind their merchandise when something
defective arrives from KEH. In my dealings with them they always have 
treated me more than fairly.

They have the good reputation they have because they've earned it.

On 6/5/2015 12:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I'm beginning to question the good things I'd been fed in the past
about Keh. I've never personally dealt with them. Probably a staffing
change.(?)

J

- Original Message - From: Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:26:31 AM Subject: Re:
Baffled by my 16-45/4

Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed,
nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately
they did not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag
and so the body was quite well filled with the foam peanuts. I sent
it back.

My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business
over the years.

stan


On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org
wrote:

…



I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working
AF). KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it
back to me at no additional cost to me.

...

Igor




Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:

Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and
I.m totally baffled. ...




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Re: PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind

2015-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks Jack. This is one area where film was easier. Just stop down
the lens and put it on B and wait until you get a nice zot or two.
Digital is trying to capture the moment in real time.
This cell was lighting up like a christmas tree, so my strategy was
just to just take one image after another (not on Continuous) for a
minute or two. This is another reason why a tripod is better, you can
see the subject instead of being blind to the moment of exposure due
to the mirror flip-up. I had to chimp to see if I had captured
anything good.

I've got the parts to build what is supposed to be an
infrared-activate lightning trigger that plugs in like an external
shutter button/intervalometer, but I've yet to dig it out and finish
it to see if it helps at all. The electronics fits inside an old
compact flash body so mounts in the hot shoe. Need to put finishing
that on the To Do list! They sell commercial ones also, but they are
pricey. I don't want one that can only do lightning in the dark, but
will trigger on lightning in daylight also.


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 How long did you have to wait for that flash, Darren? ;)
 Surely, that flash duration helped the shake reduction.
 Really nice catch!
 Best use a carbon fiber rather than a metal tripod. 8(

 J

 - Original Message -
 From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:20:53 AM
 Subject: PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind

 Not thrilled with my first attempt at post-processing this difficult
 image, but gonna share anyway.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17833425453/

 This image is a pretty decent example of what Pentax's Shake Reduction
 can do, as it was handheld at 1/6 second. In the future, I'm resolved
 to take the time and put the camera on a tripod so I can use a lower
 ISO (which also would permit longer shutter speeds increasing
 opportunities to capture lightning).

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Re: Hoya only wanted the Pentax medical division...

2015-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
It has something to do with Hoya  Pentax Medical NOW.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/05/departmentofjustice-probe-duodenoscopes-idUSL1N0YQ0GK20150605


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:24 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 5/12/2015 3:39 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 ...and I always suspected it would bite them in the ass.


 http://wtaq.com/news/articles/2015/may/12/seattle-hospital-joins-superbug-lawsuit-against-scope-manufacturer/

 Let the pun times begin.


 Doesn't have anything to do with Hoya, Pentax or Pentax Medical Imaging.

 And duodenoscopes are inserted from the other end.


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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread John

On 6/4/2015 7:34 PM, Eric Weir wrote:





I double checked mounting. Still have the problem. With the lens off
the camera, pushing the lever the aperture opens and closes smoothly.
When I compare the levers on the 16-45/4 and the 35/2.4 the one on
the 16-45/4 is ben in towards the center of the lens. It almost comes
into contact with with metal shield just inside it.

Should I try bending the lever back to a position similar to that on
the 35/2.4? Or should I just take it back to KEH?



Unless it was graded AS IS when you bought it, I'd call KEH for an RMA.

I WOULD NOT try to fix it myself.

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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
Your experience is good news. Especially if recent.

J

- Original Message -
From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 10:03:30 AM
Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

They're human and make mistakes like everyone else.

The key is whether KEH stands behind their merchandise when something
defective arrives from KEH. In my dealings with them they always have 
treated me more than fairly.

They have the good reputation they have because they've earned it.

On 6/5/2015 12:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 I'm beginning to question the good things I'd been fed in the past
 about Keh. I've never personally dealt with them. Probably a staffing
 change.(?)

 J

 - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:26:31 AM Subject: Re:
 Baffled by my 16-45/4

 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed,
 nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately
 they did not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag
 and so the body was quite well filled with the foam peanuts. I sent
 it back.

