Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread David Mann
I'm going to buck the trend and say I like #2 best because of the person in the 
background.

> On May 31, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Paul  wrote:
> 
> Number three for me, too.  Kind of liked number two, but the position of her 
> right leg makes her look like an amputee.
> 
> -p
> 
> On 5/30/2016 1:35 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
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>> Hi All:
>> 
>> I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
>> So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
>> All comments and critique are welcome.
>> (Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)
>> 
>> I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for
>> others:
>> http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/
>> 
>> Thank you in advance,
>> 
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Re: PESO: Greek Soldier

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking and commenting, JC.

I agree about chopping off the top of his head, but he was moving fast
towards me, and I got what I was able to get.  I just like his face
and his stern expression.
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On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:09 AM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> slightly wider would have been better as to not trim the top of his head.
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 8:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18238990&size=md
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Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Thank you, Paul, Jack, Ann, and Paul, for your response and suggestions.
Your unanimous vote actually coincides with my own preference.
I am somewhat surprised nobody has picked any of the B&W renditions.

Paul and Jack: I will try to see how it looks with the left side cropped. 
I can see how that would make the paved walkway to look symmetric.
But at the moment, I am not sure that would yield a good placement for the 
kid within the frame.


Igor


On Mon, 30 May 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi All:

I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
All comments and critique are welcome.
(Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)

I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for 
others:

http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/

Thank you in advance,

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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Stanley Halpin
She is doing well. For her, life will always be a drama but at the moment she 
seems to be starring and getting good reviews. [With apologies for the late 
night mangled metaphor…]

stan

> On May 30, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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> "Fairy Girl" when she first posted on the list. I wonder how she's doing. I 
> think 2004 was the year I actually started packing. Don't recall what 
> happened to change my plans, but something always happened.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On May 30, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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>> ann sanfedele wrote:
>> 
>>> Is that Tanya behind him?
>> 
>> Yup.
>> 
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 year's PDML book is from GFM 2004.
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Re: PESO: Greek Soldier

2016-05-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell

slightly wider would have been better as to not trim the top of his head.

On 5/30/2016 8:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18238990&size=md
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Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread Paul
Number three for me, too.  Kind of liked number two, but the position of 
her right leg makes her look like an amputee.


-p

On 5/30/2016 1:35 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All:

I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
All comments and critique are welcome.
(Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)

I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for
others:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/

Thank you in advance,

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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele

Ah yes , I remember it well...

nice memories

ann

On 5/30/2016 8:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


ann sanfedele wrote:


Is that Tanya behind him?

Yup.

Cotty did the best write-up of the 2004 meet-up:
http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/gfm04.html
Wre had PDML members visiting from Canada, Norway, Australia, the UK
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
"Fairy Girl" when she first posted on the list. I wonder how she's doing. I 
think 2004 was the year I actually started packing. Don't recall what happened 
to change my plans, but something always happened.

Paul via phone

> On May 30, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> ann sanfedele wrote:
> 
>> Is that Tanya behind him?
> 
> Yup.
> 
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>>> year's PDML book is from GFM 2004.
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PESO: Greek Soldier

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

>ann sanfedele wrote:
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>>Is that Tanya behind him?
>
>Yup.

Cotty did the best write-up of the 2004 meet-up:
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote:

>Is that Tanya behind him?

Yup.

>> BTW: The photo of Doug Brewer (at the end of the Foreword) in this
>> year's PDML book is from GFM 2004.
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele

Is that Tanya behind him?

ann


On 5/30/2016 7:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.

BTW: The photo of Doug Brewer (at the end of the Foreword) in this
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
2005


On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 7:19 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I think that was the year of the chainsaw... or was it 2005?
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 6:49 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:48 PM, David J Brooks 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

 Then I'll have to come too!  ... :-)

 ann, the 4th muskateer
>>>
>>> Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.
>>
>> I'll even bring my G4 Ibook for old time sake
>>
>>> Dave


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> David J Brooks wrote:
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>> Have a safe trip. If i do retire after this school year, right now its
>> at 99.99% i just may make it next year
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele

duh - it was 2005 -  That was a great time!

