Re: PESO: Shopping List

[P.J. Alling]

Hey, some of the best sushi I've had came from a supermarket.  Then 
again some of the worst sushi I've had came from a supermarket.  At 
least it didn't make me sick...


On 7/22/2016 11:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

"your shopping list now available just around the corner."
Walgreens is a major chain of drug stores in the US.
I found this sign next to the food court of the Union Station rail terminal
in Washingyon DC:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18260451
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom

Nothing spells fine dining like sushi from a drug store.

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PESO: Shopping List

[Daniel J. Matyola]

"your shopping list now available just around the corner."
Walgreens is a major chain of drug stores in the US.
I found this sign next to the food court of the Union Station rail terminal
in Washingyon DC:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18260451
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom

Nothing spells fine dining like sushi from a drug store.

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Re: PESO - Mildred the bear

[Ken Waller]

But zoo bears are generally sad looking.

-Original Message-
>From: "P.J. Alling" 
>Sent: Jul 22, 2016 8:10 PM
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>Subject: Re: PESO - Mildred the bear
>
>She looks very soulful but then bears always do, until they rip your arm 
>off.
>
>On 7/22/2016 4:37 PM, Gonz wrote:
>> My wife and I visited GFM during the Jul 4 week.  The weather was very
>> pleasant and a nice respite from the hot TX summer.  Got some snaps of
>> waterfalls, Mildred, scenic landscapes of wispy clouds flying around
>> the surrounding hills, etc.  Here's one of the bear at GFM:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27861274754/in/dateposted-public/
>>
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Re: PESO - Mildred the bear

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a fine portrait!


Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Gonz  wrote:

> My wife and I visited GFM during the Jul 4 week.  The weather was very
> pleasant and a nice respite from the hot TX summer.  Got some snaps of
> waterfalls, Mildred, scenic landscapes of wispy clouds flying around
> the surrounding hills, etc.  Here's one of the bear at GFM:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27861274754/in/dateposted-public/
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Re: first day review

[David J Brooks]

Ok, seems i may have been to quick's on the draw here. I usually open
my files in Preview to quickly look at them and see what i have, which
is what i did with my plowing match photos, and my Model A shots etc.
In Preview everything looked way under expose. Having just loaded the
file into LR ver 4.1 files look fine. Still a bit miffed on this.

Dave

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:21 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> What mode of metering were you using?
>> (center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?
>
> I use centre weigh excusivly with all lenses
>
>>
>> You probably know this, but just in case:
>> If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of
>> bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
>> From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty of
>> bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow
>> field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
>
> Shots into the sun yes, usually require +.7 or eve +1 but shots with
> sun t my back never required more than +0.3
>> And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but
>> even worse.
>
>
>>
>> The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the center
>> by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and that one
>> is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same effect.
>
> My main concern is that i used two lenses last week at the Model A
> shoot, same light some shooting but +0.3 siufficed with the 55-300 +2
> looks like the norm
>
> Dave
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
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Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

[Stanley Halpin]

Is there a non-Flash version anywhere?

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> OK, it's on line and ready to go. The first PDML Photo Calendar
> features 12 great photos, with no flower or cat photos and only one
> sunset(!) Thanks to everyone who voted for shots to be included. The
> only tough decision making was for photographers who had two of their
> photos voted in (predictably, Annsan, Mark Cassino and Jostein).
> 
> Here it is:
> http://www.lulu.com/shop/pdml/pdml-photo-calendar-2017/calendar/product-22793174.html
> 
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> www.robertstech.com
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Re: first day review

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> What mode of metering were you using?
> (center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

I use centre weigh excusivly with all lenses

>
> You probably know this, but just in case:
> If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of
> bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
> From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty of
> bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow
> field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).

Shots into the sun yes, usually require +.7 or eve +1 but shots with
sun t my back never required more than +0.3
> And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but
> even worse.


>
> The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the center
> by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and that one
> is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same effect.

My main concern is that i used two lenses last week at the Model A
shoot, same light some shooting but +0.3 siufficed with the 55-300 +2
looks like the norm

Dave
>
> HTH,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>>
>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>> every one in LR.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Dave
>
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Re: PESO - Mildred the bear

[P.J. Alling]

She looks very soulful but then bears always do, until they rip your arm 
off.


