Re: My journey down the slippery slope continues ...

[Alan C]

What about setting up a LIVING MUSEUM in your lounge?

Alan C

On 08-Apr-22 12:57 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Are you trying to say I have too many cameras? Well, that could be: when I 
tried to count them all, I lost my place at 113 and didn't bother to restart… 😱

G



On Apr 7, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Alan C  wrote:

You guys are crazy. You need a big frame on wheels on which you can mount them all 
& then fire them simultaneously with some sort of automatic device. Then you could 
spend the next week analysing all the images so you can rank them in order of 
sharpness, colour rendition & whatever else you fancy. Then you would be able to 
truly decide which one (or maybe 2) cameras are worth keeping. The balance can be 
donated to a charity shop.

For me, one camera is quite enough.

My tongue is stuck to a cheek now!

Alan C

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Re: My journey down the slippery slope continues ...

[John Francis]

Well, the new OM-1 (which wasn't realeased when I bought my M1X) at
the top-of-the-line point does seem to be about the same price as a K3.
Mind you, although Olympus show the M1X at the full $3000 price point,
there are still a few places (including some Amazon sellers) listing
it at the $1700 price Olympus were offering for a few months last year.
(For reference, the previous M1 model was also around the 2K price that
most sellers seem to be asking for a K3).  Not that I'd suggest the M1X
for a camera you're buying to carrying around on your bike!

There are lots of good u4/3 camera bodies - it really depends on just
how complex you want the camera to be over and above using it as a
point-and-shoot.  I'm trying to persuade my wife that she should get
an M10 as an upgrade replacement for our EPL-1; that way I could use
it as a backup and/or biking/walk-around camera (with the 12-100).
But I'm limiting my choice to Olympus so that I get the full benefit
of their IBIS (In Body Image Stabilization) system - while u4/3 lenses
can be used on any u4/3 body, not all features work across brands.
There's no reason for you to limit your search to just Olympus if you
find a camera from someone else (Panasonic, say) more to your liking.

Good glass isn't going to be cheap, but it's cheaper than glass for
a K3 or K1 :-)  Unless you can find somebody who's prepared to lend
you a nice lens, of course.  Good luck with that ...

P.S. As Godfrey points out, the M1 bodies do have a way to save a
configuration (several different ones, in fact), so resetting to a
known state isn't difficult once you've set up the configuration.

On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 10:13:03AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> I am considering celebrating my new job by getting a u4/3 camera to carry on 
> my bike, possibly an E-M5.  I was poking around last night looking at the 
> current models and a couple of them are up in the K3iii price range, if not 
> more expensive, if you buy them new.
> 
> I did see a couple of bodies on KEH in the $400-800 range, but that still 
> leaves the question of glass.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 7, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> > 
> > You guys are crazy. You need a big frame on wheels on which you can mount 
> > them all & then fire them simultaneously with some sort of automatic 
> > device. Then you could spend the next week analysing all the images so you 
> > can rank them in order of sharpness, colour rendition & whatever else you 
> > fancy. Then you would be able to truly decide which one (or maybe 2) 
> > cameras are worth keeping. The balance can be donated to a charity shop.
> > 
> > For me, one camera is quite enough.
> > 
> > My tongue is stuck to a cheek now!
> > 
> > Alan C
> > 
> > On 07-Apr-22 05:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >> I still have my Olympus E-M1 (the original version in this line, which I 
> >> bought in 2013) ??? and its great grandparent, the E-1 DSLR from 2003. 
> >> Although I've said to myself, "Heck, I hardly ever take these cameras out 
> >> anymore, I should sell the lot!" I just haven't found any sensible reason 
> >> to. The E-M1 in particular still works brilliantly for most of the things 
> >> I photograph and its extreme configurability/customizability is amazing.
> >> 
> >> My Leicas have all had the ability to save a user profile (actually a few 
> >> of them) both internally and in an externally saveable format, and return 
> >> the cameras to their defaults instantly as well as re-instantiate a 
> >> customized profile just as instantly. You can also transfer those settings 
> >> from one to another of the same body easily. I really wish Olympus had 
> >> done the same thing right from the start.
> >> 
> >> (Note: I think the E-M1 has a similar concept of user profiles at least, I 
> >> should probably re-read the manual???)
> >> 
> >> What I did to save time (since you *can* do a master reset of all 
> >> parameters on the Olympus, at least on both of mine) was to create a 
> >> checklist-cheatsheet for all 197 settings that marks out quickly and 
> >> simply all of my changes from the default configuration. So when I do 
> >> reset the E-M1 to its defaults, I just pull out the cheat sheet and walk 
> >> through all the settings that I changed as a standard setup to reconfigure 
> >> it to my basic configuration. Takes about ten minutes that way, and 
> >> without having to do any head scratching and trying to remember how I had 
> >> it set. I used the pages in the PDF form of the owner's manual that list 
> >> out ALL the menu options and defaults to construct the cheat sheet: just 
> >> copied them into a new PDF and edited that into the form I wanted.
> >> 
> >> Hope That Helps???
> >> 
> >> G
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 6, 2022, at 9:07 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> As some of you may remember, some five months ago I decided that
> >>> the K3iii, while a nice camera, wasn't tempting enough to get me
> >>> to spend that amount of money on a new APS-C camera body.
> >>

