Re: Help needed in Chicago

2003-03-21 Thread John Glover
I'd start with Central Camera in Chicago, www.central-camera.com.  They have
a repair department and i've had success with them in the past.  There is
also a shop I use for CLA's which is much closer to my home, TC Camera
Repair in Lisle, IL, but I'm not sure if they do video repair work or not.

HTH

John

- Original Message -
From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: OT: Help needed in Chicago


> Hi guys and gals,
>
> I guess we have on or more Chicagoans in the PDML (I hope so, at
> least - who wrote about "Shoveling in Chicago"?)
> A dear friend of mine, Alessandro, is spending a period of study
> at the university hospital (sort of...) of Chicago. He left
> Naples with his photo gear (Canon... :-( ) and a JVC MiniDV
> camcorder we won at a short movie on-line contest (the movie is
> Smack, I guess somebody recall that I annoyed all the PDML
> members asking for their vote...).
> The bad news are that the audio of the JVC is not working; since
> Alessandro doesn't know where to repair the camcorder (which, of
> course, has no US warranty) I thought to ask to our members in
> the windy city if they know how to help him.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Gianfranco
>
>
> =
>
>
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Re: ZX-50 and Manual Focus 80-200 Lense

2002-12-28 Thread John Glover

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From: "Nagaraj, Ramesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:27 PM
Subject: RE: ZX-50 and Manual Focus 80-200 Lense


> ...
> >>a better lense if the user is a beginner.  Also, what about the ZX-50
body
> >>itself.  Is it also inferior?  You appear to be a straight shooter so I
would
>
> I used ZX-50, sorry to say i was not happy with it's metering. It uses
2-segment metering.
> Then I changed to ZX-5n and I am very happy with ZX-5n metering. Zx-5n
uses 6-segment metering.
> I think metering is the heart of system so needs to accurate.

The problem with the ZX-50 is it cannot use a  *lens* that does not have a A
setting.  Older manual focus lens without the A setting on the aperture ring
do not couple with the ZX-50 or ZZ-30's exposure system in program mode.
Thus when it takes a picture, the lens is always set fully open I believe.
If the ZX-50 supports aperture priority, I think these older lenses wil work
in aperture priority mode.  However, they will not meter correctly in
program or shutter priorty modes.

John





Re: Boz's photo on eBay auction

2002-10-26 Thread John Glover
Hi Boz,

I was actually going to send in a complaint, but when i click on the link,
it said a complaint on this auction has already been filedso it
appears someone beat me to it!  It's just annoying to see folks use other
people's work for thier own.profit.

John

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From: "Bojidar Dimitrov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: Boz's photo on eBay auction


> Hello John,
>
> John Glover wrote:
> >
> > In case anyone wants to gripe to ebay about this.
> >
> > http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetRNSWeb
> > FormShow&flag1=0&flag2=3&flag3=6&rcode=52010383100&subjecttier1
> > =Questionable+Content+on+eBay&subjecttier2=Potentially+Infringing+I
> > ssues+%28including+counterfeits+&Query=Use+of+images%2C+text+or+lin
> > ks+without+proper+permission
>
> Thank you very much for the link!  I will not do anything this time for
> one because the action is over, and also because this is a "cheap"
> item.  But by the next bigger abuse I will definitely send in a
> complaint, and hopefully eBay will react appropriately...
>
> Best wishes,
> Boz
>
> --
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>0(` O-O ')0   A. Einstein
> ===ooO=(_)=Ooo===
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>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/
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><__>   <__>
>
>
>





Re: Boz's photo on eBay auction

2002-10-25 Thread John Glover
In case anyone wants to gripe to ebay about this.

http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetRNSWebFormShow&;
flag1=0&flag2=3&flag3=6&rcode=52010383100&subjecttier1=Questionable+Cont
ent+on+eBay&subjecttier2=Potentially+Infringing+Issues+%28including+counterf
eits+&Query=Use+of+images%2C+text+or+links+without+proper+permission


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: Boz's photo on eBay auction


> A real dope, he couldn't even bother to steal the right picture!
> (Shows Boz's 35mm f2, but notes he is selling a 50mm f2.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> In a message dated 10/25/02 1:22:07 AM Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Here we go again... at least they kept the copyright symbol.
>
>  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1391556972>>
>
>





Re: Pentax flashes

2002-09-10 Thread John Glover


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax flashes


> It's mentioned in the description for the 201 that it's a good flash to
use with the ZX-M.  If what I've found out is correct, it's a good flash IF
your lenses are KA.  If not, then it's check the flash range and set the
aperture.

Ray,

Pentax makes a flash that will meet your needs, the AF200T.  It is very
small, quite poweful for its size, has two auto modes, a TTL mode and a full
manual mode plus adjustable power levels.  You can pick one up from
www.keh.com, or off eBay much cheaper.I paid $25 for mine off eBay a few
years ago. I've since replace it with the AF280T, which came from KEH for
only $49.


>
> I'm disappointed with Pentax.  I've spent too much time trying to find
basic info online.  Their flash model designations are confusing (e.g., AF
means auto-flash, not auto-focus) and their instruction manuals and product
descriptions are next to useless.

No more confusing than anyone else's flash designation.  The Suffixes are
the keys to Pentax flashes, F being digitial flash, T being TTL, Z being
zoom head, etc.  What does the E in Canon's designation mean, or the EZ or
the EX?

>
> I like my Pentax cameras up to a point.  I'm reaching that point and
instead of changing all of my lenses over to KA to take advantage of a
low-priced flash, I think it's time to sink money into the Canon EOS system.
At least info on EOS isn't as obscure as what Pentax semi-translates from
Japanese.  And there doesn't seem to be any great confusion in regards to
EOS flashes and their compatibilities with various EOS cameras.

Nope, that's because EOS flashes will only work with EOS cameras.  Try to
mount an EOS flash on an A-1 and see what happens..nothihg as the EOS
flash will not even talk to older manual bodies.  At least Pentax still
makes a few flash guns which are compatible with their entire range of
cameras.

John






Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-20 Thread John Glover

Hi Joe,

I bought mine form a local camera shop, used but in like new condition for
$200.  That seems to be about the going rate for an excellent condition
specimen.  You may it cheaper on eBay if you are patient.

John





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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF


> How much can I expect to pay for the 28-105 powerzoom model used?
> (And does anyone have one for sale or trade?) It looks like B&H still
> has the powerzoom model new -- for $357.
>
> Adorama has the new f/3.2-4.5 version for $200. The second (Tamron
> rebadge) version is listed (new) at $210 at B&H and $190 at Adorama.
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OT Oopsie! Re: Poster recevied

2002-08-15 Thread John Glover

Guess I need to check the retunr address before replyingsorry!!


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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: Poster recevied


> Hi Stan,
>
> I received my poster a couple of days ago, everything was just fine.
Thanks
> for coordinating this!
>
> John
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Re: This might be of interest to eBay users

2002-08-15 Thread John Glover

Odd, I've used Paypal for three years and never had any problems.  And now
that eBay has bought out Paypal, I imagine it is going to become the
preferred means of paying on eBay.

John

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: This might be of interest to eBay users


> I`m glad I never used Paypal! Now I now why a lot of ebay
> sellers will not use it.
> Steve Larson
> Redondo Beach, California
> - Original Message -
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:11 PM
> Subject: This might be of interest to eBay users
>
>
> > I submit this with no comment.
> > http://paypalsucks.com/
> > William Robb
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Re: Why I'm leaving pentax (and why you will follow)

2002-08-09 Thread John Glover

And you know, the advanced "acronymic design" makes this even *more*
desirable.

So tell me, what acronym do you think of..  :)

John

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Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: OT: Why I'm leaving pentax (and why you will follow)


> Couldn't resist:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1372383054
>
> Steven.
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Re: RE: 70-2x0 zoom question

2002-08-01 Thread John Glover

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Subject: Re: RE: 70-2x0 zoom question


> Thanks for the help Bill. To confirm and clarify (a phrase learned at my
previous job with a Fortune 100 company), I have found these two lenses on
eBay and Adorama. Are these the "-- an F 70-210/4-5.6 (discontinued around
1991, considered by many to be the best of the autofocus zooms in this
range)" of which you speak?
>
> eBay: PENTAX TAKUMAR-F 70-210mm 4-5.6 AF ZOOM LENS
> Adorama: Pentax 70-210 4/5.6 Takumar-f Af Lns


The Takumar lens is an entirely different animal than the F70-210/4-5.6.  It
is a consumer level optic and not well regarded at all.  Make sure you get
the Pentax SMC-F 70-210the Takumar-F series of lenses were a budget
series, skimping on both quality of construction and lacking SMC coatings.

John
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Re: A certain retailer

2002-06-15 Thread John Glover

Actually, though Keppler didn't call them by name, he wrote a scathing
editorial about a an advertiser they were actually going to ban from POP
Photo for bait and switch, inflated return charges and just generally being
rude to their customers. About a month after or so that editorial,
Cambridge's ads dissappeared from POP, and they had advertised in POP for
*ages*.So, putting two and two together..

But then again, this is just all *circumstantial *   :)


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Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: A certain retailer


> A while back I was looking to buy a Minox GT-E and did an internet search.
> AAA and Cambridge came up with cheaper prices than anyone. When I called
to
> inquire about the camera, both were sold out and had questionable stories
> about when another shipment would come in. I got weird vibes from both
> companies and decided to look elsewhere and pay more. I also remembered
them
> advertising in all the camera magazines and I couldn't find an add for
> either store in the current issues of POP Photo or Shutterbug. That
probably
> says a lot for their reputation.
>
> Jim
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Re: A certain retailer

2002-06-14 Thread John Glover

Cambridge is the bottom feeder of bait and switch NYC scam
retailersavoid them like the plague!

Also, AAA Camera, which is also owned by Cambridge.

John

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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:32 PM
Subject: A certain retailer


> Hey gang -
>
> Has anyone had dealings with Cambridge Camera in NYC? I just had a
> bait-and-switch scenario with them. I didn't fall for it.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen with this outfit? They don't seem
reputable
> to me.
>
> -Brendan MacRae
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Re: Digital Queston On Another Camera Brand

2002-05-04 Thread John Glover

- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: OT: Digital Queston On Another Camera Brand


> Hi All
>
> The Digital 2000 uses a removable SmartMedia card, and came with a 2Mb
card
> (as do the others).  Since the manual was missing, I called Digital Dream
> and asked what size cards can it take.  They informed me that it only
takes
> 2Mb cards.
>

> Does anyone know why the camera is limited to 2MB cards, and why it should
> not be able to save to bigger ones?


My understanding is this is programmed into the firmware which runs the
camera's on-board processors.  For example, my Fuji 6900 can only see SM
cards up to 128Mb now, which is the max size.  If and when the 256Mb cards
get released, I'll not be able to use them as my camera is limited by its
on-board board software.  Some cameras do have upgradeable firmware and can
get around this limitation.  With this camera, as it sounds quite entry
level to only suppliy a 2Mb card, there is probalby no upgrade or way around
this limit, if it truly exists.  Have you tried borrowing say an 8 or 16Mb
card and popping in the camera to see if it works?

John
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Re: Do you ever buy from E-bay?

2002-04-17 Thread John Glover

Hi Julia,

eBay is a great source for gear, but you do need to exercise some caution,
as many of the other posts have related to you.  Watch out on K1000's
though.  Although you can sometimes get a terrific deal, many times I see
the price bid up to ridiculously high numbers.  It seems some folks just
lose their common sense when it comes to bidding on eBay, and the K1000 many
times sells for more than it is really worth.  The best thing to do is to
use www.keh.com as a reference for the price you are willing to pay.

I've bought and sold most all my gear on either eBay or through KEH.  So
far, I've been lucky (though I like to think of it as being a wise
consumer!) on eBay and have not been burned.  The same with KEH, I've had
great luck with them, and everything I've bought has been in "BGN"
condition.  No complaints about KEH or the quality of their gear at all.

John



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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Do you ever buy from E-bay?


