Re: Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul in MKE
Since they are both much newer technology I suspect either will produce 
better prints than the 2880.  From what I've read, the P5000 is the one 
to get if you're doing heavy printing day after day.  It probably 
produces somewhat better prints, too, but I doubt the difference would 
be noticeable without serious magnified examination.  The other 
question, for me, would be how many prints do I have to sell to justify 
the cost difference.


-p


On 3/28/2017 4:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Which is a better photo printer? I'm still happy with my 2880, but I want a 17 
inch carriage model.

Paul via phone


On Mar 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:

The 5000 is not a replacement for the P800.  It's a replacement for the 4900. 
Is more of a production model than the P800 with a different inkset, different 
heads, beefier build with an MSRP about $500 more than the P800.

-p



On 3/28/2017 3:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Haven't these been replaced? I keep seeing ads for the 5000S, which appears to 
be a replacement for the 800P.

Paul via phone


On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:

If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some rebates 
good through the end of March.

Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...


http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof

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Re: PESO: FMX Lane

2017-03-28 Thread David Mann
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> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:02 PM, David Mann  wrote:
>> A while back I posted a photo of a spray-painted road marking showing where 
>> the cycle lane will go.  I was cycling past the museum today when I saw what 
>> looks like markings for an FMX lane. \m/
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1050/#peso
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Re: PESO: FMX Lane

2017-03-28 Thread Bruce Walker
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> looks like markings for an FMX lane. \m/
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> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1050/#peso
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PESO: FMX Lane

2017-03-28 Thread David Mann
A while back I posted a photo of a spray-painted road marking showing where the 
cycle lane will go.  I was cycling past the museum today when I saw what looks 
like markings for an FMX lane. \m/

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1050/#peso

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Re: PESO: Worlds Apart

2017-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice storytelling. I like the color. The light limits the BW version.

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> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Very well seen and captured!
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>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> A November Sunday in Lisbon. Color version:
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18364062/
>> 
>> Channeling Marko:
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18364064/
>> 
>> (Can't seem to get his sharpness and contrast, though...)
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: PESO: Worlds Apart

2017-03-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very well seen and captured!

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On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> A November Sunday in Lisbon. Color version:
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18364062/
>
> Channeling Marko:
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18364064/
>
> (Can't seem to get his sharpness and contrast, though...)
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
>
> Rick
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Re: PESO: Worlds Apart

2017-03-28 Thread Philip Northeast
The black and white version is better. For me the people seem to get a 
bit lost in the colour version, which is strange seeing as it is 
basically a monochrome background.


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On 29/3/17 9:30 am, Rick Womer wrote:

A November Sunday in Lisbon. Color version:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18364062/

Channeling Marko:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18364064/

(Can't seem to get his sharpness and contrast, though...)

Comments appreciated.


Rick


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Re: PESO: Worlds Apart

2017-03-28 Thread ann sanfedele

glad I dropped by tonight (haven't checked list for a few days)
you did your Marco channeling well...

Black and white best, because color doesn't add to the story
great grab shot, Rick!
ann

On 3/28/2017 6:30 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

A November Sunday in Lisbon. Color version:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18364062/

Channeling Marko:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18364064/

(Can't seem to get his sharpness and contrast, though...)

Comments appreciated.


Rick


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dung beetles aren't interested. (Testing? Why would anyone do any
testing before going live?)




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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 02:39:21PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
> I don't know how many US airports Delta and Delta Connections fly to
> (out of almost 400 commercial airports), but 84 is probably not all of them.

I count 252

Your 400 figure is a bit low, too - my count shows 662 airports
in the USA that have scheduled flights operating to/from them.

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PESO: Worlds Apart

2017-03-28 Thread Rick Womer
A November Sunday in Lisbon. Color version:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18364062/

Channeling Marko:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18364064/

(Can't seem to get his sharpness and contrast, though...)

Comments appreciated.