Re: My journey down the slippery slope continues ...

[Larry Colen]

I am considering celebrating my new job by getting a u4/3 camera to carry on my 
bike, possibly an E-M5.  I was poking around last night looking at the current 
models and a couple of them are up in the K3iii price range, if not more 
expensive, if you buy them new.

I did see a couple of bodies on KEH in the $400-800 range, but that still 
leaves the question of glass.



> On Apr 7, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> You guys are crazy. You need a big frame on wheels on which you can mount 
> them all & then fire them simultaneously with some sort of automatic device. 
> Then you could spend the next week analysing all the images so you can rank 
> them in order of sharpness, colour rendition & whatever else you fancy. Then 
> you would be able to truly decide which one (or maybe 2) cameras are worth 
> keeping. The balance can be donated to a charity shop.
> 
> For me, one camera is quite enough.
> 
> My tongue is stuck to a cheek now!
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 07-Apr-22 05:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> I still have my Olympus E-M1 (the original version in this line, which I 
>> bought in 2013) … and its great grandparent, the E-1 DSLR from 2003. 
>> Although I've said to myself, "Heck, I hardly ever take these cameras out 
>> anymore, I should sell the lot!" I just haven't found any sensible reason 
>> to. The E-M1 in particular still works brilliantly for most of the things I 
>> photograph and its extreme configurability/customizability is amazing.
>> 
>> My Leicas have all had the ability to save a user profile (actually a few of 
>> them) both internally and in an externally saveable format, and return the 
>> cameras to their defaults instantly as well as re-instantiate a customized 
>> profile just as instantly. You can also transfer those settings from one to 
>> another of the same body easily. I really wish Olympus had done the same 
>> thing right from the start.
>> 
>> (Note: I think the E-M1 has a similar concept of user profiles at least, I 
>> should probably re-read the manual…)
>> 
>> What I did to save time (since you *can* do a master reset of all parameters 
>> on the Olympus, at least on both of mine) was to create a 
>> checklist-cheatsheet for all 197 settings that marks out quickly and simply 
>> all of my changes from the default configuration. So when I do reset the 
>> E-M1 to its defaults, I just pull out the cheat sheet and walk through all 
>> the settings that I changed as a standard setup to reconfigure it to my 
>> basic configuration. Takes about ten minutes that way, and without having to 
>> do any head scratching and trying to remember how I had it set. I used the 
>> pages in the PDF form of the owner's manual that list out ALL the menu 
>> options and defaults to construct the cheat sheet: just copied them into a 
>> new PDF and edited that into the form I wanted.
>> 
>> Hope That Helps™
>> 
>> G
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2022, at 9:07 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As some of you may remember, some five months ago I decided that
>>> the K3iii, while a nice camera, wasn't tempting enough to get me
>>> to spend that amount of money on a new APS-C camera body.
>>> I was already finding that carrying a camera bag with my K5, the
>>> 60-250, and a selection of other items (generally one or other of
>>> the 16-50 or 50-135, and maybe the 50/1.4) was getting tiring by
>>> the end of the day, so I was looking for a way to lighten the load.
>>> I'd looked at the Olympus bodies, and was leaning towards either
>>> the M5 or possibly the M1, when Olympus decided to drop the price
>>> of the M1X by 40%, making it only a little more expensive than the
>>> M1 (and $300 less than Pentax were asking for the K3) for a body
>>> that was specifically tailored for what I was most interested in -
>>> Motorsports or wildlife photography.
>>> 
>>> So I jumped, and picked up the M1X and the 40-150/2.8 zoom (which
>>> gave me pretty much the same field of view as the 60-250, which had
>>> become my most-used lens).
>>> 
>>> I haven't done a great deal of photography in the five months that
>>> have elapsed since then, but it's all been with the M1X. I've just
>>> about become accustomed to the fact that almost all the controls
>>> work exactly the way the Pentax controls don't (I have to turn the
>>> dials in the opposite direction for many functions, the assignment
>>> of the two thumbwheels on the body to control shutter and aperture
>>> has the two functions interchanged, the lens release button is on
>>> the other side of the mount, etc., etc.) Fortunately, though, the
>>> M1X is amazingly reconfigurable - most of the vast number of buttons
>>> spread over the body can be re-assigned to different functions (and
>>> there's an easy way to swap the functions on those two thumbwheels),
>>> 
>>> One thing I have found out, though, is that it's a little too easy
>>> to get yourself stuck in a corner.  With the Pentax bodies all you
>>> have to do to reset the camera to a known state is to