> Hi Everyone,
>
> Really enjoying the conversations here. Just reading a lot right now.
>  Butyou all got me thinking about buying lenses and stuff, so I've
> been checking out E-Bay.  There's a couple of K1000 packages that come
> with a few lenses (that seem nice to me) and a SP1000 with a few as
> well.  Would it be reasonable to try for one of these? Probably the K's,
> because of the lens mount...plus, then I'll have a spare body.
>
> I was wondering too if you all wind up bidding against eachother? : )
> Oh, and I saw an LX body for sale too..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julia
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Re: Used flashes- good or bad?

2002-04-13 Thread John Glover

Hi Taka,

I've bought several items in "bargain" condition from KEw and to tell the
truth, they have looked absolutely perfect in almost all respects.  My
AF280T showed only signs of paint wear on the Pentax logo, probably more
from being slid in and out of a camera bag than from any misuse.  I also
purchased a bargain F70-210 and a Tokina 100/3.5 macro.  if I were grading
them, I'd have called them mint-neither lens had *any* visible problems
with the glass and just the slightest flaws on the finish of the barrels.

KEH seems to be quite conservative in their grading and I'd not hesitate to
buy bargain grade form them.  I've had terrific luck.  A Bragin item from
KEH is truly a real bargain! plus, if you are not satisfied, they've got a
very good return policy as well, so buy with confidence from them.

John

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Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Used flashes- good or bad?


> John-
> How bad/ugly is stuff in bargain condition?
>
> I hesitate to buy anything used that is described as such.
>
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Re: Uhhhhh...crack smoker?

2002-04-12 Thread John Glover

Hi Paul,

I did the same and received a similiar note.  It just sounds as if this guy
just did not know Pentax.  As you said, seems a nice guy, just misinformed
by someone.

He also rasied a question to me about whether Pentax ever made a body with
six pins for the flash contacts.  He has been given a flash, supposedly
Pentax Z series compatible, but it has six pins on the shoe.  My PZ-1p has 4
contacts, the AF500FTZ has four pins, as I've never seen a n AF360FGZ, I'd
assume it has at least one more to account for the additional features, but
a six flash contact body?  I tentatively told him no Pentax body I was aware
of has six flash contacts.

John


> Folks:  FYI
>
> Wrote a note to this gentlemen, and tried to be friendly, regarding
questions
> on this issue and a brief, to the best of my knowledge, note about the
caps,
> K mounts and availability.
>
> He did reply, friendly, and indicated that he had received two other
messages
> on the same topic.  He indicates, and I haven't checked yet, that he has
> changed his auction notice to reflect the new information.
>
> Seems to be a nice guy, just more familiar with other brands and was
making
> the same assumption with Pentax.  WE may have a "convert" here as a
result.
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

2002-03-20 Thread John Glover

I think you can get a new AF280T from B&H for about $150, but that would not
include the wide and tele adapters.

John

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Flash Delima-Please Help


> Thanks for the input.  Maybe I need a difuser for the
> AF200T that I have?
>
> Is a used AF280T with both the wide angle & the tele
> adaptors for $150 a good price?  It appears to be in
> excellent condition with cases & manual.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions!
>
>
> --- Steve Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >  The AF200T is a great little flash, but don`t
> > expect it to cover
> > a lot of range. The AF280T is substantially more
> > powerful,
> > will have a lot more reach, plus it tilts and
> > swivels, has adapters
> > for wide and tele, the wide adapter is always used
> > on mine when
> > shooting people, it`s kind of like a diffuser. Don`t
> > rule out the
> > AF400T, all you need to use it on a Super P is a "4P
> > Sync Cord B",
> > check them out on Boz`s page at:
> > http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
> > The AF400T also has the wide and tele adapters, can
> > be used
> > with an external battery pack, and it is quite
> > powerful.
> > Steve Larson
> > Redondo Beach, California
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Steve Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:52 PM
> > Subject: Flash Delima-Please Help
> >
> >
> > > I currently own a Super Program & have a Pentax
> > AF200
> > > flash & a Vivitar 283 flash.  I primarily use the
> > 283
> > > for "Professional" jobs, with a Lumiquest bounce
> > card.
> > >  It seems that lately the pictures are a bit
> > > overexposed.  I'm giving some thought to buying a
> > > Pentax AF280T.  Can anyone tell me what to expect.
> >
> > > Will the 280 provide a noticeable difference?  Can
> > I
> > > expect better results due to TTL?  I have not been
> > > real happy with the 200, but maybe it's just too
> > > under-powered?
> > >
> > > Your help is greatly appreciated.  I definately
> > need
> > > help learning about flash photogragphy.  Any
> > reference
> > > out there on the web?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: OT ? Genesis Camera Opinions ?

2002-03-13 Thread John Glover

Stay away from Genesis.the only mail order sources that I'd trust would
be B&H or Adorama.  KEH is also good as well and have decent prices on
excellent quality used gear.  Some folks have had good luck with Genesis and
some of the other low ball NYC camera house but in general you are more apt
to get burned by these guys than save anything.  And above all NEVER EVER
EVER buy from Cambridge Camera Exchange or AAA Camera.  These guys are
listed in the dictionary under the definition of weasels and scumbags!



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Subject: OT ? Genesis Camera Opinions ?


> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm new to the list, and I've got a question that has absolutely nothing
to do with Pentax, except that I may order some Pentax Lenses from the
Online retailer Genesis Camera (http://www.genesiscamera.com).
>
> I'm up in Canada, and their shipping is outrageous ($125.00 US) but I'm
still tempted because their gray market prices are very good.
>
> Has anyone ever ordered from them or had any experience with them ?
>
> Muchly appreciated,
> Dave
>
> 
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Re: OT: Hilarious shill bidding on eBay

2002-03-12 Thread John Glover

Canon announced $2199 as the MSRP for the D60.

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Subject: Re: OT: Hilarious shill bidding on eBay


> The suggested retail is supposed to be slightly lower than the D30 was.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> 
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Hilarious shill bidding on eBay
>
>
> > What the hell is that all about?
> >
> > Out of curiosity, anyone know what those things are worth?  I'm guessing
> not
> > $85,000US...
> >
> > -frank
> >
> > Chris Brogden wrote:
> >
> > > My friend told me about this auction for a Canon D60, currently at
about
> > > $70,000 US.  Check out the bid history!  :)
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338871855
> > >
> > > chris
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Re: More image theft...

2002-03-11 Thread John Glover

I like this one...BTW, for those interested, eBay does have a policy
regarding image theft and unauthorized linkage of your image to another's
auction.  If Boz complains, eBay should stop this guy from using the
link..

But Stan's idea has a lot more merit to it I think.  You;d think a camera
dealer could at least manage one image of his product!


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: More image theft...


> A direct comment would be to put up a jpeg of text to the effect of
> something like:
> "The seller in this auction was too lazy or incompetent to take a picture
of
> the item he is selling. So he linked to one of my pictures without
> permission. Would you buy a used camera from this man?"
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OT:FS: AF200T, AF330FTZ

2002-03-09 Thread John Glover

Since I've recently purchased an AF500FTZ, I've got both my AF200T and my
AF330FTZ for sale now as I doubt I need four flashes.  The AF200T is in EX+
condition while I'd guess the AF330FTZ to be in LN-.  The original case is
included with both as well as a photocopy of the instruction manuals (if I
can find the AF200T manualit may be in my desk at work).

AF200T $45 plus shipping
AF330FTZ$85 plus shipping.

Please contact me off list if interested.

Thanks!

John Glover
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Re: AF280T and M lenses

2002-03-09 Thread John Glover

No, as the Super Program supports TTL (the only K mount body to do so), you
can use all the modes of the AF280T.  On all other K mount bodies, you can
use both the manual and automatic modes, but not the TTL.  The AF280T is
probably the most versatile flash you can have for a non-AF body.  I love
mine and use it on both my MX and ZX-M, as well as on my Fuji digital body,
all in the automatic modes.

Now, I'm waiting in anticipation for my AF500FTZ to arrive, courtesy of a
list member..thanks Bill!!


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Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: AF280T and M lenses


> I now have the above mentioned flash and a
> M50mm f 1.7 on my newly aquired Super
> Program.If i understand the flash manual,i
> would only be able to use the flash in manula
> mode and no auto modes??Is this correct.
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2002-02-28 Thread John Glover

See the note at the end of every message you have recieved from this,
including the one you posted and this oneonly you can unsubscribe
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Re: Tamron 70-210 zoom - does adaptall 2 adapt to OUR cameras?

2002-02-20 Thread John Glover

Minolta MD mount...

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Subject: Re: Tamron 70-210 zoom - does adaptall 2 adapt to OUR cameras?


 
> The adapter that is on there now is a M-MD (finally looked at with a
> magnifier to
> see that.) No clue what camera that is for.
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OT: Verify@eBay.com fraud

2002-02-17 Thread John Glover

Anyone who receives an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking to re-veirify your eBay info 
due to installations of new servers, just be warned this is a scamI emailed the 
domain owner of www.ebay-verify.com, and was promptly emailed back that this is a 
scam.  The account had been fraudulently registered and was being used to collect 
password and credit card data.  The domain owner has had site is shut down now, but if 
anyone you know inadvertently sent out their credit card info to this site, then they 
need to have those cards cancelled immediately.
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Re: CCD sensor array from Foveon

2002-02-15 Thread John Glover

Based on the Sigma SA-9 body...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02021104sigmads9.asp


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From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: CCD sensor array from Foveon


> Hi folks,
> 
> Here's some information from NASA Tech Briefs Insider
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the new Foveon color CCD sensor array,
> plus a link to additional details, for those who are interested.
> 
> Bill Peifer
> Rochester, NY
> 
> ===
> 
> COMPANIES TO WATCH
> Dr. Carver Mead, a pioneer of the modern computer chip industry, has
> developed
> a new Silicon Valley company called Foveon, which will begin shipping a new
> type of digital image sensor that can match the photographic capabilities
> of 35-mm film.
> 
> The company's sensor chip is being used in a single-lens reflex camera made
> in Japan, and a second generation of the sensor is scheduled for shipment
> this fall. If purchased by other camera makers, it could be available early
> next year in popular brands of digital cameras. Eastman Kodak has inquired
> about using the Foveon sensor in one part of its product line.
> 
> Current digital sensors capture light via a mosaic of red, green, and
> blue filters that limit information to one color per pixel on the surface of
> the sensor. Foveon's X3 sensor captures color by measuring how deeply
> photons
> of light penetrate the surface of the imaging material. This method provides
> a higher resolution from a given number of pixels.
> 
> The new technology also enables integration of high-resolution still
> photography with full-motion video. A video camera using the technology
> could
> record an event, and midway through recording, the user could depress a
> shutter button, capture a high-resolution photograph, and seamlessly
> continue
> recording video.
> 
> Visit http://link.abpi.net/l.php?20020214A5 for more information.
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Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur?