2007 I rode down with Scott Loveless

some memories here -

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Grandfather-Mountain-Memories/

and 2007 is here

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/The-2007-trip-to-Grandfather/


nostalgia...

ann


On 5/30/2016 7:19 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I think that was the year of the chainsaw... or was it 2005?

ann


On 5/30/2016 6:49 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:48 PM, David J Brooks  
wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, ann sanfedele  
wrote:

Then I'll have to come too!  ... :-)

ann, the 4th muskateer

Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.

I'll even bring my G4 Ibook for old time sake


Dave


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David J Brooks wrote:

Have a safe trip. If i do retire after this school year, right 
now its

at 99.99% i just may make it next year

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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele

I think that was the year of the chainsaw... or was it 2005?

ann


On 5/30/2016 6:49 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:48 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Then I'll have to come too!  ... :-)

ann, the 4th muskateer

Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.

I'll even bring my G4 Ibook for old time sake


Dave


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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:

>Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.

BTW: The photo of Doug Brewer (at the end of the Foreword) in this
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:48 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> Then I'll have to come too!  ... :-)
>>
>> ann, the 4th muskateer
>
> Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.

I'll even bring my G4 Ibook for old time sake

>
> Dave
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/2016 1:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Then I'll have to come too!  ... :-)
>
> ann, the 4th muskateer

Well, next year, 2017 will be 10 years since my last visit.

Dave
>
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Re: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2

2016-05-30 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thanks. I think I was lucky with the weather, it was quite a windless day.

On 29 May 2016 at 15:31, Mark C  wrote:
> Classic image - the mirror like smooth water is great.
>
> On 5/26/2016 7:29 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>
>> One more from the Golden Pavilion
>>
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/E16tZA
>> or
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18237407
>>
>> Kyoto, Jan 2016
>>
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>> 1/80s @ f/8, ISO640
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Re: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2

2016-05-30 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thanks Dan.

On 26 May 2016 at 18:19, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> A very fine image of a wonderful place.
>
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>> One more from the Golden Pavilion
>>
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>> https://flic.kr/p/E16tZA
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18237407
>>
>> Kyoto, Jan 2016
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Re: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2

2016-05-30 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thanks Bob. A thought provoking comment as I don't think I'd noticed
or was consciously thinking about the 3D effect you mention at the
time I took the photo. It's probably something I /should/ be thinking
about.

On 26 May 2016 at 15:06, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> The tree creates a 3d effect in the image.
> Quite lovely really.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Eric Featherstone
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>> One more from the Golden Pavilion
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>> https://flic.kr/p/E16tZA
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>>
>> Kyoto, Jan 2016
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>> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2

2016-05-30 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thanks. I guess it might, both Japanese formal gardens and bonsai have
a highly manicured nature look.

On 26 May 2016 at 13:13, Mark Stringer  wrote:
> Has a bonsai feel to it.  I love bonsai. Very good photo.  Great
> composition.
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> One more from the Golden Pavilion
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> https://flic.kr/p/E16tZA
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> Kyoto, Jan 2016
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Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele
The third one for me, as well  - don't think it needs cropping ... what 
a great expression! she's adorable


ann


On 5/30/2016 4:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I like the third pic in the top row, but I would crop out about 25 percent of 
the left side of frame.

Paul via phone


On May 30, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Hi All:

I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
All comments and critique are welcome.
(Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)

I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for others:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/

Thank you in advance,

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Re: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2

2016-05-30 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thank you for the kind words Jack.

On 26 May 2016 at 13:11, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Absolutely ideal composition and a beautiful image!
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eric Featherstone" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 4:29:18 AM
> Subject: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2
>
> One more from the Golden Pavilion
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/E16tZA
> or
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18237407
>
> Kyoto, Jan 2016
>
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Re: PESO - Golden Pavilion 2

2016-05-30 Thread Eric Featherstone
Thanks Christine.

Good luck to your nephew, that's a long road!

