Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread mike wilson
As we're having an opinion-fest..

My experience has been that inkjet prints are much easier to produce to an (at
least) adequate level of quality.  I would guess that the effort required to
produce the equivalent of a highest-grade optical print is less than an order of
magnitude different.  The really big difference is when multiple copies of a
print are required.

The jury is still out on equivalence of durability, although modern inkjets are
likely to be better than early mass-printing colour processes.

> On 06 March 2016 at 20:53 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Costco offer a number of different print options, but you can still get
> RA4 C-prints up to 12x18 (and if the operator knows what he's doing
> 12x36 panos).
> 
> Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You think inkjet prints are
> better. I don't.
> 
> On 3/6/2016 2:48 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > Costco prints are inkjet. Most stores print on Epson 7880. Some are
> > Noritsu. Not many shops print optically any more. In my opinion,
> > inkjet are better.
> >
> > Paul
> >> On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:11 PM, John  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 3/6/2016 12:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>  On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> 
>  This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
>  agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
>  "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
>  guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
>  head.
> 
>  I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
>  His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
>  Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
> 
>  With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
>  there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
>  it.
> >>>
> >>> I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a
> >>> cheaper
> >>> one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
> >>>   Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge
> >>> to try
> >>> a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last
> >>> machine, I
> >>> found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped
> >>> the
> >>> head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the
> >>> printer if
> >>> you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that
> >>> only
> >>> Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had
> >>> the
> >>> choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the
> >>> head (no
> >>> nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of
> >>> my
> >>> life.
> >>>
> >>> In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil
> >>> and the
> >>> fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think it depends on the volume of prints. If you're printing EVERY
> >> day, they might make sense. I don't, and anyway, I'm not a fan of
> >> ink-jet prints.
> >>
> >> I like prints from the RA4 process (aka C-prints). For the few items I
> >> feel like printing, it makes sense to send them out.
> >>
> >> Fortunately, for anything up to 12x18, I don't think Costco can be beat.
> >> Plus, I live near one of the Costco stores where the operator knows how
> >> to print 12x36 panos. Not all of them do.
> >>
> >> And any time I want to go larger than 12x18 there are a couple of "pro
> >> labs" locally.
> >>
> >>
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Re: Peso: Glass Still Life

2016-03-06 Thread Alan C

Gives new meaning to "rummaging".

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Bill

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 4:23 AM
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Subject: Peso: Glass Still Life

I decided to dig out a few lenses that haven't seen the light of day for
many, many years. One thing led to another, and I emptied my camera bag,
and took a few lenses out of the display case.

So I lined em up, and shot em down, then I did some cringe worthy post
processing.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/ffreadey.html
Even all Pentax content, for the purists.
K-3, 20-40 LTD. small aperture for a few seconds at 100 ISO..

enjoy

bill

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Re: Peso: Glass Still Life

2016-03-06 Thread David Mann
You know you need to get out more when you take a photo of your lenses!

:)

(Now you're making me miss the ones I sold)

Cheers,
Dave

> On Mar 7, 2016, at 3:23 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I decided to dig out a few lenses that haven't seen the light of day for 
> many, many years. One thing led to another, and I emptied my camera bag, and 
> took a few lenses out of the display case.
> 
> So I lined em up, and shot em down, then I did some cringe worthy post 
> processing.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/ffreadey.html
> Even all Pentax content, for the purists.
> K-3, 20-40 LTD. small aperture for a few seconds at 100 ISO..
> 
> enjoy
> 
> bill
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Re: PESO - the one that flickr picked

2016-03-06 Thread David Mann
Nice, makes me think of Shackleton.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Mar 7, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> As per another thread...
> This photo had its moments of attention at Flickr a couple of days ago.
> It's an oldie from my trip to Antarctica in 2009 that I have submitted to a 
> photo contest. If the flickr reaction is anything to  go by, maybe it will do 
> well... :-) 
> https://flic.kr/p/EJ7yFi
> 
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Re: Peso: Glass Still Life

2016-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
No, I mean the luxury of an obscene number of
lenses. ;-)

J

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On 3/6/2016 9:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> That's obscene, Bill!
>

Yeah, the processing is pretty bad.


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Re: Peso: Glass Still Life

2016-03-06 Thread Bill

On 3/6/2016 9:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

That's obscene, Bill!



Yeah, the processing is pretty bad.


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Re: Peso: Glass Still Life

2016-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
That's obscene, Bill!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I decided to dig out a few lenses that haven't seen the light of day for 
> many, many years. One thing led to another, and I emptied my camera bag, and 
> took a few lenses out of the display case.
> 
> So I lined em up, and shot em down, then I did some cringe worthy post 
> processing.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/ffreadey.html
> Even all Pentax content, for the purists.
> K-3, 20-40 LTD. small aperture for a few seconds at 100 ISO..
> 
> enjoy
> 
> bill
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Peso: Glass Still Life

2016-03-06 Thread Bill
I decided to dig out a few lenses that haven't seen the light of day for 
many, many years. One thing led to another, and I emptied my camera bag, 
and took a few lenses out of the display case.


