Re: PESO: Maui Quail

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 14 February 2016 at 17:11 "Daniel J. Matyola" <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 5:36 AM, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It was Hollywood's most productive era since WWII.
> 
> It may have been.  My comment was based on my opinion that "Babette's
> Feast" was one of the most overrated movies I have seen, topped
> perhaps only by "The English Patient" and a few others.

I'm very much afraid that I was being sarcastic.  

I'll get my coat.

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Re: PESO: Maui Quail

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 13 February 2016 at 22:40 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> > one of the greatest films of the 1980s.
> 
> I didn't realize that the 80s were so barren as far as films were concerned.

It was Hollywood's most productive era since WWII.
(Bump - tish!)

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Re: Photo Processing On An Older Laptop

[WILSON MICHAEL]

I didn't know Rawtherapee existed until yesterday.  Just installed on UBUNTU
12.something and it works fine.  It's a 7-8 year old Samsung laptop - quite high
spec for the time, with a multicore processor, 8Gb of memory and 500Gb HDD - and
the only thing that might slow it down will be the onboard graphics.  If I pixel
peep, it takes about 5 seconds for the image to re-render (demosaic)  when I
move it.

> On 13 February 2016 at 23:48 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was using it on windows, Win2K IIRC. I expect that it's improved 
> immensely in the last few years, and it has been a quite a few years 
> since I used it.  I never used it on Linux.  I had a headless file 
> server, running Linux, and Samba, (for file storage), but hadn't 
> installed a GUI so I have no idea how well behaved the Linux version 
> is.  That server has been replace with a single external USB drive with 
> roughly four times the storage by the way.  I do have the hardware 
> somewhere, it probably still runs, but just isn't worth resurrecting.
> 
> On 2/13/2016 3:19 PM, Mark C wrote:
> > Thanks, PJ - where using Raw Therapee on WIndows or Linux? I would 
> > probably only use it if I decide to abandon Vista and convert the PC 
> > to a Linux variant.
> >
> > On 2/13/2016 2:05 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
> >> I tried RawTherapee, back when Adobe killed RSE, it wasn't bad, but 
> >> there was a serious bug when opening K20D files, even to simply 
> >> display the thumbnail view. The program would at best simply go away, 
> >> a crash that left no vestiges of the software in memory.  At worst it 
> >> would lock resources requiring extreme measures to even get a PC to 
> >> reboot. It was also quite slow on the machine I was using at the time 
> >> when processing *istD[s] files.  After a few months of waiting for a 
> >> fix I uninstalled it and moved on.
> >>
> >> On 2/13/2016 1:44 PM, Mark C wrote:
> >>> My scanning PC is setup as a dual boot into either Lubuntu or Win 
> >>> XP. I need XP to run NikonScan but have played around in Lubuntu a 
> >>> bit. I test drove Gimp and Darktable but they really did not catch 
> >>> my fancy. That was a couple of years ago so maybe they have 
> >>> improved, and i never tried RawTherapee or Shotwell.
> >>>
> >>> After a clean install of Vista (not from the disk image files) I 
> >>> found that I still could not install the utilities I had tried 
> >>> earlier. I grabbed older versions of each and to my surprise found 
> >>> that they installed fine. Maybe something in the installer changed 
> >>> over time and made it incompatible with Vista. Or maybe there were 
> >>> still Vista updates pending that would fix the issue.  At least the 
> >>> clean install is free of all the crap that came bundled with the 
> >>> laptop.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> On 2/13/2016 12:43 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>  No doubt you can blow new life to your laptop with a light-weight 
>  linux distro such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
>   But you will have to  get used to the photo software (GIMP, 
>  RawTherapee, Darktable, Shotwell).
>  I have installed these all but my preference is still also LR with 
>  Elements.
> 
>  Henk
> 
>  Op 2016-02-13 om 18:03 schreef Mark C:
> > Thanks, I may give that a try.
> >
> > Unfortunately, Vista glitches wasted no time in arriving and I'm 
> > suddenly blocked form installing many pieces of software. Clicking 
> > on some .exe installers results in absolutely nothing happening, 
> > while some do install and any installed .exe works fine. I think 
> > it may be due to the anti-virus software blocking something or 
> > having corrupted a registry setting. So, I am again re-installing 
> > Vista and if it fails this time I think it is time to move on to a 
> > new device
> >
> > There are linux distros that claim to support this laptop, but I 
> > have not been successful in finding Linux software that I like for 
> > photo processing.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 2/12/2016 3:26 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >> Depending on how much processing you want to do on the road, 
> >> Faststone
> >> Image Viewer is a low cost (as in no cost) option.
> >>
> >> If you set up the settings correctly, it will read raw files (rather
> >> than just the embedded previews) and it has a limited range of 
> >> editing
> >> options (Levels, curves, colour correction etc).  It's useful if you
> >> just want to develop a few jpgs while travelling.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> ++
> >> Brian Walters
> >> Western Sydney Australia
> >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016, at 01:56 PM, Mark C wrote:
> >>> A couple days ago I dropped my 9 year old laptop and the hard 
> >>> drive was
> >>> trashed. 

Re: PRSO: Bikini Blonde

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 10 February 2016 at 07:12 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> The other day, I went downtown and picked up a little Bikini Blonde to
> enliven my evenings here in paradise:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18185918
> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
> Comments are invited and appreciated.

I prefer to get in cider.

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Re: Breaking up isn't always hard to do

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Ours lies in the river where it was built, just too late for its intended
purpose in WWI.
http://thehelpfulengineer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/SS-Cretehauser.jpg

> On 07 February 2016 at 06:52 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is a list of the remaining concrete ships in the US here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_ship
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > That cement ship in a lot of my photos is a victim of our recent rough surf:
> > http://abc7news.com/weather/stormy-surf-breaks-up-ss-palo-alto-cement-ship-in-aptos/1188122/
> >
> > Some of my photos over the years (at least the ones I've tagged)
> > https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=99496143%40N00=date-taken-desc=cement_all=1
> >
> > When I was a kid, the end next to the pier was still open and we could go
> > out on it.  Lately, it's been a handy "front drop" when we've had a nice
> > sunset, and I've been in the South County and needed something interesting
> > to put in front of the sunset. January 2015, I was driving home from a job
> > in Watsonville, saw the nice sunset and stopped just to take advantage of
> > the colors and got one of my favorite photos of the year.
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/16055516218/
> >
> > On the bright side, even broken up it'll still be photogenic, and a good
> > place for cormorants to hang out.
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: February PUG - 'Black and White' - is UP

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 08 February 2016 at 04:30 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016, at 01:10 PM, Mark C wrote:
> > What's a Ricohflex TLR?
> 
> 
> I'm sure PJ knows what a Ricohflex TLR is.
> 
> "Ricofhlex" on the other hand

is the Outer Mongolian knockoff, manufactured exclusively from Coca-Cola
packaging.  In yurts.  By nomads. Presented at the Ulaan Bator Imaging
Convention every year since 1963, it has failed to sell a single example despite
the catchy tagline of "So light (and sticky) youll never be able to put it
down."

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Re: Lens Thoughts (DA 17-70 f4)

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 04 February 2016 at 15:31 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/3/2016 3:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
> >> Thanks PDML for all the responses.  You've managed to muddy my waters
> >> even more than they already were.
> >
> > Wait till you ask cats questions.
> >
> > Dave
> 
> I thought we agreed to redirect all cat questions to T.O.P.?

Ah, yes.  The curiosity subclaws of our trolling protocol.

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Re: OT: Assimilated by the BORG

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 02 February 2016 at 04:56 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> It doesn't give you a lot if you're using a computer with a full display 
> either.  You have to know the story, because if you don't that web site 
> won't tell it to you. There is literally real no content, you need to 
> use Google to discover what it's all about.

Classic Yorkshire.  "See all, hear all; say nowt."