On 26 May 2016 at 12:51, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> That’s a very pleasant subject, Eric.  I have a nephew in an ernest effort 
> teaching himself written Japanese.  I was impressed when he showed me his 
> notes and worksheets.
>
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>> On May 26, 2016, at 6:29 AM, Eric Featherstone  
>> wrote:
>>
>> One more from the Golden Pavilion
>>
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/E16tZA
>> or
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18237407
>>
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele

Then I'll have to come too!  ... :-)

ann, the 4th muskateer


On 5/30/2016 1:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


Have a safe trip. If i do retire after this school year, right now its
at 99.99% i just may make it next year

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Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread Jack Davis
I meant 31906!!!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> My choice is 31902 and agree with
> Paul. Suggest you crop the left side
> in an amount to match the right.
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 30, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I like the third pic in the top row, but I would crop out about 25 percent 
>> of the left side of frame.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All:
>>> 
>>> I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
>>> So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
>>> All comments and critique are welcome.
>>> (Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)
>>> 
>>> I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for 
>>> others:
>>> http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
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Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread Jack Davis
My choice is 31902 and agree with
Paul. Suggest you crop the left side
in an amount to match the right.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I like the third pic in the top row, but I would crop out about 25 percent of 
> the left side of frame.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On May 30, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
>> So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
>> All comments and critique are welcome.
>> (Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)
>> 
>> I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for 
>> others:
>> http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/
>> 
>> Thank you in advance,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Bob W-PDML
If Douglas Adams is to be believed, a trowel is about the most massively useful 
thing you should take. On the other hand, if you're more of a Lennon man, all 
you need is gloves.

Apart from that really, just a healthy supply of edible underwear and a set of 
cleft sheathes in which to house your sticks.

B

> On 30 May 2016, at 21:13, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> I seem to have misplaced my packing list. Where's Walkden?
> 
>> On 5/30/16 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Traditional pre-GFM posting: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58
>> 
>> I'll be departing Boston for North Carolina tomorrow morning, making
>> my way south for the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend.
>> I'll stop in Harrisburg, PA for Tuesday night and quaff a pint or
>> three with former PDML'er Scott loveless. Then I'll spend Wednesday
>> with an old college buddy in Durham, NC before the final 3 hour drive
>> to the mountain on Thursday.
>> 
>> For now, I must get back to packing. I have to make sure I have
>> Cotty's phone number on hand and a good supply of cleft sticks for the
>> trip. (http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg341712.html)
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Doug Brewer

I seem to have misplaced my packing list. Where's Walkden?

On 5/30/16 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Traditional pre-GFM posting: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58

I'll be departing Boston for North Carolina tomorrow morning, making
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I'll stop in Harrisburg, PA for Tuesday night and quaff a pint or
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to the mountain on Thursday.

For now, I must get back to packing. I have to make sure I have
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trip. (http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg341712.html)




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Re: PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the third pic in the top row, but I would crop out about 25 percent of 
the left side of frame.

Paul via phone

> On May 30, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All:
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> I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
> So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
> All comments and critique are welcome.
> (Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to them.)
> 
> I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for others:
> http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Igor
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PESO - Daddy's Flower

2016-05-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Hi All:

I am trying to choose from a series of shots and renderings:
So, I'd appreciate your suggestions.
All comments and critique are welcome.
(Since the file names are repeated, - just use 1-7 when referring to 
them.)


I have some preferences, but I'd like to see how these photos work for 
others:

http://42graphy.org/misc/2016-03-20-DadsFlower-choose/

Thank you in advance,

Igor



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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread mike wilson
> On 30 May 2016 at 18:59 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> >Have a safe trip. If i do retire after this school year, right now its
> >at 99.99% i just may make it next year
> 
> Be sure to bring Frank with you :)

Not seen Frank here for a while.

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Re: PESO: Mykonos Bar Menu

2016-05-30 Thread mike wilson
> On 30 May 2016 at 17:25 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18239841
> >Comments are invited.
> 
> Here's a slice of life from Monterosso in Italy:
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/italy1/7dd02402.html

Sad to say, all of the above were created specifically for British tourists.
 Who consume them with avarice and malice aforethought.

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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:

>Have a safe trip. If i do retire after this school year, right now its
>at 99.99% i just may make it next year

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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread John

I've stayed out of this until now because others have answered questions
about the CVT transmission better than I can.

BUT ... just from personal experience, any warranty on the "reman"
transmission will expire before the transmission fails again. A good
clean "used" transmission from a wreck will probably last that long as
well.

An alternative not yet mentioned - if you have the mechanical skills -
get a $500 beater as temporary transportation, buy the Haynes manual and
rebuild the transmission yourself.

At least then you'd know the quality of the work that went into it.

On 5/29/2016 6:36 PM, Mark C wrote:

Just so I understand - you're saying get a used CVT, have someone go
into it and look for common faults and repair as needed before
installing. Right?