On 7/22/2016 4:37 PM, Gonz wrote:

My wife and I visited GFM during the Jul 4 week.  The weather was very
pleasant and a nice respite from the hot TX summer.  Got some snaps of
waterfalls, Mildred, scenic landscapes of wispy clouds flying around
the surrounding hills, etc.  Here's one of the bear at GFM:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27861274754/in/dateposted-public/




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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[Paul Stenquist]

Paul via phone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:54 PM, John  wrote:
> 
>> On 7/22/2016 5:23 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:09 PM, John  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*
>>> 
>>> It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
>>> Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
>>> Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!
>>> 
>>> God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
>>> fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.
>>> 
>>> What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
>>> that goddamn dancing paper clip.
>> 
>> I never did trust that paperclip - he was clearly up to no good.
>> 
>> stan
> 
> I downloaded Classic Shell, so I've got the Start Menu working again.
> "Classic Explorer" is supposed to fix Windoze Explorer, but so far no joy.
> 
> Everything still looks like Google Chrome (or maybe it's like the
> DOS-Shell from the days of Windoze 1.0) .
> 
What does Google Chrome look like? On my Mac it looks like a web browser.
Paul
> Anyway, it hurts my eyes & I'm already getting a headache.
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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[Bill]

On 7/22/2016 5:07 PM, Paul wrote:

Sorry to hear you're having some problems.  I upgraded both a desktop
and a laptop and had no discernible problems.  OTOH, maybe I just don't
give a damn and subconsciously adapt. :-)


It's impossible to update an OS and not run into the occasional glitch. 
Classic shell is designed to make Windows look like an older version. 
It's not compatible from one OS to the next, so it would be useless on 
the new OS without downloading it again anyway.


It's quite a rant over a very non existent problem.



-p


On 7/22/2016 3:09 PM, John wrote:

It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*

It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!

God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.

What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
that goddamn dancing paper clip.


On 7/21/2016 1:11 PM, John wrote:

Following the procrastinator's guide to Windoze 10 upgrade, I'm
currently creating an image backup of my system. I already have the USB
stick with the Windoze 10 installer on it.

If I'm not back within 3 days, notify the American Embassy.








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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[Paul]

Sorry to hear you're having some problems.  I upgraded both a desktop 
and a laptop and had no discernible problems.  OTOH, maybe I just don't 
give a damn and subconsciously adapt. :-)


-p


On 7/22/2016 3:09 PM, John wrote:

It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*

It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!

God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.

What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
that goddamn dancing paper clip.


On 7/21/2016 1:11 PM, John wrote:

Following the procrastinator's guide to Windoze 10 upgrade, I'm
currently creating an image backup of my system. I already have the USB
stick with the Windoze 10 installer on it.

If I'm not back within 3 days, notify the American Embassy.





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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[Bill]

On 7/22/2016 3:23 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:



On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:09 PM, John  wrote:

It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*

It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!

God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.

What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
that goddamn dancing paper clip.


I never did trust that paperclip - he was clearly up to no good.


I always thought he was a first world problem.



stan





On 7/21/2016 1:11 PM, John wrote:

Following the procrastinator's guide to Windoze 10 upgrade, I'm
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stick with the Windoze 10 installer on it.

If I'm not back within 3 days, notify the American Embassy.



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Re: first day review

[John]

K3 ii ... now I got it.

On 7/22/2016 5:43 PM, John wrote:

Do you mean it won't work on any Pentax prior to the K-3 or the K-1?
Because I haven't been able to find out anything about the K-311.

On 7/22/2016 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

FYI: I understand that the new electronically controlled aperture
version will not work
on any Pentax version prior to the K-311.
J
- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I see two different versions listed on the B&H site. One is new and
not yet available
from B&H. Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control
or "L" version.
Where did you buy it?
J


- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:33:01 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis 
wrote:
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks 
wrote:

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[John]

On 7/22/2016 5:23 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:



On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:09 PM, John  wrote:

It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*

It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!

God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.

What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
that goddamn dancing paper clip.


I never did trust that paperclip - he was clearly up to no good.

stan




I downloaded Classic Shell, so I've got the Start Menu working again.
"Classic Explorer" is supposed to fix Windoze Explorer, but so far no joy.

Everything still looks like Google Chrome (or maybe it's like the
DOS-Shell from the days of Windoze 1.0) .

Anyway, it hurts my eyes & I'm already getting a headache.


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Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70

[Jos from Holland]

Igor, I had exactly the same experience with that 17-70 on my K5.
Now for K1,I use often the Sigma 28-105/2.8-4 that I bought long ago for 
my Z-1.


I hope Sigma will make their 24-105 available for Pentax, and I am very 
curious how the IQ of that lens would be compared to Pentax 28-105 and 
the Pentax 24-70 . Price wise that SIGMA would be in between the two 
Pentaxes.


