Re: Nuts to Adobe
It's not deactivation that is the problem. The problem is that the activation does not stick. When I look in the Windows Registry, I see that the hard drive migration has generated an orphaned SID structure, which may be where the problem is. If my suspicion is right, the License key activation is cemented into that part of the registry, which is now robbed of its administrative rights, and thus can't validate properly. I am going to try a full reinstall of my Windows system, which probably is a good idea anyway for unrelated reasons. However if that fixes the problem, PS CS6 is still cumbersome to use on modern screens because the menu text and icons are tiny. Thanks for the warning on Corel licensing... Jostein Den 27.10.2018 03:21, skrev John: On 10/26/2018 16:43, Jostein wrote: After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC subscription is not an option. Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) Jostein If you activated CS6 when you originally installed it you should be able to find your product key in your Adobe "Account". I went through that my failed attempt to install the Windoze10 "upgrade" on my Photoshop computer & discovered that the Microsoft Windoze backup I made wouldn't restore. I ended up having to reinstall software from disk. Fortunately I had the disks. IIRC, I had to go on to Adobe's site to "deactivate" one instance of Photoshop on my computer before I could activate it on the same computer even though I was attempting to install it on the same computer it had already been installed on. It wouldn't let me enter my license key as long as it thought it was already installed on two computers. When I later switched over to SSD's it migrated with no hassle. Go figure. I've used Corel Paintshop Pro and found their licensing arrangements to be even less congenial than Adobe's. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
I dont know about CS6, Im still using CS2 which adobe offered totally free for a while on their website as a legacy solution. jco On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:21:55 -0400, John wrote: On 10/26/2018 16:43, Jostein wrote: After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC subscription is not an option. Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) Jostein If you activated CS6 when you originally installed it you should be able to find your product key in your Adobe "Account". I went through that my failed attempt to install the Windoze10 "upgrade" on my Photoshop computer & discovered that the Microsoft Windoze backup I made wouldn't restore. I ended up having to reinstall software from disk. Fortunately I had the disks. IIRC, I had to go on to Adobe's site to "deactivate" one instance of Photoshop on my computer before I could activate it on the same computer even though I was attempting to install it on the same computer it had already been installed on. It wouldn't let me enter my license key as long as it thought it was already installed on two computers. When I later switched over to SSD's it migrated with no hassle. Go figure. I've used Corel Paintshop Pro and found their licensing arrangements to be even less congenial than Adobe's. -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
Thanks P.J. The only reason that keeps me from playing with editors like RawTherapee, DxO, C1 (or Corel AfterShot, for that matter), is that they are not good DAMs. The true strength of Lightroom is exactly that. It combines good archiving, basic raw file editing, and good integration with specialist editors like Zerene Stacker for macro, Photomatix for HDR and Autopano for mosaics. It also supports management of images published to social media and my own website. The only piece in the puzzle that has fallen out is the _advanced_ image editing option. That's what I need a Photoshop replacement for. Jostein Den 27.10.2018 02:52, skrev P. J. Alling: Look into RawTherapee it does a nice job, and it's Free, well they ask for a donation, but it's essentially free. I did manage to crash it, but it does make nice renders. It also seems to support every current Camera. I'm not using it, but it's become my current backup if DxO Mark pisses me off as much as Adobe has. On 10/26/2018 4:43 PM, Jostein wrote: After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC subscription is not an option. Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
Jostein, I just have to say it: the best advanced editor available is Photoshop. After recent Mac OS X updates started to erode my CS5 enough to be troublesome, I finally gave in and subscribed to CC. It has been, for me, worthwhile. Lightroom integrates better with Ps, both are speedier, and Ps has seen some feature additions that are extremely useful and powerful for me. Time saved in retouching; more convincing and accurate editing -- especially in the area of selections -- and much better handling of huge 645Z files, for example. The Content Aware healing brush is magical. I was one of the last holdouts. My copy of CS5 and my old Lightroom owed me nothing. I strongly dislike the subscription model still, but I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face. Being a self-righteous dogmatic curmudgeon has its downsides. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:12 AM Jostein wrote: > Thanks P.J. > The only reason that keeps me from playing with editors like > RawTherapee, DxO, C1 (or Corel AfterShot, for that matter), is that they > are not good DAMs. The true strength of Lightroom is exactly that. It > combines good archiving, basic raw file editing, and good integration > with specialist editors like Zerene Stacker for macro, Photomatix for > HDR and Autopano for mosaics. It also supports management of images > published to social media and my own website. > > The only piece in the puzzle that has fallen out is the _advanced_ image > editing option. That's what I need a Photoshop replacement for. > > Jostein > > Den 27.10.2018 02:52, skrev P. J. Alling: > > Look into RawTherapee it does a nice job, and it's Free, well they ask > > for a donation, but it's essentially free. I did manage to crash it, > > but it does make nice renders. It also seems to support every current > > Camera. I'm not using it, but it's become my current backup if DxO Mark > > pisses me off as much as Adobe has. > > > > > > On 10/26/2018 4:43 PM, Jostein wrote: > >> After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept > >> nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All > >> online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. > >> > >> So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the > >> UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC > >> subscription is not an option. > >> > >> Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? > >> - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) > >> > >> Jostein > >> > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
LOL... I'd like to think that I'm more prone to pragmatism than to curmudgeonry, but well... :-) Aside from bitching, my reasoning is that if I need to upgrade, I might as well consider the competition. The price for Photoshop has always been a bit steep for the way I use it. I made my last upgrade while doing some university courses and got the educational discount but with the subscription I can't get away with anything like that. Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for. The new features you mention are nice, of course, but not really on my must-have list. :-) Jostein Den 27. oktober 2018 11.22.37 CEST, skrev Bruce Walker : >Jostein, I just have to say it: the best advanced editor available is >Photoshop. > >After recent Mac OS X updates started to erode my CS5 enough to be >troublesome, I finally gave in and subscribed to CC. It has been, for >me, >worthwhile. Lightroom integrates better with Ps, both are speedier, and >Ps >has seen some feature additions that are extremely useful and powerful >for >me. Time saved in retouching; more convincing and accurate editing -- >especially in the area of selections -- and much better handling of >huge >645Z files, for example. The Content Aware healing brush is magical. > >I was one of the last holdouts. My copy of CS5 and my old Lightroom >owed me >nothing. I strongly dislike the subscription model still, but I'm not >going >to cut off my nose to spite my face. Being a self-righteous dogmatic >curmudgeon has its downsides. > > >On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:12 AM Jostein wrote: > >> Thanks P.J. >> The only reason that keeps me from playing with editors like >> RawTherapee, DxO, C1 (or Corel AfterShot, for that matter), is that >they >> are not good DAMs. The true strength of Lightroom is exactly that. It >> combines good archiving, basic raw file editing, and good integration >> with specialist editors like Zerene Stacker for macro, Photomatix for >> HDR and Autopano for mosaics. It also supports management of images >> published to social media and my own website. >> >> The only piece in the puzzle that has fallen out is the _advanced_ >image >> editing option. That's what I need a Photoshop replacement for. >> >> Jostein >> >> Den 27.10.2018 02:52, skrev P. J. Alling: >> > Look into RawTherapee it does a nice job, and it's Free, well they >ask >> > for a donation, but it's essentially free. I did manage to crash >it, >> > but it does make nice renders. It also seems to support every >current >> > Camera. I'm not using it, but it's become my current backup if DxO >Mark >> > pisses me off as much as Adobe has. >> > >> > >> > On 10/26/2018 4:43 PM, Jostein wrote: >> >> After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has >kept >> >> nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All >> >> online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. >> >> >> >> So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and >the >> >> UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC >> >> subscription is not an option. >> >> >> >> Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? >> >> - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) >> >> >> >> Jostein >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and >> follow the directions. >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
Thanks for that, JCO, I have licenses for both CS4 and 6, so hopefully I don't need to regress that far. Jostein Den 27. oktober 2018 11.03.15 CEST, skrev "J.C. O'Connell" : >I dont know about CS6, Im still using CS2 which adobe offered totally > >free for a while >on their website as a legacy solution. >jco > > > >On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:21:55 -0400, John wrote: > >> On 10/26/2018 16:43, Jostein wrote: >>> After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has >kept >>> nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All >>> online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. >>> So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and >the >>> UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC >>> subscription is not an option. >>> Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? >>> - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) >>> Jostein >>> >> >> If you activated CS6 when you originally installed it you should be >able >> to find your product key in your Adobe "Account". >> >> I went through that my failed attempt to install the Windoze10 >"upgrade" >> on my Photoshop computer & discovered that the Microsoft Windoze >backup >> I made wouldn't restore. I ended up having to reinstall software from > >> disk. >> >> Fortunately I had the disks. >> >> IIRC, I had to go on to Adobe's site to "deactivate" one instance of > >> Photoshop on my computer before I could activate it on the same >computer >> even though I was attempting to install it on the same computer it >had >> already been installed on. >> >> It wouldn't let me enter my license key as long as it thought it was > >> already installed on two computers. >> >> When I later switched over to SSD's it migrated with no hassle. Go >> figure. >> >> I've used Corel Paintshop Pro and found their licensing arrangements >to >> be even less congenial than Adobe's. >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
I will eventually subscribe to CC although CS6 is still working for me. However, I’ve read that it has problems with the latest version of OSX. So I will eventually be left behind if I don’t upgrade Paul > On Oct 27, 2018, at 7:03 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > > LOL... > I'd like to think that I'm more prone to pragmatism than to curmudgeonry, but > well... :-) > Aside from bitching, my reasoning is that if I need to upgrade, I might as > well consider the competition. The price for Photoshop has always been a bit > steep for the way I use it. I made my last upgrade while doing some > university courses and got the educational discount but with the subscription > I can't get away with anything like that. > Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they > can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for. > The new features you mention are nice, of course, but not really on my > must-have list. :-) > Jostein > > > > Den 27. oktober 2018 11.22.37 CEST, skrev Bruce Walker > : >> Jostein, I just have to say it: the best advanced editor available is >> Photoshop. >> >> After recent Mac OS X updates started to erode my CS5 enough to be >> troublesome, I finally gave in and subscribed to CC. It has been, for >> me, >> worthwhile. Lightroom integrates better with Ps, both are speedier, and >> Ps >> has seen some feature additions that are extremely useful and powerful >> for >> me. Time saved in retouching; more convincing and accurate editing -- >> especially in the area of selections -- and much better handling of >> huge >> 645Z files, for example. The Content Aware healing brush is magical. >> >> I was one of the last holdouts. My copy of CS5 and my old Lightroom >> owed me >> nothing. I strongly dislike the subscription model still, but I'm not >> going >> to cut off my nose to spite my face. Being a self-righteous dogmatic >> curmudgeon has its downsides. >> >> >>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:12 AM Jostein wrote: >>> >>> Thanks P.J. >>> The only reason that keeps me from playing with editors like >>> RawTherapee, DxO, C1 (or Corel AfterShot, for that matter), is that >> they >>> are not good DAMs. The true strength of Lightroom is exactly that. It >>> combines good archiving, basic raw file editing, and good integration >>> with specialist editors like Zerene Stacker for macro, Photomatix for >>> HDR and Autopano for mosaics. It also supports management of images >>> published to social media and my own website. >>> >>> The only piece in the puzzle that has fallen out is the _advanced_ >> image >>> editing option. That's what I need a Photoshop replacement for. >>> >>> Jostein >>> >>> Den 27.10.2018 02:52, skrev P. J. Alling: Look into RawTherapee it does a nice job, and it's Free, well they >> ask for a donation, but it's essentially free. I did manage to crash >> it, but it does make nice renders. It also seems to support every >> current Camera. I'm not using it, but it's become my current backup if DxO >> Mark pisses me off as much as Adobe has. > On 10/26/2018 4:43 PM, Jostein wrote: > After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has >> kept > nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All > online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. > > So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and >> the > UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC > subscription is not an option. > > Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? > - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) > > Jostein > >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and >>> follow the directions. >>> > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
MARK! On 10/27/2018 5:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Being a self-righteous dogmatic curmudgeon has its downsides. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Nuts to Adobe part II
So I bit the bullet and reinstalled Windows from a clean and scrubbed drive. Lo and behold, all Adobe license numbers stick, and Lightroom runs smoothly with the original database. There's still the issue of the ageing GUI of Photoshop CS6, but now at least I have time to reflect and perhaps test the other candidates with low shoulders and no pressure. Thanks to all for their input. Food for thought. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