 My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business
 over the years.

 stan

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org
 wrote:

 …

 I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working
 AF). KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it
 back to me at no additional cost to me.

 ...

 Igor



 Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:

 Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and
 I.m totally baffled. ...


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Re: PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
Hope your efforts pay off finished.

J

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Jack. This is one area where film was easier. Just stop down
 the lens and put it on B and wait until you get a nice zot or two.
 Digital is trying to capture the moment in real time.
 This cell was lighting up like a christmas tree, so my strategy was
 just to just take one image after another (not on Continuous) for a
 minute or two. This is another reason why a tripod is better, you can
 see the subject instead of being blind to the moment of exposure due
 to the mirror flip-up. I had to chimp to see if I had captured
 anything good.
 
 I've got the parts to build what is supposed to be an
 infrared-activate lightning trigger that plugs in like an external
 shutter button/intervalometer, but I've yet to dig it out and finish
 it to see if it helps at all. The electronics fits inside an old
 compact flash body so mounts in the hot shoe. Need to put finishing
 that on the To Do list! They sell commercial ones also, but they are
 pricey. I don't want one that can only do lightning in the dark, but
 will trigger on lightning in daylight also.
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 How long did you have to wait for that flash, Darren? ;)
 Surely, that flash duration helped the shake reduction.
 Really nice catch!
 Best use a carbon fiber rather than a metal tripod. 8(
 
 J
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:20:53 AM
 Subject: PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind
 
 Not thrilled with my first attempt at post-processing this difficult
 image, but gonna share anyway.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17833425453/
 
 This image is a pretty decent example of what Pentax's Shake Reduction
 can do, as it was handheld at 1/6 second. In the future, I'm resolved
 to take the time and put the camera on a tripod so I can use a lower
 ISO (which also would permit longer shutter speeds increasing
 opportunities to capture lightning).
 
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Re: GESO (17) - PDML at the White Horse

2015-06-05 Thread mike wilson
Biggest mongrel of them all, then.

On 5 June 2015 at 20:37, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 That's because you blend in with the non-Brits. (spoken by the only
 native born Brit in the party)

 Chris

 On 30 May 2015 at 18:35, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Don.

 The company was the scruffy, inebriated, disruptive, slightly
 malodorous sort Joy and I usually hang around with, because we blend
 right in.

 Cheers,

 Rick


 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 They were the kind of people who are prepared to hang out with Rick, so 
 make of that what you will.

 B

 On 30 May 2015, at 16:51, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lovely collection, some universal some perfectly English.  Don't know 
 about the company you were keeping.

 We got back to Philly late yesterday afternoon. We had an excellent 9 
 days in the UK (8 days out of 9 being comfortable and sunny is routine, 
 right?).

 A highlight of the trip was the gathering in Oxfordshire, pub lunch, and 
 walk up to the White Horse and along the Ridgeway with Bob, Chris and 
 Karin, and Cotty and Alma. Joy and I had a great time, and thank all of 
 you.

  A small sampling of the many pics I took is here:

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080959



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Re: GESO (17) - PDML at the White Horse

2015-06-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
Not at all. Chris is a thoroughbred - there hasn't been a marriage outside the 
family since 1357...

B

 On 5 Jun 2015, at 20:51, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Biggest mongrel of them all, then.
 
 On 5 June 2015 at 20:37, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 That's because you blend in with the non-Brits. (spoken by the only
 native born Brit in the party)
 
 Chris
 
 On 30 May 2015 at 18:35, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Don.
 
 The company was the scruffy, inebriated, disruptive, slightly
 malodorous sort Joy and I usually hang around with, because we blend
 right in.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 They were the kind of people who are prepared to hang out with Rick, so 
 make of that what you will.
 
 B
 
 On 30 May 2015, at 16:51, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lovely collection, some universal some perfectly English.  Don't know 
 about the company you were keeping.
 
 We got back to Philly late yesterday afternoon. We had an excellent 9 
 days in the UK (8 days out of 9 being comfortable and sunny is routine, 
 right?).
 
