Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Alan C
Wooden theodolite tripods are relatively cheap but weigh close to 20lbs. 
The old Pentax M42 1000mm f8 came with something like this.


http://www.surveysupplyinc.com/seco-birch-hardwood-tripod-dual-locks/

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 10:46 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 13.11.18 um 07:26 schrieb Larry Colen:
My tripod has disappeared. I've searched the house and cars several 
times and can't find it anyplace. I've got a really bad feeling that 
I set it down and neglected to pick it up when the wave at Perpetua 
kicked my ass around the block.


It was a Manfrotto carbon fiber base with and Induro BH3 ballhead.


My house has been declared off limits for Manfrotto tripods, many 
years ago. They all wobble in the wind when I use them near the North 
Sea. Their legs bend around the vertical axis of the tripod. I call it 
the Manfrotto Twist.


Get yourself a decent wooden tripod. Something like this:

https://www.berlebach.de/?bereich=details&id=303&sprache=english

That's the model I've been using for the last 15 years. It lives in 
the boot of my car all year and I wouldn't want anything else.


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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread lrc
We carved our knitting needles out of sabertooth fangs, which was really tough 
because they were still using them.

On November 13, 2018 3:51:47 PM PST, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>On 14/11/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one
>from 
>>wood wool.
>
>You had knitting needles!! Oh how I wished for knitting needles. I
>tried for years to knit my pallets into a tripod using toothpicks,
>except  we didn't have any toothpicks either
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread lrc
For that money it should come with one of Bruce's models to carry it around on 
long hikes.

On November 13, 2018 3:45:05 PM PST, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>Here you go, Larry. Such a deal!
>https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1343400-REG/gitzo_gk100t_100_year_anniversary_edition.html
>
>Paul
>
>> On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Ralf R Radermacher 
>wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 13.11.18 um 23:08 schrieb Mark Roberts:
>>> 
>>> When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
>>> out of discarded pallet wood and forge our ball heads from scrap
>metal
>>> scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...
>> 
>> Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one
>from wood wool.
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
That url doesn’t seem to work. I really would like this but probably don’t need 
it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1343400-REG/gitzo_gk100t_100_year_anniversary_edition.html/amp/

Paul

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Here you go, Larry. Such a deal! 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1343400-REG/gitzo_gk100t_100_year_anniversary_edition.html
> 
> Paul
> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 13.11.18 um 23:08 schrieb Mark Roberts:
>>> 
>>> When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
>>> out of discarded pallet wood and forge our ball heads from scrap metal
>>> scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...
>> 
>> Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from wood 
>> wool.
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/11/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from 
>wood wool.

You had knitting needles!! Oh how I wished for knitting needles. I tried for 
years to knit my pallets into a tripod using toothpicks, except  we didn't have 
any toothpicks either

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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Here you go, Larry. Such a deal! 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1343400-REG/gitzo_gk100t_100_year_anniversary_edition.html

Paul

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> Am 13.11.18 um 23:08 schrieb Mark Roberts:
>> 
>> When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
>> out of discarded pallet wood and forge our ball heads from scrap metal
>> scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...
> 
> Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from wood 
> wool.
> 
> Ralf
> 
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Re: GESO Broken Shades

2018-11-13 Thread ann sanfedele

Just to be clear, Igor - you don't at all understand my point of view ...

I think, however, Larry does :-)

ann

On 11/13/2018 5:23 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



These photos tell a story, even if some of them are not perfect as
stand-alone photographs.
And I agree with Ann about that B&W portrait: it stands on its own.

I know that type of challenging light quite well: it is very popular 
in the blues and jazz/swing music/dance community. So, I appreciate the

challenges and the outcome.

Now, Ann's comment about purple people eaters raised in my mind the old
debate about how the photos reflect what we see/saw in real life.

When we have an incandescent light and yellowish faces, we are trying 
to compensate for that yellow cast (filters and probably some film 
processing in the era of film photography, or color balance for digital).

But the people do look under that light as if they had jaundice.
It's just that our brain corrects/compensates for that in real time.

So, the question is: should or should we not compensate for that
while taking the photos (filters/color balance/...) or in 
post-processing?

The same question applies to recording a video.
After all, in many situations (these days, when different color lights 
are available), - people purposely choose "warm light" (2700K) to create

a certain mood.


And now, for the purple/coquelicot/smaragdine/mikado/glaucous/fulvous 
lights: They do create a certain atmosphere. So, why we do not get 
shocked seeing those glaucous faces in the room, but many people get 
the reaction like that of Ann's by any face color short of sarcoline 
in the photos? Those colors in the photos should reflect the "real" 
look of that room and people in it and convey that mood. Right?



