Not that anyone cares but Adorama confirms the K-70 by offering it for pre order.

2016-06-08 Thread P.J. Alling 

It's no K-1 but it seems that Ricoh isn't abandoning APS-C.

I really wish they'd decide on a naming convention and stick to it.

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PESO: Renting a Bike

2016-06-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
A customer renting a bike at the Capital location near Union Station,
in Washington, DC
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244517
Comments, Suggestions and Criticisms are invited.

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PESO: Urban Repast

2016-06-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Street scene, Washington, DC, near Union Station:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244528=md
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Re: June PUG is Up!

2016-06-08 Thread Brian Walters 


On Wed, Jun 8, 2016, at 12:37 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Darren, I think you are right that Pat's  is the strongest photo, but it 
> really gives me the creeps ... as, no doubt, it was meant to do.
> 
> I wanted to do the hands of a clock but didn't like my photos that I 
> already had... I'm glad Jack and Ken did them.  But no one
> 
> did mariners (all hands on deck!) ... and that surprised me...
> 
> and of coruse thanks Brian for continuing to do this labor of , I hope, 
> love :-)


Not exactly 'love' but it sure beats mowing the lawn...


Cheers

Brian



> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 6/6/2016 7:05 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> > Terrific gallery!
> > For me, the "hands down" winner was Pat Temmerman's "Antwerp Hands" but I
> > also really like Christine's "Hands and Worms" and Henk Terhell's "Busy
> > Hands - Two Generations".
> >
> > Nice work all!
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Brian Walters 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> G'day
> >>
> >> Another well-supported gallery with some diverse interpretations of the
> >> theme - from the literal to the baffling..
> >>
> >> Also - our first submissions with a K-1 - one as the picture taker and
> >> another as the subject (Cotty - take note).
> >>
> >> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/
> >>
> >> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> >> there).
> >>
> >> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> >> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> >> gallery, let me know.
> >>
> >> +
> >>
> >> Next Up: "History".  Ann is already quickly out of the blocks on this
> >> one!
> >>
> >> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >>
> >> You can submit here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> ++
> >> Brian Walters
> >> Western Sydney Australia
> >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: Cat Photo

2016-06-08 Thread Brian Walters 
Nice looking feline, not unlike our 'Blackjack':

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP3193peso.html

Black cats rule!!


Cheers

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On Thu, Jun 9, 2016, at 10:10 AM, John wrote:
> I managed to take photos of Baxter. She won't sit still anywhere but in
> my lap, so she's kind of hard to photograph.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/27451840062/
> 
> I'm working on my laptop, trying to get it set up with Photoshop CS5 &
> Nik filters. The laptop just doesn't have the power to run CS6 & I don't
> want CC.
> 
> Anyway, just fiddled with the photo to check out whether the Nik filters
> worked after I installed them. I figure a cat photo is as good as
> anything else for a test.
> 
> The photo has Analog Effects to make it look like old film; a channel
> mixer red-blue swap to give it a faux IR look and then a high detail
> Silver Efex Pro filter applied. I saw a presentation Monday where the
> presenter suggested IR photos made a good basis for B conversions, so
> I figured I'd play with it.
> 
> I'm going ahead applying all the Windoze Update files to Windoze 7 to
> get it ready to attempt Windoze 10.
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Re: Two Questions - more or less More IR

2016-06-08 Thread Larry Colen 



Mark Stringer wrote:


the old B film days.  Both have instant surrealism which I think is harder
to achieve with color.  These days any digital image can be made surreal but
all of the mundane subjects I am tired of are new again in IR.

Stringer (aka "no mas Mark")

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Subject: Two Questions - more or less

1. Is anyone using Windoze 10 yet?

If so, how do you like it&  is it any good for running PhotoshopCS6
Extended? I don't use Lightroom or CC.

2. If you had to choose among an *ist-D, a K10D or a K20D to convert for IR,
which would you sacrifice? Who would you choose to do the conversion?


I think that if my goal were IR, and I had a K20, I'd sell it and buy a 
K-r (even a K-x) or just about anything newer.  I loved the UI on my 
K20, but once I bought a K-x I hardly ever used my K20 outside "the 
studio", unless it was raining out.  The images from the K-x were that 
much better.  The K-r is a K-x with every shortcoming improved. I'll be 
putting my K-5ii up for sale in the next few days, and I'll probably be 
lucky to get $300 for it. At that, in many ways, it'll outperform just 
about every other Pentax short of a K-1.  The difference in performance 
between a K-5 and a K20 is hard to believe.


