Re: GESO - Coyles in New York

[Paul in MKE]

Try this...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/New%20York/album/


On 12/29/2016 12:07 AM, Philip Northeast wrote:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/New York/album/ 


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Re: GESO - Coyles in New York

[Philip Northeast]

The URL did not work for me

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 29/12/16 2:36 pm, John Coyle wrote:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/New York/album/


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GESO - Coyles in New York

[John Coyle]

To stop Ann toe-tapping, here's the set from NY!
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/New York/album/

Comments etc., all welcome.



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Re: K50/1.2

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Dec 28, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl  
> wrote:
> 
> How many of these were made?

Not enough.

> 
> Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?
> 
> —

Probably not. They probably did some ouija board consultation, came up with a 
projected demand, rounded up to the nearest thousand, and made a batch. And 
then moved on to other things.
(This is the same answer I would give if you asked about the FA* 200/4.0 
Macro.) 

Pure speculation of course, but i would think that the economics of running 
multiple production lines with multiple products, all of which would depend on 
subcomponents from various suppliers, would dictate a batch-mode process: stock 
the materials (and/or get a supply flow established), build “enough” plus a 
few, ship them out (and let the wholesalers and retailers worry about a place 
to store the to-be-sold stock), reconfigure the line, and start making 
something else.

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Re: PESO: Frosty French Flanders

[Alan C]

Aha!

Alan C

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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:41 PM
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Subject: PESO: Frosty French Flanders

A few impressions from the river Aa in Northern France, this morning. -3
°C and freezing fog:

http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.fr/2016/12/frostige-grue-von-der-aa.html

Enjoy.

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Re: K50/1.2

[Larry Colen]

They listen to it on the radio

On December 28, 2016 6:35:58 PM PST, Bill  wrote:
>On 12/28/2016 8:27 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>> Bill Spoke Thusly
>>
>>> On 12/28/2016 7:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>>
 How many of these were made?
>>

>>
 Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?
>>

>>
>>>
>>
>>> 42, and no.
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you just watch Hitchhiker?
>>
>Nobody "just" watches Hitchhiker.

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Re: K50/1.2

[Bill]

On 12/28/2016 8:27 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

Bill Spoke Thusly


On 12/28/2016 7:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:



How many of these were made?







Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?











42, and no.








Did you just watch Hitchhiker?


Nobody "just" watches Hitchhiker.

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Re: K50/1.2

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Bill Spoke Thusly

>On 12/28/2016 7:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

>> How many of these were made?

>> 

>> Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?

>> 

> 

>42, and no.

> 

 

Did you just watch Hitchhiker?

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Re: PESO - Multitasking

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 12/21/2016 9:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> It's coffee o'clock ...
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>
>> 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>> safe enough, no? :)
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
>>
>> Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
>>
>
> Damn, that's a fine photograph.

And that's fine praise. Thank you, Bill!

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Re: PESO - Multitasking

[Bruce Walker]

Agreed, Bob. One or two of those tasks would get fumbled. :)


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Reading, drinking coffee and waiting for her laundry to dry, all at the same 
> time? More than any man could achieve...
>
> B
>
>> On 21 Dec 2016, at 16:07, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>> Nice shot, but don't think it is multitasking
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>>> On 12/21/2016 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> It's coffee o'clock ...
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>>
>>> 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>>> safe enough, no? :)
>>>
>>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
>>>
>>> Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
>>>
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Re: PESO - Multitasking

[Bruce Walker]

Appreciated, Ken!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Great subject/pose, very nice lighting... What's not to like?
>
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> -Original Message-
>>From: Bruce Walker 
>>Subject: PESO - Multitasking
>>
>>It's coffee o'clock ...
>>
>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>
>>90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>>safe enough, no? :)
>>
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>>5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
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Re: PESO - Multitasking

[Bruce Walker]

Down, boy! :)

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I think I could help her multitask more. ;)
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> It's coffee o'clock ...
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>
>> 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>> safe enough, no? :)
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
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>> Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
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Re: PESO - Multitasking

[Bruce Walker]

Should she be doing something with her feet too? Maybe you just take
reading and drinking a hot beverage at the same time for granted. :)

Thanks, Ann!


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:06 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Nice shot, but don't think it is multitasking
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/21/2016 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> It's coffee o'clock ...
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>
>> 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>> safe enough, no? :)
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
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Re: PESO - Multitasking

[Bruce Walker]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 21/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>It's coffee o'clock ...
>>
>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/
>>
>>90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it
>>safe enough, no? :)
>>
>>645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>>5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
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>>Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
>
> Superb. Just right. Delicate lighting and great pose.

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Re: Thoughts on Electronic vs Mechanical shutter?

[Bill]

On 12/28/2016 11:28 AM, John Francis wrote:


I think you have that backwards.

With an electronic shutter, the image is taken at electronic speeds; the
entire sensor is cleared, then the image is captured.  There's no reason
for the electronics to expose different pixels at different times. While
there will certainly be some delay across the sensor, I would expect all
the pixel exposures to be synchronized to within a nanosecond, which is
effectively simultaneous as far as any mechanical system is concerned.