 A highlight of the trip was the gathering in Oxfordshire, pub lunch, and 
 walk up to the White Horse and along the Ridgeway with Bob, Chris and 
 Karin, and Cotty and Alma. Joy and I had a great time, and thank all of 
 you.
 
 A small sampling of the many pics I took is here:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080959
 
 
 
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Re: GESO (17) - PDML at the White Horse

2015-06-05 Thread Chris Mitchell
That's because you blend in with the non-Brits. (spoken by the only
native born Brit in the party)

Chris

On 30 May 2015 at 18:35, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Don.

 The company was the scruffy, inebriated, disruptive, slightly
 malodorous sort Joy and I usually hang around with, because we blend
 right in.

 Cheers,

 Rick


 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 They were the kind of people who are prepared to hang out with Rick, so make 
 of that what you will.

 B

 On 30 May 2015, at 16:51, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lovely collection, some universal some perfectly English.  Don't know about 
 the company you were keeping.

 We got back to Philly late yesterday afternoon. We had an excellent 9 days 
 in the UK (8 days out of 9 being comfortable and sunny is routine, right?).

 A highlight of the trip was the gathering in Oxfordshire, pub lunch, and 
 walk up to the White Horse and along the Ridgeway with Bob, Chris and 
 Karin, and Cotty and Alma. Joy and I had a great time, and thank all of 
 you.

  A small sampling of the many pics I took is here:

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080959



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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Christine Aguila
HI Brian!  Yep, it’s another great PUG.  Thanks for all your work, and I agree 
with you about Rick’s shot—very pretty, but all the scenics are lovely.  I 
think a shout out goes to Jan’s Vissar!  The shape of the casted net evokes the 
butterfly—really great!

Thanks to all for your kind comments about Lake Michigan—I have to say, if 
you’re looking for something really fun to do, grab your bathing suit, head to 
the beach when the water is lively, and splash around with a waterproof camera. 
 If it ever warms up here in Chicago, I hope to do a lot more of that this 
summer.

Cheers, Christine



 On Jun 4, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 
 G'day all
 
 A bit of a slow start but a rush of submissions in the last day or two 
 boosted the number of images to 23.  A great effort.
 
 As usual - difficult to pick favourites but I think Rick's 'Moonlight' takes 
 the prize (not that there is one...).
 
 I also really like Ken's 'Lake Superior', Ann's 'Hawley Lake', Eric's 'Blue 
 Pond' and Christine's Lake Michigan'.
 
 You'll find the gallery here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/
 
 (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
 
 Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not 
 infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
 gallery, let me know.
 
 +
 
 Next up is the annual 'Open Gallery'.  No hold's barred - any topic you like 
 provided, of course, that the usual condition of either the camera or lens 
 being Pentax is met.
 
 Full Submissions Guidelines here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
 
 You can submit here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
 Nominal closing date is 30 June.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
 Brian Walters
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Re: Favorite June Pug

2015-06-05 Thread Ken Waller
Really satisfyling to hear that my 'Lake Superior' was enjoyed list 
members - thanks for mentioning it Brian, Malcolm, Rick  Dan.


Malcolm -  late August in the U P of Michigan can be a bitch. More like late 
Oct/Nov in some northern states. Not like you want to be out in that kind of 
weather but rather be wrapped up in a book by the fireplace.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Favorite June Pug



Wow!  This is indeed an engaging and gorgeous gallery

My personal favorites are Ken Waller's view of a lighthouse in the
mist, David Brooks' sunset and Christine's eye-level view of swimmers
in the chilly waters of Lake Michigan.

Great theme, and great submissions!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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Vermillion Lakes (Mathew Hunt)

Lake Superior (Ken Waller)

Jack

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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My experience has been similar to Ken's
Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I've dealt with KEH over the last 15 or so years and have had no issues with
 them whatsoever. I've mostly bought but have also sold to them.

 On buying, it seemed to me they always under rated the products I've bought
 - the items were never worse than the KEH rating and in a lot of cases the
 items were in better conditions than they had stated.

 I guess they're like anyone and can make a mistake now and then, but I
 believe they'll make good for any mistake on their part.