Greetz, Jos



Greetz, Jos

On 22-Jul-16 17:21, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I am not on the market for these lenses at the moment. But if I were, 
I'd be torn. My current "most universal" lens (i.e. the one that is 
attached by default) on K5-IIs is 17-70, which provides the FOV 
similar to the full-frame camera with 25-105.
 And I am using the wide end much more often than the long end of the 
range. But every so often, I enjoy that extra reach to 70 (105), even 
though the image quality is a bit lower there. If I have time, I am 
switching to 50-135 for the longer range, but for a quick grab, 17-70 
does a reasonable job @50-70mm.


So, ideally I'd want 24-105. :-)
But with what is available, if the price wasn't in the consideration,
I'd choose 24-70, primarily due to the wide end.
f/2.8 is an added bonus.

With the Pentax film camera, my first and "primary" lens was Tokina 
ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8, and I bought that for the speed and for the 
good IQ optimized for the price. I was missing on the wide end, and 
that's why I bought Tokina 18-35 (or was it 19-35?).


Igor



Gonz Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:20:17 -0700 wrote:

The reviews on B&H are very positive for both lenses, with lots of
praise for the 28-105's sharpness.



On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Gonz wrote:


Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them?  The 24-70 is
almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8
aperture, is the image quality that much better?



I'm curious too.  I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens.
Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've 
had dry
weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I 
need the

faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach.

I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 
28-75/2.8 you
can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less 
than the

24-70.






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Re: first day review

[John]

Do you mean it won't work on any Pentax prior to the K-3 or the K-1?
Because I haven't been able to find out anything about the K-311.

On 7/22/2016 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

FYI: I understand that the new electronically controlled aperture version will 
not work
on any Pentax version prior to the K-311.
J
- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I see two different versions listed on the B&H site. One is new and not yet 
available
from B&H. Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
version.
Where did you buy it?
J


- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:33:01 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Another GFM pic

[Gonz]

Small stream near one of the trails.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/28478677595/

See if anyone can spot something out of place in there...

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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:09 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*
> 
> It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
> Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
> Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!
> 
> God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
> fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.
> 
> What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
> that goddamn dancing paper clip.

I never did trust that paperclip - he was clearly up to no good.

stan


> 
> 
> On 7/21/2016 1:11 PM, John wrote:
>> Following the procrastinator's guide to Windoze 10 upgrade, I'm
>> currently creating an image backup of my system. I already have the USB
>> stick with the Windoze 10 installer on it.
>> 
>> If I'm not back within 3 days, notify the American Embassy.
>> 
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PESO - Mildred the bear

[Gonz]

My wife and I visited GFM during the Jul 4 week.  The weather was very
pleasant and a nice respite from the hot TX summer.  Got some snaps of
waterfalls, Mildred, scenic landscapes of wispy clouds flying around
the surrounding hills, etc.  Here's one of the bear at GFM:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27861274754/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: OK here goes nothin'

[John]

It's installed and *I AM PISSED OFF!*

It said it wasn't going to change any of my programs and it did.
Completely removed the Classic Shell and both my Pale Moon web browser &
Thunderbird look like Google Chrome. I hate it! I don't fuckin' want it!

God only knows how long it will take me to find all the things they
fucked up and put them back the way I like them ... IF I even can.

What a piece of shit. Looks like the bastard child of Windoze Vista and
that goddamn dancing paper clip.


On 7/21/2016 1:11 PM, John wrote:

Following the procrastinator's guide to Windoze 10 upgrade, I'm
currently creating an image backup of my system. I already have the USB
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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

Right PJ. Pentax cameras prior to the K-3II do not support the new electronic 
AV control and no firmware
will be available to allow them to do so.
J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 12:17 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure the K-5 doesn't work with the electronic aperture lenses.  
> That would require a firmware upgrade, and the New Richo/Pentax isn't Fuji.
> 
>> On 7/22/2016 8:33 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> I'm not aware of the version designation.
>> Check any included info and chase
>> it on the web. I'll take a look also.
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> its the L version if that makes a diiference
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
> every one in LR.
> 
> Any thoughts on this.
> 
> Dave
> 
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PESO 2016 - 155 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

https://flic.kr/p/JXpp8w

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Re: hoods

[P.J. Alling]

I think the more important question is will the lens be able to obtain 
representation, it being a oppressed minority and all...