2002-02-13 Thread John Glover

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> Why can't digital cameras shoot in B&W?
> 

The Fuji 6900z has a black and white mode, but most folks I know prefer to shoot in 
color then desaturate the image in Photoshop.  I think the real trick is being able to 
print out a decent black and white print from an inkjet printer.  Lyson makes quad 
toned black/gray inks to use in place of the colored inks but from what I have read it 
is a real hassle to use...you almost need one printer dedicated to black and white 
printing due to the laborious (and expensive) cleaning process you have to go through 
in between switching from mono to color and vice versa.
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Re: comparing FA 28-70/4 and Tokina 28-70/2.8 AF

2002-02-13 Thread John Glover

Hi Nick,

I've owned both and the Tokina is a better overall lens in terms of sharpness and 
contrast, but not by much.  As Bruce said, it is a pro level lens and delivers 
outstanding image quality.  The down side is it is big and heavy when compared to the 
28-70/4.  I found myself using my 28-70/4 much more, just due to this fact.  I never 
found the extra stop loss to be that much of a hindrance and the 28-70/4 made my Pz-1p 
seem a heck of a lot lighter!  And yes, in Pentax AF mount, the Tokina is fully 
compatible with the PZ-1p.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: comparing FA 28-70/4 and Tokina 28-70/2.8 AF


> Thanks for the reply, one other question though... Is
> it fully compatible with a camera like the pz1p?
> Thanks again!
> 
> Nick
> 
> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nick,
> > 
> > I have the current ATX 28-70 2.6-2.8 lens and I can
> > tell you that it
> > is good.  The build quality is better than the
> > Pentax and image
> > sharpness is as good or better.  Remember that this
> > is a pro grade
> > zoom. The one big area where the Pentax is clearly
> > superior is in
> > flare control. The Tokina has to be watched because
> > flare can catch
> > you quite easily.
> > 
> > Whether the extra stop is worth it or not is your
> > call.  If you find
> > that the viewfinder is too dim, you are not able to
> > get the shots you
> > want because of speed or are having to use faster
> > films that you want
> > to, then any of these would probably make the extra
> > stop worth it.
> > 
> > If, on the other hand, light weight and size or
> > great flare control
> > are more important, then the Pentax is the better
> > choice.  I chose the
> > Tokina due to needing/wanting the extra stop and the
> > Pentax 28-70/2.8
> > has many negative reviews concerning build quality
> > and the price is
> > outrageous.
> > 
> > 
> > Bruce Dayton
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Re: Pentax Macro setup recommendation

2002-02-12 Thread John Glover

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From: "Albert Fekson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Pentax Macro setup recommendation


> 2. Bearable (Damned Compromise): FA-100 f/3.5 Macro with close-up filters
> for 1:1, although this lens gets good optical scores from photodo.com, I am
> not sure if it is the best for manual focusing. Also, its only 1:2 and can't
> use Nikon's close-up lenses.

I've got the Tokina version of this lens (I think), or at least I have a Tokina 
100/3.5 macro so I imagine it is a rebadge of the Cosina/Vivitar lens.  It is a pretty 
decent lens, manual focusing is ok, but not the greatest.  Build quality is about what 
you;d expect for the price.  I found this one on KEH, as someone else had recommended, 
for $65 I believe.


> PZ-1p just for macro use. Should I be looking for a used lens, and if so
> where can I find one in Chicago? It seems that there's very little used
> Pentax gear around here.

You're right about Chicago but if you look, you can sometimes find good bargains in 
Pentax.  I got a mint MX at PJ's Photo in Glen Ellyn a couple of years ago for just 
under $100 and also found a EX FA28-105/4-5.6 at Helix Camera in Lombard.  So it is 
out there but there is just not too much.  Your best bet for used Pentax gear will 
most likely be Central Camera downtown on S. Wabash, or Helix's main store downtown at 
Jackson and Racine.  PJ's in Glen Ellyn (on Roosevelt Rd) rarely has any used Pentax,  
Helix in Lombard (Yorktown Mall)  does have some, but their pricing strikes me as 
being quite expensive for used equipment.  Outside of those stores, it is hard to find 
used Pentax gear around here.  But if you just keep looking, sometimes you find a nice 
buy!

John
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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread John Glover

Thanks Tom, I couldn't remember the specs off hand..


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From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: MV batteries


> Which probably means an S76, 357, etc.
> 
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: John Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: MV batteries
> 
> 
> > Same as the ME I'd guess, as the MV is basically a striped down version of
> the ME.  At one time I owned an MG, which I believe is the model in between
> the MV and ME and it was a pretty decent little camera.
> >
> > John
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:44 PM
> > Subject: MV batteries
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
> > > which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
> > > before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
> > > body is a bonus.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > frank
> > >
> > > --
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> > > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread John Glover

Same as the ME I'd guess, as the MV is basically a striped down version of the ME.  At 
one time I owned an MG, which I believe is the model in between the MV and ME and it 
was a pretty decent little camera.

John

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: MV batteries


> Hi,
> 
> Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
> which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
> before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
> body is a bonus.
> 
> Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?
> 
> thanks,
> frank
> 
> --
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> pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
> Oppenheimer
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Re: OT:I Need More Speed

2002-02-07 Thread John Glover

I think the original speed restriction on the telephone lines were set into law many 
years ago, maybe as far back as the 1940's.  So, at that time, 53K data transmission 
speeds seemed impossibleand we have just never seen fit to review and revise the 
law.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: OT:I Need More Speed

> So the US is full of sub-standard equipment?  Or is it a ploy to sell
> more ISDN lines?  If you or any other technical person knows the reason
> please let me know why 56k modems are limited by law to 53k in the US.
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Re: Film at airports, again

2002-02-03 Thread John Glover

We have had similar issues where I work, and I work for the US Government (Env. 
Protection Agency).  Many of field personnel who do site inspections and clean ups are 
issued radiation film badges a s a part of our safety policies.  Several of our 
on-scene coordinators have been *forced* by airport security to pass their film badges 
through the x-ray machines, and have refused to hand inspect the items.  This, in 
effect, fogs the badge and results in a reading that makes the individuals appears to 
have been exposed to a radiation source.  Thus we have to go through the hassle of 
documenting each exposure and explaining to the NRC it is not a radiation exposure, 
but bone-headed stubbornness on the part of the FAA.  In fact, my Radiation Safety 
Officer is preparing to write to FAA on just this matterand to turn over the paper 
work on documenting the "exposures" to the FAA so they can address the issue for each 
incident we have.

It is absolutely ridiculous that the FAA will not follow its own set of rules and 
regulations pertaining to hand checking of items, but hopefully if we threaten them 
with a vast amount of paperwork, they will get the word.

FWIW, the Federal Protective Service, who provide security at federal buildings, has 
been very good about working with others agencies to ensure sensitive items do not 
have to be x-rayed.  It seems FAA is just not wanting to get on board with current 
practical policies and is just "following orders" to x-ray everything.


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From: "Otis Wright, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Film at airports, again


> We going to get reasonal solutions to a lot of air travel challenges until DOT
> and FAA are overhauled -- in my opinion, they servce the carriers not the
> customers acceptance of the new security requirements notwithstanding.   These
> knee jerk, low tech reactions to the new security requirements are not going to
> foster much of a recovery for the industry --  in my opinion.  It takes time to
> catch up, but I see no indication they know where the goal posts are located.
> 
> We have reduced our air travel to only that which is just not optional.
> 
> Otis Wright
> 
> Richard Seaman wrote:
> 
> > Joe,
> >
> > I also just came back from 3 weeks overseas, carrying 75 rolls of film.
> > Like you I requested hand inspection, and at O'Hare and Houston (twice) they
> > grudgingly granted it.
> >
> > To make life easy, I always carry the film in a large clear plastic
> > ziplock bag without plastic canisters, so the film is readily visible.  They
> > swabbed it for explosives, also, but the whole bag rather than individual
> > films.
> >
> > I must say that I got very angry about the rudeness of the security
> > staff, I really felt that I was being treated like a criminal rather than a
> > customer.  I believe it is possible to be professional without being
> > obnoxious.
> >
> > Both at O'Hare and Houston I was told that the x-ray machines "wouldn't
> > affect" film under ASA1000; at Houston I lied and said I had some 1600 film
> > mixed in with the 400 and 800 which was actually in the bag.  I'm thinking
> > of buying 4 rolls of cheap 1600 film to carry with me in future so I'll have
> > more leverage with these people.  I was also told in Houston that from Feb
> > 20 or thereabouts the FAA was mandating that all film go through the
> > scanner.  I don't know if this is true or not, but you heard it here first.
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> > home phone: (1)(847) 244 5463
> > home page:  www.richard-seaman.com
> >
> > --- original message ---
> >
> > I'm just back from three weeks overseas. Departing Albuquerque airport
> > on January 13, I asked for a hand inspection of my film, as I usually do
> > at U.S. airports. Result: they opened and wiped every cannister, then
> > tested each wipe on the sniffing machine (the one they use for portable
> > computers). Then they also made me remove my shoes, and wiped and tested
> > those. As each wipe takes a few seconds, this is time consuming for the
> > quantity of film I had with me.
> >
> > Guess I won't ask for hand inspection anymore.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > _
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
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Re: Old lenses

2002-02-01 Thread John Glover

If you grind them up and eat a few, it may be an issue..


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Subject: Old lenses


> I have been following the threads about rare earth elements in old lenses
> with interest.
> I does concern me that there 'may' be a health problem with them. I love my
> Tak lenses but...
> What do people think? Is this one of those things that you have more chance
> of winning the lottery or is it a real concern?
> How many lenses were/are affected?
> does anyone know of serial ranges?
> Alan
> 
> 
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Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)

2002-01-31 Thread John Glover

Same here Bob, I spent about the same on a Fuji 6900, which is again a 3MP camera.  
I'd love to have a decent, 
sub-$1000 digital SLR body, CCD or CMOS, doesn't really matter. Canon showed it can be 
done with CMOS and done well.  Hopefully, Pentax may get the idea...:)

John

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> gfen wrote:
> > I'd LOVE to have a CHEAP digital body that
> > accepted my lenses. It wouldn't have to be
> > anything special, just to knock around with,
> > like all the other digital P&S cameras out there.
> >
> > I can't imagine I'm the only one with these
> > ideas, as well.
> 
> ME TOO.  Just laid out $700 for a Sony 3.1 Mpixel.
> Why can't I use my Pentax lenses?
> 
> Bob S.
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Re: Pre-PMA?

2002-01-30 Thread John Glover

Don't forget, Nikon uses interpolation in the D1x as well, I believe it is in the 
vertical plane, to boost their resolution numbers.  They leave the horizontal 
resolution alone though.  I always find it amusing when people gripe about the Fuji 
CCD interpolation, then compare it against a "real" camera that does not like the D1x. 
 :)

Fuji does have a lot of noise in their second generation CCD, especially at ISO400.  
It is quite good at ISO 100 and well controlled at ISO 200, but at 400, especially 
with long exposures, the noise is pretty bad.  Fuji claims in their third generation 
Super CCD, they've fixed that with new algorithms.  Time will tell I suppose...

Too bad that Pentax didn't work with Fuji on the new SLR body though.  The Fuji images 
are *very* nice from the Super CCD cameras.  I'd be ecstatic if there was a new Fuji 
digital SLR with a K-AF mount!

John


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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pre-PMA?


> Fuji uses a lot of interpolation (read that as creating pixels
> based on the pixels around them) I'm interested in reading the
> full specs and seeing the hands-on reviews when the camera is
> actually available to be tested.  APS sized CCDs or, CMOS in the
> case of the EOS D30, are not that big of a problem in my
> opinion.  To me, the most important factor is noise.  The D30 is
> perfectly usable at ISO 1600.  Others get pretty noisy at or
> above ISO 320.
> 
> Len
> ---
> 
> 
> 
> > So, fuji is making releases pre-pma on their new DSLR:
> >
> > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0201/02013003fujifilms2pro.asp
> >
> > Those must be damn small pixels!   C'mon pentax, give us some
> news!
> >
> > Personally, I hope that Pentax makes something with a chip
> that's at least
> > this big.   1.6x is kinda crazy (a la D30) IMHO.
> >
> > -Ryan Brooks
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=172402
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Re: New Pro Fuji

2002-01-30 Thread John Glover

I own a Fuji 6900z, which uses the second generation Super CCD.  The 6900z had a 
standard 3.1Mp CCD and give an interpolated image of just a bit over 6 Mp.  However, I 
tend not to shoot in the 6Mp mode as for most of my shots, there is no real advantage 
in quality that I can see.  I rarely make anything beyond an 8x10, so the 3Mp 
resolution is generally enough.  The advantage I see to using the 6Mp mode comes in 
when you need to crop and enlarge a photo in Photoshop.  I use Genuine Fractals and 
I've found the 6 Mp mode give GF plenty of data to work with when setting up a cropped 
and enlarged shot.  Beyond that, there is not much advantage to 6Mp...unless you want 
to brag about your megapixels!!

Actually, most reviewers equate the resolution in the 6Mp mode to be equivalent to 
about 4 to 4.5 Mp in qualityso you guessttimataion of 8 Mp effective resolution is 
probably about on the mark.