 Wouldn't think twice about buying another item from them.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info
 Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4


 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed,
 nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did
 not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body
 was quite well filled with the foam peanuts. I sent it back.

 My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business over
 the years.

 stan

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:

 …


 I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF).
 KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at
 no additional cost to me.

 ...

 Igor



 Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:

 Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I.m
 totally
 baffled. ...



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GESO: Julian High, 1975 to 1980

2015-06-05 Thread paul stenquist
I taught English Lit and Composition at a very special place called Percy L. 
Julian High School from 1975 to 1980. Prior to my years at Julian I had been 
teaching at one of the worst schools in Chicago — Austin High School —  a West 
Side school that had gone from 100% white to 100% black in a few years. The 
administration  and the largely white staff didn’t know what to do, the school 
was out of control and on fire frequently and, at one point, the National Guard 
had to be called in. In 1975 the federal government mandated faculty 
integration, meaning that if you were a white teacher at a school that had too 
many white teachers  and you wanted to transfer to a school that had too many 
black teachers, they had to allow you to apply for a position. I had heard 
about Julian. It was an all-black school on the south side of Chicago. It 
wasn’t a white school that had re-segregated but rather a brand new school that 
a prosperous middle class black community had fought for. I applied, the 
principal approved it, and the largely black staff welcomed me and several 
other Austin teachers with open arms. 

I had some great classes and some wonderful kids at Julian. I taught Honors 
English 3 and a special double-period Humanities class. The kids and I went to 
the Chicago Symphony, the opera and a number of theatrical presentations. We 
had a great marching band, majorettes and cheerleaders. All in the mid 70s when 
the white kids in the suburban schools were thumbing their noses at those kind 
of things. We also had a fabulous football team, and in 1979 we became the 
first public school in almost 20 years to win a city championship over the 
predominantly white catholic league schools. 

I documented much of my time at Julian on film. I have several thousand 
transparencies and BW negs that I shot during those five happy years. I’ve just 
begun scanning some of them. I started with that 1979 football championship, 
but I have many more that I will eventually scan.

In March of 1980 I was offered a job in New York at Hearst Magazine Division. 
The Chicago Board of Education had run out of money and had stopped paying the 
teachers. We were on the picket line when I got the call. I crossed the line, 
walked into the office to turn in my resignation on Thursday afternoon, March 
7, 1980 and flew to New York the next morning. I still feel guilty. Today, 
Julian is still somewhat better than the other Southside Chicago High Schools, 
but the magic is largely gone.  The entire south side of Chicago  is a mess. 
The gangs are in control, and kids are shot on the street every day. A number 
of Julian kids have been killed on their way home from school. It’s had for me 
to imagine. It’s heartbreaking. 

Here are the first of my Julian scans. The way it was 40 years ago.
http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080368
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Re: Two images from a recent hike in the Chattahoochee National Forest

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Weir

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I liked all of them.
 
 You can perhaps consider keeping the first one as part of a future
 composite (blended) image.

Thanks, Bulent. But say more—about a composite image. I was going to say I had 
an idea what such would be in general, but when I thought about it I’m not so 
sure I do.

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Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. 

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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Ken Waller
I've dealt with KEH over the last 15 or so years and have had no issues with 
them whatsoever. I've mostly bought but have also sold to them.


On buying, it seemed to me they always under rated the products I've 
bought - the items were never worse than the KEH rating and in a lot of 
cases the items were in better conditions than they had stated.


I guess they're like anyone and can make a mistake now and then, but I 
believe they'll make good for any mistake on their part.


Wouldn't think twice about buying another item from them.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info

Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4


Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, 
nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did 
not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body 
was quite well filled with the foam peanuts. I sent it back.


My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business over 
the years.


stan


On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:

…



I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF).
KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at 
no additional cost to me.


...

Igor




Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:

Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I.m 
totally

baffled. ...



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Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
I've had essentially the same impression and understanding
and agree that  happens.

J

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 I've dealt with KEH over the last 15 or so years and have had no issues with 
 them whatsoever. I've mostly bought but have also sold to them.
 