> 
> On 2/1/2016 6:06 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> > The desktop site is the url before '/blog'; there's a redirect to the
> > problematic page.
> >
> > The problem with it is that it gives you nothing if you're on a mobile
> > device. I'd quite like to read the stuff on the site - that's why I followed
> > the link in the first place.
> >
> > I accept that small organisations without professional IT may not be able to
> > do responsive design (although these days it should be the default even on
> > cheap/free CMSes), but they haven't even given me the choice of a
> > sub-optimal experience, just a flat out "no, we won't let you see our site
> > at all", and I can't be arsed to go upstairs, switch on the desktop machine
> > and go hunting for their desktop site.
> >
> > B
> >
> >> On 1 Feb 2016, at 22:47, John Coyle  wrote:
> >>
> >> The link given is the problem - take out the "mobile-users" text and you
> >> get to the desktop version!
> >>
> >>
> >> John in Brisbane
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 08:29
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Assimilated by the BORG
> >>
> >> Talk about stupid web design, it thinks my desktop is a mobile device...
> >>
> >>> On 2/1/2016 5:05 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> >>> Here's one for people who really appreciate stupid web design:
> >>>
> >>> http://bradfordodeonrescuegroup.co.uk/blog/mobile-users/

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Re: OT: NYC View

[WILSON MICHAEL]

I think I'm safe at this dostance:  it's the glow every time Donald Trump lowers
his trousers - and that _is_ the sun.

> On 31 January 2016 at 23:10 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I could tell you but then I'd be required to kill myself.
> 
> On 1/31/2016 4:20 PM, John wrote:
> > On 1/31/2016 3:33 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
> >> That's not the Sun, it's the glow from the "event" no one is allowed to
> >> talk about.
> >>
> >
> > I know I'm going to regret asking, but you just lost me there. What 
> > "event"?
> >
> >
> >> On 1/31/2016 1:06 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> >>> Call me sad, but I've just been on Google maps and then Google
> >>> streetview. If you put yourself on Washington Street between Water St
> >>> and Front St you can see that view, albeit without the somewhat
> >>> mysterious phenomenon of the sun apparently rising or setting in the
> >>> north. But it's in a district called Dumbo, so what do I know?
> >>>
> >>> B
> >>>
>  On 31 Jan 2016, at 17:34, Daniel J. Matyola 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Ann, is this view even possible?
>  http://themetapicture.com/photogenic-nyc-view/
> 
>  or just another photoshop?
> 
>  Dan Matyola
>  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Shooting with a D810.

[WILSON MICHAEL]

It's better than that - it's epididymous!

> On 26 January 2016 at 23:20 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Very good!
> 
> All those years at medical school not a complete waste of time then!
> 
> > On 26 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Rick Womer <rickpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It doesn't make a vas deferens.
> > 
> > (That's a biology pun)
> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> > 
> > 
> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:57 PM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:23 PM, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On 26 January 2016 at 11:53 David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> . i have run the gamete...
> >>> 
> >>> I'm feeling nauseous - and I'm a biologist.
> >> 
> >> My work is done

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Re: Shooting with a D810.

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 26 January 2016 at 11:53 David J Brooks  wrote:

> . i have run the gamete...

I'm feeling nauseous - and I'm a biologist.

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Re: My latest Pentax enablement...

[WILSON MICHAEL]

As long as your aperture's still snappy, you have nothing to worry about.

> On 25 January 2016 at 21:34 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Same year as me. My knurls are more worn than those.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 21:23, Darren Addy  wrote:
> > 
> > ...is at least as old as I am (but in a lot better shape):
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/24611705305/
> > 
> > Arrived today and will take its place among its preset brethren. I've
> > wanted this style of Pentax lens cap for a long, long time.

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Re: OT - little video

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 25 January 2016 at 20:47 Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Defender 110 isn't offered in the states, so it not part of the quality 
> issue here.

It isn't offered anywhere, after this week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35285258

> 
> The Land Rovers offered here, for the most part are for posers, like most of 
> the other SUV customers, hardly made for the true off roaders and seldom if 
> ever off road.
> 
> > I drive with a smile - always!
> 
> Good on you Cotty !

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Re: My latest Pentax enablement...

[WILSON MICHAEL]

Coatings blemish-free?  Helicoid smooth?  No fungus?  Get yourself on Ebay.

> On 25 January 2016 at 21:53 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Goes all the way to 11
> 
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 21:47, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > 
> > As long as your aperture's still snappy, you have nothing to worry about.
> > 
> >> On 25 January 2016 at 21:34 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Same year as me. My knurls are more worn than those.
> >> 
> >> B
> >> 
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 21:23, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> ...is at least as old as I am (but in a lot better shape):
> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/24611705305/
> >>> 
> >>> Arrived today and will take its place among its preset brethren. I've
> >>> wanted this style of Pentax lens cap for a long, long time.

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Re: OT - little video

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> On 25 January 2016 at 05:18 Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Yer a regular feckin comedian Daz ;-)
> 
> Yeah but the newer Land Rovers sold in the U S of A have some of the lowest 
> rated quality of all vehicle sold here.

Land Rover is just a name, now, owned by venture capitalists.  They are
presently funding an Indian manufacturer.  Previously, it was Americans.

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Re: OT - little video

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> On 24 January 2016 at 19:29 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:42, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > Thought one or two here might find this amusing. 2 min video explainer
> > aimed at broadcast journalists re bonding LiveU and KA satellite
> > broadband for news live shots.
> > 
> > Spoiler - selfie cameo!
> > 
> > 
> 
> Awesome - I'll take two!
> 
> Crap actors though.

Just a different era.  Cotty's on a casting for the lead as villian in the next
Mack Sennet video.

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Re: tamron 28-75, foggy on the inside

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Plus; use a plastic bag as the container and twist the zoom every hour or so to
pull/push as much air through it as possible.  You may still end up with
watermarks, though.

> On 23 January 2016 at 12:28 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
> Put it in a closed plastic container with as much silica gel bags you
> can find. Remove the K mount lens cap.
> Toine
> 
> On 23 January 2016 at 10:25, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > This afternoon I wanted to take some pictures of the river in my backyard.
> > It was raining, but not super hard, so rather than changing lenses, I just
> > used the 28-75 on the K-3.
> >
> > This evening I was photographing belt tests at the dojo, and it was getting
> > tough to see through the camera.  I had condensation on one of the elements
> > on the inside of the lens.  I could put the lens in front of my heater, but
> > I'm worried about it getting too hot and causing damage.
> >
> > Does anyone have any constructive solutions for solving this problem?
> >
> > I took some photos of the lens tonight:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157663676462012
> >
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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

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> On 19 January 2016 at 21:18 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/19/2016 3:37 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> > On 19 Jan 2016, at 17:18, John  wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Tres chic.  Or summat.
> 
>  Has it got Anna Karina in it? Or maybe Jean Seberg, or BB, or Mireille
>  Darc?
>  No? Can't be cool then.
> >>>
> >>> It's the personal conveyance of Serge Forward; raconteur, consumer of
> >>> legendary
> >>> quantities of Gauloise and known worldwide as "The man with the pointy
> >>> head".
> >>
> >> Never heard of him.
> >>
> >
> > Here he is, le beau Serge. One of his finest moments:
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_uxAofXJCh8
> >
> > B
> 
> Him I've heard of, but I didn't know he was "The man with the pointy
> head".
> 
> His Wikipedia entry doesn't mention him having a pointy head.

It was a national secret.  You know how touchy the French are about appearances.
 And feely about everything else.

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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

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> On 18 January 2016 at 21:15 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 18 Jan 2016, at 21:06, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> >> On 18 January 2016 at 20:53 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Ah, Godfrey, in both cases you're only one digit away from being the
> >> coolest
> >> facker in cool-fackerdom.
> >> 
> >> My first car was a rusted old Fiat 127 Mirafiori, which went like shit off
> >> a
> >> stick until the engine blew up. I bought it for £100- and sold it, in
> >> pieces,
> >> for £200-.
> >> 
> >> I had a Peugeot for a while too, but not the cool car of la nouvelle vague,
> >> which was the 404. You coulda been Belmondo...
> >> 
> >> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjGiZa9VTPE
> > 
> > The 404 is not a cool French car.  This is a cool French car.
> > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WekoUHKJIaY/VZDk-axEYWI/Gwk/RHk4CWVi8g8/s1600/KARIN.jpg
> > 
> > Tres chic.  Or summat.
> > 
> 
> Has it got Anna Karina in it? Or maybe Jean Seberg, or BB, or Mireille Darc?
> No? Can't be cool then.