So I lined em up, and shot em down, then I did some cringe worthy post 
processing.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/ffreadey.html
Even all Pentax content, for the purists.
K-3, 20-40 LTD. small aperture for a few seconds at 100 ISO..

enjoy

bill

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Re: PESO Patient

2016-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Rick. Love snow for pics. Just have to remember that exposure comp.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 6, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I like it - the snowy background somehow compensates for the tangle of 
> branches and keeps it from being too busy.
> 
> One could brighten things around the eye a bit to make it easier to see.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> A Junco waiting for a spot at the feeder. I was pleased that the K3 in 
>> single spot autofocus mode was able to nail him in the eye, rather than 
>> focusing on a branch. K3 with 1.4X converter, DA F 150-450. F8, 1/800th , 
>> ISO 1250 +1.3 exposure comp.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18196639&size=lg
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Re: PESO Patient

2016-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I worked on the eye s bit but didn't want to dull the black eye or black 
feathers. But I'm sure I could do more working on a pixel level.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 6, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I like it - the snowy background somehow compensates for the tangle of 
> branches and keeps it from being too busy.
> 
> One could brighten things around the eye a bit to make it easier to see.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> A Junco waiting for a spot at the feeder. I was pleased that the K3 in 
>> single spot autofocus mode was able to nail him in the eye, rather than 
>> focusing on a branch. K3 with 1.4X converter, DA F 150-450. F8, 1/800th , 
>> ISO 1250 +1.3 exposure comp.
>> 
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Re: PESO Patient

2016-03-06 Thread Rick Womer
I like it - the snowy background somehow compensates for the tangle of branches 
and keeps it from being too busy.

One could brighten things around the eye a bit to make it easier to see.

Rick

On Mar 6, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> A Junco waiting for a spot at the feeder. I was pleased that the K3 in single 
> spot autofocus mode was able to nail him in the eye, rather than focusing on 
> a branch. K3 with 1.4X converter, DA F 150-450. F8, 1/800th , ISO 1250 +1.3 
> exposure comp.
> 
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Re: update on the new printer

2016-03-06 Thread ann sanfedele
according to more than one of the guys in those you-tubes I've ben 
looking at too much running of th head cleaning thing isnt good...
but with my R220 occasionally I had to run it two or three times -- but 
it isn't as much of an ink guzzler as the r2400


This new computer of mine sat idle for over a year - but it had barely 
been used before that


as I said, i'm hopeful
ann

On 3/6/2016 5:25 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

sometimes my 2400 sits for months and i have to do several haed
cleanings, just anFYI for you

Dave

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:09 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Wellsome but not all of the heads are cloggedso that the nozzle check
doesn't even show a pattern
I did use the head cleaning once but then just printed a colorful page of
little squares and the colors were
off, of course.. the lightlight black was so low that I can't do anything
more until I replace it...
I already have replaced 4 cartridges.  The head on the matte black cartridge
is fine..

I've been checking out the you tube stuff and plan to use the advice on two
of them.. meanwhile
I did clean the spikes a bit with windex - the RIte ade version of it, which
I hope is fine..

The good news is , the nice lady I bought it from assured me that if it was
a non starter she WOULD
return my money even though the listing said not. and I'm covered by Ebay
protection anyway.

I remain optimistic that I can get the heads clean... it does print. If not
I'll get my money back and start over.

and I do love the ink jetprints I've gotten from any and all previous Epson
ink jets I've had.. my r220 is
still running strong.

ann

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Re: update on the new printer

2016-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
sometimes my 2400 sits for months and i have to do several haed
cleanings, just anFYI for you

Dave

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:09 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Wellsome but not all of the heads are cloggedso that the nozzle check
> doesn't even show a pattern
> I did use the head cleaning once but then just printed a colorful page of
> little squares and the colors were
> off, of course.. the lightlight black was so low that I can't do anything
> more until I replace it...
> I already have replaced 4 cartridges.  The head on the matte black cartridge
> is fine..
>
> I've been checking out the you tube stuff and plan to use the advice on two
> of them.. meanwhile
> I did clean the spikes a bit with windex - the RIte ade version of it, which
> I hope is fine..
>
> The good news is , the nice lady I bought it from assured me that if it was
> a non starter she WOULD
> return my money even though the listing said not. and I'm covered by Ebay
> protection anyway.
>
> I remain optimistic that I can get the heads clean... it does print. If not
> I'll get my money back and start over.
>
> and I do love the ink jetprints I've gotten from any and all previous Epson
> ink jets I've had.. my r220 is
> still running strong.
>
> ann
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The treasures you find while going through boxes...

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
A modest discovery today...
While going through boxes (trying to find my Gossen Luna Pro F) I
discovered a minty (still in snap case) Pentax AF240FT flash. This
apparently came in an SF1 kit (that was probably purchased for the F50
f/1.7 lens)

Some googling reveals that people used these with Pentax DSLRs and one source:
http://dpanswers.com/roztr/volt_finder.php
shows that it has a trigger voltage of only 2.7v

The manual with specs is here:
http://www.go-gddq.com/down/2011-04/11042113228781.pdf
It seems to be prized especially for its AF Spot Beam

Will have to give it a try. It is a LOT smaller and less weight than
my (admittedly more powerful/versatile) Metz 58 af-1.
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update on the new printer

2016-03-06 Thread ann sanfedele
Wellsome but not all of the heads are cloggedso that the nozzle check 
doesn't even show a pattern
I did use the head cleaning once but then just printed a colorful page 
of little squares and the colors were
off, of course.. the lightlight black was so low that I can't do 
anything more until I replace it...
I already have replaced 4 cartridges.  The head on the matte black 
cartridge is fine..


I've been checking out the you tube stuff and plan to use the advice on 
two of them.. meanwhile
I did clean the spikes a bit with windex - the RIte ade version of it, 
which I hope is fine..


The good news is , the nice lady I bought it from assured me that if it 
was a non starter she WOULD
return my money even though the listing said not. and I'm covered by 
Ebay protection anyway.