 On buying, it seemed to me they always under rated the products I've bought - 
 the items were never worse than the KEH rating and in a lot of cases the 
 items were in better conditions than they had stated.
 
 I guess they're like anyone and can make a mistake now and then, but I 
 believe they'll make good for any mistake on their part.
 
 Wouldn't think twice about buying another item from them.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
 Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4
 
 
 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, 
 nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did 
 not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body 
 was quite well filled with the foam peanuts. I sent it back.
 
 My one and only issue with KEH, with whom I have done much business over the 
 years.
 
 stan
 
 On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 …
 
 I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF).
 KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at no 
 additional cost to me.
 
 ...
 
 Igor
 
 
 
 Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote:
 
 Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I.m totally
 baffled. ...
 
 
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Re: GESO: Julian High, 1975 to 1980

2015-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
Paul,
Thank you for sharing your story and the background to your images.
I'm sure you know this, but there is no need to feel guilty. I have a
great deal of respect for anyone who chooses teaching, and especially
for those for whom it is more than merely a job. The 5 years that you
were able to impact your students may seem brief to you, but it is 5
years longer than any of us non-teachers can claim. I have no doubt
that you are probably still remembered kindly by many of your
students, unbeknownst to you. It is even possible that some chose to
become teachers themselves, thanks to the impact that you may have had
upon them.

Your scanning project is probably causing you to relive a lot of
memories, and that is one of the things that photography can do best.
I'm glad you are preserving and sharing those images and look forward
to any future installments that you are kind enough to share with us.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:18 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I taught English Lit and Composition at a very special place called Percy L. 
 Julian High School from 1975 to 1980. Prior to my years at Julian I had been 
 teaching at one of the worst schools in Chicago — Austin High School —  a 
 West Side school that had gone from 100% white to 100% black in a few years. 
 The administration  and the largely white staff didn’t know what to do, the 
 school was out of control and on fire frequently and, at one point, the 
 National Guard had to be called in. In 1975 the federal government mandated 
 faculty integration, meaning that if you were a white teacher at a school 
 that had too many white teachers  and you wanted to transfer to a school that 
 had too many black teachers, they had to allow you to apply for a position. I 
 had heard about Julian. It was an all-black school on the south side of 
 Chicago. It wasn’t a white school that had re-segregated but rather a brand 
 new school that a prosperous middle class black community had fought for. I 
 applied, the principal approved it, and the largely black staff welcomed me 
 and several other Austin teachers with open arms.

 I had some great classes and some wonderful kids at Julian. I taught Honors 
 English 3 and a special double-period Humanities class. The kids and I went 
 to the Chicago Symphony, the opera and a number of theatrical presentations. 
 We had a great marching band, majorettes and cheerleaders. All in the mid 70s 
 when the white kids in the suburban schools were thumbing their noses at 
 those kind of things. We also had a fabulous football team, and in 1979 we 
 became the first public school in almost 20 years to win a city championship 
 over the predominantly white catholic league schools.

 I documented much of my time at Julian on film. I have several thousand 
 transparencies and BW negs that I shot during those five happy years. I’ve 
 just begun scanning some of them. I started with that 1979 football 
 championship, but I have many more that I will eventually scan.

 In March of 1980 I was offered a job in New York at Hearst Magazine Division. 
 The Chicago Board of Education had run out of money and had stopped paying 
 the teachers. We were on the picket line when I got the call. I crossed the 
 line, walked into the office to turn in my resignation on Thursday afternoon, 
 March 7, 1980 and flew to New York the next morning. I still feel guilty. 
 Today, Julian is still somewhat better than the other Southside Chicago High 
 Schools, but the magic is largely gone.  The entire south side of Chicago  is 
 a mess. The gangs are in control, and kids are shot on the street every day. 
 A number of Julian kids have been killed on their way home from school. It’s 
 had for me to imagine. It’s heartbreaking.