Re: My journey down the slippery slope continues ...

[Alan C]

You guys are crazy. You need a big frame on wheels on which you can 
mount them all & then fire them simultaneously with some sort of 
automatic device. Then you could spend the next week analysing all the 
images so you can rank them in order of sharpness, colour rendition & 
whatever else you fancy. Then you would be able to truly decide which 
one (or maybe 2) cameras are worth keeping. The balance can be donated 
to a charity shop.


For me, one camera is quite enough.

My tongue is stuck to a cheek now!

Alan C

On 07-Apr-22 05:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I still have my Olympus E-M1 (the original version in this line, which I bought in 2013) 
… and its great grandparent, the E-1 DSLR from 2003. Although I've said to myself, 
"Heck, I hardly ever take these cameras out anymore, I should sell the lot!" I 
just haven't found any sensible reason to. The E-M1 in particular still works brilliantly 
for most of the things I photograph and its extreme configurability/customizability is 
amazing.

My Leicas have all had the ability to save a user profile (actually a few of 
them) both internally and in an externally saveable format, and return the 
cameras to their defaults instantly as well as re-instantiate a customized 
profile just as instantly. You can also transfer those settings from one to 
another of the same body easily. I really wish Olympus had done the same thing 
right from the start.

(Note: I think the E-M1 has a similar concept of user profiles at least, I 
should probably re-read the manual…)

What I did to save time (since you *can* do a master reset of all parameters on 
the Olympus, at least on both of mine) was to create a checklist-cheatsheet for 
all 197 settings that marks out quickly and simply all of my changes from the 
default configuration. So when I do reset the E-M1 to its defaults, I just pull 
out the cheat sheet and walk through all the settings that I changed as a 
standard setup to reconfigure it to my basic configuration. Takes about ten 
minutes that way, and without having to do any head scratching and trying to 
remember how I had it set. I used the pages in the PDF form of the owner's 
manual that list out ALL the menu options and defaults to construct the cheat 
sheet: just copied them into a new PDF and edited that into the form I wanted.

Hope That Helps™

G


On Apr 6, 2022, at 9:07 PM, John Francis  wrote:


As some of you may remember, some five months ago I decided that
the K3iii, while a nice camera, wasn't tempting enough to get me
to spend that amount of money on a new APS-C camera body.
I was already finding that carrying a camera bag with my K5, the
60-250, and a selection of other items (generally one or other of
the 16-50 or 50-135, and maybe the 50/1.4) was getting tiring by
the end of the day, so I was looking for a way to lighten the load.
I'd looked at the Olympus bodies, and was leaning towards either
the M5 or possibly the M1, when Olympus decided to drop the price
of the M1X by 40%, making it only a little more expensive than the
M1 (and $300 less than Pentax were asking for the K3) for a body
that was specifically tailored for what I was most interested in -
Motorsports or wildlife photography.

So I jumped, and picked up the M1X and the 40-150/2.8 zoom (which
gave me pretty much the same field of view as the 60-250, which had
become my most-used lens).

I haven't done a great deal of photography in the five months that
have elapsed since then, but it's all been with the M1X. I've just
about become accustomed to the fact that almost all the controls
work exactly the way the Pentax controls don't (I have to turn the
dials in the opposite direction for many functions, the assignment
of the two thumbwheels on the body to control shutter and aperture
has the two functions interchanged, the lens release button is on
the other side of the mount, etc., etc.) Fortunately, though, the
M1X is amazingly reconfigurable - most of the vast number of buttons
spread over the body can be re-assigned to different functions (and
there's an easy way to swap the functions on those two thumbwheels),

One thing I have found out, though, is that it's a little too easy
to get yourself stuck in a corner.  With the Pentax bodies all you
have to do to reset the camera to a known state is to turn it off
and on again.  The M1X, though, remembers the state it was it when
you turned it off, and goes back to that state when you turn it on
again (although there's probably a way to change that behaviour, too).