Rick


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Re: Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Which is a better photo printer? I'm still happy with my 2880, but I want a 17 
inch carriage model.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:
> 
> The 5000 is not a replacement for the P800.  It's a replacement for the 4900. 
> Is more of a production model than the P800 with a different inkset, 
> different heads, beefier build with an MSRP about $500 more than the P800.
> 
> -p
> 
> 
>> On 3/28/2017 3:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Haven't these been replaced? I keep seeing ads for the 5000S, which appears 
>> to be a replacement for the 800P.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some 
>>> rebates good through the end of March.
>>> 
>>> Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof
>>> 
>>> -p
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Re: Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul in MKE
The 5000 is not a replacement for the P800.  It's a replacement for the 
4900. Is more of a production model than the P800 with a different 
inkset, different heads, beefier build with an MSRP about $500 more than 
the P800.


-p


On 3/28/2017 3:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Haven't these been replaced? I keep seeing ads for the 5000S, which appears to 
be a replacement for the 800P.

Paul via phone


On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:

If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some rebates 
good through the end of March.

Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...


http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof

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Re: Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1306059-REG/epson_scp5000se_surecolor_p5000_standard_edition.html

It's pricier than the 800P, but I like the feature set.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> The new model is P5000, not 5000S.
> https://luminous-landscape.com/epson-introduces-surecolor-p5000-professional-17-inch-10-color-inkjet-printer/
> 
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>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:
>> 
>> If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some 
>> rebates good through the end of March.
>> 
>> Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...
>> 
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof
>> 
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Re: Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
The new model is P5000, not 5000S.
https://luminous-landscape.com/epson-introduces-surecolor-p5000-professional-17-inch-10-color-inkjet-printer/

Paul via phone

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:
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> If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some rebates 
> good through the end of March.
> 
> Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...
> 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof
> 
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Re: Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Haven't these been replaced? I keep seeing ads for the 5000S, which appears to 
be a replacement for the 800P. 

Paul via phone

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Paul in MKE  wrote:
> 
> If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some rebates 
> good through the end of March.
> 
> Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...
> 
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> http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof
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Epson rebates

2017-03-28 Thread Paul in MKE
If you're thinking of buying an Epson P series printer there are some 
rebates good through the end of March.


Link to P400 info, P600 and P800 have similar deals...


http://tinyurl.com/mv2poof

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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Stan,

I don't know about Delta, I haven't flown on Delta for ages.
That's why I didn't write "all" airlines.

My most recent personal experience was with Turkish Airlines and Czech 
Airlines last summer (on international flights), and with Frontier 
(domestic) last month.
All of them claimed they do not do real time tracking (if any tracking at 
all).
While discussing the situation with the first two, I've read confirmation 
that [at least some] other major airlines do not track packages in real 
time (if at all).




As for Delta and its app, - I actually wonder what is done "under the 
hood". Do they actually *track* your luggage (i.e. do they show you

the actual scan place and time?) or they just follow your itinerary,
making an *ASSUMPTION* that the luggage follows alone?

Well, I see the answers to my questions here:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/26/13415458/delta-bag-tracking-app
It's a very recent feature, just a few months old.
I don't know how many US airports Delta and Delta Connections fly to
(out of almost 400 commercial airports), but 84 is probably not all of 
them. But I am glad to see that a major carrier started such an effort.

Hopefully, the others will follow suit.

Thanks for alerting me about its existence.


Igor


 Stanley Halpin Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:29:04 -0700 wrote:


On Mar 28, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



...

In today's electronic world, when you can see (close to) real-time tracking 
of FedEx and UPS packages, - you'd be surprised that the airlines (at least 
many of them) do not track the movement of luggage in real time.

I.e. they cannot see where the last scan was.
My understanding is that the only reason for the bar codes on the luggage 
tags today is just for sorting. (Or, maybe they have some capability to
research those scans offline.) It looks like, unlike Fedex and UPS, they have 
no financial incentives to introduce tracking.
(Cf. USPS has finally implemented real-time tracking of packages to compete 
with Fedex and UPS, despite being reluctant if not defiant for many-many 
years.)