I remain optimistic that I can get the heads clean... it does print. If 
not I'll get my money back and start over.


and I do love the ink jetprints I've gotten from any and all previous 
Epson ink jets I've had.. my r220 is

still running strong.

ann

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Re: 1st color film scan on new Epson V600

2016-03-06 Thread P.J. Alling

I see we're going to have to go over the proper PDML procedure here.

First discern there is an issue.

Frame a question to the PDML and post it.

Then decided while waiting for a reply to check Google, Yahoo, Ask, (yes 
each search engine get's worse), until finally trying Bing, not the 
worst exactly, but certainly the last.


Post message that answer has been found, and apologize for wasting group 
bandwidth.


Receive well thought out replies, for next three to six days.

On 2/26/2016 5:13 PM, John wrote:

Research and then ask is NOT the PDML way!

On 2/26/2016 3:37 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks, Malcom.  I just posted that I found that same link.  Logic
would have it that I should research first, then ask the question,
but logic seems to be out to lunch on me today :-).

Cheers, Christine

On Feb 26, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Malcolm Smith  
wrote:


Hi Christine,

http://www.taphilo.com/Photo/kodakfilmnumxref.shtml

May help.

Malcolm


Hi Everyone!

I’ve had my new Epson V600 scanner for a few months now, and 
ironically

I’ve been using it more for document scanning than film.

But today I’ve stole some time to try it out on some color film.  This
was taken with my Pentax MX, and along the film edge it says Kodak
Safety Film 5035.  Anyone have any idea what that means?  If I once
knew, I’ve long since forgotten.

Of this series, this has always been my favorite.  I did some dust
removal, but I can see more work needs to be done.  Also, does it look
like theres a bit of a blue color cast to it?  Or does it look ok to
you guys?

Scanning quality doesn’t look too shabby for a $200 scanner, though if
the expertise of the list says otherwise, I’m willing to be schooled.

Comments welcome.

http://caguilaphotography.com/1stv600scan/content/hot_air_balloon_scan_ 


large.html

Cheers, Christine



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Re: K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
John,
Try a different web browser, if you desire another attempt to see it.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, John  wrote:
> It's probably because they know what I think of them.
>
> On 3/6/2016 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> They just don't like you, I don't have an account and facebook lets me
>> look.
>>
>> On 3/6/2016 3:37 PM, John wrote:
>>>
>>> Too bad. It wants me to "log in to continue."
>>>
>>> EFF 'em. I ain't gonna!
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2016 2:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:


 https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater


 Google the photographer and this is his web site.
 http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn

 His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
 imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
 Fascinating.

>>>
>>
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Re: K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016, at 07:56 AM, John wrote:
> It's probably because they know what I think of them.


I'm sure I think pretty much the same of them - but they let me look at
the pic...


Cheers

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> 
> On 3/6/2016 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
> > They just don't like you, I don't have an account and facebook lets me
> > look.
> >
> > On 3/6/2016 3:37 PM, John wrote:
> >> Too bad. It wants me to "log in to continue."
> >>
> >> EFF 'em. I ain't gonna!
> >>
> >> On 3/6/2016 2:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> >>> Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Google the photographer and this is his web site.
> >>> http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn
> >>>
> >>> His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
> >>> imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
> >>> Fascinating.
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

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Re: K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread P.J. Alling
I keep myself warm at night imagining Zuckerberg, after a long and 
fruitful life of screwing the public going to his just reward, and 
finding himself in Micorsoft's version of hell.  Most delicious because 
he probably doesn't believe in it. It warms the cockles of me heart.  You?


On 3/6/2016 3:56 PM, John wrote:

It's probably because they know what I think of them.

On 3/6/2016 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

They just don't like you, I don't have an account and facebook lets me
look.

On 3/6/2016 3:37 PM, John wrote:

Too bad. It wants me to "log in to continue."

EFF 'em. I ain't gonna!

On 3/6/2016 2:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:

https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater 




Google the photographer and this is his web site.
http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn

His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
Fascinating.











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Re: K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread John

It's probably because they know what I think of them.

On 3/6/2016 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

They just don't like you, I don't have an account and facebook lets me
look.

On 3/6/2016 3:37 PM, John wrote:

Too bad. It wants me to "log in to continue."

EFF 'em. I ain't gonna!

On 3/6/2016 2:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:

https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater


Google the photographer and this is his web site.
http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn

His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
Fascinating.








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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread John

Costco offer a number of different print options, but you can still get
RA4 C-prints up to 12x18 (and if the operator knows what he's doing
12x36 panos).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You think inkjet prints are
better. I don't.

On 3/6/2016 2:48 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Costco prints are inkjet. Most stores print on Epson 7880. Some are
Noritsu. Not many shops print optically any more. In my opinion,
inkjet are better.

Paul

On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:11 PM, John  wrote:

On 3/6/2016 12:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:


This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
"Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
head.

I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM

With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
it.


I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a cheaper
one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to 
try
a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine, I
found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped the
head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the printer if
you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that only
Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had the
choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head (no
nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of my
life.

In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and the
fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.



I think it depends on the volume of prints. If you're printing EVERY
day, they might make sense. I don't, and anyway, I'm not a fan of
ink-jet prints.

I like prints from the RA4 process (aka C-prints). For the few items I
feel like printing, it makes sense to send them out.

Fortunately, for anything up to 12x18, I don't think Costco can be beat.
Plus, I live near one of the Costco stores where the operator knows how
to print 12x36 panos. Not all of them do.

And any time I want to go larger than 12x18 there are a couple of "pro
labs" locally.