On 7/21/2016 4:21 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ill be suing the 55-300 today at the horse drawn plowing demo so we'll
see how it does


Will you be representng yourself or hiring a lawyer ?  ;-)

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" 
Subject: Re: hoods



I picked one of the many China sites and ordered a hood.

Ill be suing the 55-300 today at the horse drawn plowing demo so we'll
see how it does

DaVE

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Alan C  wrote:
Astonishing. Only says "Add to Basket" under "Buy it Now". Nothing 
in red at

all.

But, you're right - I eventually found it under the exclusions & US 
isn't on

the "change country list" either.

LOL

Alan C

-Original Message- From: John
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:01 PM

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: hoods

Right below the "Buy it now" in RED letters:


: Postage: Doesn't post to United States [See details]
: Item location: ShenZhen,GuangDong, China
: Posts to: Worldwide [See exclusions]



If you click on "See details" you get:


: Postage and packaging
: Item location: ShenZhen,GuangDong, China
: Postage to: Worldwide
: Excludes: Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Isle of Wight, Northern 
Ireland,
: Scilly Isles, Scottish Highlands, Scottish Islands, Hong Kong, 
Taiwan,
: United States, China, Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Germany, 
Ireland,

: Switzerland, Ukraine
: : This item doesn't post to United States



It *may* ship to Canada, but Dave would probably be better off going
through "www.ebay.ca".

On 7/20/2016 12:38 AM, Alan C wrote:


Where did you see that? Says worldwide on my browser.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: John
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:10 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: hoods

This one will probably work better. The one Alan posted says it 
doesn't

ship to the US.

Here's an eBay search of the US site.

http://tinyurl.com/55-300-Hood

Oh, and eBay Canada

http://tinyurl.com/55-300-Canada



On 7/19/2016 2:08 PM, Alan C wrote:


Sorry, forgot the link.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PH-RBG-58mm-Lens-Hood-for-PENTAX-K-r-K-m-K-x-DA-55-300mm-f4-5-8-ED-/222062813010?hash=item33b3f99f52:g:9eUAAOSwoudW8s1A 





Alan C

-Original Message- From: David J Brooks
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:17 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: hoods

Yes i bought the L plastic mount version, it was the only one
available to me. I just ahd a look at some of the hoods that i found
on the net, starting at $60 odd bucks plus shipping. I may just get
the aluminum foil hood a try,

Dave

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:27 AM, mike wilson 


wrote:


On 19 July 2016 at 13:23 Bill  wrote:


On 7/19/2016 6:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> My new 55-300 did not come with a hood. I use hoods more than 
i use
> filters, but is this th enew norm?? lenses with out hoods or 
is it

> because of the focal lenght of this lens that a hood is not >
> advisable.
> If it is not any places for purchasing one or which one to get??
>
> Dave
>

Pentax Canada shows both versions of the 55-300 as coming with a 
hood.

If your lens is new, not new to you, it should have had a hood
included.
I expect the Pentax hood is available as a part.



You may want to sit down before you look, though.  One of the 
main UK

suppliers
used to list Pentax lens caps with the note "Same plastic, twice the
price" -
and they were.  Lens hoods were up to 1/3rd of the cost of the 
new lens.

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Re: hoods

[P.J. Alling]

You mean like this?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/duelingcamerasdiptych2.jpg

On 7/20/2016 12:46 AM, David Mann wrote:

You mean it's reversible for looking like a dork when out shooting :)

I see it far too often...

Cheers,
Dave


On Jul 20, 2016, at 7:13 AM, Alan C  wrote:

It's exactly the same as the one on my HD 55-300. Reversible (for compact 
bagging) on the bayonet too.

Alan C





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Re: first day review

[P.J. Alling]

I'm pretty sure the K-5 doesn't work with the electronic aperture 
lenses.  That would require a firmware upgrade, and the New Richo/Pentax 
isn't Fuji.


On 7/22/2016 8:33 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Price drops

[Stanley Halpin]

Just got a notice from B&H of price drops:

D FA 150-450 from $2500 down to $2000
D FA* 70-200 from $1800 down to $1700.

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Re: first day review

[P.J. Alling]

A sluggish aperture would probably cause over exposure, as the lens 
wouldn't be fully closed down when the shutter opened.


I have noticed that the K-5II, (and all earlier models of Pentax DSLR 
I've owned), grossly underexposed when using the green button on pre A 
lenses in dim light.  Long lenses also tend to underexpose, just a 
little, but the files in that case are still easily usable.


On 7/22/2016 1:54 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

For Dave Re: 55-300 & the lenses that are under exposing on the K-5.