 Here are the first of my Julian scans. The way it was 40 years ago.
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080368
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Re: GESO: Julian High, 1975 to 1980

2015-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Touching story Paul and good photos.
I wish I could say I had done as much...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:18 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I taught English Lit and Composition at a very special place called Percy L. 
 Julian High School from 1975 to 1980. Prior to my years at Julian I had been 
 teaching at one of the worst schools in Chicago — Austin High School —  a 
 West Side school that had gone from 100% white to 100% black in a few years. 
 The administration  and the largely white staff didn’t know what to do, the 
 school was out of control and on fire frequently and, at one point, the 
 National Guard had to be called in. In 1975 the federal government mandated 
 faculty integration, meaning that if you were a white teacher at a school 
 that had too many white teachers  and you wanted to transfer to a school that 
 had too many black teachers, they had to allow you to apply for a position. I 
 had heard about Julian. It was an all-black school on the south side of 
 Chicago. It wasn’t a white school that had re-segregated but rather a brand 
 new school that a prosperous middle class black community had fought for. I 
 applied, the principal approved it, and the largely black staff welcomed me 
 and several other Austin teachers with open arms.

 I had some great classes and some wonderful kids at Julian. I taught Honors 
 English 3 and a special double-period Humanities class. The kids and I went 
 to the Chicago Symphony, the opera and a number of theatrical presentations. 
 We had a great marching band, majorettes and cheerleaders. All in the mid 70s 
 when the white kids in the suburban schools were thumbing their noses at 
 those kind of things. We also had a fabulous football team, and in 1979 we 
 became the first public school in almost 20 years to win a city championship 
 over the predominantly white catholic league schools.

 I documented much of my time at Julian on film. I have several thousand 
 transparencies and BW negs that I shot during those five happy years. I’ve 
 just begun scanning some of them. I started with that 1979 football 
 championship, but I have many more that I will eventually scan.

 In March of 1980 I was offered a job in New York at Hearst Magazine Division. 
 The Chicago Board of Education had run out of money and had stopped paying 
 the teachers. We were on the picket line when I got the call. I crossed the 
 line, walked into the office to turn in my resignation on Thursday afternoon, 
 March 7, 1980 and flew to New York the next morning. I still feel guilty. 
 Today, Julian is still somewhat better than the other Southside Chicago High 
 Schools, but the magic is largely gone.  The entire south side of Chicago  is 
 a mess. The gangs are in control, and kids are shot on the street every day. 
 A number of Julian kids have been killed on their way home from school. It’s 
 had for me to imagine. It’s heartbreaking.

 Here are the first of my Julian scans. The way it was 40 years ago.
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080368
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RE: GESO (17) - PDML at the White Horse

2015-06-05 Thread John Coyle
Mark!
One of Bob's best.

John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W-PDML
Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2015 6:00 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO (17) - PDML at the White Horse

Not at all. Chris is a thoroughbred - there hasn't been a marriage outside the 
family since 1357...

B

 On 5 Jun 2015, at 20:51, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Biggest mongrel of them all, then.
 
 On 5 June 2015 at 20:37, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 That's because you blend in with the non-Brits. (spoken by the only 
 native born Brit in the party)
 
 Chris
 
 On 30 May 2015 at 18:35, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Don.
 
 The company was the scruffy, inebriated, disruptive, slightly 
 malodorous sort Joy and I usually hang around with, because we blend 
 right in.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 They were the kind of people who are prepared to hang out with Rick, so 
 make of that what you
will.
 
 B
 
 On 30 May 2015, at 16:51, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lovely collection, some universal some perfectly English.  Don't know 
 about the company you
were keeping.
 
 We got back to Philly late yesterday afternoon. We had an excellent 9 
 days in the UK (8 days
out of 9 being comfortable and sunny is routine, right?).
 
 A highlight of the trip was the gathering in Oxfordshire, pub lunch, and 
 walk up to the White
Horse and along the Ridgeway with Bob, Chris and Karin, and Cotty and Alma. Joy 
and I had a great
time, and thank all of you.
 
 A small sampling of the many pics I took is here:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080959
 
 
 
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PESO -- Bar Belle

2015-06-05 Thread P.J. Alling

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20%20barbelle.html

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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks Dave, I appreciate your comment.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: June PUG is up!!



excellent gallery this month. Ken's is one of my fav's

Dave

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
wrote:

G'day all

A bit of a slow start but a rush of submissions in the last day or two
boosted the number of images to 23.  A great effort.