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Re: K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread P.J. Alling

They just don't like you, I don't have an account and facebook lets me look.

On 3/6/2016 3:37 PM, John wrote:

Too bad. It wants me to "log in to continue."

EFF 'em. I ain't gonna!

On 3/6/2016 2:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:

https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater 



Google the photographer and this is his web site.
http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn

His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
Fascinating.






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PESO Patient

2016-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
A Junco waiting for a spot at the feeder. I was pleased that the K3 in single 
spot autofocus mode was able to nail him in the eye, rather than focusing on a 
branch. K3 with 1.4X converter, DA F 150-450. F8, 1/800th , ISO 1250 +1.3 
exposure comp.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18196639&size=lg
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Re: K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread John

Too bad. It wants me to "log in to continue."

EFF 'em. I ain't gonna!

On 3/6/2016 2:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:

https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater

Google the photographer and this is his web site.
http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn

His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
Fascinating.



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B&W Film Developer Master's Class

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
This may be of interest to only a few, but I pass it along anyway...

If you want a "Master's Class" in B&W film developers, you have to get
a copy of the 1998 "The Film Developing Cookbook". WOW. Just received
my copy and it is a well-organized, easy read on the various families
of developers, what they are best at as well as the formulas to make
your own. There are also chapters on Films (obviously dated),
Developer ingredients, Development Procedures, and After Development
Processes: Stop Baths, Fixers, Washing.

The book has "three special emphases: how to use different developers
to achieve a wide range of pictorial effects, how to mix and use
solutions from scratch (and how to create new ones), and how to
process film for maximum archival permanance." "Much of the
information in this book have never been published before."

A quick perusal allows me to say that this includes a formula for
HC-110 gleaned from its 1971 Patent information. (However, convenient,
versatile and economical as HC-110 may be "it produces coarser grain
than D-76, and is not as sharp as many high acutance developers." Page
67 contains Edwal formulas, including Edwal Super 20: "The official
formula for Super 20 has never before been published, though several
popular authors have (incorrectly) claimed to know it."

The book was begun as a response to difficulty people had getting good
images from Kodak's Tmax film. (I have about 13 36-exposure rolls of
Tmax 100 in inventory.)

If you are interested in B&W film developing, I can't recommend it
highly enough.

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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Costco prints are inkjet. Most stores print on Epson 7880. Some are Noritsu. 
Not many shops print optically any more. In my opinion, inkjet are better.

Paul
> On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:11 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 3/6/2016 12:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
>>> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
>>> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
>>> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
>>> head.
>>> 
>>> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
>>> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
>>> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
>>> 
>>> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
>>> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
>>> it.
>> 
>> I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a 
>> cheaper
>> one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
>>  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to 
>> try
>> a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine, I
>> found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped 
>> the
>> head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the 
>> printer if
>> you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that 
>> only
>> Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had the
>> choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head 
>> (no
>> nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of my
>> life.
>> 
>> In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and 
>> the
>> fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
>> 
> 
> I think it depends on the volume of prints. If you're printing EVERY
> day, they might make sense. I don't, and anyway, I'm not a fan of
> ink-jet prints.
> 
> I like prints from the RA4 process (aka C-prints). For the few items I
> feel like printing, it makes sense to send them out.
> 
> Fortunately, for anything up to 12x18, I don't think Costco can be beat.
> Plus, I live near one of the Costco stores where the operator knows how
> to print 12x36 panos. Not all of them do.
> 
> And any time I want to go larger than 12x18 there are a couple of "pro
> labs" locally.
> 
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K-1 image by Joey Skibel

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
Ricoh Imaging just shared this in their FB channel:

https://www.facebook.com/RicohImaging/photos/a.173724382692.132787.101083642692/10153226773752693/?type=3&theater

Google the photographer and this is his web site.
http://www.joeyskibel.com/#!bio/r8wkn

His bio says: "Skibel is now a Creative Master for Ricoh/Pentax
imaging". It appears that he has migrated to Pentax from Canon.
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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread John

On 3/6/2016 12:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:


This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
"Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
head.

I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM

With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
it.


I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a cheaper
one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to 
try
a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine, I
found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped the
head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the printer if
you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that only
Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had the
choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head (no
nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of my
life.

In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and the
fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.



I think it depends on the volume of prints. If you're printing EVERY
day, they might make sense. I don't, and anyway, I'm not a fan of
ink-jet prints.

I like prints from the RA4 process (aka C-prints). For the few items I
feel like printing, it makes sense to send them out.

Fortunately, for anything up to 12x18, I don't think Costco can be beat.
Plus, I live near one of the Costco stores where the operator knows how
to print 12x36 panos. Not all of them do.

And any time I want to go larger than 12x18 there are a couple of "pro
labs" locally.


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Re: PESO - the one that flickr picked

2016-03-06 Thread Alan C
A stark reminder of a terrible business. Just a rusting hulk in 2009 I 
presume? My maternal grandfather (Swedish) was a marine engineer with the 
old Union Whaling Company which operated from Durban. He spent about 7 
months each year in Antarctica. There were many photos in his albums of 
whale catchers like that, crows-nest, harpoon gun and all. Some were used as 
sub chasers along the Natal coast by the SA navy during WW2. My father was 
on the T33 when it ran aground at the Umgeni river mouth in 1942 during a 
gale. Whaling operations ceased in 1953.