Igor




On Delta, you can track your luggage on your iPhone if you have their app
installed. Pretty much real time. Nice to see: “your bag is now being 
delivered on Carousel 2”…


So yes, the technology definitely does support this feature. But then
technology supports allowing passengers to go online and reserve specific
seats, and [rant] yet some airlines don’t seem to be able to implement 
that feature. (Which is why I refuse to fly Southwest. [/rant])]


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Re: Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Jack Davis
Generous of you, Gonz!
Thanks!

J

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> Great shot Jack!
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>> Three Avocets in a hurry!
>> Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
>> Lucky Pan!
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Re: Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks very much, Bruce!

J

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> Wow, Jack! Just a super shot.
> 
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>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>> Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Stan:

Yep, the contradiction with the safety intents and regulations is evident.
I don't know how they are going to resolve that. Because the ion-batteries 
in the checked-in luggage is also a regulation...
In the end, it might mean that if you flew, say on Turkish Airlines to 
Europe (or even Turkey) with your laptop or tablet (and you know how many 
laptops and tablet you can see on todays flight, especially the one across 
the pond?) and you are flying back, you might become a hostage of your
own laptop when trying to board: You cannot check it in due to the 
battery, and you cannot take it in the carry-on.




It's interesting that Bloomberg.com thinks that the "laptop ban"  might 
not be about security, but about protectionism. Whether that's correct or 
not, - I don't know, but it sounds consistent.
Look at the references at the bottom of that article, - they mark the 
"money trail".


https://goo.gl/5TMloE
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-21/the-laptop-ban-and-what-it-means-for-air-travel-quicktake-q-a


Igor



 Stanley Halpin Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:15:05 -0700 wrote:

When I first read about the ban it gave me pause as well. Not least as it 
makes no sense in that it directly contradicts safety warnings about LiON 
batteries in checked bags.



But then I read a second time. It applies not to specific airlines, but 
rather to any flights by any airline that originate in one of x bad-guy 
countries and fly directly to the U.S. or U.K. It happens that no U.S. 
airlines have such routes, some U.K. airlines do. For the bad guys, this 
means that they will have to take connecting flights rather than direct 
flights if they want to cause trouble, and that extra hassle presumably 
will deter them. For the rest of us, so far the ban is irrelevant.


However, if/when it becomes more general, my plan is to keep my lenses and 
all batteries in my carry-on camera pack. I will carefully pack two camera 
bodies, one each in two different suitcases. Then check to verify 
insurance coverage, cross my fingers, and go.


stan


On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on certain airlines from 
some destination, I've been thinking that a few options for flying are no 
longer available for me.
As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other 
cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well.
And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a 
DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.


Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying 
their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines.
I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted 
because of their reputation.
Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying to 
Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with 
United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business and 
personal.


It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might* 
work:

(USA Today:)
https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/

With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back" that 
it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not sure if I 
would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure that my camera 
bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.


And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on the 
arrival to US.



Igor





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Re: Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Wow, Jack! Just a super shot.


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
> Three Avocets in a hurry!
> Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
> Lucky Pan!
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> J
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Re: Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Jack Davis
Thank you, Paul! 
In an abundance of honesty;
Lead bird just happened to be caught. Distance from the camera
purely accidental. Acrobatic flyers!
Should have been spelled, Avocets.
J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Very nice. Focus seems to be on the lead bird, which makes the most sense. 
> Well done.
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Three Avocets in a hurry!
>> Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
>> Lucky Pan!
>> 
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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Stanley Halpin

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> In today's electronic world, when you can see (close to) real-time tracking 
> of FedEx and UPS packages, - you'd be surprised that the airlines (at least 
> many of them) do not track the movement of luggage in real time.
> I.e. they cannot see where the last scan was.
> My understanding is that the only reason for the bar codes on the luggage 
> tags today is just for sorting. (Or, maybe they have some capability to
> research those scans offline.) It looks like, unlike Fedex and UPS, they have 
> no financial incentives to introduce tracking.
> (Cf. USPS has finally implemented real-time tracking of packages to compete 
> with Fedex and UPS, despite being reluctant if not defiant for many-many 
> years.)
> 
> Igor
> 

