OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Darren Addy]

If you didn't see it on the news, I watched this live online last
night and it was so impressive. It's rare to get "goosepimple moments"
in life, but this was certainly one of them:

This jumps to the return of the first stage to the landing pad:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=32m24s

And a shot of it landing taken from a helicopter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
It's like something out of a Marvin the Martian cartoon.

Here is the darkness of Stage 1 engine shutdown, followed by ignition
of Stage 2 engine:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=25m20s

Here is the launch of the 11 satellites:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=37m25s

Camera is on the side with 6, you don’t see the 5 on the other side
being ejected at the same time (in pairs, until the final one).


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Re: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is the best I have seen in quite a while, Frank.

Well done indeed.
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:19 PM, frank theriault
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> A Canadian scene:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/12/aspirations-of-greatness.html
>
> Taken at Toronto's Ryerson University, next to the Imaging Arts (ie:
> Photography) Building.
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[P.J. Alling]

Actually their issue seems to have been with their engines, and that 
technology hasn't changed all that much in 20 years, we're still using 
designs from the 50's and 60's in most cases, manufactured in Russia...


On 12/22/2015 1:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:11 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:

The sad thing is that the DC-X was doing something like that 20 years ago.
NASA proved to be incompetent at producing a rocket that took off and landed
on it's tail, just as Heinlein, intended, and we lost 20 years.

I wouldn't be too hard on NASA. It is difficult to compare technology
accomplishements of different ages. 20 years ago may not seem that
long ago, but think what can be done now making use of GPS satellites
that weren't available then (to consider just one such technology). 20
years ago would have been the Before-GPS-Age.


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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Darren Addy]

Russian engines are no longer an option, thanks to Congress, unless
one procures a waiver.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/without-russian-rocket-engines-america-will-rely-even-more-on-spacex

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-ula-spacex-idUSKCN0S22Y920151008

Interestingly, SpaceX doesn't even file patents, Musk says, because
“we try not to provide a recipe by which China can copy us and we find
our inventions coming right back at us.”

Read more: 
http://www.airspacemag.com/space/is-spacex-changing-the-rocket-equation-132285884/

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:33 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> Actually their issue seems to have been with their engines, and that
> technology hasn't changed all that much in 20 years, we're still using
> designs from the 50's and 60's in most cases, manufactured in Russia...
>
>
> On 12/22/2015 1:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:11 PM, P.J. Alling
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The sad thing is that the DC-X was doing something like that 20 years
>>> ago.
>>> NASA proved to be incompetent at producing a rocket that took off and
>>> landed
>>> on it's tail, just as Heinlein, intended, and we lost 20 years.
>>
>> I wouldn't be too hard on NASA. It is difficult to compare technology
>> accomplishements of different ages. 20 years ago may not seem that
>> long ago, but think what can be done now making use of GPS satellites
>> that weren't available then (to consider just one such technology). 20
>> years ago would have been the Before-GPS-Age.
>>
>>
>> Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh.
>>
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Re: Website that tries to list all lenses available

[Darren Addy]

I think photodo.com is way ahead on this project.
http://www.photodo.com/browse-lenses

For example: http://www.photodo.com/lens/Tokina-ATX-90mm-f25-Macro-452
With Specifications, User Ratings, User Reviews, and Photos.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> Pre-Autofocus era, third party only, (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron, Vivitar, etc.),
> from the wayback machine.
>
> Condensing the lens wisdom of the Photography groups on UseNet.
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20021001122829/medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html
>
> This is a better start.  I wonder if the author of that new site even knows
> this once existed.
>
> No pictures however but a pretty complete listing  in a text file from
> the 60's through the 80's.
>
> On 12/22/2015 1:15 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> P.J. Alling wrote:
>>>
>>> It looks to be a work in progress. There look to be a lot of holes.
>>
>>
>> that there are, especially since it seems to be for all lenses, not just
>> one brand. But I think it'll be worth keeping an eye on.
>>
>>>
>>> On 12/21/2015 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was trying to find a list of all the various Samyang lenses, to see
 if they made an inexpensive wideish macro and found this website:
 http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/brands/c_21/d_.html

 It doesn't seem to go into tremendous detail on each lens, but it
 still looks very handy.