Alan C

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From: Jostein Øksne

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Subject: PESO - the one that flickr picked

As per another thread...
This photo had its moments of attention at Flickr a couple of days ago.
It's an oldie from my trip to Antarctica in 2009 that I have submitted to a 
photo contest. If the flickr reaction is anything to  go by, maybe it will 
do well... :-)

https://flic.kr/p/EJ7yFi

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Re: Q about flickr

2016-03-06 Thread John

Possibly someone with a fairly large following found it,
clicked the "share" button and it snowballed from there.

https://www.flickr.com/explore

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/

On 3/6/2016 10:28 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

Hope there are some flickr savvy folks here who could help me explain
something...

A week ago I posted 16 images at Flickr to share with local
photographers; we have just submitted a number of entries to an
Austrian photo competition together, and use flickr to excange info
on our selections.

Then, much to my surprise, comments and views on one particular image
poured in like I've never seen before. It got almost 4000 "favourite"
clicks before attention waned. That's one order of magnitude above
any other image I've ever posted there. None of the other pics in
that album received any attention at all.

I really don't know much about the dynamics of the flickr site, but
somehow that particular image must have been picked up and given some
extra exposure. Any ideas what could have caused such a sudden blip
of attention?

Will post the image later.

Jostein



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Re: PESO - the one that flickr picked

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
Antarctica! Wow!
Cool shot and worthy of the accolades. Low color images like that
always beckon me to see what they look like in monochrome (AKA Silver
Efex Pro 2).
:)

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> As per another thread...
> This photo had its moments of attention at Flickr a couple of days ago.
> It's an oldie from my trip to Antarctica in 2009 that I have submitted to a 
> photo contest. If the flickr reaction is anything to  go by, maybe it will do 
> well... :-)
> https://flic.kr/p/EJ7yFi
>
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PESO - the one that flickr picked

2016-03-06 Thread Jostein Øksne
As per another thread...
This photo had its moments of attention at Flickr a couple of days ago.
It's an oldie from my trip to Antarctica in 2009 that I have submitted to a 
photo contest. If the flickr reaction is anything to  go by, maybe it will do 
well... :-) 
https://flic.kr/p/EJ7yFi

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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks Mike. Fortunately Google-Fu is my superpower, so have turned up
some interesting things to investigate. The idea of layering two less
dense laser transparencies (carefully registering them) opens up some
possibilities (although the downside is using obviously more
transparency material). I may have to experiment!

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> Urgh... you're asking me to _remember_ something?
>
> It's a very long time ago but I think I used one of the "artistic" filters in 
> PS
> to pick up the edges of an image, turned that into a negative as it made the
> edges light against a black background before reversal, and then printed that
> onto the film.  This gave a predominantly blue background with a white image.
>  It was only for a class on photochemistry, so the quality of the image wasn't
> important to anyone but me.  Quite a bit of experimentation was needed with
> exposure.  There was almost no consistency between images made with the same
> negative, due to the handmade nature of the substrate.
>
>> On 06 March 2016 at 18:07 Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>> I'd love to have some links on how to do digital negatives for
>> cyanotypes on LASER printers. Didn't know that was possible. I've got
>> access to good laser printers at work (including a copier that can do
>> 11x17) and I've got a Liquid Cyanotype kit from Photographer's
>> Formulary sitting here itching to do some watercolor paper cyanotypes
>> of a particular digital image that I have. I've got a pack of
>> transparency material also.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:49 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> >> On 06 March 2016 at 17:40 Darren Addy  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I tend to agree with you Mike.
>> >> With the prices at places like sharpprints.com I find it hard to
>> >> justify the expense of an inkjet. In many cases you are going to have
>> >> to gamble on $100 or more for a set of ink just to see what you've
>> >> got. I'm in that position right now with an old Epson R800. It was
>> >> given to me and I assume there will be heads clogged (which is why I'm
>> >> researching). I'm mostly interested in using it to print on overhead
>> >> transparency material to make digital negatives for contact
>> >> printing/alternative processing. I think I remember seeing a process
>> >> that will allow you to use only three black/grey inks (that you can
>> >> put in any three working positions on your printer (forget the clogged
>> >> ones)... so may try that approach if I can't get all of them
>> >> unplugged.
>> >
>> > That sounds interesting.  I've used laser printed ones to make negs for
>> > cyanotypes.  Keeping us informed of progress would be appreciated, at least
>> > by
>> > me.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If I can learn the transparency digital negative technique, I might
>> >> think about a wide format printer for the same purpose, down the road.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mike wilson 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
>> >> >> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
>> >> >> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
>> >> >> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
>> >> >> head.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
>> >> >> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is 
>> >> >> ingenious.
>> >> >> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
>> >> >>
>> >> >> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
>> >> >> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
>> >> >> it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a
>> >> > cheaper
>> >> > one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not 
>> >> > clear.
>> >> >  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet 
>> >> > knowledge
>> >> > to
>> >> > try
>> >> > a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last
>> >> > machine,
>> >> > I
>> >> > found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I
>> >> > swapped
>> >> > the
>> >> > head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the
>> >> > printer if
>> >> > you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge 
>> >> > that
>> >> > only
>> >> > Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then 
>> >> > had
>> >> > the
>> >> > choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the
>> >> > head
>> >> > (no
>> >> > nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks
>> >> > of
>> >> > my
>> >> > life.
>> >> >
>> >> > In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn o

Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread mike wilson
Urgh... you're asking me to _remember_ something?

It's a very long time ago but I think I used one of the "artistic" filters in PS
to pick up the edges of an image, turned that into a negative as it made the
edges light against a black background before reversal, and then printed that
onto the film.  This gave a predominantly blue background with a white image.
 It was only for a class on photochemistry, so the quality of the image wasn't
important to anyone but me.  Quite a bit of experimentation was needed with
exposure.  There was almost no consistency between images made with the same
negative, due to the handmade nature of the substrate.