It's the personal conveyance of Serge Forward; raconteur, consumer of legendary
quantities of Gauloise and known worldwide as "The man with the pointy head".

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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

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> On 18 January 2016 at 20:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, Godfrey, in both cases you're only one digit away from being the coolest
> facker in cool-fackerdom.
> 
> My first car was a rusted old Fiat 127 Mirafiori, which went like shit off a
> stick until the engine blew up. I bought it for £100- and sold it, in pieces,
> for £200-.
> 
> I had a Peugeot for a while too, but not the cool car of la nouvelle vague,
> which was the 404. You coulda been Belmondo...
> 
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjGiZa9VTPE

The 404 is not a cool French car.  This is a cool French car.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WekoUHKJIaY/VZDk-axEYWI/Gwk/RHk4CWVi8g8/s1600/KARIN.jpg

Tres chic.  Or summat.

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Re: GESO: Rarotonga

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> On 17 January 2016 at 02:29 David Mann  wrote:
> 
> 
> The weather is crap today so I've forced myself to sit down and put my photos
> from Rarotonga online.  I've chosen 20 for a gallery and will drip-feed more
> as PESOs as I feel like it.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/gallery/60/#geso

The yellow/red, multiple flower plant is a Heliconia, probably H. rostrata.
 They are close relatives of the banana genus and are renowned for bats using
their leaves as tents when they go on holiday.  I thought everyone knew that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliconia#Habitat

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Re: PESO - The Look

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> On 16 January 2016 at 20:12 Bulent Celasun  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wilson, Ann, Ken, Mark,
> 
> Thank you all for enjoying the look, the tree and the rest :)

Only my close friends are allowed to call me Wilson.  You have the choice of
Hey, You!,  Pat Fig or Mike.
8 -)

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Re: PESO - The Look

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> On 16 January 2016 at 21:49 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16 Jan 2016, at 20:27, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> >> On 16 January 2016 at 20:12 Bulent Celasun <bulent.cela...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Wilson, Ann, Ken, Mark,
> >> 
> >> Thank you all for enjoying the look, the tree and the rest :)
> > 
> > Only my close friends are allowed to call me Wilson.  You have the choice of
> > Hey, You!,  Pat Fig or Mike.
> > 8 -)
> > 
> 
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHtgKIFoQfE


Tom has always been a big fan.  I've never had the heart to tell him that I
acted him off the screen in that one.


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Re: The Guardian - Saul Leiter

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 16 January 2016 at 19:41 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16 Jan 2016, at 17:59, steve harley  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2016-01-15 7:30 , Mark Roberts wrote:
> >> Some great photography here:
> >> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/jan/15/made-in-manhattan-how-saul-leiter-found-beauty-in-gothams-glass-and-grime
> > 
> > thanks, didn't know his color work, just the black and white mostly from a
> > marvelous book, _The New York School: Photographs, 1936-1963_
> > 
> > i think i relate to the black and white better, but there is some color
> > photography (including the photos in that article) where the tonality feels
> > mysteriously black-and-whiteish
> > 
> > here's some of his black & white:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> I like the New Yorker, but those are the most intrusive ads I've ever seen,
> one popping up every 2-3 photos, so they can fuck right off, and I can't
> finish looking at that gallery, however good it is.
>
https://adblockplus.org/

Of course, you then have to put up with all the whimpering and snivelling
because you've deprived them of revenue.  By "put up with" I mean, of course,
enjoy.

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Re: PDML in Clerkenwell (London)

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You're getting quite good at that "photography from behind your head" routine.
 I think I'm going to start calling you Jimi.

> On 14 January 2016 at 23:26 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Photos from the PDML meet-up.
> 
> At the Dovetail, drinking Belgian beer:
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e001501.jpg
> Chris Mitchell is in the center, buying the first round of drinks 
> because I accurately cited Fawlty Towers as the source of the quotation 
> he posted on Facebook :) His wife is just to the left.
> 
> Having dinner at the Modern Pantry Clerkenwell.
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e001510.jpg
> Bob W holding court between Chris and Karin Mitchell while Lisa looks on 
> with (justified) skepticism.
> 
> Both shots taken with the Pentax K-01 and the 10-17 fisheye zoom. That 
> lens was pretty much the only way to shoot in the cramped and jam-packed 
> environs of the Dovetail on a Friday night. And I just kept using that 
> lens for the rest of the evening because I couldn't be arsed to change it.
> 
> Lisa and I returned to the Dovetail on Monday and found it nearly 
> deserted. Big difference between a Friday and a Monday, hey? Beer was 
> just as good as when we were packed in with Bob W and company but this 
> time we also got to sample the food, which was also excellent. I expect 
> the Dovetail will become a regular stop for our visits to London.
> 
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Re: PESO - The Look

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> On 14 January 2016 at 20:04 Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Looks to possibly be a son of a 
> Birch?

A Balsa cusation if ever I heard one.

> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:58 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> > 
> > Why knot? Looks a bit bloodshot though.
> > 
> >> On 1/14/2016 12:53 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
> >> Pentax K3, Sigma 70 mm f/2.8 EX Macro.
> >> 
> >> https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/the-look/
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Comments appreciated.
> >> 
> >> Bulent
> >> 
> >> -
> >> http://patoloji.gen.tr
> >> http://celasun.wordpress.com/
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve
> > immortality through not dying.
> > -- Woody Allen
> > 
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Re: PESO 2016 - 010, 011, 012 - GDG

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> On 13 January 2016 at 19:54 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> I like the chocolate Statue of Liberty, but what's that bloke doing to it?
> 
> I like the shakers too - my favourite type.
> 
> And whenever you see someone thinking like that you must call it 'Tief in
> Gedanken versunken', because it's such a lovely rhythmic phrase.

You could use Gedenken, too.

> 
> B
> 
> > On 13 Jan 2016, at 16:00, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> > 
> > Out to lunch at a pizza parlor yesterday, things and people around me...
> > 
> > https://flic.kr/p/D51A23
> > https://flic.kr/p/C9PeRG
> > https://flic.kr/p/D51zu1
> > 
> > enjoy! 
> > 
> > G
> > 
> > The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
> > 
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Re: PESO - South Bank

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They're called BPIs.  Bob's Private Infernos.  They are for tourists who don't
follow published advice.
http://www.siliconglen.scot/jokes/tourists.html


> On 09 January 2016 at 22:39 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Paul.  As far as I could tell, they are just Art.
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> > Nice! But the underground illumination is puzzling. Are they vents for an
> > underground mall or parking garage?
> > 
> > Paul via phone
> > 
> >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> >> 
> >> There are many interesting things near the south bank of the Thames,
> >> including sidewalks/footpaths with what look like manhole covers lit from
> >> below:
> >> 
> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18145278
> >> 
> >> (K-5, DA 50-200)
> >> 
> >> Comments appreciated.
> >> 
> >> Rick
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: PESO - New Look

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> On 07 January 2016 at 07:11 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Very smart. I'll bet it's quite crowded at peak times. I see the England 
> cricket sponsor is well represented! Surely it wasn't as depressed as you 
> suggest as recently as 1980?

You would be surprised how dreary civic architecture was at the end of the last
century.  Take away the bright lights of the current situation and it's equally
depressing. Maybe more so, as at least the concrete massifs resisted demolition
somewhat.  This new stuff falls over in a good storm.

 Even worse, that could be a picture of virtually any British town centre -
there is nothing whatsoever to distinguish it from Liverpool, Cardiff or
Aberdeen.


> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Rick Womer
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:06 AM
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> Subject: PESO - New Look
> 
> Speaking of the UK...
> 
> This shopping complex in the Bloomsbury section of London was a grim, arid 
> Soviet-style desert when we lived nearby 35 years ago. It has changed.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18149688=lg
> 
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Rick

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Re: Warning to the UKians (and possibly other Europeons)

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> On 06 January 2016 at 01:20 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Try this, Larry:
> 
> "Good evening,
> 
> Mr Larry Colen humbly and obsequiously requests the honour* of meeting the
> most honorable Messrs Robert Walden and Stephen Cottrell. He hopes to place
> his unworthy colonial boots on the sacred soil of the Mother Country in the
> coming few months, and dares to hope that he is worthy of such an audience.
> 
> Groveling at their feet, God Save the Queen, pip-pip and all that,
> 
> Yours sincerely, etc."
> 
> *(note spelling: it's important)

Indeed.  A very good place to start with that is spelling peoples' names
correctly.
Very best wishes,
Wislon.