>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Website that tries to list all lenses available

[Larry Colen]

I guess it is true what they say about the fastest way to get a question 
answered on the internet.


Darren Addy wrote:

I think photodo.com is way ahead on this project.
http://www.photodo.com/browse-lenses

For example: http://www.photodo.com/lens/Tokina-ATX-90mm-f25-Macro-452
With Specifications, User Ratings, User Reviews, and Photos.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM, P.J. Alling
  wrote:

Pre-Autofocus era, third party only, (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron, Vivitar, etc.),
from the wayback machine.

Condensing the lens wisdom of the Photography groups on UseNet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021001122829/medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html

This is a better start.  I wonder if the author of that new site even knows
this once existed.

No pictures however but a pretty complete listing  in a text file from
the 60's through the 80's.




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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Darren Addy]

While Blue Origins' accomplishment was also impressive, it is nowhere
near as ambitious a project as the one SpaceX is doing.
Blue Origin wants to take people (not payloads) to the edge of space
(not orbit itself).
More...
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/24/9793220/blue-origin-vs-spacex-rocket-landing-jeff-bezos-elon-musk


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
> Darren, you just sabotaged my work! ;-)
> Thank you!
>
> Just last week I saw this earlier launch:
> https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28539-watch-blue-origins-surprise-rocket-launch-and-safe-landing/
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> Darren Addy Tue, 22 Dec 2015 07:27:22 -0800 wrote:
>
> If you didn't see it on the news, I watched this live online last
> night and it was so impressive. It's rare to get "goosepimple moments"
> in life, but this was certainly one of them:
>
>
> This jumps to the return of the first stage to the landing pad:
> https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=32m24s
>
> And a shot of it landing taken from a helicopter:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
> It's like something out of a Marvin the Martian cartoon.
>
> Here is the darkness of Stage 1 engine shutdown, followed by ignition
> of Stage 2 engine:
> https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=25m20s
>
> Here is the launch of the 11 satellites:
> https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=37m25s
>
> Camera is on the side with 6, you don.t see the 5 on the other side
> being ejected at the same time (in pairs, until the final one).
>
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Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

[P.J. Alling]

Does it allow a custom setting? Several of my past HP printers allowed 
custom setting with max dimension, of 44", one IIRC had a custom setting 
allowing an effectively unlimited length, though there was no provision 
for roll paper, but they hid that pretty thoroughly.  I haven't used an 
Epson printer in quite some time so I can't help more than that.


On 12/21/2015 11:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
So I accidentally got my R220 to print an 8 1/2" x 19" last night- but 
have not been able to replicate it.  I'm printing from

a file that measures just that.. (this one) at 300 dpi

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-hJV3mnS/A 



I'm printing from Elements 10.  The R220 only has a narrow carriage (8 
1/2")  - I don't know whether it is going wrong

because of the printer or the elements settings...

any ideas? I can't at this point remember all the variations of things 
i tried to get this pano to print to the full size.  it kept
either cropping it or keeping proportions and reducing the size so 
that it would print on a letter sized sheet...


here is that file:
https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-L36BNsN/A 



I got nothin' - can anyone help?

Thanks -

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OT: improve your gas exchange threshold (if you're a cyclist. And not a vegan)

[Bob W-PDML]

http://road.cc/content/news/173553-official-daily-chocolate-consumption-makes-you-better-cyclist

Disclaimer: I have no idea what a gas exchange threshold is, but it sounds like 
it needs improving.

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Ricoh adds free Lightroom tethered shooting for 645z

[Darren Addy]

This news has been out a week, but I missed it until today. If it was
already mentioned and I missed it, then NEVERMIND!