> On 06 March 2016 at 18:07 Darren Addy  wrote:
>   
> 
> Mike,
> I'd love to have some links on how to do digital negatives for
> cyanotypes on LASER printers. Didn't know that was possible. I've got
> access to good laser printers at work (including a copier that can do
> 11x17) and I've got a Liquid Cyanotype kit from Photographer's
> Formulary sitting here itching to do some watercolor paper cyanotypes
> of a particular digital image that I have. I've got a pack of
> transparency material also.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:49 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> >> On 06 March 2016 at 17:40 Darren Addy  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I tend to agree with you Mike.
> >> With the prices at places like sharpprints.com I find it hard to
> >> justify the expense of an inkjet. In many cases you are going to have
> >> to gamble on $100 or more for a set of ink just to see what you've
> >> got. I'm in that position right now with an old Epson R800. It was
> >> given to me and I assume there will be heads clogged (which is why I'm
> >> researching). I'm mostly interested in using it to print on overhead
> >> transparency material to make digital negatives for contact
> >> printing/alternative processing. I think I remember seeing a process
> >> that will allow you to use only three black/grey inks (that you can
> >> put in any three working positions on your printer (forget the clogged
> >> ones)... so may try that approach if I can't get all of them
> >> unplugged.
> >
> > That sounds interesting.  I've used laser printed ones to make negs for
> > cyanotypes.  Keeping us informed of progress would be appreciated, at least
> > by
> > me.
> >
> >>
> >> If I can learn the transparency digital negative technique, I might
> >> think about a wide format printer for the same purpose, down the road.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mike wilson 
> >> wrote:
> >> >> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
> >> >> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
> >> >> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
> >> >> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
> >> >> head.
> >> >>
> >> >> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
> >> >> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
> >> >> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
> >> >>
> >> >> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
> >> >> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
> >> >> it.
> >> >
> >> > I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a
> >> > cheaper
> >> > one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
> >> >  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge
> >> > to
> >> > try
> >> > a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last
> >> > machine,
> >> > I
> >> > found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I
> >> > swapped
> >> > the
> >> > head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the
> >> > printer if
> >> > you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that
> >> > only
> >> > Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had
> >> > the
> >> > choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the
> >> > head
> >> > (no
> >> > nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks
> >> > of
> >> > my
> >> > life.
> >> >
> >> > In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil
> >> > and
> >> > the
> >> > fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
> >> >
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Re: Q about flickr

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
It is a secret how it works, so people don't game the system, but my
sense is that Flickr has a special stream set up for Explore
moderators to view. The photos included in that stream are those that
get a lot of favorites/to views ratio. More immediate reactions and
time of day (or day of week) can also enter into it. But I think a
human moderator picks from that stream (and probably has a certain
number of votes per day that each moderator can use). There may even
be a Super Moderator that looks at the lower moderator's choices and
picks from them. (These are all just guesses). But once you are in
Explore you are in a stream that a LOT of people look at. You'll find
a lot of people will favorite, but few will comment (based upon my
experience). That made me realize that a photo that people take the
time/effort to COMMENT on is probably better than one that people just
favorite.

But it is still an honor and a nice way to indicate which photos might
be saleable (resonate with the public). Would you mind sharing the
link to your Explored image?

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> Thanks Darren!
> You're right. There was something about explore. Is that some kind of curated 
> photostream? When I Google it, I only find dos/don'ts for how to get photos 
> in there, and nothing on how it is selected or presented to users...
> Sorry about being totally noob here... :-(
>
> Jostein
>
> Den 6. mars 2016 18.09.30 CET, skrev Darren Addy :
>>Your image was probably chosen by Flickr Explore. Congrats!
>>
>>http://www.fluidr.com will show you all of the day's Explore shots.
>>You can also enter your username here to see what images are in
>>Explore: https://bighugelabs.com/scout.php
>>
>>You should probably also see an Explore Invite for you to accept in
>>the photos comments.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, ann sanfedele 
>>wrote:
>>> Funny you should ask...
>>> Something like that happened recently to me on smugmug...  the amount
>>of
>>> hits on my page on feb 16 zoomed to 5,000
>>> yet, the photo I posted that day only had the usual approximatel 200
>>to 300
>>> that I normally get when PEso'ing
>>>
>>> Interesting that the anomally happens on other sites as well. very
>>> mysterious
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2016 10:28 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

 Hope there are some flickr savvy folks here who could help me
>>explain
 something...

 A week ago I posted 16 images at Flickr to share with local
>>photographers;
 we have just submitted a number of entries to an Austrian photo
>>competition
 together, and use flickr to excange info on our selections.

 Then, much to my surprise, comments and views on one particular
>>image
 poured in like I've never seen before. It got almost 4000
>>"favourite" clicks
 before attention waned. That's one order of magnitude above any
>>other image
 I've ever posted there. None of the other pics in that album
>>received any
 attention at all.

 I really don't know much about the dynamics of the flickr site, but
 somehow that particular image must have been picked up and given
>>some extra
 exposure. Any ideas what could have caused such a sudden blip of
>>attention?

 Will post the image later.

 Jostein
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
Mike,
I'd love to have some links on how to do digital negatives for
cyanotypes on LASER printers. Didn't know that was possible. I've got
access to good laser printers at work (including a copier that can do
11x17) and I've got a Liquid Cyanotype kit from Photographer's
Formulary sitting here itching to do some watercolor paper cyanotypes
of a particular digital image that I have. I've got a pack of
transparency material also.