Cheers,

Igor

PS. I am not being critical of Ann's reaction, I understand it.
Rather, I am thinking out loud about the interesting effect our
brain plays on us. These thoughts are also a followup to the
previous conversation about "truthful" images in photography.

PPS. Strange color names? Look them up! ;-)



Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:40:24 -0800 wrote:



ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM:


    To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple 
people eaters yikes



The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very 
challenging. You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you 
don't blow out one of the channels, even if you aren't going to try to 
bring things back to "normal"




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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 13.11.18 um 23:08 schrieb Mark Roberts:


When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
out of discarded pallet wood and forge our ball heads from scrap metal
scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...


Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from 
wood wool.


Ralf

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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread P. J. Alling

Well, I did say relatively inexpensive.


On 11/13/2018 3:19 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


There are tripods that are sturdy, light, and inexpensive.
Pick any two.
:-)

Igor




P. J. Alling Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:01:16 -0800 wrote:

I'm sorry Larry, I wish I had a good suggestion for you, but I too am 
in need of a decent tripod.



My search for one that is a.) of good quality, that will support the 
weight of a DSLR and a moderately heavy tele lens b.) light enough 
that I won't leave it behind, and c.) relatively inexpensive has 
proved fruitless so far.  The closest I've come was visiting the last 
local full service camera store, and I happened in on a manufactures day.



IIRC the Manfrotto rep. had a lightish weight aluminum field/studio 
unit with a very nice ball head, as a show special for about 1/3 
regular price. A great deal but beyond my budget at the time.



Haven't seen a deal that good since.




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Re: GESO Broken Shades

2018-11-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR




These photos tell a story, even if some of them are not perfect as
stand-alone photographs.
And I agree with Ann about that B&W portrait: it stands on its own.

I know that type of challenging light quite well: it is very popular in 
the blues and jazz/swing music/dance community. So, I appreciate the

challenges and the outcome.

Now, Ann's comment about purple people eaters raised in my mind the old
debate about how the photos reflect what we see/saw in real life.

When we have an incandescent light and yellowish faces, we are trying to 
compensate for that yellow cast (filters and probably some film processing 
in the era of film photography, or color balance for digital).

But the people do look under that light as if they had jaundice.
It's just that our brain corrects/compensates for that in real time.

So, the question is: should or should we not compensate for that
while taking the photos (filters/color balance/...) or in post-processing?
The same question applies to recording a video.
After all, in many situations (these days, when different color lights are 
available), - people purposely choose "warm light" (2700K) to create

a certain mood.


And now, for the purple/coquelicot/smaragdine/mikado/glaucous/fulvous 
lights: They do create a certain atmosphere. So, why we do not get shocked 
seeing those glaucous faces in the room, but many people get the reaction 
like that of Ann's by any face color short of sarcoline in the photos? 
Those colors in the photos should reflect the "real" look of that room and 
people in it and convey that mood. Right?



Cheers,

Igor

PS. I am not being critical of Ann's reaction, I understand it.
Rather, I am thinking out loud about the interesting effect our
brain plays on us. These thoughts are also a followup to the
previous conversation about "truthful" images in photography.

PPS. Strange color names? Look them up! ;-)



Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:40:24 -0800 wrote:



ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM:


To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people 
eaters yikes



The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very challenging. 
You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you don't blow out one 
of the channels, even if you aren't going to try to bring things back to 
"normal"


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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Mark Roberts
l...@red4est.com wrote:

>One thing I can always count on this list for is people bragging about how 
>crappy their gear is.

When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
out of discarded pallet wood and forge our ball heads from scrap metal
scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...
 
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 10:16 AM 11/13/2018, Bruce Walker wrote:

>In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up using it. 
>When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

I carry one stashed under the rear seat in my Explorer. The camera bag comes 
with me when I go back into the house, but the tripod stays. I have a couple of 
older, cheaper tripods in the house if I need one indoors. If I need a small 
tripod the Manfrotto tabletop tripod is always in the bag. I also usually have 
a monopod in the Explorer.

Dale H. Cook, many years as 35mm SLR photographer,
now Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking-
around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens  


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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread lrc
Yeah, I actually own three of them.