Might be of interest to our 645z owners who shoot indoors/studio:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/12/10/ricoh-adds-free-lightroom-tethered-capture-for-pentax-645z-dslr

I suspect that this will also be available for the K-1, eventually.

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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice composition and bikes. Well done.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> Neat image, Ken. The splotches of brighter OOF color in the background
> really set the subject off nicely!
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
>> 
>> K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
>> 
>> Comments appreciated
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145299=lg
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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[Mark Roberts]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>I am nothing if not politically correct.  
>
>Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
>Druids or other disciples of Sol.
>
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html

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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Jack Davis]

Me too, Paul. When will I learn to re-read my texts and emails?

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Spell check redoes bokeh as bikes. WTF?
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice composition and bikes. Well done.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Neat image, Ken. The splotches of brighter OOF color in the background
>>> really set the subject off nicely!
>>> 
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
 Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
 
 K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
 
 Comments appreciated
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145299=lg
 
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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Rick Womer]

Ridiculous hood ornament. Beautifully done shot.

Rick

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> Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
> 
> K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
> 
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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[Philip Northeast]

But for some of us the sun will rise later and set earlier for the next 
six months - longest day of the year down south


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On 23/12/2015 9:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am nothing if not politically correct.  

Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
Druids or other disciples of Sol.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html

I am pleased that the shortest day of the year is behind us, but I am
depressed that sun will continue to rise later and later every day
until the end of December.

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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

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Spell check redoes bokeh as bikes. WTF?

Paul via phone

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice composition and bikes. Well done.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> 
>> Neat image, Ken. The splotches of brighter OOF color in the background
>> really set the subject off nicely!
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>> Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
>>> 
>>> K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
>>> 
>>> Comments appreciated
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145299=lg
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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[Rick Womer]

Or. "A Salubrious Solstice", as a friend of ours says.

Rick


On Dec 22, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> I am nothing if not politically correct.  
> 
> Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
> Druids or other disciples of Sol.
> 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html
> 
> I am pleased that the shortest day of the year is behind us, but I am
> depressed that sun will continue to rise later and later every day
> until the end of December.
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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Darren Addy]

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:11 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> The sad thing is that the DC-X was doing something like that 20 years ago.
> NASA proved to be incompetent at producing a rocket that took off and landed
> on it's tail, just as Heinlein, intended, and we lost 20 years.

I wouldn't be too hard on NASA. It is difficult to compare technology
accomplishements of different ages. 20 years ago may not seem that
long ago, but think what can be done now making use of GPS satellites
that weren't available then (to consider just one such technology). 20
years ago would have been the Before-GPS-Age.


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Re: Website that tries to list all lenses available

[P.J. Alling]

Their filtering system looks like it was designed by a programmer, not a 
photographer...


(In case you're wondering that's not a good thing).

On 12/22/2015 1:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I think photodo.com is way ahead on this project.
http://www.photodo.com/browse-lenses

For example: http://www.photodo.com/lens/Tokina-ATX-90mm-f25-Macro-452
With Specifications, User Ratings, User Reviews, and Photos.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:

Pre-Autofocus era, third party only, (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron, Vivitar, etc.),
from the wayback machine.

Condensing the lens wisdom of the Photography groups on UseNet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021001122829/medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html

This is a better start.  I wonder if the author of that new site even knows
this once existed.

No pictures however but a pretty complete listing  in a text file from
the 60's through the 80's.

On 12/22/2015 1:15 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



P.J. Alling wrote:

It looks to be a work in progress. There look to be a lot of holes.


that there are, especially since it seems to be for all lenses, not just
one brand. But I think it'll be worth keeping an eye on.


On 12/21/2015 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was trying to find a list of all the various Samyang lenses, to see
if they made an inexpensive wideish macro and found this website:
http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/brands/c_21/d_.html

It doesn't seem to go into tremendous detail on each lens, but it
still looks very handy.





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PESO - Cadillac Man

[Ken Waller]

Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.