As usual - difficult to pick favourites but I think Rick's 'Moonlight' 
takes

the prize (not that there is one...).

I also really like Ken's 'Lake Superior', Ann's 'Hawley Lake', Eric's 
'Blue

Pond' and Christine's Lake Michigan'.

You'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Next up is the annual 'Open Gallery'.  No hold's barred - any topic you 
like
provided, of course, that the usual condition of either the camera or 
lens

being Pentax is met.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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Re: Totally OT - important lesson about refrigerators

2015-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
It's news to me! Thanks for sharing. I suppose it is one more
indication of how our education system just doesn't cover the things
we really need to know in life.
:)


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:

 It is something that I've never thought about before...
 .. and I suspect that at least some people here might not have either...

 Our fridge at home seemingly died earlier this week: it stopped
 cooling/freezing and started warming up.
 We were figuring out if a repair was an option or we should be buying
 another one (new? craigslist?...)
 I will spare you from all the details of the saga.

 The solution is simple: cleaning the coils. Our fridge is a side-by-side,
 and its coils are at the bottom. Some time ago, I did look at how dusty it
 was below the fridge, but I didn't realize that the coils were all in a very
 furry coat of dust deep inside that crawl space

 Cleaning those solved the problem.
 Apparently, they recommend cleaning those (for better efficiency) every 6-12
 months.
 I know that the coils of this fridge haven't been cleaned for at least 6
 years, but I suspect it may have been close to 15... ;-)
 I've collected more than 1, closer to 2 pounds (1kg) of dust from the coils.

 And if you decide to clean the coils of your fridge, - here is a brush that
 costs just about $5:
 http://www.lowes.com/pd_208165-2251-5304433062_0__?productId=1058955
 And you would use it in a combination with a vacuum cleaner.

 And you can see how it can be done, e.g. in this video:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn6yZeGO8Rw

 Igor

 PS. If someone finds the idea about regularly cleaning refrigerator coils as
 a news, please let me know, - I would be happy to know that spamming this
 list and writing all this was not a complete waste.


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Totally OT - important lesson about refrigerators

2015-06-05 Thread Igor PDML-StR


It is something that I've never thought about before...
.. and I suspect that at least some people here might not have either...

Our fridge at home seemingly died earlier this week: it stopped 
cooling/freezing and started warming up.

We were figuring out if a repair was an option or we should be buying
another one (new? craigslist?...)
I will spare you from all the details of the saga.

The solution is simple: cleaning the coils. Our fridge is a side-by-side, 
and its coils are at the bottom. Some time ago, I did look at how dusty it 
was below the fridge, but I didn't realize that the coils were all in a 
very furry coat of dust deep inside that crawl space


Cleaning those solved the problem.
Apparently, they recommend cleaning those (for better efficiency) every 
6-12 months.
I know that the coils of this fridge haven't been cleaned for at least 6 
years, but I suspect it may have been close to 15... ;-)
I've collected more than 1, closer to 2 pounds (1kg) of dust from the 
coils.


And if you decide to clean the coils of your fridge, - 
here is a brush that costs just about $5:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_208165-2251-5304433062_0__?productId=1058955
And you would use it in a combination with a vacuum cleaner.

And you can see how it can be done, e.g. in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn6yZeGO8Rw

Igor

PS. If someone finds the idea about regularly cleaning refrigerator coils 
as a news, please let me know, - I would be happy to know that spamming 
this list and writing all this was not a complete waste.