> 
> Those Brits are touchy sorts. You need to be careful.
> 
> Cheers and tally-ho,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> 
> > On 5/1/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> It looks like I might be taking a trip to the UK with Zab sometime in 
> >> the next few months.  If you would like the opportunity to see me in 
> >> person, drop me a note off-list with time/space coordinates of your 
> >> availability.
> > 
> > I don't think you've quite got that hang of visiting the Brits. What you
> > wrote up there? The other way round matey ;-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >  Cotty
> > 
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Re: OT Computer stuff

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Thanks.  Not without modification of the case and they are still more expensive
than the present solution, which I have seen working.  The narrower (1.8"?)
drives will fit easily but are twice the price of the larger drives.

> On 05 January 2016 at 22:38 "Carlos R." <crls.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Can't you use a 2.5' standard SSD? They are much cheaper now than they 
> used to be. Or a miniPCI express one? In case your present SSD uses such 
> interface.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> El 05/01/2016 a las 4:41, WILSON MICHAEL escribió:
> > I have an Acer Aspire One netbook with an 8Gig SSD.  Apart from being
> > terribly
> > slow, the SSD appears to have failed.  Looking around for a replacement, I
> > discovered the option of using a CF card with a CF/ZIF adaptor.  More space,
> > less money = happy camper.
> >
> > However after installation of a Sandisc 32Gig 266x and much rude
> > language
> > due to non-functionality, I discover that the CF card needs to be DMA/UDMA
> > enabled and that, usually, only "industrial" grade cards provide this.  Said
> > cards are, of course, only a whisker away, pricewise, from a new SSD.
> >
> > However Transcend advertises CF cards that are "UDMA mode 7".  Having
> > been
> > bitten by advertising descriptions in the past, I'd like to ask if anyone
> > knows
> > whether this description really allows the cards to be used as fixed discs?
> >   Or... is there any way of enabling (U)DMA on the Sandisc?
> >
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Re: PESO - New Year, New Hope

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> On 05 January 2016 at 03:20 knarf  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Mark! 
> 
> I like that blog name. I'm getting tired of the old name. Ethically Raised
> Strawberries.
> 
> I like it.

I don't know.  It doesn't quite sound right.

> >But I think you should change the name of your color photo blog from
> >"Knarf Does Kolor" to "Ethically Raised Rasberries". It just seems
> >like that ought to be a name of *someone's* blog and it might as well
> >be yours.

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OT Computer stuff

[WILSON MICHAEL]

I have an Acer Aspire One netbook with an 8Gig SSD.  Apart from being terribly
slow, the SSD appears to have failed.  Looking around for a replacement, I
discovered the option of using a CF card with a CF/ZIF adaptor.  More space,
less money = happy camper.

However after installation of a Sandisc 32Gig 266x and much rude language
due to non-functionality, I discover that the CF card needs to be DMA/UDMA
enabled and that, usually, only "industrial" grade cards provide this.  Said
cards are, of course, only a whisker away, pricewise, from a new SSD.

However Transcend advertises CF cards that are "UDMA mode 7".  Having been
bitten by advertising descriptions in the past, I'd like to ask if anyone knows
whether this description really allows the cards to be used as fixed discs?
 Or... is there any way of enabling (U)DMA on the Sandisc?

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RE: PESO: Cabinet of Mysteries

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It's a record card cabinet, for storing standard 6x3" record cards.  Often found
in libraries, using the Dewey classification to keep a record of the books.  It
has pull-out shelves in the middle, so you can take an entire drawer out and
riffle through the cards.

> On 02 January 2016 at 06:53 John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> 
> Years ago I nearly bought one of those - pharmacist's storage cabinet, I think
> - to store 35mm.
> slides in - the dimensions were just about right!
> Nice piece of furniture, too.
> 
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 1:24 AM
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> Subject: PESO: Cabinet of Mysteries
> 
> A very strange, ancient piece of furniture:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18151254
> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
> Comments are invited

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Re: How did you celebrate New Year's Eve?

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> On 02 January 2016 at 08:36 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2 Jan 2016, at 00:44, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > On 1/1/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> I understand that in Britain the celebrations of more restrained,
> >> cultured and refined
> > 
> > That scene could be anywhere.
> > 
> > This scene, however, is (as you might say) awesome:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I wasn't there but the video itself is pretty amazing. Hoping this can
> > be viewed overseas
> > 
> 
> They must have used a lot of matches.

Boris is best mates with Gandalf.  He thinks.

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Re: How did you celebrate New Year's Eve?

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Godt Nyttår til deg og din familie.

> On 01 January 2016 at 18:42 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
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> 
> Hi folks, 
> Thought i'd de-lurk to wish you Good Light for 2016. :-)

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Re: PESO: Happy birthday to her

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> On 01 January 2016 at 05:53 Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Ann. Roberts still missing after half a dozen posts since Marlene died
> . Maybe I'm being  oversensitive, but I find it odd and disturbing. Thinking
> about calling it quits.

I don't understand significant parts of the above but the end is slightly
disturbing.

Get a good night's sleep, then head up and onward into another day.  It's the
human way.  I'm sure there are planty of people here who would be happy to
converse with you about your troubles, either on or off list, if that will help
you find your way.

If I'm out of place over this, just think of me as yet another imperialist swine
trying to micromanage the world.

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Re: PESO: Happy birthday to her

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I find this place to be a good place to be when things are not going well.  It
reminds me that it's me that's out of kilter.  Sometimes it reminds me right
between the eyes but that's good, too.

> On 01 January 2016 at 10:49 Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> It was meant to be off list. I've had a rough time of it lately. I'm not
> contemplating suicide, just thinking the PDML may not be a good place for me
> now.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 3:55 AM, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> >> On 01 January 2016 at 05:53 Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks Ann. Roberts still missing after half a dozen posts since Marlene
> >> died
> >> . Maybe I'm being  oversensitive, but I find it odd and disturbing.
> >> Thinking
> >> about calling it quits.
> > 
> > I don't understand significant parts of the above but the end is slightly
> > disturbing.
> > 
> > Get a good night's sleep, then head up and onward into another day.  It's
> > the
> > human way.  I'm sure there are planty of people here who would be happy to
> > converse with you about your troubles, either on or off list, if that will
> > help
> > you find your way.
> > 
> > If I'm out of place over this, just think of me as yet another imperialist
> > swine
> > trying to micromanage the world.
> > 
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Re: How did you celebrate New Year's Eve?

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> On 01 January 2016 at 15:25 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1 Jan 2016, at 13:41, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> > 
> > Folks my age can't take much celebration.  We stayed home, had some
> > good food, watched parts of "It's a Wonderful Life," tuned in the
> > broadcast from Times Square for 15 minutes each side of midnight, and
> > polished off a bottle of champagne between the two of us.
> > 
> > It seems half the planet descended on Times Square.  What is amazing
> > is that it is an entirely alcohol-free zone.
> > 
> > I understand that in Britain the celebrations of more restrained,
> > cultured and refined:
> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/12077199/A-heavy-night-New-Years-Eve-revellers-in-pictures.html
> > 
> 
> I celebrated in the traditional manner shown in the article.

Dropped your handbag, puked in a fountain or fornicated with a Police car - or
all three?  The "crack down" quip had me lolling - it's going to be a good year.

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Re: Nude modeling

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> On 30 December 2015 at 23:55 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 23:38, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> >> On 30 December 2015 at 21:36 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 20:59, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> My New Year's resolution for 2016 is to turn down all nude modelling jobs
> >>>> I'm offered.
> >>> 
> >>> Dang. No point me planning that UK trip then.
> >> 
> >> Wilson'll do it.
> > 
> > Only if I can keep my eyebrows on.
> 
> Of course - they give you that Cara Delevingne look.