K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO

Comments appreciated 


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Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks for input P. J.   - Paul Sorensens helped - thought it was to do 
with Elements 10 but we eliminated that quickly..
the R220 does have a user defined section... but the way it is set up 
was confusing... once I discovered that I had to click
on it in an area I would not have thought about clicking I got to the 
definition place for the printer settings.  So now I'm
all set to peddle the one pagers on ebay... and make other odd shaped 
prints.  waste not, want not


ann

On 12/22/2015 1:31 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Does it allow a custom setting? Several of my past HP printers allowed 
custom setting with max dimension, of 44", one IIRC had a custom 
setting allowing an effectively unlimited length, though there was no 
provision for roll paper, but they hid that pretty thoroughly. I 
haven't used an Epson printer in quite some time so I can't help more 
than that.


On 12/21/2015 11:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
So I accidentally got my R220 to print an 8 1/2" x 19" last night- 
but have not been able to replicate it.  I'm printing from

a file that measures just that.. (this one) at 300 dpi

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-hJV3mnS/A 



I'm printing from Elements 10.  The R220 only has a narrow carriage 
(8 1/2")  - I don't know whether it is going wrong

because of the printer or the elements settings...

any ideas? I can't at this point remember all the variations of 
things i tried to get this pano to print to the full size.  it kept
either cropping it or keeping proportions and reducing the size so 
that it would print on a letter sized sheet...


here is that file:
https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-L36BNsN/A 



I got nothin' - can anyone help?

Thanks -

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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[Bob W-PDML]

On 22 Dec 2015, at 22:16, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I am nothing if not politically correct.  
> 
> Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
> Druids or other disciples of Sol.

But it's not politically correct to exclude all us non-believers: atheists, 
adruids and asols.

B

> 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html
> 
> I am pleased that the shortest day of the year is behind us, but I am
> depressed that sun will continue to rise later and later every day
> until the end of December.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Ricoh adds free Lightroom tethered shooting for 645z

[Bruce Walker]

The deal-breaker is it sends the files directly to Lightroom without
saving them on the SD card as well, and if something glitches you lose
the raw files!  Bad design. The possibility for glitches is _very_
hjgh.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> This news has been out a week, but I missed it until today. If it was
> already mentioned and I missed it, then NEVERMIND!
>
> Might be of interest to our 645z owners who shoot indoors/studio:
> http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/12/10/ricoh-adds-free-lightroom-tethered-capture-for-pentax-645z-dslr
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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[P.J. Alling]

It's just natures way of telling you that you should get up earlier.  I 
hate nature.


On 12/22/2015 5:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am nothing if not politically correct.  

Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
Druids or other disciples of Sol.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html

I am pleased that the shortest day of the year is behind us, but I am
depressed that sun will continue to rise later and later every day
until the end of December.

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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[Christine Aguila]

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
>> I am nothing if not politically correct.  
>> 
>> Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
>> Druids or other disciples of Sol.
>> 
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html
> 
> Keep the Saturn in Saturnalia!


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Re: OT: Happy Solstice

[Christine Aguila]

Same to you, Dan!

Cheers, Christine 



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> 
> I am nothing if not politically correct.  
> 
> Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
> Druids or other disciples of Sol.
> 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html
> 
> I am pleased that the shortest day of the year is behind us, but I am
> depressed that sun will continue to rise later and later every day
> until the end of December.
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Re: Website that tries to list all lenses available

[P.J. Alling]

Pre-Autofocus era, third party only, (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron, Vivitar, 
etc.), from the wayback machine.


Condensing the lens wisdom of the Photography groups on UseNet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021001122829/medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html

This is a better start.  I wonder if the author of that new site even 
knows this once existed.


No pictures however but a pretty complete listing  in a text file 
from the 60's through the 80's.


On 12/22/2015 1:15 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



P.J. Alling wrote:

It looks to be a work in progress. There look to be a lot of holes.


that there are, especially since it seems to be for all lenses, not 
just one brand. But I think it'll be worth keeping an eye on.