On Delta, you can track your luggage on your iPhone if you have their app 
installed. Pretty much real time. Nice to see: “your bag is now being delivered 
on Carousel 2”…

So yes, the technology definitely does support this feature. But then 
technology supports allowing passengers to go online and reserve specific 
seats, and [rant] yet some airlines don’t seem to be able to implement that 
feature. (Which is why I refuse to fly Southwest. [/rant])]

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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
When I first read about the ban it gave me pause as well. Not least as it makes 
no sense in that it directly contradicts safety warnings about LiON batteries 
in checked bags.

But then I read a second time. It applies not to specific airlines, but rather 
to any flights by any airline that originate in one of x bad-guy countries and 
fly directly to the U.S. or U.K. It happens that no U.S. airlines have such 
routes, some U.K. airlines do. 
For the bad guys, this means that they will have to take connecting flights 
rather than direct flights if they want to cause trouble, and that extra hassle 
presumably will deter them. For the rest of us, so far the ban is irrelevant.

However, if/when it becomes more general, my plan is to keep my lenses and all 
batteries in my carry-on camera pack. I will carefully pack two camera bodies, 
one each in two different suitcases. Then check to verify insurance coverage, 
cross my fingers, and go.

stan

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on certain airlines from 
> some destination, I've been thinking that a few options for flying are no 
> longer available for me.
> As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other 
> cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well.
> And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a 
> DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.
> 
> Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying 
> their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines.
> I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted 
> because of their reputation.
> Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying to 
> Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with 
> United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business and 
> personal.
> 
> It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might* 
> work:
> (USA Today:)
> https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/
> 
> With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back" that 
> it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not sure if I 
> would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure that my camera 
> bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.
> 
> And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on the 
> arrival to US.
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> 


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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR



That's a good thought regarding the lenses. It might be worth checking in 
a while how the foreign counterparts of TSA are reading the ban.

(It's often hard to argue with those.)

As for the camera, the primary concern is not about damage but about 
theft. A valuable item in the suitcase has a high potential of being 
removed from there.


Worse than that, there is yet another factor.
With connections, the likelyhood of a suitcase being lost is far from 
zero. When you have a valuable item in it, and you are flying 
from/to/through countries with low salaries and/or high level of 
corruption, the chances of the suitcase being lost become very 
significant.

So, even if your camera is insured, you are increasing chances for the
headache related to the rest of your belongings.

With the disproportionally low financial responsibilities that airlines 
carry for each lost suitcase, the airlines have rather low incentives to 
guard the luggage, or to track it properly.


In today's electronic world, when you can see (close to) real-time 
tracking of FedEx and UPS packages, - you'd be surprised that the airlines 
(at least many of them) do not track the movement of luggage in real time.

I.e. they cannot see where the last scan was.
My understanding is that the only reason for the bar codes on the luggage 
tags today is just for sorting. (Or, maybe they have some capability to
research those scans offline.) It looks like, unlike Fedex and UPS, they 
have no financial incentives to introduce tracking.
(Cf. USPS has finally implemented real-time tracking of packages to 
compete with Fedex and UPS, despite being reluctant if not defiant for 
many-many years.)


Igor


 Gonz Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:51:32 -0700 wrote:

Can't you carry your lenses on board and check in the camera with no
lenses?  I would think that the lenses would be more fragile, esp
since you can wrap the camera in clothing and put it in your suitcase?
 The lenses shouldn't be considered conventional "electronic device"
since they have no battery even though they may have some chip or
motors inside.


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on certain airlines from 
some destination, I've been thinking that a few options for flying are no 
longer available for me.
As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other 
cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well.
And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a 
DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.


Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying 
their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines.
I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted 
because of their reputation.
Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying to 
Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with 
United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business and 
personal.


It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might* 
work:

(USA Today:)
https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/

With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back" that 
it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not sure if I 
would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure that my camera 
bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.


And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on the 
arrival to US.