Am 27.10.18 um 13:22 schrieb Paul Stenquist: I will eventually subscribe to CC although CS6 is still working for me. However, I’ve read that it has problems with the latest version of OSX. So I will eventually be left behind if I don’t upgrade I'm admittedly more than a little fed up with this eternal treadmill of software, OS and hardware updates. Just bought another Macbook Pro because Apple had decided the old one wasn't good enough for Sierra. Yesterday, I had to find out that the app for controlling my new audio recorder would require an iOS update that Apple won't let me have for my current iPad. Enough already! In the 1970's, the German political left coined the term "Konsumterror" for the permanent pressure to consume in a capitalist society. Little did they know... I for one won't be buying into any of Adobe's CC stuff. Instead it might at last give me a good reason to get rid of Adobe/Apple altogether and switch to Linux. Am I sounding frustrated? Well, maybe I am. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
what happened to me was I bought a copy of PS 6.0 nos and when I tried to activate it the adobe server was no longer available for it and they offered CS2 for free on their website as a solution. jco On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 07:08:21 -0400, Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks for that, JCO, I have licenses for both CS4 and 6, so hopefully I don't need to regress that far. Jostein Den 27. oktober 2018 11.03.15 CEST, skrev "J.C. O'Connell" : I dont know about CS6, Im still using CS2 which adobe offered totally free for a while on their website as a legacy solution. jco On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:21:55 -0400, John wrote: On 10/26/2018 16:43, Jostein wrote: After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC subscription is not an option. Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) Jostein If you activated CS6 when you originally installed it you should be able to find your product key in your Adobe "Account". I went through that my failed attempt to install the Windoze10 "upgrade" on my Photoshop computer & discovered that the Microsoft Windoze backup I made wouldn't restore. I ended up having to reinstall software from disk. Fortunately I had the disks. IIRC, I had to go on to Adobe's site to "deactivate" one instance of Photoshop on my computer before I could activate it on the same computer even though I was attempting to install it on the same computer it had already been installed on. It wouldn't let me enter my license key as long as it thought it was already installed on two computers. When I later switched over to SSD's it migrated with no hassle. Go figure. I've used Corel Paintshop Pro and found their licensing arrangements to be even less congenial than Adobe's. -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne wrote: > > Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they > can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for. I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these products are going after the Lightroom market, many with the addition (illusion) of layers. You will not find the rich feature set and general image processing capabilities of even Ps CS2 in them. And if you have any plugins, like Nik, they won't work. Little finesses like "flow" for brushes is missing from the only app I know that manages to clone many (though not even 25% of) Photoshop's features: The Gimp. I searched for and tested a lot of software after Adobe went subscription with the goal of replacing Lr and Ps. I gave up. I need the power of both of them. If you don't then I suggest trying The Gimp as it's free, multi-platform, and quite powerful. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne wrote: >> >> Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they >> can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for. > >I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these >products are going after the Lightroom market Affinity Photo is not going after Lightroom, it's definitely a Photoshop replacement. I have it and it's *very* good. Probably a step up from Photoshop CS6. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe part II
If you run Win10 on high dpi displays: Right click on the program icon and select properties > Compatibility and last Change high DPI settings. Try all combo's and one of them should result in a larger GUI in photoshop On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 15:41, Jostein wrote: > So I bit the bullet and reinstalled Windows from a clean and scrubbed > drive. > > Lo and behold, all Adobe license numbers stick, and Lightroom runs > smoothly with the original database. > > There's still the issue of the ageing GUI of Photoshop CS6, but now at > least I have time to reflect and perhaps test the other candidates with > low shoulders and no pressure. > > Thanks to all for their input. Food for thought. > > Jostein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