John

PS -- One really nice thing I've found with Fuji's Super CCD is the colors are pretty 
darned good.most photos need very littlle color correction work and many times are 
very good straight out of the camera.  That's nice if you want to print off a couple 
of quick shots from your media card at the local digital kiosk.


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From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: New Pro Fuji


> pixels). The file size is around 12 million pixels (definition 2). I
> would say that whilst the real resolution of SuperCCd is exaggerated,
> you do get around 1.4x more usable information, so I would expect the S2
> to come in at just under 8 megapixels.
> 
> Even if you ignore the whole Super CCD controversy, a 6 million pixel
> SLR for £2700 is pretty interesting.  Kinda makes the MZ-d(V2) seem
> outta date already dont it?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rob Brigham 
> > Sent: 30 January 2002 11:11
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: New Pro Fuji
> > 
> > 
> > Fuji are still using APS sized CCDs. We will see about Contax...
> > 
> > Interesting that the S2Pro has "6.17 million effective pixels 
> > delivers a
> > massive 12 million pixel image". Presumably this means that it is an
> > effective, effective 12MegaPixel camera! I wonder what the real pixel
> > count is? Just like marketing to quote 12Million by interpolating the
> > interpolation. In theory they could just as easily quote an infinite
> > mega pixel count by including genuine fractals!
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 30 January 2002 05:14
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: New Pro Fuji
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Big news--Fuji have introduced a 6.17 megapixel "Super CCD 
> > > III" camera based
> > > on the Nikon N80 that allegedly offers real improvements in 
> > > sensitivity to
> > > the equivalent of ISO 1600 with little noise. Check it out:
> > > 
> > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0201/02013003fujifilms2pro.asp
> > > 
> > > --Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Photography is simple. The only complicated thing is keeping 
> > > it simple."
> > > (Ken Archer)
> > > 
> > > * * *
> > > Find out about Mike Johnston's unique photography newsletter, 
> > > "The 37th
> > > Frame," at http://www.37thframe.com.
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Re: Some e-marketing thoughts

2002-01-30 Thread John Glover

I always feel if you want to set a reserve on an item, then use that as your opening 
bid.  Granted, if the price is set too high, you will get no bids, but then I suppose 
that means you are overvaluing the item, based upon what the current market will bear. 
 I'll sometimes bid on an item with a reserve price if it really interests me, but it 
is not an auction I'll typically follow closely, for the reasons you cite. 


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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Some e-marketing thoughts


> I, for one, usually don't bid on Reserve Auctions.  That is an oxymoron 
> to me.  In an auction, the seller puts an item up for bid and a 
> competition between bidders sets the price.  It seems to me that you 
> are bidding against the seller in a Reserve Auction and really have no 
> idea if you will get the item or just waste your time.
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Re: Vivitar Series 1 28-105, Sigma 35-85, vs. new Tokina 28-105

2002-01-28 Thread John Glover

A really nice new lens on your budget would be the Tamron 28-105/4-5.6 or the Tokina 
28-105.  Both are terrific values for the money.  The Tamron is nice and light and a 
really decent performer.generally around $150 or so new (I paid $158 for mine).  
The Tokina is heavier and a better build, and a bit closer to the $200 mark I think, 
but an excellent lens.  Both of these are autofocus lens, ideal for the ZX-5n.

I've heard nothing but bad things about the Sigma 28-105/2.8-4...not real sharp, poor 
contrast, not a very highly rated lens.  The Vivitar has been rated both as generally 
pretty good, or generally pretty lousy..depends on whose review you look at!

The FA28-70/4 is outstanding!  It is a bit slow but if you go with the new 800 speed 
films, you just might be alright.  A really good lens in the 28-70/2.8 category is a 
used Tokina, but these are probably a bit over your budget...they seem to list and 
sell for around $235 or so in good condition.

John
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From: "Debra Wilborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Vivitar Series 1 28-105, Sigma 35-85, vs. new Tokina 28-105


> I'm looking for a relatively fast zoom lens to start
> on a Pentax ZX-5n.  Budget is a consideration, around
> $150 new or used.  I was looking at used lenses and
> saw two that looked interesting: the Vivitar series 1
> 28-105 f2.8-3.8 and Sigma 35-85 f2.8-4.
> 
> Can someone tell me a little more about these lenses? 
> Are they autofocus, or at least auto-aperature?  I've
> read that the Vivitar is a varifocal design.  Is this
> true of the Sigma as well?  Is varifocal a pain or an
> improvement in image quality?
> 
> Somewhere I read that the Vivitar has a minimum focus
> distance of almost 5 feet.  That's a little too far
> out there.  Does anyone know or can guess as to the
> minimun focus of the Sigma?  I can't find any specs on
> it.
> 
> As far as new lenses go, I was looking at the Sigma
> 28-105 f2.8-4 and maybe the Tokina 28-70 f3.5-4.5 or
> 28-105 in the same focal length.  The Tokina isn't
> very fast, but I've been wondering about it, too. 
> Some think very highly of Tokina lenses and I'd like
> to know how they stack up against the others.
> 
> I know someone will recommend the Pentax 28-70 f4;
> however, I think it will be a bit too slow.  I would
> like to shoot in existing light in concert halls and
> do some night photography around town.
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> Deb
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Re: FA 28-105 mm f/4-5.6

2002-01-27 Thread John Glover

Not exactly side by side, but I did own the Tamron lens, which was the same without 
the SMC and electronics.  It was a good lens, but I found the performance of the 
Pentax PZ to be a bit better, more contrast and better color.  That may have been due 
to the SMC coatings, but overall, I was happier with the old PZ version.  however, the 
Tamron is a very nice and compact lens, as well as quite light when compared to the 
Pentax PZ lens.


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From: "Ayash Kanto Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: FA 28-105 mm f/4-5.6


> Hallo John!
> 
> Thanks for your views.
> I still have a small question, if you don't mind. The one with IF has 15
> elements in 12 groups while the one with power zoom has 13 elements with
> 11 groups. Don't you think that the IF one could have closer optical
> performance to its power zoom counterpart if not equal?
> Have you compared the two lenses side by side? Just inquisitive.
> I apologise beforehand if I am disturbing you.
> 
> With regards,
> Ayash.
> 
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, John Glover wrote:
> 
> > No question, the old power zoom is a much better lens.
> > One of the best in its class.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ayash Kanto Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:15 PM
> > Subject: FA 28-105 mm f/4-5.6
> >
> >
> > > Hallo all!
> > >
> > > According to Boz's K-mount page, PENTAX produces two FA lenses in the
> > > range 28-105mm f/4-5.6
> > >
> > > One has power zoom option and the other one has IF (Internal Focussing).
> > > Boz has also stated that the one with IF is possibly fabricated by Tamron
> > > wth genuine PENTAX electroncs and SMC coating.
> > >
> > > How does the optical performance of the one with IF compares with the one
> > > with Power Zoom?
> > >
> > > Inquisitive.
> > > - Ayash.
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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-27 Thread John Glover

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Subject: This List Should Have Warning Labels...


> Geez...
 
> A week or two after joining the list, I took the plunge and bought a PZ-1p
> with a handy-dandy 28-70 f/4 zoom, and have been obsessing mightily.


Yeah, but you can always show your wife how much money you have saved her by getting 
the PZ-1p/FA28-70/4 combojust show her how much something similar from Canon or 
Nikon would have cost! :)

Great set up by the way, that's mine as well, plus I added the old FA28-105/4-5.6 
power zoom model for those times when I need more reach..oh yeah, then there was 
the Tokina 19-35mm...and then the MX and an A50/1.4.  and a 100/3.5 
macroand...LOL

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Re: FA 28-105 mm f/4-5.6

2002-01-27 Thread John Glover

No question, the old power zoom is a much better lens.  
One of the best in its class.


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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:15 PM
Subject: FA 28-105 mm f/4-5.6


> Hallo all!
> 
> According to Boz's K-mount page, PENTAX produces two FA lenses in the
> range 28-105mm f/4-5.6
> 
> One has power zoom option and the other one has IF (Internal Focussing).
> Boz has also stated that the one with IF is possibly fabricated by Tamron
> wth genuine PENTAX electroncs and SMC coating.
> 
> How does the optical performance of the one with IF compares with the one
> with Power Zoom?
> 
> Inquisitive.
> - Ayash.
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Re: for the collectors

2002-01-25 Thread John Glover

It's not just your post, but there are generally several posts with eBay links (and 
they are not specific to PDML, but other lists as well) that have no clue as to what 
they lead to.  It would be nice to at least have a brief description of the item, 
since someone went to all the trouble to post it, I'd like to know what it was before 
I delete.  However, as I often read my messages off-line, I am not in the position to 
click on every blind link that comes along.


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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: for the collectors


> well, actually, yes if they are interested in a collector's item.  Just as 
> someone earlier today sent a url for an auction of a giant Spotmatic which 
> generated a butt-load of messages all day long (which i deleted in bulk).
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Re: for the collectors

2002-01-25 Thread John Glover

I agree with this.generally I never even check these out if there is no 
description, for this very reason.  often I read off-line and do not have the ability 
to get online, so the link just goes into the deleted item file.  At least give a 
description of what it is, then if I'm interested, I can always make the point to 
check it out next time I am online.


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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: for the collectors


> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1325207033
> 
> Christian, do you really want everyone who is a member of the PDML
> to log on to the net and then download that URL just to see if it
> has something of interest to him/her?
> 
> Fred
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Re: Pentax A 70-210/4 or Tokina AT-X 80-200/2.8???

2002-01-25 Thread John Glover

For sports work, I'd go for the extra stop of speed and get the Tokina.  I've not used 
the 80-200/2.8 but have used the 28-70/2.8 and it was an excellent lens.

John


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Subject: Pentax A 70-210/4 or Tokina AT-X 80-200/2.8???


> Which of these two lenses would be the better choice?
> I am a photojournalist at a daily paper and shoot lots
> of sports. The Pentax f4 is selling at KEH for about
> $150 (Exc Plus), and the AT-X at KEH for about $200
> (bargain cond).
> 
> Nick
> 
> =
> Nick Wright
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Re: Flash for ZX-M ?

2002-01-24 Thread John Glover

Hi Debra,

If you want a good Pentax flash, look around for an AF280T.  It is TTL compatible, but 
it also has two autoflash ranges, bounce and swivel.  I picked one up from KEH for $50 
used, they tend to go on eBay for around $75-100.  New, the AF280T is about a $160 or 
so.  Another good buy at around the $70 price point is either a Vivitar 283 or a 
Sunpak 383 Super. These are new prices for the Vivitar and Sunpak units.  The 283 has 
been a pro workhorse flash for years, and the 383 is basically Sunpak's copy of 
Vivitar's successful flash.

If you do not need the bounce or swivel, the Pentax AF200T is another excellent flash, 
again TTL compatible but with two auto ranges plus a variable power manual mode.  
These often sell for about $30-50 and it is a terrific little flash.  I own both the 
280 and 200 and they work well on the ZX-M.  Plus if you ever decide to upgrade to a 
TTL compatible body, you will not need a new flash.  I've used both these flashes on 
my MX, ZX-M and PZ-1p and they work flawlessly.  My favorite on the ZX-M is the AF200T 
though, mainly for the size of it.  Unless you really need bounce capability, this 
works well on that body.

As far as second curtain sync goes, the ZX-M does not support this feature, IIRC.

Enjoy!

John


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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Flash for ZX-M ?


> I've been told that the camera does not use TTL
> metering, so the flash will need its own sensor. 
> Low-light photography interests me, so I would like to
> find something that does second-curtain sync.  Unless
> of course the camera does not support second-curtain
> sync.  Then it wouldn't matter.  What does matter is
> price.  I'm looking to spend less than $100, or better
> yet, less than $70 and have no problem with used
> equipment if it works.
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Re: Rikenon 50mm matchup?