Last weekend I decided I was going to stick with the lighter system.
I knew I wanted something wider than 40mm, but I wasn't sure whether
to go for the 12-40/2.8 or the 12-100/4. I eventually decided to go
for the 12-100, and add a 2x TC to use with the 40-150 to give me a
two-lens system of 12-100/4 and 80-300/5.6 (roughly comparable to a
range of 17-425 on my K5 - giving up 1mm at the wide end, but gaining
a little more reach than the 350mm I got with the 60-250 & a 1

Re: PESO: Yellow

[ann sanfedele]

Ha! thanks Dan, yes yes I love yellow and especially forsythias..   that 
is an impressive one... lucky you..


nice shot
ann

On 4/7/2022 12:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Since Ann hates the color red (in photographs, at least), I thought I would
do a YELLOW image for spring.  Our backyard:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/4/7/yellow

K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135hour mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
Comments, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: Yellow

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Paul!

The cherry trees are just about ready to bloom here, as are the magnolias.
Spring at last!

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 7:22 AM Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> Beautiful! I’m jealous. We are weeks away.
>
> Paul
>
> > On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > Since Ann hates the color red (in photographs, at least), I thought I
> would
> > do a YELLOW image for spring.  Our backyard:
> >
> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/4/7/yellow
> >
> > K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135hour mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
> > Comments, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and appreciated.
> >
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Re: My journey down the slippery slope continues ...

[Paul Stenquist]

Sounds like a hood choice, Enjoy!

Paul

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:08 AM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> 
> As some of you may remember, some five months ago I decided that
> the K3iii, while a nice camera, wasn't tempting enough to get me
> to spend that amount of money on a new APS-C camera body.
> I was already finding that carrying a camera bag with my K5, the
> 60-250, and a selection of other items (generally one or other of
> the 16-50 or 50-135, and maybe the 50/1.4) was getting tiring by
> the end of the day, so I was looking for a way to lighten the load.
> I'd looked at the Olympus bodies, and was leaning towards either
> the M5 or possibly the M1, when Olympus decided to drop the price
> of the M1X by 40%, making it only a little more expensive than the
> M1 (and $300 less than Pentax were asking for the K3) for a body
> that was specifically tailored for what I was most interested in -
> Motorsports or wildlife photography.
> 
> So I jumped, and picked up the M1X and the 40-150/2.8 zoom (which
> gave me pretty much the same field of view as the 60-250, which had
> become my most-used lens).
> 
> I haven't done a great deal of photography in the five months that
> have elapsed since then, but it's all been with the M1X. I've just
> about become accustomed to the fact that almost all the controls
> work exactly the way the Pentax controls don't (I have to turn the
> dials in the opposite direction for many functions, the assignment
> of the two thumbwheels on the body to control shutter and aperture
> has the two functions interchanged, the lens release button is on
> the other side of the mount, etc., etc.) Fortunately, though, the
> M1X is amazingly reconfigurable - most of the vast number of buttons
> spread over the body can be re-assigned to different functions (and
> there's an easy way to swap the functions on those two thumbwheels),
> 
> One thing I have found out, though, is that it's a little too easy
> to get yourself stuck in a corner.  With the Pentax bodies all you
> have to do to reset the camera to a known state is to turn it off
> and on again.  The M1X, though, remembers the state it was it when
> you turned it off, and goes back to that state when you turn it on
> again (although there's probably a way to change that behaviour, too).
> 
> Last weekend I decided I was going to stick with the lighter system.
> I knew I wanted something wider than 40mm, but I wasn't sure whether
> to go for the 12-40/2.8 or the 12-100/4. I eventually decided to go
> for the 12-100, and add a 2x TC to use with the 40-150 to give me a
> two-lens system of 12-100/4 and 80-300/5.6 (roughly comparable to a
> range of 17-425 on my K5 - giving up 1mm at the wide end, but gaining
> a little more reach than the 350mm I got with the 60-250 & a 1.4x TC).
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: Yellow

[Paul Stenquist]

Beautiful! I’m jealous. We are weeks away.

Paul

> On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Since Ann hates the color red (in photographs, at least), I thought I would
> do a YELLOW image for spring.  Our backyard:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/4/7/yellow
> 
> K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135hour mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and appreciated.
> 
> Dan Matyola
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