Stan:

Yep, the contradiction with the safety intents and regulations is evident.
I don't know how they are going to resolve that. Because the ion-batteries in the checked-in luggage is also a regulation... In the end, it might mean that if you flew, say on Turkish Airlines to Europe (or even Turkey) with your laptop or tablet (and you know how many laptops and tablet you can see on todays flight, especially the one across the pond?) and you are flying back, you might become a hostage of your own laptop when trying to board: You cannot check it in due to the battery, and you cannot take it in the carry-on.



It's interesting that Bloomberg.com thinks that the "laptop ban" might not be about security, but about protectionism. Whether that's correct or not, - I don't know, but it sounds consistent. Look at the references at the bottom of that article, - they mark the "money trail".

https://goo.gl/5TMloE
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-21/the-laptop-ban-and-what-it-means-for-air-travel-quicktake-q-a


Igor



 Stanley Halpin Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:15:05 -0700 wrote:

When I first read about the ban it gave me pause as well. Not least as it makes no sense in that it directly contradicts safety warnings about LiON batteries in checked bags.


But then I read a second time. It applies not to specific airlines, but rather to any flights by any airline that originate in one of x bad-guy countries and fly directly to the U.S. or U.K. It happens that no U.S. airlines have such routes, some U.K. airlines do. For the bad guys, this means that they will have to take connecting flights rather than direct flights if they want to cause trouble, and that extra hassle presumably will deter them. For the rest of us, so far the ban is irrelevant.

However, if/when it becomes more general, my plan is to keep my lenses and all batteries in my carry-on camera pack. I will carefully pack two camera bodies, one each in two different suitcases. Then check to verify insurance coverage, cross my fingers, and go.

stan


On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Since the most recent on the devices in the carry-on on certain airlines from some destination, I've been thinking that a few options for flying are no longer available for me. As far as I understand, in addition to the laptops, DSLRs (and any other cameras besides cellphones are prohibited in the carry-on as well. And as we've discussed before, it would be extremely risky to place a DSLR+lenses into a regular checked-in suitcase.

Two of the banned airlines have (or rather had) a potential for me flying their flights: Emirates and Turkish Airlines. I've never flown Emirates due to the routing/pricing, but always wanted because of their reputation. Turkish Airlines, on the other hand, offers competitive pricing for flying to Europe (connecting in Istambul), and since they are in the aliance with United, I've used them on a couple of trips recently, both business and personal.

It is interesting that Emirates just came up with a solution that *might* work:
(USA Today:)
https://goo.gl/G0HQrj
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/03/23/emirates-rolls-out-laptop-handling-service-response-ban/99543956/

With Turkish Airlines, whose Customer Service attitude is so "laid back" that it neglects "customer" and to some degree "service", - I am not sure if I would trust even such a solution. -- I mean I wouldn't be sure that my camera bag will not walk away between the gate and the cargo.

And then for any airline, there is airport ground operations personnel on the arrival to US.


Igor




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