2002-01-15 Thread John Glover

Your Rikenon lens has the Ricoh P mount, which is not compatible with the K-A mount.  
While it will fit, as it is a standard K-mount, the electrical contacts are placed 
where Ricoh wants them to function with Ricoh bodies, not where Pentax places them.   
The Ricoh-P and Pentax K-A are not compatible, electrically speaking

Another note, on Pentax AF bodies, the Ricoh contacts will jam the AF mechanism and 
lock the lens on the camera, making it quite difficult to remove, so use caution f you 
ever get a Pentax AF bodies with Ricoh-P lenses.

John

- Original Message - 
From: "Leonard & Peggy Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: Rikenon 50mm matchup?


> I just switched to an MZ-M from my trusty K-1000 a few months ago and have
> been VERY slow in reading the manual.  Tonight I just got to the "automatic
> aperture" adjustment on the lens.  While my Ricoh Rikenon 50mm lens has no
> "A"
> setting on the aperture ring it does have a "P" which I assume is for
> "Program".  I set it to "P" but nothing happened, it is still acting like
> I should be setting the aperture by hand.  The camera is not responding to
> this setting.
> 
> I run a small repair shop and have to think lots of these things out I
> figured there must be some electrical contact with the lens so the camera
> would know when it is in "Automatic".  Sure enough I found the little copper
> contact button on the bottom of the lens.
> 
> BUT... the little contact does in no way match up with the camera's contact
> points... what gives?
> 
> Did pentax move their contact points?   While this is a K mount lens was it
> made to work on some other camera?
> 
> Please, talk slow!
> 
> Leonard//Laredo
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Re: Pentax FA 28-105

2002-01-12 Thread John Glover

I agree, it looks like my 28-105 PZ lensand you would think the seller should know 
as the seller is Columbus Camera Group in Ohio..scares me if a camera store cannot 
recognize what model a standard zoom lens actually is.  But then again, maybe they do 
not know what the price ought to be either! :)

John

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Subject: Re: Pentax FA 28-105


> It looks like the power zoom model. Seller probably just doesn't know.
> Ask for a photo of the other side to see if the pz switch is there. Good
> price - grab it.
> 
> Joe
> 
> P.S. I've found that this lens balances nicely on the MZ-S.
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Re: Mint MX on Ebay, low BIN

2002-01-10 Thread John Glover

It depends on the camera store.  With all the emphasis on the so-called professional 
brands :),  I was able to pick up a near perfect MX in a local shop for a mere $113.  
I've often thought about putting it on eBay since I'm sure I could pay for it an then 
some, but I just cannot bear to part with it...

John

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Mint MX on Ebay, low BIN


> Good grief, I wonder what I could get for my even-mintier-than-that one.
> Especially as mint seems to mean "missing the winder cover and that little 
> black thing on the shutter lock".
> Although having said that, $179 is cheaper than the going rate for an MX in 
> the used camera stores, if you can find one.
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Re: PZ-1p and lens ordered

2002-01-10 Thread John Glover

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From: "Marc Schlotthauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: PZ-1p and lens ordered


> I ordered my PZ-1p from B&H ($479.95), and ordered the 28-70/4 from KEH in 
>"Excellent"
> condition for $109 - can't beat that. 

Excellent choice here..I've got both and while the 28-70/4 is an outstanding lens, 
it feels a tad light on the PZ-1p.  You will be like me I imagine, and be purchasing a 
FA28-105/4-5.6 some time in the near future! :)

> 
> This will be the first time I've owned an SLR without having a compatible 50mm
> prime (which feels very strange), but I don't think the 50/1.4 will be far off

Another great choice in 50mm lenses is the F 50mm/1.7.  But the real beauty of the 
PZ-1p is you can use *any* K-mount 50mm lens on it.  If you look around, M and A 
series 50mm are all over eBay, and can usually be gotten quite cheaply as most people 
look down on the 50mm lens these days

John
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Re: 280T

2002-01-09 Thread John Glover

Sorry about that Cory.but I've been looking for one of these for a long time, 
as well as a good BGN AF500FTZ for the same price!  I'll be looking for that one for a 
long time I bet...:)

John


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Subject: Re: 280T


> RRRG! That one was supposed to be MINE!
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Re: 280T

2002-01-08 Thread John Glover

I picked one up from KEH about two weeks ago, BGN condition for $49.  Overall in good 
shape but the Pentax logo across the front was a bit worn.  Just adds character though 
as the flash works flawlessly.  You'll love the AF280T.

John

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: 280T


> Going to look at a AF280T Wednesday after work,
> I'm so exited.Now if i could only decide on a scanner
> life would be good.
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Re: Self enabled

2001-12-07 Thread John Glover

The third version, the f/2.8-4.0, is the one I have and it is quite good lens.  It 
seems to be very under-rated too from what I've read on Bob Monahagn's website 
(http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/third/cult.html#steve).  I suppose that is because of 
the variable aperture perhaps. In any event, there is a good discussion of the Vivitar 
Series 1's lens and this web site gives a nice history of them.Anyone know where I 
SR1 200/3.0? :)

John


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From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Self enabled


> > While browsing one of our local camera shops today I came across the
> > Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 that's been on their website for several
> > months.  It so happened that the owner was available today and advised
> > me he would sell it for $99.00 US.  That was enough for me to do some
> > self enabling, couldn't resist.
> 
> Which version, Bill - the first-generation with the 67mm filter
> threads, or the second-generation w/62mm (the version I used to use a
> lot)?
> 
> Fred
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Re: Spotted on eBay

2001-12-01 Thread John Glover

Probably the best way to do it, but I was using eBay's iPix service and it 
automatically uploads the pictures for you, so there was no URL for my pictures, they 
were tied to my auction.  I was just trying to get everything listed by this weekend 
as I'm out of town next weekend and I wanted to get this wrapped up before I left.

And yes, thanks for the publicity...the check is in the mail. I sent it via 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:)

John

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Subject: Re: Spotted on eBay


> 
> Probably best to put the url so at least it *looks* like you tried to upload 
> them. Hey, think of all the free publicity Cotty, Mark, and I have generated 
> for you. 
> 
> That'll be $20, please
> 
> Kind regards from sunny Brighton
> 
> Peter
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Re: Spotted on eBay

2001-11-30 Thread John Glover

That  was my thought when I first bought this lens, shouldn't it be a variable 
aperture lens?The newer ones seem nicer in finish, especially the 28-80 AT-X, but this 
is a nicely speced lensoptical quality does not appear to be compromised in any 
version of this lens.  I've been happy with the lens, but just do not seem to use it 
enough.  I seem to favor my FA28-105 or the 28-70/4 over this lens.  Plus, I want a 
new digital camera, so I've decided to try to get rid of some my 35mm gear I just no 
longer seem to useplus that way it also keeps peace with the wife toolook, I'm 
buying this digicam with proceeds from my 35mm gearLOL

John



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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Spotted on eBay


> "John Glover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >They do make this lens as I have it in front of me right now
> 
> Doh! Never thought they might have made one in the past that isn't in the
> current catalog. Felling dumb.
> 
> >And I do have pictures:)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> www.robertstech.com
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Re: Carbon black

2001-07-30 Thread John Glover

Possibly yes, but copy toner is a mixture of carbon black (or some other pigment) plus 
usually a styrene-acrylic copolymer which is what is used by the fuser roll to heat 
set the image from a photocopy.  So, while there is carbon black there, there is also 
other nasty polymeric compounds you'd probably not want to place on your glass.

John

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Subject: OT: Carbon black


>  Would this be carbon black (lamp black)?
> 



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Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1251500453: Pentax Super Program 35 mm Camera Outfit

2001-07-05 Thread John Glover

Interesting, you'd think a pro photographer would at least have an AF200T (though the 
AF280T would be the more obvious choice I think) for his "pro" outfit.  I mean, why 
both to get a Super Program, which has TTL flash, then cripple the capabilities by 
using a non-TTL flash unit on it.  Plus, I find the use of the 135/2.5 Tak to be 
another interesting "pro" choice here.

Also, isn't it clever who disengagedman also happens to have the rhstamps web site as 
a part of his description.  It certainly does make one wonder how he just happened to 
"find" this item..or yeahhe's a  "pro"

Looks more like someone who spammed the photo newsgroups and mail lists to me.

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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1251500453: Pentax Super Program 35 mm 
Camera Outfit


> I saw this item for sale at eBay, the world's largest personal trading community, 
>and thought that you might be interested.
> 
> Title of item: Pentax Super Program 35 mm Camera Outfit
> Seller: disengagedman
> Starts: Jun-29-01 17:54:13 PDT
> Ends: Jul-09-01 17:54:13 PDT
> Price: Starts at $350.00
> To bid on the item, go to: 
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1251500453
> 
> 
> Item Description: 
> The Disengaged man is a professional photographer with a fine art studio in Buffalo, 
>NY area (Collins, NY 25 miles south) who has upgraded his equipment.
> 
> -  Pentax Super Program 35mm Camera Outfit (Rated #1 in 
>Consumers Reports) Shot only 15 rolls of film Ex++   
>Condition
> 
> -  Pentax Super Program 35 mm SLR Body
> -  Pentax SMCP 35-105 f.3.5 Zoom Lens
> -  Pentax Motor Drive A ($500+ New)
> -  Pentax Takumar Bayonet Mt 135 f. 2.5 telephoto lens
> -  Pentax SA 200 Flash (dedicated to Super Program)
> -  Skylight Filter
> 
> REFERENCES:  See website www.rhstamps.com  Look under resume.
> 
> Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com
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Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-08 Thread John Glover

500 kg, now that's a real MAN'S bag..


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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: What Do You Carry


> attached to my camera bag is a small carabiner - 500kg
> 
> inside the bag are:
> 
> a Leitz table top tripod,
> ..

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Re: A 100/2.8 vs. FA 100/3.5 vs. Tamron SP 90/2.5

2001-05-03 Thread John Glover

I just picked up a Tokina AF 100/3.5 macro from KEH.  I'm assuming this is the same 
lens as the FA 100/3.5 minus the SMC coating.  It goes only to 1:2 as KEH, naturally, 
did not have the life size adapter.  Based upon the look and feel, I'm pretty sure 
this is the same Cosina made lens that the same as the Vivitar/Phoenix/Pentax 100/3.5. 
 I was just never knew they made it for Tokina. 

A test roll shows it to be surprisingly sharp and with good contrast.  However, I'm 
wondering if it too sharp to be a portrait lens.  I do very little portraiture, mainly 
pictures of my son, but I'd assume most macro lens may be too sharp to portrait work, 
as they'd accentuate any blemishes to be a bit too noticeable.  

John


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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: A 100/2.8 vs. FA 100/3.5 vs. Tamron SP 90/2.5


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > A 100/2.8
> > FA 100/3.5
> > Tamron SP 90/2.5 (manual)
> > 
> > Which one is optically the best for portrait photography?
> 
> Don't know about the A 100/2.8, but the FA 100/3.5 is definitely better
> than the tamron. The tamron is sharp, but a bit flarey. It's built
> better though...
> 
> tv
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Re: PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread John Glover

I'd forgotten about the mudslidesanyone know of a really steep hill where I can 
build my $2 million dream house??

John

("dream" being the key word there!)