Igor





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Re: Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. Focus seems to be on the lead bird, which makes the most sense. Well 
done.
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Three Avocets in a hurry!
> Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
> Lucky Pan!
> 
> C? Thanks!
> 
> J
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Re: Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
Great shot Jack!


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
> Three Avocets in a hurry!
> Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
> Lucky Pan!
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Peso-Avacets

2017-03-28 Thread Jack Davis


Three Avocets in a hurry!
Shot last Mon @ Colusa.
Lucky Pan!

C? Thanks!

J

150-450

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Re: Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
Thanks Darren.  I'll check those out as well.

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=little+planet+tutorial
>
> Just to play the Devil's Advocate, I do not find them to be cool. I
> think they are tiresome, overdone, and make basically everything look
> the same. But "different strokes for different folks"!
> :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>> These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
>> one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
>> (who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
>> Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.
>>
>> https://bob-o-rama.smugmug.com/Little-Planets/
>>
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Re: Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
Thanks Mark!


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:55 AM,   wrote:
> Gonz  wrote:
>
>>These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
>>one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
>>(who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
>>Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.
>>
>>https://bob-o-rama.smugmug.com/Little-Planets/
>
> How-to: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1845
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Re: Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
I hear you.  They are tiresome if you have a million of them.  For a
one-of pic, I think it would be a nice idea for a gift for somebody
(of their home for example)


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=little+planet+tutorial
>
> Just to play the Devil's Advocate, I do not find them to be cool. I
> think they are tiresome, overdone, and make basically everything look
> the same. But "different strokes for different folks"!
> :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>> These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
>> one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
>> (who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
>> Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.
>>
>> https://bob-o-rama.smugmug.com/Little-Planets/
>>
>>
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Re: Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
Yeah, google is your friend.  I found this:

http://content.photojojo.com/tutorials/create-your-own-panorama-planets/


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
> one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
> (who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
> Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.
>
> https://bob-o-rama.smugmug.com/Little-Planets/
>
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Re: Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread postmaster
Gonz  wrote:

>These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
>one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
>(who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
>Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.
>
>https://bob-o-rama.smugmug.com/Little-Planets/

How-to: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1845


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Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
(who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.

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Re: Any idea how these images are generated?

2017-03-28 Thread Darren Addy
https://www.google.com/search?q=little+planet+tutorial

Just to play the Devil's Advocate, I do not find them to be cool. I
think they are tiresome, overdone, and make basically everything look
the same. But "different strokes for different folks"!
:)

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> These are very cool.  I was looking through Panotools users blogs and
> one of them pointed to this type of effect being created by someone
> (who is a Pentax user), but I have no idea how these are created.
> Anybody here know?  I'd love to make one of Austin, TX skyline.
>
> https://bob-o-rama.smugmug.com/Little-Planets/
>
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Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
Can't you carry your lenses on board and check in the camera with no
lenses?  I would think that the lenses would be more fragile, esp
since you can wrap the camera in clothing and put it in your suitcase?
 The lenses shouldn't be considered conventional "electronic device"
since they have no battery even though they may have some chip or
motors inside.

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>
> Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on certain airlines
> from some destination, I've been thinking that a few options for flying are
> no longer available for me.
> As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other
> cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well.
> And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a
> DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.
>
> Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying
> their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines.
> I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted
> because of their reputation.
> Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying
> to Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with
> United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business and
> personal.
>
> It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might*
> work:
> (USA Today:)
> https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/
>
> With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back"
> that it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not sure if
> I would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure that my
> camera bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.
>
> And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on
> the arrival to US.
>
>
> Igor
>
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PESO: Took a long lunch break yesterday to go hunting...

2017-03-28 Thread Darren Addy
Made a couple of mistakes on this run (starting with forgetting my K-3
II at home this day and having to use the K-01.

Comments and criticism welcome in equal measure (either here or on Flickr)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/32848720324/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...