On 12/21/2015 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was trying to find a list of all the various Samyang lenses, to see
if they made an inexpensive wideish macro and found this website:
http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/brands/c_21/d_.html

It doesn't seem to go into tremendous detail on each lens, but it
still looks very handy.









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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[P.J. Alling]

The sad thing is that the DC-X was doing something like that 20 years 
ago.  NASA proved to be incompetent at producing a rocket that took off 
and landed on it's tail, just as Heinlein, intended, and we lost 20 years.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X

On 12/22/2015 12:50 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Darren, you just sabotaged my work! ;-)
Thank you!

Just last week I saw this earlier launch:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28539-watch-blue-origins-surprise-rocket-launch-and-safe-landing/ 



Igor



Darren Addy Tue, 22 Dec 2015 07:27:22 -0800 wrote:

If you didn't see it on the news, I watched this live online last
night and it was so impressive. It's rare to get "goosepimple moments"
in life, but this was certainly one of them:


This jumps to the return of the first stage to the landing pad:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=32m24s

And a shot of it landing taken from a helicopter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
It's like something out of a Marvin the Martian cartoon.

Here is the darkness of Stage 1 engine shutdown, followed by ignition
of Stage 2 engine:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=25m20s

Here is the launch of the 11 satellites:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=37m25s

Camera is on the side with 6, you don.t see the 5 on the other side
being ejected at the same time (in pairs, until the final one).





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OT: Happy Solstice

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I am nothing if not politically correct.  

Therefore, I offer a belated Solstice Day greeting to all who may be
Druids or other disciples of Sol.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/12064434/winter-solstice-at-stonehenge-2015-All-you-need-to-know-about-the-shortest-day-of-the-year.html

I am pleased that the shortest day of the year is behind us, but I am
depressed that sun will continue to rise later and later every day
until the end of December.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I like the way you handled the busy background and the bright
highlights.  Well done.

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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
>
> K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
>
> Comments appreciated
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145299=lg
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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Christine Aguila]

Love it , Ken!  Very nicely done!  Cheers, Christine 



> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I like the way you handled the busy background and the bright
> highlights.  Well done.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
>> 
>> K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
>> 
>> Comments appreciated
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PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

[frank theriault]

This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"

Which I did.

He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Alan C]

Obviously a big step forward. Shades of Dan Dare (PP41)! However, I read in 
the news that the French are downplaying this notable achievement saying it 
is no more than a "technological feat".


Alan C

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From: Darren Addy

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Subject: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

I watched this live online last night and it was so impressive. It's
rare to get "goose-pimple moments" in life, but this was one of them:

This jumps to the return of the first stage to the landing pad:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=32m24s

And a shot of it landing taken from a helicopter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
It's like something out of a Marvin the Martian cartoon.

Here is the darkness of Stage 1 engine shutdown, followed by ignition
of Stage 2 engine:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=25m20s

Here is the launch of the 11 satellites:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=37m25s

Camera is on the side with 6, you don’t see the 5 on the other side
being ejected at the same time (in pairs, until the final one).


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Re: PESO More Pretty Lady

[Mark C]

Nice - the new rendering really does pop.

On 12/21/2015 11:58 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Fiddling with the Cardinal pics from this weekend. Here’s the same shot I 
posted with a shite balance change. She was in the shade, and I hadn’t 
originally fooled with the white balance that AWB rendered. I usually add 
warmth in those situations, although there’s no good neutral color in frame by 
which to gauge the white balance. In any case, here’s the warm version:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145090=lg

And my original rendering:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18144667=lg

And here’s another frame from a few seconds earlier, where she is looking the 
other way. I of course cropped it differently:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145089=lg



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Re: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness

[knarf]

Fair enough. I don't think much of her either, likely for different reasons 
than you. 

LOL!