The cute nose and flawless complexion help.  And the giggling.

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Re: Nude modeling

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"This video is not available.  Sorry about that."

Apart from not believing them, it's probably a country-specific thing.

Unless they've found out where I live.

Again.

> On 30 December 2015 at 16:56 Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> WILSON MICHAEL wrote:
> 
> >> On 30 December 2015 at 14:41 Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQykB6tBMqE
> >> 
> >This video doesn't, er, go.
> 
> That's an audio-only post. (It's common to post audio to YouTube by
> using a still image as the "video" content.)
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Re: Nude modeling

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> On 30 December 2015 at 21:36 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 20:59, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >> 
> >> My New Year's resolution for 2016 is to turn down all nude modelling jobs
> >> I'm offered.
> > 
> > Dang. No point me planning that UK trip then.
> 
> Wilson'll do it.

Only if I can keep my eyebrows on.

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Re: Nude modeling

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> On 31 December 2015 at 01:06 Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 6:37 PM, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >> On 30 December 2015 at 21:36 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 30 Dec 2015, at 20:59, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My New Year's resolution for 2016 is to turn down all nude modelling
> >> >> jobs
> >> >> I'm offered.
> >> >
> >> > Dang. No point me planning that UK trip then.
> >>
> >> Wilson'll do it.
> >
> > Only if I can keep my eyebrows on.
> 
> Certainly. I prefer the natural look over Brazilian eyebrows anyway.
> Or you could compromise and pluck them into landing strips if you
> wish.
> 
> Oh: you don't have a unibrow do you? That's a deal-breaker.

No.  They have their own bank accounts and Facebook pages.  I'm just their
agent.

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Re: Nude modeling

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> On 30 December 2015 at 07:05 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I expect that most of these points are 
> obvious to everyone on this list, 

Yup. We've really been on a roll this last few weeks.

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Re: Nude modeling

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This video doesn't, er, go.

> On 30 December 2015 at 14:41 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQykB6tBMqE
> 
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Re: OT Wet Christmas

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> On 29 December 2015 at 05:13 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Having been through the peer review process it doesn't impress me in the 
> least.  Even those disciplines that have real rigor in the process can 
> be and often are gamed.

Present your evidence for that hypothesis and we'll peer review it.  Unless you
know of a better way?

> 
> On 12/28/2015 11:45 PM, knarf wrote:
> > I am certain that someone will be able to find a web page to refute it
> > (can't one always?) but one group seems to agree with the "extreme weather
> > is happening more often and it's because of climate change":
> >
> > http://www.skepticalscience.com/extreme-weather-global-warming-intermediate.htm
> >
> > They cite peer reviewed papers. That always impresses me.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > frank
> >
> > On December 28, 2015 6:45:57 PM EST, "P.J. Alling"
> >  wrote:
> >> On 12/28/2015 3:35 PM, John wrote:
> >>> On 12/26/2015 4:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>  On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> > And who makes jets?
> >
> > Could it be humans?
> >
> > I rest my case...
>  Ahem!
> 
>  Actually if anything global warming should reduce the polar jet
> >> stream
>  effect as it should reduce the temp gradient
> 
>  
> 
> >>> What "global warming" does is make the normal fluctuations in weather
> >>> more extreme.
> >>>
> >> That's nice to know, as they haven't gotten any more extreme in the
> >> last
> >> half century, but we've become a lot better at finding extreme places,
> >> as there are so much more of us, and communications are so much better.
> 
> 
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OT Harlem Globetrotters

[WILSON MICHAEL]

My disappointment in my parents was never so profound as when I realised they
could have called me Meadowlark Lemon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35191863

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Re: OT: Doré's London

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> On 28 December 2015 at 23:02 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> I know engravings aren't photography, but they were pretty close for their
> time. I've found this via a link from The Guardian, and what with everyone
> feeling Christmassy and Dickensy it feels appropriate. A Victorian Salgado:
> 
> http://www.bl.uk/collection-items/london-illustrations-by-gustave-dor
> 
> Technically, being able to see these on an iPad (i've saved them as pictures)
> is a great experience because the detail is magnificent.

There was sunlight in Victorian London?  Only for the righteous, I presume.

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Re: OT: Doré's London

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> On 29 December 2015 at 07:28 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 06:49, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> >> On 28 December 2015 at 23:02 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I know engravings aren't photography, but they were pretty close for their
> >> time. I've found this via a link from The Guardian, and what with everyone
> >> feeling Christmassy and Dickensy it feels appropriate. A Victorian Salgado:
> >> 
> >> http://www.bl.uk/collection-items/london-illustrations-by-gustave-dor
> >> 
> >> Technically, being able to see these on an iPad (i've saved them as
> >> pictures)
> >> is a great experience because the detail is magnificent.
> > 
> > There was sunlight in Victorian London?  Only for the righteous, I presume.
> 
> It'll be like that again soon thanks to Cameron, Osborne, Boris et al.

As long as gin is a farthing a pint, that won't be a problem.

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Re: OT Wet Christmas

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> On 26 December 2015 at 22:14 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 26 Dec 2015, at 21:53, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> And who makes jets?
> >> 
> >> Could it be humans?
> >> 
> >> I rest my case...
> > 
> > Ahem!
> > 
> > Actually if anything global warming should reduce the polar jet stream
> > effect as it should reduce the temp gradient
> > 
> > 
> 
> I blame these little bastards, slurping their spaghetti in every corner of
> this sublunary realm:
> 
> https://quadriformisratio.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/reversion.jpg

Seraphs - the answer to (and the cause of) all of the world's problems.  As
Homer J might say.

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Re: PESO: Chrismas Onament

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"Onament"?  Your mind is clearly on other things.

> On 27 December 2015 at 03:31 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
> >Detail of an outdoor Christmas ornament at our front door
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18146630=lg
> >Comments are invited.
> 
> I must confess that the thought of a Christmas "onament" made me very
> reluctant to click that link at first...

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Re: OT Wet Christmas

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> On 26 December 2015 at 18:08 Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> The jet stream is a but too far south and stuck at the moment.

A but too far north doesn't bear thinking about.  Although it describes most
politicians perfectly.

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Re: Happy Holidays, PDML!

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> On 26 December 2015 at 01:24 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/24/2015 11:39 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> >> On Dec 24, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Mark Roberts 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Christine Aguila wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All:
> >>>
> >>> An old photo shot with the 2nd digital camera I owned—a Kodak DX7590 in
> >>> 2006.  The next digital camera I purchased was the K10D.
> >>>
> >>> http://caguilaphotography.com/pdmlxmascard2015/content/pdmlxmascard2015_large.html
> >> I hesitated to click on that link at first because I misread it as
> >> "caligula photography".
> >>
> >> But eventually I saw the light and got to enjoy the photo ;-)
> >
> > I can’t remember who, but there were other PDMLers that used to read
> > caligula too!
> I think that was all of us...

You're thinking of chanelling.

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OT Wet Christmas

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Mark! and Lisa did some walking on the pennine way last year and we met in the
bucolic town of Hebden Bridge.  It looks a bit different this week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35181713

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Re: Focusing rail?

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I like these.
http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/macro-accessories/focusing-racks/
Haven't worked up the courage to buy one yet but I like them.

> On 21 December 2015 at 20:52 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> A while back when I was starting to look at panoramas somebody, I think 
> it may have been Mark, pointed me at a good deal on focusing rails. I 
> wasn't in a position to pursue it then.  Could you please remind me of 
> which brand it was that you liked?
> 
> I met someone at lunch who was having difficulty photographing his model 
> train layout and I think that decent focusing rails would really help.
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Re: OT: What color is your memory?

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> On 22 December 2015 at 03:49 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> When I bought mine they sent me green.

Those were the days.

> 
> On 12/21/2015 2:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > So I'm finally upgrading my old computer with a new motherboard. The
> > new motherboard and CPU arrived today but not the memory I'd ordered.
> > A quick phone call to the place I bought it from got that sorted out
> > quickly and said they'd ship the memory right out. Then they called
> > back to ask what *color* I'd like.
> >
> > Yes, RAM is now available in multiple colors. And apparently it's
> > important to some people. (In fact, the sales guy thought it was funny
> > too, but he said some people buy clear computer cases and do care what
> > color their components are. Go figure.)
> >   
> 
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Re: OT keyboard oddness

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> On 20 December 2015 at 04:36 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> ty[e...