If you're shooting with a K-100, you can just about get away with IR 
without doing a conversion, just putting an IR pass filter on it because 
the IR block filter on it is so weak.


When I was getting my first K-5 repaired, I had them convert it to full 
spectrum IR.  It was lots of fun, unfortunately, the camera died shortly 
thereafter for other reasons.  You can do lots of fun things with a full 
spectrum camera and an IR flash.


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RE: Two Questions - more or less More IR

2016-06-08 Thread Mark Stringer 
Live view on the k20d is basic and shuts off after 3 minutes. I would read
up on the live view mode before choosing the k20d.  I have a micro 4/3/s Oly
E-PL5 and a Lumix GX8.  These mirrorless cameras make IR easy.  I have a
k20d and a Kx.  Seems the Kx would be the better choice but I don't need
another IR camera but I want to use my Pentax lens.   I had the Gx8
converted because I wanted a brighter LCD and it has a bright electronic
viewfinder also.  I have a new K3II and some very fine lens but have spent
most of my time doing IR and learning to use GIMP.  I love IR like I loved
the old B film days.  Both have instant surrealism which I think is harder
to achieve with color.  These days any digital image can be made surreal but
all of the mundane subjects I am tired of are new again in IR.

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Subject: Two Questions - more or less

1. Is anyone using Windoze 10 yet?

If so, how do you like it & is it any good for running PhotoshopCS6
Extended? I don't use Lightroom or CC.

2. If you had to choose among an *ist-D, a K10D or a K20D to convert for IR,
which would you sacrifice? Who would you choose to do the conversion?


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Cat Photo

2016-06-08 Thread John 

I managed to take photos of Baxter. She won't sit still anywhere but in
my lap, so she's kind of hard to photograph.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/27451840062/

I'm working on my laptop, trying to get it set up with Photoshop CS5 &
Nik filters. The laptop just doesn't have the power to run CS6 & I don't
want CC.

Anyway, just fiddled with the photo to check out whether the Nik filters
worked after I installed them. I figure a cat photo is as good as
anything else for a test.

The photo has Analog Effects to make it look like old film; a channel
mixer red-blue swap to give it a faux IR look and then a high detail
Silver Efex Pro filter applied. I saw a presentation Monday where the
presenter suggested IR photos made a good basis for B conversions, so
I figured I'd play with it.

I'm going ahead applying all the Windoze Update files to Windoze 7 to
get it ready to attempt Windoze 10.


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Re: K-1 noise reduction

2016-06-08 Thread Paul Stenquist 
Dunno. I just set it to "auto" and have no noise problems. Ignorance is bliss.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:23 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> On page 50 of the K-1 manual (the pdf anyways) there is a menu for setting 
> noise reduction at various ISO sensitivities.  Is that in the raw file, or 
> just the JPEG?
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K-1 noise reduction

2016-06-08 Thread Larry Colen 
On page 50 of the K-1 manual (the pdf anyways) there is a menu for 
setting noise reduction at various ISO sensitivities.  Is that in the 
raw file, or just the JPEG?


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Re: PESOs: Swagger

2016-06-08 Thread Mark Stringer 

Gotta have swag.  Looks like he is doing it right!

On 6/7/2016 4:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

This 8 year old has what ballplayers call swagger. He asks for time out with 
the moves of a major league ballplayer, never mind that there is no 
player-called time out in little league:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244052=lg

Then he eyeballs the pitcher (who is an adult coach) and works  his bat:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244053=lg

And when the pitch arrives, he looks it right into his bat and crushes it. Some 
kids are born with it.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244079=lg









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Re: PESO: Wideout

2016-06-08 Thread Mark Stringer 

She looks very focused.  Good pic!
Stringer

On 6/7/2016 3:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

This attractive young lady was running wide receiver patterns at the park, and 
a man was completing 30 and 40 yard passes to her. I didn’t take many shots, 
because I was there to shoot little league baseball, but she was good. She went 
up for the ball a couple times and must have been more than two feet off the 
ground. Wearing receiver gloves too I see. Soft hands, meaning she doesn’t bat 
the ball away but hangs onto it. Probably plays for a women’s flag football 
team, although I’d like to think she’s trying out for her high school’s tackle 
football team. Women playing full contact football has become more common  
around here. K-1 with the DFA 15o/450 at f5.6, ISO 3200, 1/2500, 450 mm off a 
monopod. Cropped to about 50% of frame.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18244137=lg



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Re: Some more steller photos

2016-06-08 Thread Larry Colen 



Alan C wrote:

Fantastic stuff, Larry. You should get plenty faves from that galley.