Thanks in advance!

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:49 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> On 06 March 2016 at 17:40 Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I tend to agree with you Mike.
>> With the prices at places like sharpprints.com I find it hard to
>> justify the expense of an inkjet. In many cases you are going to have
>> to gamble on $100 or more for a set of ink just to see what you've
>> got. I'm in that position right now with an old Epson R800. It was
>> given to me and I assume there will be heads clogged (which is why I'm
>> researching). I'm mostly interested in using it to print on overhead
>> transparency material to make digital negatives for contact
>> printing/alternative processing. I think I remember seeing a process
>> that will allow you to use only three black/grey inks (that you can
>> put in any three working positions on your printer (forget the clogged
>> ones)... so may try that approach if I can't get all of them
>> unplugged.
>
> That sounds interesting.  I've used laser printed ones to make negs for
> cyanotypes.  Keeping us informed of progress would be appreciated, at least by
> me.
>
>>
>> If I can learn the transparency digital negative technique, I might
>> think about a wide format printer for the same purpose, down the road.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> >> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
>> >> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
>> >> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
>> >> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
>> >> head.
>> >>
>> >> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
>> >> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
>> >> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
>> >>
>> >> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
>> >> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
>> >> it.
>> >
>> > I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a
>> > cheaper
>> > one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
>> >  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge 
>> > to
>> > try
>> > a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine,
>> > I
>> > found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped
>> > the
>> > head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the
>> > printer if
>> > you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that
>> > only
>> > Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had
>> > the
>> > choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head
>> > (no
>> > nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of
>> > my
>> > life.
>> >
>> > In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil 
>> > and
>> > the
>> > fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
>> >
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Re: Q about flickr

2016-03-06 Thread Jostein Øksne
Thanks Darren! 
You're right. There was something about explore. Is that some kind of curated 
photostream? When I Google it, I only find dos/don'ts for how to get photos in 
there, and nothing on how it is selected or presented to users...
Sorry about being totally noob here... :-( 

Jostein 

Den 6. mars 2016 18.09.30 CET, skrev Darren Addy :
>Your image was probably chosen by Flickr Explore. Congrats!
>
>http://www.fluidr.com will show you all of the day's Explore shots.
>You can also enter your username here to see what images are in
>Explore: https://bighugelabs.com/scout.php
>
>You should probably also see an Explore Invite for you to accept in
>the photos comments.
>
>
>On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, ann sanfedele 
>wrote:
>> Funny you should ask...
>> Something like that happened recently to me on smugmug...  the amount
>of
>> hits on my page on feb 16 zoomed to 5,000
>> yet, the photo I posted that day only had the usual approximatel 200
>to 300
>> that I normally get when PEso'ing
>>
>> Interesting that the anomally happens on other sites as well. very
>> mysterious
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 3/6/2016 10:28 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>>
>>> Hope there are some flickr savvy folks here who could help me
>explain
>>> something...
>>>
>>> A week ago I posted 16 images at Flickr to share with local
>photographers;
>>> we have just submitted a number of entries to an Austrian photo
>competition
>>> together, and use flickr to excange info on our selections.
>>>
>>> Then, much to my surprise, comments and views on one particular
>image
>>> poured in like I've never seen before. It got almost 4000
>"favourite" clicks
>>> before attention waned. That's one order of magnitude above any
>other image
>>> I've ever posted there. None of the other pics in that album
>received any
>>> attention at all.
>>>
>>> I really don't know much about the dynamics of the flickr site, but
>>> somehow that particular image must have been picked up and given
>some extra
>>> exposure. Any ideas what could have caused such a sudden blip of
>attention?
>>>
>>> Will post the image later.
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread mike wilson
> On 06 March 2016 at 17:40 Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> 
> I tend to agree with you Mike.
> With the prices at places like sharpprints.com I find it hard to
> justify the expense of an inkjet. In many cases you are going to have
> to gamble on $100 or more for a set of ink just to see what you've
> got. I'm in that position right now with an old Epson R800. It was
> given to me and I assume there will be heads clogged (which is why I'm
> researching). I'm mostly interested in using it to print on overhead
> transparency material to make digital negatives for contact
> printing/alternative processing. I think I remember seeing a process
> that will allow you to use only three black/grey inks (that you can
> put in any three working positions on your printer (forget the clogged
> ones)... so may try that approach if I can't get all of them
> unplugged.

That sounds interesting.  I've used laser printed ones to make negs for
cyanotypes.  Keeping us informed of progress would be appreciated, at least by
me.

> 
> If I can learn the transparency digital negative technique, I might
> think about a wide format printer for the same purpose, down the road.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> >> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
> >> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
> >> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
> >> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
> >> head.
> >>
> >> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
> >> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
> >> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
> >>
> >> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
> >> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
> >> it.
> >
> > I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a
> > cheaper
> > one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
> >  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to
> > try
> > a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine,
> > I
> > found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped
> > the
> > head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the
> > printer if
> > you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that
> > only
> > Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had
> > the
> > choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head
> > (no
> > nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of
> > my
> > life.
> >
> > In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and
> > the
> > fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
> >
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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
I tend to agree with you Mike.
With the prices at places like sharpprints.com I find it hard to
justify the expense of an inkjet. In many cases you are going to have
to gamble on $100 or more for a set of ink just to see what you've
got. I'm in that position right now with an old Epson R800. It was
given to me and I assume there will be heads clogged (which is why I'm
researching). I'm mostly interested in using it to print on overhead
transparency material to make digital negatives for contact
printing/alternative processing. I think I remember seeing a process
that will allow you to use only three black/grey inks (that you can
put in any three working positions on your printer (forget the clogged
ones)... so may try that approach if I can't get all of them
unplugged.