ROFL!

Sorry.  I'll get my coat.

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Re: Printers! Printers! Printers!--and other Tidbits!

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> On 20 December 2015 at 19:54 Christine Aguila  wrote:

> ... the high altitude balloting project  

??? Voting for astronauts?

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Re: PESO - Agate Detail

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"Agate my eyes on you..."

> On 19 December 2015 at 17:03 Mark C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Paul, and to everyone else who had a look.
> 
> I considered the title "When Agate Eyes are Smiling" but it seemed too 
> far of a stretch pun-wise.
> 
> On 12/18/2015 7:10 PM, Paul wrote:
> > "Kilroy was here..."
> >
> > -p
> >
> > On 12/18/2015 3:06 PM, Mark C wrote:
> >> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/agate-detail-1
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23429084729/
> >>
> >> Comments welcome.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> ---
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> >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: OT keyboard oddness

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A year's worth of Mark!s in two paragraphs.  Well done.

> On 19 December 2015 at 16:12 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Hisold" is a biblical herb mentioned in the book of Egregius, ch 7 v iii.
> "And thou shalt smear thine pillar with hisold yea though it be not strong and
> lo, it shall arise like unto the cry of the daughters of Abdibab who did look
> upon it in its mighty wrath, verily even unto the heavens".
> 
> "Postagein" is a prescription drug given to people who are so old they've gone
> beyond age and turned into cicadas. It's a soothing balm for sore legs, the
> active ingredient being distilled hisold.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 19 Dec 2015, at 12:14, Jack Davis  wrote:
> > 
> > That means it's OK to complain!
> > 
> > J
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Could be sticky but...
> >> doesn't explain why the spell checker doesn't ask me to correct the
> >> non-words that are created... of course now that
> >> I've pointed it out it stopped doing it :-)
> >> 
> >> ann
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 12/19/2015 12:43 AM, knarf wrote:
> >>> My keyboard at work does that. It's a mechanical problem. Ya gotta hit
> >>> that space bar with great force to get it to work.
> >>> 
> >>> It's just sticky is all...
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> 
> >>> frank
> >>> 
>  On December 18, 2015 11:06:14 AM EST, ann sanfedele 
>  wrote:
>  I really do hit the space bar when I type but lately I see a lot of my
>  posts have occurances of words being up against each other..
>  I do put the email through spell check - so it is odd that the missing
>  spaced words doesn't ask if I want to correct nonsense words
>  that it creates like "hisold" and "postagein".
>  
>  any geeks out there gotany ideas?  I'm using thunderbird
>  
>  ann
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: OT: Mountain-biking in the Beverly Hills

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> On 19 December 2015 at 01:56 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Get down and dirty on this mutha:
> 
> http://www.thehouseofsolidgold.com/24k-gold-extreme-mountain-bike/

Down and dirty would be a chocolate brown starfish on the water bottle.

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Re: OT keyboard oddness

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Well, slap my coremata and call me Parnassius apollo.

> On 19 December 2015 at 19:51 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I hereby declare it to be the Church of Dreaming Butterflies
> 
> > On 19 Dec 2015, at 18:46, Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com> wrote:
> > 
> > WILSON MICHAEL wrote:
> > 
> >> A year's worth of Mark!s in two paragraphs.  Well done.
> > 
> > Some time in the distant future if the PDML archives are discovered I
> > have no doubt there will be a religion founded based on the writings
> > of Bob W.
> > 
> > 
> >>> On 19 December 2015 at 16:12 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> "Hisold" is a biblical herb mentioned in the book of Egregius, ch 7 v iii.
> >>> "And thou shalt smear thine pillar with hisold yea though it be not strong
> >>> and
> >>> lo, it shall arise like unto the cry of the daughters of Abdibab who did
> >>> look
> >>> upon it in its mighty wrath, verily even unto the heavens".
> >>> 
> >>> "Postagein" is a prescription drug given to people who are so old they've
> >>> gone
> >>> beyond age and turned into cicadas. It's a soothing balm for sore legs,
> >>> the
> >>> active ingredient being distilled hisold.
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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OT: Second coming

[WILSON MICHAEL]

It's noodly appendage time, although it might sting a little this go around.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/science/10003854416/the-flying-spaghetti-monster.html

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Re: OT: For My Fellow Americans

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Limberbutt all the way!

http://limberbutt.com/

The time is Meow!

> On 17 December 2015 at 04:31 frank theriault  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm voting for Kevin,
> er, Frank, er, WAIT, I don't get to vote, I'm Canadian!
> 
> Hilarious stuff. Have you hovered the cursor over his eyes? Them's
> politician's eyes!
> 
> cheers,
> 
> frank
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> > All you need to know about presidential politics in 2016:
> > http://www.fu2016.com/
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
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Holidays

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https://youtu.be/H965m0Hkk5M

Happy whatever doesn't offend you.

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Re: Photographers' eye movements study

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You'd need a Cray for the computation if you showed him a picture of a mosque.

> On 08 December 2015 at 22:20 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> You could test your theory on Donald Trump - his eyes swivel a lot.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 8 Dec 2015, at 21:57, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sandy Harris wrote:
> >> http://www.slrlounge.com/canons-obsession-experiment-see-average-person-vs-pro-views-image-details/
> >> 
> > 
> > Very cool.  Brings to mind an experiment that I've wanted to do for a while.
> >  Track the eye movement of people looking at photographs, then convert the
> > signal to the frequency domain (FFT). Then see if there is any correlation
> > between "pleasing compositions" and the presence of harmonics in the eye
> > movement.
> > In other words, would an image that leads the eye around with a particular
> > rhythm of the ocular movements tend to be considered more pleasing by a
> > statistically relevant percentage of people, than an image that didn't lead
> > the around in any "harmonious" pattern?
> > 
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Re: OT Two week plus absences explained

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> On 04 December 2015 at 18:37 David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have been unusually quiet on the list since Nov 18th. On that
> fateful night i had chest pains right after dinner. I knew from a
> previous attach what was going on and wasted no time getting EMS and
> going to our hospital. Long story short, i had a mild heart attack,
> was moved to another hospital for an angiogram that s showed 3 serious
> non stent able blockages and had triple bypass surgery on the 25th. I
> was back home by Nov 29th but my internet had crapped out and had to
> wait for a new modem which i have now.
> I'm feeling good, doing my exercises and walks and eating right.Bus
> driving will not be on the plate until at least March break or beyond
> or at all.
> 
> I know have my internet up, will look at missed PESO's and catch up slowly.

Gan canny, bonny lad.
(Take care, you fine specimen of humanity.)

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Re: PESO 2015 - 181 - GDG

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> On 29 November 2015 at 17:16 Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> the subject plant...
> Cropping

Punster nirvana.

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Re: OT or not OT

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> On 28 November 2015 at 03:30 Joseph McAllister  wrote:

> It's been fun allowing my thoughts mingle with such depth of experience and
> humor.

The pleasure's been all mine, both on and off list.  Peaceful journey to you.

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Re: Have we slipped into an alternative universe?

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On a par with two British riders being on the podium at a MotoGP this year.

And no Canon until number 7.  That's the advertising budget sunk.

> On 25 November 2015 at 14:22 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> WOW
> 2 of the top 3.  Amazing.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> > https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-aps-c-digital-slrs-2015-28422
> >
> > --
> > Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh.
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Re: A weekend up North

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> On 16 November 2015 at 06:41 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16 Nov 2015, at 02:30, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> > Any sightings of The Great Wilsons?
> > 
> 
> I wasn't far enough north for it to be that grim...

I was busy making a new set of bicycle rims from stolen lengths of tramline.
 Built to last, they are.

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Re: A weekend up North

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> On 17 November 2015 at 23:01 Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17/11/15, WILSON MICHAEL, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I was busy making a new set of bicycle rims from stolen lengths of tramline.
> 
> He rips them up with his bare hands and cleans them with his eyebrows.
> 
> You think I'm joking...