The electronic shutter in the Fuji X-T1 takes about 1/30th of a second 
to read the entire frame. I expect the Pentax is similar.


What you are talking about is a global shutter, not a rolling shutter. 
I'm quite certain that Pentax uses a rolling shutter.




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Re: K50/1.2

[Bill]

On 12/28/2016 7:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

How many of these were made?

Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?



42, and no.

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K50/1.2

[Collin Brendemuehl]

How many of these were made?

Is there any relationship between the serial numbers and the dates?

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Re: PESO covered bridge at night

[Philip Northeast]

a nice series

Philip Northeast

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On 29/12/16 8:02 am, Larry Colen wrote:

Someone recently posted a photo of the local covered bridge lit by
holiday lighting.  I thought that my own take on that would be a good
excuse to play with the 15-30.  I had barely set things up and taken a
couple of test shots last night when all of the lights were turned off.

I may go back a bit earlier in the evening for another try at lower
ISOs, but even so, this one didn't turn out too bad:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/31895178246/in/album-72157676984105750/


While I was out, I got a few more shots, some while playing with speed
lights, and then tried photographing the Felton branch of the library (a
converted church) at night.  For them that are interested:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157676984105750

The library is quite the challenge to shoot without putting a light in
the frame.   I should maybe try with a longer lens for a narrow AoV and
less glare.



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Re: PESO - woman seated by the fire

[Bruce Walker]

I sure do. Now that I'm back on Facebook I feel I'm walking on
eggshells every time I post something. Their attitude to the
definition of art and what is acceptable to them is inscrutable.


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:59 PM, John  wrote:
> Sometimes you have to wonder who are the real "boobs" though!
>
> On 12/28/2016 4:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.
>>
>> This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
>>
>> Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
>>
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Re: PESO - woman seated by the fire

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Dave!

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:31 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> nice lighting and pose
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.
>>
>> This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
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>>
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Re: PESO - woman seated by the fire

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks, Larry.

This shot was part of an experiment for me in trying to frame more
loosely and include more ambient detail. Trouble for me here is that
the ambient contains little interesting detail. The stone/brick walls
are bare, and the floor is nice but featureless. So I ended up
cropping into the frame a bit in the end. The fire is supposed to
balance against the girl and give your eyes something else to wander
over. I decided to make the circle of her petticoat symmetrically
contained by the frame and she's leaning back so her upper body ends
up to the left and places the fire to the right. I thought that made a
nice inverted triangle.

Sigh. Who knows? Composition is a tough language to learn. Sometimes I
think I should go to night school art classes, but I'm a complete
klutz with paint brushes, so I think I'd get tossed out. I might be
okay with pastels or chalk though. Hmmm ...


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I love the lighting, and the subject is gorgeous.  Having her so centered in
> the frame doesn't feel right to me.  At the very least I'd crop the right
> and bottom tighter so she is looking more into rather than out of the frame.
> Alternatively, I'd try cropping tight to the dress and over her head as
> well.  While she is excellent, the fire is merely nice and I think cropping
> in as tight as you can would dilute less of the excellent with just nice.
>
>
>
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.
>>
>> This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
>> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
>>
>> Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.
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Re: PESO: Frosty French Flanders

[ann sanfedele]

and I do enjoy - especially the middle one.. the road next to the 
canal.   The last one is a sad sight.. I'm a bit bothered by there not 
being any space above the


structural frame of the buildingin the last one..

ann


On 12/28/2016 3:41 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
A few impressions from the river Aa in Northern France, this morning. 
-3 °C and freezing fog:


http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.fr/2016/12/frostige-grue-von-der-aa.html 



Enjoy.

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Re: PESO - woman seated by the fire

[John]

Sometimes you have to wonder who are the real "boobs" though!

On 12/28/2016 4:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.

This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo

645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
5' gridded stripbox, camera right.

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Re: PESO - woman seated by the fire

[David J Brooks]

nice lighting and pose

Dave

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.
>
> This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.
>
> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo
>
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> 5' gridded stripbox, camera right.
>
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Re: PESO - woman seated by the fire

[Larry Colen]

I love the lighting, and the subject is gorgeous.  Having her so 
centered in the frame doesn't feel right to me.  At the very least I'd 
crop the right and bottom tighter so she is looking more into rather 
than out of the frame.  Alternatively, I'd try cropping tight to the 
dress and over her head as well.  While she is excellent, the fire is 
merely nice and I think cropping in as tight as you can would dilute 
less of the excellent with just nice.




Bruce Walker wrote:

Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.

This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo

645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
5' gridded stripbox, camera right.

Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.



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Re: PESO: Frosty French Flanders

[Bruce Walker]

Lovely, moody feel to these, Ralf. I especially like the first two,
with the river.


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> A few impressions from the river Aa in Northern France, this morning. -3 °C
> and freezing fog:
>
> http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.fr/2016/12/frostige-grue-von-der-aa.html
>
> Enjoy.
>
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Re: PESO: Frosty French Flanders

[Larry Colen]

That looks really cold.  Nice work.  You even do good work in the daylight.



Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

A few impressions from the river Aa in Northern France, this morning. -3
°C and freezing fog:

http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.fr/2016/12/frostige-grue-von-der-aa.html

Enjoy.

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PESO covered bridge at night

[Larry Colen]

Someone recently posted a photo of the local covered bridge lit by 
holiday lighting.  I thought that my own take on that would be a good 
excuse to play with the 15-30.  I had barely set things up and taken a 
couple of test shots last night when all of the lights were turned off.


I may go back a bit earlier in the evening for another try at lower 
ISOs, but even so, this one didn't turn out too bad:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/31895178246/in/album-72157676984105750/

While I was out, I got a few more shots, some while playing with speed 
lights, and then tried photographing the Felton branch of the library (a 
converted church) at night.  For them that are interested:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157676984105750

The library is quite the challenge to shoot without putting a light in 
the frame.   I should maybe try with a longer lens for a narrow AoV and 
less glare.


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PESO - woman seated by the fire

[Bruce Walker]

Inspired by Marc LaGrange, and maybe a bit cheesy, but what the heck.

This one's in colour, and is solidly NSFW because boobs.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GgHoq5gQcQhY/IVODDPeI99fo

645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld.
5' gridded stripbox, camera right.

Dane Halo, model, makeup, hair.

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PESO: Frosty French Flanders

[Ralf R Radermacher]

A few impressions from the river Aa in Northern France, this morning. -3 
°C and freezing fog:


http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.fr/2016/12/frostige-grue-von-der-aa.html

Enjoy.

Ralf

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Re: Thoughts on Electronic vs Mechanical shutter?

[John Francis]

I think you have that backwards.

With an electronic shutter, the image is taken at electronic speeds; the
entire sensor is cleared, then the image is captured.  There's no reason
for the electronics to expose different pixels at different times. While
there will certainly be some delay across the sensor, I would expect all
the pixel exposures to be synchronized to within a nanosecond, which is
effectively simultaneous as far as any mechanical system is concerned.

With a mechanical shutter, however, you're not going to get that. There
will be a difference in time between the top and bottom of an exposure
frame, because the opening and closing of the shutter is controlled by the
movement of the shutter blind across the sensor. To a first approximation
the difference in time is the maximum flash synchronisation exposure speed
(not using high-speed flash, of course). Even if you have a camera capable
of flash synchronisation at 1/1000 of a second, thats still six orders of
magnitude more temporal distortion artifacts than from an electronic shutter.

while electronic shutters can expose all the pixels simultaneously, they
only read out the pixels sequentially.  But that's because of bandwidth
limitations (both within the sensor chip and in the interface to the camera),
not because the pixels are being exposed at different times.


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:51:28AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> I was playing with some night landscape work tonight, using live view, and
> when I took a photo, I didn't hear the shutter.  I realized that was because
> I had set my camera to use electronic shutter in live view because that
> means it doesn't need to go flop flop with the shutter and you don't get all
> of the shutter lag.
> 
> I realize that with objects in motion, using an electronic, or rolling,
> shutter, you can get some interesting bits of distortion.  However, it seems
> to me that on very long exposures, that effect is minimized, and you are
> saved a whole bunch of mirror bounce.
> 
> Are there any major disadvantages of using live view/electronic shutter, on
> tripod mounted long exposures that I'm missing?
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Re: Thoughts on Electronic vs Mechanical shutter?

[Zos Xavius]

You don't see the rolling effect because it is only a half electronic
shutter. When the shutter closes or stops as an electronic aperture
does is when you get the motion artifacts. That's when the sensor
starts reading out. With a mechanical shutter it just closes and
starts reading off the sensor. With electronic it reads the sensor in
chunks. First curtain is possibly going to have more noise, but
probably not really since you are already in live view and the sensor
is active. If anything the electronic shutter might help with
vibrations. I don't see any major disadvantage there really.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was playing with some night landscape work tonight, using live view, and
> when I took a photo, I didn't hear the shutter.  I realized that was because
> I had set my camera to use electronic shutter in live view because that
> means it doesn't need to go flop flop with the shutter and you don't get all
> of the shutter lag.
>
> I realize that with objects in motion, using an electronic, or rolling,
> shutter, you can get some interesting bits of distortion.  However, it seems
> to me that on very long exposures, that effect is minimized, and you are
> saved a whole bunch of mirror bounce.
>
> Are there any major disadvantages of using live view/electronic shutter, on
> tripod mounted long exposures that I'm missing?
>
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Thoughts on Electronic vs Mechanical shutter?

[Larry Colen]

I was playing with some night landscape work tonight, using live view, 
and when I took a photo, I didn't hear the shutter.  I realized that was 
because I had set my camera to use electronic shutter in live view 
because that means it doesn't need to go flop flop with the shutter and 
you don't get all of the shutter lag.


I realize that with objects in motion, using an electronic, or rolling, 
shutter, you can get some interesting bits of distortion.  However, it 
seems to me that on very long exposures, that effect is minimized, and 
you are saved a whole bunch of mirror bounce.


Are there any major disadvantages of using live view/electronic shutter, 
on tripod mounted long exposures that I'm missing?


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