Interesting option - I might raise that with the shop that would install
a used unit. My thought now, though, would be to try to narrow the gap
between a used and a factory reman and the used CVT. The concerns that I
have with the approach you are suggesting would be that it would add to
the cost of a used unit and also could create warranty issues. Who would
offer a warranty on the CVT - the original parts seller or the person
who checks and repairs it? But this approach does address the worries
I'd have with a used unit.

On 5/29/2016 3:45 PM, mike wilson wrote:


Depends what you are going to do afterwards.  From a quick readaround,
it seems
Subara has dropped the ball with its CVT and faults are pretty much
guaranteed.
  Mostly, they are minor but require major surgery for rectification.
A cheap
replacement allows you to go inside and check, fix or pre-emptively
deal with
those and you can then install and wave bye-bye.  Which is what I
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Re: Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
Have a safe trip. If i do retire after this school year, right now its
at 99.99% i just may make it next year

Dave

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Traditional pre-GFM posting: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58
>
> I'll be departing Boston for North Carolina tomorrow morning, making
> my way south for the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend.
> I'll stop in Harrisburg, PA for Tuesday night and quaff a pint or
> three with former PDML'er Scott loveless. Then I'll spend Wednesday
> with an old college buddy in Durham, NC before the final 3 hour drive
> to the mountain on Thursday.
>
> For now, I must get back to packing. I have to make sure I have
> Cotty's phone number on hand and a good supply of cleft sticks for the
> trip. (http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg341712.html)
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Packing for GFM

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Traditional pre-GFM posting: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58

I'll be departing Boston for North Carolina tomorrow morning, making
my way south for the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend.
I'll stop in Harrisburg, PA for Tuesday night and quaff a pint or
three with former PDML'er Scott loveless. Then I'll spend Wednesday
with an old college buddy in Durham, NC before the final 3 hour drive
to the mountain on Thursday.

For now, I must get back to packing. I have to make sure I have
Cotty's phone number on hand and a good supply of cleft sticks for the
trip. (http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg341712.html)
 
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Re: PESO: Mykonos Bar Menu

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Chris Mitchell
 wrote:
> Except I wonder what extra you get in a
> Fuck Me Up to make it 5 Euros rather than 4.

Anything you want.

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Re: PESO: Mykonos Bar Menu

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18239841
>Comments are invited.

Here's a slice of life from Monterosso in Italy:
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Re: PESO: Mykonos Bar Menu

2016-05-30 Thread Chris Mitchell
Not much you can say really. Except I wonder what extra you get in a
Fuck Me Up to make it 5 Euros rather than 4...

Chris

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PESO: Mykonos Bar Menu

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18239841
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: True Romance

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Ann.

Most of my Greek images are touristy shots of the ancient monuments
and ruins, but I am trying to cull out a few of the more interesting
images  to post here.  More will surely follow.

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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:43 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Dan, I'm loving your Greece vacation... especially the street stuff... at
> least what you are chosing to show us :-) . Good shots and good editing.
> Refreshing.
>
> ann
>
>
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 12:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> A street in Athens:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18239380&size=lg
>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
>> Comments, Criticisms and Suggestions are invited.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: True Romance

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Boris.  Athens is covered by graffiti, much of it quite rude,
in Greek and in English.  This building had both graffiti and posters,
some of them covered with graffiti.  In this image, my son is reading
a poster saying "I am giving up on capitalism; let's try communism
instead."  In a different part of the city, a monument bears the
graffiti "Angela, we still love you."  The park across from our Athens
hotel had political and personal graffiti, in Greek and English, all
over the statues of the heroes of the Greek struggle for independence.

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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Daniel, if you're into this kind of photography, I can highly
> recommend Tel Aviv.
>
> In fact, I even happen to know in a person a very nice (possibly
> American) lady who guides graffiti tours. You would see wondrous
> places :-).
>
> Boris
>
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> A street in Athens:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18239380&size=lg
>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
>> Comments, Criticisms and Suggestions are invited.
>>
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Re: PESO: Evzoni

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Donald, Ann and Marco.

It is a dramatic ceremony, and on Sundays and Holidays, they wear
these old, colorful uniforms instead of their modern ones, doubling
the power of the event.