Thanks for commenting.  :-)

Cheers,

frank 

On December 22, 2015 12:25:46 AM EST, Ken Waller  wrote:
>Cool shot knarF, but I hate any image with Jane Fonda in it.
>
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>- Original Message - 
>From: "frank theriault" 
>Subject: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness
>
>
>>A Canadian scene:
>> 
>>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/12/aspirations-of-greatness.html
>> 
>> Taken at Toronto's Ryerson University, next to the Imaging Arts (ie:
>> Photography) Building.
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> frank

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Re: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness

[knarf]

I never aspired to much of anything myself.  LOL!

Thanks for the comment, Jack, it is appreciated. 

Cheers,

frank

On December 21, 2015 11:09:52 PM EST, Jack Davis  wrote:
>A familiar feeling. 
>
>J
>
>- Original Message -
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>
>A Canadian scene:
>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/12/aspirations-of-greatness.html
>
>Taken at Toronto's Ryerson University, next to the Imaging Arts (ie:
>Photography) Building.
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>
>Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness

[knarf]

Appreciate your comments, Rick.

Cheers,

frank

On December 21, 2015 9:38:11 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:
>Great shot, Knarf!  Wonderful composition, great colors, and a quietly
>amusing scene.
>
>Rick
>
>On Dec 21, 2015, at 9:19 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>> A Canadian scene:
>> 
>>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/12/aspirations-of-greatness.html
>> 
>> Taken at Toronto's Ryerson University, next to the Imaging Arts (ie:
>> Photography) Building.
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness

[knarf]

Thanks Paul!

Cheers,

frank

On December 21, 2015 9:33:32 PM EST, Paul Stenquist  
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>Excellent. Stirring.
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 9:19 PM, frank theriault
> wrote:
>> 
>> A Canadian scene:
>> 
>>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/12/aspirations-of-greatness.html
>> 
>> Taken at Toronto's Ryerson University, next to the Imaging Arts (ie:
>> Photography) Building.
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: PESO - On the Waterloo Bridge

[Rick Womer]

Perfectly good reason to me! Thanks.

I tried shooting the bicycles (I haven't seen so many since I was in
Munich) on a bus-free street before reaching the bridge. They =all=
have headlights (bless them!), they move fast, and I just couldn't get
composition and exposure to work.

Rick
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 10:56 PM, knarf  wrote:
> Too bad about the cyclists but I really like this one. Can't explain why,  I 
> just do.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On December 21, 2015 9:13:38 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18144759=lg
>>
>>(K-5, DA 16-45)
>>
>>Unfortunately I wasn't able to include the torrent of bicyclists
>>passing the buses.
>>
>>Comments appreciated.
>>
>>Rick
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OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Darren Addy]

I watched this live online last night and it was so impressive. It's
rare to get "goose-pimple moments" in life, but this was one of them:

This jumps to the return of the first stage to the landing pad:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=32m24s

And a shot of it landing taken from a helicopter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
It's like something out of a Marvin the Martian cartoon.

Here is the darkness of Stage 1 engine shutdown, followed by ignition
of Stage 2 engine:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=25m20s

Here is the launch of the 11 satellites:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=37m25s

Camera is on the side with 6, you don’t see the 5 on the other side
being ejected at the same time (in pairs, until the final one).


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Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, Paul - I will

:-)

ann



On 12/22/2015 12:56 AM, Paul wrote:

Ann -

I still have a copy of PSE10 on my machine.  If you would e-mail me a 
copy of the full rez image file, I'll take a look at it in the morning.


-p

On 12/21/2015 10:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

So I accidentally got my R220 to print an 8 1/2" x 19" last night- but
have not been able to replicate it.  I'm printing from
a file that measures just that.. (this one) at 300 dpi

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-hJV3mnS/A 




I'm printing from Elements 10.  The R220 only has a narrow carriage (8
1/2")  - I don't know whether it is going wrong
because of the printer or the elements settings...

any ideas? I can't at this point remember all the variations of things i
tried to get this pano to print to the full size.  it kept
either cropping it or keeping proportions and reducing the size so that
it would print on a letter sized sheet...

here is that file:
https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-L36BNsN/A 




I got nothin' - can anyone help?