I am using the 55-300 WR lens on a K-5 IIs and find it pretty sharp at
the 300mm end. Yep, the problem is the huge length of the Lens barrel
at 300mm. Sure enough the overhang contributes to unsteadiness and
shake.
Even on a tripod you need to use it with Mirror Up, as it does not
have a Tripod Collar.
Just wondering if there is a DIY for fitting a Tripod Collar from Evil Bay??

As for the Lenses Under Exposing, check if you have Spot Metering turned on??
Could be also that these lenses have a sluggish Aperture. Hope you
have checked with some other Lens?

I will be in Thornhill, Ontario visiting my son and you are welcome to
join me for a shooting tryout - with lenses of course.
Thornhill has plenty of Photogenic places, including my son's big
black dog Shadow who will obediently pose for us.

Regards.
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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

When using a tripod, I've learned to bridge a fairly weighty bean bag 
between the lens and camera body. Especially if there is even a slight breeze.

J

 


- Original Message -
From: "Bipin Gupta" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:54:11 AM
Subject: first day review

For Dave Re: 55-300 & the lenses that are under exposing on the K-5.

I am using the 55-300 WR lens on a K-5 IIs and find it pretty sharp at
the 300mm end. Yep, the problem is the huge length of the Lens barrel
at 300mm. Sure enough the overhang contributes to unsteadiness and
shake.
Even on a tripod you need to use it with Mirror Up, as it does not
have a Tripod Collar.
Just wondering if there is a DIY for fitting a Tripod Collar from Evil Bay??

As for the Lenses Under Exposing, check if you have Spot Metering turned on??
Could be also that these lenses have a sluggish Aperture. Hope you
have checked with some other Lens?

I will be in Thornhill, Ontario visiting my son and you are welcome to
join me for a shooting tryout - with lenses of course.
Thornhill has plenty of Photogenic places, including my son's big
black dog Shadow who will obediently pose for us.

Regards.
Bipin.
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Re: PESO 2016 - 153, 154 - GDG

[Jack Davis]

Yeah, shutter speed could allow a difference. 
I agree it's a non issue.:)

J

- Original Message -
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:50:38 AM
Subject: Re: PESO 2016 - 153, 154 - GDG

They're not fundamentally different in sharpness …

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/153-det/face.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/153-det/sign.png

… but people do move and signs do not. :-)

G

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Godfrey, the "EXIT" sign above the
> door in the background appears considerably sharper than the subjects face. 
> Actually, the door
> grain does as well.
> I"m looking only at my phone however, so...?
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Kind of a 'cafe day' yesterday. :-)
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/Ko3A6R
>> https://flic.kr/p/Ko3zLc
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first day review

[Bipin Gupta]

For Dave Re: 55-300 & the lenses that are under exposing on the K-5.

I am using the 55-300 WR lens on a K-5 IIs and find it pretty sharp at
the 300mm end. Yep, the problem is the huge length of the Lens barrel
at 300mm. Sure enough the overhang contributes to unsteadiness and
shake.
Even on a tripod you need to use it with Mirror Up, as it does not
have a Tripod Collar.
Just wondering if there is a DIY for fitting a Tripod Collar from Evil Bay??

As for the Lenses Under Exposing, check if you have Spot Metering turned on??
Could be also that these lenses have a sluggish Aperture. Hope you
have checked with some other Lens?

I will be in Thornhill, Ontario visiting my son and you are welcome to
join me for a shooting tryout - with lenses of course.
Thornhill has plenty of Photogenic places, including my son's big
black dog Shadow who will obediently pose for us.

Regards.
Bipin.
camp: San Mateo, California

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Re: PESO 2016 - 153, 154 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

They're not fundamentally different in sharpness …

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/153-det/face.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/153-det/sign.png

… but people do move and signs do not. :-)

G

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Godfrey, the "EXIT" sign above the
> door in the background appears considerably sharper than the subjects face. 
> Actually, the door
> grain does as well.
> I"m looking only at my phone however, so...?
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Kind of a 'cafe day' yesterday. :-)
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/Ko3A6R
>> https://flic.kr/p/Ko3zLc
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Re: PESO 2016 - 153, 154 - GDG

[Jack Davis]

Godfrey, the "EXIT" sign above the
door in the background appears considerably sharper than the subjects face. 
Actually, the door
grain does as well.
I"m looking only at my phone however, so...?
J

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> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Kind of a 'cafe day' yesterday. :-)
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/Ko3A6R
>  https://flic.kr/p/Ko3zLc
> 
> enjoy! 
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Re: first day review

[Alan C]

Now I almost believe in mental telepathy! However, I thought I would check 
out an image before opening my big mouth. I don't use matrix metering at all 
for that very reason. Don't seem to have any troubles with centre-weighted. 
I sometimes get the opposite with spot metering on a small, dark subject but 
the over-exposed outer parts of the frame get cropped out.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:53 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: first day review


Dave,

What mode of metering were you using?
(center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

You probably know this, but just in case:
If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of
bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.