2017-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
That kind of depends actually.   Ricoh could have chosen to limit movie 
recording time for any number of reasons,  famously, certain very 
expensive models of Nikon and Canon still cameras had those limits set 
because of EU regulations and taxes levied on video cameras which 
effected the entire world.  It could be that it was just easier to 
implement on the available hardware  for any number of underlying 
reasons.  I expect that it was left out because there simply wasn't room 
in the PROM chip too have everything.



On 3/28/2017 11:01 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

That's a good thought/question Gonz (overheating limiting the amount
of time you can shoot in that mode).
I have yet to try it, myself. But it would definitely good to know
what the limitations are, in that regard.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Gonz  wrote:

This doesn't work the same on the K-1.  On the K-1, in camera mode, it
has an interval shooting selection that can work to create either
frames or movies, but it still uses the full mirror/shutter path to do
so and the minimum interval is 2s.  It would be nice if it had an
electronic shutter mode for intervals of less than 2s and did not use
the mirror/shutter path.  But this probably has the same overheating
limitations of movie mode for long periods of time.  In movie mode
there are no interval options, only options for the remote. You might
as well use time-lapse mode in your iPhone or equivalent for these
types of situations.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am
trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of
interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize
this).

I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a
time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie
(tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax
cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can
also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image
number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually
then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or
some such software.

But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make
time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q,
this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my
K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then
hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control,
Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie
Mode" you select your:
Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD
Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1
min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.)
Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC
Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time)
If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN

Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull
that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further,
if a clip is too long for your tastes.

Here is an example someone took with a K-3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM

Example taken with a K-01:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw=youtu.be

As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of
time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a
viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers
superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to
daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker.

It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode,
though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording
interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2).

I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01.

The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the
individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you
would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times
when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great
advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting)
is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of
individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the
movie file.

Hope someone else finds this interesting.

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The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on 
certain airlines from some destination, I've been thinking that a few 
options for flying are no longer available for me.
As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other 
cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well.
And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a 
DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.


Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying 
their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines.
I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted 
because of their reputation.
Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying 
to Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with 
United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business 
and personal.


It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might* 
work:

(USA Today:)
https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/

With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back" 
that it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not 
sure if I would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure 
that my camera bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.


And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on 
the arrival to US.



Igor



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Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...

2017-03-28 Thread Darren Addy
That's a good thought/question Gonz (overheating limiting the amount
of time you can shoot in that mode).
I have yet to try it, myself. But it would definitely good to know
what the limitations are, in that regard.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> This doesn't work the same on the K-1.  On the K-1, in camera mode, it
> has an interval shooting selection that can work to create either
> frames or movies, but it still uses the full mirror/shutter path to do
> so and the minimum interval is 2s.  It would be nice if it had an
> electronic shutter mode for intervals of less than 2s and did not use
> the mirror/shutter path.  But this probably has the same overheating
> limitations of movie mode for long periods of time.  In movie mode
> there are no interval options, only options for the remote. You might
> as well use time-lapse mode in your iPhone or equivalent for these
> types of situations.
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am
>> trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of
>> interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize
>> this).
>>
>> I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a
>> time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie
>> (tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax
>> cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can
>> also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image
>> number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually
>> then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or
>> some such software.
>>
>> But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make
>> time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q,
>> this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my
>> K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then
>> hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control,
>> Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie
>> Mode" you select your:
>> Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD
>> Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1
>> min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.)
>> Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC
>> Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time)
>> If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN
>>
>> Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull
>> that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further,
>> if a clip is too long for your tastes.
>>
>> Here is an example someone took with a K-3:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM
>>
>> Example taken with a K-01:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw=youtu.be
>>
>> As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of
>> time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a
>> viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers
>> superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to
>> daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker.
>>
>> It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode,
>> though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording
>> interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2).
>>
>> I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01.
>>
>> The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the
>> individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you
>> would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times
>> when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great
>> advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting)
>> is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of
>> individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the
>> movie file.
>>
>> Hope someone else finds this interesting.
>>
>> Darren Addy
>> Kearney, Nebraska
>>
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>> ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above
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Re: Well, paint me green and call me a cucumber...