A huge crowd shows up for the hourly changing of the guards, and
between the press of on-lookers and the movement of the participants,
it is an interesting and challenging task to get images that carry the
flavor of the ceremony, but it was great fun.

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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> Dramatic & colorful A keeper.
>
> On 5/28/16 6:15 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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>> Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 15:47:40 -0400
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>>
>> Evzon, or Presidential Guards, stand watch at the Greek Greek Tomb of
>> the Unknown Soldier in Athens:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18238684&size=lg
>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Zoom
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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread mike wilson
> On 30 May 2016 at 14:04 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Subaru makes their own CVT, 

That _is_ surprising - and would totally change the complexion of any
conversation you might have with the dealer.  No buck to pass and, with it being
a "from new" purchase, I would be playing hard ball for a new transmission.  As
Paul says, Subaru's sales pitch is based around reliability and it must have
taken quite a knock with the CVT.

Having seen no evidence that the gremlins have been sorted, I would still be
selling it as soon as it was fixed.

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Re: GESO: Stairwell Revisited

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Marks.

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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> My taste in abstracts runs towards those that are really abstract. In that
> regard I like Stairwell #1 of these the best. Raw and powerful geometry,
> great use of color and shadow.
>
> The problem with being that abstract is that viewers sometimes get hung up
> on guess what the subject matter is.  I think #1 is strong enough on just
> form and geometry to overcome that. Stairwell #8 would be my second choice
> ase an abstracted representation of a recognizable subject.
>
> Mark
>
> On 5/29/2016 1:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> For those who have commented on my previous gallery of 3 versions of
>> my Stairwell image, and especially for those who put forth
>> suggestions, Here is a sightly larger gallery featuring two of the
>> originals and a few reworkings of each.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1091418
>>
>> As usual, comments, criticisms and suggestions are invited and
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Paul. After you mentioned that I did some googling and found the 
same info in a Wikipedia article.  I plan on going with the reman. My 
local shop can't get a new unit at this time, so a reman would be the 
best option with them. I'm hopeful that Subaru will help out - we'll see 
next week.


Now I gotta find a towing company to haul it back here...

Mark

On 5/30/2016 9:04 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Subaru makes their own CVT, a rarity these days, so I misspoke in that regard. 
JATCO makes the Nissan transmission, and it’s also used by Chrysler, GM 
Mitsubishi and Suzuki, but  not Subaru. That’s somewhat irrelevant, but I 
wanted to clarify. I would still go the dealer route and see if you can get 
Subaru to help you out on this. I expect you’ll get at least some cooperation.

If you do decide to go with a used trans, know that good independent 
transmission shops are a rarity. Do your homework and check references.

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Re: PESO: Evzoni

2016-05-30 Thread Marco Alpert
Ditto, ditto. 

m

> On May 30, 2016, at 7:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Ditto
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 5/30/2016 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote:
>> Dramatic & colorful A keeper.
>> 
>>> On 5/28/16 6:15 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 15:47:40 -0400
>>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: PESO: Evzoni
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>> 
>>> Evzon, or Presidential Guards, stand watch at the Greek Greek Tomb of
>>> the Unknown Soldier in Athens:
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18238684&size=lg
>>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Zoom
>>> Comments, criticisms and suggestions are all welcome and ppreciated.
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> 
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Re: GESO: Stairwell Revisited

2016-05-30 Thread Mark C
My taste in abstracts runs towards those that are really abstract. In 
that regard I like Stairwell #1 of these the best. Raw and powerful 
geometry, great use of color and shadow.


The problem with being that abstract is that viewers sometimes get hung 
up on guess what the subject matter is.  I think #1 is strong enough on 
just form and geometry to overcome that. Stairwell #8 would be my second 
choice ase an abstracted representation of a recognizable subject.


Mark

On 5/29/2016 1:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

For those who have commented on my previous gallery of 3 versions of
my Stairwell image, and especially for those who put forth
suggestions, Here is a sightly larger gallery featuring two of the
originals and a few reworkings of each.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1091418

As usual, comments, criticisms and suggestions are invited and appreciated.

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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Roberts
When it comes to stuff involving cars I'd just do whatever Paul
Stenquist says.
 
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Re: PESO: Evzoni

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele

Ditto

ann


On 5/30/2016 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote:

Dramatic & colorful A keeper.