Thanks. I've got a fairly clear view of the nest from my living room 
window. It pushes the sensor pretty hard shooting at 500mm f/6.7 and 
then cropping in tight. I finally realized that I can use a bit of fill 
flash and that makes a big difference.  I was amused when I realized 
that they had finally gotten the pop-up flash right on the K-3, with 
manual control over it. Then, promptly with the next model removed the 
pop-up flash.




Alan C


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Subject: Some more steller photos

A bit more cutitude. They grow up so fast. Hitting their rebellious
punk phase and starting to sport mohawks.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669056124991



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread Ken Waller 

It takes a long time to become that natural smelling.


I could get there after around 18-24 miles backpacking on warm days - Just 
ask my wife !


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W-PDML" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.



On 8 Jun 2016, at 19:04, Ken Waller  wrote:


The whole idea here is to not present a unique odor for the bear to come 
and check out.


So the less you smell 'civilized' the less chance you'll become their 
next meal.


It takes a long time to become that natural smelling. Snipers and ghillies 
and such-like apparently spend days in the wild getting smelly enough not 
to leave a human scent that dogs can follow or animals can recognise as 
human.




A big issue with bears is not to suprise them. Several of the maulings 
I'm aware of were due to humans getting

between the mom and her cubs or




those that came upon a bear and surprised it.


That would certainly do it.

B



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- Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin" 


Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.


In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the 
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined 
where bears have been recently spotted according to the best information 
the pilot has acquired. The information sheet includes the following 
list of items that we should not bring:


• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed

• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?

On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila 
 wrote:

Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time


It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Some more steller photos

2016-06-08 Thread Alan C 

Fantastic stuff, Larry. You should get plenty faves from that galley.

Alan C


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 8:45 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Some more steller photos

A bit more cutitude.  They grow up so fast.  Hitting their rebellious
punk phase and starting to sport mohawks.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669056124991

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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread Bob W-PDML 
On 8 Jun 2016, at 15:09, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Most of my Alaskan trips were scheduled for late August/early September to 
> take advantage of the fact that for the most part, the annoying bugs - black 
> flies, Mosquitos etc are long gone. I've run into snowstorms in late August 
> in Alaska.
> 
> I've always carried bells on my pack when I've been in bear country - I've 
> never seen bells in bear scat !

That's because they get stuck in the bears' teeth and they pick them out with 
your bones.

B
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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread Bob W-PDML 
On 8 Jun 2016, at 19:04, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> The whole idea here is to not present a unique odor for the bear to come and 
> check out.
> 
> So the less you smell 'civilized' the less chance you'll become their next 
> meal.

It takes a long time to become that natural smelling. Snipers and ghillies and 
such-like apparently spend days in the wild getting smelly enough not to leave 
a human scent that dogs can follow or animals can recognise as human.

> 
> A big issue with bears is not to suprise them. Several of the maulings I'm 
> aware of were due to humans getting
> between the mom and her cubs or


> those that came upon a bear and surprised it.

That would certainly do it.

B
> 
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin" 
> 
> Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.
> 
> 
>> In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
>> of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
>> bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot 
>> has acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items 
>> that we should not bring:
>> 
>> • Seafood in your lunches
>> • Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly washed
>> • Glass containers
>> • Aerosol sprays
>> • Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
>> • Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)
>> 
>> They don’t mention after-shave.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
>>> 
> On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila  
> wrote:
> Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time
 
 It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
 before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
 they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
 proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
 things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
 them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
 in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
 -- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.
> 
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Some more steller photos

2016-06-08 Thread Larry Colen 
A bit more cutitude.  They grow up so fast.  Hitting their rebellious 
punk phase and starting to sport mohawks.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669056124991

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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread Ken Waller 
The whole idea here is to not present a unique odor for the bear to come and 
check out.


So the less you smell 'civilized' the less chance you'll become their next 
meal.


A big issue with bears is not to suprise them. Several of the maulings I'm 
aware of were due to humans getting
between the mom and her cubs or those that came upon a bear and surprised 
it.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Stanley Halpin" 

Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.


In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the 
pilot has acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of 
items that we should not bring:


• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
washed

• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila 
 wrote:

Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time


It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread Alan C 

All that confusing advice is enough to drive any one bananas.

Also, don't use hormone skin cream or the mosquitoes may double in size!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: ann sanfedele

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:36 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

I think I read it in MIlepost or maybe John McPhee.. orfrom someone who
mentioned it when we were planning our trip..

Since I loathe bananas I felt pretty safe...  this was back in the 80's
so it wasn't from the web

but I heard it over and over whenwe were up there


ann


On 6/8/2016 8:06 AM, John wrote:

I never heard that one before.