On November 13, 2018 1:09:08 PM PST, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
>Larry,
>
>I suspect it is not what you are looking for, - but just in case:
>A very sturdy "budget" tripod that I've used for many years is the 
>original (aluminum!) Tiltall tripod.
>They are available on e-bay for various amounts, typically in the range
>of 
>$30-100, but I see one right now at $25:
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Tiltall-Model-4602-Aluminum-Pro-Tripod/312302563889?epid=101639351&hash=item48b6aef231:g:UzcAAOSwVH5bnpMT:rk:1:pf:0
>
>They require some time to set up (not a fast lock mechanism for the 
>telescoping legs), and your hands would not be the cleanest after 
>handling that aluminum. But they are capable of holding a DSLR with a 
>heavy lens.
>(Originally, I bought it for ZX-5n with Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8
>and
>with Tamron 70-300, but then used with K7 and K5 with 50-135 and
>60-250)
>
>Reportedly, the later models (titanium?) Tiltall tripods are not as 
>sturdy.
>
> but it seems to me that we might have discussed Tiltall's with you
>on 
>some occasion, long time ago.
>
>
>HTH,
>
>Igor
>
>
>
>Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 22:27:54 -0800 wrote:
>
>My tripod has disappeared. I've searched the house and cars several
>times 
>and can't find it anyplace. I've got a really bad feeling that I set it
>
>down and neglected to pick it up when the wave at Perpetua kicked my
>ass 
>around the block.
>
>
>It was a Manfrotto carbon fiber base with and Induro BH3 ballhead.
>
>
>It was at the low end of the performance I need for my astro
>landscapes, 
>and replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford.
>Are 
>there any amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Larry,

I suspect it is not what you are looking for, - but just in case:
A very sturdy "budget" tripod that I've used for many years is the 
original (aluminum!) Tiltall tripod.
They are available on e-bay for various amounts, typically in the range of 
$30-100, but I see one right now at $25:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Tiltall-Model-4602-Aluminum-Pro-Tripod/312302563889?epid=101639351&hash=item48b6aef231:g:UzcAAOSwVH5bnpMT:rk:1:pf:0

They require some time to set up (not a fast lock mechanism for the 
telescoping legs), and your hands would not be the cleanest after 
handling that aluminum. But they are capable of holding a DSLR with a 
heavy lens.

(Originally, I bought it for ZX-5n with Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8 and
with Tamron 70-300, but then used with K7 and K5 with 50-135 and 60-250)

Reportedly, the later models (titanium?) Tiltall tripods are not as 
sturdy.


 but it seems to me that we might have discussed Tiltall's with you on 
some occasion, long time ago.



HTH,

Igor



Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 22:27:54 -0800 wrote:

My tripod has disappeared. I've searched the house and cars several times 
and can't find it anyplace. I've got a really bad feeling that I set it 
down and neglected to pick it up when the wave at Perpetua kicked my ass 
around the block.



It was a Manfrotto carbon fiber base with and Induro BH3 ballhead.


It was at the low end of the performance I need for my astro landscapes, 
and replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford. Are 
there any amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?


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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 13.11.18 um 07:26 schrieb Larry Colen:
My tripod has disappeared. I've searched the house and cars several 
times and can't find it anyplace. I've got a really bad feeling that I 
set it down and neglected to pick it up when the wave at Perpetua kicked 
my ass around the block.


It was a Manfrotto carbon fiber base with and Induro BH3 ballhead.


My house has been declared off limits for Manfrotto tripods, many years 
ago. They all wobble in the wind when I use them near the North Sea. 
Their legs bend around the vertical axis of the tripod. I call it the 
Manfrotto Twist.


Get yourself a decent wooden tripod. Something like this:

https://www.berlebach.de/?bereich=details&id=303&sprache=english

That's the model I've been using for the last 15 years. It lives in the 
boot of my car all year and I wouldn't want anything else.


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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread P. J. Alling

Well, more or less.


On 11/13/2018 1:30 PM, John wrote:

Hopefully, you at least know where the car is.

On 11/13/2018 12:01, P. J. Alling wrote:
Well I don't have that problem, my crappy tripod is in the car, of 
course I have no idea at this point where any of the plates are...



On 11/13/2018 10:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling 
 wrote:

I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless
you left all of the them at home.


On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:

Touchè

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600 


The one I made is sturdier:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157619815658015









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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR



There are tripods that are sturdy, light, and inexpensive.
Pick any two.
:-)

Igor




P. J. Alling Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:01:16 -0800 wrote:

I'm sorry Larry, I wish I had a good suggestion for you, but I too am in 
need of a decent tripod.