On 5/28/16 6:15 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Evzon, or Presidential Guards, stand watch at the Greek Greek Tomb of
the Unknown Soldier in Athens:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18238684&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Zoom
Comments, criticisms and suggestions are all welcome and ppreciated.

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Re: GESO: Stairwell Revisited

2016-05-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree, Ann, but when I posted the original 3 image gallery, someone
suggested lightening the left side of one of the images, and someone
else suggested trying B&W.  I tried both of these techniques, and
tried to clean up the two best image, which were Stairwell 1 and
Stairwell 3.  Those images retain the same titles in this larger
gallery.

I still like #1 and #3, which show an upwards view and a downwards
view, respectively.

I would like you to compare # 1 and #4, which are the same image, with
the latter having the left side lightened a bit, as was suggested by
Jack Davis.

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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:46 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I think you are overthinking this... 1 and 3 of the original set were jsut
> fine as is... I don't see any reason to clean up the stairs in what used to
> be #1
>
> Getting confused with the numbers I do like the slightly lighter abstract
> one but don't remember if that was how you had it originally...
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 5/29/2016 1:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> For those who have commented on my previous gallery of 3 versions of
>> my Stairwell image, and especially for those who put forth
>> suggestions, Here is a sightly larger gallery featuring two of the
>> originals and a few reworkings of each.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1091418
>>
>> As usual, comments, criticisms and suggestions are invited and
>> appreciated.
>>
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>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread Mark C
Good summary... I don't see pursuing litigation. The car is out of 
warranty and I had ample opportunities to buy an extended warranty (they 
kind of pester you to do that). I made the decision not to get the 
extended warranty and in this case it was a bad call. I've made worse 
decisions. My first contact with Subaru was positive and I generally 
have a high regard for the company and have good experiences with the 
dealership, so I'm hopeful that we can work out some relief.  But if 
not, that's the breaks.


My main concern was whether the reman transmission was worth the extra 
cost vs a used unit. I'm coming down on the side of a reman. A used unit 
would be pulled out of a wreck so who knows what it might have been 
exposed to. I could have someone check it over but ultimately, I think 
of a reman as a  used unit that has been thoroughly scrubbed and 
(probably) has the best warranty.


I'm wondering though how I'll feel about the car when it gets back. If 
I'm not comfortable jumping in and taking a long trip then I will likely 
sell it off. I'll see how I feel after I have the car back and have 
driven it a few months.


Mark


On 5/30/2016 1:57 AM, Alan C wrote:
Mark, you have provoked a most interesting thread. A minefield of 
opinions! In the end it comes down to two things: (a) getting the car 
on the road again ASAP & (b) economics. The litigation route could 
take months. If you are to keep the car, an exchange unit (recon) with 
guarantee seems the best option. It is equivalent to having the 
existing gearbox repaired. To me a new box is just not on. If you are 
going to get rid of the car, find a S/H box, hopefully from a reliable 
scrapyard.


Best

Alan C



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Re:PESO: Evzoni

2016-05-30 Thread Donald Guthrie

Dramatic & colorful A keeper.

On 5/28/16 6:15 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Evzon, or Presidential Guards, stand watch at the Greek Greek Tomb of
the Unknown Soldier in Athens:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18238684&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 Zoom
Comments, criticisms and suggestions are all welcome and ppreciated.

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Re: PESO 2016 - 096, 097 - GDG

2016-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Tires were swapped on Friday. The new Goodyears feel much like the Contis did 
before them: same nice ride, same nice quiet, they stick well in corners and on 
braking, etc. The little whine at certain road speeds I was hearing with the 
worn-out Contis is gone. 

I am happy. I even took a camera out to celebrate. ]:-)

G


> On May 24, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Enjoy the ride Godfrey!


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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Subaru makes their own CVT, a rarity these days, so I misspoke in that regard. 
JATCO makes the Nissan transmission, and it’s also used by Chrysler, GM 
Mitsubishi and Suzuki, but  not Subaru. That’s somewhat irrelevant, but I 
wanted to clarify. I would still go the dealer route and see if you can get 
Subaru to help you out on this. I expect you’ll get at least some cooperation. 

If you do decide to go with a used trans, know that good independent 
transmission shops are a rarity. Do your homework and check references.