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Re: Julian High, 1975 to 1980

2015-06-05 Thread Ken Waller
I knew early on there were two things I would/could never do - teach in a 
classroom setting or be a cop.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: GESO: Julian High, 1975 to 1980


I taught English Lit and Composition at a very special place called Percy 
L. Julian High School from 1975 to 1980. Prior to my years at Julian I had 
been teaching at one of the worst schools in Chicago — Austin High School — 
a West Side school that had gone from 100% white to 100% black in a few 
years. The administration  and the largely white staff didn’t know what to 
do, the school was out of control and on fire frequently and, at one point, 
the National Guard had to be called in. In 1975 the federal government 
mandated faculty integration, meaning that if you were a white teacher at a 
school that had too many white teachers  and you wanted to transfer to a 
school that had too many black teachers, they had to allow you to apply for 
a position. I had heard about Julian. It was an all-black school on the 
south side of Chicago. It wasn’t a white school that had re-segregated but 
rather a brand new school that a prosperous middle class black community 
had fought for. I applied, the principal approved it, and the largely black 
staff welcomed me and several other Austin teachers with open arms.


I had some great classes and some wonderful kids at Julian. I taught 
Honors English 3 and a special double-period Humanities class. The kids 
and I went to the Chicago Symphony, the opera and a number of theatrical 
presentations. We had a great marching band, majorettes and cheerleaders. 
All in the mid 70s when the white kids in the suburban schools were 
thumbing their noses at those kind of things. We also had a fabulous 
football team, and in 1979 we became the first public school in almost 20 
years to win a city championship over the predominantly white catholic 
league schools.


I documented much of my time at Julian on film. I have several thousand 
transparencies and BW negs that I shot during those five happy years. I’ve 
just begun scanning some of them. I started with that 1979 football 
championship, but I have many more that I will eventually scan.


In March of 1980 I was offered a job in New York at Hearst Magazine 
Division. The Chicago Board of Education had run out of money and had 
stopped paying the teachers. We were on the picket line when I got the 
call. I crossed the line, walked into the office to turn in my resignation 
on Thursday afternoon, March 7, 1980 and flew to New York the next 
morning. I still feel guilty. Today, Julian is still somewhat better than 
the other Southside Chicago High Schools, but the magic is largely gone. 
The entire south side of Chicago  is a mess. The gangs are in control, and 
kids are shot on the street every day. A number of Julian kids have been 
killed on their way home from school. It’s had for me to imagine. It’s 
heartbreaking.


Here are the first of my Julian scans. The way it was 40 years ago.
http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=1080368
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Re: PESO -- Bar Belle

2015-06-05 Thread Ken Waller

You could loose the bottom third and you wouldn't lose much.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO -- Bar Belle



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20%20barbelle.html

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Re: June PUG is up!!

2015-06-05 Thread Henk Terhell

These two are also my favorites this month of this great collection.

Henk

Darren Addy schreef op 5-6-2015 om 16:11:

Another enjoyable gallery with nice images. Matthew Hunt's Sulphur
Mountain from Vermillion Lakes is the one that made me go WoW. Also
really liked Rick Womer's Moonlight. It is one of those images that
(because it is low key) doesn't grab your attention at thumbnail size
like others, but deserves appreciation at full size.




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Re: PESO: Close Encounters of a Kansas Kind

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
How long did you have to wait for that flash, Darren? ;) 
Surely, that flash duration helped the shake reduction.
Really nice catch!
Best use a carbon fiber rather than a metal tripod. 8(

J

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Not thrilled with my first attempt at post-processing this difficult
image, but gonna share anyway.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17833425453/

This image is a pretty decent example of what Pentax's Shake Reduction
can do, as it was handheld at 1/6 second. In the future, I'm resolved
to take the time and put the camera on a tripod so I can use a lower
ISO (which also would permit longer shutter speeds increasing
opportunities to capture lightning).

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Re:Geso: Ode to the peony

2015-06-05 Thread Donald Guthrie
Alas the home is a private/museum which has generously allowed me access 
as long as I stay off the grass. Peonies attract ants  flies like no 
other, even before they bloom. They also attract thunderstorms which 
these have missed thankfully.

Thanks for the look.

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Very nice.

Most of my peonies came into bloom while I was away, but we had three
nice red ones left.  They are always attractive and pleasant, if they
aren't covered with ants.  For some reason, ants have been attracted
to my peony plants in the past, but fortunately not this year.

Is that your manor house in the background?  Very nice .  .  .  .

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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Five shots of the short-lived but cheery Summer flower, the peony.
CC always accepted.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/valdon/0bE48M

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