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
This doesn't work the same on the K-1.  On the K-1, in camera mode, it
has an interval shooting selection that can work to create either
frames or movies, but it still uses the full mirror/shutter path to do
so and the minimum interval is 2s.  It would be nice if it had an
electronic shutter mode for intervals of less than 2s and did not use
the mirror/shutter path.  But this probably has the same overheating
limitations of movie mode for long periods of time.  In movie mode
there are no interval options, only options for the remote. You might
as well use time-lapse mode in your iPhone or equivalent for these
types of situations.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> I have never gotten to really know my cameras really well, but am
> trying to change that. I learned something today that may be of
> interest to the PDML (if I'm not the only one who didn't realize
> this).
>
> I got a K-01 (long ago) and have planned to use it mainly as a
> time-lapse camera and also for astro work mounted on my Vixen Polarie
> (tracker). So most of us are well aware of the fact that our Pentax
> cameras have a built-in intervalometer. If they have a jack, they can
> also use external intervalometers (for example to exceed the image
> number limitations of the camera settings). The images are usually
> then compiled into time-lapse "movies" using Photoshop or Picasa or
> some such software.
>
> But what I only learned today is that there is a separate way to make
> time-lapse movies (in camera) using the MOVIE mode. On the K-01 and Q,
> this is done by selecting "interval shooting" in the movie menu. On my
> K-3 II, this is done by switching the switch to "Movie" and then
> hitting the Drive Mode button (where your options are: Remote Control,
> Remote Control Off, & Interval Movie Mode). Under "Interval Movie
> Mode" you select your:
> Recorded Pixels: 4K, HD, FullHD
> Interval: (intervals of: 2 sec., 5 sec., 10 sec., 20 sec., 30 sec., 1
> min., 5 min., 10 min., 30 min., and 1 hour.)
> Recording Time: HR:MIN:SEC
> Start Interval: (Now, or Set Time)
> If Start Interval = Set Time then Start Time can be set HR:MIN
>
> Interval Movie Mode results in an .AVI file. I believe you can pull
> that AVI file into your video editing software to speed it up further,
> if a clip is too long for your tastes.
>
> Here is an example someone took with a K-3:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGli2qH7ACM
>
> Example taken with a K-01:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9kwWLVErw=youtu.be
>
> As an aside, the K-01 is supposed to be GREAT at either type of
> time-lapse (movie or still composites) probably because it lacks a
> viewfinder (which would need to be covered) and mirror, so it delivers
> superb exposure control and even is said to handle night time to
> daylight transitions (and vice versa) with out the need to deflicker.
>
> It looks like most Pentax models since the K-01 and Q have this mode,
> though minor details may vary. For example, the minimum recording
> interval on a K-50 is 3 seconds (not 2).
>
> I'm looking forward to trying this out on both my K-3 II and the K-01.
>
> The downside to this movie mode (I believe) is that you don't have the
> individual frames any more, and you don't have an HDR option as you
> would if shooting intervals in still mode. So there are probably times
> when you would want to use one mode over the other. However, The great
> advantage to using the Interval Movie Mode (Movie > Interval Shooting)
> is that you don’t have to deal with the hundreds or thousands of
> individual high-res files in post-production to manually create the
> movie file.
>
> Hope someone else finds this interesting.
>
> Darren Addy
> Kearney, Nebraska
>
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Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST? Problem solved!

2017-03-28 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hallo Jos,

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:19:56 +0200 Jos de Fotograaf wrote:
>
>_Is DST in the GPS info itself?_

No 

>Some members suggested that the camera needs look-up tables to see DST data of 
>specific countries.
>I am not so sure about that.

You need either DST tables (combined with timezone info), OR manual setting of 
DST yes/no

>I did not get a clear answer from Google.
>But, GPS was designed for military purposes, it contains time information, so 
>why not also DST data?