Paul
> On May 30, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> This is not an old car, and Subaru's entire U.S. Marketing campaign is based 
> on longevity and reliability. They are likely to help you out on this. Don't 
> buy a used problem. Go to the dealer who sold you the car and work on him. 
> Don't throw money away on a used CVT.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
> On May 30, 2016, at 4:17 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
>>> On 29 May 2016 at 23:36 Mark C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just so I understand - you're saying get a used CVT, have someone go 
>>> into it and look for common faults and repair as needed before 
>>> installing. Right?
>> 
>> Precisely.  But I would take it to a transmission specialist for the 
>> checkover.
>> I recently helped a work colleague with a Volvo tiptronic style gearbox.  It
>> had been "serviced" before sale but developed a fault once out of warranty.
>> After mucho searching it became clear that a seal had been displaced and
>> probably gamaged during the servicing.  Fixing it was not too difficult (took
>> longer for Volvo to send us the correct seals) but needed the box out and
>> dismantled.  It didn't need a clean room, just making sure it was 
>> scrupulously
>> clean before dismantling.  A transmission specialist would, hopefully, 
>> obviate
>> this scenario.  At the very, very least I would empty the oil and ferret 
>> around
>> in the drainings with a magnet.  Flush, change the filter - there are two but
>> one requires major dismantling if you look on youtube - there doesn't seem 
>> to be
>> much else to do.  I've seen no mention of the clutches needing replacement,
>> unlike the ones in the wet clutch versions of the Gertrag tiptronic.
>> 
>> Most of the problems I've seen online with the Subaru CVT seem to be linked 
>> to
>> the oiling system.  Either the drive to the standard oil pump fails or the
>> electric auxiliary one for stopstart vehicles causes bother.  It might be 
>> worth
>> checking what failed on yours in case an external factor, which will repeat
>> itself, is at the root.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Interesting option - I might raise that with the shop that would install 
>>> a used unit. My thought now, though, would be to try to narrow the gap 
>>> between a used and a factory reman and the used CVT. The concerns that I 
>>> have with the approach you are suggesting would be that it would add to 
>>> the cost of a used unit and also could create warranty issues. Who would 
>>> offer a warranty on the CVT - the original parts seller or the person 
>>> who checks and repairs it? But this approach does address the worries 
>>> I'd have with a used unit.
>>> 
 On 5/29/2016 3:45 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 
 Depends what you are going to do afterwards.  From a quick readaround, it
 seems
 Subara has dropped the ball with its CVT and faults are pretty much
 guaranteed.
 Mostly, they are minor but require major surgery for rectification.  A
 cheap
 replacement allows you to go inside and check, fix or pre-emptively deal
 with
 those and you can then install and wave bye-bye.  Which is what I would be
 doing.
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Re: GESO: Stairwell Revisited

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele
I think you are overthinking this... 1 and 3 of the original set were 
jsut fine as is... I don't see any reason to clean up the stairs in what 
used to be #1


Getting confused with the numbers I do like the slightly lighter 
abstract one but don't remember if that was how you had it originally...


ann


On 5/29/2016 1:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

For those who have commented on my previous gallery of 3 versions of
my Stairwell image, and especially for those who put forth
suggestions, Here is a sightly larger gallery featuring two of the
originals and a few reworkings of each.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1091418

As usual, comments, criticisms and suggestions are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: True Romance

2016-05-30 Thread ann sanfedele
Dan, I'm loving your Greece vacation... especially the street stuff... 
at least what you are chosing to show us :-) . Good shots and good 
editing. Refreshing.


ann



On 5/30/2016 12:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

A street in Athens:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18239380&size=lg
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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
This is not an old car, and Subaru's entire U.S. Marketing campaign is based on 
longevity and reliability. They are likely to help you out on this. Don't buy a 
used problem. Go to the dealer who sold you the car and work on him. Don't 
throw money away on a used CVT.