I have to use my teeth to get the cobbles off, these days. 8-(

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Re: A weekend up North

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> On 18 November 2015 at 00:57 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17 Nov 2015, at 22:08, WILSON MICHAEL <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 16 November 2015 at 06:41 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 02:30, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> wrote:
> >>> Any sightings of The Great Wilsons?
> >> 
> >> I wasn't far enough north for it to be that grim...
> > 
> > I was busy making a new set of bicycle rims from stolen lengths of tramline.
> > Built to last, they are.
> > 
> 
> Why not just nick a bicycle?

D'oh!

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

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My deepest sympathies.  I hope you are able to concentrate on the good times.

> On 12 November 2015 at 01:35 paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here.
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice.
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
> 
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
> 
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Re: November PUG - On Two Wheels - is now up

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> On 10 November 2015 at 20:53 Bill  wrote:

> There are literally tens of thousands of old vehicles sitting in the 
> middle of farmers fields in southern Saskatchewan.

You could have written that sentence about the Outer Hebrides, too.  In fact, if
you don't have a donor version of the vehicle you drive, I think the local
authority provides one for you.

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Re: had not noticed

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Not the only issue.  Half of the sub-pages, which spiffily (sarcasm alert!)
overlay the original, don't have an exit.

> On 04 November 2015 at 04:29 David Mann  wrote:
> 
> 
> That's interesting, I clicked on the link and was redirected to a spam page.
>  Loaded up Firefox and had a look there, it worked fine... Loaded it again in
> Safari and it worked there as well.
> 
> I suspect there's a dodgy script that's redirecting a certain percentage of
> users.  I've seen this before, makes it more confusing for site owners to
> debug.
> 
> Either way Ricoh need to take a good look at the site...
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
> > On Nov 4, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Collin B  wrote:
> > 
> > http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/products/645-series/
> > 
> > I caught the announcement about the Z price drop but didn't see that the D
> > remains available.

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RE: Phonosnapographs

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> On 01 November 2015 at 08:02 Bob W <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of WILSON
> > MICHAEL
> [...]
> > >
> > > I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you
> > > don't
> > > mind:
> > >
> > > https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs
> > 
> > Once I got into it (Noscript is pretty effective) I was somewhat
> bamboozled.
> > It seems to be a grotty way to display pictures - difficult to create a
> coherent
> > series of images when the viewer can click on anything they fancy from the
> > thumbnails.
> > 
> 
> Isn't that true of all galleries? I mean, if you put up a gallery page the
> viewer can click on any of the thumbnails - that's the point.

Yes but I read your request as calling it a presentation.  Blame MS again but a
presentation, to me, is quite a bit more than a gallery.  My misconception was
compounded by some of the pictures having text on them, leading me to expect
something more than picture display.  I have my reservations about thumbnail
galleries, too.  Some pictures seem to work much better than others as
thumbnails.

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Re: PESO Anita Cocktail (and K-3 mini review)

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> On 01 November 2015 at 20:10 "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/1/2015 2:34 PM, WILSON MICHAEL wrote:
> >> On 01 November 2015 at 16:45 "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/1/2015 10:50 AM, John wrote:
> >>> On 10/31/2015 9:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> knarf wrote:
> >>>>> Fun portrait: Nice detail, great colour, focus on front eye,
> >>>>> technically very good but that cut off lip is a bother.
> >>>> Yeah, remember my mentioning having trouble with it locking focus. She
> >>>> kept walking towards me and by the time it locked focus, she was well
> >>>> within comfortable range for that lens.  Oh well, I still think it's a
> >>>> fun shot.
> >>>>
> >>>> I later remembered another difference between the K-3 and the K-5, the
> >>>> sound of the shutter. I don't know if the K-3 is louder, but the sound
> >>>> is "sharper".
> >>>>
> >>> I wonder what ever happened to that "trap focus" feature some Pentax
> >>> cameras used to have where you could pre-focus & hold down the shutter
> >>> button and the shutter would fire when the subject reached focus?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Trap focus still works, in manual focus mode, on the K-5II, I assume
> >> that it would work with the K-3 as well.
> > Yes; either an af lens with the body in mf mode or a mf lens.  There is a
> > setting (do not release shutter unless in focus) that needs to be set
> > correctly
> > for the process to work or the shutter trips when you press the button.
> >
> I'd forgotten about that, it's on page 4 of the custom functions in the 
> K-5II menu.  Item #25 Catch-in focus must be set to 2, (on).
> 
> Now that you've reminded me I think it's the same on the K20D and the 
> *ist-D series of cameras as well.

Goes back to the Z1-p, at least.

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Re: Phonosnapographs

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> On 01 November 2015 at 14:15 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> A couple of questions:
> 
> Has anyone tried viewing this on a smartphone, which is what it
> appears to be made for?
> 
> Bob, would you care to get the impression of my students on this
> thing? I could have them check it out in class tomorrow. They may be
> closer to the target demographic than the population that makes up the
> PDML and appears to be tending toward geezerdom ;-)

Don't you mean trending?

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RE: Phonosnapographs

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> On 01 November 2015 at 20:22 Bob W  wrote:
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
> [...]
> > >
> > > Anyway, the conclusion seems to be that it's a load of crap, and I'm
> > > not about to argue with that.
> > >
> > > Ta,
> > > B
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > I had forgotten just how much I despise Powerpoint; the triumph of process
> > over content.
> 
> That's a sentence with 3 clauses - far too complex for me to understand.
> Could you break it down into bullet points, please?

Dum dums?

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Re: PESO Anita Cocktail (and K-3 mini review)

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> On 01 November 2015 at 16:45 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/1/2015 10:50 AM, John wrote:
> > On 10/31/2015 9:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> knarf wrote:
> >>> Fun portrait: Nice detail, great colour, focus on front eye,
> >>> technically very good but that cut off lip is a bother.
> >>
> >> Yeah, remember my mentioning having trouble with it locking focus. She
> >> kept walking towards me and by the time it locked focus, she was well
> >> within comfortable range for that lens.  Oh well, I still think it's a
> >> fun shot.
> >>
> >> I later remembered another difference between the K-3 and the K-5, the
> >> sound of the shutter. I don't know if the K-3 is louder, but the sound
> >> is "sharper".
> >>
> >
> > I wonder what ever happened to that "trap focus" feature some Pentax
> > cameras used to have where you could pre-focus & hold down the shutter
> > button and the shutter would fire when the subject reached focus?
> >
> >
> 
> Trap focus still works, in manual focus mode, on the K-5II, I assume 
> that it would work with the K-3 as well.

Yes; either an af lens with the body in mf mode or a mf lens.  There is a
setting (do not release shutter unless in focus) that needs to be set correctly
for the process to work or the shutter trips when you press the button.

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Re: PESO Anita Cocktail (and K-3 mini review)

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> On 01 November 2015 at 21:46 "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/1/2015 3:42 PM, WILSON MICHAEL wrote:
> >> On 01 November 2015 at 20:10 "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/1/2015 2:34 PM, WILSON MICHAEL wrote:
> >>>> On 01 November 2015 at 16:45 "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/1/2015 10:50 AM, John wrote:
> >>>>> On 10/31/2015 9:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>>>>> knarf wrote:
> >>>>>>> Fun portrait: Nice detail, great colour, focus on front eye,
> >>>>>>> technically very good but that cut off lip is a bother.
> >>>>>> Yeah, remember my mentioning having trouble with it locking focus. She
> >>>>>> kept walking towards me and by the time it locked focus, she was well
> >>>>>> within comfortable range for that lens.  Oh well, I still think it's a
> >>>>>> fun shot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I later remembered another difference between the K-3 and the K-5, the
> >>>>>> sound of the shutter. I don't know if the K-3 is louder, but the sound
> >>>>>> is "sharper".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I wonder what ever happened to that "trap focus" feature some Pentax
> >>>>> cameras used to have where you could pre-focus & hold down the shutter
> >>>>> button and the shutter would fire when the subject reached focus?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Trap focus still works, in manual focus mode, on the K-5II, I assume
> >>>> that it would work with the K-3 as well.
> >>> Yes; either an af lens with the body in mf mode or a mf lens.  There is a
> >>> setting (do not release shutter unless in focus) that needs to be set
> >>> correctly
> >>> for the process to work or the shutter trips when you press the button.
> >>>
> >> I'd forgotten about that, it's on page 4 of the custom functions in the
> >> K-5II menu.  Item #25 Catch-in focus must be set to 2, (on).
> >>
> >> Now that you've reminded me I think it's the same on the K20D and the
> >> *ist-D series of cameras as well.
> > Goes back to the Z1-p, at least.
> 
> I was talking about enabling it in a menu, did the PZ-1p have a menu 
> setting?