My search for one that is a.) of good quality, that will support the 
weight of a DSLR and a moderately heavy tele lens b.) light enough that I 
won't leave it behind, and c.) relatively inexpensive has proved fruitless 
so far.  The closest I've come was visiting the last local full service 
camera store, and I happened in on a manufactures day.



IIRC the Manfrotto rep. had a lightish weight aluminum field/studio unit 
with a very nice ball head, as a show special for about 1/3 regular price. 
A great deal but beyond my budget at the time.



Haven't seen a deal that good since.


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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread John

Hopefully, you at least know where the car is.

On 11/13/2018 12:01, P. J. Alling wrote:
Well I don't have that problem, my crappy tripod is in the car, of course I have 
no idea at this point where any of the plates are...



On 11/13/2018 10:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling  wrote:

I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless
you left all of the them at home.


On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:

Touchè

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600 


The one I made is sturdier:
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread John

On 11/13/2018 01:26, Larry Colen wrote:
My tripod has disappeared. I've searched the house and cars several times and 
can't find it anyplace. I've got a really bad feeling that I set it down and 
neglected to pick it up when the wave at Perpetua kicked my ass around the block.


It was a Manfrotto carbon fiber base with and Induro BH3 ballhead.

It was at the low end of the performance I need for my astro landscapes, and 
replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford. Are there any 
amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?


Any decent comparison charts between different brands and models?



If the location is a state park or a national park or ..., it might be worth 
looking it up on-line to find a contact number and giving them a call to see if 
they have a lost & found. If it didn't get washed out to sea, it might have been 
found and turned in.


I lost a tripod once at a state park & some kind soul turned it in, so I was 
able to go back and get it on my next trip.


Also, it's a good idea to have a tag of some sort with contact information on 
your gear. If I found a tripod tagged with a name & phone number, I'd give 'em a 
call to see about getting it back to them.



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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm sorry Larry, I wish I had a good suggestion for you, but I too am in 
need of a decent tripod.


My search for one that is a.) of good quality, that will support the 
weight of a DSLR and a moderately heavy tele lens b.) light enough that 
I won't leave it behind, and c.) relatively inexpensive has proved 
fruitless so far.  The closest I've come was visiting the last local 
full service camera store, and I happened in on a manufactures day.


IIRC the Manfrotto rep. had a lightish weight aluminum field/studio unit 
with a very nice ball head, as a show special for about 1/3 regular 
price.  A great deal but beyond my budget at the time.


Haven't seen a deal that good since.


On 11/13/2018 12:23 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

One thing I can always count on this list for is people bragging about how 
crappy their gear is.


On November 13, 2018 9:01:45 AM PST, "P. J. Alling" 
 wrote:

Well I don't have that problem, my crappy tripod is in the car, of
course I have no idea at this point where any of the plates are...


On 11/13/2018 10:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling

 wrote:

I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you.

Unless

you left all of the them at home.


On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:

Touchè

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:

https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600

The one I made is sturdier:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157619815658015




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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread lrc
One thing I can always count on this list for is people bragging about how 
crappy their gear is.


On November 13, 2018 9:01:45 AM PST, "P. J. Alling" 
 wrote:
>Well I don't have that problem, my crappy tripod is in the car, of 
>course I have no idea at this point where any of the plates are...
>
>
>On 11/13/2018 10:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
>> using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling
> wrote:
>>> I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you.
>Unless
>>> you left all of the them at home.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
 tripod is the one you left at home.


 On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:
> Touchè
>
> Alan C
>
>
> On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
>>>
>https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600
>> The one I made is sturdier:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157619815658015
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Well I don't have that problem, my crappy tripod is in the car, of 
course I have no idea at this point where any of the plates are...



On 11/13/2018 10:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling  wrote:

I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless
you left all of the them at home.


On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:

Touchè

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:

https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600

The one I made is sturdier:
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I solve these problems most of the time by having five tripods, one of which is 
always in the trunk of my car and another of which fits in most of my camera 
bags. 

G

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 7:16 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
> using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless
>> you left all of the them at home.

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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Bruce Walker
In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling  wrote:
>
> I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless
> you left all of the them at home.
>
>
> On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
> > tripod is the one you left at home.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:
> >> Touchè
> >>
> >> Alan C
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
>  https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600
> >>>
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless 
you left all of the them at home.



On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:

Touchè

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:

https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&width=600


The one I made is sturdier:
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


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> Touchè
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> On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-13 Thread Alan C

Touchè

Alan C


On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
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