Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
I did a new build last year based on a Gigabyte Aorus MB and Aorus video card. I chose the MB because it supported 4 x M.2 cards on the MB which are significantly faster than anything going through the SATA buss. The only other card I attached to the MB is the video card, but there are many slots available for other stuff. One thing that surprised me is that the system tests faster with less ram than I expected, and I ended up installing 64gb of ram instead of the 128gb that I had initially planned on. Gigabyte does make some pretty snazzy gear. I did end up with liquid cooling on the advice of the guy who did the actual build. So far I'm happy with what I ended up with. bill On 6/18/2024 10:08 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling reason. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-3 repair update
I just heard from Precision, my K-3III has been repaired and shipped, it should arrive back here on Monday. As to the superzoom, I just ordered an 18-250 off of Ebay for about $85 with shipping and tax. Despite the WR of the 18-270 I never really liked it as much as the 18-250 it replaced, and that would have been a lot more. I'll keep my eyes open for a WR 18-135 which is a nice balance of reach and image quality, as well as being WR. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
John Francis wrote: >On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:59:05PM +0200, Toine wrote: >> Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a >> RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise >> drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 > >If you do go for a 3060, though, you're definitely going to want good cooling. >On my system (a regular Dell tower with 8 Gen 11 i9 cores and an rtx 3060 Ti) >running the GPU at 30% jumps the reported temperature up from 48c to 68c. After a little research I'm thinking I'll have to settle for less horsepower than the 3060, for reasons of both heat and noise. I'll also be recording audio in my computer room and I want as quiet a system as I can get (I currently have a fanless graphics card). -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:59:05PM +0200, Toine wrote: > Any major brand is ok (MSI, Asus, Asrock). I would pick Intel, one of the > last generation (13th 14th). i7 is fast enough, i9 runs very hot and > needs max power. add 32Gb Ram or more. I would go for a liquid cooler on an > i7 or i9. Peak power is simply too much for most air coolers (I ruined an > i7 on aircooling). BeQuiet power supplies, aircoolers and system cabinets > run very quietly. Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a > RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise > drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 If you do go for a 3060, though, you're definitely going to want good cooling. On my system (a regular Dell tower with 8 Gen 11 i9 cores and an rtx 3060 Ti) running the GPU at 30% jumps the reported temperature up from 48c to 68c. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another UK pano
Just discovered 5 images on my hard drive that I forgot to stitch after our Cumbria Way walk. Here's the result: https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/53800935843/in/album-72177720317448943/ -- Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia www.robertstech.com 617-276-7369 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Yeah, I would expect that a new GPU would give you the most bang for your buck. If you can upgrade the CPU without upgrading your MOBO, that would give a good boost with less risk of finding out that your new mobo doesn't support some bus that one of your old cards needs, or suchlike. It would be very interesting if you could do some sort of benchmark before and after each upgrade. Have lightroom build a 12 frame HDR pano, and then do a denoise on it. Then do the same thing on the same files, each time you upgrade. I suspect that more memory would make more difference without the GPU, since they often have their own memory. > On Jun 18, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Toine wrote: > > Any major brand is ok (MSI, Asus, Asrock). I would pick Intel, one of the > last generation (13th 14th). i7 is fast enough, i9 runs very hot and > needs max power. add 32Gb Ram or more. I would go for a liquid cooler on an > i7 or i9. Peak power is simply too much for most air coolers (I ruined an > i7 on aircooling). BeQuiet power supplies, aircoolers and system cabinets > run very quietly. Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a > RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise > drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 18:08, Mark Roberts > wrote: > >> I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard >> (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm >> thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any >> input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be >> used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in >> the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling >> reason. >> >> -- >> Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia >> www.robertstech.com >> 617-276-7369 >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Any major brand is ok (MSI, Asus, Asrock). I would pick Intel, one of the last generation (13th 14th). i7 is fast enough, i9 runs very hot and needs max power. add 32Gb Ram or more. I would go for a liquid cooler on an i7 or i9. Peak power is simply too much for most air coolers (I ruined an i7 on aircooling). BeQuiet power supplies, aircoolers and system cabinets run very quietly. Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 18:08, Mark Roberts wrote: > I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard > (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm > thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any > input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be > used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in > the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling > reason. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-276-7369 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
I wish I could help, but I haven't been keeping up. I've just been buying used mac gear from a friend with a shop in Santa Cruz (Pacific Macs). A couple other people on the list have built up new machines in the past year and would know better than me what to look for. A while back the mobo in my home Linux box fried, I bought a used mobo from a friend, and then it wouldn't boot off the drives I had or something crazy like that. So what I've mostly learned is weird and unexpected things lose compatibility and you're likely to need to replace half your system for more than the cost of just buying a new system. In a related note, I recently put together a RAID NAS with "renewed" drives off Amazon. I'm glad that it's RAID, and second level of backup, because last night one of the drives already crapped out. For primary storage it would probably be worth paying $310/drive rather than $170. > On Jun 18, 2024, at 9:08 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard > (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm > thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any > input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be > used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in > the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling > reason. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-276-7369 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Am 18.06.24 um 16:15 schrieb Bob W PDML: 35mm landscape is the best format for shooting coffins. MARK! -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On 18 Jun 2024, at 16:01, Bill wrote: > > > […] > Now I don't sit on the Ricoh board of directors, but then nobody who posts > here does either, and to be blunt, the target market for this camera are > people who are half a century younger than the average age of the soon to be > crated and put into underground storage inhabitants of the PDML. > > bill > 35mm landscape is the best format for shooting coffins. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
On 6/18/2024 7:11 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 18/06/2024 14:03 BST Bill wrote: On 6/18/2024 12:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. A lot more usable than I was expecting. A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight robbery, I know which I would choose. The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in God's waiting room. We are both talking about the camera that uses a way outdated and very expensive imaging technology, aren't we? In which case, anyone buying a superfluous and expensive unit when there are arguably better and certainly substantially cheaper options seems to be a few frames short of a roll. Apparently Pentax figures there are enough people out there who want to shoot film who will also want new film cameras and the advantages that new provides. Now I don't sit on the Ricoh board of directors, but then nobody who posts here does either, and to be blunt, the target market for this camera are people who are half a century younger than the average age of the soon to be crated and put into underground storage inhabitants of the PDML. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Am 17.06.24 um 22:42 schrieb Bob W PDML: £499 in the UK. To me, it doesn't look like a Pentax and, even worse, it doesn't look like something that should cost 500 quid. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On Jun 18, 2024, at 9:03 AM, Bill wrote: > > The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's > that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in > God's waiting room. > > bill Exactly. I am most likely using the cameras I will die with-- a K1 and K3. Gave away or sold all my darkroom equipment years ago. Film involves work. I’m too old for wotk! Paul > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On 18/06/2024 14:03 BST Bill wrote: > > > On 6/18/2024 12:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > >>> > On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: > > It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. > >>> A lot more usable than I was expecting. > >>> > A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. > >>> About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been > >>> about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. > >> I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + > >> 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, > >> but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. > > The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) > > the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight > > robbery, I know which I would choose. > > The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, > it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of > people in God's waiting room. We are both talking about the camera that uses a way outdated and very expensive imaging technology, aren't we? In which case, anyone buying a superfluous and expensive unit when there are arguably better and certainly substantially cheaper options seems to be a few frames short of a roll. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
On 6/18/2024 12:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. A lot more usable than I was expecting. A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight robbery, I know which I would choose. The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in God's waiting room. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