A quick Google search is kind of inconclusive. There are sites that
claim eating bananas makes you tastier to mosquitoes and sites that
claim they make you less attractive and sites that claim it doesn't make
any difference.

Does the ban on aerosol sprays apply to the pump kind or just to the
kind in cans?

I have a good bug spray from REI that's eucalyptus based that works
really well. It doesn't smell like bananas or fish, but it's damn sure
effective against mosquitoes.

https://www.rei.com/product/828908/repel-lemon-eucalyptus-pump-spray-insect-repellent-4-fl-oz

On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go...
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread ann sanfedele 
I think I read it in MIlepost or maybe John McPhee.. orfrom someone who 
mentioned it when we were planning our trip..


Since I loathe bananas I felt pretty safe...  this was back in the 80's 
so it wasn't from the web


but I heard it over and over whenwe were up there


ann


On 6/8/2016 8:06 AM, John wrote:

I never heard that one before.

A quick Google search is kind of inconclusive. There are sites that
claim eating bananas makes you tastier to mosquitoes and sites that
claim they make you less attractive and sites that claim it doesn't make
any difference.

Does the ban on aerosol sprays apply to the pump kind or just to the
kind in cans?

I have a good bug spray from REI that's eucalyptus based that works
really well. It doesn't smell like bananas or fish, but it's damn sure
effective against mosquitoes.

https://www.rei.com/product/828908/repel-lemon-eucalyptus-pump-spray-insect-repellent-4-fl-oz 



On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go...
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any 
cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into 
close

proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread Ken Waller 
Most of my Alaskan trips were scheduled for late August/early September to take 
advantage of the fact that for the most part, the annoying bugs - black flies, 
Mosquitos etc are long gone. I've run into snowstorms in late August in Alaska.

I've always carried bells on my pack when I've been in bear country - I've 
never seen bells in bear scat !

-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Subject: Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.
>
>Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go... 
>although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they
>
>are nasty little guys
>
>
>ann
>
>On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the two 
>> of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be determined where 
>> bears have been recently spotted according to the best information the pilot 
>> has acquired. The information sheet includes the following list of items 
>> that we should not bring:
>>
>>  • Seafood in your lunches
>>  • Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless thoroughly 
>> washed
>>  • Glass containers
>>  • Aerosol sprays
>>  • Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
>>  • Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)
>>
>> They don’t mention after-shave.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>>
>>> So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?
>>>
 On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila  
> wrote:
> Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time
 It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
 before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
 they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
 proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
 things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
 them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
 in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
 -- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.


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Re: Home from Grandfather Mountain.

2016-06-08 Thread John 

I never heard that one before.

A quick Google search is kind of inconclusive. There are sites that
claim eating bananas makes you tastier to mosquitoes and sites that
claim they make you less attractive and sites that claim it doesn't make
any difference.

Does the ban on aerosol sprays apply to the pump kind or just to the
kind in cans?

I have a good bug spray from REI that's eucalyptus based that works
really well. It doesn't smell like bananas or fish, but it's damn sure
effective against mosquitoes.

https://www.rei.com/product/828908/repel-lemon-eucalyptus-pump-spray-insect-repellent-4-fl-oz 



On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Also... maybe stop eating Bananas for a couple of weeks before you go...
although the Mosquitos shouldn't be as annoying in sept as earlier they

are nasty little guys


ann

On 6/7/2016 10:13 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

In early September we will be in Alaska, have a one-day tour where the
two of us (and maybe 2 others) will be flown to an area to be
determined where bears have been recently spotted according to the
best information the pilot has acquired. The information sheet
includes the following list of items that we should not bring:

• Seafood in your lunches
• Backpacks or clothing from previous days fishing, unless
thoroughly washed
• Glass containers
• Aerosol sprays
• Bear spray or Pepper spray (unsafe on the aircraft)
• Firearms (not allowed on the aircraft)

They don’t mention after-shave.

stan


On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

So not a good idea to wear salmon-scented after-shave?


On 7 Jun 2016, at 19:20, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
Seeing a wild bear sounds cool and scary at the same time

It's NOT seeing a wild bear that is dangerous.  If you see the bear
before it sees you, and you stay out of its way and awy from any cubs,
they seldom bother you.  If, however, you unexpectedly come into close
proximity to a bear in the woods, or inadvertently approach a cub,
things can get very dicey indeed.  I got rather close to a number of
them in Alaska, but I kept my distance and they were more interested
in the salmon than me, so there was never any real danger.  The sight
-- or the smell -- can increase one's pulse rate a bit in any event.



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