If I can learn the transparency digital negative technique, I might
think about a wide format printer for the same purpose, down the road.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
>> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
>> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
>> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
>> head.
>>
>> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
>> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
>> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
>>
>> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
>> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
>> it.
>
> I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a 
> cheaper
> one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
>  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to 
> try
> a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine, I
> found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped the
> head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the printer 
> if
> you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that only
> Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had the
> choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head 
> (no
> nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of my
> life.
>
> In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and 
> the
> fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
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Re: Recovery of clogged inkjet print heads

2016-03-06 Thread mike wilson
> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
> head.
> 
> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
> 
> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
> it.

I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a cheaper
one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
 Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to try
a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine, I
found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped the
head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the printer if
you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that only
Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had the
choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head (no
nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of my
life.

In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and the
fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.

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Re: Q about flickr

2016-03-06 Thread Darren Addy
Your image was probably chosen by Flickr Explore. Congrats!

http://www.fluidr.com will show you all of the day's Explore shots.
You can also enter your username here to see what images are in
Explore: https://bighugelabs.com/scout.php

You should probably also see an Explore Invite for you to accept in
the photos comments.


On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Funny you should ask...
> Something like that happened recently to me on smugmug...  the amount of
> hits on my page on feb 16 zoomed to 5,000
> yet, the photo I posted that day only had the usual approximatel 200 to 300
> that I normally get when PEso'ing
>
> Interesting that the anomally happens on other sites as well. very
> mysterious
>
> ann
>
> On 3/6/2016 10:28 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>
>> Hope there are some flickr savvy folks here who could help me explain
>> something...
>>
>> A week ago I posted 16 images at Flickr to share with local photographers;
>> we have just submitted a number of entries to an Austrian photo competition
>> together, and use flickr to excange info on our selections.
>>
>> Then, much to my surprise, comments and views on one particular image
>> poured in like I've never seen before. It got almost 4000 "favourite" clicks
>> before attention waned. That's one order of magnitude above any other image
>> I've ever posted there. None of the other pics in that album received any
>> attention at all.
>>
>> I really don't know much about the dynamics of the flickr site, but
>> somehow that particular image must have been picked up and given some extra
>> exposure. Any ideas what could have caused such a sudden blip of attention?
>>
>> Will post the image later.
>>
>> Jostein
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Re: Q about flickr

2016-03-06 Thread ann sanfedele

Funny you should ask...
Something like that happened recently to me on smugmug...  the amount of 
hits on my page on feb 16 zoomed to 5,000
yet, the photo I posted that day only had the usual approximatel 200 to 
300 that I normally get when PEso'ing


Interesting that the anomally happens on other sites as well. very 
mysterious


ann

On 3/6/2016 10:28 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

Hope there are some flickr savvy folks here who could help me explain 
something...

A week ago I posted 16 images at Flickr to share with local photographers; we 
have just submitted a number of entries to an Austrian photo competition 
together, and use flickr to excange info on our selections.

Then, much to my surprise, comments and views on one particular image poured in like I've 
never seen before. It got almost 4000 "favourite" clicks before attention 
waned. That's one order of magnitude above any other image I've ever posted there. None 
of the other pics in that album received any attention at all.

I really don't know much about the dynamics of the flickr site, but somehow 
that particular image must have been picked up and given some extra exposure. 
Any ideas what could have caused such a sudden blip of attention?

Will post the image later.

Jostein



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Q about flickr

2016-03-06 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hope there are some flickr savvy folks here who could help me explain 
something...

A week ago I posted 16 images at Flickr to share with local photographers; we 
have just submitted a number of entries to an Austrian photo competition 
together, and use flickr to excange info on our selections.

Then, much to my surprise, comments and views on one particular image poured in 
like I've never seen before. It got almost 4000 "favourite" clicks before 
attention waned. That's one order of magnitude above any other image I've ever 
posted there. None of the other pics in that album received any attention at 
all. 

I really don't know much about the dynamics of the flickr site, but somehow 
that particular image must have been picked up and given some extra exposure. 
Any ideas what could have caused such a sudden blip of attention? 

Will post the image later.

Jostein 
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Re: PESO - New Building

2016-03-06 Thread Alan C
That screening is very interesting - looks like a multi-layer thing. I'll 
bet someone will try climbing it.


Alan C

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Subject: PESO - New Building

This is one facade of Penn's new psychology-neural sciences building. I 
thought it made an interesting abstract.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18196220&size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 Ltd.)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - New Building

2016-03-06 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Ann.  I suspect there will more PESOs featuring this building as it 
becomes occupied and the tree on the left (and a few others) leaf out.

Rick

On Mar 5, 2016, at 9:46 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

> Yup yup yup - love it
> ann
> 
> On 3/5/2016 6:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> This is one facade of Penn's new psychology-neural sciences building. I 
>> thought it made an interesting abstract.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18196220&size=lg
>> 
>> (K-5, DA 40/2.8 Ltd.)
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Dusting of Snow

2016-03-06 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks Jack!

On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Really nice effect, Rick!
> J
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Womer" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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> Subject: PESO - Dusting of Snow
> 
> My walk to work this morning required a less scenic route than usual, but the 
> falling snow reminded me of this shot from a couple of weeks ago:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18191465&size=lg
> 
> (K-5, DA 40/2.8 Ltd.)
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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