From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty

of bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow
field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but
even worse.

The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the
center by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and
that one is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same
effect.

HTH,

Igor



On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:



So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave


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Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70

[Igor PDML-StR]

I am not on the market for these lenses at the moment. But if I were, I'd 
be torn. My current "most universal" lens (i.e. the one that is attached 
by default) on K5-IIs is 17-70, which provides the FOV similar to the 
full-frame camera with 25-105.
 And I am using the wide end much more often than the long end of the 
range. But every so often, I enjoy that extra reach to 70 (105), even 
though the image quality is a bit lower there. If I have time, I am 
switching to 50-135 for the longer range, but for a quick grab, 17-70 does 
a reasonable job @50-70mm.


So, ideally I'd want 24-105. :-)
But with what is available, if the price wasn't in the consideration,
I'd choose 24-70, primarily due to the wide end.
f/2.8 is an added bonus.

With the Pentax film camera, my first and "primary" lens was Tokina ATX 
Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8, and I bought that for the speed and for the good IQ 
optimized for the price. I was missing on the wide end, and that's why I 
bought Tokina 18-35 (or was it 19-35?).


Igor



Gonz Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:20:17 -0700 wrote:

The reviews on B&H are very positive for both lenses, with lots of
praise for the 28-105's sharpness.



On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Gonz wrote:


Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them?  The 24-70 is
almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8
aperture, is the image quality that much better?



I'm curious too.  I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens.
Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've had dry
weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I need the
faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach.

I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 28-75/2.8 you
can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less than the
24-70.



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PESO 2016 - 153, 154 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Kind of a 'cafe day' yesterday. :-)

  https://flic.kr/p/Ko3A6R
  https://flic.kr/p/Ko3zLc

enjoy! 
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Re: first day review

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dave,

What mode of metering were you using?
(center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

You probably know this, but just in case:
If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of 
bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty 
of bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow 
field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but 
even worse.


The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the 
center by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and 
that one is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same 
effect.


HTH,

Igor



On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:



So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave


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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

FYI: I understand that the new electronically controlled aperture version will 
not work
on any Pentax version prior to the K-311.
J
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From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I see two different versions listed on the B&H site. One is new and not yet 
available
from B&H. Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
version.
Where did you buy it?
J 


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Subject: Re: first day review

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> its the L version if that makes a diiference
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
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Re: first day review

[Alan C]

Perhaps you could post one of your shots with the EXIF?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: David J Brooks

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 12:58 PM
To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: first day review

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

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Re: first day review

[Eric Featherstone]

The DA-L version is the DA version without a hood and with a plastics rather 
than metal lens mount. You'd be better looking at B Dimitrov's 'site than B&H I 
think. 

Eric

> On 22 Jul 2016, at 13:55, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> I see two different versions listed on the B&H site. One is new and not yet 
> available
> from B&H. Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
> version.
> Where did you buy it?
> J 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Davis" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:33:01 AM
> Subject: Re: first day review
> 
> I'm not aware of the version designation.
> Check any included info and chase
> it on the web. I'll take a look also.
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> its the L version if that makes a diiference
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
 
 So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
 dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
 K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
 extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
 decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
 camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
 correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
 under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
 shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
 sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
 every one in LR.
 
 Any thoughts on this.
 
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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

I see two different versions listed on the B&H site. One is new and not yet 
available
from B&H. Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
version.
Where did you buy it?
J 


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I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> its the L version if that makes a diiference
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> its the L version if that makes a diiference
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: first day review

[David J Brooks]

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>> every one in LR.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
> every one in LR.
> 
> Any thoughts on this.
> 
> Dave
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Re: first day review

[Jack Davis]

Have used the DA55-300 on the K-5
and K-3 for several thousand frames
and have had no issues, including AV.
J

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> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
> every one in LR.
> 
> Any thoughts on this.
> 
> Dave
> 
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> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
> www.caughtinmotion.com
> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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first day review

[David J Brooks]

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
York Region, Ontario, Canada

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