CS6 has a problem? Or the latest version of OS X has a problem with CS6? If it's the latter, I expect it will eventually get fixed. Apple, for all their faults, does occasionally listen to their users. Rarely maybe, but it does happen. I'm still using CS6 with no problems, but I'm a Windoze guy. I was one of those "upgrade every odd numbered version" users. I was on CS5 when CC was announced and felt I needed to move up to the latest version JUST IN CASE. It was particularly painful because I wasn't able to find a plain vanilla CS6 upgrade at the time and had to upgrade to the Extended Edition. The upgrade price for that (from plain vanilla CS5) was as much as I originally paid for Photoshop CS. My one foray into Lightroom was a disaster. Aside from the installation SNAFU, I never could get it to put the photos where I wanted them (on my dedicated PHOTO hard-drive in folders MMDD-Job_Name). Bridge does that with no fuss. Still don't want to rent Photoshop, so I'm sticking with CS6 for as long as I can. On 10/27/2018 07:22, Paul Stenquist wrote: I will eventually subscribe to CC although CS6 is still working for me. However, I’ve read that it has problems with the latest version of OSX. So I will eventually be left behind if I don’t upgrade Paul On Oct 27, 2018, at 7:03 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: LOL... I'd like to think that I'm more prone to pragmatism than to curmudgeonry, but well... :-) Aside from bitching, my reasoning is that if I need to upgrade, I might as well consider the competition. The price for Photoshop has always been a bit steep for the way I use it. I made my last upgrade while doing some university courses and got the educational discount but with the subscription I can't get away with anything like that. Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for. The new features you mention are nice, of course, but not really on my must-have list. :-) Jostein Den 27. oktober 2018 11.22.37 CEST, skrev Bruce Walker : Jostein, I just have to say it: the best advanced editor available is Photoshop. After recent Mac OS X updates started to erode my CS5 enough to be troublesome, I finally gave in and subscribed to CC. It has been, for me, worthwhile. Lightroom integrates better with Ps, both are speedier, and Ps has seen some feature additions that are extremely useful and powerful for me. Time saved in retouching; more convincing and accurate editing -- especially in the area of selections -- and much better handling of huge 645Z files, for example. The Content Aware healing brush is magical. I was one of the last holdouts. My copy of CS5 and my old Lightroom owed me nothing. I strongly dislike the subscription model still, but I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face. Being a self-righteous dogmatic curmudgeon has its downsides. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:12 AM Jostein wrote: Thanks P.J. The only reason that keeps me from playing with editors like RawTherapee, DxO, C1 (or Corel AfterShot, for that matter), is that they are not good DAMs. The true strength of Lightroom is exactly that. It combines good archiving, basic raw file editing, and good integration with specialist editors like Zerene Stacker for macro, Photomatix for HDR and Autopano for mosaics. It also supports management of images published to social media and my own website. The only piece in the puzzle that has fallen out is the _advanced_ image editing option. That's what I need a Photoshop replacement for. Jostein Den 27.10.2018 02:52, skrev P. J. Alling: Look into RawTherapee it does a nice job, and it's Free, well they ask for a donation, but it's essentially free. I did manage to crash it, but it does make nice renders. It also seems to support every current Camera. I'm not using it, but it's become my current backup if DxO Mark pisses me off as much as Adobe has. On 10/26/2018 4:43 PM, Jostein wrote: After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail. So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC subscription is not an option. Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) Jostein -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
On 10/27/2018 11:30, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne wrote: Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for. I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these products are going after the Lightroom market Affinity Photo is not going after Lightroom, it's definitely a Photoshop replacement. I have it and it's *very* good. Probably a step up from Photoshop CS6. What about the plugins? Do Nik filters work with Affinity Photo? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
On 10/27/2018 05:03, J.C. O'Connell wrote: I dont know about CS6, Im still using CS2 which adobe offered totally free for a while on their website as a legacy solution. jco I got a free upgrade to "CS2" from Adobe, but only because I bought the shrink-wrap version of "CS" a week before "CS2" came on the market. As far as I can tell, it's the last time Adobe decided to "do the right thing" by their users. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe part II
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 07:35:20PM +0200, Toine wrote: > If you run Win10 on high dpi displays: Right click on the program icon and > select properties > Compatibility and last Change high DPI settings. Try > all combo's and one of them should result in a larger GUI in photoshop It probably won't. Adobe don't use most of the Windows infrastructure for their products - they do almost everything themselves directly into the framebuffer using low-level graphics primitives. That's why I switched to Photoshop Elements 15 (and Acrobat Reader DC) when I got a 4K notebook - while almost everything else displayed readable text when the primary display was set to 200% scaling, older Adobe products (Elements 13, Adobe Reader XI) insisted on drawing GUI text at an unreadably small size. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
What about the plugins? Do Nik filters work with Affinity Photo? Yes. (At least the previous versions do.) -- The Office Gallery - Scenic and Landscape Photography by Steve Sharpe 24 Maple Avenue Ellershouse NS B0N 1L0 d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nuts to Adobe