The GPS sattelite(s) don't know where YOU are, they only send an encoded very 
exact TIME signal which can be received everywhere the sattelite is 'visible'

Your GPS device can then calculate its position by comparing time-differences
as received from multiple sattelites (closest sattelite is received first :)

The decoded time will be available to the GPS device this way, but it is UTC 
time.
The device needs to convert that to local time using timezone + DST information.

>For military on the ground it can be crucial to know the exact local time.
>Even when all other systems fail.

Yes, but the GPS only supplies UTC times.

BTW: In large scale military operations, they often use UTC times directly, 
it used to be called ZULU time, for ZERO deviation from the ZERO-meridian time 
:) 

>_Well, all together it took me a lot more time, than simply adapting the clock 
>manually! But I gained knowledge!

Indeed, I checked my K3, it did not have DST checked either (fixed now).

It is important to set that correctly, otherwise the 'Sync' done by the GPS 
unit will set 
the time wrong (since the conversion from UTC to local-time will be off by 1 
hour)

I have had that happening a few times, setting it manually, then seeing it 
change
automatically as soon as the GPS unit gets a proper connection :)

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Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST? Problem solved!

2017-03-28 Thread Jos de Fotograaf

_Problem solved!_

In the GPS/Compass menu I checked the "GPS time sync" box, I thought 
this should give automatic DST switching.


But in the "World time" menu, I have home town Amsterdam and destination 
Amsterdam, then if you go one menu deeper, there is a check box for DST.


Checking this box immediately switched the time to summertime!

_Why correct time with pictures matters for me

_From the group reactions I see that many members only care about the 
correct date._
_Often I take outdoor pictures with the position of the sun not optimal 
for preferred lighting.
For a remake later, I use the time to estimate how many hours earlier or 
later I have to be there.


_Is DST in the GPS info itself?_

Some members suggested that the camera needs look-up tables to see DST 
data of specific countries.

I am not so sure about that.
I did not get a clear answer from Google.
But, GPS was designed for military purposes, it contains time 
information, so why not also DST data?

For military on the ground it can be crucial to know the exact local time.
Even when all other systems fail.
_
_Well, all together it took me a lot more time, than simply adapting the 
clock manually! But I gained knowledge!

Thanks for all responds!
_
_
On 28-Mar-17 02:54, Zos Xavius wrote:

Yes it would use UTC most likely. I must add that none of my cameras
have ever transitioned to DST automatically. Maybe I am using it wrong
somehow? Ok. I just looked at my K-3 and though it was set to Chicago
as the city it never changed. It does have DST highlighted though next
to it so I'm confused frankly why it wouldn't kick over. Changing the
home city to NYC adjusted the time ahead one hour, but I think that is
just because I moved the time zone.

Yeah I set it to LA and it changed the time again. Toggling DST on and
off changes the time as well. I think you have to manually enable it.
I just have it on all the time and change my time as necessary. My K-3
was actually set to the wrong time. Not like it really matters to be
honest. I care far more about the date.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 4:38 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

Well, yes and no.  If you look at that standard Time/Date structure, (Gaud
this is getting into the weeds), if the software is using it correctly it's
stores UTC a flag and an offset to get the local time.  I assume that the OS
used by the camera includes a Time/Date object.  I also assume it stores the
Timestamp in the "standard" manner.  So yes it stores the data in UTC.



On 3/27/2017 4:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Yes, I know. That makes it not UTC.


On 27 Mar 2017, at 20:51, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

It pretty much is on UTC.  The current time zone is just an offset based
on the home city.



On 3/27/2017 3:39 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
If I had a camera that had gps I would just let it record everything as
UTC rather than try to account for different places. It makes life easier -
one less thing to clutter my head with. In fact even without gps I think I
just leave them on UTC.


On 27 Mar 2017, at 19:15, Jos de Fotograaf 
wrote:

Stan, your explanation of GPS sounds logic, thks.

The GPS is also used when shooting ASTRO, but I did not try that yet.

I will check with Ricoh/Pentax why there would be no DST timetable for
the Netherlands. As they should know US could be first but Netherlands are
second!

Anyhow, I will not wait for the software update, but change the time
manually.

Greetz, Jos


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