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Subject: Re: PUG Themes


> Just show us pictures of the dust of an earthquake or the anguish of an
> owner watching his home in a mud slide down a hill, or the fire of one of
> the out of control brush fires. Maybe a tidal wave wiping out a Malibu home.
> 
> HAR
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: PUG Themes
> 
> 
> > The October 2002 gallery theme "Bad Weather" is exclusionary and unfair to
> > Southern California residents as we are seldom plummeted with hydro
> meteors,
> > blown by atmospheric vortexes or subject to other meteorological maladies
> > during this time of year.
> >
> > Har!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob...
> >
> > Give blood. Play hockey.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 1:58 PM
> > Subject: PUG Themes
> >
> >
> > > The recent bruahua regarding exclusionary gallery themes has
> > > caused me to take another look at the upcoming themes. Please
> > > have a look at:
> > > http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
> > > for information regarding this page update.
> > > Thanks
> > > William Robb
> >
> >
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Re: PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread John Glover

Well, I suppose you could stretch the interpretation to include earthquakeswe may 
have our fair share of atmospherics vortices here in the Midwest, but at least the 
land beneath our feet is solid! (or, it has been since the New Madrid incident of 1811)

John


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Subject: Re: PUG Themes


> The October 2002 gallery theme "Bad Weather" is exclusionary and unfair to
> Southern California residents as we are seldom plummeted with hydro meteors,
> blown by atmospheric vortexes or subject to other meteorological maladies
> during this time of year.
> 
> Har!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
> 
> Give blood. Play hockey.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 1:58 PM
> Subject: PUG Themes
> 
> 
> > The recent bruahua regarding exclusionary gallery themes has
> > caused me to take another look at the upcoming themes. Please
> > have a look at:
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
> > for information regarding this page update.
> > Thanks
> > William Robb
> 
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Re: OT Re: LX Gallery

2001-04-27 Thread John Glover

Ok, I know what vegemite is, as one of my friend's roommates in college was from Oz, 
but what is marmite?

Marmoset paste?? LOL


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> petit miam writes:
> 
> > I think it should be Marmite vs Vegemite. BTW Vegemite
> > is far superior.
> 
>  No bloody way.  That stuff is disgusting.  There's not much better than a 
> nuked cheese & marmite sandwich... 


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Re: Re: Telezoom

2001-04-24 Thread John Glover

The Takumar F 70-210 zoom is NOT the same lens as the SMC-F 70-210..there are 
indeed two separate version, with the SMC-F being miles ahead of the Takumar F.  The 
Takumar F's were basic, low budget entry level type AF lenses without the SMC coating 
if I recall correctly.

John

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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Telezoom


> oh no!!!
> 
> this is killing me, I checked KEH and
> it has the following lens:
> Pentax 70-210 f/4.0-5.6 Takumar F Autofocus.
> There are, indeed a bunch for less than $100.
> 
> 

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Re: telezoom, part III

2001-04-24 Thread John Glover

Are you sure this is the SMC-F 70-210, and not the Takumar-F version?I purchased my 
SMC-F from KEH about a year ago for $140 in BGN conditionlast time I checked, 
about a month ago, the SMC-F in BGN was going for $115.

John

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: telezoom, part III


> WOW...just checked the KEH websight...these lenses in
> excellent con. are selling for $80.!!!
> --- K C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OK,  I think I've settled on the following lens,
> > thanks to everyone's insight and experience:
> > 
> > Pentax F 70-210 f/4.0-5.6  (autofocus)
> > 
> > It'll be my first (and probably only) telezoom.
> > Unfortunately, I've been told it was discontinued
> > some time ago, replaced with an FA 70-200, which
> > leads me to my dumb question of the week
> > (is anyone keeping count?)
> > Where can I find one of these?  (and what's
> > a fair price?)
> > 
> > thanks!
> >
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Re: In Praise of my amazing new Pentax: The ME super!!!

2001-04-18 Thread John Glover

I believe that little orange barred gizmo whirls around as you advance the film to let 
you know your film is actually moving onto the take up spoolkind of a built in 
insurance policy against mis-loaded film.

I'm glad you like the ME Super, it is a great little. Like you, I've owned my share of 
Pentax cameras including both the MG and ME Super.  I loved my ME Super as well but 
unfortunately the shutter died on me and the repair cost was almost as much as I could 
pick up a "new" one off of eBay...

Damn, now I'm feeling enabled..

John

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Subject: In Praise of my amazing new Pentax: The ME super!!!


> 
> Just one thing. There's a little window on the back of the top plate
> below the winder, with little black and orange bars in it. Whatzit?
> 


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Re: Ebay Auction...

2001-04-04 Thread John Glover

But, if the buyer says they will post to the US only, then why are they advertising 
this auction of the eBay Australia site? Something seems wrong here with the shipping 
fee it seems to me. There is no reason at all to post an auction on the Australian 
eBay site, yet state you will only ship to the US

John
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Subject: Re: Ebay Auction...


> Cy Galley wrote:
> > 
> > The ad specifically says "BUYER PAYS $8 SHPG/HDLG."  I think you are the one
> > that should send out a bad feedback. They are not meeting their end of the
> > bargain. Write to ebay and ask for their advise.  I understand that you are
> > in Australia, but the increase should not be that much.  They are trying to
> > take advantage of you.
> 
> If we go by what the initial offering said, don't forget that little
> bit that mentioned "seller will ship to North America only".  You can't
> simply claim that they aren't honoring their end of the deal - their
> deal explicitly excluded overseas deliveries.


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Re: OT Rob's setiathome milestone, Yipeeee!!

2001-04-02 Thread John Glover

I've got 90 units here as well, with 91 processing its little guts out as we speak. 
But, I've noticed my processor time seem much longer, almost 5400 hours for 90 units.  
But then again, I don't always send my work unit immediately after it has finished, so 
I'm wondering if the software is actually counting only the processing time or the 
actual time the work unit is in your PC. I've got a Pentium II 400Mhz, so it seems it 
should run faster than this.

John

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> Cool. We only started doing it recently and have processed less than 20
> units. And speaking of the search for life more intelligent than ourselves
> (after all, that IS what we're doing), I'm in the process of acquiring press
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Re: eBay fun

2001-03-18 Thread John Glover

Speaking of eBay fun, anyone been able to input a new item this evening?  I'm trying 
to list an HP Photo cartridge and I CANNOT get past this damned screen wanting me to 
download eBay's picture hosting service.  Even though I check no thank I do not want 
to install this software, the damned message keeps popping up, even though I have 
checked the box stating I do not use pictureshow does one get around this bull 
and on to the seller's pages??

This is becoming most annoying...

John

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Subject: eBay fun


> 
> Okay, people, count the mistakes, inaccuracies, and misleading bits in
> this auction:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1223185089
> 
> I counted at least seven big ones (not including spelling or grammar
> errors, as these are understandable if English isn't their first
> language... except for "Ashai," which is spelled correctly on the lens
> *L*).  This includes two innacurate statements in one 16-word
> sentence.  :)  Have fun!
> 
> chris
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Re: Phoenix AF Zoom 100-400 in Pentax mount

2001-03-15 Thread John Glover

Not a very highly rated lens, especially at the long end, quite soft with low 
contrast.  But, if you want one, B&H Photo, www.bhphotovideo, has one listed in this 
month's Popular Photography, brand new, for $199.95.  The aperture is f/4.5-6.7, so it 
is on the slow side as well...

Personally, I'd pass on this lens.  For the same money, ($200 from B&h), you can get 
the Sigma 70-300/4-5.6 DL Super Macro, also brand new.  This lens has got very good 
reviews and I believe some list members own it and are happy with the overall 
performance versus its price. Throw on a 1.4x teleconverter and you'll get to 420mm at 
f/8.

I've used the Tamron 100-300/5-6.3 before and was generally pleased with the results 
there. That lens is currently selling at around $175, but has a $20 rebate from 
Tamron, so your net cost is about $155.

John

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Subject: Phoenix AF Zoom 100-400 in Pentax mount


> Spotted on ebay 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1220737145
> 
> Phoenix 100-400 AF Zoom (max.& min. F-stop not given) with buy it now offer 
> of $265.00. Accordingly, the MSRP on this lens is $500.00+ as per seller.
> 
> Is anybody on the list familiar with this brand and this particular model. 
> I'd be appreciative of any input from the group regarding it's qualities (or 
> lack thereof), performance, durability etc.
> 
> I'm a newcomer to the list BTW.
> 
> 
> Paulo
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Re: When does a 35-135 zoom have a 10:1 range?

2001-03-12 Thread John Glover

Do they still charge $4 for bipedal manual? :)


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> Ken Archer wrote:
> > 
> > I did and I'm still trying to figure out how to make it zoom ;-)
> 
> It employs the advanced and complicated bipedal zoom mechanism.
> 
> You may need to get a manual from Pentax.
> 
> tv
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:12:27 -0600, Dan Scott wrote:
> > >
> > > >I saw a "50/1.7 Zoom Lens" yesterday. :-)
> > >
> > > Man, you should have grabbed that sucker! Talk about RARE!  :-))
> > >
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Re: What do you shoot with 50mm? (was: FA 50mm f/1.4)

2001-03-12 Thread John Glover

Except for the FA 28-70/4 AL, probably among the best of the 'standard' 28-70 out 
there..Also, the F 28-80 is also a good lens as well.  I've never used the F 
28-80 but do have the 28-70/4 and for the money, you'll not find a better lens in its 
class, IMHO.

John



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>  (And many of the now 'standard' size zooms, (in the 28-70 or 28-80
> category,) have terrible ratings. Especially the Pentax's, sorry to say...)
> But there are good 3rd party standard range zooms available too. Just check
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Re: For Sale Tokina 80-400 AF Zoom Lens!

2001-03-10 Thread John Glover

Proof coins are struck on specially polished and prepared dies, to give the coin the 
highest quality mirrored and frosted finish possible. They are never intended for 
circulation.  A mint state coin is a perfect example of a production run coin.

John

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Subject: Re: For Sale Tokina 80-400 AF Zoom Lens!


> If you're talking about coin collecting, then even that has a grade above
> mint called "proof."  Proof is fresh from the mint, absolutely
> perfect.  This could easily be the effect that the seller was trying to


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Re: What you shootin' this weekend?

2001-03-03 Thread John Glover

Going to try to track down a pair of bald eagles reported at a local forest preserve 
this weekend.I'll be using the 400/5.6 K along with the PZ-1p.

John

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> Well, last night I noticed there were several hundred Mallards in the
> marsh down the street. I'll probably see if I can sneak up on them with
> an LX, a 400/5.6 K, monopod, and perhaps some Portra 800.


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Re: Pentax USA's communication with its dealers

2001-03-01 Thread John Glover

I had a similar experience today as well...I stop by a very BIG camera sore in 
downtown Chicago to get a few small items and just out of curiosity asked to see a 
24-90.they actually had 3 in stock...but when I asked about the MZ-S, all I 
got was a blank look.

John

BTWprices for the 24-90 here in Chicago is $549.


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> Stopped by my local pentax dealer to pick up a part today. While paying, I
> asked if they were going to stock the new body. That was the first they'd
> heard of it. They even pulled out all their Pentax literature and checked.
> 
> How does Pentax stay in business?
> 
> Dan Scott
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> 
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Re: eBay madness

2001-03-01 Thread John Glover

Well, you've got two guys with zero feedback in an apparent bidding war over who is 
going to get this, most likely "rare and minty" gem

The seller will probably never see the money..

John

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Subject: eBay madness


> 
> Over $100 for an A 50mm F1.7 lens?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1216233420
> 
> Todd
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Re: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It Worth It ! )

2001-02-26 Thread John Glover

Although, if you go into Central Camera in downtown Chicago, the president of the 
store is always seen wearing his Pentax SF-1n pocket protector.

Maybe that explains why they've been around for 102 years!

John

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> In a message dated 2/26/01 9:55:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << I was visiting a local camera shop, and was talking with one of the 
> salepeople.  He is a N afficionado, and since the store only handles the 
> ZX series, had no idea that the PZ-1p even existed.  >>
> 
> When visiting local "camera" shops (read: Nikon/Canon shops), I've discovered 
> PENTAXaphobia is a standard illness among store personnel and owners.
> 
> Mafud
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Re: LX & Lens Motherlode

2001-02-26 Thread John Glover

So, based on the proxy bid system, the reserve must have been $9,900, assuming the 
previous bid of $8,900 did not meet reserve.  The proxy will take you up to your 
maximum bid, or the reserve as I understand


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> The winning bidder played it perfectly. He placed his only bid of the
> auction with 21 seconds to go, and it was substantially over the
> existing high bid. That's how you win ebay auctions.
> Paul
> 
> "Gary L. Murphy" wrote:
> > 
> > Seems that the motherlode of LX and lens stuff went for, $9,900.00!
> > 
> > Later,
> > Gary
> > 
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Re: LX & Lens Motherlode

2001-02-26 Thread John Glover


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Subject: Re: LX & Lens Motherlode


> A*135/1.8, and ~26.00~ for a K-mount body cap.  It's nice to
> have that kind of money.