Thanks -

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Re: PESO - Aspirations of Greatness

[Christine Aguila]

That’s excellent, Frank!  Love it!  Cheers, Christine


> On Dec 21, 2015, at 8:19 PM, frank theriault  wrote:
> 
> A Canadian scene:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/12/aspirations-of-greatness.html
> 
> Taken at Toronto's Ryerson University, next to the Imaging Arts (ie:
> Photography) Building.
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: PESO More Pretty Lady

[ann sanfedele]

Like 'em both - slight preference for less saturation but also like 
"eyes left" a lot.. she has a sweeter expression, looks younger somehow.

I found it looking to toggle between the other two..

ann

On 12/21/2015 1:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

The warmer version is a real improvement.

What surprises me about this pic is the range of motion in the bird's
neck. It almost looks as though her head was installed backwards.

Rick
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I can’t recall with any certainty, but I would guess 30 feet.



On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

Like this version somewhat better, Paul.
Here I go again; can you estimate how far you "MAY"
have been from her?
Thanks,

J

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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 8:58:36 AM
Subject: PESO More Pretty Lady

Fiddling with the Cardinal pics from this weekend. Here’s the same shot I 
posted with a shite balance change. She was in the shade, and I hadn’t 
originally fooled with the white balance that AWB rendered. I usually add 
warmth in those situations, although there’s no good neutral color in frame by 
which to gauge the white balance. In any case, here’s the warm version:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145090=lg

And my original rendering:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18144667=lg

And here’s another frame from a few seconds earlier, where she is looking the 
other way. I of course cropped it differently:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145089=lg
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OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[Igor PDML-StR]

Darren, you just sabotaged my work! ;-)
Thank you!

Just last week I saw this earlier launch:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28539-watch-blue-origins-surprise-rocket-launch-and-safe-landing/

Igor



Darren Addy Tue, 22 Dec 2015 07:27:22 -0800 wrote:

If you didn't see it on the news, I watched this live online last
night and it was so impressive. It's rare to get "goosepimple moments"
in life, but this was certainly one of them:


This jumps to the return of the first stage to the landing pad:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=32m24s

And a shot of it landing taken from a helicopter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
It's like something out of a Marvin the Martian cartoon.

Here is the darkness of Stage 1 engine shutdown, followed by ignition
of Stage 2 engine:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=25m20s

Here is the launch of the 11 satellites:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=37m25s

Camera is on the side with 6, you don.t see the 5 on the other side
being ejected at the same time (in pairs, until the final one).


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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

[Paul Stenquist]

His beard and mustache are well trimmed.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:45 PM, frank theriault  
> wrote:
> 
> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
> 
> Which I did.
> 
> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> frank
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Re: Ricoh adds free Lightroom tethered shooting for 645z

[David Mann]

On Dec 23, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> The possibility for glitches is _very_ hjgh.

MARK!


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Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

[P.J. Alling]

I just checked the Canon pixma ix6520 it allows a 91"x2 1/2" custom print.

On 12/21/2015 11:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
So I accidentally got my R220 to print an 8 1/2" x 19" last night- but 
have not been able to replicate it.  I'm printing from

a file that measures just that.. (this one) at 300 dpi

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-hJV3mnS/A 



I'm printing from Elements 10.  The R220 only has a narrow carriage (8 
1/2")  - I don't know whether it is going wrong

because of the printer or the elements settings...

any ideas? I can't at this point remember all the variations of things 
i tried to get this pano to print to the full size.  it kept
either cropping it or keeping proportions and reducing the size so 
that it would print on a letter sized sheet...


here is that file:
https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/n-9xmXn/i-L36BNsN/A 



I got nothin' - can anyone help?

Thanks -

ann









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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Darren Addy]

Neat image, Ken. The splotches of brighter OOF color in the background
really set the subject off nicely!

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Hood ornament from a 1947 (?) Cadillac at a local car show.
>
> K-3, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC F, 1/320, f4.5, 400 ISO
>
> Comments appreciated
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145299=lg
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