Paul via phone

On May 30, 2016, at 4:17 AM, mike wilson  wrote:

>> On 29 May 2016 at 23:36 Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just so I understand - you're saying get a used CVT, have someone go 
>> into it and look for common faults and repair as needed before 
>> installing. Right?
> 
> Precisely.  But I would take it to a transmission specialist for the 
> checkover.
> I recently helped a work colleague with a Volvo tiptronic style gearbox.  It
> had been "serviced" before sale but developed a fault once out of warranty.
> After mucho searching it became clear that a seal had been displaced and
> probably gamaged during the servicing.  Fixing it was not too difficult (took
> longer for Volvo to send us the correct seals) but needed the box out and
> dismantled.  It didn't need a clean room, just making sure it was scrupulously
> clean before dismantling.  A transmission specialist would, hopefully, obviate
> this scenario.  At the very, very least I would empty the oil and ferret 
> around
> in the drainings with a magnet.  Flush, change the filter - there are two but
> one requires major dismantling if you look on youtube - there doesn't seem to 
> be
> much else to do.  I've seen no mention of the clutches needing replacement,
> unlike the ones in the wet clutch versions of the Gertrag tiptronic.
> 
> Most of the problems I've seen online with the Subaru CVT seem to be linked to
> the oiling system.  Either the drive to the standard oil pump fails or the
> electric auxiliary one for stopstart vehicles causes bother.  It might be 
> worth
> checking what failed on yours in case an external factor, which will repeat
> itself, is at the root.
> 
>> 
>> Interesting option - I might raise that with the shop that would install 
>> a used unit. My thought now, though, would be to try to narrow the gap 
>> between a used and a factory reman and the used CVT. The concerns that I 
>> have with the approach you are suggesting would be that it would add to 
>> the cost of a used unit and also could create warranty issues. Who would 
>> offer a warranty on the CVT - the original parts seller or the person 
>> who checks and repairs it? But this approach does address the worries 
>> I'd have with a used unit.
>> 
>>> On 5/29/2016 3:45 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Depends what you are going to do afterwards.  From a quick readaround, it
>>> seems
>>> Subara has dropped the ball with its CVT and faults are pretty much
>>> guaranteed.
>>>  Mostly, they are minor but require major surgery for rectification.  A
>>> cheap
>>> replacement allows you to go inside and check, fix or pre-emptively deal
>>> with
>>> those and you can then install and wave bye-bye.  Which is what I would be
>>> doing.
>> 
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Re: OT - Transmission Replacement - Re manufactured vs Used

2016-05-30 Thread mike wilson
> On 29 May 2016 at 23:36 Mark C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just so I understand - you're saying get a used CVT, have someone go 
> into it and look for common faults and repair as needed before 
> installing. Right?

Precisely.  But I would take it to a transmission specialist for the checkover.
 I recently helped a work colleague with a Volvo tiptronic style gearbox.  It
had been "serviced" before sale but developed a fault once out of warranty.
 After mucho searching it became clear that a seal had been displaced and
probably gamaged during the servicing.  Fixing it was not too difficult (took
longer for Volvo to send us the correct seals) but needed the box out and
dismantled.  It didn't need a clean room, just making sure it was scrupulously
clean before dismantling.  A transmission specialist would, hopefully, obviate
this scenario.  At the very, very least I would empty the oil and ferret around
in the drainings with a magnet.  Flush, change the filter - there are two but
one requires major dismantling if you look on youtube - there doesn't seem to be
much else to do.  I've seen no mention of the clutches needing replacement,
unlike the ones in the wet clutch versions of the Gertrag tiptronic.

Most of the problems I've seen online with the Subaru CVT seem to be linked to
the oiling system.  Either the drive to the standard oil pump fails or the
electric auxiliary one for stopstart vehicles causes bother.  It might be worth
checking what failed on yours in case an external factor, which will repeat
itself, is at the root.

> 
> Interesting option - I might raise that with the shop that would install 
> a used unit. My thought now, though, would be to try to narrow the gap 
> between a used and a factory reman and the used CVT. The concerns that I 
> have with the approach you are suggesting would be that it would add to 
> the cost of a used unit and also could create warranty issues. Who would 
> offer a warranty on the CVT - the original parts seller or the person 
> who checks and repairs it? But this approach does address the worries 
> I'd have with a used unit.
> 
> On 5/29/2016 3:45 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> >
> > Depends what you are going to do afterwards.  From a quick readaround, it
> > seems
> > Subara has dropped the ball with its CVT and faults are pretty much
> > guaranteed.
> >   Mostly, they are minor but require major surgery for rectification.  A
> > cheap
> > replacement allows you to go inside and check, fix or pre-emptively deal
> > with
> > those and you can then install and wave bye-bye.  Which is what I would be
> > doing.
> >
> 
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