Yes Shel, but was it an *original* K-mount body cap?  :)

John

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Re: Further on compacts

2001-02-26 Thread John Glover


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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Further on compacts


> 
> Second that.  I got a Stylus Epic over Christmas, just so I can carry a
> camera about at all times (even when it isn't convenient).  I find that it's
> OK, although getting the thing to lock on to the appropriate focus point
> takes a little learning.  And a spot meter!  Try finding that on another
> P&S!
> 

That's another point I forget to mention, Epic does indeed have a spot meter...the 
original Stylus does not.  But, either body makes a perfect carry camera, easy to 
stuff into a shirt pocket and still have decent glass to use w/o the SLR kit.  Though, 
an MX with a 40 pancake...except pretty soon that rare 40 is gonna cost more than 
and FA 28-70/2.8 if eBay is any indication! :)

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Re: Further on compacts

2001-02-26 Thread John Glover

Pricewise though, the Olympus Stylus cameras are a real bargain, especially if you can 
find the older, original Stylus. While it has only a 35/3.5 lens, you are only losing 
about half a stop over the Stylus Epic (Mju II).  I picked one up when the Stylus Epic 
was released because the local camera stores were almost giving away the original 
Stylus cameras.  I think I found mine for $69, brand new, at one of the chain discount 
stores, while the new Stylus epic was going for about $125.

However, the original Stylus is not weatherproofed like the new one, so if that is an 
issue, you should go with the Epic. But, either of these two cameras will take 
excellent pictures for a compact, rivaling SLR quality.  I've also been able to get 
decent slides as well, provided the lighting is not tricky or contrasty.

John

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Subject: Re: Further on compacts


> Jody wrote:
> 
> > The Olympus mju is probably a good size, but is it a good camera?
> 
> I sympathise with your problem. After much research I had whittled down my
> list of possible compacts to the Olympus mju 11 and the Yashica T5, going
> primarily on the basis of lens quality and weather-resistance.
> 
> Today I went down to my local camera shops and played with both of them. I
> came away with the T5. It felt better in my hands, for whatever that is
> worth, and it has a better viewfinder than the mju. The mju's viewfinder
> bends straight lines at the edge of the frame rather alarmingly, a problem
> not to be found with the T5's finder.


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Re: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It Worth It !)

2001-02-25 Thread John Glover

Hear hear! When I used to subscribe to the EOS list (over three years ago), people 
would get pissed off if you spelled out Nikon, Pentax, or any other camera 
branddammit, this is the Canon EOS list!! Isn't that a friendly list? LOL

Personally, I think using the asterisks is a bit silly.everyone knows we all use 
different gear on this list, but most of us are primarily Pentax users. You use what 
you need to get the job down and if Canon or Nikon supplies something that one needs 
to do the job, then they will use it..there is no reason to not spell out what you 
are talking about.  I think everyone on the list is secure enough to be able to handle 
seeing the word Canon, Nikon or Minolta spelled out.

John
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> Can we stop with the practice of not spelling out the names of the
> competitors?  Sure we like our Pentaxes from the early Asahi Pentax all the
> way up to the soon to be seen by all MZ-S.  The competitors are not C***n,
> N***n, or M*a.  Never heard of those cameras.  I have heard about brands
> named Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Olympus, Contax, Leica among others.
> Long live Px.
> 
> Jim A.
> 
> > From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:57:30 -0800
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It Worth It !)
> > 
> > I'm writing this from the perspective of someone who owns an LX, a ZX-5, and
> > a bunch of FA* glass.  The high-end Pentax lenses are definitely good.  If
> > you look at B&H New York prices, most Pentax lenses are comparable in price
> > to C***n, N***n, and M*a lenses (there are a couple of exceptions,
> > including the overpriced FA* 80-200 F2.8).  Pentax low-end bodies are, I
> > think, pretty comparable to C***n, N***n, and M*a bodies in features and
> > price.
> > 
> > When they are released, Pentax high-end bodies are comparable to those of
> > the others, too.  The LX rocked when it came out.  Other contributors to the
> > PDML have said that the PZ-1p is comparable to the N***n N90s and is a
> > better deal (except for a couple of poor build-quality issues).
> > 
> > The problem that I see is that the Pentax high-end body planning and release
> > cycle is not well-run at all!  How many of us would have been ecstatic to be
> > able to buy a camera derived from the PZ-1p, but with updated auto focus, a
> > real battery grip, and a vertical shutter release?   As another example, the
> > ZX-5n/MZ-3 used to compare well in spec to equivalent C***n and N***n
> > products, but they are aging and noone is talking about replacements.
> > 
> > Is it worth it to build a Pentax system?  From an objective perspective, you
> > can probably get better bodies and more good glass for less $$$ if you go
> > with N***n or something.
> > 
> > I built a Pentax collection partly because I started out with a P-3n and a
> > couple of lenses back in the 1980's, and partly because I like to be a
> > little different.  I'll probably buy an MZ-S when they become available.
> > For me, it is worth it to build a Pentax system.  My gear makes me happy.  I
> > like taking pictures with it.  It is cool to be able to put a 30 year-old
> > screw-mount lens on a brand-new body and be able to take a picture.
> > 
> > --Mark
> > 
> > http://www.westerickson.net/mark/mark.html
> > 
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Re: Pentax filters

2001-02-25 Thread John Glover

B&H Photo in New York sells Pentax SMC filters now, through their web page. They did 
not used to have them listed on the web, but only in recent weeks have I seen them 
available.  Pentax has two lines of filters, standard single coated filters, usually 
sold in blister packs with a lens hood, and the SMC line.  Not every Pentax filter you 
get will be SMC.  And yes, the size range is limited to that listed below.

John

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Subject: Re: Pentax filters


> Yes, there are SMC Pentax filters.  They are not available in
> all sizes - 49mm, 52mm, 58mm, 67mm, and 77mm only, if I
> recall,   IAC, just sizes for Pentax lenses.  They are
> available  in UV, Sky, and a few B&W contrast colors, plus pol.
> 
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Re: MZ-S Is It Worth It !

2001-02-25 Thread John Glover

There's an interesting comparison in the Feb 2001 issues of Practical Photography, 
where they review entry level SLRs.  They compare the Canon EOS 3000, Minolta Dynax 
404Si and the Pentax MZ-30 cameras.  Out of the three reviewed, all get 7 out of 10 
except the MZ-30, which scores an 8 out of 10.  However, when it comes time to make 
the recommendation on which camera is the best overall, they give the Minolta the 
edge, based on the number of features it has.  Now, a camera at this level, the user, 
at least in my opinion, is probably not going to use anything but programmed 
AE.they will probably never shoot in Av or any other mode.  However, they do say 
that for the price, ease of use, performance and build quality, the Pentax more than 
makes up for the lack of features and is the ideal beginner's camera.

Odd how they could select the Minolta as the winner..it does make you wonder 
about the reviews.

John

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Subject: Re: MZ-S Is It Worth It !


> > Look at the new Canon 30 or 33, fantastic reviews in which they could
> > hardly fault the camera.  
> 
> Where are you seeing these reviews? Most camera mags *never* give bad
> reviews.


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Re: My bargain of the day (and it wasn't on eBay!)

2001-02-24 Thread John Glover

I've had a couple of Pentax filters I purchased from KEH end up being the SMC filters, 
though most are generally the standard coated ones.  I've also gotten one B&W MC 
filter that was advertised as a single coated filter, a 58mm 81B.  KEH has had some 
decent prices on B&W filters recently I've noticed. Generally about $12 for EX to EX+ 
condition for the KR 1.5's.  I was also able to snag a Heliopan 77mm KR 1.5 for $19.

The copy stand is an excellent deal. I like the idea of the BIN feature, but now it 
has increased my eBay browsing time to add a check of the newly listed items!


John
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Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: My bargain of the day (and it wasn't on eBay!)


> John Glover wrote:
> > 
> > I had something similar ...
> > I ordered, along with a couple 
> > other items and it turned out to 
> > be a 77mm SMC Skylight.quite 
> > the bargain for $17.00!
> 
> That is a good deal!  I paid about twice that, maybe a bit more,
> for a new one  from a shop up in Canada, eh.
> 
> I recently got a pretty good deal, too.   Snagged a Pentax
> Copystand II on eBay using BIN for $150.00.  The stand's in LN
> condition with  all the  accessories. The B&H price is about
> $1250.00. 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> There are no rules for good photographs, 
> there are only good photographs.
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Re: My bargain of the day (and it wasn't on eBay!)

2001-02-24 Thread John Glover

I had something similar, though it was through KEH.  I was shopping for a 77mm filter 
for my 19-35 Tokina, and happened to see a 77mm Pentax Skylight, listed in EX+ for 
$17, I believe. So, I ordered, along with a couple other items and it turned out to be 
a 77mm SMC Skylight.quite the bargain for $17.00!

John

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Subject: My bargain of the day (and it wasn't on eBay!)


> I was at a local camera shop today, looking through the bargain
> bin of odds and ends they always have out. I've never found
> anything I wanted...well, not until today. There was a perfect
> Tiffen FL-B filter in 72mm size for $10.00. The big coincidence
> is that I was about to buy this filter because *tomorrow* I'm
> shooting some photos in store that's buying some advertising on
> my web page!
> 72mm is exactly the size I wanted, too, because it's the largest
> size of any of my lenses and, when used with a filter step-up
> ring, it works nicely on my 20mm and 24mm lenses without
> vignetting.
> 
> And I didn't even have to snipe bid for it ;)
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Re: Camera Bag......

2001-02-23 Thread John Glover

Has anyone every heard of the J-803? I saw an eBay auction calling it the J series 
Domke satchel, yet it was no where to be found on either Domke's web page nor B&H.  
The lister *claimed* it was shown at PMA LAST year, but Domke had not got around to 
releasing any info about it

It sounds kinda fishy to mesame dimensions as the F-803.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215280721

John



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Subject: Re: Camera Bag..


> Has anyone used the Domke f-805?
> 
> http://www.saundersphoto.com/html/body_f805.htm
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Re: Camera Bag......

2001-02-23 Thread John Glover

I've also got the F-802 as well.Shel's right, with the padded inserts you can 
configure this bag to carry quite a lot. Another useful bag in the Tamrac back pack, I 
believe it is the Expedition 3. You can 2 bodies and three or four lenses in this as 
well.

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> Check out a Domke source here:
> 
> http://www.fargo-ent.com/domke/domke7.htm
> 
> and here: http://www.saundersphoto.com/html/domkest.htm
> 
> I have the F-803 and the F-802
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Re: Camera Bag......

2001-02-23 Thread John Glover

Domke F-2 will easily carry a PZ-1p and a ZX-M, plus four to six lenses and an 
AF330FTZif you want to go a bit smaller, the F-6 bag will carry the two 
bodies and four lenses.

John

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Subject: Camera Bag..


> Can anyone recommend a good camera bag that would be large enough (and small
> enough) to carry, let's say, a PZ and a ZX body, along with 4 lenses? (I'm
> leaving myself some room for future expansion here...)
> Something less than $100??
> 
> All responses appreciated.
> Dosk
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Re: Fair price on SMC-A 50/1.4?

2001-02-23 Thread John Glover

I'd agree here..keep the lens and sell them on eBay if you feel the need to let 
them go. I think the 50/1.7 would bring a better price.  I traded an SMC-M 50/1.4 for 
an SMC-A 50/1.4 and they gave me about $30 I think in trade.though I did not 
complain as they had mispriced the A series lens for only $65. In retrospect though I 
probably should have kept the M series as well.
John

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Subject: Re: Fair price on SMC-A 50/1.4?


> Hi Bill,
>  $109 is a good price, I paid more than that on ebay for mine. I would keep
> the other lenses, a camera shop is not going to give you diddly for them.
> Sell
> them on ebay if you have to.