I've had Affinity Photo on my iPad Pro for a year or so, only started using it recently. It's quite a good raw converter and, overall, a good replacement for the Photoshop clan of image manipulation tools. The iOS version has some image management capabilities, but it's no competition for Lightroom in that sphere. The UI is a little busy for the iPad (the SnapSeed UI is much more user friendly, for instance) but it works well. I binned Photoshop CS5.1 on my desktop Mac mini when I upgraded to macOS Mojave, so purchased Affinity Photo for macOS as well. Here the UI works better and the tools seem more natural. I did some comparisons between LR 6.14 and Affinity Photo raw output, at the defaults, using raw files from the Leica CL, M-D, and SL. All the LR renderings were using the Adobe Standard ccp for the specific camera, and the first image was an exposure test target and an Xrite Color Checker. The image files were about as close to identical as I've ever seen out of two different raw converters with respect to color rendering. Second image was a continuous tone landscape image with some significant contrast, but lots of details both near the highlight and dark point thresholds. Very close on the defaults again, but here I think Affinity Photo has very slightly better sharpness and tonal separation. Of course, I'm still a novice at AP use, and I'm reasonably proficient with LR use. And I didn't want to prejudice the case in either direction by trying to see what replicating some of my more pathological LR edits might be with AP at this point. But overall, I'm pretty happy that it's a very usable app on both iPad and Mac, and can easily do more than I need to replace Photoshop entirely. I haven't used PS very much for years, and I did find the AP UI much easier to pick up and learn new (once a couple of key concepts were gathered) than trying to remember how PS worked. For LR's image management, and the way I can create templates for printing, etc, I haven't found anything inexpensive that does as good a job yet. But I haven't really looked that hard just yet either. G — "Simplify, simplify, simplify.” ~ Henry David Thoreau "One 'simplify' would have sufficed." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson > On Oct 26, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Jostein wrote: > > After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept nagging > me for its license key every time I open the program. All online suggestions > for fixing have been tried to no avail. > > So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the UI > does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC subscription is > not an option. > > Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo? > - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-) > > Jostein > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
4k Monitors
So, say that theoretically I was thinking about buying a 4k monitor ... What buzzwords do I need to check off? Needs to be Windoze7 compatible. I expect I'll also need a new video card to drive it, so anything you want to add about that would be welcome as well. I'm looking for something in the 32" range. It will be used 99% for Photoshop since I don't do any gaming on that computer. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 4k Monitors
Ips, I picked up what seamed too be a nice 4k, but it turned out to be tn and just didn't work well for photography On October 27, 2018 6:10:33 PM PDT, John wrote: >So, say that theoretically I was thinking about buying a 4k monitor ... > >What buzzwords do I need to check off? > >Needs to be Windoze7 compatible. I expect I'll also need a new video >card to >drive it, so anything you want to add about that would be welcome as >well. > >I'm looking for something in the 32" range. It will be used 99% for >Photoshop >since I don't do any gaming on that computer. > >-- >Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >Religion - Answers we must never question. > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 4k Monitors
IPS as Larry has already said, there are other technologies that will give as good results but they are not as common, and tend to be more expensive, and wide gamut, unless you're willing to put up with less than the entire RGB color space. You might also look for Adobe RGB support, though that's probably less important. TN will work but depending on the implementation and lets face it most are as low quality as they can get away with, there will be color shifts, sometimes radial color shifts from different viewing angles. Personally, I don't think that 4K gives you that much for the additional cost, unless you're doing super critical work. Hell right now I'm limping along on my backup monitor, or more properly, one of my two backup monitors. It's one of the better implementations of TN that I've seen, and it's at this point very old, it just seems the older technology lasts, my much newer "better" LCD monitor, simply crapped out, and it's cheaper to replace than get repaired if it could be repaired at all. On 10/27/2018 9:10 PM, John wrote: So, say that theoretically I was thinking about buying a 4k monitor ... What buzzwords do I need to check off? Needs to be Windoze7 compatible. I expect I'll also need a new video card to drive it, so anything you want to add about that would be welcome as well. I'm looking for something in the 32" range. It will be used 99% for Photoshop since I don't do any gaming on that computer. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