Can't remember for sure, now that you've frightened my memory gland,  but I
think so.

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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

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> On 31 October 2015 at 17:47 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> I hate Christmas songs. Every year I struggle with the choice between having
> my auditory nerves severed, and going to live in Mecca.

Before you cut or run, wrap your lugs around this.
https://youtu.be/S4uW2PT-190

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Re: Phonosnapographs

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> On 31 October 2015 at 18:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something
> called Sway and something else called Docs.com. 
> 
> Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally
> I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few snaps
> I have lying around on my phone. 
> 
> I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't
> mind:
> 
> https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs

Once I got into it (Noscript is pretty effective) I was somewhat bamboozled.  It
seems to be a grotty way to display pictures - difficult to create a coherent
series of images when the viewer can click on anything they fancy from the
thumbnails.

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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

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> On 30 October 2015 at 18:55 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
> 
> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>  

You buy the double pro version of Photoshop - you know; the one where the colour
slider goes up to 11.

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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

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AKA The Spellchecks.  Started off as The Subliminal Typos but that just confused
their fans.

> On 29 October 2015 at 07:03 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> Marty??
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote:
> > It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding home
> > listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. 
> > 
> > Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty.
> > 
> > Hmmm...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > frsnk
> > -- 
> > 
> > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
> > 
> > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> > 
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OT Cosmonauts

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To Londinium, so sprog can go to the Harry Potter Experience and I can go to the
Cosmonaut exhibition at the Science Museum.  Quite a bit of real space junk
(e.g. Valentina Tereshkova's capsule) and a larger number of full scale
engineering models of the early satellites and lunar exploration prototypes.
 Also plenty of ancillary ephemera and paperwork.  Sadly, no photography
allowed.

Afterwards, a meeting with Tovarich Bobski where, inbetween guzzling, we
discussed possible plans for a PDML meetup next year.  I was thinking of renting
a large, self-catering cottage somewhere on the northumberland coast.  People
could then drop in for a day or more and participate in activities or otherwise.
 There will be at least some cycling and walking, plus a bit of dodging the ice
floes in the north sea.  Numerous opportunities for indulging in our secret
vice.  In the immortal words of Lieutenant Bromhead "Cormorants! Thousands of
them!"  Plus many other types of sea life.  And other things.  Interested
parties apply within.

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Re: OT - Elections and Politics and Guns and Religion

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Deepest sympathy, Paul.

> On 22 October 2015 at 19:54 paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Love you too, Frank. The post wasn’t directed at you. It wasn’t directed at
> anyone, just letting off steam. Started my wife on hospice care today. It’s
> been a rough week, and I’m angry with the world.
> 
> Paul
> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:28 PM, knarf  wrote:
> > 
> > I love you, Paul! I really do.  :-)
> > 
> > I'm not going to respond to the substantive parts of either of your posts. I
> > will say that your first post hardly inflamed me or even got me warmed up. I
> > did smile as I read it...
> > 
> > I'm hardly a "liberal" so whatever conclusions you've reached as to what
> > liberalism is, amount to little more than a passing interest to me. 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > frank
> > 
> > 
> > On October 22, 2015 10:02:00 AM EDT, paul stenquist
> >  wrote:
> >> No need to gush, Stanley. Frank’s comment is a clever turn of words but
> >> meaningless, in that I was not debating anything or offering any kind
> >> of argument. I merely made an observation, based on my experience, as
> >> others have done in this thread. Of course, my words inflamed all the
> >> lefties, but that was expected. No straw men here, other than Frank’s
> >> diversion.
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Stanley Halpin
> >>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:57 PM, frank theriault
> >>  wrote:
>  
>  "And U.S. Liberalism dictates that government should be involved in
>  every aspect of one's life and dictate proper behavior based on a
> >> code
>  of political correctness. U.S. Liberals worship at the church of
>  secular humanism and can't imagine why that might not work for
>  everyone.”
>  
> >>> x
>  There are so many straw men in there, the Wizard of Oz is wondering
>  which one to give the brain to…
>  
> >>> x
> >>> 
> >>> Mark!
> >>> 
>  LOL
>  
>  cheers,
>  
>  frank
>  
>  On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Paul Stenquist
> >>  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Paul via phone
> > 
> >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Eric Weir 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Brian Walters
> >>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Interesting how political terminology can vary between countries.
> >>> 
> >>> Here 'Liberal' means the absolute opposite to the definition of
> >> the term
> >>> in North America. Our 'Liberals' are the conservatives; Labor (no
> >> 'u")
> >>> are the (somewhat) leftish group.
> >> 
> >> What are called liberals everywhere else assumes that a minimum of
> >> government is sufficient to insure liberty.
> > 
> > And U.S. Liberalism dictates that government should be involved in
> >> every aspect of one's life and dictate proper behavior based on a code
> >> of political correctness. U.S. Liberals worship at the church of
> >> secular humanism and can't imagine why that might not work for
> >> everyone.
> >> What are called liberals in the US  assumes that sometimes
> >> something more is required, that simply “leaving people alone” doesn’t
> >> necessarily guarantee their freedom. Totally private healthcare vs. the
> >> assumption that no one—children of poor parents, e.g.—should be denied
> >> healthcare because they can’t pay for it. At least as good a sense of
> >> “liberal” as the other use is an imperfect sense.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Eric Weir
> >> Decatur, GA  USA
> >> eew...@bellsouth.net
> >> 
> >> “[I]t is a sign of great inner insecurity to be hostile to the
> >> unfamiliar.”
> >> 
> >> - Anais Nin
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: Anybody have repair/disassembly instructions for a K-x?

[WILSON MICHAEL]

Didn't see the original for some reason.  K-r partial disassembly.
https://youtu.be/LCOL7GAGS1I


> On 12 October 2015 at 06:00 Paul  wrote:
> 
> 
> Contact cleaner doesn't help with the K-X shutter button?
> 
> -p
> 
> On 10/11/2015 10:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> > My K-5 II just took a very small bump, a few inches to a plastic folding
> > table. However, it now acts as if the OK button is being held on
> > continuously as the focus point selection image on the info screen is
> > blinking on and off, it won't go into menu for more than a second. While
> > I can put it in MF mode with the switch, and adjust with other buttons
> > and dials, I cannot do anything that requires use of info, menu, or the
> > five way switch.
> > With 140,000+ activations on the shutter, I suspect that the camera is
> > now pretty much spare parts.
> >
> > My K-x still mostly works, but the shutter button is rather flakey. I
> > have a strong suspicion that simply disassembling it, cleaning it, and
> > reassembling it would be sufficient to repair it.  This is a process
> > that would be much easier with some sort of manual.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Jetlagged babble

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On 13 May 2010 22:40, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Guys, I begin to think you are a bunch of Eplekjekke Små Nappetasser.

 Jostein

Apple frat small button tassen?



 2010/5/13 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
  I think the right term is forbudt.
 
  On 5/13/2010 3:35 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 
  Miserere wrote:
 
  On 12 May 2010 00:50, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
  Miserere wrote:
 
  Slightly surprised
  that you had a teeny, tiny British accent mixed in with the Norwegian.
  Not at all surprised at how tall you were.
 
  We've been working on that for a long time. Must try harder.
 
 
  You want to make him even taller?
 
  Broader is verboten.

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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

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On 14 May 2010 01:03, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 May 2010 15:02, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 One man's charming is another's charmin.

 For the non-Americans: Charmin is a brand of toilet paper.

I really should apologise for being so harsh.  But I just couldn't
pass up the straight line.  Mea maxima culpa.

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