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Re: Lens offer; Anyone bought from this guy?

2001-02-21 Thread John Glover

Same with me...I believe I bought a copy of manuals from him, photocopy type for 
an ME Super and an AF200T...no problems with the transaction, but again, these were 
minor cost items.

John

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> Stan Tamulevich definitely rings a bell.. I know I bought something from
> him, but it was ages ago and cant remember what? at any rate, its *not*
> a red button, the name rings positive to me...
> 
> Daphne
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Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 28-80/3.5-4.5

2001-02-21 Thread John Glover



I picked up my 70-210 used off KEH. My 28-70 was purchased new 
but it did not come with a hood.  However, I believe the Pentax brand hoods 
for both these lenses are just expensive versions of the cheap rubber 
hoodscheck Boz's site. He has info on all the hoods for every lens, along 
with the coding to tell you what type of hood each one is. But, if I remember 
correctly, if there is an RH in Pentax's hood codes, that mean rubber 
hood.
 
I do not believe the slower and less costly lenses 
typical come with hoods, at least not from Pentax.  Generally, hoods with a 
lens seem reserved for the f/2.8 lenses, long teles (built in usually) and 
perhaps some of the more upper end lenses (i.e. Limited).

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Paul Jones 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:26 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 
  28-80/3.5-4.5
  
  John,
   
  Did your F28-80 or F70-210 come with a lense hood? I 
  have never had an original one for my F70-210 and have just been using one of 
  those colapsable rubber hoods. Wouldnt mind getting and original one if they 
  came with one.
   
  Thanks
  
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From: 
John 
Glover 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:52 
PM
Subject: Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 
28-80/3.5-4.5

Yes, it will make a nice companion to your F70-210, 
another terrific lens.  I've got the FA28-70/4 as I said earlier but 
also have the F35-70 as the companion to my F70-210. Those two zooms plus an 
F 50/1.7 make up my kit for my SF-10.  I had thought about the F28-80 
as another option but decided to stick with the 35-70 as the flash coverage 
on my SF-10 is only good to 35mm.  I suppose I wanted to keep my F 
series lenses and SF body in historical perspective, plus I've already got 
28mm covered!
 
John
 
PS -- If you're interested, KEH has several 28-70/4AL's on 
their website right now

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Paul 
  Jones 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 
  11:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 
  28-80/3.5-4.5
  
  Great, thanks for the info. I think i'll pick the one up 
  that i have my eye on :) on www.photodo.com it gets the same rating as 
  the FA Zoom 28-70/4 AL. Not bad, but i'd still prefer the 28-70/4 
  AL
   
  IT should make a good companion for my F 
  70-210/4-5.6.


Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)!

2001-02-20 Thread John Glover

I prefer electronic DOF preview myself. My PZ-1p has mechanical and if you are 
shooting in Av or program mode, you have to manually move the aperture ring off the A 
setting to get the mechanical DOF preview to function. With electronic DOF, just touch 
a button and the lens stops down regardless of where the aperture ring is set.

John

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From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)!


> How good is a electronic DOF preview is comparison to the standard
> mechanical type like on the Super Program and LX?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: MZ-S hands on!
> 
> 
> > Tom Rittenhouse writes:
> >
> > > Digital displays, but all the usual
> > > functions can be controlled by simple knobs and one shot
> > > buttons, no hold button A, swear at button B while pressing
> > > button B three times, thank god.  There are 19 custom functions
> > > that you probably need the manual for, but any normal picture
> > > taking should be quite intuitive.
> >
> >  I can't wait to handle the camera for myself to get a feel for the
> controls.  I
> > really like the interface of the Z-1p although the left-hand dial is a
> little
> > cumbersome.  I especially noticed that while trying to set flash
> > compensation with a 400/5.6 lens hanging off the front, a procedure that
> > almost requires three hands.
> >
> > > I forgot to check for mirror lock up (something I seldom use),
> >
> >  I've seen the 2-second prefire mentioned, I would prefer a real MLU but
> I'd
> > want it to be done mechanically so the batteries don't get drained while
> > waiting for the wind to settle.  I am really pleased about the electronic
> DOF
> > preview though.
> >
> > > The mode selection is almost transparent.  Touch a green button
> > > convenient to your index finger and it goes into program mode.
> >
> >  Like the "IF" button on the Z-1p but in a more convenient place?  I still
> need
> > to actually start remembering which button is which without having to look
> at
> > them :)
> >
> > > Set the f-stop on the lens it automatically goes into aperture
> > > priority.  Set the shutter speed manually it goes into shutter
> > > priority.  Set both and it goes into manual. Touch the green
> > > button again and it's back into program mode.
> >
> >  Can you simultaneously set both the aperture and shutter speed from the
> > body?  My impression from the body photos is that there is only one wheel
> > available for controlling exposure, unlike the Z-1p which has two.
> >
> > > Exposure comp is 1/2 stops, slide shooters will not be happy
> > > with that.
> >
> >  I shoot slides and have my camera set to 1/2-stops (even though I have
> the
> > option of 1/3).  I'm not critical enough to care about the 1/6 stop
> difference
> > between the 1/3 - 1/2 and 1/2 - 2/3 points.
> >
> > > I would have to
> > > shoot some film to find out how well the rather strange
> > > autofocus point layout works.  The camera automatically selects
> > > the point, but you can override it if you think it is wrong.
> >
> >  That's something else I'd like to play with.  I must hassle the importers
> to
> > get one into the country, even though the money for it is budgeted for a
> > certain 4x5 that speaks to me from the secondhand shelf every time I'm in
> > the shop :)
> >
> > > The 24-90 zoom is variable f-stop, I don't like that.
> >
> >  It's a zoom; I don't like that ;)  Honestly though, 24-90 is a very very
> nice
> > range.  Darnit, now I've realised that I don't have anything between 50
> and
> > 100mm.  Maybe I will have to start saving for the 77mm as well as the 43mm
> > (must resist zooms...).
> >
> > > He says it replaces the 28-70/f4, sad.  I
> > > would call it an upgrade to the 28-80 myself.
> >
> >  I would hope it's an upgrade to the 28-80.  I did not like the feel of
> that lens.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > - Dave
> >
> > David A. Mann, B.E.
> > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
> >
> > "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up,
> >  while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield
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Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 28-80/3.5-4.5

2001-02-20 Thread John Glover



Yes, it will make a nice companion to your F70-210, another 
terrific lens.  I've got the FA28-70/4 as I said earlier but also have the 
F35-70 as the companion to my F70-210. Those two zooms plus an F 50/1.7 make up 
my kit for my SF-10.  I had thought about the F28-80 as another option but 
decided to stick with the 35-70 as the flash coverage on my SF-10 is only good 
to 35mm.  I suppose I wanted to keep my F series lenses and SF body in 
historical perspective, plus I've already got 28mm covered!
 
John
 
PS -- If you're interested, KEH has several 28-70/4AL's on 
their website right now

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Paul Jones 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 
  28-80/3.5-4.5
  
  Great, thanks for the info. I think i'll pick the one up 
  that i have my eye on :) on www.photodo.com it gets the same rating as the 
  FA Zoom 28-70/4 AL. Not bad, but i'd still prefer the 28-70/4 AL
   
  IT should make a good companion for my F 
  70-210/4-5.6.


Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 28-80/3.5-4.5

2001-02-20 Thread John Glover



From what I understand, the SMC-F 28-80 is supposed to be a 
pretty decent performer. If you check Photodo.com, it get relatively high marks. 
The Takumar-F version is a lesser lens, with not quite as good a contrast or 
sharpness.
 
Yes, the Takumar version is the non-SMC.  The power zoom 
is the SMC-FA 28-80/3.5-4.7. It has a tiny bit smaller maximum aperture at 
80mm.  A lot of people knock this lens, basically due to its build quality, 
but the one I owned had excellent optics, it was just too heavy for my tastes. 
Plus, I never really used the power zoom feature at all, and when the 28-70/4 
went down in price, I got one of those instead.
 
I believe there is also a newer FA-28-80, available in both a 
silver and a black version, but I've not heard much favorable about the lens, 
just a few postings indicating it was a fairly standard performing 
lens.
 
John
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Paul Jones 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:08 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Info on Pentax SMC-F 
  28-80/3.5-4.5
  
  
   
  Hi,
   
  thanks for both the replys i got.
   
  Would the non SMC  be a takumar and would the power 
  zoom one be an FA as apposed to the F? 
  Just curious
  
 


Re: Date backs

2001-02-20 Thread John Glover

Or for safety inspection, environmental compliance audits, etc..shows your not 
only who and what, but also when...

John

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Subject: RE: Date backs


> If you've ever worked as a private detective, it's also great
> for evidence shots where you want to show when people were at
> specific places.  Divorce cases come to mind.
> 
> Len
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> > martin tammer
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:15 PM
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> > Subject: Date backs
> >
> >
> > Any real benefit to having a date back - particularly
> > one for a ZX-10, and is it worth the extra bucks?
> > Thnx - Martin
> >
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Re: NINE dang Texans?

2001-02-19 Thread John Glover

Yeah Mike, but you know them Texanswith those egos, they probably counted each 
other twice!  I wonder who that half-Texan is.

John

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> So, basically, we have more Texans around here than anything else.
> 
> I'm gonna have to rethink this.
> 
> 
> 
> --Mike
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Re: Ergonomics

2001-02-19 Thread John Glover

Did you try the ZX-M with the battery grip? Without it, it is a pretty smallish thing 
but the grip makes the camera MUCH more manageable.

John

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Subject: RE: Ergonomics



> down (but lacked the funds to walk out with it).  I held something
> recent-ish, I think it was a ZX-M, once in a store and found there
> wasn't enough of it to hold onto comfortably.  Ick.  And I'd been
> so prepared to love it, too, from what I'd read about it.  (Note


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Re: Geography

2001-02-17 Thread John Glover

North Island or South Island? I know where the North Island is but haven't a clue as 
to where that South Island might be.:)

John


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> How many of you know where New Zealand is? And no, it
> is not part of Australia (if you know where that is).
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Re: Z-1p: batteries

2001-02-15 Thread John Glover

Where did you find this price? I just went to www.costco.com and did a search for 
batteries. The only 2CR5's I could find were Energizer e2's, at $7.29 a piece..

Could you post the link to this price? Thanks!

John

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> Hey, the 2CR5 battaries are real cheap: costco.com sells them for something
> like US12.99 per 6 of them. That is 2.17 a battery. I don't see much
> potential economy in using AAs. I had some funny problems with ordering from
> Costco, though: first time they sent me CR5 battaries instead, second time I
> got one box of 2CR5 and one box of forgot what other battaries, but they
> were twice more expensive than 2CR5. Had to drive to the local Costco to
> return them.
> 
> Vadim Meleshuk.
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Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?

2001-02-14 Thread John Glover

If you're speaking about the PZ-1p, the two large camera stores here in the Chicago 
area stock the body, and most of the other smaller stores, if they have a 
knowledgeable staff, can get one.  I've found it's the chain type camera stores (i.e. 
Ritz, Wolf, etc.) whose sales staff is basically ignorant about nay Pentax product 
except the ZX-30/50.  As far as marketing goes, I really do not remember much at all 
about the PZ-1p when it was first introduced as I was still shooting manual focus back 
then and did not keep up much on the AF stuff.  However, in recent years, I do not 
think I've ever seen an actual Pentax ad for the PZ-1p. Almost all Pentax's marketing 
is geared towards the ZX series of cameras and their P&S's.

John

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From: "herbet brasileiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-S better than Z-1p?


> --- Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But then what caused the Z-1p sells a lot cheaper in
> > the first place? Just 
> > curious.
> 
> BAD marketing strategy perhaps. I'd never heard of it
> before joining the list. Wasn't until a few months ago
> that it was finally listed on the Pentax Canada
> website. Most of the stores do not carry or even heard
> about the camera. 
> How extensivelly it was advertised throughout Europe
> and the US?


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